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<v Speaker 1>It's hard even believed that all those circumstances that was

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<v Speaker 1>evolved and you have three big foots and you have

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<v Speaker 1>three different three people on each side all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from that point and then and then the point where

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and her boyfriend decided to go crawling out

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<v Speaker 1>in the grass and then left move there, visualizing just

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<v Speaker 1>two other figures sitting there. I just can't believe the

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<v Speaker 1>hell that even happened. I didn't even see them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got themselves in that position in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>those two of the big posts that are sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the two other brothers, they suggested that we

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<v Speaker 1>just we should go to the police department, Me and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. We were so soft spoken ourselves anyways, and

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<v Speaker 1>we and like I said, we don't like any confrontational

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<v Speaker 1>type of situation. We don't like going to the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially you can go to the police department and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tell them that we just saw three big foots playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the playground. You know it is this, It ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Gurtis, thanks for joining me on Bigfoot Crossroads. Yes, take

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<v Speaker 2>us back to nineteen eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let me start out with I got an

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<v Speaker 1>identical twin brother, so without him being involved. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>other there's also two other individuals that were that witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>the uh these creatures at the same time that I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's actually three there's three big poots all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So I assume that there there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a family of three, but without them or actually

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<v Speaker 1>the two built. The other two individual were just kids

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<v Speaker 1>that we had met and just and and we have

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<v Speaker 1>since I haven't really kept in touching them anyways. But

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<v Speaker 1>so basically its just me and my brother that can

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<v Speaker 1>verify with each other of what we saw. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>so back in eighty three US we were living in

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<v Speaker 1>in the town of gua Rika, California, and that town

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<v Speaker 1>is it's slow cared about ten miles from the Oregon border.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also since right at the east side, right

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the mountain, but it's right there

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<v Speaker 1>at the the Klamath National Forest. Okay, it's in northern

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<v Speaker 1>California and it's right there along the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>Interstate five. If you know anything about California, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>interstate fight that the five that go that runs all

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<v Speaker 1>way from Mexico all wro up to Canada. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes right, it goes right straight up to the

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<v Speaker 1>center of all the you know California, Oregon and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and the Washington right up right to Canada. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's back in w Rica. Like I said, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains right there, this's the that whole mountain range

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<v Speaker 1>right there just fro way Rica. If you're going west,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just nothing but forested on just thick,

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<v Speaker 1>thick forests. And there's no there's like small communities that

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<v Speaker 1>spread out this whole on this Hordle Mountain Range, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no towns of any kind that I can remember

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<v Speaker 1>that way. That's all just big, thick forests. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>like just the national force itself right there at Klamatha

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<v Speaker 1>National Forest. That's like one point seven million acres right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But that whole mountain range, there's other it connects with

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<v Speaker 1>other uh you know, national forests and everything. You got

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<v Speaker 1>the Marble Mountains, and you also got the you got

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<v Speaker 1>the Trinity National Forest, and you also have the it's

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<v Speaker 1>there was Six Rivers National Forest, which is also that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the that what you call Bluff Creek, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where the where the Gimblin film. The film site was

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<v Speaker 1>made right there, Bluff Creek. If everybody knows what that

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<v Speaker 1>one is the Patterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting them from, Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's and that's not And as as the

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<v Speaker 1>crow flies from way Rica, it's only about seventy miles

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're looking right straight over the hill

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<v Speaker 1>from where where why Rika is at. So we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the same mountain range and basically sisk County. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just lived them doing. There's some research that that

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<v Speaker 1>whole Siske County in way Rika area, it's it's got

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<v Speaker 1>the most signings in California, probably because of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>first of the you know, the whole first and everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then over you know, if you're looking right over

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<v Speaker 1>the coast towards the coast, there's also the redwoods, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty thick over there too. It's pretty nice. But

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<v Speaker 1>now back in ry Rika, in nineteen eighty three, my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and my twin brother and I were we were

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old, and uh first of all, we we

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<v Speaker 1>moved around a lot. We have our dad was a

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<v Speaker 1>cook and the uh so to our whole childhood, we

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<v Speaker 1>were moving constantly. We moved from town to town. We uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking about least once or twice a

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<v Speaker 1>year we moved. We didn't stay one screw at more

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<v Speaker 1>more than a year at at the very most. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we also moved sometimes, you know, two to two

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<v Speaker 1>or three times a year. That's how much. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>much traveling we've done and litting all over California and Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, like I said, in eighty three, we came

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<v Speaker 1>to we came from Oregon to come back into California

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<v Speaker 1>and our aunt was living in wy Arika. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>already knew wherehy Rica was too. We've always been there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd stop in to get gassing, but we'd never you know,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime we're traveling back and forth to Oregon and California,

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<v Speaker 1>would always stop there to get gas every time we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing our travel. But our aunt happened to just

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<v Speaker 1>end up living there as soon as there maybe about

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<v Speaker 1>a year so before we actually arrived. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time we actually got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Wayrika and stay there. But our parents dropped us, me

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<v Speaker 1>and my brother and along with our two member siblings

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<v Speaker 1>dropped us off with our aunts. So my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>dad and travel around California to try to find a

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<v Speaker 1>place to live, even though they did come back to

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<v Speaker 1>Wyrika anyways a couple months later, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>living in Wyreka.

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<v Speaker 2>But at this time you were just staying with your aunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where's still with my aunt now they ain't. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of the town of Wareka is basically right there along

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<v Speaker 1>the along the freeway of the I five, where all

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<v Speaker 1>the stores and restaurants and everything else, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>the population of the whole town is like thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people at the time. And then where my aunt

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<v Speaker 1>was living was in It was in an apartment complex

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<v Speaker 1>and that was about that was about two rocks west

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the main part of town there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a small residential neighborhood. But the apartment complexes

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<v Speaker 1>is right next door to a grade school and the

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<v Speaker 1>grade school is a there was a one grade one,

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<v Speaker 1>two five, So it's got mostly just small kids there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and of course this.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the summertime anyways. And I only mentioned the school

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<v Speaker 1>because this is actually is the place where we actually

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<v Speaker 1>had our encounter. So that's why I got to described

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<v Speaker 1>what the school and everything around where we were at

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. Now where the apartment complex and the screw

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<v Speaker 1>in between each other. There's no there's no fence at all.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no fence that separates the two properties. And but

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<v Speaker 1>the front of our of the apartment suite was facing

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction where the schools at, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>north side of the schools on the north side of

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment complex. So for us to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>school yard, we just have to go around the backside

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<v Speaker 1>or the side of the apartment complex to go just

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<v Speaker 1>walk right through the field to get into the to

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<v Speaker 1>the school. And on the west, on the whole western

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<v Speaker 1>side of that of the school property was a big

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<v Speaker 1>eight foot eight to ten for chaining fence that went

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up and down north and south in

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<v Speaker 1>that whole perimeter, and that's where the soccer slash baseball

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<v Speaker 1>field was located. Now, then on the very north on

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<v Speaker 1>that north corner basically of the of the school grounds,

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<v Speaker 1>the north west corners where the baseball diamonds at. And

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<v Speaker 1>then right on connected to the eight point fence was

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<v Speaker 1>a man gate, so you can walk through that. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of that fence, we were looking

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<v Speaker 1>towards the mountains. Now your head looking towards the West.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a big empty, a big piece of property

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<v Speaker 1>that's owned by the city and it's just it's undeveloped

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<v Speaker 1>and that covered you know, quite a few acres. But

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<v Speaker 1>it went from a screw There was about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>threw up one hundred yards just looking but just dry

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<v Speaker 1>grass and a lot of weeds, you know, tall weeds

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<v Speaker 1>like three or through three foot weeds, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>the whole perimeters this had a whole bunch of rowing

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<v Speaker 1>uh dirt. Now it's basically it's very unstable area. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's also got a lot of strawberry and everything three

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<v Speaker 1>thick show in some spots.

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<v Speaker 2>So the city wasn't keeping it up or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not that particular part of the property. There's a yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, but they did recently. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there about five years ago myself, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that that that whole community is it's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's all housing, it's all community. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna ask you if if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's changed a lot since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I tried to go back and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look at the area that I I seem

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<v Speaker 1>my big putting everything and that's totally different. So anyways, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so then there be all on that field, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>about four four hundred yards. It's just a there was

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<v Speaker 1>a just a little residential neighborhood one street up there

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<v Speaker 1>that just that's right next to the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the sleep of the steep slope that goes up

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<v Speaker 1>to the towards the mountains into the mountains. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's so basically from the apartments to the mountains is

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<v Speaker 1>probably a couple of blocks away from us as all

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but it's pretty easy travel come to there. See.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we first got to the town, we met a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of brothers, me and my me and my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know anybody. We just go down to the

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<v Speaker 1>park in town there and and we ended up meeting

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of brothers there and uh there's there were

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<v Speaker 1>the same age as we were, so they were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones we were hanging out with and we only knew

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<v Speaker 1>them for a couple of days. But when when this

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<v Speaker 1>incident happened. We also have my younger sister who ended

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<v Speaker 1>up having a like a little thing with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the kid that was about two years older

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<v Speaker 1>than me and my brother, my sister was only thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and this this guy, this kid was like seventeen. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of a short term I had a

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<v Speaker 1>short term thing going on. But they're both also with

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<v Speaker 1>us in this in this particular encounter. Now we moved

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<v Speaker 1>forward to the day, the day that this happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the middle of It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of summer, and so it was very hot. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually we had like a drought going on at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and uh, the tempters definitely was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I remember days that were about one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 1>degrees and uh, you know, so anywhere from one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred to one hundred tenets. So it was very

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<v Speaker 1>warm out and even were heay, we tried, we stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in most of the time because it's still hot out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I mean, now these uh, the two

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<v Speaker 1>brothers came to our aarper complex where we were where

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<v Speaker 1>we were staying with my aunt. We already ate dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>was already getting dumb, it was already getting dark. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>the sun was already going over and we were already

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<v Speaker 1>expecting we're already expecting the two brothers to show up. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>So they showed up after dinner and already getting dark out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very bright with stars and everything, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bright in that aspect. And then so we

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<v Speaker 1>were outside talking with the brothers and everything, and then

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<v Speaker 1>so one of the brothers decided that to they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play a game. They wanted to play a game

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<v Speaker 1>of what we call duns, but it's mostly like a

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<v Speaker 1>hide and go seek. We had a team, we had

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<v Speaker 1>not usually that even at this particular time in our life,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't we like playing those kind of games, but

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to do it because the two brothers just

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<v Speaker 1>were pretty consistent on wanting to do something. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we decided to do. So now we had my

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, now me and my twin brother

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the same team together, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>uh my brother had the other the other two brothers

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<v Speaker 1>on his team. So so now we got three on

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<v Speaker 1>our team. So basically, uh, I won a coin toss

