1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:07,839 Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,359 Speaker 2: Welcome to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:16,359 Tim Link. Thank you for joining us today. My guest 4 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:19,640 today is Larry Levin. He'll be talking with us today 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,399 about his recently released book Oogi, The Dog Only a 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,160 Family Could Love, and he illustrates how a dog, by 7 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:31,519 giving a second chance with people that love him, persevered 8 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,240 to overcome the greatest of odds. 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,399 Speaker 3: And it's a great book and we'll talk a lot 10 00:00:35,439 --> 00:00:35,960 about Oogi. 11 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure Ugi is there with us as well, so 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,240 we're going to be excited to talk to Larry about that. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,240 But first, before we started, I always like to give 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,479 everybody little tidbits bits of news, things that I think 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,240 are interesting and exciting, and today we're going to be 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,119 talking about the Holland Military Working Dog Hospital Now. The 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,799 Holland Military Working Dog Hospital is located at Lakeland Air 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,679 Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. 19 00:00:58,079 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: Now. 20 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,159 Speaker 2: This hospital's purpose is to care for the health needs 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,400 the more than two thousand working dogs currently serving in 22 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:09,799 the military, the Transportation Safety Board, the TSA, the US 23 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:13,680 Custom Service, and other government agencies. Approximately sixty dogs per 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,560 year are seen at the hospital for everything including regular 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,319 checkups to life threatening emergencies. The director is Colonel Bob Vogelsong, 26 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,920 and Colonel Vogosong was quoted recently in an article on 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,319 People Pets magazine and online as saying, these dogs are 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,319 veterans and their veterans too, like any other veterans served 29 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:36,439 in the war. We should be taking care of them, 30 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,359 and that's exactly what they do at Holland Military Working 31 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:42,599 Dog Hospital. So I applaud them for the great work 32 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:44,439 that they're doing, and I applaud them for taking care 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,400 of the animals realizing that the dogs are veterans and 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,359 serve their purpose, serve their duty for America and help 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,280 everyone out. So you can learn more about the dogs 36 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:56,200 and learn more about the Holland Military Working Dog Hospital 37 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:59,680 by going to my blog on pet Life Radio that's 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,079 pet Life Radio dot com. Click on the Animal Rights 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Little Picture and that'll lead you over to my website 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,080 which you can read more about the articles and I'll 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,599 have the links on there as well. So big kudos 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,439 down to the folks in Santatotio Holland Military Working Dog 43 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:18,039 Hospital and take care of those veteran dogs. 44 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: So we applaud them. 45 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: Now We're gonna go take a break here briefly, but 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,960 we'll be right back with Larry Levin to talk about Oogie. 47 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:29,039 You're listening to animal rights on pet Life Radio. 48 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 5: Stay would be right back after a short pause, well before. 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:45,639 To be exact. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,879 Speaker 3: At Petco, we really love pets. 51 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,719 Speaker 6: There isn't anything we won't do to make sure they're 52 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,000 getting the best products and the best care. 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 5: So when you ask us a. 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: Question like how do you feel about cat condos, we 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,159 can say from experience, sounds like home. 56 00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: For her. 57 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 7: Enter the code Lucky ten, Lucky then number ten and 58 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:14,560 get ten percent off any order, no minimum at petcode 59 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:19,479 dot com. 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,719 Speaker 6: There's a movement of foot shoe buy dot com join 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,039 the millions of people who shop shoe by dot COM's 62 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:28,360 over four hundred brands and five hundred thousand products. 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Working Like Dogs is the show where you 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,240 can learn everything you've ever wanted to know about working 82 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:38,319 animals or working dogs. Whether you're a member of a 83 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,360 working dog team, or you've just seen a working dog 84 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,079 or animal out at the mall or the grocery store 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,720 and you're curious about how these amazing animals work with 86 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,639 their human partners. Been Working Like Dogs is the show 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,000 for you. Join us for the inside scoop at Working 88 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:03,399 Like Dogs on Petlife Radio dot com. 89 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: Let's talk pets on Petlife radio dot com. 