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Speaker 1: Neil from Americans for Prospered in the fifty five KRECY
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Speaker 1: of Ohio. Afpaction dot Com. I think is the website
Speaker 1: we're going to recommend. Donovan will tell us one way
Speaker 1: or another, the Donovan welcome back to talk about the
Speaker 1: Rains Act.
Speaker 4: Brian, happy to be here with you.
Speaker 2: So is this a state act?
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about Ohio Rains Act because I
Speaker 1: know Congress from Massy's talking about the Rains Act.
Speaker 2: Least I believe it was Massy. On a federal level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is legislation that really there's no hyperbole here
Speaker 4: at sweeping the nation. States across all fifty states are
Speaker 4: introducing variations of this. It did originate and it's still
Speaker 4: active legislation in Congress. We need to get it done, Yes,
Speaker 4: send it to the President's desk. But you know, on
Speaker 4: the federal level, we got we got to clear out
Speaker 4: the economic the regulatory sludge and our economic engine. But
Speaker 4: we've got the same problems here in the states. And
Speaker 4: that's what the Rains Act House Bill eleven would do
Speaker 4: here in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Okay, and let's acknowledge there has to be a state
Speaker 1: ranks independent from hopefully we get the Federal Rains Act,
Speaker 1: because there are state regulatory entities that wouldn't be impacted
Speaker 1: by a Federal Rains Act.
Speaker 4: Correct. Correct, it's just a few years ago here in Ohio.
Speaker 4: Just to put in a perspective, because we're a red state,
Speaker 4: right we vote for Trump consistently, we've got to Republican
Speaker 4: senators with Republican super majority in Columbus or not. Well,
Speaker 4: I'll show to talk about that at the time the
Speaker 4: believe it or not. Just a few short years ago,
Speaker 4: the Mercadis Center put out a report on the regulatory burden,
Speaker 4: the index and inventory all of the regulations in all
Speaker 4: the states here and Ohio. Guess where we ranked, Brian,
Speaker 4: guess where we ranked.
Speaker 1: I'm a little afraid to guess. Probably somewhere near the bottom.
Speaker 4: Somewhere near the bottom. The only states worse than us
Speaker 4: were New York, California, and Illinois. New York, California, Illinois, Ohio,
Speaker 4: Oh my, or among the worst. So we you know,
Speaker 4: if you don't pay attention to these things, this stuff
Speaker 4: can get real bad, real quick. Even when you've got
Speaker 4: you know, conservatives are so called conservatives mining the Henhouse
Speaker 4: and Rain's Act. It puts a puts a restrainer, reins
Speaker 4: in those executive executive overreach that can cause these kinds
Speaker 4: of things to happen and get us pretty close to
Speaker 4: California and things we don't want to be close to them.
Speaker 1: In no, not at all, And it just shocks my
Speaker 1: mind that we are right behind those unbelievably left wing states.
Speaker 1: Now to people right now, Donovan and Neil for Americans
Speaker 1: for a Prosperity scratching the head going, you're talking about
Speaker 1: Rains Act. You haven't explained what it's going to do
Speaker 1: for us, which we will dive into after these brief words.
Speaker 2: So hang in there.
Speaker 1: Donovan will be right back to give us some details
Speaker 1: on what the Rains Act will accomplish here in Ohio.
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Speaker 1: Time to see with Donald and Neil for Americans for
Speaker 1: Prosperity on something that could be profound in terms of
Speaker 1: the direction of government control over our lives and the
Speaker 1: regulatory nightmare that is behind the scenes unelected officials creating
Speaker 1: basically laws behind the scenes predicated on loosely written legislation
Speaker 1: that gets passed and they chuck the legislation over to
Speaker 1: the regulatory agencies to start churning out regulations, many of
Speaker 1: which have a profound financial impact on society. That's where
Speaker 1: the Rains Act comes in. Donovan and Neil regulations from
Speaker 1: the executive in need of scrutiny. Long form version of
Speaker 1: Rains Act. What does this do for us? Or what
Speaker 1: will this do for us in the state of Ohio
Speaker 1: for successful in getting it passed?
