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<v Speaker 2>I took. I took like three minutes to talk about chickens.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it is an all calls weekend. The number

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<v Speaker 2>three to three the numeral two ask Dean. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the phones, and I want to talk to Frank. Hey, Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you very much being for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have the flighting glass doors. There's the house

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<v Speaker 4>that's about twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Years old, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting moisture between the dull pained outside and the inside,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, siding glass litl pain. Is there on a

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<v Speaker 4>way to repair that or I need to be thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about replacing the sliding glass door.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a way to repair it. There absolutely is

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<v Speaker 2>a way to repair it. Now whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have to just evaluate the cost of repairing it

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<v Speaker 2>versus a new door. But typically typically it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be less expensive than replacing the sliding glass door. So

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that you like your sliding glass door and that

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<v Speaker 2>they're functioning well, and that the rollers and the track

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<v Speaker 2>and everything is just got you satisfied, and you've only

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, condensation building up inside the glass units,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be less expensive for you to fix

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<v Speaker 2>the glass problem. And here is how you fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, well you don't fix it. You don't fix it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't get fixed in the field per se,

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<v Speaker 2>because what you've got there any modern dual glazed window

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<v Speaker 2>and uh is those two panes of glass that you

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<v Speaker 2>have on your sliding door are a factory sealed unit.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's called an IGU, an insulated glass unit.

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<v Speaker 2>So both of those panes of glass are fused together

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<v Speaker 2>in a zero moisture environment in a factory, used together

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<v Speaker 2>with zero moisture inside of them. In fact, there's not air,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's not supposed to be air inside them. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a form of gas, usually ar gone gas inside

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<v Speaker 2>those units. And over time, and you know you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what thirty years or so, over time a unit

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<v Speaker 2>can fail and when you see condensation forming on the inside,

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<v Speaker 2>that means that the seal of that IGU has failed.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people misunderstand. They figure out, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really see where the stop biz. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>see where it is that that IGU got inserted into

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<v Speaker 2>the sliding glass door, and they just assume the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing's got to go. But no, a glass company, the

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<v Speaker 2>manufacture of the sliding glass unit can and will produce

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<v Speaker 2>a new IGU and they'll bring it out. It has

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<v Speaker 2>to be produced. You know, you can't just remove one

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<v Speaker 2>of the panes of glass, clean up the stuff, seal

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<v Speaker 2>it because in the field, there's always moisture in the

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<v Speaker 2>air out here, you know, no matter what happens, even

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<v Speaker 2>on the hottest of hot summer days, there's always a

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<v Speaker 2>degree of moisture in the air. You trap that inside

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<v Speaker 2>that glass, and then when the weather gets cold again,

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, that moisture will condensate and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see it dripping and forming on the inside of

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<v Speaker 2>the glass again. So it has to be produced in

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute zero moisture factory environment. But they can bring

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<v Speaker 2>out a new IGU and change it out for you,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's basically the moral the story.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, thank you very much for sharing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very well bet Frank. So yeah, you don't it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the end of the world. And if the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the frame and everything else on your sliding glass

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<v Speaker 2>door is functional, then just get a hold of manufacture

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<v Speaker 2>or a rep that deals with that brand of door

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<v Speaker 2>and you can have it changed out. Talk call your

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<v Speaker 2>local glass company. They've got they've got you know, inroads

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and referrals for you. But yeah, you just

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<v Speaker 2>got to order a new IGU, the insulated glass unit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We've got plenty of calls on the board,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to get to them. Camp Hie seen

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<v Speaker 2>sharp the house with her at your service. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us on the program this morning. We are talking

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<v Speaker 2>all things your home, your home. Yeah, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>your home. You didn't even know that. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>not legally required to call you and let you know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm talking about your home today.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you're here now. UH, all things home.