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back to animal rights on pet Life Radio. Joining 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,560 me now is Larry Levin, who recently released his New 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,319 York Times best selling book, Ugi, the Dog only a 93 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,519 family could love. Larry good to hear from you. Congratulations 94 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,120 on the success of the book and congratulations on realizing 95 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:29,360 Ugi is a valuable part of your family. 96 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 9: Well, thank you very much. I would say the first 97 00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:34,959 part about the dog came easy. The part about the 98 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:38,360 book has been quite another adventure. Who would nobody would 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,160 have ever guessed that it would end up where it 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,639 ended up. 101 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely well. 102 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: I think when you put the right and perfect words 103 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:45,720 out there, and you put the right and perfect message 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,800 and love out there, things amazing things can happen. And 105 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,879 that's exactly what's happened with Ugi. And this is your 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,519 your first book, it is. 107 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 9: My first book, I'm and which made one reason why 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,959 I don't feel any I keep telling my wife that 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,360 I should feel different, but I don't, And maybe because 110 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,160 I'm not a young man. And so things have plodded 111 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,439 along the way they have for a good long while. 112 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,879 And aside from seeing the notification on the book cover 113 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:16,879 that it's a New York Times bestseller, there really hasn't 114 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,279 been any change in our lives whatsoever, except we've met 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,399 some really great people that we probably wouldn't have bother 116 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,519 was gotten to. 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: Me it's great, heartwarming story Ugi. It's a lot of fun. 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,759 And now Ugi's been with your family since two thousand 119 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,079 and two. So what finally inspired you to write the 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,839 book about him? 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,639 Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if you're familiar with the story 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,959 we were. Initially I was asked by a local rescue 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,319 to do it a short piece on Ugie. And this was, 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,120 guess about two thousand and six. They were starting. At 125 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,319 that time the movement was starting to get more accurate 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,120 recognition for fighting dogs, and there were the bully breeds, 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,600 I should say, and what great pets they can be. 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,040 So I wrote this short article about Ugi an unbeknownstant 129 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,639 be it started kicking around the internet, and one day 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,319 in February of two thousand and eight, I believe it 131 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:10,920 was one evening. It's like six thirty the evening, and 132 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,160 I was making dinner for the boys and the telephone 133 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:17,040 ran and this young woman introduced herself as being from 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,920 some production company that I'd never heard of, and would 135 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:23,399 I be interested in telling my story on television? So 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,079 we talked for a while and then she said, well 137 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:26,879 that sounds great. Can you come out here next week? 138 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:28,680 I said, there's no way I can come out there 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,879 next week. My wife's an attorney. One boy it's on 140 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:33,439 the wrestling team. The other places Winner Lacrosse, you know, 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,240 maybe by April. And she said, no, we want to 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,240 put you on our Valentine's Day show and you're filming 143 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:40,319 that next week. I said, there's just no way I 144 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:42,399 can do it. What's the name of the show and 145 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:45,199 the woman said, it's the Oprah Winfrey Show. So I said, okay, 146 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,800 we'll be there. So just you know, I was easy. 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,720 So I drove Ugi out because that's the least stressful 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 way for him to travel. Ugi can't be in a crate. 149 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:58,199 He associates being in a steel creer with having his 150 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:00,759 face torn apart. And I would leave them alone for 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,240 that long, you know, in an unfamiliar place. Anyway, So 152 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:08,639 I drove out, and my wife and the boys flew out, 153 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,040 and they flew back, and I drove back. And then 154 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:15,519 a young man who had just finished being just finished 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,879 eight years as an editor was starting a new job 156 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,319 as a literary agent, and I was his first phone 157 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:23,079 call and he said, have you ever thought about writing 158 00:08:23,079 --> 00:08:25,839 about this? And I've always wanted to write. And in fact, 159 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:28,519 when the boys went away to college, they were juniors 160 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,000 at the time in high school. When they went away 161 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,639 to college. I had planned on writing some of the 162 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,919 things I've been carrying around with me to write, never 163 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480 had the time to do, and I said, sure, let's 164 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,559 give it a try. And three or four months later 165 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:45,399 he sold the idea, and I finished the first draft 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,279 