Speaker 1: Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank,
Speaker 1: directly across the street from a Wiener Schnitzl that serves beer,
Speaker 1: and we are live in the studio. Sam is here, yeah,
Speaker 1: and producer Nikki is on assignment. Yes, So what's going
Speaker 1: on in Hollywood? We do this every Tuesday. Oh no,
Speaker 1: every Sunday, five to seven am, eleven fifty. Now I've
Speaker 1: just got off a kind of a twenty hour travel
Speaker 1: experience from Rio de jan Airo. So you look marvelous,
Speaker 1: thank you. But the outside looks great. It look like
Speaker 1: George Hamilton. The inside it's not natural to fly like that.
Speaker 2: No, for twenty hours.
Speaker 1: Well, by the time you'd get all the you know,
Speaker 1: you fly from Rio to Panama and you hang out
Speaker 1: there for a while, and you're at the airport two
Speaker 1: hours early, five in the morning. Flights at five in
Speaker 1: the morning. You wake up from the hotel, the Fasano.
Speaker 1: I do recommend it on Rio and Epanima. I'm your
Speaker 1: wake up is two thirty am, and you prepare for that.
Speaker 1: Then someone calls you and says your car will be
Speaker 1: there at two am, and I go, whoaha, WHOA. Psychologically
Speaker 1: you're killing me. That means I got to wake up
Speaker 1: at one thirty. Yeah, that doesn't work. So I told
Speaker 1: the guy, hey, two o'clock. He goes, all right, the
Speaker 1: guy will sit out there and wait for you, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what they do. Okay, and then you so
Speaker 1: you see what I see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You are unnaturally exhausted today. You are a traveled man today.
Speaker 2: You came in from Brazil.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. And you're in studio, of course I am.
Speaker 2: You're not phoning it in.
Speaker 1: No, I'm You're a professional. I'm in bird Bank all
Speaker 1: right because Hollywood needs me and I gotta be here.
Speaker 1: So that Yeah, I was down there for three so
Speaker 1: BlimE shows or as they're known down there, so believe
Speaker 1: me to big a big stadium bands, first stadium show
Speaker 1: since getting back together. And for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not just the two hour a week Hollywood radio guy.
Speaker 1: I'm also I have a day job and it's called
Speaker 1: managing the rock band Sublime. And uh then we played uh,
Speaker 1: we played Kuduchiba, sal Polo and Rio and it was
Speaker 1: just with offspring. All these shows are the Offspring, oh
Speaker 1: Cool and the Damned uh and rise against Amal and
Speaker 1: the Sniffers a lot of stuff. Uh so in but
Speaker 1: back in Hollywood, while things were, things are still moving in.
Speaker 1: Today's top story in Hollywood is the studios are increasingly
Speaker 1: embracing live experiences as the film and TV landscape changes.
Speaker 1: And by saying by changes, I mean it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by live experiences?
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to that. Companies like Netflix, Warner Brothers, Discovery,
Speaker 1: and Paramount Global are expanding into hotels, themed restaurants, and
Speaker 1: attractions to build a stronger connection with the viewers. Netflix,
Speaker 1: for example, has seen over seventy marriage proposals at its
Speaker 1: Queen Ball. Have you heard of this? No, The Queen's
Speaker 1: Ball is a touring experience based on the hit show Bridgerton. Okay,
Speaker 1: the attractions business is booming. Sam companies like Walt Disney,
Speaker 1: Comcast and well Concast Universal Experiences division. They have the
Speaker 1: experienced division, you know, and they're investing heavily in new
Speaker 1: projects when like, no one's investing heavily into movie theaters
Speaker 1: or new new divisions to make more TV programs and
Speaker 1: hiring development executives. None of that's happening. They are expanding
Speaker 1: their immersive experiences departments, and you know, they're not all
Speaker 1: the six, but the trend reflects a broader strategy.
Speaker 2: I've seen them do similar things with Stranger Things and
Speaker 2: some of the other shows that've popped up on Netflix.
Speaker 2: It's something that's interesting. I think that's pretty cool. But
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of how many people and with
Speaker 2: like are into those shows and which shows they choose
Speaker 2: to make more immersive experiences with.