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<v Speaker 2>We are here alive every Saturday morning and every Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>morning to talk all things home, to turn ordinary houses

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<v Speaker 2>into extraordinary homes, whether that is uh DIY concerns, construction questions,

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<v Speaker 2>architectural and design issues, whatever the case may be. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you give me a call and UH and we put

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<v Speaker 2>our heads together and we handle it and like we

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<v Speaker 2>do on Saturday mornings, which are all call Saturdays. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to the phones, and UH,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk to well, let's talk to Eileen. Hey, Eileen,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 6>I love your program. I've listened to it since you've

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<v Speaker 6>first been on there, and I've learned so much and

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<v Speaker 6>I've sent I've told a million people to listen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, a million people, all because of Aileen,

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<v Speaker 2>leave your address and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Will find you at text.

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<v Speaker 6>They address. I'll have to give it to you in

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<v Speaker 6>a minute because I'm a new address and I have

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<v Speaker 6>a hard time remembering it. Catch me after I get up.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want you to read your address on

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<v Speaker 2>the air. I was just kidding. I was just kidding. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I was also kidding about saying you a check.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, my my grandson's my grandson's built a new house

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<v Speaker 6>about three years ago on about three acres, which is

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<v Speaker 6>fenced with chain length for the most part, with one

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<v Speaker 6>sliding wrought iron gate. But this is and we have

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<v Speaker 6>grown to six dogs, a couple of Great Pyrenees and

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of smaller dogs. And I forget what else,

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, rattle snakes are just a real problem. And

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<v Speaker 6>some of our neighbors losing dogs because of the rattlesnakes.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, they tell you not to kill them,

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<v Speaker 6>they need them. And but yet you have kids playing

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<v Speaker 6>there and dogs playing there. What do we do? Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>if we could get a road runner to stick around, possibly,

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<v Speaker 6>but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep a road runner in the yard as a constant monitor. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you've called the right place because I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a large open space, multi acre open space right here

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<v Speaker 2>in southern California, actually in a landfill. And by the

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<v Speaker 2>time I was twelve years old, I was responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>rattlesnakes intrusions into our.

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<v Speaker 3>Property up there.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time I was twelve, I had a extra

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<v Speaker 2>large jar of skippy peanut butter and empty peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>jar filled with the rattles of my victims. And it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't because snakes, right, No, no, no, just the rattles.

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<v Speaker 2>I collected the rattle and it wasn't being killing rattle snakes.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when they come they come in too

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<v Speaker 2>close to the house, you know, it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>good when they're in the yard. It's exactly so I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you this. Uh, snake fencing, Uh, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that expensive. It comes in rolls. Uh, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first line of defence. Okay, that chain link isn't stopping anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And and so snake fencing, and what I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's three acres, so there's a lot of fence.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I would do is a snake fencing is

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<v Speaker 2>just small nylon you know, vinyl mesh that is too

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<v Speaker 2>small for a snake to crawl through, and just tall

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<v Speaker 2>enough for a snake not to be able to climb

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<v Speaker 2>up and crawl over. And so this alone will radically

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<v Speaker 2>change the game as far as snakes in on the property,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're consistent and you do it in an unbroken manner.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also recommend that not that snakes dig. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't dig, okay. And when we talk about snake holes,

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<v Speaker 2>those are old golfer holes that other animals have dug

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<v Speaker 2>that snakes utilize to burrow in. But I recommend just

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<v Speaker 2>bury the bottom of the snakeproof fencing, you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>or four inches, so just a tiny little trench, just

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<v Speaker 2>to get it buried so that they can't nose underneath it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole idea. A snake, a rattlesnake, well, all

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<v Speaker 2>snakes for the most part, they're not excellent climbers, but

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<v Speaker 2>they usually can raise themselves up. Okay, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>have support to do this, but they can raise themselves

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<v Speaker 2>up roughly a third of their body length.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's say we've got a big old rattlesnake and

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<v Speaker 2>a big rattlesnake in southern California terms, or in Western

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<v Speaker 2>States terms is like, you know, a six foot rattlesnake. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big, fat, old rattlesnake that has survived well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think about that one third of their body length.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the biggest of rattlesnakes, we're talking twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>inches that they could actually raise their head up about

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<v Speaker 2>two feet up a supported structure and in theory get over.