Speaker 4: Yeah, great question? And what what this does? So there's
Speaker 4: a lot of different ways you can do reg reform, right,
Speaker 4: you can cut the red tape. You could say you
Speaker 4: can't add more red tape. But you know, even when
Speaker 4: you say that, there's still the calls or the outcry
Speaker 4: for some form of regulation. Right, the bureaucrats are going
Speaker 4: to do what they do best, the bureaucrats. And what
Speaker 4: the Rains Act does is, at a very simple level,
Speaker 4: what it does is two things. One, it requires legislative approval,
Speaker 4: so no more long gone would be the days of
Speaker 4: a of an executive agency overreaching its authority has on
Speaker 4: Mosk and Donald Trump have called it. Right, this this
Speaker 4: fourth unconstitutional arm of government that's erupted. The legislature would
Speaker 4: have authority over approving any major rules that would come
Speaker 4: out of an executive agency. But then what I think
Speaker 4: is most important in the greatest feature of this after
Speaker 4: legislative authority, is it would require the bureaucrats to put
Speaker 4: together an economic impact. So if we're going to put
Speaker 4: a drive on the economy that would come out of
Speaker 4: a rule or regulation purportedly for a public safety purpose, Right,
Speaker 4: that's why they claim to create these rules, is for
Speaker 4: public safety, we're going to have to They're going to
Speaker 4: have to indicate what the economic impact of those rules
Speaker 4: would be. Ah, it's like an environmental or standing like an.
Speaker 1: Environmental assessment, right, I mean sometimes you have the environmental
Speaker 1: assessment before any project goes through to make sure it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be harmful to some fish or moth or
Speaker 1: bat or something. In this particular case, they have to
Speaker 1: do an economic analysis to find out how how much
Speaker 1: money it's going to cost the population for the regulations
Speaker 1: that are being rolled out.
Speaker 4: Instead of just worrying about the moths, the baps, and
Speaker 4: the worms, we're gonna actually worry about humans and the
Speaker 4: economic impact rules may have on the livelihoods of humans
Speaker 4: living here in the United States.
Speaker 2: What a concept? What is Okay?
Speaker 1: Now there has to be a colon Okay, So let's use,
Speaker 1: for example, some like the EPA regulating and according to
Speaker 1: the legislation that was passed out of Congress regulating navigable waters,
Speaker 1: which then the regulatory body then decides, is a tablespoon
Speaker 1: of water on your private property that has a massive
Speaker 1: economic impact, and of course that would have to be
Speaker 1: reviewed for its economic impact, and then under a rainzac concept,
Speaker 1: if it's over a certain amount, then the actual legislative
Speaker 1: branch Congress would have to pass approval of that specific
Speaker 1: tablespoon of water regulation.
Speaker 4: Correct, Because the idea is going back to the legislature
Speaker 4: on these most egregious rules and saying, was this your
Speaker 4: intent when you sent up this authority? Exactly? And it is,
Speaker 4: they can approve it. And if they say, whoa, we
Speaker 4: did not foresee somebody being this creative and finding ways
Speaker 4: to control people's lives, No, you cannot do that. That's
Speaker 4: what the legislature would be able to do.
Speaker 1: Now, all right, this legislative Economic Analysis unit, this this
Speaker 1: panel that will look into the economic impact and do
Speaker 1: this economic analysis? What is the monetary cutoff? What what
Speaker 1: allows that like over x amount? Then you've got to
Speaker 1: get legislative approval. What is the amount.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it varies by different state, you know, state to state.
Speaker 4: You know, for instance, in Wisconsin, it's any rule over
Speaker 4: ten million. Here in Ohio, the current proposal would say
Speaker 4: anything over a million dollars in economic impact, Wow, it
Speaker 4: has to be evaluated. And what you see by virtue
Speaker 4: of that might say, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: It doesn't what No, I mean that it's a lower
Speaker 1: bar than the ten million dollars from some other state.
Speaker 1: I mean, I say a million that that that's it's
Speaker 1: easy to reach a million dollars much anything these days.
Speaker 4: Donovan. Sure, Well, what we want to balance in this
Speaker 4: public policy is making sure that the most egregious rules
Speaker 4: get reviewed and this doesn't become a rubber stamp process.