Speaker 1: Well, you're going to start with your hits and your
Speaker 1: Bridgerton's and you're you're, well, Netflix has you know, Netflix
Speaker 1: is making money like they People would say, oh, they
Speaker 1: just lose money over your No, a few years ago,
Speaker 1: they started making money. Now they make money. They're at
Speaker 1: the top. Everyone's trying to catch up. You might think
Speaker 1: that Disney Plus is making money, but they're not. But
Speaker 1: they are on Disney Plus, but they're you know why,
Speaker 1: they don't really need to because they've got so much
Speaker 1: money in their experiences. They started the experience business.
Speaker 2: That's the truth.
Speaker 1: So but this is why while you're wondering, like how
Speaker 1: long can the entertainment industry in these studios and these networks,
Speaker 1: how long can they continue? This just making really expensive
Speaker 1: TV shows that nobody watches, and the landscape is so
Speaker 1: blood blooded with with what they call content. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: so many programs on now that I got past I
Speaker 1: used to When I was a kid. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see everything. Yeah, and I was. And when the VCR
Speaker 1: came out, I was all happy because I could watch
Speaker 1: shows that were conflicting with other shows. Very happy about that,
Speaker 1: and you could watch everything. When I was a TV executive,
Speaker 1: it was expected. I actually had a class while it
Speaker 1: was a TV Business affairs executive. I took a there's
Speaker 1: extension courses over at UCLA on TV producing by the
Speaker 1: producer of Major Dad. Wow did I learn just I
Speaker 1: learned more in that one class than I did about
Speaker 1: anything that had to do with TV anywhere ever. And
Speaker 1: what he told me was watch it. Make sure you've
Speaker 1: seen one episode of every thing. Because when you're out
Speaker 1: at a party or you're out at a function and
Speaker 1: someone says, oh, yeah, I work on the Nanny and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I love the Nanny Friend Dresser, it's
Speaker 1: pretty good. I like the one care Even if you've
Speaker 1: only seen one episode, you can talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't you say it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I don't like sitcoms about with with you know, whiny
Speaker 1: women in them or whatever.
Speaker 2: You call it.
Speaker 1: I thought that was good. Next you don't matter if
Speaker 1: you like it or not. Make sure you've seen one episode.
Speaker 1: Now you can't. No, it's impossible and you can't, and
Speaker 1: there's just so much I don't care. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I have no fomo like or ooh I
Speaker 1: better watch this. People are talking about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so many shows. At some point you have
Speaker 2: to just give up the idea of being able to
Speaker 2: catch one episode of everything. And you know, you can't
Speaker 2: have fear of missing out on anything when there's such
Speaker 2: a gluttony of different content you can pick from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just don't even worry about it. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I'm watching YouTube that it sends me
Speaker 1: to YouTube because the YouTube I can pick. How long
Speaker 1: am I'm gonna watch a short or a twenty minute
Speaker 1: or thirty minute? Tim I'd look at it. What do
Speaker 1: I got time for? What do I feel like? How
Speaker 1: am of an appetite do I have? My latest thing
Speaker 1: is I'm addicted to videos about European pickpockets.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yes, Oh that's fascinating. You kind of I want
Speaker 2: to check that out. European pickpocket. I'm big on little
Speaker 2: YouTube videos. I kind of got stuck on a dog
Speaker 2: cleaning video and then I like rug cleaning videos.
Speaker 1: But those are two sere. But you're a mess.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I know, and I like watching people clean
Speaker 2: up messes. It's really nice.
Speaker 1: You know. The pickpocket videos are good. They've got guys
Speaker 1: running around catching pickpockets. I saw a guy walk follow
Speaker 1: these pickpockets in Rome for three hours until he forced
Speaker 1: them to get on a train and go out of town.
Speaker 2: You want to talk about immersive experiences, you can start
Speaker 2: building immersive experiences around stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You could go, this guy could lead a tour about
Speaker 1: you know, and I watch, We're going to catch pickpockets.
Speaker 1: Then we all pull out our phones and we pickpocket, pickpocket, pickpot,
Speaker 1: And that's what they do.
Speaker 2: A pickpocket tour of different towns of Europe. That'd be
Speaker 2: in Europe. That'd be hilarious.
Speaker 1: So I like that. And then I watch uh in
Speaker 1: tied old women getting pulled over by cops and turning
Speaker 1: a traffic ticket into a felony. Those are that's a genre.
Speaker 2: Those are brilliant. I love those too. You kind of get.
