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Speaker 1: I'm joined tonight again by a very special guest. You
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Probablys so glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Now. Look, last time we talked, you were the term
Speaker 1: is green. I guess, like so new at something. It's
Speaker 1: a stupid term. I don't even understand it. You were
Speaker 1: so new at this last time, you were like firecracker,
Speaker 1: you were like, oh my god, you know you're you're
Speaker 1: with somebody, and you were kind of getting into what
Speaker 1: do you call it? The hot wifing lifestyle? What do
Speaker 1: you refer to it all?
Speaker 2: Really so then it kind of goes into the name
Speaker 2: with the stag vixen relationship that we have. So technically, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm a form of hot wife ethical non monogamy. That's
Speaker 2: best way I can describe it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And last time we talked you, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you were scheduling your first outside of marriage
Speaker 1: quote unquote partner, or if you had already had it. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I should have went back and listened. That would have
Speaker 1: been responsible of me. I didn't. I just looked at
Speaker 1: your pictures instead.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, it's a good thing I did.
Speaker 1: You did? Okay? Where were you?
Speaker 2: Because I was?
Speaker 1: I was?
Speaker 2: I knew you might ask these questions, be.
Speaker 1: Prepared for the same jokes coming flying at you as
Speaker 1: last time. Just so you know, I'm a hack with
Speaker 1: no actual talent.
Speaker 2: I would want nothing less.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So where were we last time?
Speaker 2: I believe if I remember right, I was just about
Speaker 2: to start my first.
Speaker 1: Meet, okay, And is that what you refer to it
Speaker 1: as a meat?
Speaker 2: I mean, at that time, that's what I did. Is
Speaker 2: I called it a meat. Now it's different because I
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a different dynamic going on, sure,
Speaker 2: and different things happening by the time. That's what I
Speaker 2: called it. I mean buck session.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a little more blunt, for sure.
Speaker 1: Definitely I like it, though, I enjoy it. Let me so,
Speaker 1: let me ask if you can take your mind back
Speaker 1: to that first meet going into that what kind of
Speaker 1: emotions were you feeling. Was it excite? Was it purely excitement?
Speaker 1: Was it purely fear? And you just kind of overcame it, Like,
Speaker 1: talk me through how you were feeling, if you can
Speaker 1: put yourself back in that space.
Speaker 2: So I actually we talk about this. My husband and
Speaker 2: I still talk about this. I wouldn't say regularly, but
Speaker 2: it still comes up because we laugh about it because
Speaker 2: of the way that my approach is way different now.
Speaker 2: But I was very just like nervous, Like there was
Speaker 2: nothing more than just like nervous. I mean, it was
Speaker 2: a very strange mix of horny and nervous, which I
Speaker 2: had never experienced before. Like I remember like driving to
Speaker 2: go meet this guy. I was like a white knuckling
Speaker 2: fucking the wheel. I was like, okay, I can do this, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can do this. But then like it was like
Speaker 2: as soon as I stepped into the room, like it
Speaker 2: was gone, Like it just kind of like washed away,
Speaker 2: and it helped. I was very specific with that partner
Speaker 2: and thinking out of that partner. Fun fact, he actually
Speaker 2: drove four hours to come meet me. Wow, out of state.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. And he didn't fly though. I would think
Speaker 1: a guy wanting to meet you would want to be
Speaker 1: in first class so it can really keep himself prepped
Speaker 1: up real good. You know.
Speaker 2: It was very last minute, Like literally we matched on tender.
Speaker 2: We talked for two days and he was and I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I fuck with you and
Speaker 2: he was like I really like you. And I was
Speaker 2: like okay. I was like, so when do you want
Speaker 2: to meet He was like, I don't have to work tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And I was like, do you want to come up?
Speaker 2: And he was like sure, and then he was like,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's four hours. I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. I should remember like checking in with him,
Speaker 2: like I'm like, are you okay? Are you good? And
Speaker 2: he like when he got back to like where he was,
Speaker 2: probably he was like worth it. He said I would
Speaker 2: do it again. In fact, he did message me again.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we got a lot to walk through there, right.
Speaker 1: Did you have any fear he wasn't going to show up?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, because the guy I actually did have a
Speaker 2: guy before him that didn't show up. He got a
Speaker 2: little he was new to the non monogament lifestyle, and
Speaker 2: he got and then he got a little nervous and
Speaker 2: he like backed out last minute, and then he tried
Speaker 2: to add me on one of my social media's I
Speaker 2: don't remember which one. Like two months later, you try
Speaker 2: to apologize and was like, no, fuck you?
Speaker 1: Uh did Did the guy that you eventually did meet
Speaker 1: up with did he give you any fear? Like did
Speaker 1: he relay anything to you? Like I'm just glad you're
Speaker 1: not too Nigeria people that were gonna hit me in
Speaker 1: the head with a crowbar and steal my money? Like
Speaker 1: did he you know, like did he think oh I
Speaker 1: thought this was a scam too, And then I walk
Speaker 1: in and you're fucking.
Speaker 2: Here yeah, it was pretty much what it was. He
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, I was honestly only half believing,
Speaker 2: and he was like, we did. We did call though,
Speaker 2: to be fair, like we called just for a few
Speaker 2: minutes to check out each other. He wasn't a huge
Speaker 2: dam of calling, and so we at least did not
Speaker 2: each other. Was real, but it was just kind of
Speaker 2: like when he got there, he was like, okay, I'm here.
Speaker 1: All right, So you go into that room right now,
Speaker 1: your this your situation at the time wasn't like your
Speaker 1: husband would watch or be involved or anything, right, He
Speaker 1: was just purely recounting after the fact. Yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: you go into that room with this guy. Was it
Speaker 1: a hotel, motel something like that?