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<v Speaker 2>So a three foot roll, three foot tall roll of

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<v Speaker 2>snake fencing that you roll along the inside or the

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the chainling fence will pretty much shut down

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest of beasts and keep them out of the yard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The second thing, just for safe measure, is that there

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<v Speaker 2>actually is several companies produce granular repellents that are made

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<v Speaker 2>from certain essential oils and things that snakes just do

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<v Speaker 2>not like. And you know, not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>think that that would be something that's effective, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Snakes are all about They don't have that great of Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>snakes are all about odor sensing. Their tongue is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>their nose. When they stick their tongues out, they are

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<v Speaker 2>are super super odor sensitive creatures. That's how they track.

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<v Speaker 2>They literally will track and find their prey based on sampling,

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<v Speaker 2>chemical sampling as they go. It's not because that they've

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<v Speaker 2>got egalized they don't. They really don't. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of companies everybody from I think Ortho to Well.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go online and just put in snake repellent granules,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find them. They're not expensive, and those can be

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<v Speaker 2>distributed kind of shaken out. They're safe for the kids

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<v Speaker 2>and the dogs. Those can be shaked and established around

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<v Speaker 2>the perimeter of that fence as well. So those two

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<v Speaker 2>things combined, I think you'll see a marked reduction in

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<v Speaker 2>down snake. I'm not saying a snake can't get through

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<v Speaker 2>like under the gate, but in three acres worth of fencing,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's just one sliding gait, you're radically reducing the

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<v Speaker 2>chances of a rattlesnake getting into the yard.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay. In addition, we've had dogs snakeproofs in the past,

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<v Speaker 6>which worked pretty well. I cannot find a snake doing

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<v Speaker 6>that recently. I've tried to. You know, of course the

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<v Speaker 6>internet you can find anything, but I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 6>to find anybody just snake poof the dogs again, because

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of these are proposits that haven't gone through

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<v Speaker 6>that experience before.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when Eileen is talking everybody about snakeproofing a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about training a dog so that it understands not

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<v Speaker 2>to attack a snake, but to be worn and to

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<v Speaker 2>stand back and not to put itself in that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of danger. I Leen, the best bet there is call

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<v Speaker 2>your vet, call your local veterinarian, because they have they

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<v Speaker 2>have references for that kind of stuff. I know our

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<v Speaker 2>vets in our area will refer you out to services

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<v Speaker 2>that help prep dogs for rattlesnakes as well. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like around here around where I live in eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Ventor County. Uh, It's a thing and there are there

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<v Speaker 2>are classes and things being taught all the time because

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<v Speaker 2>we've got so much open space where people hike during

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<v Speaker 2>the spring and the summer, and the snakes are out

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<v Speaker 2>right now. They're not out in full force yet because

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<v Speaker 2>the weather's been wonky, but with this recent heat spell,

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<v Speaker 2>they're waking up, they're coming out and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be around, so everybody needs to be aware. I lean

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the call. Just know you can. You can

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<v Speaker 2>snake proof of yard for the most part if you

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<v Speaker 2>do it right. You've got to be consistent. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like they're trying to get into the yard, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with full force and intent. It's just they're just wandering along,

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<v Speaker 2>picking up scents as they go and h and they

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<v Speaker 2>end up in the yard. And don't I know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had to deal with I've had to dispatch too many

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<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime and they are terrifying. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>scary because you know it's a venomous snake. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but it can be done. Good luck, Eileen. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that helps along the way. All right, y'all, more of

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, your home, Dean Sharp the House Whisper.

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<v Speaker 2>That is me. It is Saturday morning, and as is

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<v Speaker 2>our custom, it is an all calls Saturday morning. We're

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<v Speaker 2>taking calls answering questions about your home. Yeah, everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>calling in and asking questions about your home. What's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with you? No, I mean you can call in

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<v Speaker 2>and ask questions about your home. How's that sound? That's better?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to the phones. Let's see here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to Marsha. Hey, Marsha, welcome home, Good good.

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<v Speaker 7>Morning, Dean. I have a forty year old home and

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<v Speaker 7>I need a recommendation for a company that does.

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<v Speaker 6>Will repair the wheep screed at the base of the walls,

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<v Speaker 6>of the outside walls.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 7>We're all breaking down. They're all all breaking down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, well that's this is an easy one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a stucco company, okay. Weep screed is a is a flashing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a flashing that goes properly at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>a stucco wall. And so it is the stucco company.