Speaker 2: You could doom scroll those for hours and just get
Speaker 2: a lot of good feeling out of it.
Speaker 1: My wife gave up scrolling for lent interesting. Yes, she's
Speaker 1: been very good at it's because she used.
Speaker 2: It's become that much a part of our lives now.
Speaker 2: More immersive experiences as far as like TV shows and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like I would I want to imagine
Speaker 2: like a Game of Thrones immersive experience where they come
Speaker 2: and kill your entire family while you watch it, and
Speaker 2: then they kill you.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of trying to hire people to kill your family,
Speaker 1: I've got a story coming up about a certain ghost
Speaker 1: hunter and his wife who put a hit on him,
Speaker 1: and then this story takes a dark twist. Joe Ascalante
Speaker 1: Live from Hollywood. Let's check the traffic. Joe's go on
Speaker 1: say live from Hollywood if by Hollywood you mean Burbank
Speaker 1: and h In the last UH segment, we were talking
Speaker 1: about how the Hollywood studios are embracing live experiences and
Speaker 1: the Bridgerton touring Queen's Ball that people over seventy proposals.
Speaker 1: Two of those in the the event they have They've
Speaker 1: had over seventy marriage proposals so far, two of those
Speaker 1: were opposite sex proposals. So there that that number is
Speaker 1: looks to grow in the coming year. Maybe there's a
Speaker 1: guy on Instagram that that that talks about poor people
Speaker 1: and how he's different than poor people, and he calls
Speaker 1: the poor people povos. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: this guy. I don't even know his name, but his
Speaker 1: povos do this. But I don't do that because I'm
Speaker 1: not a povo. You're not a povo. You do this,
Speaker 1: you do that, And he has a said if you're
Speaker 1: if you're rich, you you decorate. You recreate the Bridgerton
Speaker 1: series in your frigid reader and it's called the Fridgerton.
Speaker 1: So if you look up Fridgerton on Instagram, you'll you'll
Speaker 1: find that. And I mean you look at his frigerator,
Speaker 1: it's all like, you know, louis the fourteenth mini furniture
Speaker 1: in there and something like that. Anyway, have you heard
Speaker 1: of reality TV personality Aaron Goodwin. No, it's known from
Speaker 1: the Ghost Adventure show.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've actually I think I saw the story. This
Speaker 2: is fascinating.
Speaker 1: His wife, Victoria Goodwin, has been arrested on a charge
Speaker 1: of solicitation to commit murder, a murder most foul sam Yes,
Speaker 1: and authorities alleged she attempted to hire a hitman to
Speaker 1: kill him Afforny to reports, Victoria Goodwin was communicating with
Speaker 1: an inmate in Florida, Hmmm like I'm getting tiger seriously, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: discussing plans to have her husband killed. Text messages revealed
Speaker 1: discussions about payment and details regarding Aaron's location and his schedule.
Speaker 1: He'll be at this hunted house on this day, you
Speaker 1: get it. Police reports indicate that she made statements that
Speaker 1: she wanted to end his existence instead of getting a divorce.
Speaker 1: Aaron Goodwin has filed for divorce. Since I mean that
Speaker 1: this just happened. This is like March sixth he found
Speaker 1: out about this. The reports indicate that the couple was
Speaker 1: having marital problems, but Victoria Goodwin at some point denied
Speaker 1: that she truly wanted to have her husband killed. She
Speaker 1: was saying it was just like fantasy talk. Oh come on,
Speaker 1: and she's she had a hearing a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago and they tried to lower her bail and they
Speaker 1: would not lower bail. So she's in a jail in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas where they live.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 1: So first, you know, how you know a lot of couples,
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're married, you got different couples
Speaker 1: and you kind of like, oh, these couples are nice,
Speaker 1: and do you want to hang out with them? This
Speaker 1: couple is one of my friends from the from the
Speaker 1: club I belong to, really you know them personal? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: hanging out with them all the time. And it's weird
Speaker 1: because I had a premonition about this because I was
Speaker 1: watching one of these hitman cases. I'm like, there's so
Speaker 1: many of these woman hires a man to kill her husband.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this there's so many? Is any
Speaker 1: Is this ever gonna happen to someone I know? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think about the couples I know. And
Speaker 1: then about two days later, this this, this came up
Speaker 1: in the news. I'm not kidding you, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: there it is, Joe, there it is. Are you happy?