Speaker 2: It was a hotel? Yeah, okay, all.
Speaker 1: Right, what's the first move? Is it? Like I assume
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I assume it's hard to like
Speaker 1: build physical chemistry quickly or maybe I'm wrong, set me straight.
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on you know, how I'm connecting,
Speaker 2: you know, with the person then in the room, But
Speaker 2: which I learned eventually. I really honestly just got lucky
Speaker 2: with that guy. I was thinking, like I just knew
Speaker 2: what I just knew what I wanted and I got it.
Speaker 2: I guess he was very like one of the things
Speaker 2: that I've always been funny about is like We're going
Speaker 2: to sit down and talk for a minute, like just
Speaker 2: talk like boundaries, like where we move are mentally at
Speaker 2: the moment, like what we are and aren't into, like
Speaker 2: just recapping and everything we've already probably talked over. And
Speaker 2: so I think that helped with it, and like it
Speaker 2: was just we both agreed, like start off with light
Speaker 2: for play, not think crazy. He has to start just
Speaker 2: turned out of hes hot as buck and I have
Speaker 2: select brain when I get horny sometimes and select brain worked.
Speaker 1: Okay, what were the parameters and the rules at the
Speaker 1: time in terms of what you you and your husband
Speaker 1: agreed upon, like you don't want to do this, We're
Speaker 1: not doing this, but this is acceptable, and you know
Speaker 1: everything else what with the lines.
Speaker 2: So everything was basically everything was recorded, Like there wasn't
Speaker 2: any scene that was not recorded. I just had to
Speaker 2: be honest with my husband about you know what I
Speaker 2: thought of it afterwards, Uh, everything was okay, but handholding,
Speaker 2: and that was both him and I agreed on. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm really there's just a different type
Speaker 2: of intimate favor of handholding for me, probably the little
Speaker 2: pism in me.
Speaker 1: It's okay, fine, So I was ripping you and making
Speaker 1: fun of you for the handholding thing. But can I
Speaker 1: tell you my first question? Were you allowed to kiss?
Speaker 1: Like I'm going I'm right back in the second grade
Speaker 1: with you where it's like, oh you held his hand, gross?
Speaker 1: But were you allowed to kiss or was that something
Speaker 1: off the table too?
Speaker 2: Yes? I was. I was, well, it was like left
Speaker 2: up to me. It was just kind of like a
Speaker 2: way you're comfortable or not? And I was like, I'll
Speaker 2: give it a try. I quickly stopped enjoying gissing. There
Speaker 2: are people that I was meeting up with because half
Speaker 2: of them couldn't kiss right, and I hated it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so do you lay that law out or do
Speaker 1: you try it and then see and then if it
Speaker 1: sucks you go, yeah, we're good with that. We're fine.
Speaker 2: Oh that is actually the one I just can't take
Speaker 2: myself to lay down the law on. So if they're
Speaker 2: bad at kissing, I just kind of avoid their face.
Speaker 1: Do we see do we at least see I avoid
Speaker 1: their face? Do we at least see the irony, just
Speaker 1: a little bit from the outside where you go. Look, buddy,
Speaker 1: I need you to be balls deep inside of me.
Speaker 1: But don't put that fucking face anywhere near me. Okay,
Speaker 1: not near this face, do we see that's a little
Speaker 1: iron I'm not my.
Speaker 2: Fault that some of them are better at using their
Speaker 2: dicks and their lips and their tongue.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, not your fault at all. No, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's always been a problem of mind, except it's just everything,
Speaker 1: like nothing I use works. Everything's a broken toolbox on me.
Speaker 1: So you know, let me ask you. Uh so that
Speaker 1: first time goes well, then I assume.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would that worked very well.
Speaker 1: Okay, you go back to your husband. How do you
Speaker 1: relay Do you let me ask you? Do you relay
Speaker 1: this to him during sex, like getting him worked up?
Speaker 1: Or do you just tell him like around the kitchen table,
Speaker 1: like you're eating macaroni cheese and then you're like yeah,
Speaker 1: And then he fucked me and.
Speaker 2: No, he was very ready to have a piece of
Speaker 2: me when I got home, So it was like in
Speaker 2: immediately like as he was like undressing me, like I
Speaker 2: had to start telling everything. It was really funny because
Speaker 2: I was really shy. I was really shy about talking
Speaker 2: about it, and so I'm just kind of look sad there.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, and I'm like I just
Speaker 2: hated him the phone. I like, let him watch the videos.
Speaker 1: Let me tell again, bless his heart. He's a good man.
Speaker 1: He's giving you you know this that you're enjoying and whatever.
Speaker 1: But I am fully on his side. If he had
Speaker 1: been angry, he probably wasn't. But if you came home
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't really want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the deal. No being shy.
Speaker 2: There was. There was no like I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it that that was not what happened. I
Speaker 2: just was like very shy about how I put details out,
Speaker 2: Like I just wasn't very descriptive I put it. I
Speaker 2: made it very clear, you know, that was our agreement,
Speaker 2: and so I did I would never ever do that,
Speaker 2: but I was very just like a, yeah, so this,
Speaker 2: this and this happened, and I like wouldn't describe like
Speaker 2: anything that I really enjoyed or anything.
Speaker 1: I would just be like, yeah, so okay, so you
Speaker 1: do that the first time? Does he love the experience,
Speaker 1: are you guys like if he at that point like
Speaker 1: maybe do it again. Maybe it was a one time.