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<v Speaker 1>to where we got to go hide first. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was up to my brother's team to be searching for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And and when I say guns, oh, we just had

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<v Speaker 1>fake you know, we just use our fingers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot, you know, we're got that's basically where that's

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<v Speaker 1>specially where since we're gonna be just a back like

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna shoot each other. But we didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really have a really good plan. We just

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<v Speaker 1>it was more like a hide and go seek type

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<v Speaker 1>of game, you know. So it's kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different than what what I thought we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But anyway, so now my brother had to

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<v Speaker 1>count down. My brother's team had to count down from

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred, so that way that would give us my

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<v Speaker 1>team enough time to you know, get some distance away.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only the old kind of rules of that

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<v Speaker 1>came up with is that we wanted that we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go and we had to stay within the screw property

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<v Speaker 1>or over on the other side of that fence with

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<v Speaker 1>where that where the city properties at uh on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the screw, So that was the only

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<v Speaker 1>real rules we have. We didn't have anything else set up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're just we just had the other team

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be looking for us. So now my brother's team

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<v Speaker 1>started to counting down and then we just went at

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<v Speaker 1>my team, We just went around the other outside where

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<v Speaker 1>the screw was at, and just ran around the other

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh over to the other side, and we ran

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<v Speaker 1>all up to where the northwest corner of the screw was,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where the baseball diamond was at. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little there was a little four foot fencerack there

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<v Speaker 1>that once along got north the perimeter of the screw property,

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<v Speaker 1>but always had to jump over that real quick. And

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<v Speaker 1>so my team just went and laid down right behind

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball diamond. And like I said, there's the man

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<v Speaker 1>gate right behind us also right there on on that

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<v Speaker 1>chain League fence. So now at this point I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where my brother's team was at. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hiding. And the light said, and the stoke it

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<v Speaker 1>was bright enough. The lights were from the stars was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bright gave them. So we can actually see the

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<v Speaker 1>field pretty eastly, you know, but any anything that's walking around,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just see like a shadowy figures because it

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<v Speaker 1>was it wasn't that line out. But we can also

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<v Speaker 1>see from the baseball dim and we could see the

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<v Speaker 1>apartment complex that had lights from there, and behind the

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<v Speaker 1>school where the kids school on the playgrounds that had

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<v Speaker 1>had some lighting there. And we also see we can

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<v Speaker 1>also see the street lights on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>both the apartments and the and the school there. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of light. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the good enough that we could see details or everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But now my brother's team is actually located right basically

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<v Speaker 1>on the school grounds, but right next to the next

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<v Speaker 1>to the apartment complex, whis basically diagonal from where we

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<v Speaker 1>were at. We're you know, estimating what maybe one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty feet maybe or something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just as an estimate. So now what these when these

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<v Speaker 1>creatures showed up, it was it took a while because

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<v Speaker 1>we were sitting there. My team was laying down behind

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<v Speaker 1>that baseball battling for I would say at least a

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<v Speaker 1>four or five minutes, you know, because we were waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the other team because they're supposed to be looking

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<v Speaker 1>for us. And I'm not sure why my brother decided

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<v Speaker 1>to just to hold off. They were just kicking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But they're also laid down in the grass

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So basically, like I said, about five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>goes by. But now my brother's team, they were the

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<v Speaker 1>first rooms that got to see these bigfoots come into

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures because those bigfoots were right through on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the school, right right in between the school

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<v Speaker 1>and that complex, the armor complex. There's no lighting right

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<v Speaker 1>there in that to their section because it's right on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the school, so it's kind of dark

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<v Speaker 1>right there. Yeah, but there's a but there's a street

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<v Speaker 1>right there, there's a little there's like an access for

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<v Speaker 1>right next for the for the school workers right next

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<v Speaker 1>to the school, especially in between the school and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the apartment complex. But that's what the bigfoots were

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<v Speaker 1>came walking out of. They came walking and and they

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<v Speaker 1>started and they were heading towards that, towards the field

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<v Speaker 1>and towards that changing fence. And as they were walking,

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<v Speaker 1>they were they were walking about ten or fifteen feet

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<v Speaker 1>apart apart from each other, and they're, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's three of them. So now they're walking in front

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<v Speaker 1>of my brother. They're looking at my brother and his

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<v Speaker 1>team are looking at these figures walking in front of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of my brother or his team, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say nothing. They just sat there and watched

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<v Speaker 1>these creutures just walking front of them. They're probably about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty feet in front of U with my brother and

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<v Speaker 1>we're laying down. They let them walk by, and they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went to a little bit of a shock

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and they couldn't they really couldn't believe what

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking at. But they didn't say anything because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to. They didn't want to draw attention

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<v Speaker 1>to it, watching these creatures walk in front of them

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It wasn't until the big puts got all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down and got within a you know, ten

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<v Speaker 1>or fifteen feet from the the fence when they actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked at each other and started they definitely they started

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<v Speaker 1>whispering each other. The one of the brothers said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's bigfoot, you know, And that's it. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>it was, And they all knew, they all agreed for

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<v Speaker 1>sure that that's exactly what they're looking at. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a big It was big. There's three of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and their estimated size of these were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, some were over They're definitely over six

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<v Speaker 1>feet because the two brothers were like six feet tall themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they they they permiss and that they these big

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<v Speaker 1>foots were even taller than they or so, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding there. But we also came to a conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>later on that there were probably the juveniles bigfoot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after after analyzing all the stuff that we were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about after after the fact. But meanwhile, when they did,

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<v Speaker 1>when my brother's team watched these bigfoots up, yet two

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<v Speaker 1>of the acts were that fence. Like I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>fence is at least eight feet I for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like almost ten feet tall. But because I've

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<v Speaker 1>climbed that fence before myself, and I'm I was five

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<v Speaker 1>seven myself, it just seems like eight foot would need

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal. But I remember having to

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<v Speaker 1>crawl up that defence before. It seems like it's about

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet tall, but it's it's it's anywhere from eight

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<v Speaker 1>to ten. So that's that's a lot better to just

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<v Speaker 1>to think that that way, I guess. So basically, when

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<v Speaker 1>these bigfoots got to the fence, the biggest went out

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<v Speaker 1>of the out of the through biofoots that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>He all he did he or she, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what's what it would. But all it did

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<v Speaker 1>is is grab the top. It just grabbed hold of

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the fence and just yanked it soap

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<v Speaker 1>up and just threw it soap on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the just on the other side to that to

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<v Speaker 1>the property of the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other two, the other two bigots, they decided

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<v Speaker 1>they just walked right back down the fence line back

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<v Speaker 1>towards the apartment complex, uh opery line there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the fence just stops right there at the property line anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>and all you have to, oh, you have to just

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<v Speaker 1>walk right around the fence and then you back then

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<v Speaker 1>you're in that undeveloped piece of property there. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>basically that's basically what my brother had seen. Now in

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<v Speaker 1>my situation, I will go back to where I was at.

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<v Speaker 1>I was we were behind here. I actually remember I

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<v Speaker 1>started to fall asleep of it. I just I dozed

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<v Speaker 1>off anyways, But when those big foots came into the

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<v Speaker 1>started across some where my brother was at, my sister

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<v Speaker 1>nudged me, uh and kind of woke me up and

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<v Speaker 1>the other the boyfriend, he was right there too. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually said, hey, there's the other team. You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. So basically I wiped my eyes off and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and definitely, I guess we definitely see the

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<v Speaker 1>silhouettes walking across. The few of them. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we were probably at least at least one hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>away from him, So we took we didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to see any details or anything out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point in time, we're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, there's my brother's team, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you got three days that's walking. But

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<v Speaker 1>in my own I'm not thinking Bigfoot Denson's not on

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<v Speaker 1>my rank on whatsoever. So you know, why would I

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking about it Bigley, you know. And so like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and the detail wasn't there's not enough details

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<v Speaker 1>we need even consider that fact. So we watched the

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<v Speaker 1>rock and walking across the into the baseball field. Basiclyek

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<v Speaker 1>come right straight towards the fence, but not really paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like staring at him or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, but we were definitely I could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>visualize them walking across and so now my uh my

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<v Speaker 1>sister's boyfriend decided he wanted to get up and just

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<v Speaker 1>start blasting away, you know, with our gun fingers, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, no, no, I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>that because we're too far away. So I suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>we just go ahead and just just get ourselves on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the fence, even not not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>if they're if that's what they were planing rob doing anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know if those figures are gonna jump over

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<v Speaker 1>the fst but at least we would be on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the fence, and if those those figures

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<v Speaker 1>came walking down towards that they stayed on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the screw grounds, we would still be right

420
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to on the other side of the fence and we'd

421
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.599
<v Speaker 1>start blasting away if they came up to us. But

422
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that they are on the other side anyways,

423
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.079
<v Speaker 1>which we didn't know. And like I said, my brother

424
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>told me that that these bigfoot that one bigfoot jump

425
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>over the tainleing fence. Now we were crawling through that fence.

426
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.559
<v Speaker 1>That proves the same time the throws that those bigfoots

427
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>got to the fence anyways, and I'm holding onto the fence,

428
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and I don't hear nothing. I don't hear the fence rattle,

429
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 1>because normally if you're on a if you're going to

430
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>crawl on a tainleing fence, you're gonna hear something. You're

431
00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear a rattle. You got thurible and all that stuff.

432
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>So so I guarantee that whatever, if that's what they did,

433
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.279
<v Speaker 1>they that one jumped over the fence. I just did

434
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it in one fast loop, just went up there and

435
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I just grabbed a hold and just just flung itself

436
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.839
<v Speaker 1>over the other side without making a noise, you know.

437
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And then they probably had that type of the probably

438
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that agile anyways, where they can do that kind of stuff.

439
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.839
<v Speaker 1>They probably used to doing that. So, like I said,

440
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>we crawled, you know, we crawled through the other side,

441
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 1>through the through that manngate. We just crawled through there.

442
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:01.319
<v Speaker 1>And then we started heading down off along that ends

443
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>line basically towards the center of the of the field there,

444
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>but on the over on the property side, the property

445
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of the city, and uh, and we kind of do

446
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it kind of slops. We didn't want to make any noise.

447
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:16.839
<v Speaker 1>We didn't, you know, because eventually they're going to either

448
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>come to us and we're gonna have an element of

449
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.559
<v Speaker 1>surprise no matter what. But we didn't want we didn't

450
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>really want to draw too much attention to it at

451
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that particular time.

452
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Um hm.