Speaker 1: So these two you.
Speaker 2: Brought seriously you willed it into.
Speaker 1: Being or maybe I just knew that it was happening
Speaker 1: because it had been going on since last October is
Speaker 1: when she started solicitating this thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's been happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so since from October until now, the cops have
Speaker 1: been following her. Yeah, they've they've been. They knew it
Speaker 1: was she was planning to do this, so they did
Speaker 1: not tell the husband. Why because they wanted to get
Speaker 1: her to make that overt act where she sets it
Speaker 1: in motion where it could happen. And the the overt
Speaker 1: act seems to be when she said she called. At
Speaker 1: one point, she's already given him the locations where he's
Speaker 1: going to be, and she texted because she's a genius, uh,
Speaker 1: to the guys in charge. I think it was a
Speaker 1: guy in jail was going to hire someone in the
Speaker 1: outside and she texted him saying, hey, you know what's
Speaker 1: going on over there? Has it? Has it been done yet?
Speaker 1: I think that was it where they said, okay, then
Speaker 1: you expected it to be done? You no going back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Victoria, you know this, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a black mark on the club, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you. And it's a black mark on These people
Speaker 1: were married at Disneyland. So if you I think I
Speaker 1: saw the picture of them, the Ghostbuster gets married to Disneyland.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know my feeling about this is, you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron's a great guy. I mean, we were a little
Speaker 1: suspect of her. You know, it's wunny you get the
Speaker 1: vibe be like, you know, let's not I was not
Speaker 1: invited to the wedding, but our other Like there's six
Speaker 1: of us that hang out this club together, and there's
Speaker 1: a few more, but like six that you know when
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out this other couple. The other couple got
Speaker 1: invited to the wedding. Sandra and I did not, and
Speaker 1: we weren't hurt. We were actually pleased because you know.
Speaker 2: They wanted to stay in I'm guessing you can.
Speaker 1: Want to go to that wedding. I thought there was something.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd break up. I just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: they you know, their behavior was a little suspect. He's
Speaker 1: a sweetheart, though, but I believe he's when you're on
Speaker 1: the Ghostbusters, they're a little too vulnerable. If you believe
Speaker 1: that the devil exists, which which is most of the
Speaker 1: people in America, if most people are Christian. Jesus mentions
Speaker 1: the devil over and over and over again in the Bible.
Speaker 1: So I say that because I know some people might
Speaker 1: think I'm being silly, But if you believe in Christianity
Speaker 1: at all, there is also the devil, and the devil
Speaker 1: is able to possess people. And the way the devil
Speaker 1: possesses people is by having a way in, because the
Speaker 1: devil wants to ruin people's lives and he wants to
Speaker 1: spread Satanism and ruin people's you know, dedication to Christ
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's what the devil wants to do. So
Speaker 1: the devil gets in there. How does the devil get
Speaker 1: in there? You have to let him in. So these
Speaker 1: people are I think they're working in these ghost things
Speaker 1: and there's a little satanism and dark stuff. They're in
Speaker 1: danger of letting them in. And this is a very
Speaker 1: appropriate theme for the Aaron in Victoria. Pray for these people, really,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really sad story. I get jokes
Speaker 1: of it because I need something to talk about here,
Speaker 1: But pray for Aaron and Victoria. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. Why Hollywood, you mean Burbank. That's
Speaker 1: where we are. It's two hours of the business end
Speaker 1: of show business. We do it every Sunday on k
Speaker 1: e IB eleven fifty on your AM dial. And now
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Oh, I have a couple a little
Speaker 1: bit of inside scoop on the on the Aaron Goodwin
Speaker 1: and Victoria Goodwin case where Victoria Goodwin has evidently hired
Speaker 1: a hitman to kill her husband so she married at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: The stories are saying that she was going to pay
Speaker 1: eleven thousand dollars for this. I think she made some deposits,
Speaker 1: and then of course people are saying eleven thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: what a cheap, nasty you know what. But the real
Speaker 1: story I'm hearing from better sources is it was forty thousand.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that sounds like a more appropriate sum. You
Speaker 2: don't want to for today's economy. Yeah, forty thousand seems okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you don't want to overpay, like you
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't do it for lesson Oh of course,
Speaker 1: but a guy that's sitting in prison, you know, and
Speaker 1: he can, like he can pay a guy twenty to
Speaker 1: do it and he gets twenty. You know, these people
Speaker 1: are they don't have the same means that you and
Speaker 1: I do or enjoy our lives.