Speaker 2: Thing, you know, No, he really liked it. I was
Speaker 2: the one that was kind of like a just because
Speaker 2: mostly because of the stigma around it. And that was
Speaker 2: also so you know, I'm pretty sure we talked about
Speaker 2: last time. You know, he was my first and only
Speaker 2: and then I got married and that was that. For
Speaker 2: a while, it was always just him, and so I
Speaker 2: think like there was a lot of like that, like
Speaker 2: what just happened afterwards? It was overall I think between
Speaker 2: the book, who was though, like we were ready to try.
Speaker 1: Again, okay throughout the process and and again, I hope
Speaker 1: this isn't too personal. If it is, if I'm digging
Speaker 1: into your emotions too much or anything, just ye, we'll
Speaker 1: move on from that. But did you ever feel like
Speaker 1: because of the way you were raised, because the way
Speaker 1: general society is and this and that you talked about
Speaker 1: the stigma, did you feel like, oh god, I'm cheating
Speaker 1: at all, even though you'd been given permission, you were
Speaker 1: told that also, sorry I can throw my hands at
Speaker 1: the camera. I'm not even Italian. But did you at
Speaker 1: all feel like, oh, I kind of just cheated. And
Speaker 1: if you did, at what point did you feel that
Speaker 1: was it when the sex commenced, was it when you
Speaker 1: were done afterwards? Or maybe you didn't feel it at all?
Speaker 2: Uh No, No, I definitely felt it, usually like the
Speaker 2: day after, like when I would have time to really
Speaker 2: like ponder and like think on it. And then there
Speaker 2: was something about when like my issue when I would
Speaker 2: try to talk to him about it is like that
Speaker 2: is when those thoughts would come, was when I was
Speaker 2: out loud saying what I did, like just I guess
Speaker 2: how wrong it sounded. Sure, And I think that caused
Speaker 2: a lot of anxiety and may with it. And like
Speaker 2: we had a period where like I stopped where I
Speaker 2: was just like okay, like I think this is it
Speaker 2: for now, like we can approach it a different time.
Speaker 2: And that's when I started exploring women.
Speaker 1: We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna delve into that. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's funny, but it's also it makes me sad that
Speaker 1: the human condition is that where you go like this
Speaker 1: person is giving you permission. It would be like if
Speaker 1: I said, punch me in the fucking face, please, I'm
Speaker 1: begging you punch me in the face, and you were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could punt now. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: not questioning you. I know I think you could beat
Speaker 1: the shit out of me, but because I'm kind of
Speaker 1: a pussy anyway, but uh, it's it's like, no, I
Speaker 1: feel I feel bad punching in. I don't want to
Speaker 1: recount this or go through it. So I totally understand
Speaker 1: what you mean. And that's what's so amazing about human
Speaker 1: beings is the different dynamics different relationships have, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it just be sexual or not sexual. I think
Speaker 1: it's very very sweet, honestly and adorable. The handholding thing
Speaker 1: you said, like, I'll rip you for it, but I
Speaker 1: think that is uh, that's like and the outside world
Speaker 1: won't get this. That's love whether you realize not you,
Speaker 1: but the general public realizes it or not. That is
Speaker 1: love where you're like, no, this is my boundary because
Speaker 1: the sex thing is the sex thing, but this rate
Speaker 1: here means something emotional to me, and I have to
Speaker 1: commend you. I think that's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's I think it's important for people,
Speaker 2: especially now that I've been in this community for a while.
Speaker 2: I think it's so important to have certain boundaries who
Speaker 2: keep the sex and feelings, you know, completely separated. That's
Speaker 2: not what people are going for. Sometimes that is what
Speaker 2: people are going for. And if that's what you know,
Speaker 2: great for them. But like, oh, there are a lot
Speaker 2: of couples I've seen I myself have seen a couple
Speaker 2: of couples crash and burn because they go into it
Speaker 2: and they're not expressing those boundaries or they're not following
Speaker 2: this boundaries enough, and then it just kind of all
Speaker 2: falls apart because it goes from sex into oh you're
Speaker 2: a little too friendly for this, or oh you're doing
Speaker 2: this too much.
Speaker 1: It's just that sure, sure, all right, you got into chicks.
Speaker 1: I have a pretty good memory when people say something
Speaker 1: that's very funny, and I believe the term was aggressively heterosexual.
Speaker 1: Right if I knew this was coming, you had to
Speaker 1: know this is coming. That would be like if I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not into dudes and I showed up
Speaker 1: on the webcam with a cock in my mouth, like,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I said that for a long time.
Speaker 1: Aggressively heterosexual no more, I assume.
Speaker 2: Not aggressively that yeah, definitely definitely not. I'll put it
Speaker 2: to you this way, I can definitely puck a woman.
Speaker 2: I definitely could still never romantically be with a woman.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hold their hands, I understand.
Speaker 2: Actually put in fact, the girlfriend that I had up
Speaker 2: until recently, I actually, you know we didn't hold hands.
Speaker 1: Well, no, you know, a lover, she's just see you now,
Speaker 1: chick your hooking up with? All right? So how does
Speaker 1: this happen? Because I would have guessed, no way, this
Speaker 1: isn't happening, and this girl might take a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of dicks and have her husband. But I don't think
Speaker 1: there's going to be a chick involved anywhere. That's wrong.
Speaker 1: When did that change?
Speaker 2: So the luh? So basically last November, I had had
Speaker 2: a friend that I had had a little bit of
Speaker 2: an experience with but we're not going to talk about
Speaker 2: just because that's prior to nice. But I had a
Speaker 2: little bit of experience with that person. It didn't go
Speaker 2: all the way, and I just kind of pondered it
Speaker 2: for a long time afterwards, Like I just I pondered it.