453
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So we get down there. Finally we get down They

454
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 1>took a few minutes or whatever, but we get to

455
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>about center of the field, of the of the fence line,

456
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.839
<v Speaker 1>and that's where we decided to stay. We decided to

457
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 1>sit right there because that's about the about the same

458
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 1>place where we see these big foots come up to

459
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the fence or in this in my case, I thought

460
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it was the other team. So we just put our

461
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>backs against the fence and just started looking towards the mountains,

462
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, in that direction, basically the same direction going

463
00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 1>towards that that the residential neighbor neighborhood they said, about

464
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>four hundred yards away, and right down below us, we're

465
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 1>up on a little bit the fence line was a

466
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit of the slope, so it was down about

467
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe two or three feet before the you're on that

468
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.519
<v Speaker 1>other piece of property, and there's a lot of ruts

469
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on the ground and stuff. There's very uneeded property. Then

470
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>right to the just a little bit to our them

471
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to the luck to us, there's a pretty big thick

472
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>piece of brush, you know, so something could hide behind there,

473
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of course, but that was one of the areas that

474
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we didn't want to go past, and we just wanted

475
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to kind of because because we can still see down

476
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the fence line. The fence line is still pretty clear.

477
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 1>We could still crawl down that way if we wanted,

478
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 1>but we had that brush right there, so that was

479
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of helping us with a little bit of shelter

480
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. Now we sat there now at this point,

481
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 1>my sister and embokmen and they were kind of getting

482
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>boarded the game, and they are already kind of there

483
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>were certain some signs that they were they're more into

484
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>each other basically, right, so they're kind of giggling up,

485
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was kind of get a little bit agitated

486
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point in time, and I kept telling to

487
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be quiet because I didn't want them to I want

488
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>our team to get discovered, you know. So we were

489
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 1>sitting there for a couple of minutes, but then finally

490
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>my sister and then the boyfriend decided they just they

491
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go crawling out with the grass. And they,

492
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was more than happy. I just said, okay,

493
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and go, you know, just getting getting

494
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a bat of getting away from me was what I

495
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted them to do, because they're just giggling stuff anyways,

496
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>not really loud, but just giggling enough where it's gonna

497
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>give us away, you know. So when they started crawling

498
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>through the grass, and it's like it was about three

499
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>foot leads and grass and anything, I wasn't really paying

500
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>attention to my sister and the boyfriend. I didn't I

501
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't know exactly which way they were headed or anything.

502
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>They just oh, I noticed that I lost sight of

503
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 1>them once they crawled into the grass. And they are

504
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 1>still giggling stuff. So it's just enough cracking hear them

505
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, you know, still a little noise, and I

506
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>really wanted them to be that. I kept trying to

507
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 1>tell him be quiet a little bit, you know, moved

508
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 1>like a kind of a louder whisper, I guess. Anyway,

509
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So I just sat there and this whole time all

510
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I was doing is just just scoping, just scanning my

511
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>head back and forth all the way from looking down

512
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the fence line and then going all the way and

513
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and just scanning all the way back down from where

514
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>we came from and scanning all that property. Anyways, So

515
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>after a few minutes after it was probably about two

516
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>minutes later after my sister and now they're still in

517
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 1>the grass, suwheer. But as I was coming around and

518
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>from the looking north basically and then coming around to

519
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>look back down the fence line again, now I see

520
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 1>two figures the twenty feet away from me that were

521
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that were squattered on one of those dirt and those

522
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>grassy dirt mounds that I was telling about. It's only

523
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe a flot or too high, you know, But at

524
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 1>this point, I I career, I just in my mind,

525
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was my sister. It was my

526
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>sister and her boyfriend. So I could see the silhouettes,

527
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking you know, just looking straight at me.

528
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

529
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. At this point there there wasn't a lot of light,

530
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>but I could see there's lights coming from the neighborhood,

531
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like I said, quite a few yards away, and there's

532
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 1>and of course the starlights and everything. So I could

533
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely see that there's two figures there. Plus they were

534
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>right next like I. So it was twenty few array

535
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>but they were right next to that brush, on the

536
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 1>thick brush I was telling you about, So maybe that

537
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 1>was a place where they just came out of. But

538
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see them arrive at all. So that's why

539
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it all came to It wasn't even surprised at that

540
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>time because I could it was as far as I

541
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 1>was concerned, that was my sister and her boyfriend. Even

542
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>though later I could definitely look at my I can

543
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>look back and I can remember that these these true

544
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>uh uh figures were just sitting there, just staring straight

545
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>at me. Didn't make any move, wasn't moving at all,

546
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 1>even though like I I just kept scanning back and

547
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 1>thirta anyways, and every once in a while, about every

548
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 1>couple fifteen twenty seconds out, I'd be looking at those

549
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>two and I raised my hand up and trying to

550
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.039
<v Speaker 1>tell those two figures that stop, you know, the stop

551
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 1>giggling and stuff, you know, stop making noise. So basically

552
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I was having an interaction with these two figures, even

553
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 1>though it wasn't a communication part of it. But they

554
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>recognized me, even though I didn't know exactly what I

555
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was looking at at the time, but it was still

556
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>considered a an interaction. I guess it's it because they

557
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 1>knew where I was. My sister and them, they were

558
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 1>definitely crawled up. They were definitely close enough so that

559
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 1>when they were when my sister and her Bertha were

560
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>still giggling and stuff, it was still a close note

561
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>rocket that the sound was just to me, it was, uh,

562
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was was close enough to those two figures that that's

563
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 1>that I still thought that that's what they were. That

564
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was my sister Eric worker. So they weren't. They were

565
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 1>only a matter of whatever feet feet, you know, so

566
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>many feet away. They're They're definitely even closer than when

567
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I was. I mean I was twenty feet.

568
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Away, So they were between you and two figures. But

569
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>you didn't realize that.

570
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or the more I don't care. Yeah, my sister

571
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and they were actually more to the a little bit

572
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 1>more to the right where I'm looking straight and those

573
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.559
<v Speaker 1>two figures were a little bit just right off at

574
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 1>an angle, just slightly to the left of me and

575
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 1>my sister and them because they were sitting on the

576
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>right of me anyways, and they just went straight out

577
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and as far as I was concerned, they

578
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 1>were just went straight straight out, you know, because I

579
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 1>wasn't paying attention to exactly which stretch and they started

580
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the head but that was my estimated figures that they

581
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>just went straight out and they were probably within by

582
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the time they got well out into the thick rushing

583
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 1>or the thick weeds, and that they they were probably

584
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 1>within ten feet on those two figures themselves. Wow, look

585
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.799
<v Speaker 1>out them even knowing it, because they didn't know it,

586
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 1>because they all they could do all my surial just

587
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 1>hear me just trying to whisper back to them to

588
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.559
<v Speaker 1>be quiet, you know, even though it wasn't doing anything good.

589
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, now it goes on for another about another

590
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 1>two or three minutes. I'm still just just just scanning

591
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 1>my head around back and forth. And then all of

592
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, and I'm doing my turn back up looking

593
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>starting to look towards the south on that long fense line,

594
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and now I see it. I see something come running

595
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>out behind the bush from that thick brush that was

596
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and they it man, Actually it was about another five

597
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 1>feet behind the other two that were sitting on that now,

598
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 1>and that thing, I mean, it was coming pretty fast.

599
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>That thing was so fast as he start. I mean

600
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I look back at it I know it was pretty fast,

601
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>but at the time it was happening, it was it

602
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>was it was everything was happening so fast. But it's

603
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>not that I got scared when came because I wasn't.

604
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I wasn't even looking for bait for anything,

605
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't scared of anything. At this time. I

606
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was my brother's team. I thought it

607
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 1>was one person from the other team, and I couldn't

608
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>which what I thought it was all these news the

609
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>other team, still thinking that those other two that were

610
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the mound was my sister and workman. But

611
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 1>either ways, those two figures didn't even didn't even budge anyways.

612
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Even that one came running around in the behind the

613
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>other two, those two figures just stayed right exactly where

614
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>they were now. So that made that that creature that

615
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 1>they went around those other two, that was at least

616
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty five to thirty feet from where I was at.

617
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And uh, like I said, I everything happened so fast,

618
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'm thinking, Okay, it's the other team, and even

619
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>before I can before I can even get on my feet,

620
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 1>that creature was already went completely around those two and

621
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>was already almost was stopped by the time I got

622
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>on my feet to start yelling and start saying that

623
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 1>it was the other team. About the same time I

624
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>got up and started yelling the other team that that

625
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 1>big pot. That's when you know the bit was stopped,

626
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking ten feet from me, because I already

627
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>went past those other two. And that was that was

628
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 1>actually just stopped with the ten maybe twelve at the most,

629
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>but it stopped right there. And then I was just

630
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. It just stood there and looked at me,

631
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>and it, uh, it tilted his head from where I

632
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 1>was at it till to the left side, but it

633
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>was it was it was on its right side, tilt

634
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>his head like it was like it was trying that

635
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>communicate or probably it was. It was almost like it

636
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>was curious of me. There's nothing regressive about about what

637
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 1>it but about what he was doing or it was doing.

638
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But all the all I know is it just it

639
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>tilts his head to one side, and it was it

640
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 1>was slightly bent in the knees, and and it was

641
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of and the and the head like the back

642
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was arcs a little bit facing forward as well. But

643
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing I could definitely see out of the whole

644
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>this whole creature was the I can see the hair

645
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>going all the way from the head and it was

646
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>going right all the way down the shoulders, and I

647
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>can see part of the arms, and the arms were

648
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 1>going down into the shadows where I couldn't see the

649
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>full length of the arms. I could see the individual

650
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 1>hairs all coming all the way down to around its

651
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and uh, and it was either gonna be it

652
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>was definitely short haired type of things. I see the

653
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 1>individual hairs, but it wasn't like long hair. I didn't

654
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>see any long hairs coming from the like the arms

655
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything. But I could see the actual individual hairs

656
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>on the shoulders. And the one thing I did notice

657
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely it was quite a bit wider than me,

658
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>so I knew it was quite a bit bigger, but

659
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>still at this time and this and this was going

660
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>on this for about three seconds. When I decided to

661
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>start blasting away, I just started, Uh. I started just

662
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>going bang bang bang bang bang. After after I yelled out,

663
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>there was the other team and I just yelled out

664
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the top of my lump. So basically I was I

665
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even at this time, I was just it was

666
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>just the other team to me, just that one, just

667
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the one.

668
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Different dn't registered.

669
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just hadn't rested my mind. Just even though I

670
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>could definitely see there's something was definitely wrong, I was

671
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>still set on just my my drum was going because

672
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to I just wanted to shoot the other team.

673
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So now I'm just banging my fingers away, banging away.

674
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And then now at that point, the other two that

675
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>were sitting on the on that dirt mound, they stood up,

676
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and then I knew, I knew that there's something wrong.

677
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I was okay, something was definitely not right yet because

678
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they anyways, but they all those two got up, and

679
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 1>then you all just turned around, all three of them.