Speaker 2: But still, I mean, even if I'm in prison in
Speaker 2: today's economy, I'm going for at least twenty eleven thousand.
Speaker 2: That's ninety that's friction.
Speaker 1: That's you know, yeah, and that's why it's the story
Speaker 1: sounded didn't sound that believable, and it sounds like there's
Speaker 1: something wrong here, and that is wrong. It's forty thousand dollars, especially.
Speaker 2: For something as high profile as this.
Speaker 1: Well, especially a guy who's a celebrity. I have walked
Speaker 1: around Disneyland with this guy, and you can't go fifty
Speaker 1: feet without a young child asking for his autograph. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's always got a smile on his face. He's
Speaker 1: he's the guy on the show that they like to
Speaker 1: get him really scared and his eyes bug out and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It seems like a really, really nice guy.
Speaker 1: He didn't deserve this.
Speaker 2: This is unfortunate.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's without sin, but he didn't deserve this. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So pray for you. And she's in jail.
Speaker 1: She wants to get out. She's stuck there. Now, what
Speaker 1: about movies. Let's go back to the pleasure of movies.
Speaker 1: I like to go to the theater, and I want
Speaker 1: you to go to the movies.
Speaker 2: So did you go to a movie theater? In Brazil
Speaker 2: by any.
Speaker 1: No, but I did see a cinemak really and I
Speaker 1: saw one in Costa Rica and I saw one in Rio.
Speaker 1: Cool so they but they're not really connected to my card,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what would happen if I get
Speaker 1: any points going there. But the big movie there is
Speaker 1: I'm Still Here, which won Best Foreign Film at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: It's a Brazilian movie.
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.
Speaker 1: And on my flight into Rio, they made an announcement
Speaker 1: that said the producer, the Oscar winner was on the
Speaker 1: flight with us. What wow. Yeah. And then on my
Speaker 1: way my last night there, I took a cab. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not really a cab these days. I mean, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Sam, the travel was sublime is It's
Speaker 1: first class.
Speaker 2: And I would really hate to hear that you're just,
Speaker 2: you know, slubbing it around the world with these guys.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's a very successful outfit. Bulletproof oh, vans, okay,
Speaker 1: bulletproof in the vans and arm guards.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: So they got guns and then you have you seem
Speaker 1: like when you go to fly from place to place,
Speaker 1: you gotta wait for them to get their gun out
Speaker 1: of the special gun receptacle. Got some guy brings it in.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of exciting cool. But on the last day,
Speaker 1: we had a driver go to take us to the
Speaker 1: Corcovado Mountain where sugar Loaf is. It's a tram thing.
Speaker 1: It's everyone's got to do it. I've done before when
Speaker 1: I was a younger man. But and then she said, hey.
Speaker 1: We asked her, Hey, do you like the movie? Uh,
Speaker 1: this is us? Oh no, it's not this is us.
Speaker 1: It's I'm still here. Yeah, she's no, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Like really, it's like seems to be the biggest thing
Speaker 1: in the whole country. Everyone's proud one the best worn film.
Speaker 1: First time, Brazil's everyone best worn film. And she says, well,
Speaker 1: it's not that this movie bothers me, but the producers
Speaker 1: have been telling lies.
Speaker 2: Interest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it turns out my driver was a fan
Speaker 1: of the former president Balsonaro. Okay, and Balsonaro it's the
Speaker 1: same thing as Trump and Biden.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This guy they have now is a Biden and he
Speaker 1: was in prison when on election day, but they voted
Speaker 1: for him anyway. Somehow he got elected anyway. Okay, and
Speaker 1: they're very suspect of the election. But Balsonaro was more
Speaker 1: like a Trump, but he was making enemies, you know,
Speaker 1: and reducing the size of the government and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And so they he got voted out of office. And
Speaker 1: I guess the producers of course they like the lefty.
Speaker 1: It's Hollywood. And then so the right wing driver hated
Speaker 1: the movie, and so she wasn't gonna watch it, but
Speaker 1: she did drive us by the location where it was
Speaker 1: filmed and stuff like that. Interesting, she wasn't, you know, bitter.