and got the first draft back, and a quarter of 167 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 it was gone without explanation, just whole chapters with the 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,039 lines through them. And so I had a few words 169 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,840 to say to my editor, And after four or five days, 170 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:01,039 the proverbial light bulb went on, and I saw what 171 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,879 she was challenging me to do, and she So what 172 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,200 started out as the story that I wrote didn't end 173 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,240 up being the story that we finished with because she 174 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,080 challenged me, and she took me great places, places I 175 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,080 wouldn't have gone myself. And so what started out as 176 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,320 a book about Boogie and a book about rescue ended 177 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,519 up also being about my sons who were adopted when 178 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:29,159 they were three days old, and issues of rescue beyond 179 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,080 the superficial one of we lucked out and took this 180 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,919 dog home, or took the dog home and lucked out. 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,360 As it turns out, you know, there was No, I 182 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,240 don't know that I would have been so quick to 183 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,720 jump in if I knew then what I knew now 184 00:09:42,879 --> 00:09:47,039 about the problems that you can encounter with an abused dog. 185 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,840 But there will never wear any complications. There never were 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,080 any problems. He's always been happy to be here, so 187 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:54,879 he made it easy. 188 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:56,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know. 189 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,519 Speaker 2: And for the listeners out there, I'm sure everybody's aware 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,399 of the book, but definitely pick up a copy and 191 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,240 w Yeah, it's just a great book of warm story. 192 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,799 And you know Oogie was used for a bait dog 193 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:12,240 and a dog fighting ring. But tell the listeners a 194 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:14,399 little bit more about how Ougi came in your life, 195 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,000 because you know, I'm a firm believer that animals pick us. 196 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,159 Speaker 9: Oh, there's absolutely no doubt. And I know it sounds silly. 197 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:24,720 You have to realize that Ugi was about somewhere between 198 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,720 three and four months old when this happened to him. 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,159 So he's a dog that never knew any human kindness. 200 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,559 And after his face was torn apart, and I mean literally, 201 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,799 he lost the left side of his face from just 202 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,159 behind his muzzle to back where his ear was, he 203 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:42,440 was just thrown into a cage and left to die. 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,840 And the vet who saved him. Doctor Bianco estimates that 205 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:47,919 he lay in that condition for up to a week, 206 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:51,399 five to seven days, no food, no water, no medicine, 207 00:10:51,639 --> 00:10:55,559 bleeding and fully and becoming fully infected. And something drove 208 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:59,840 that something kept that dog alive. And when we met him, 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,919 he had been at the animal hospital for about three weeks. 210 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:07,679 And I can only describe it as though he as 211 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,360 soon as he saw us, he recognized us. It's like 212 00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:13,720 he'd been waiting for us. And one of the boys 213 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:17,320 went down. The boys were twelve at the time, and 214 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,320 they were bringing Ugie out of the back of the 215 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,440 animal hospital for a walk. We had a cat that 216 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,080 was dying, so we had taken the cat over there, 217 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,120 and the technician was bringing this a little white dog 218 00:11:27,159 --> 00:11:29,960 out and the dog literally tore the leash out of 219 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,399 her hand. And Noah had gone down on one knee 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,759 and Oogie rocketed in him so hard he knocked him 221 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:38,360 over and then just stood on licking him. I mean, 222 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:41,720 it's it sounds unbelievable, but I saw it. 223 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,399 Speaker 3: I was there, so a hallmark moment there. 224 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 9: It was well, I mean I can still see the 225 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,480 dog knocking Nolla over and I don't answer for morphires animals, 226 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,240 but I do know that they have. You know, when 227 00:11:57,279 --> 00:11:59,919 we were growing up, when I was growing up years ago, 228 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,360 dogs were sort of like they weren't part of the family. 229 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,399 The dog was a pet. It was sort of like 230 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,519 maybe even like like a car, sort of like a 231 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:12,320 living car table. I don't know how to describe it. 232 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Not long ago, somebody said to me, if Oogie could 233 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,480 talk to you for five minutes, what do you think 234 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,440 he say? And I said, Oogie and I talk all 235 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,200 the time. You just have to learn how to listen. 236 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:25,879 Speaker 3: Ah, brilliant. I love that answer. Being an animal communicator, 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,639 I love that. I'm gonna it's ply. 238 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 9: Amazing what goes on that way. And I never had 239 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,360 the experience before. But we share a wavelength and so 240 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,440 we get along really well. Right. 