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<v Speaker 2>The stucco guys that come in and install it. They

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<v Speaker 2>paper it in when they're putting on the the building

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<v Speaker 2>paper on the side of the house and they're putting

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<v Speaker 2>on their stucco laugh wiring, and then they transition all

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<v Speaker 2>of that down and overlap it onto a bottom flashing,

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<v Speaker 2>that triangular flashing with the holes in the bottom It's

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<v Speaker 2>called a weep screed for two reasons. One, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>screed in that it sticks out just far enough for

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<v Speaker 2>them to run their trowels against it to create just

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<v Speaker 2>a nice, even layer of stucco at the bottom. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we would call a screed. It's a guide and

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<v Speaker 2>it weeps because on the bottom, where you can't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got holes, and those holes allow moisture that build

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<v Speaker 2>up inside the stucco wall to trickle down and escape

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<v Speaker 2>instead of popping the finish of your stucco out and

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<v Speaker 2>screwing it all up.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are times when weep screen it will eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Fail, and you know, sometimes they rust out if they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't the best quality to begin with and so on.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so the weep screed is critically important. I

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<v Speaker 2>take calls all the time from people who are like,

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<v Speaker 2>my stucco is failing on my house, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. They're like, well, it's popping off, perating,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, all right, does the stucco run all

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<v Speaker 2>the way down into the soil just right into They're

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<v Speaker 2>like yep, And I'm like, ah see, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>house that was done before we figured out we got

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<v Speaker 2>to put weep screed at the bottom of the stucco

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<v Speaker 2>and hold the bottom of the stucco line up above

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<v Speaker 2>the soil, because concrete collects moisture, and no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>well you've sealed and painted your house, moisture still finds

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<v Speaker 2>its way into the concrete that is the stucco. That's normal,

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<v Speaker 2>it's natural, but we got to give it a place

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<v Speaker 2>to get out. And that's what the weep screed. It weeps.

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<v Speaker 2>It weeps out moisture at the bottom. So the moral

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<v Speaker 2>of the story, Marsha is it is a stucco company

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<v Speaker 2>that does weep screed, not roofers, not general contractors. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you start looking for a reputable stucco company and

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<v Speaker 2>get two or three in your area, they can come

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<v Speaker 2>out and if the weep screed is failing, what they'll

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<v Speaker 2>typically do is they'll cut about four to six inches

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<v Speaker 2>up on the wall along the stucco line and remove

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<v Speaker 2>that stucco, bang it out, and then they can have

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<v Speaker 2>access to that weep screen flashing where they can pull

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<v Speaker 2>it out, slide a new flashing underneath the existing paper,

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<v Speaker 2>get it all papered in really nicely and sealed and

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<v Speaker 2>then they will stucco that bottom edge for you and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, fetter out to finish up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to cause you know, some damage to

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<v Speaker 2>the stucco, but it's well worth doing if the weep

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<v Speaker 2>screed is failing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I can sure see that. Thank you so much, Deean.

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<v Speaker 6>This is great.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you don't have a company, you would recommend

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<v Speaker 7>a stucco company.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I trust your judgment, I know, but

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<v Speaker 3>here's the problem. Where are you at, by the way.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in Englewood, California.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>See that's the problem, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Contracting is such a local, local, uh you know deal,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for small homes, and so where I live and

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<v Speaker 2>where we have some of our custom designs built within

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, certain local radio of our home out

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<v Speaker 2>here in eastern Ventura County. I could give references anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>else in southern California and everywhere this show reaches. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's impossible to keep up with references for good companies.