Speaker 1: But anyway, what's going on down there? And movies that
Speaker 1: are raging the box office right now? Number one Mickey seventeen.
Speaker 1: And this this is about a uh dead cycles. It's
Speaker 1: the guy who made squid Games or something like that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's about like you can get a job being
Speaker 1: a dead body or being a body that dies and
Speaker 1: gets rejuvenated and you just keep dying all the time,
Speaker 1: but you keep your memories. So yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a squid game type thing. It's number one.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Number three is Black Bag and it's a spy thriller.
Speaker 2: What what was the movie that we skipped because we
Speaker 2: went from one to three.
Speaker 1: M Black Bag was three. Number one is oh sorry,
Speaker 1: novacane novak number one. Number two is Mickey seventeen. Thank
Speaker 1: you for correcting me.
Speaker 2: Novakane sounds fascinating. I saw the trailer for it the
Speaker 2: other day, and I was really intrigued this it's a
Speaker 2: guy who can feel no pain. Yeah, and that just
Speaker 2: blows my mind.
Speaker 1: See, I had the opposite effect on me.
Speaker 2: You were not turned on by this idea. No.
Speaker 1: I saw the trailer so many times as I go
Speaker 1: to the movie so much. I've seen it about four
Speaker 1: or five times. I just saw this one so many posters,
Speaker 1: and then it's just like, Okay, I get it. He
Speaker 1: can't feel pain, So there's all these scenarios where he's
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt and it doesn't matter because he can't
Speaker 1: feel pain. I get it. The trailer seems to tell
Speaker 1: too much of the story, and that's always suspecting me.
Speaker 1: If you tell me too much about the story, it
Speaker 1: means the movie's not good, and you're trying to, like
Speaker 1: any throwing anything at me to get me in the
Speaker 1: theater before people find out it's no good.
Speaker 2: I get the feeling. It's just one of those action
Speaker 2: movies that's gonna be fun on a big screen but
Speaker 2: has no real depth as far as the story goes.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like a fun concept at the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, how about a guy who feels no
Speaker 2: pain and we just throw him into a bunch of
Speaker 2: random dangerous situations where anybody else who feels pain their
Speaker 2: bodies would tell them to get out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 2: So yeah. So it's sounds like a good springtime, cheesy
Speaker 2: action movie.
Speaker 1: No urgency for me to see this, but we'll find
Speaker 1: out next week whether it's any good or not. Number
Speaker 1: four is Captain America. Number five The Day the Earth
Speaker 1: Blew Up a Looney Tunes movie.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 1: Did you see it? Or you just saw I saw it?
Speaker 2: I know I saw Okay, I wish I saw it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I am going to see that.
Speaker 1: One, okay. And then number six a little more serious,
Speaker 1: The Last Supper, a.
Speaker 2: Little more serious, The Day the Earth Blew Up versus
Speaker 2: The Last Supper.
Speaker 1: Number seven Paddington in Peru. That one was it was
Speaker 1: the original concept for this one was Paddington and his
Speaker 1: Peruvian marching Powder, but that was derailed when Cocaine Bear
Speaker 1: came out and they just said, we can't we we
Speaker 1: can't go with this. Number eight dog Man, number nine
Speaker 1: monkey not a monkey man or anything, just straight up monkey,
Speaker 1: the monkey. And number ten Last Breath. I hope that's
Speaker 1: not good because the bad Breath headlines and the critics
Speaker 1: reviews of that are you know, just going to bury it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Mickey seventeen strong showing still doing well is
Speaker 1: Captain America and uh and Novacane did really well and
Speaker 1: people people like it. And so the most anticipated movies
Speaker 1: coming up? Do we have any time? We have a
Speaker 1: little bit bit more time home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got time. Uh.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a movie. I don't know if you've if
Speaker 1: you've heard of this movie, Batman Versus the Yakuza.
Speaker 2: This sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: I heard of it. No, I mean to me, I
Speaker 1: thought you would be all over it. It's called Batman
Speaker 1: Ninja Versus Yakuza League. Okay, it's it's animation and people
Speaker 1: are talking about but how far have we come when
Speaker 1: little kids can can watch cartoons about a deadly, sadistic,
Speaker 1: murderous like force of life in Japan, the Yakuza? Why
Speaker 1: is that funny to kids? Why is that entertainment?