680
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 1>They just started leaping away from me, back going a

681
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>heading towards the hills and towards that little residential neighborhood

682
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>ways away, and I can see they're just leaping. They

683
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 1>were leaping through the room, through the tall grass. So

684
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>at this time, now now I go into kind of

685
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a shock because the only thing that was coming out

686
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>of my mouth at that point, I just started yelling

687
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>out deer. I just started yelling deer for whatever, you know,

688
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>just because I can only think of the reason I

689
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was doing because of the way they're leaping, leaking through

690
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the grass, knowing that these were definitely not deer because

691
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they are on two legs for sure, just there. They

692
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>are definitely human form. And but at the same time,

693
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I definitely didn't I didn't. I didn't think of them

694
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 1>as being human either, you know, so it was definitely

695
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna be between a human and whatever whatever it was.

696
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>At this time in my mind, I just I just

697
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 1>couldn't register what was going on. I was confused, and

698
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just yelling deer now. I was yelling that so

699
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>loud too. It's like my brother can hear me from

700
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the other from way back in the apartment complex, because

701
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>like I said, my brother. And then they got scared anyways,

702
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and they retreated back into the apartment complex. But when

703
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>they heard me rowing, I think they're pretty they're afraid

704
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of what was happening to me. They they probably were

705
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>trade Later on, of course, they said they were afraid

706
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that maybe that those bigfoots were attacking me or whatever.

707
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>So they came running across the field from the apartment complex,

708
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, well, yeah, let's go, let's keep moving. Before

709
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>brows at anyway, So I can still see these figures there,

710
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 1>like you said, they're they're already they're leaping away from me.

711
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And then of course I stopped shooting eventually then, but

712
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 1>I can still see them. They'll be looking at him.

713
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>They actually slowed down, they just came become more like

714
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 1>a like a faster walk. But they're just with you know,

715
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 1>with wide strides, I guess it'd say. And I can

716
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>see them looking back at me. They're they just turned

717
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>their upper torsos. They're just they're just looked back at me,

718
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, these big figures. And uh so I was

719
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 1>still confused. I was just like I could do what

720
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at. I didn't want to believe in

721
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 1>bit because I just I just didn't. I just didn't

722
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>want to think of them because I didn't I didn't

723
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 1>know anything about me but except stories and stuff. But meanwhile,

724
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>my sister and her boyfriend finally were standing next to me,

725
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 1>which I didn't even notice until later, and they can

726
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>still they can see these stubish as well, but they

727
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 1>are still three far away. They were probably about fifty

728
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>or sixty yards away, no matter what, maybe you know,

729
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pet or whatever. But but we could see them.

730
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>We were watching him, and uh so my sister and

731
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend. They definitely could not identify them as being

732
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot at all because as far as as far as

733
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>what we can look at at where we were standing,

734
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 1>they were just upright bipedal whatever pedal, uh pussons or whatever.

735
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, so meanwhile, I can hear my brother come

736
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 1>running across the field walk. I'm right there. I'm at

737
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the fence, and I'm still confused. I'm still I'm still

738
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 1>in shock. I guess you'd see. So I turn around,

739
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm holding on to the fence, and I can see

740
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>my brother's team running up to the fence line. And

741
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear him yelling something, but they didn't nothing.

742
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hear anything until he got to me. I

743
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was probably with about ten feet from them getting to

744
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the fence, and they're running pretty fast. But all I

745
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>can hear is my brother just just yell out that

746
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that they staw a big and once they said that,

747
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 1>that's when everything totally changed in my whole life up

748
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to this point. And I mean, it's hardly even explained

749
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>about how how scared a person can be. I mean

750
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>because I've been scared. I've seen I've had baron counters

751
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>myself when my in my old in my adulthood, I've

752
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>had five different uh cross encounter basically with bears, black

753
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>bears in California. So I do a lot of hiking.

754
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>But but after this incident, I've never felt anything as

755
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 1>scared as I've ever been before that incident and more

756
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>after us It's one of those experiences I've never It's

757
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>one thing I've never ever watered fear that pain, same

758
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 1>fear ever ever in my life, you know. But I

759
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 1>was so scared, I went do a deep shock and

760
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>uh almost probably my heart was getting ready to just

761
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>just pounce out of my chest. Just the fact that

762
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>my brother said that they saw a big the name

763
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>be put right there. That was it. It's just I

764
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>lost almost everything and somehow I ended up on My

765
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>brother told me that that I just almost pretty much

766
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just jumped over the fence. I mean as fast as

767
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I could. I just grabbed a hold, I just used

768
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>my hands just and pretty much just a couple of

769
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 1>strides up the thing and grabbed and just jump and

770
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>just jump through real the side. And then and I left,

771
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I left my sister uh and her boyfriend right there,

772
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know how how they got over,

773
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>but you on your only memory I had after that,

774
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>uh once he said, big put case, I weren't Tony blank.

775
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know what I was doing. All I

776
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>know is that I see I remember being about halfway

777
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>down the field of the of the of the soccer field,

778
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and I think I got to the other side and

779
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I just, uh, I just fell to my knees. Finally,

780
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I fell on my knees because I can see my

781
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>hands and everything, and I remember rubbing my rubbing my eyes.

782
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I had tears just coming out of my eyes like

783
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>crazy because I was That's how scared I was. I was.

784
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>It was the worst thing. I was the worst thing

785
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I ever had. But when you look back, I know

786
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 1>for a fact that they weren't. There's nothing aggressive about

787
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it that these creatures. It's just that I had this

788
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>thought of a big foot being just a folklore monster

789
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You know. It was just something that I

790
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>so basically, my my fear only came out of what

791
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>what I thought happened, you know, not what what what

792
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen later. I mean, I was just told

793
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to fear what I what I thought could have could

794
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>have actually really happened, that they really wanted to do something, Jimmy,

795
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, So like I said, I was it

796
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was just it was the most scared thing that the

797
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>ever had my whole life. And it's and I and

798
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I never had anything that scary. Matter of fact, every

799
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>time I've had any kind of bulb any encountered any

800
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of Like I said, the bears are the only

801
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that I've ever came close to that

802
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 1>could have resembled any kind of fear. But with with

803
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the blackbirds in California after that incident, everything it just

804
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>pales compared to compared to that feenie I had. So

805
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to me, looking at a bear, it was like was

806
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like nothing to me. You know, It's just I just

807
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>felt I felt at ease because at least I know

808
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 1>what a bear is, you know.

809
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So did you lose that feeling of fear as

810
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you got older or did it stay with.

811
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 1>You as far as that whole situation. I actually I've

812
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 1>actually come to the terms of goal that that whole situation,

813
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that fear lasted for for at least weeks. Upon that

814
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even want to go outside at night at

815
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>all for quite a while. But when time goes by,

816
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple months goes by. We end up

817
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>living in Wayrika anyways, and we went to high school there,

818
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>and we actually stayed in that town for about five

819
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 1>or six years. You know, we lived around the areas

820
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 1>we still moved from, like Trainer Park to train the

821
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Park and all as stuff, you know, in the apartment

822
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>complexes and everything else. But we still lived in the area.

823
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And there's those little community towns within, uh you know,

824
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 1>five ten miles away that we actually moved out, like

825
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>farm Farm Country area too, but still way Rika was

826
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>our main hub and went to high school there for

827
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years. Yes, So, like I said, the

828
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the fear actually kind of up because we met up

829
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 1>with other friends up after that. After that time though,

830
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>we we had a couple of other friends that we

831
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>actually were hiking up in the mountains with ourselves. We

832
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 1>can hike up from right apartment complex we were at,

833
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a cyber event on the south side, goes right

834
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 1>up to the cemetery and it's only a couple of

835
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 1>blocks away and it goes right into up to just

836
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 1>before you go into the mountains. All you had group.

837
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 1>All you gotta do is walk through the cemetery and

838
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you just jump over a little fence right there and

839
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you can and there's a there's a pathway that just

840
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 1>goes right up to up to the top of the

841
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to the grade, and it's about it comes up to

842
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>about a two hundred ft elevation game by the time

843
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you get to the top of the ridge up there.

844
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 1>But then you can just walk towards the north on

845
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the top of that mountain up there, and then can

846
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 1>there's an overlook you can overlook and you can see

847
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole town and we can see the I can

848
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>see the where you can see the apartment complex, and

849
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you see the school and everything right where we were at.

850
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, it looks like a bunch of little ants

851
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and stuff looking at it from where we're at. But

852
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you can also see the freeway, you can see the

853
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I five, and you can see the rest of the

854
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>town right right next to it. And you can also

855
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>see Mount Shasta. Mount Shasta's only about thirty miles to

856
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the southeast of town up on the ridge that you

857
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>can see that pretty good. And it's kind of flat

858
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>up there anyways, everything east of town, and everything is

859
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of a flat more flat. There's no mountains you

860
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 1>can see except for that, except for that Mount Shasta,

861
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, beam up there. We were up

862
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 1>there about a couple of years after, you know, after

863
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>this happened. So and I felt comfortable being up in

864
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the mountains anyways, because we do a lot of hiking

865
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and camping anyways. But but standing up on that ridge,

866
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you can, I can know, I just me and my

867
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>brother would just imagine how the what the bigfoot we're

868
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at? Yeah, you know, And and of course they

869
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 1>they must have been doing this kind of stuff for years,

870
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe not going into town all the time whatever. Be like,

871
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I still haven't planning saying that they'd go down on

872
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>the outskirts of town like that. But but it definitely

873
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 1>happened to us, you know, for whatever reason. And like

874
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, I believe that these were probe juveniles and

875
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 1>they're probably curious, and of course they know what the

876
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 1>screw is. So I'm sure they've been up there on

877
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 1>that top of the ridge looking down on the They

878
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 1>know that there's kids that play in that playground all

879
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the time. M hm, So they knew the path, so

880
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they probably wanted that same exact path where to get

881
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to get over at least towards that side of the screw.

882
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where they are hanging out anywhere past

883
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that screw or not going into town, because right there,

884
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.159
<v Speaker 1>about a block or two arrays right there, there's an

885
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 1>alley behind those there's like a bunch of stores and

886
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>restaurants and stuff. There's an alley where they got these

887
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>big bends, big trash bands where they throw away own

888
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 1>food and stuff. Like don't like, there's a doughnut shop there.

889
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They throw food away, you know, like they old doughts

890
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. They got a pizza place over there. So

891
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is just pure theory that you know that

892
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they might have just went down there to be looking

893
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.519
<v Speaker 1>to the trash cans or whatever. But that's just my

894
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>my own personal theory.

895
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh. I would I would say that's a pretty solid theory. Actually.