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<v Speaker 2>But you look for local Englewood stucco companies and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find them and vet them, you know, make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they have got all their ducks in a row, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've got their license clean, and bonds and insurance to

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<v Speaker 2>all of that good stuff, and invite them out and

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<v Speaker 2>take two or three bids and you should be good

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could recommend the amazing contractors that are

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<v Speaker 2>out there to everybody wherever you live. But that, if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it for a second, that that would

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<v Speaker 2>be just that would be a monumental task. We'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to set up an entire company just to monitor the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of contractors and to make sure that they keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing quality work, just to give those referrals. So unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't give referrals out usually unless it's a company

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<v Speaker 2>like one of our partners here on the show, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the sponsors of the show that cover an entire

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<v Speaker 2>wide area, and we keep our eyes on them. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing it right, all right. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm growling at contractors. I guess I should be as

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<v Speaker 2>a general rule, I am one more of your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>When we return your home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper,

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<v Speaker 2>can if I Dean Sharp the House Whisper, Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Conway is obsessed with traffic. He is obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>it and car chases which cause traffic issues as well.

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<v Speaker 2>See it's all traffic. It's all traffic all the time

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<v Speaker 2>with Conway.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that guy. I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, did you know that every Thursday evening

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<v Speaker 2>I have a standing appointment with Tim. He and I

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<v Speaker 2>start talking about all things. Well, we talk about everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but six six twenty every Thursday evening until about six

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<v Speaker 2>fifty or so, I'm on with Tim and we're just

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<v Speaker 2>yacking it up, having a great time. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to miss it. AnyWho. It's an all calls Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are wrapping up the end of another two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I've still got some calls on the board, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to John. Hey, John, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey Dean, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I am well, sir. How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 5>I have floor pops that are starting to drive me crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Where original owners? The home is about twenty one years old.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the second floor. I was just in my son's room,

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<v Speaker 5>but now I'm for getting some of the master and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I saw the construction of it. It's got

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<v Speaker 5>those what do you call them? The engineered would I

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<v Speaker 5>beam things?

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<v Speaker 5>Huh? And uh, you know, I did some looking, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I just is it something that can be fixed?

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<v Speaker 5>Or am I just chasing a you know, to playing

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<v Speaker 5>whack the mole with the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so describe to me what you mean by floor pops.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only asking because a lot of people have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different, you know, definitions of what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you experiencing up there on the second floor.

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<v Speaker 5>When you walk on just certain areas, you will hear

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<v Speaker 5>a pop, not a creek, a pop. And the it's

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<v Speaker 5>not terrible upstairs, but downstairs it's a lot louder. So

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<v Speaker 5>if you're downstairs and someone's walking around up there, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's irritating.

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<v Speaker 2>And what have you guys? What have guys tried to

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<v Speaker 2>do about it thus far?

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<v Speaker 5>I researched it, and it's like, I better call the

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<v Speaker 5>before I do the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, so here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very likely not the joste, especially if it's

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<v Speaker 2>eye beam shaped. Trust joices. They're very stable, they're very secure,

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<v Speaker 2>they're very flat. They're actually designed to help eliminate this.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there is no one particular piece of

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<v Speaker 2>material that goes into a home that all by itself

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<v Speaker 2>solves a problem. It has to be installed properly, and

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt that the floor joists are improperly installed. But

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<v Speaker 2>the sheathing the plywood on top of those floor joys

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<v Speaker 2>should have been nailed down and glued to the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the floor joist everywhere, and if they were, then

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't be experiencing that kind of noise. There seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be This sounds to me like there is buckling happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's not necessarily a structural issue as much

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<v Speaker 2>as it is, you know, an audible esthetic issue. The

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<v Speaker 2>seams of the plywood. It may be riding up and

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<v Speaker 2>down on nails. It may have been misnailed. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>the nails went in and they missed the joist altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody might have left the glue off in some areas.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when it comes to settling that down, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you are going to have to chase it a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, probably realistically. But here's the best thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can do, and that is there are now there are

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<v Speaker 2>some floor fix it kits that include injecting adhesive down

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the plywood in order to get a little adhesive

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<v Speaker 2>going on that you know, when it comes to hardwood floors,

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<v Speaker 2>I recommend that a little bit more than just regular

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<v Speaker 2>plywood situations sheathing situations with sheathing. I like to just

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<v Speaker 2>trace down the nature of the pop kind it, find

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<v Speaker 2>it where you know, and and yeah, it's not a squeak,

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<v Speaker 2>but it still could be the same kind of issue.