Speaker 2: Well, it's not so much funny. It's Batman, that's a
Speaker 2: ninja going after those scary guys.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you're right about that. But then why
Speaker 1: is the ya kaza so weak now that you can
Speaker 1: just make movies Batman beating their ass. No, the Yakuza's
Speaker 1: got they've got to step up.
Speaker 2: Well, the Yakuza has definitely been the subject of a
Speaker 2: lot of different movies and also video games where there
Speaker 2: are people who are who come from the depths of
Speaker 2: the Yakuza to defeat them. Well, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the another appropriate comparison would be
Speaker 2: like if there are video games or movies talking about
Speaker 2: going after cartels. Yeah, because if that's the case, I
Speaker 2: mean usually that when we see that kind of movie
Speaker 2: or video game action, the people who make them don't
Speaker 2: say speak very much longer after it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes they die, Yeah, and seriously. But with the Yakuza,
Speaker 1: I have heard that they've been getting more and more
Speaker 1: like into regular businesses and and kind of cleaning up
Speaker 1: their act in Japan. I did hear that. And then
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen years ago, I was at a dinner. The
Speaker 1: Vandals were signed to some Japanese label, and we're at
Speaker 1: to dinner with the president of the label, and and
Speaker 1: so you know, we order our drinks to sit down. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to talk to business. And he goes, U, Joe,
Speaker 1: we are a Yakuza company and we have many interests,
Speaker 1: but Chinko games blah blah blah. And I'm like, did
Speaker 1: that guy just say he's a yakuza company? So blurt?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine I am a yakuza company.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine someone blurting out we were owned by
Speaker 1: the mob or you know, we're the Gambino family that
Speaker 1: owns this record label. I just want to let you
Speaker 1: know you didn't have to tell me that. I never
Speaker 1: would have guessed. What would I know? Can you tell
Speaker 1: me the very first meeting we're a Yakuzac company, so
Speaker 1: things are different over there.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the you know, that level of clarity that
Speaker 2: they offer to you.
Speaker 1: Then he cut off my finger, which part of it,
Speaker 1: but he smelled it first, and that was you know,
Speaker 1: all right, that was that's not funny.
Speaker 2: Let's go to break, all right.
Speaker 1: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: continuing here and k E I B eleven fifty and
Speaker 1: your am dial and Uh, let's talk about a little
Speaker 1: bit about the movies I saw sam because you know,
Speaker 1: I keep my diary over letterboxed. Yeah, letterboxed is the
Speaker 1: it's kind of the friends there for movie going. Did
Speaker 1: you have a friendster?
Speaker 2: I did not have a friend kind of nerd. Were
Speaker 2: you not a good one?
Speaker 1: I guess? So now you have one? Now I think
Speaker 1: it's like a Filipino gaming app.
Speaker 2: Now friends game, a Filipino game idea. That's funny.
Speaker 1: Now, Uh, there I did. I was, you know, I was.
Speaker 1: I've been gone most of the most of the last month.
Speaker 1: I've been gone in South South America and Central America.
Speaker 1: But I did madden managed to squeeze in a few movies.
Speaker 1: And did you say them? Did you see anything?
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of movies that I had already seen.
Speaker 2: I had gone through and just recycled some old classics
Speaker 2: that I wanted to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's good to do. I was three of
Speaker 1: the world. Oh things like that. I was on a
Speaker 1: flight Copa Airlines, the great airline.
Speaker 2: I think it took you to Brazil.
Speaker 1: Take on the way back Panama and he stops in
Speaker 1: Panama City and a really great airline, really modern and
Speaker 1: very nice, lie down seats all that stuff. But they
Speaker 1: had the worst movies I've ever seen on a plane.
Speaker 1: They were terrible. They were terrible, and no internet for
Speaker 1: like twenty hours.
Speaker 2: That's sad.
Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of the weekend, so I felt like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got a break, I'm going to watch these movies. Oh,
Speaker 1: these movies are terrible. So I started. I got a
Speaker 1: rot of reading done in my book. Okay, okay, But
Speaker 1: as far as movies go, I think the last movie
Speaker 1: I talked about on the show is Paddington and Peru.
Speaker 1: And but I saw a movie that I'm just gonna recommend.