896
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the thing was, like I said, it was,

897
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a drought going off. So that's the reason

898
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 1>why that even even I brought that up, because even

899
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 1>while we were even while we were there, even afterwards,

900
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>we we already we we even knew, we already knew

901
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>reports of uh of other wildlife coming down into town

902
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that that normally room come down in town. Like there's

903
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of deer would come down for sure. Uh,

904
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 1>coyones were known to come down and uh uh and

905
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>what over else you know up there, you know, but

906
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>mostly dear stuff that you normally wouldn't see come down

907
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in town like that. But so yeah, so we'd heard

908
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a report about like that, So I kind of fear

909
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the manu those those even if those creatures coming down,

910
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 1>they're probably trying to figure out a way to eat also,

911
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, find something, you know, so that especially when

912
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not with that, you know.

913
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so where I live in Oklahoma, stories of

914
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot coming into towns, you know, areas like you're talking

915
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 2>about that's just like kind of on the edge of

916
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>town where it dumps out into the wilderness or whatever,

917
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and them coming in and raiding dumpsters, hanging around schools,

918
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 2>being seen by kids at school playing baseball like you're

919
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.199
<v Speaker 2>right there on the baseball. I mean, everything that you're

920
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about, even down to the cemetery, are like common

921
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>things that people tell stories about in com are even bigfoot.

922
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just it's uh to and even to this day,

923
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I even me and my well freak, well, me and

924
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 1>my brother. We once this happened, we talked, We talked

925
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 1>about it probably within that year, but then we just

926
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>stopped talking about it all together. After that, you know,

927
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we just decided, okay, that was it. And then over

928
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the years we never really talked about it. But you know,

929
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>we always, uh we were pretty sy about telling people

930
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was we were shy kids. We were always moving around,

931
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 1>so we didn't have any friends. We just had to

932
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>make friends every time we moved, so so we ended

933
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>up being kind of shy until we moved around so

934
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>much and go different schools.

935
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna ask you, like, did you, you know,

936
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.679
<v Speaker 2>being kids and all, did you talk to other kids

937
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 2>about it later on?

938
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, no, after this incident. Uh even we were

939
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 1>back back at that time when I was going through

940
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 1>my uh my, my episode, when I was in the

941
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>middle of that field at night, you know, eight or

942
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 1>nine or not. That night, we sat around, we just

943
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 1>sat around in a circle. Eventually after I because I

944
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>was in shock for so, I was in shock so

945
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.159
<v Speaker 1>bad that I couldn't even lunch and I couldn't even

946
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even really speak of anything for about a

947
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.039
<v Speaker 1>half an hour to forty five minutes later, So we

948
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>decided to sit around and I'm of course, I'm facing

949
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in the circle. I'm looking, I'm facing towards the fence

950
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just that's because I'm only had the most

951
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 1>traumatic traumatic out of all of us. I had the

952
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 1>worst aout all of us. So so we started talking

953
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 1>about instantly, we compared stories with each other. Of course

954
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I was the last one to finally get to say something,

955
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I was able to finally say something.

956
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But then we came to the conclusion that what that.

957
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 1>The two brothers, the two other brothers, they suggested that

958
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 1>we just we should go to the police department. Right, yeah, well,

959
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother already this is already, this is

960
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 1>already probably an hour into already, what are what happened?

961
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So the situation was already done with. And besides that,

962
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother, we were so soft spoken ourselves anyways,

963
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and we and like I said, we don't like any

964
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 1>confrontational type of situation. We don't like going to the

965
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>police for just bandom stuff like that. Especially you've been

966
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to the police department and you know, telling

967
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 1>them that we just saw three big foots playing in

968
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the playground. You know it's this It ain't gonna happen

969
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 1>for us because we had Me and my brother has

970
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>enough sense that first of all, we just got to

971
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that town within just days, within three days to a week,

972
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, it was pretty it was a pretty

973
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 1>quick evolution that happened. But for us to show up

974
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 1>in the town where nobody knows us and then here

975
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>we are telling, telling, talking about a big foot story.

976
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>We you know, me and my brother just don't want

977
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 1>to have that type of a tension.

978
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not starting out great.

979
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Well at all. So and me and my brother eve

980
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>at fifteen, we had a lot of common sense, and

981
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we purpose talked to the other brothers too. It wasn't

982
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't that hard to talk to them, just say, hey,

983
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not worth it. You're just gonna all you're

984
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna do is a bye, all of this to be ridiculed, basically.

985
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's and that's basically what happened. We just all decided, okay,

986
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 1>yeah we're not We're not gonna say anything. That's it.

987
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>And then with those two brothers, what's funny about them

988
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>is that we like said when we need were for

989
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 1>a few days at that point in time, and we

990
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 1>also went to school with them in high school. But

991
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.679
<v Speaker 1>after that night we once we once they were a

992
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 1>home and we went back to our into the apartment

993
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. We never hooked back up with these guys again.

994
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>We just we seen them. We weren't we weren't animals.

995
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 1>We were actually we were still a friendly to him

996
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, but we didn't we didn't become like best

997
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 1>friends with them at all. Yeah, and we never talked

998
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to him about the situation. Resist for whatever reason, we

999
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>just once we separated, the bigfoot kind of thing just stopped.

1000
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>We just didn't talk about it. We didn't definitely talk

1001
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 1>about it while we were in school and and anybody else,

1002
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 1>except when we didn't go back to the apartment complex

1003
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that night. We tried to tell my aunt about what

1004
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>was going on. Her and her boyfriend decided they were

1005
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>just laughing at us, basically, you know, just joking. I

1006
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say flat out laughing, but there they knew that.

1007
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.800
<v Speaker 1>They just thought it was just the fact that we

1008
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just showed up and that we're just seeing things or whatever,

1009
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's all the So they were definitely a

1010
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>they they definitely didn't leave our story at that particular time.

1011
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so and when, like I said, matter of fact,

1012
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>we didn't even I didn't even tell anybody about our story.

1013
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Like over twenty something years later, basically, uh, me and

1014
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>my brother both started working on the the ships we

1015
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.159
<v Speaker 1>started working we were merchant mariners for twenty five years

1016
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and anyways, we were working on the ships, and that's

1017
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>when I first my brother did it was even less

1018
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.159
<v Speaker 1>pocket than myself. You know, I was the most boisterous

1019
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 1>out of all, out of me and him, I was

1020
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one always like to talk little bit, but

1021
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>even though I'm still I'm still very reserved and that

1022
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 1>very shy, but I'm just a little bit more vocal

1023
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>than my brother. Basically is where I get that point.

1024
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 1>But I ended up telling her I was working on

1025
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a boat with it, and I had a captain who

1026
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I told the story to you, and he was the

1027
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>first person. And I was about I was probably about thirty,

1028
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I was probably about five or

1029
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 1>thirty six, I think when I when I told him

1030
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that story years later, yeah, you know, and then the

1031
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 1>only sad thing about the only bad thing about that

1032
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 1>was that my captain. You know, he's one of those

1033
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.400
<v Speaker 1>guys that just he loves stories and he likes to

1034
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 1>joke around. He likes to talk a lot. I mean,

1035
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 1>he he we were talking in personally that subject he

1036
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>came up because he lived he lives that in Tahoe,

1037
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was telling me about a lot of his

1038
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.880
<v Speaker 1>bearer encounters and all that stuff. And then, for whatever reason,

1039
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I decided to feel comfortable and to say, well, I

1040
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>got a story to tell you about Bigfoot. And he

1041
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was and he seemed to be very imbaressed about it,

1042
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, And I'm telling him the exact same story

1043
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'm telling you. And at the end of that story,

1044
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:12.559
<v Speaker 1>he was pretty excited about it, and he and he

1045
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and he related to me that he that he beat me.

1046
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 1>But later on I found out that he was even

1047
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 1>though if he believed me in art even to this day,

1048
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he believed it, but he knew,

1049
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he knew how much of an honest person I was.

1050
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 1>So I just can't believe that he'd even think that

1051
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't telling him the truth, you know, I just

1052
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I worked with him for about fifteen years, but basically

1053
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 1>he would always he would be telling the story, the

1054
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>same story, or he would tell a story every time

1055
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a new person would come in, like a new maid

1056
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.920
<v Speaker 1>or new deckhand would come in, and I was always

1057
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 1>there for I was there for a long time myself.

1058
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>He would always have them go ask me to tell

1059
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>them about the Bigfoot story. I didn't like that because

1060
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I already I already felt very self conscious about telling

1061
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that story, because it's even to this day, it's embarrassing

1062
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 1>to tell the story, and just just to normal people,

1063
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't like telling It's just it's an

1064
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing subject just because you know they're going to look

1065
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 1>at you kind of kind of weird, you know. So yeah,

1066
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So basically, so I had to tell my story quite

1067
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a few different times, or at least a few different times.

1068
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:22.159
<v Speaker 1>So I kept telling my cap I don't want to

1069
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him to be kept keep telling people,

1070
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 1>you know that I've got, you know, this brutus story,

1071
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:28.639
<v Speaker 1>because it's just I don't want to have to deal

1072
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>with all that stuff, you know. So that's basically it.

1073
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But but then now we jump up all the until

1074
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>just uh, basically this just this last January, that's the

1075
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.960
<v Speaker 1>only time. That's the first time i'd actually became more.

1076
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I actually started telling everybody on Facebook all because I

1077
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>joined all these groups. I didn't realize that that Facebook

1078
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 1>had all these uh bigfoot groups, uh pages. So I

1079
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>started looking into all that stuff, and then I started

1080
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I joined about a half or not to happen, I

1081
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.159
<v Speaker 1>actually it doesn't. I pick out twelve different I didn't

1082
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>want to just join every one of them. I just

1083
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 1>joined like the twelve of the most rate, top rated ones.

1084
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I could see they had the most followers, you know,

1085
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.599
<v Speaker 1>and uh, so I just started joining all of them.

1086
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Then I then I decided to do a word a

1087
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 1>word processing where I just wrote out my whole story

1088
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.440
<v Speaker 1>so that way I would have to repeat the same thing,

1089
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:26.239
<v Speaker 1>so I can just go and cut and paste that

1090
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>into the posts. You know, it's it, So I just

1091
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so I just do it one time. All I do

1092
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 1>is just cut and paste my saying story to all

1093
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 1>the all those twenty four groups that I did. And

1094
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 1>not all of those posts accepted my my stories because

1095
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 1>they some of those posts they don't allow certain types

1096
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, I guess, but the majority of them, majority

1097
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of my of those groups that I did actually posted

1098
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 1>my stove. So and only like a day after that posting,

1099
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 1>which is like basically why on January January first, is right?

1100
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.039
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time I posted, and that was

1101
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the very first day when I got my first person

1102
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that came that that contacted me about a podcast want

1103
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:15.199
<v Speaker 1>me to be on their podcast station. At this point,

1104
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I did not even I didn't even know

1105
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 1>what a podcast was. I didn't know what a podcast

1106
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 1>station was. I didn't know anything about a podcast. The

1107
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>only thing I don't even talking about what I didn't

1108
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 1>even know what the nerve. I didn't even know the

1109
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>term podcast. But I knew Joe like Joe Rogan, which

1110
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I watched here, but I didn't know that was a podcast,

1111
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:34.199
<v Speaker 1>which I didn't know that. I just know I've watched

1112
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like Joe Rogan.