Speaker 4: Here in Ohio, we already have what's called j CAR.
Speaker 4: It's the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review. They they
Speaker 4: see a lot of these any rule that gets implemented
Speaker 4: here in the state of Ohio or desire to be implemented,
Speaker 4: j CAR reviews it. So there's already a stopgap. What
Speaker 4: Rains would do is add that economic factor and force
Speaker 4: it to go to not just the smaller committee of
Speaker 4: j CAR, which does a great job, but the full
Speaker 4: legislative body. You can imagine it's easy to maybe get
Speaker 4: a few folks to agree to something. It's a lot
Speaker 4: harder to get one hundred and thirty two individuals degree
Speaker 4: on something exactly. That's a lot more eyes, that's a
Speaker 4: lot more people. And as Representative Ron Ferguson and Brian
Speaker 4: Lorenz pointed out in the committee testimony early this week,
Speaker 4: j CAR doesn't represent all of Ohio. It's the members
Speaker 4: you know who are on that committee. Those legislature at
Speaker 4: large represents all of Ohio, and so folks in southwest
Speaker 4: Ohio they have different thoughts about a particular rule. In
Speaker 4: folks in northeast Ohio, we want more input rather than
Speaker 4: last when it comes to a million dollars of the
Speaker 4: economic drag being considered here in the state.
Speaker 1: Donald, I hate to put you on the spot, but
Speaker 1: I see that this act as it's written for the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, and I'm all in favor of this.
Speaker 1: It empowers courts to review whether agency rules have been
Speaker 1: authorized by the legislature and determine whether the rule has
Speaker 1: been classified correctly as a major rule requiring legislative approval.
Speaker 1: So some rule gets passed and it's over some certain
Speaker 1: threshold of money here a million dollars, and if they
Speaker 1: don't act and they don't specifically approve it, the courts
Speaker 1: can come in and say, hey, you've got to specifically
Speaker 1: approve this or the rule does not apply. Who has
Speaker 1: standing to bring that action in court?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think what you would these were crafted in
Speaker 4: different ways in different states, right. I think the way
Speaker 4: we would want to look at it would be somebody
Speaker 4: who is going to be, you know, a party that's impacted, right,
Speaker 4: a manufacturer in the state of Ohio, to be able
Speaker 4: to say, to be able to bring that and all
Speaker 4: that is, I think as well, is really just rebalancing
Speaker 4: what's broken right now, where the bureaucrats, this fourth unelected
Speaker 4: bureauc branch of government has taken control and taken taking
Speaker 4: things hostage. It should be the you know, legislature creates
Speaker 4: the laws, the executive executes them, and the judiciary reviews
Speaker 4: them for constitutionality. This would allow the legislature to have
Speaker 4: a little re reign in the executive and retain some
Speaker 4: of its original authority of saying, hey, no, you're going
Speaker 4: too far, mister and missus governor. We need to we
Speaker 4: need to reign in here.
Speaker 1: They actually have to do their job is an interesting concept.
Speaker 1: Donald O'Neil, I can only pray that this gets an
Speaker 1: acted in the state of Ohio. What do we the
Speaker 1: listeners of What can I do specifically to push this forward?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need folks to go to Buckeye Blueprint dot com.
Speaker 4: Buckeye Blueprint dot com. That's our website for Boulder Better
Speaker 4: Buckeye State or post an action alerts there almost every
Speaker 4: week now that the legislature's in session here in Ohio
Speaker 4: and go there. If you want to go to the
Speaker 4: newsroom section you can read more about it, but ultimately
Speaker 4: reach out to your state representative and encourage them to
Speaker 4: support HB eleven, Ohio's.
Speaker 1: Rains Act HB eleven. Please Buckeye Blueprint dot com. I
Speaker 1: will say my prayers in favor of this one. Donovan
Speaker 1: and Neil, Thank you for bringing it to my listeners
Speaker 1: and my attention. I appreciate all the work that you
Speaker 1: and Americans for Prosperity to do each and every day,
Speaker 1: and I again will strongly encourage my listeners to get
Speaker 1: in touch and get active, and I mean you make
Speaker 1: it so easy for them to do that. Take care Donovaniel.
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