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that connection, that heart connection, and like you said, 242 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,559 you open up your heart, opening up your mind to it. 243 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,200 And then they definitely talk to you, and they definitely do. 244 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,919 Speaker 9: And he definitely understands things that I say to him. 245 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,039 There's verbal communication, there's nonverbal communication. When I take his 246 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,039 collar off, he knows he's gone for a walk and 247 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,960 he gets really excited. But sometimes I can just say 248 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,159 to him you want to go for a walk, and 249 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:00,279 or you want to go If I said, do you 250 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,039 want to go to the park, go go bananas, he knows, 251 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,360 he understands. 252 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely fantastic. 253 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,399 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to rid to take a break here 254 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:11,519 just in a moment, but we're going to come back 255 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,440 with Larry Levin talk about Oogie, the dog only a 256 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,159 family could love. You're listening to animal Rights on pet 257 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,879 Life Radio. Stay tuned. 258 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: Six. 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Take Me Home every week on demand only 307 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:31,960 on petlife Radio dot com. 308 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,879 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Let's pet about Headlight Radio. 309 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,159 Speaker 5: Pet Light Radio dot Com. 310 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,559 Speaker 2: All right, we're back with Larry Levin on emal Rights 311 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,759 with pet Life Radio. 312 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:47,159 Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna ask you one thing. 313 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: When you take a look at the beautiful picture of 314 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:51,960 up on the cover, everybody would assume when you first 315 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,600 take that that glance, you think, well, he's an American pitmulterier. 316 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,240 But you found out and we found out that he's 317 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,960 not actually an American pitmulterrier. 318 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 9: No, No, I think that's Doctor Biaco. Might be his 319 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,279 most professionally embarrassing moment was to tell me that Oogie 320 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,519 was an American pitbull terrier and that he'd weigh about 321 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,519 fifty five pounds when he was fully grown, and six 322 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,200 months later when we went back for the first checkup, 323 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,519 he was already seventy five pounds. And I remember walking 324 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,440 in the door of the animal hospital and the Texas 325 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:26,599 sitting behind the desk said, that's a dogo. And I said, 326 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,960 what's a dogo? And she started to laugh and she said, 327 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,440 I'm not sure. So when I got home, I went 328 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:36,319 online and the first picture that I saw of the 329 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:43,079 breed looked exactly like Ugi, exactly like Googie. The dogo Argentina, Argentina. Actually, 330 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,599 I've read it's the most genetically engineered breed on the planet. 331 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,680 I read that. I don't know if it's accurate. There 332 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,680 are nine different dogs that went into the breed that 333 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,240 was developed in Argentina in nineteen twenties to haunt mountain 334 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:02,680 lion and wild boar. Mountain lion are terribly destructive of livestock, 335 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:07,559 and wild boar are terribly destructive of crops, and in fact, 336 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:09,559 they have the same problem in the Southwest. They hunt 337 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,319 ogos in the American Southwest, and they hunt in packs. 338 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,400 And Bugie is actually small for the breed. He weighs 339 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,359 eighty five pounds because he was starved as a pup. 340 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,440 But they normally, the males normally weigh around one hundred, 341 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,960 two hundred and ten pounds. And they're military dogs, they're 342 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,400 drug dogs, they're rescue dogs. They're a great breed because 343 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,759 they're also bred to be family animals. 344 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very, very family oriented. Remember the mastiff group, 345 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,079 which you know basically are worker dogs. They are hunting dogs, 346 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 they're protectors. They have all the good stuff inside of them. 347 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 9: Some of the some of them have a much more 348 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:50,720 mastiff kind of face, the rounded forehead. Oogie's kind of narrowed. 349 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,880 I mean, I've seen pictures of other dogos that look 350 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:55,160 just like him, But the others he can tell that 351 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,119 there's a mastiff in the breed. They were bred with 352 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,920 the Spanish mastiff as one of I think was one 353 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,720 one of the dogs that was used to develop the 354 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:03,359 breathe fantastic. 355 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:05,279 Speaker 2: Now I got to go back to asking you about 356 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:07,039 your best friend. Now Oprah Winfrey. 357 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 5: So here you are. 358 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,839 Speaker 3: You wrote an article. I got a little bit of traction. 