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<v Speaker 2>And we just got to start with the minimum. And

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<v Speaker 2>the minimum is a good wood screw and a screw

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<v Speaker 2>gun and find in a in a stud finder, because

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to be looking for, you know, pull

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<v Speaker 2>the carpet up or pull up the flooring that's there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to look underneath. You want to find the

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<v Speaker 2>lines of the nails and or the screws that are

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. I'm guessing they did not screw down

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<v Speaker 2>that floor because it wouldn't be moving that way if

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<v Speaker 2>they had, so you want to look for those.

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<v Speaker 5>I seem they recall there there were screws, but it

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<v Speaker 5>was twenty one years ago. But I seem to recall

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<v Speaker 5>they kind of had the head on them with like

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<v Speaker 5>a square inset.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, might have been, might have been, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. We just got to track it down. So

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<v Speaker 2>track down the problem area and and add some screws

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<v Speaker 2>to it. That's the cool thing is you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can add some screws to it to secure that. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you may put shit ten feet away when you do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a systemic problem, you may have resolved it

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<v Speaker 2>there and you're like, oh great, great, Now now over

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<v Speaker 2>here it's squeaky uh. If you keep chasing it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you keep dedicated to it, you will eventually probably trap

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<v Speaker 2>the creature and and quiet it down. That's that's been

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<v Speaker 2>my experience over the years. But it may take a

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<v Speaker 2>little doing as you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so pulling up the carpet and pad for sure, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you want to get a line on.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to find out where the floor joists are

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<v Speaker 2>because screws just out in the middle of nowhere aren't

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<v Speaker 2>doing anybody any So you want to see where the

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<v Speaker 2>existing floor. You might even find snap lines, old chalk

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<v Speaker 2>lines where they snap them out to try and hit

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<v Speaker 2>the floor joist. And then you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>as you screw that screw in, you'll feel it if

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<v Speaker 2>you're hitting into If it's digging into wood all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through, then you've hit the top of the joist.

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<v Speaker 2>If the screw starts off uh slow, but then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden just speeds in through. Then you've missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I uh and then just exploring along.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just just screw that sucker down. Add three

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<v Speaker 2>or four in any area that it's uh you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that it's causing you a problem, and then uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I wish I could tell you

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<v Speaker 2>something better, but then you're just gonna have to stand

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<v Speaker 2>back and wait.

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<v Speaker 5>So so two questions should do I need to remove

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<v Speaker 5>all the furniture from the room. And the other question

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<v Speaker 5>is how long? So let's say, Okay, I find it,

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<v Speaker 5>I screw them in, and now I've got to wait

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<v Speaker 5>to see if it moves. Is that like within the

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<v Speaker 5>same day or do I need to kind of it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it'll over Yeah, likely if it's gonna shift, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>likely shift over you know, a week or so uh

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<v Speaker 2>in time. So don't don't move anything unnecessarily. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling a pop. Just pull the carpet back. Just stay

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<v Speaker 2>very very isolated, very surgical in your approach. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't empty out rooms, pull out the carpet. I would

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<v Speaker 2>just approach the area of the pop, expose it put

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of three screws down to secure it. See

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<v Speaker 2>if it sounds differently, then cover it back up, cross

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<v Speaker 2>your fingers, and hope that it doesn't move to another area,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, what you're doing is you're reapplying pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and you're putting the tension somewhere else. But that may

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<v Speaker 2>be the only problem. So it may not move at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and you may just resolve it, but you may have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait. So just be sensitive to it. And as

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<v Speaker 2>you start to encounter them, knock those down.

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<v Speaker 3>You will.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you, John, you will eventually catch up with

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<v Speaker 2>it all and solve whatever is deficient up there. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just going to be it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little project for a while, very likely, John, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>the call. We are literally right up against eight o'clock here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for our show this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>For anybody who called who did not get through, give

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<v Speaker 2>me a call tomorrow. Will put you, will fast track

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<v Speaker 2>you to the front of the line tomorrow's show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all about color color theory. I know how much you

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<v Speaker 2>wrestle with it, so don't miss it nine to noon tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Until then, get out into this beautiful spring day and

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<v Speaker 2>get busy building yourself a beautiful life, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow.

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