1113
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you jumped right into the deep end.

1114
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Everything happened. So it was it was crazy because I

1115
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 1>got Linda eastbourn Is is the first person that that

1116
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 1>got to hold me. And I don't know if you

1117
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 1>know her or not, but she's she's a researcher herself,

1118
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but she goes by her name that but she's a podcaster,

1119
00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.360
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't have like a regular title for her

1120
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.960
<v Speaker 1>pod cast, it's just her name. Yeah, so she got

1121
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>she contact moved. I'm going okay. I had to ask

1122
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:08.840
<v Speaker 1>her what it pot would have meant? But what was it?

1123
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.880
<v Speaker 1>What was a podcast? Right? So so so I didn't

1124
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>know what it was. And then she told, yes, she's

1125
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 1>she told me where she was, what she's all about,

1126
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and see, uh, you know, she broadcasts her stuff on

1127
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube and everything. Because even YouTube I didn't realize

1128
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 1>had all those podcasts on it, you know. And I

1129
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and since then, of course, I've been I've just been

1130
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I've been infatuated with with YouTube. That's my main channel,

1131
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and I've been watching and tools tons of bigfoot uh

1132
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, documentary type stuff and podcasts like I said,

1133
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.599
<v Speaker 1>like and like you said earlier, it was I just

1134
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 1>jumped myself into not realizing what was going to follow

1135
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.639
<v Speaker 1>after that, because I ended up doing You're my eighth

1136
01:00:55.239 --> 01:01:00.119
<v Speaker 1>my eighth podcast so forth this point, you know, in

1137
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 1>seven months since January, and then of course one of

1138
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>those podcasts, I uh, I actually had to me and

1139
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>my brother traveled to a to a It wasn't that far.

1140
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Why it's a couple hours away from us. Well, Santa Cruz.

1141
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a radio station and apparently that's ah they do

1142
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the nighttime program and it's a It's Natural podcast. So

1143
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 1>we actually went there and this time listened to my

1144
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 1>first time that my brother was actually on with me.

1145
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So now we both were there. So at least the

1146
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>nice one with my brother is that that he can

1147
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.239
<v Speaker 1>actually he was my witness as well, so he was

1148
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 1>able to balidate exactly everything I was saying. But but

1149
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of course his his you know, his take on what

1150
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:50.079
<v Speaker 1>he saw was was at a different vantage point from

1151
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:53.119
<v Speaker 1>where I was at, which which actually which actually gives

1152
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot more credibility to the whole story. Anyways, you know,

1153
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 1>because because of course it's me and my brother. Listen,

1154
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother was on that fence line right

1155
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>next to each other, and we see the same thing,

1156
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and basically we're just boasts telling the same exact story.

1157
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, that's all that.

1158
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.800
<v Speaker 1>But now that my brother rays involved and you know,

1159
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.559
<v Speaker 1>to be able to you know, validate my my story too,

1160
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and he will tell his part of the story. It

1161
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 1>all ties into both of our stories. Basically, it all

1162
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 1>is the same. It's the same. It was the same encounter,

1163
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.119
<v Speaker 1>even though my encounter was the one that was the

1164
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 1>more frightening part of it.

1165
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I was going to ask you, with

1166
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 2>you being the more talkative one, how he felt about

1167
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 2>you coming forward and sharing the encounter. Has he been

1168
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:43.760
<v Speaker 2>supportive and everything?

1169
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, he was definitely supportive of He's kind of embarrassing

1170
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 1>because after I got on and did all these podcasts

1171
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, because we will do door dashing together right together.

1172
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He does his door dash and I do my door dash.

1173
01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And we lived in a section and town where we

1174
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.800
<v Speaker 1>had like a it's a small it's a small community area.

1175
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 1>We've got all these we got like pizza places, we

1176
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 1>got all these different places that and then everybody's gotten

1177
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the nose pretty good. You know, we got our people,

1178
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the store owners, I mean actually actually become pretty uh

1179
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.599
<v Speaker 1>people recognize us and and they know our names. You're

1180
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. So you know, and now that I know

1181
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.559
<v Speaker 1>these people by name when I go when I started

1182
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.840
<v Speaker 1>doing my podcast and stuff, now I'm starting to brag

1183
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to everybody about my podcast. You know, I've been on podcasts,

1184
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this and then uh, you know, going

1185
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Santa Cruz. I've also told them about me

1186
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 1>going to Seattle to be on a you know, on

1187
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 1>this uh uh, this show that's gonna be broadcast here

1188
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. Next year sometime we'll do the documentary. But

1189
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 1>now we're almost kind of becoming like a like a

1190
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like a local celebrity type of situation. You know, as

1191
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I go to this restaurant, to a family restaurant with

1192
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 1>an owner, he comes. I walk in there, and he

1193
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 1>when I first told him about us, you know about

1194
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.079
<v Speaker 1>these podcasts of he you know, he got really into it.

1195
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And then now when I was going in there, at first,

1196
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he was getting me to guys and to go to

1197
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 1>all these customers. He'd be walking into the customers to

1198
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 1>shake their hands and stuff. This is the guy that

1199
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I told you about that was that uh that saw Bigfoot,

1200
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean it was embarrassing. I was still embarrassed.

1201
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want that. I didn't want that type of attention,

1202
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 1>especially because a big put because then then a crowd

1203
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of people in a restaurant, and I don't like crowds anyways.

1204
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 1>And and and now now we're gonna go back to

1205
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about my brother. My brother was even it's definitely

1206
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>not hip with being a center of attention whatsoever. And

1207
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 1>he's he was embarrassed. But but the cat was already

1208
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the bag, you know, and and there's nothing

1209
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I can do about it.

1210
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1211
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 1>So, but but now he's become more more into because

1212
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 1>now people are starting to they I tell him about

1213
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>all these different podcasts that have been on, and I

1214
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>talk about a little bit more, but not in groups.

1215
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like cocking in groups, and I get embarrassed

1216
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and I know there's too many people around, and you know,

1217
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so I don't want that kind of attention. I don't

1218
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:08.760
<v Speaker 1>want to be known as a celebrity either. I don't

1219
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 1>want that type of atmosphere. I just want to just

1220
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I just want to, you know, be just a normal person.

1221
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, you are a normal person. You're just

1222
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 2>part of a very uh select few that have witnessed

1223
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:28.360
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot and uh, you're you're becoming the bigfoot guy of

1224
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:29.119
<v Speaker 2>your community.

1225
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I seem started to back my mind, you know,

1226
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm mis thinking. Okay, I hope that people aren't looking

1227
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:37.280
<v Speaker 1>at you. It's like I'm a you know, you know,

1228
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a crazy person, I guess, but but yeah, but people

1229
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 1>know this, you know that they don't know as personally

1230
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:44.519
<v Speaker 1>as far as our own what we do in our

1231
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 1>lives or anything. But they do know. It's because we

1232
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 1>go into the restaurants and stuff to get the gor

1233
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.519
<v Speaker 1>dash food and oasta. But you know, so don't They

1234
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 1>don't really notice our personal level as far as are

1235
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 1>where we live and all that stuff. But but they

1236
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 1>knew our personalities and they know that who we are

1237
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.320
<v Speaker 1>as me and my brother together.

1238
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the through respect this one that was you know,

1239
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and your brother went with you, I assume for the

1240
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.440
<v Speaker 2>television show deal, right.

1241
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's and that was that was the God God

1242
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 1>sends for me too, because you know, because it's one

1243
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.320
<v Speaker 1>thing if you got one person that has experienced the

1244
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 1>uh uh, you know, an encounter or whatever, because that's

1245
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and all that comes out to me is your own story.

1246
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't have anything to back. You don't

1247
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.960
<v Speaker 1>have any kind of collaborations of any kind. You know,

1248
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 1>you don't have validation, you don't have anybody to help

1249
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the firm what you got. So so they particularly like that.

1250
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.400
<v Speaker 1>The producers really really predictably, they loved our story because

1251
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that we were of course twins. For

1252
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:49.960
<v Speaker 1>one thing, because when they're asking me questions about about

1253
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 1>my about the very first thing through rule. But we're

1254
01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:56.199
<v Speaker 1>both actually and we both had our own interviews separately,

1255
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 1>so that's gonna be all tied into the to the

1256
01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:01.039
<v Speaker 1>episode because they're going to be doing a lot of editing.

1257
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 1>But so mine came up first, and all they wanted

1258
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 1>we would do for the first half an hour or

1259
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.360
<v Speaker 1>even an hour, is to ask me what I felt

1260
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.519
<v Speaker 1>about my brother, you know, tell me about Ray. Tell

1261
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:15.480
<v Speaker 1>me about Ray. And I would start talking about Ray,

1262
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and then I'll start kind of drifting off a little

1263
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 1>bit more and drift on me and started sort of

1264
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 1>talking about something else that made it to the big book, right,

1265
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and then they're they're really moved back in and then

1266
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they say, oh, yeah, so tell me about Ray. They

1267
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>did this about two or there different times, and you know,

1268
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and and then I said, but Outdoor grew last to

1269
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:38.159
<v Speaker 1>me that you know, they're very friendly, but they definitely

1270
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:39.679
<v Speaker 1>calmed me down. The way they were talking to me.

1271
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:41.760
<v Speaker 1>We're just talking like just normal people, you know. Just

1272
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt very comfortable with me, and the

1273
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.639
<v Speaker 1>lady that was the the one doing the talking for

1274
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:51.639
<v Speaker 1>me with me asked me the questions and stuff. This

1275
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 1>is funny. I just got to kind of laughing and said, okay,

1276
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about my brother, you know. But I

1277
01:07:56.760 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they were just trying to gather as

1278
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 1>much information different things so they can start blending stuff together.

1279
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 1>And then of course it started, and then I started

1280
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 1>doing the it's nicely. They just asked me questions about

1281
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 1>different parts of my story and stuff, and I pretty

1282
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 1>much told the whole story of the summer. It was

1283
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.319
<v Speaker 1>like stop every once in a while, like let's say

1284
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the airplane by, we'd have to stop so we're on

1285
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a break and or continue my story. But then they

1286
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.640
<v Speaker 1>then they'd go down and then we want to talk

1287
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 1>about my childhood. We kind of booked around a lot

1288
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to the story, but eventually I did tell the whole story.

1289
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just that they're gonna be blending everything together. We're

1290
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.880
<v Speaker 1>all flows in the one and that includes my cot

1291
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 1>so that includes my brother, you know. So and there's

1292
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:42.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely a lot of that. They definitely brought more of

1293
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a personality out of both me and my brother, because

1294
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.840
<v Speaker 1>there's usually things that I usually say is more of

1295
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a joking manner that I'd usually saved trends and stuff,

1296
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I was not loose where I can.