Speaker 2: And part of the reason that I had stopped fucking
Speaker 2: guys for a while was because I was tired of
Speaker 2: the flake is and how hard it was to get
Speaker 2: to meet ups do to our schedule and what the
Speaker 2: guy's schedule would be like and stuff. So I was like, well,
Speaker 2: it will be way easier there's a woman around, because
Speaker 2: my husband can see a woman and it will be awkward.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just try those. I'm like. I
Speaker 2: talked to him about it for about a week and
Speaker 2: I really thought about it. And I had known I
Speaker 2: had experienced attraction women, and I was like, okay, let
Speaker 2: me let me just second try it, let me give
Speaker 2: it a chance. And I and on a few dating apps,
Speaker 2: and I had a specific things I was looking for,
Speaker 2: and just so happens, one of the ones I found
Speaker 2: worked out really well. Her and I have very similar personalities.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Uh is she fully by or lesbian
Speaker 1: or Okay? So she's had she's experienced, she's a new
Speaker 1: girl coming into this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's she's been with like a couple of girls,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't at least that experience. And she was
Speaker 2: a hot wife as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, is she a content creator at all? Or no?
Speaker 2: No, she did, I mean she didn't help me make content,
Speaker 2: but no, she's no content creator.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what is that like? I mean,
Speaker 1: let's go back to the anxiety and fear. I just
Speaker 1: pitched to you about a dude, uh, the first time
Speaker 1: with a first time with this check, we'll put it
Speaker 1: that way. What is that like?
Speaker 2: Actually, it wasn't nearly as bad because I, uh, with women,
Speaker 2: I have learned I'm naturally more dominant. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: could be in a more controlled space and as well
Speaker 2: if she came to my house for the first time,
Speaker 2: like I cooked for her and like I planned out
Speaker 2: like a sweet little sexy night for us, like it was.
Speaker 2: It was, it was good, and I made a very
Speaker 2: good first suppression with her. Let's say the lease.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how did you? I mean, how did
Speaker 1: you make a good impression? You just made good food
Speaker 1: or like you know, you went down on her at
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 2: Of course I did make your food. No, I mean
Speaker 2: we definitely at this time. I had this like huge
Speaker 2: circular bath up and I did fuck her in that left.
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask just for clarity on that you
Speaker 1: fucked her? How do two chicks in your definition fuck?
Speaker 1: I mean, was this just hand stuff? You go down
Speaker 1: on her?
Speaker 2: Did you fingering and eating out. We do use a
Speaker 2: lot of toys. We tried to strap up on once,
Speaker 2: but we both started laughing, so that was a no go.
Speaker 1: One time, I was laying on my stomach and my
Speaker 1: wife just jumped on my back to like joke, and
Speaker 1: she starts thrust in on me. And she was doing
Speaker 1: it for like a minute and a half. She's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, don't your thigh is hurt when you're
Speaker 1: doing this like this? How do you do this? I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm a dude. Okay. I give you a minute and
Speaker 1: a half of pure pleasure and you take it and
Speaker 1: live with it. Okay, don't worry about my pain and
Speaker 1: I have to go through.
Speaker 2: That's valid.
Speaker 1: Uh? Okay, what do you what is the definition you
Speaker 1: referred to your relationship as? What is it non something?
Speaker 2: What is ethical non monogamy?
Speaker 1: Okay? Now has that swung the other way at all?
Speaker 1: Or is your ethical non monogamy? Your husband just wants
Speaker 1: you with other people? Has uh? Has he experienced anyone
Speaker 1: else in this?
Speaker 2: He? We all? So we all actually me her and
Speaker 2: him would do three somes and I would do three
Speaker 2: sos with her and her husband.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And he did talk to a girl for a while
Speaker 2: and have some fun with her. I mean he's into it.
Speaker 2: He just he claims one woman is enough is enough
Speaker 2: pressure for him.
Speaker 1: You know, And that always sounds like a lie from
Speaker 1: the outside, like a dude trying to make a chick happy.
Speaker 1: And it's not like I've interviewed. I've interviewed so many
Speaker 1: hot wife porn stars over the last few months, just
Speaker 1: big name girls do mainstream and I always ask, you know,
Speaker 1: is your hut? And the girls always go like I
Speaker 1: tell them, like, go go fuck someone else. I'll bring
Speaker 1: you someone. I'll do this. And the guy's just like, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just like to watch you get
Speaker 1: fucked and then fuck yah afterwards or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So yes, I like I offered for him one time.
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, don't you just I was like,
Speaker 2: I feel bad. I was like, how going to fucking
Speaker 2: so many people when you're doing nothing. I'm like, go
Speaker 2: go fuck somebody, go download Tinder. I don't know. When
Speaker 2: he was like I'm good.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, okay, now did you have to
Speaker 1: now you had all But again, the same thing I
Speaker 1: just said, where in the different dynamics of relationships, these
Speaker 1: porn star girls are out there doing crazy shit sometimes
Speaker 1: and the husbands just enjoying it. They don't need a lot.
Speaker 1: Did you have any anxiety over that? You had already been,
Speaker 1: you know, hooking up with other guys and this and that,
Speaker 1: But did you have any like, am I gonna get
Speaker 1: jealous if I see him with a girl? You think
Speaker 1: in your head like, Okay, before I see it, I
Speaker 1: can process it. I can be like, yes, I've got
Speaker 1: my scorecard over here, and let's add some to his
Speaker 1: and it'll all be great. But did you have any
Speaker 1: like anxiety like what if this motherfucker smiles too hard
Speaker 1: and I have to be mad at him for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life?