359 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, producer for Oprah's group, Causia, has 360 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,759 you out there because you can't say no to Oprah. 361 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: I understand that. 362 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,759 Speaker 2: And then most recently they listed Ugi in OH Magazine 363 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:24,240 is one of the sixteen recommended books for dog lovers. 364 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,839 How's that changed things? I know you said earlier that 365 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,200 it hasn't really changed your life. Maybe hasn't sunk in. 366 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,440 But with being on Oprah and then being in OH 367 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:34,720 magazine is one of the sixteen recommended dog books. How 368 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:36,880 all the different dog and animal books out there? 369 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:38,319 Speaker 3: How's that changed for you? And Ugi? 370 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 9: I told my wife I know what it's like to 371 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,400 date George Clooney because when I go out, people will 372 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,119 come up and go, didn't I see your dog on television? 373 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,279 You know it's never me. He's so unmistakable looking. You know, 374 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,680 there aren't a lot of white, eighty five pounds one 375 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,960 of your dogs around. So once you see what Ugi 376 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:59,680 looks like, you remember him if you see him again. 377 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:02,640 I got a call the following summer. We were on 378 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:06,599 the Valentine's Day Show in two thousand and eight, and 379 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,359 the following summer a friend of mine called from Dublin 380 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,920 and she had just seen the show in Dublin. And 381 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,759 later that summer, we were down my wife and I 382 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:17,359 were getting some ice cream and a guy came up 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,039 to me and said, was your dog on television last week? 384 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:22,799 And I said no, we were on television in February. 385 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,160 Said well, I was in Israel last week and I 386 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:28,160 saw your dog on television. So he's been all over the. 387 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,079 Speaker 3: World, international superstar. 388 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, it hasn't gone to his head though. But you know, 389 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:35,880 the book's coming out in the UK, I think Saturday. 390 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:40,680 It's also going to be published in Italy, in Indonesia, 391 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:43,839 and it's already been published in Portugal and I think 392 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,599 Brazil because I got two copies of the Portuguese book 393 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:50,039 and a woman we know is from Portugal, so I 394 00:20:50,079 --> 00:20:50,680 gave her one. 395 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 396 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:54,839 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Now, any plans for the next Oogie book or 397 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,279 the children's edition. 398 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 9: Well, actually there's lots of talk. We're going to do 399 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:05,359 ets and whatever profits are made, we're going to donate 400 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,880 to various rescues I'd like to set up doctor Bianco. 401 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,039 Doctor Bianco has never nobody had ardmore Animal Hospital has 402 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,480 ever charged at the Dome for anything they've done for Lugi. 403 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,519 I mean, it's sort of like that was their gift 404 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:23,440 to us because they were so gratified. You know, if 405 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,440 the police had taken this is eight years ago. The 406 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:27,519 story is that Ubi was found in a drug bust. 407 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,000 If the police, as they are now required to do, 408 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:33,839 had taken him to the SPCA, then he'd been euthanized 409 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,599 on the spot. And in fact, the emergency room that 410 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,200 was at the animal hospital wasn't part of a hospital, 411 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:42,519 just used the facilities, hadn't done any work on them 412 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:44,880 other than bandage them up pretty much, and they were 413 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,680 going to send them to the SPCA. And the woman 414 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:50,119 who runs the hospital and knew that if that happened, 415 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:53,519 he'd be killed. So she got doctor Bianco to try 416 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:56,079 and save the dog. At first, he thought he could 417 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,400 not do it. In fact, he told her he said, Dianne, 418 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,599 I don't think I could save this dog. And she said, 419 00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:03,680 doctor bay uncle, You've got to save this dog. And 420 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:07,240 so he operated for hours to save the dog. But anyway, 421 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,400 I'm getting away from my point, I'd like to set 422 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,400 up a fund so that if people come to ourd 423 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,839 More Animal Hospital and need work that they can't afford, 424 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,000 maybe there'll be some money available to contribute to the services. 425 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,079 You know, I could make six dollars out of selling 426 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,759 t shirts. I could make six hundred dollars. I have 427 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,480 no way of knowing. But we're also going to do 428 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,440 Bogie Soft toys and the same thing will happen. Whatever 429 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,640 money is made by way, a profit will go to 430 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,160 rescue and to save animals. 