1297
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Actually I had a lot of pretty good comic type

1298
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of the atmosphere going on the times, if my stories

1299
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, you know, my analogy of what was going on.

1300
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And then when they got my brother, even be though

1301
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 1>they got my brother, so my brother was coming up

1302
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>next after after my I I even warned him, I said, okay,

1303
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this is it. My brother only has my My brother

1304
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:20.720
<v Speaker 1>only has like media maybe a five minute discussion at

1305
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the most, because first of all, he doesn't like to

1306
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 1>talk anyways. And my brother, as far as he was concerned,

1307
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 1>all he wanted to do is just just basically just say, hey,

1308
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I seen three bigfoots coming from my right hand side

1309
01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and the last time I seen him on my left

1310
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 1>hand side. And that was it. That's what my brother

1311
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say, kind of like in that in

1312
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.079
<v Speaker 1>that aspect of it all, you know, I said that

1313
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you're probably you know my my interview with these with

1314
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the production was a about two hours or so now

1315
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:52.279
<v Speaker 1>that and I had to wonder them and I told

1316
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.199
<v Speaker 1>because I you know, my crew was laid out the

1317
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 1>line about my brother being a lot more reserved and

1318
01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 1>shy than I am, even though we're both shy. I

1319
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.079
<v Speaker 1>was was always saying I had like one or two

1320
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.079
<v Speaker 1>friends at the most at any given time, and we

1321
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:07.199
<v Speaker 1>both had that. We both shared the same friends, you know,

1322
01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:12.199
<v Speaker 1>so we we didn't like big groups. So uh yes,

1323
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So then so I already wanted him. I say, you're

1324
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:15.720
<v Speaker 1>probably you're probably the best of you didn't probably get

1325
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 1>out of and then maybe half an hour if you

1326
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.920
<v Speaker 1>pull it out of him. But then I was totally

1327
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:24.279
<v Speaker 1>surprised because once once in my interview ended, Uh, they

1328
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 1>had to, they needed to take a break. Anyway, as

1329
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.760
<v Speaker 1>they came out, they told Ray, we're gonna get back

1330
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to you by another twenty minutes. So allowed me enough

1331
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 1>time to talk to my brother and just say, hey,

1332
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 1>that's because my brother's already nervous. He didn't he really

1333
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't even want to be there. Okay, so here's the

1334
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:39.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like I said, he wanted to get in and

1335
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 1>out of there as quickly as possible, and he was

1336
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 1>already mad because it took so long. And now that

1337
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm done, here's really now that I'm relieved that the

1338
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.119
<v Speaker 1>whole thing was over for myself. Now he knew that

1339
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:52.279
<v Speaker 1>he had to come up and start talking that he didn't,

1340
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.479
<v Speaker 1>and he was very reserved. But I told him I

1341
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 1>had to relax him and tell him, hey, it's not

1342
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.760
<v Speaker 1>what you think. These people. These people are actually very

1343
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just like you're talking to and they're just gonna

1344
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 1>be I told him that they're just gonna be bouncing around,

1345
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.079
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna just be asking me questions, so you didn't

1346
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:11.479
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about just just going and start talking

1347
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like I do. Like like a story. I just told you,

1348
01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I went through the whole my whole story, and the

1349
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.199
<v Speaker 1>whole process of the story without being interrupted, of course.

1350
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:23.560
<v Speaker 1>But but with that production team, they just boust around

1351
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and they just asked me questions and stuff. Yeah, and

1352
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that's and I called my brother down and by the

1353
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.319
<v Speaker 1>time he got out, his took almost as long as

1354
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>his interview took as long as my interview did. And

1355
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what how much information they get

1356
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:40.800
<v Speaker 1>out of because his part of the story was only

1357
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a matter of just just to you know, like I said,

1358
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 1>only a couple of minutes, you know. So I was

1359
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 1>very surprised that they got, is it, whatever information they got,

1360
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they really did. They wanted to find out a whole

1361
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 1>bunch of our family without bringing as well, which I

1362
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.000
<v Speaker 1>came round to that also, so my brother had to

1363
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.680
<v Speaker 1>tie into you know, whatever he can remember of our

1364
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:05.479
<v Speaker 1>childhood and anything after the fact and won't get through

1365
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a living and all that stuff.

1366
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of have an advantage as a podcast

1367
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.800
<v Speaker 2>host whenever I talk to guests and stuff and correspond

1368
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:17.600
<v Speaker 2>with them a little bit, and you know, sometimes you know,

1369
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:21.800
<v Speaker 2>it goes even further after the podcast, you know, I

1370
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.119
<v Speaker 2>become friends with them and talk to them on a

1371
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:27.479
<v Speaker 2>regular basis, and you get to know the people, and

1372
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the people that have these experiences, have stories, they have backgrounds,

1373
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 2>they're normal people, you know, and a lot of times

1374
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 2>people just hear the Bigfoot story and that's it, and

1375
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 2>then they make their judgments going off the story without

1376
01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:49.359
<v Speaker 2>actually knowing the person. So hopefully this TV show will

1377
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 2>paint a picture of who you and your brother are

1378
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.159
<v Speaker 2>as people you know, and where you came from and everything.

1379
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I believe so. Like I said, even with

1380
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:01.159
<v Speaker 1>all this sorts of the thing I've done, and I've

1381
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.800
<v Speaker 1>only done any of the major resource, uh the research

1382
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I've done, It's just been the last seven months and

1383
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know where that the Patterson Gimman film

1384
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 1>site was even at I know where the area is

1385
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 1>at because I've been up there lots of times. I've

1386
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.039
<v Speaker 1>been through uh Willow Creek, I've been on a motorcycle

1387
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 1>ride and stuff, and but I didn't realize that that's

1388
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:27.720
<v Speaker 1>where the that Giveman firm set was located. And and

1389
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>being that close, and then I also guarantee you that

1390
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>even with all this other stuff going on, I can

1391
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:38.640
<v Speaker 1>almost guarantee you that there's probably I mean, who knows

1392
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:42.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousands more people that that that that have

1393
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 1>stories but just choose not to tell the story because

1394
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of they might be people like Moon that don't want

1395
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to be ridly cuted, you know, yeah, you know, and

1396
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 1>most and most of those people are the people that

1397
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.680
<v Speaker 1>live in the outskirts of town. Basically, they're not they're

1398
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 1>not gonna didn't people are not gonna see a big

1399
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 1>foot walking down the main drag or anything. So they're

1400
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.359
<v Speaker 1>not living near and close to the mountain ranges or whatever,

1401
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, somewhere where the big Brits can hide, you know,

1402
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:09.640
<v Speaker 1>based on farm land and stuff. You know, you hear

1403
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot about that too. But most of those people

1404
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.680
<v Speaker 1>are pretty logical people. I mean, they're just they seen

1405
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.239
<v Speaker 1>something for sure, you know. And and those people do

1406
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that a little of them and are planted in certain

1407
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:24.159
<v Speaker 1>areas that see these bigfoot they see they seen the

1408
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.079
<v Speaker 1>same group of bigfoots all the time. This is you know.

1409
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I always thought that when you see a bigfoot that

1410
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that was probably given me the last time you see it.

1411
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just a one time deal, you know, which is

1412
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.720
<v Speaker 1>what happened to me. I didn't realize that those people

1413
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that are living along the edges of the of the

1414
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of the wilderness, that that that frequently frequently see these

1415
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.760
<v Speaker 1>same creatures, you know, like the same family of creatures,

1416
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, sewing up on their properties and stuff, and

1417
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.079
<v Speaker 1>they have multiple sidings and encounters.

1418
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean interactions or what I call interactions

1419
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>where you've got certain situations where somebody lives somewhere just

1420
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.479
<v Speaker 2>in the right spot, and bigfoot comes on their property

1421
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:06.359
<v Speaker 2>or crosses through their property every now and then, and

1422
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.239
<v Speaker 2>they realize that the bigfoot aren't a threat, just like

1423
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:14.199
<v Speaker 2>you did. And the bigfoot more importantly realizes that person

1424
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:18.960
<v Speaker 2>isn't a threat. Uh yeah. There's sightings and encounters that

1425
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:22.880
<v Speaker 2>go on for years and years, sometimes multiple generations in

1426
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:23.520
<v Speaker 2>one family.

1427
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's just it's crazy. Even and even like

1428
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, I even found out of course that that

1429
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that that that that community or the county that I

1430
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:42.239
<v Speaker 1>live in has has the most amount of UH reports

1431
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot out of the whole state of California, well

1432
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:50.359
<v Speaker 1>basically whole Mountain Range basically has the most amount of

1433
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the reporting of bigfoots. And some are pretty recent big plusses.

1434
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:58.399
<v Speaker 1>One's running in the Marble Mountains, which is actually the

1435
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.359
<v Speaker 1>closer than the Passer. I don't know if you've seen

1436
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that one with a boy Scout. The boy Scouts seen

1437
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot. They're just not very long ago.

1438
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.520
<v Speaker 2>It's all yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Have you

1439
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:17.159
<v Speaker 2>seen there's a video out there that's pretty popular, or

1440
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 2>at least it used to be years ago of uh.

1441
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's in Russia. They're they're speaking a language

1442
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:31.079
<v Speaker 2>that sounds Russian or Eastern European of some kind, and

1443
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:36.239
<v Speaker 2>they just show a bigfoot or what's supposed to be

1444
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:40.319
<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot, but it's jumping like you were talking about.

1445
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:43.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like leaping from right to left through the woods.

1446
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that particularly, I can't I can't recall if I've

1447
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:49.800
<v Speaker 1>seen that one. Or not, because I've been watching so

1448
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:54.640
<v Speaker 1>many of many ways. Yeah, but I've definitely seen ones

1449
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:56.720
<v Speaker 1>like you're explaining. I've definitely seen something.

1450
01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll send you a copy of it because I want to.

1451
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear your opinion on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, definitely,

1452
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:07.960
<v Speaker 2>because you are the first person that I've ever talked

1453
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:09.439
<v Speaker 2>to that described them leaping.

1454
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I realized that either, you know, it's just

1455
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it was just weird. Yeah, of course I attributed that

1456
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they're just leaping over the taller

1457
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:23.199
<v Speaker 1>grass and stuff anyway, so it's stuck out be a

1458
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.800
<v Speaker 1>normal thing that maybe other people might have seen too.

1459
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't really think about what other people,

1460
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, other stories about how they.

1461
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Well everybody has different encounters, you know, so that that's fine.

1462
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:40.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just interesting. I definitely want to get

1463
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 2>your opinion on it.