Speaker 2: You know? There, there definitely was that worry and that
Speaker 2: thought process involved. I'm not even gonna lie you. It
Speaker 2: was definitely without a doubt there, And I mean it
Speaker 2: was the way that I was for a while after
Speaker 2: we opened up, Like it started with, it was just me,
Speaker 2: like only I would go out, and I was the
Speaker 2: agreement because I told him if I saw him with
Speaker 2: another woman, I couldn't trust myself to not rip one
Speaker 2: of their head off. I was like, that's not happening,
Speaker 2: so we'll wait, and eventually I realized that I liked
Speaker 2: it better if it was like a girl. I personally
Speaker 2: knew the whole like random girl thing. I don't know,
Speaker 2: just still doesn't release it right with me.
Speaker 1: You know why? Because I think in that scenario and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get in your head here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll try and get in other places on you, but
Speaker 1: not your head. Just kidding, that was a joke. Uh.
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's like, you know, the emotional want
Speaker 1: of the people you would be setting him up with.
Speaker 1: You understand, Marie over here has a husband that she
Speaker 1: really likes and they sign up, but she's never gonna
Speaker 1: try and steal your husband from you. Some chick on
Speaker 1: Tinder would maybe possibly could, you know, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like your husband's that tight. But as humans we
Speaker 1: have it in our head like I don't fucking know,
Speaker 1: I don't know this bitch. What is she gonna try?
Speaker 2: It is something similar to that in which he doesn't
Speaker 2: complain it's worked out so far.
Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead and.
Speaker 2: Lost words there present.
Speaker 1: You didn't lose them. I kind of like shook them
Speaker 1: out of you with my terrible interruption. I apologize.
Speaker 2: It happens to be honest. You can just go along
Speaker 2: because I forgot.
Speaker 1: I don't remember either where I was. Oh, okay, so
Speaker 1: in my mind, okay, I'm counting here you were at
Speaker 1: husband not included. And also I'm the same way. I
Speaker 1: met my wife at twenty and she was nineteen, and
Speaker 1: I had had one long term high school girlfriend before that.
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of him. And my body counts too,
Speaker 1: like you know, and I love my wife and I
Speaker 1: don't want to stretch it out or you know, include
Speaker 1: anyone else or blah blah blah. But I don't put
Speaker 1: any blame. I don't not blame anyone who wants to
Speaker 1: have the You get one chance at life, man, So
Speaker 1: as long as you're happy with your partner, I truthfully,
Speaker 1: as long as there's no kids or dogs involved, like,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Do whatever the fuck you want. Okay,
Speaker 1: in my mind, your count and I know this isn't
Speaker 1: in order. Is a husband over here? One guy and
Speaker 1: one girl? What is the actual number? Now? Do we
Speaker 1: have a count or have we have? We lost count?
Speaker 1: I'm hoping please. You can't hear her laughing because zoom
Speaker 1: cuts it off, but she has been laughing. She's not
Speaker 1: just looking at me if you're only listening, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, you shouldn't be listening, you should be watching this.
Speaker 1: And then after you watch this, you head over to
Speaker 1: a Twitter at Monster Underscore Baby or her only fans
Speaker 1: at Monster Underscore Baby switch out the O and the
Speaker 1: A with an X links in the episode description as always,
Speaker 1: where are we at now with partners? Maybe not even
Speaker 1: exact number, but have we been experimenting? Have we you know?
Speaker 1: Or was it that one guy and we called it quits?
Speaker 2: Give me one second. I can probably count for you.
Speaker 1: She needs a calculator, folks, which is turning me on
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, I'm not counting two of these guys.
Speaker 2: So they fucked me for thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: In high gotta count them? God, account him? Got account
Speaker 1: him for thirty seconds. Okay, if your husband fucked a
Speaker 1: girl at work but it was only for thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: would you count that? And you didn't give approval and
Speaker 1: you hated this bitch too from the holiday party last year?
Speaker 1: It doesn't count, though, right, doesn't count. That's different, doesn't
Speaker 1: count though right, No, it's totally cool. Please count the
Speaker 1: Please count the two guys.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they did it ten now.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, double digits. That's solid. Have all of
Speaker 1: them been through dating apps? Have some been through Twitter
Speaker 1: or anything like that?
Speaker 2: One Lisper read it and that was the last time
Speaker 2: I ever got a guy off Reddit.
Speaker 1: You apparently don't know the uh the stereotype of guys
Speaker 1: on Reddit. I'm surprised this guy had a dick man.
Speaker 1: Uh oh. By the way, all my listeners on Reddit,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the losers,
Speaker 1: not the cool guys like us. So why was that bad?
Speaker 2: He dropped me? What you mean he dropped you like
Speaker 2: he wanted to fuck me against the wall and he
Speaker 2: picked me up. I'm not that heavy. I'm a five
Speaker 2: to one and one hundred and thirty pounds. I'm really
Speaker 2: not that heavy, mind you. He claimed to do jiu jitsu,
Speaker 2: and he fucking picked me up and just beckon, oh
Speaker 2: my god, dropped me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 2: I laughed very fast, And then he tried messaging me
Speaker 2: again a week or so later, asking if I fuctioned again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, so that killed the whole thing. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I assume it would. But I'm just thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: as as a guy, I would be so humiliated by that,
Speaker 1: so I understand if he if he also was having
Speaker 1: trouble after that as well. Maybe he wasn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he loved it. People and Reddit are creepy sometimes.
Speaker 2: He also I felt kind of bad when I walked in.
Speaker 2: He was like shaking like a leaf. Like I literally
Speaker 2: was like, you don't have to be nervous, and he
Speaker 2: was like, but I am, And I was like, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I told you. He was just thrilled. You weren't someone
Speaker 1: a dude with a crowbar and a ski mask ready
Speaker 1: to cave his head in, all right, give me your
Speaker 1: fucking money crack. Instead, he's got some hot girl that
Speaker 1: is going to drop on her ass.
Speaker 2: I will say. After that though, on tender, I put, yeah,
Speaker 2: you get an A plus if you think you can
Speaker 2: pick me up, Just just so it was out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's fair? Was he.