431 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, that's a big kudos to you for that. 432 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,640 Keep us posted on that please, and we'll help you 433 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,519 get the word out. 434 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:46,519 Speaker 9: Well if I can figure, I had to get a 435 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:52,160 web page going. I told you before. You know technology 436 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,160 and I it's like when I used to go down 437 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240 to my inlaw's house, you would see the clock on 438 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,880 the on the VCR flashing, And I think that as 439 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,279 a general role, the younger you are, the more technologically 440 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,319 adept you are. Yeah, so I had to go up 441 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,240 to New York to the publisher to get tutored on 442 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,559 how to Luke he's got a Facebook page. 443 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a Facebook page. Everybody sign up in 444 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,200 friend Oogie. 445 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 9: On that and I had to go up to New 446 00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:17,720 York so they could teach. 447 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:18,039 Speaker 8: Me how to do it. 448 00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: It's hard to keep up with technology before that, sure is. 449 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, before I started working with animals full time, I 450 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,279 spent twenty years in telecommunications with advanced seller of phone 451 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,319 technologies and been now that business for a while now, 452 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359 and I think it's already slipped me by. There's so 453 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,880 much stuff you can do with those devices now. 454 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: You know. 455 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 9: I'm reading The Lost Dogs now. Somebody gave it to 456 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,960 me as a gift, and that's a pretty powerful book. 457 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very powerful book, a great book. And 458 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,599 I had an opportunity when the whole Michael Vick thing 459 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000 came down, being from Georgia to be involved in some 460 00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:55,799 of that, as far as going down to the legislature 461 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,400 and talking to them about dog fighting anti dog fighting laws. 462 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,599 And actually, you know, the good news from that book 463 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,039 and all that tragedy that happened is now in Georgia 464 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,680 and other places, we're realize how bad it is and 465 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:10,440 we're starting. 466 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,519 Speaker 3: To do some things about we have some laws. 467 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we've gone we and I that's Ugie and 468 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,240 I when I say we've started to go into schools 469 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,200 in the area to talk about dogfighting. We've been to 470 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,440 two so far. I've got two more scheduled, and we're 471 00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:30,480 involved with a couple of organizations that are very active 472 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,039 in combating breed specifical legislation. So, as I said to me, 473 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,440 the major change in my life has been all these 474 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,400 wonderful people. You hear a lot about what I found. 475 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,799 What I came to believe is that for all the 476 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,759 people that are doing horrible things to animals, there are 477 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,000 even more people doing great things for animals. And the 478 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,960 rescue networks are so amazing, and people do the most 479 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,039 amazing things. You just don't hear about them as much. 480 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,799 You know, plane crashes get the news, so you know, 481 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,200 equivalent of you know, pitbulls. Up until the moment that 482 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,640 I met Ugie and the doctor told me he was 483 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,279 a pit bull, you couldn't have gotten me into the 484 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,759 same room as one of with a pit bull because 485 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,920 I was so prejudiced by all the negative publicity. But 486 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,960 you know, they're a wonderful, wonderful breed of dog. And 487 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,200 I heard a great story the other day which is 488 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,720 actually it's the genesis. I started writing another book and 489 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,160 it's a book about a guy who saves a dog. 490 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,480 And what gave me the idea is a woman whose 491 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,920 husband received a terrible head injury in a rock and 492 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,599 he can't he's lost the ability to concentrate, so it 493 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,200 can't work. And she read him the book and he 494 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,680 wants to meet ugi. So I told her that they 495 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,160 live across the state. So I said, when the weather 496 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,640 gets nice, we'll figure out a place to meet and 497 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200 I'll drive and I'll meet you. You know, no, since 498 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,519 you're driving five hours, I can drive two hours and 499 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,400 meet you or something. But they have a rescued pit 500 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,839 bull and when her husband has a nightmare, the dog 501 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,640 will lick him away and then just sleep next to them. 502 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,880 And that story grabbed me so much. That's that gave 503 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,680 me the idea for the book that I'm writing now. 504 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: Fantastic will keep us breast on the progress of that. 505 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: They are definitely Pibulls are a great breed, great family breed, 506 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,519 and they definitely knew how to take care of a family. 