1464
01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And of course, and some people get have that

1465
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that real bad smell of a big putting everything, which

1466
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't encounter, you know, and the different things like

1467
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no eye shine, no, no no croaking. It was

1468
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 1>just to me, I look at it. It's definitely a

1469
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a flesh of blood creature is what I looked at

1470
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it as you know, as normal as you and I

1471
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:12.079
<v Speaker 1>is what I experienced. I mean, I'm not saying that,

1472
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:16.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not down play anybody else's experience, even when

1473
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it comes to UFOs and all that stuff.

1474
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, if I could give you a bit of advice,

1475
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 2>as somebody that's been around for a really long time

1476
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Bigfoot community or whatever you want to call it,

1477
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>don't get caught up in all that stuff. You know,

1478
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you know what your encounter was, and that's the information

1479
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that you have to add to the puzzle. And people

1480
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.119
<v Speaker 2>can take it as they want, you know, if they

1481
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 2>want to argue that that's not how it really happened

1482
01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and you're wrong about this, and you know, like it's

1483
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:51.840
<v Speaker 2>easy to get caught up in all that. And I

1484
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.960
<v Speaker 2>sincerely hope that doesn't happen with you, or.

1485
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.439
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't at all, because even on my Facebook, I

1486
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.720
<v Speaker 1>would I talk to people on a dipper groups or anything,

1487
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and and you're always getting people that are just trying

1488
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to debate me, you know, I always I just pretty

1489
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:07.880
<v Speaker 1>much shut them down right away. I just say first

1490
01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I just say, first of all, I'm not really I'm

1491
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 1>already well past the debating stage of my situation because

1492
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm already a nowherre anyways. And first of all, and

1493
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking for somebody else to validate what I

1494
01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>know exists myself. I've already got all that stuff. And

1495
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even I'm not even trying to condense anybody.

1496
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to I just tell my story as

1497
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>it goes. And I also tell them that really the

1498
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>uh uh, the debunking really falls upon those you know

1499
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that are trying to find the truth themselves or even

1500
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know. That's basically where I look at it.

1501
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.600
<v Speaker 1>It's their responsibility to try to find the truth. It's

1502
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.399
<v Speaker 1>not my responsibility. I like I said at the same time,

1503
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>with you tell me that when you tell a me,

1504
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's just just just give them my story.

1505
01:19:57.960 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's all I can do, you know, That's all

1506
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I either way. But this is the first time my

1507
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>story has been is actually public. It's it's public now,

1508
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's public knowledge, it's recorded because I did the bf

1509
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:12.399
<v Speaker 1>R O just last week. I submitted my whole claim.

1510
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I did the whole word processing thing and and ould

1511
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.079
<v Speaker 1>story and everything, and that's that's still under review. And

1512
01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:21.079
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff that's gonna take probably months before it

1513
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:27.399
<v Speaker 1>gets posted on the bfr BFRO website. And then you know,

1514
01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:29.640
<v Speaker 1>they and and and it goes from county and it

1515
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>will go all the way down to all the counties

1516
01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in California. For where is what state? I pushed on anyways?

1517
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>But so yeah, so what my story is just another

1518
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>record as far as we're ore, you know, and and

1519
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.039
<v Speaker 1>it gives it's just another place where they could put

1520
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>a little period on on a map showing that there's

1521
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.039
<v Speaker 1>a siding you know, whost all the hundreds of thousands

1522
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of other uh sighting side.

1523
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the grand scheme of things, yes, but for

1524
01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you it's something much more. It's much more than a pinpoint.

1525
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for me for sure, I, like I said, Yeah,

1526
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.319
<v Speaker 1>besides that, like I said, he'd just given my report

1527
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and every thing. But at least that's adding to it.

1528
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:14.479
<v Speaker 1>But I also I've got grandkids too, you know. And

1529
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I when I did, you know, even before I even

1530
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>started talking to you right now, you know, I didn't

1531
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>mention that I actually the first thing I did was

1532
01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:25.119
<v Speaker 1>write a book. I wrote a book of my story

1533
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and I published it every since then, I actually dropped

1534
01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it after a couple of months because I wasn't making

1535
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>any money off of the news. But I did. I

1536
01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.039
<v Speaker 1>wrote a book and it published, and I got copies

1537
01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:40.000
<v Speaker 1>where I just I said, I gave a I autographed

1538
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it for my grandkids, you know, and I had a

1539
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.880
<v Speaker 1>couple from my my sons and stuff. So if everything

1540
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>else I ever told my sons, even if they don't

1541
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>believe me or not, I want my grandkids and I

1542
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>want them to know at least know who I am,

1543
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 1>at least what basically that I did, you know, certain

1544
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.199
<v Speaker 1>things I did when I was growing up. Whether they

1545
01:21:57.239 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's true or not, it doesn't matter. But either ways,

1546
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>if they do come up with the truth anytime during

1547
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>their lifetime, if they do discover Bigfoot, at least they

1548
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>know that that that you know, they said their grandfather,

1549
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>which be me, They're gonna they're gonna say, hey, yeah,

1550
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>my my grandfather was was was one of the Bigfoot knowers.

1551
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1552
01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.880
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, you know, But any ways, it's a good story.

1553
01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Even if you don't even if you don't believe that story,

1554
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's still a good story. It's hard to even

1555
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>believed that all those circumstances that was evolved in this

1556
01:22:32.319 --> 01:22:35.279
<v Speaker 1>situation that I can't believe it either. You have three

1557
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>big poots and you have three different three people on

1558
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>each side of the teams all the way from that

1559
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>point and then and then the point where my sister

1560
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and her boyfriend decided to go crawling out in the

1561
01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:51.479
<v Speaker 1>grass and then left move there, visualizing just two other

1562
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>figures sitting there. I just can't believe how that even happened.

1563
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even see them come up, and they got

1564
01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>themselves in that position, the bridge place, those two of

1565
01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:04.079
<v Speaker 1>the big person are sitting there. You know what I'm saying.

1566
01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Whenever I was a researcher and used to go out

1567
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>in the field looking for these things, we used to

1568
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about how nothing is perfect, and sometimes these things

1569
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>make mistakes, sometimes they slip up. And I believe that

1570
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 2>that night they slipped up there. There was no anticipation

1571
01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:32.479
<v Speaker 2>of six kids hiding out in the dark. There was

1572
01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't know that y'all were out there

1573
01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>playing guns or whatever and hiding along that fence line,

1574
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and they just slipped up.

1575
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, And the thinking was that they're probably on that

1576
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>same path, they probably been through that same path where

1577
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>they're headed, what they were walking through that through many

1578
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.319
<v Speaker 1>if they did many other times or whatever, The fact is,

1579
01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>we trapped them. Yeah, matter of fact, now you just

1580
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:57.479
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that, this is the first time I ever thought

1581
01:23:57.520 --> 01:23:59.640
<v Speaker 1>about that. I didn't think that we actually trapped them

1582
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in between. We were we're basically out each trapped them.

1583
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>We were on each side of their their pathways.

1584
01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, which other direction could they go?

1585
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they couldn't. Yeah, I think, of course, I didn't

1586
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>think about the aspect of us actually trapping them where

1587
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:19.159
<v Speaker 1>they were at, because because my team went around the

1588
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.479
<v Speaker 1>other side of the school anyways on the street and

1589
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>went and kme got way, so that if there's those

1590
01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>big foods were probably right there hiding right there on

1591
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the side of the of the of the school.

1592
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Anyways where there aren't any lights.

1593
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well there's no lights right there. So when we

1594
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>ran past them, probably in front of that screw and

1595
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>went around the other side, getting over to the fart

1596
01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>of the side of the through, we were actually in

1597
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>trapping them, being being my other team being on the

1598
01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>other side over at the apartments right in between, and

1599
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they had to walk in between us.

1600
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>If they knew you were there, before they saw you,

1601
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 2>or before you saw them. Rather, they probably thought, give

1602
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:02.439
<v Speaker 2>them some time, they'll leave out of the area or whatever.

1603
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:07.479
<v Speaker 2>It's nighttime. Kids aren't here at nighttime, and they thought

1604
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>you had left the area because you guys hunkered down

1605
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:12.479
<v Speaker 2>and hid and got quiet, you know.

1606
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>And even at the point when they when they when

1607
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>they were looking at me, when I was right there

1608
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>at the fence line, right there, they probably they even

1609
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>probably knew that I wasn't like a food grown man either,

1610
01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you know. Oh for sure, probably had since that we

1611
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>were just we're not like like kid's kids, you know,

1612
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>these young kids, but they probably had a feeling that

1613
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>we weren't not that we definitely weren't no a threat

1614
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:38.479
<v Speaker 1>because we're pretty They were pretty quiet anyways, for one pain,

1615
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>But I guarantee you that those two that were sitting

1616
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>there definitely knew where I was at, especially with me

1617
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 1>whispering back at him trying to tell them to be quiet,

1618
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1619
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:53.279
<v Speaker 2>But then you also have the the variable of your

1620
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>sister and her boyfriend hiding off in the grass, giggling

1621
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and cutting up with one another, and they may not

1622
01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.079
<v Speaker 2>have seen them, They may not have had their location.

1623
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>They might have been younger than the other ones. The

1624
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:11.399
<v Speaker 2>other ones might have the one that ran up on

1625
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>you might have been the one in charge though, I

1626
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>mean they could have been too juveniles with an adult.

1627
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where that's what kind of like where look

1628
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>at two? Is that that that was? I know that

1629
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:24.439
<v Speaker 1>was definitely the more the aggressor of the of the three,

1630
01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>even though it was so many aggression, It's just is

1631
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the one that was more in charge? It looked like

1632
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:30.199
<v Speaker 1>to me.

1633
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot to unpack with your encounter, a lot.

1634
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Blinya, even even to this day, although all through the

1635
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>years I've written my own journalist anyway, So that's why

1636
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember everybody's names and stuff. I remember the two

1637
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>brothers names. I remember my sister's boyfriend's name. But now

1638
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>my brother he can't remember any of their names. Because

1639
01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:00.479
<v Speaker 1>this this this situation didn't dramatize. It seemed like it

1640
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>did me, And so I kept a lot of this

1641
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>information that I moved because I was always thinking about

1642
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it throughout the years. And I've written journals myself without

1643
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:13.319
<v Speaker 1>showing you. I didn't sew anybody, even my brother. I

1644
01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just swooth I might need showing this and That's why

1645
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what I used to actually helped write my book

1646
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>as well as I just went through my journals and

1647
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff and then and and remembering, and then we were

1648
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.239
<v Speaker 1>reading that stuff, You're just remembering every detail you know

1649
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that's going on. And so that's where I'm at with

1650
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that too. You know, it's it's just a crazy deal.

1651
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>And if you have had your own encounter with Bigfoot

1652
01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and you'd like to share your story on the podcast,

1653
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>email me at Bigfoot Crossroad at gmail dot com. Check

1654
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>out the website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can find

1655
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need

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<v Speaker 2>all in one place. And until next time, remember there's

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<v Speaker 2>something in the woods.

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