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Did you slip or were when you looked at the
Speaker 1: guy where you're like, I don't think he could pick
Speaker 1: me up?
Speaker 2: No, no, And I'm not gonna lie. When I looked
Speaker 2: at him, I was like kind of questioning it. But
Speaker 2: he's so wor up and down he could and I would, Okay.
Speaker 1: Did you look at him afterwards and go you couldn't, motherfucker?
Speaker 2: But I really kind of wanted to, but I'm a
Speaker 2: little too nice for that, so I just kind of
Speaker 2: looked at the ground really sadly.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, vixen, uh, has there been anything
Speaker 1: you've tried that maybe you thought you weren't gonna be
Speaker 1: interested in before getting into this, any kind of kink
Speaker 1: or fetish or anything besides the other gender as we discussed,
Speaker 1: But is there anything that maybe a guy out there
Speaker 1: introduce us to you and then did you have any
Speaker 1: interest in bringing that back home maybe and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: try this to your husband or maybe we could do this.
Speaker 1: Has there been any new experiences for you?
Speaker 2: No? Actually, I mean pretty much. My husband and I
Speaker 2: are very explorative people on our own, so it would
Speaker 2: honestly be pretty hard. I'm also into some pretty crazy
Speaker 2: stuff already, so it'd be pretty hard to like explore
Speaker 2: and go out and find something new or been something
Speaker 2: that I would personally feel as a morally wrong.
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, okay, all right, has there been Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a negative, and I don't mean it to be.
Speaker 1: I'll try and add a joke in there too that
Speaker 1: has there been any guys who have tried to push
Speaker 1: boundaries on you that you that you were like, now,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not holding your hands. See this the joke. Uh,
Speaker 1: has there been anyone that's been like, you know, went
Speaker 1: a little too far and you had to be like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: when to stick to what we're doing.
Speaker 2: There was one guy. He didn't try to hold my hand,
Speaker 2: but he did keep getting me head for like an
Speaker 2: hour straight, which you would think could be heaven, but
Speaker 2: it's really not.
Speaker 1: Really was he bad at it?
Speaker 2: I it was okay. I was like. The issue though,
Speaker 2: is like and mind you, I'm somebody who likes to
Speaker 2: be overstimulated. I enjoy going multiple rounds, I enjoy being used,
Speaker 2: but I don't want a tongue on my clip for
Speaker 2: an hour straight. I that's that's not over stimulation. That's
Speaker 2: just crazy.
Speaker 1: What did you get bored at some point or did
Speaker 1: you like what is? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got so bored. I got so bored, like I
Speaker 2: just and he his personality was kind of a mid too.
Speaker 2: He was one of the ones that he literally and
Speaker 2: I like, you know, everybody that I met, I made
Speaker 2: it very clear, like I was there for Condon, like
Speaker 2: I wanted con to get done. He didn't want his
Speaker 2: face in, so I really couldn't get anything of what
Speaker 2: he did do for an hour street and then he
Speaker 2: fucked me for like actually five minutes, but he took
Speaker 2: like very small ten to fifteen second clips that were
Speaker 2: half blurry when he did fuck me, And he didn't
Speaker 2: even fuck me good.
Speaker 1: So, oh, if you're listening right now, sir, maybe dial
Speaker 1: back some of the pussy eating please, Yeah, was he trying?
Speaker 1: Do you think was he trying to like prove to
Speaker 1: you I'm a good fuck or was that what he enjoyed?
Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest with you, I like I always
Speaker 1: check first, but I love not having my dick touched,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I like watching my wife get
Speaker 1: excited and when and then when she's all like huh,
Speaker 1: that's my time, that's when I jump in and I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I don't have to make it come with my dick.
Speaker 1: I just did it everywhere else. You're good, so don't
Speaker 1: complain in a minute and a half, But what do
Speaker 1: you think his deal was with that? I could see
Speaker 1: myself being like I got to prove him real good.
Speaker 1: But I think I would take the cues at least.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I guess he did give
Speaker 2: me a fair warning, because he did. He did tell
Speaker 2: me he really liked eating pussy. But every time he
Speaker 2: said that, I also was like, haha, yeah, but don't forget.
Speaker 2: We gotta do is.
Speaker 1: Haha when at the end I did not have.
Speaker 2: My boundary set. Is hard at the time, though, and
Speaker 2: it was definitely a learning experience, and he was one
Speaker 2: of my biggest learning experiences. And then he didn't pay
Speaker 2: me for the half of the hotel that he owed
Speaker 2: me for. So if you're listening now, i'd really like
Speaker 2: my forty dollars back.
Speaker 1: By the way, eighty bucks for a hotel. That's pretty solid.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's not bad. Maria.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, have you ever what do you
Speaker 1: do with the hotel? Do you just leave after what
Speaker 1: you're done, don't even check out or anything.
Speaker 2: Usually get the guys to get the hotel and do
Speaker 2: the walk of shame if I can help it, But
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll do it. Sometimes they're nice enough to do
Speaker 2: the walk of shame with me, you know what, they're
Speaker 2: the real ones that I still talk to.
Speaker 1: Well, that's nice. It's nice you're making friends. I okay,
Speaker 1: have you ever thought about experimenting with this? And do
Speaker 1: you think your husband might be interested in this? You
Speaker 1: guys get the hotel room, you do your thing with
Speaker 1: another guy, and then your husband comes in afterwards in
Speaker 1: the same bed.
Speaker 2: That's happened.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, all right. That's what I was wondering,
Speaker 1: because if you're really into it, and especially like you said,
Speaker 1: like he really wanted to get into it as soon
Speaker 1: as you came home, I would think like being at
Speaker 1: the quote unquote scene of the crime type of thing
Speaker 1: would get you really excited. Did he did he like that?