507 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,759 Speaker 9: When they were first bread they were called nanny dogs 508 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,400 or known as nanny dogs, because they were so protective 509 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,799 and loving of the family. You know, there are three 510 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,559 I don't have the statistics in front of me, and 511 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920 I won't tell you what the breeds were in case 512 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,319 I have the information wrong. But there are three other 513 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,519 breeds of dogs who had more dog attacks than pitbulls, 514 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,920 And the last figures I heard were for two thousand 515 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,400 and eight, I think are two thousand and nine, So 516 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,359 one of which is a America's most popular family dog 517 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,119 attacked more people than pit bulls did that year. Absolutely, 518 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,079 we'll leave it at that. 519 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 520 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:54,519 Speaker 2: Well, we're coming to the end of the show, Larry, 521 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,480 But I do want to mention a quote you recently 522 00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,680 were quoted in People Pat's article as saying, what we've 523 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,640 learned is you can't avoid bad things happening. You can't 524 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,599 let them define who you are. You have to wait 525 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,599 and see what's going to come out of the other end. 526 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 9: Oh, you know, I can give you the real life 527 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,920 example of that. My one son was a top flight 528 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,240 wrestler and he was slated to be captain of the 529 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,000 wrestling team and co captain of the football team and 530 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,160 co captain of the lacrosse team his senior year, and 531 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,759 he quit football because he said to the coach, I 532 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:31,960 have no future as one hundred and sixty five pound 533 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,039 football player, and I can't put on twenty five pounds 534 00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,839 and take it off for wrestling. It affects my grades. 535 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,559 So he wrestled starting in June. He wrestled five days 536 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,359 a week and worked out, and the third match of 537 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,200 the season in November, he tore the tendon in his 538 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,240 elbow and he lost the entire season. Yeah, I mean, 539 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,279 he literally wept in my arms. And he came back 540 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,119 with two weeks left, and he went to the tournament, 541 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,160 and he not only won the district tournament, but he 542 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,240 was the first and only wrestler in the history of 543 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:04,200 the school to be voted by the coaches the outstanding 544 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,400 wrestler in the tournament because they knew what he had 545 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,039 gone through to get there. And about a week later, 546 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,519 he and I were sitting around and I said, did 547 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,599 you learn anything from your dog that helped you through this? 548 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359 And he said, yeah, I did. And I was surprised. 549 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200 I said, really what? And he said, and I will 550 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,200 phrase it for the radio. He said, stuff happens, but 551 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:22,720 you can't let it define who you are. 552 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: There you go great lessons and Ugie teaches us once again, huh, 553 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:28,400 you don't know where. 554 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 9: It's going to end up. The worst things can happen, 555 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 and they're not going to stay there. I mean, Ugi 556 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,599 is living proof that you can go through the most 557 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,759 awful experience and come out fine on the other side. 558 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: That's right. It's a great. 559 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:43,119 Speaker 9: Example from By the way, I took a note of 560 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880 I want to get that information on Colonel I think 561 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,480 its Vogel Song, Bob Vogel Song. I was told that 562 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,599 Walter Reed Army Hospital will not allow any of the 563 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,519 pitbull breeds in as therapy dogs, and so I promised 564 00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,240 myself that I would see what I could do about that. 565 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, go to Petlife radio dot com, click on 566 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,640 my icon Animal Rights, and now lead you to. 567 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,839 Speaker 3: The articles so you can learn more. 568 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 9: Thank you very much. 569 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: You're welcome. I appreciate you being on board with us today. 570 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,079 Speaker 2: We've been talking to Larry Lovin about Ugi, the dog 571 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,559 only a family could love. Larry, appreciate you coming on 572 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:22,759 Animal Right. My pleasure, pleasure to absolutely keep us abreast 573 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:23,519 of what's going. 574 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,279 Speaker 3: On in your life and with the new book. 575 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 9: Okay, thank you very much. 576 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:28,359 Speaker 2: Thank you what we're coming to the end of the 577 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,839 show today. I'd like to thank everybody for listening to 578 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. 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