Speaker 1: Did he think it was weird at all? Was there
Speaker 1: bugs in the hotel room at all? That freaked him out?
Speaker 1: And he couldn't get a hard one because I've been there?
Speaker 2: Uh no bugs, Thankfully. We were very, very into it.
Speaker 2: He definitely definitely enjoyed it. I mean, he has been
Speaker 2: the one that's been the most confident in everything so far.
Speaker 1: Honestly, let me who has Do you have a clear
Speaker 1: number one in not including your husband in guys you've
Speaker 1: been with where you're like, you either go back to
Speaker 1: him constantly, you either can't get back to him for
Speaker 1: some reason, like he's not interested anymore, it's too long
Speaker 1: of a trave whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is I actually is. I we just just recently actually
Speaker 2: break things off, just du because our schedules just kept
Speaker 2: not working. But there's one run actually around this time
Speaker 2: last year, met up with for the first time, and
Speaker 2: we tried. We kept trying to get together, and kept
Speaker 2: trying to get together and kept trying, and nothing ever
Speaker 2: worked out. For whatever reason, we were right there and
Speaker 2: he just we just finally decided to go our separate ways.
Speaker 2: But I just ended up going to find a new one.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: Well it doesn't matter. But let me ask that guy
Speaker 1: what made him so special?
Speaker 2: He fucked so good. He like he knew the right way.
Speaker 2: When I'm like looking for a guy, I as a
Speaker 2: switch like. I enjoy some men, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: But if I'm going to have somebody that's constantly like
Speaker 2: going to be fucking le or especially for like recording,
Speaker 2: usually I prefer dominant men. And he knew how to
Speaker 2: be dominant, not even just with his words, just the
Speaker 2: way that he carried himself, which are very much appreciated.
Speaker 2: He's very good at men handling, which is like a
Speaker 2: huge thing for me. And you know there's guys that
Speaker 2: can have like bigger dicks and not know how to fuck.
Speaker 2: I've experienced it. Sure he had a bigger dick and
Speaker 2: he knew how to fuck. Okay, And I like the space.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't he wouldn't let me show his space on camera.
Speaker 2: But I really like his face.
Speaker 1: Se there's something kind of sweet about that too. You're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you have a really handsome face and a giant dick.
Speaker 1: Let's get our schedules together.
Speaker 2: That was about that. That was about our conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a giant dick? Like? Is it? I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I use the word giant. You didn't, but it was
Speaker 1: it big? Is it the big? Is it the longest one?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you take your husband out of
Speaker 1: the equation, because you're I'm sure a wonderful wife, and
Speaker 1: but we'll be like, my husband's the best dick ever,
Speaker 1: which is what I would say about my wife too,
Speaker 1: even if all the other stuff was better. But take
Speaker 1: the husband out of the equation. What made this guy's
Speaker 1: dick the best one you worked with? Aside from him
Speaker 1: being able to fuck? It was it was it the
Speaker 1: longest you've ever had. Was it the thickest you've ever had?
Speaker 1: Or was it a reasonable size that it fit just
Speaker 1: right for you?
Speaker 2: No, it was just a good size and the way
Speaker 2: that it curved up just right, it just it fit
Speaker 2: perfectly in me, I guess. And it hit that spot
Speaker 2: like every time and most angles. I was able to
Speaker 2: read it like doggy. It was actually kind of so
Speaker 2: big that I kind of did have to ask him
Speaker 2: to back off a little because it's so long and
Speaker 2: I'm a small person and I can't take bag big dick.
Speaker 1: Apparently I've never heard that from any woman ever. But
Speaker 1: that's okay, Uh, that's that's that's me. That's my own
Speaker 1: personal problems. I'll talk about with my shrink. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we're actually we're at time just about so we're gonna
Speaker 1: wrap this one up soon. Let's get into a little
Speaker 1: bit more on content. So going forward, how is your
Speaker 1: only fans? By the way at Monster Underscore Baby switch
Speaker 1: out the O and the A with an X link
Speaker 1: in the episode description. How has your content evolved at all?
Speaker 1: Has it evolved? Do you treat your only fans like
Speaker 1: a career? Career? Now, what's give me an update on
Speaker 1: what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still very much not treating it like a career.
Speaker 2: I'm treating it for fun. But I do like to
Speaker 2: keep a schedule, and I do enjoy the money it
Speaker 2: does bring because it's my spending money, so I do
Speaker 2: I do at least keep things up. I still have
Speaker 2: no intentions of ever being like a giant porn star
Speaker 2: or anything ever has been my intentions. I don't think
Speaker 2: that it ever will be. But I camera quality, like
Speaker 2: the quality of my content has gotten better, especially a
Speaker 2: long and more experience, so I've had the more of
Speaker 2: ben able to talk to other creators and bounce ideas
Speaker 2: off of other creators. I would feel that just the
Speaker 2: vibe that I bring with mind content in general has
Speaker 2: very much shifted into a place that I prefer more.
Speaker 1: And what is that, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, it's along with you know,
Speaker 2: the kind of like the name change shift. Almost like
Speaker 2: I was, you know, sweep and fun and wild and
Speaker 2: here now I'm just sexy. I'm sultry. I'm just here
Speaker 2: to be a slut and that's okay.
Speaker 1: So why did we do the name change? Was it
Speaker 1: just a preference thing was it? Literally, like like you
Speaker 1: changed your name to change because your personality changed along
Speaker 1: with it. Like I am not that I have a
Speaker 1: problem Rosie. Here's what I will say. Vixen is a
Speaker 1: good name for you. But I do see a lot
Speaker 1: of vixens. That's okay, you'll stand out, you're your own self.
Speaker 1: Rosie I thought was kind of like cute and like
Speaker 1: country a little bit. And you got this redhead Rosie.
Speaker 1: Oh blah blah blah. I like them both, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. Why did you decide to change it? I just.
Speaker 2: I kind of wasn't a fan of the way of
Speaker 2: the Rosie name, like the type of people the Rosy
Speaker 2: name seem to bring around, which seems ironic, but really,
Speaker 2: like my fans, the types of fans that I get
Speaker 2: has changed because the personality that I held and everything
Speaker 2: with the Rosie, because I guess I was the more
Speaker 2: fun and sweet, brought some very disturbing individuals. But ever
Speaker 2: since I've just been vixim Like I just get usually
Speaker 2: with fairly calm guys. I don't I mean, I still
Speaker 2: get very kinky guys, but because it's so put out
Speaker 2: there now of what I'm there for and the mood
Speaker 2: that I said, because I feel like I'm just being
Speaker 2: so much more prominent in the mood that I'm setting
Speaker 2: for my business. I guess for lack of better words,
Speaker 2: and I mean it's worked.
Speaker 1: Sure. What kind of guys were you getting? Where? They creeps? Like?
Speaker 2: Yes, I really, I don't want to elaborate more, but
Speaker 2: they were creeps.
Speaker 1: Okay. I assume with the name like Rosie. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: they either want it either act younger than you are
Speaker 1: or like the robot from the Jetsons.
Speaker 2: They wanted me that I younger.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well was how old are you now?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty one?
Speaker 1: Younger, Well, that would push you into a illegal category. Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand that. I think, right, that's what they want. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't have to laborate anymore. My former partner on
Speaker 1: my comedy show, his wife is on OnlyFans, and some
Speaker 1: of the requests he got when she first went on
Speaker 1: was like do a JOI video for me and just
Speaker 1: keep saying that you're fourteen years old, and it's like, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: go to the fucking hell and maybe prison first, Like
Speaker 1: what are you doing and why would you get who's
Speaker 1: even comfortable requesting that.
Speaker 2: You know, I wish that was the worst thing that
Speaker 2: I've heard.
Speaker 1: But I ate dinner earlier. So let's just you know,
Speaker 1: we'll leave it at that. I don't want to throw
Speaker 1: up on your own.
Speaker 2: I had no interest in recounting my tales. Anyways, it's okay,
Speaker 2: fair enough, m.
Speaker 1: Two more questions, and it actually kind of surrounds going
Speaker 1: back to what we said before. Have there been any
Speaker 1: multiple guy situations that you've been involved in?
Speaker 2: No, I got so close. But but this new fuck
Speaker 2: buddy that I've got, this new content partner that has
Speaker 2: come running my way, is open to that and hasn't
Speaker 2: done it with two guys. He has done with two women,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't done with two guys. But he's very
Speaker 2: very open to it. So there is a big hope
Speaker 2: for that in the future.
Speaker 1: Okay, and are you excited for that as well?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Now you say you get him and another guy, right,
Speaker 1: and you really like it, like really enjoy the attention
Speaker 1: and this and that, and then he goes, hey, I
Speaker 1: got two more buddies.
Speaker 2: That It sounds like a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a but this is important. You're gonna want these
Speaker 1: experiences when you get old. Okay, you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: look back at your grandkids and say, Grandma got gang
Speaker 1: banged one time in an eighty dollars motel room, and the.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm not telling my grandkids that.
Speaker 1: Well, the way society is crumbling, like, they'll be looking
Speaker 1: for gasoline and bullets on the street anyway, so like
Speaker 1: you'll be able to recount those stories and it won't
Speaker 1: be so weird.
Speaker 2: You know, it's diabolical work.
Speaker 1: That's society. I can't change it. Look at who am I,
Speaker 1: I'm nobody. That's how it's gonna work. And they're gonna
Speaker 1: need entertaining stories because there'll be no more electricity so
Speaker 1: they can't watch TV. So you gather them up and
Speaker 1: you go come here like Grandma Vix and tell you
Speaker 1: all about the time she took four dudes into a
Speaker 1: hotel room.
Speaker 2: I really hope not.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I kind of hope. So
Speaker 1: I think that'll be cute and fun and they'll be
Speaker 1: like Grandma, that's so great. They'll be wearing like a
Speaker 1: neckless of ears from people they killed out on the
Speaker 1: streets because society is crumbled and we have no electricity.
Speaker 1: It's mad Max is what I'm picturing. Speechless, folks, I've
Speaker 1: left her speechless. Ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Vixen
Speaker 1: formally Rosie. Go check out her first that's my suggestion
Speaker 1: to you. Go check out her first interview, either audio
Speaker 1: or video. They're both up completely free. Check out her
Speaker 1: first stuff, and then watch this one. I probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: tell you at the end of the episode to do that,
Speaker 1: but regardless, if you have watched this one already, go
Speaker 1: watch her first one and see how much she's grown.
Speaker 1: And not that you were bad at all before, but
Speaker 1: you've matured. It feels like it feels like you know
Speaker 1: what you want. More, feels like you're more.
Speaker 2: I'm way funnier too.
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: I like to think? So?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll be the judge of that. I'm the
Speaker 1: one that was making the Mad Max jokes about your grandchildren. Umm,
Speaker 1: go ahead, no, fair enough. You can find her on
Speaker 1: Twitter and only fans, same user name on both, which
Speaker 1: I fucking love at Monster Underscore Baby switch out the
Speaker 1: O and the A with an X, so it's m
Speaker 1: x N S T E R Underscore B x b Y,
Speaker 1: Twitter and only fans. Vixen, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on with me tonight.