Speaker 1: Movie I've seen before many times. But if you were
Speaker 1: born in the sixties, you got to revisit Alice Doesn't
Speaker 1: Live Here Anymore, or if you're one of those people
Speaker 1: that has a little nostalgia for the seventies, Alice Doesn't
Speaker 1: Live Here Anymore is a It's quite a gym. Jody
Speaker 1: Foster's in it, okay. And Ellen Burston you might know
Speaker 1: her as the Mom and the Exorcist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been in quite a few things.
Speaker 1: And Chris Christofferson is like the Hunk, a young Harvey
Speaker 1: kai Tel, a young Diane lad and a little just
Speaker 1: a little, little, tiny Jody Foster, like a twelve year
Speaker 1: old young Jody Foster. Yeah, and she's amazing in it,
Speaker 1: and the move it, the music is wonderful. It's Martin
Speaker 1: Scorsese film before he went crazy. And uh so I
Speaker 1: recommend that highly to people who like to have me
Speaker 1: recommend movies for them. Alice doesn't live here anymore. I
Speaker 1: saw on the plane I watched a real pain and
Speaker 1: I've watched you know, I've seen all the Oscar nominees.
Speaker 1: I've seen every one of them, but I haven't seen
Speaker 1: all the ones for the actors and the actresses maybe,
Speaker 1: but I think this one was the a gap I
Speaker 1: had to fill. And it's by the story of two
Speaker 1: Jews that go to Poland and one returns with an Oscar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it really, seriously, it only takes about two minutes
Speaker 1: before you say to yourself, keran cocaine is going to
Speaker 1: get an Oscar for this. It takes about two minutes, really,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my lord, I mean that must
Speaker 1: have not been hard. Then I looked at all the nominations,
Speaker 1: not not not great competition, and nothing, nothing compared, None
Speaker 1: of these other performances compared to the and but they
Speaker 1: gave him the best supporting Oscar, which it seems like
Speaker 1: he's the lead. If you look at the movie poster,
Speaker 1: he's even like, you know, right there in the poster,
Speaker 1: he's even in front of Jesse Eisenberg. So who's the
Speaker 1: lead here? He got two leads? But I think they
Speaker 1: can pick if they can say no, I think this
Speaker 1: is supporting, and they enter that way when they when
Speaker 1: they submit. So someone who's really smart, because he didn't
Speaker 1: have to compete with Adrian Brody. But yeah, too bad.
Speaker 1: He didn't beat Adrian Brodie because the oscars would have
Speaker 1: been thirty minutes shorter. So it's a good movie. It's
Speaker 1: a very good movie. And so I recommend it one
Speaker 1: hundred percent just to see Karan Colkin. It's either he's
Speaker 1: either an amazing actor or or this is the kind
Speaker 1: of you know person he is, and he's the disorders
Speaker 1: that he has.
Speaker 2: He's an incredible actor though a lot of he's really
Speaker 2: over the last three or four years, coming to his own.
Speaker 2: He had all the pretty big, big shadow of an
Speaker 2: of an older brother that he had to step out of.
Speaker 1: I squashed him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now, he's like, I'm nothing makes it so
Speaker 2: you can step out of a sibling shadow bigger more
Speaker 2: than an oscar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You wiped the floor of his little brother,
Speaker 1: who was a little brother's okay, so much to check
Speaker 1: on him, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I think he was very proud of him.
Speaker 2: He was quite happy. They still hang out. I think
Speaker 2: they went to a wrestling event together.
Speaker 1: Okay, because if I went an oscar, I would never
Speaker 1: talk to my brother again. So I don't need you kidding.
Speaker 1: I talked to him this morning at church. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have an oscar yet.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: Then you say, why are you always polishing it? Then
Speaker 1: that's terrible. Why would you say that? Now? I saw
Speaker 1: a one of the nominees for Best Documentary yesterday, soundtrack
Speaker 1: to a Coup d'etas. I don't know if you're like me,
Speaker 1: Sam and you have Congo fever, but I have it
Speaker 1: and I can't get enough Congo documentaries, Congo podcasts, and
Speaker 1: Congo anything. The Congo is a fascinating place in Africa.
Speaker 1: And if you watch soundtrack to a Coup d'tas, they
Speaker 1: they're fusing jazz greats and they're in they're the intertwining
Speaker 1: into a a story about the struggle for Congo Lee's independence.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about it maybe in
Speaker 1: the top of the next hour, because it's that important. Sam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Congo Next hot place. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Joe'sclante Live from Hollywood, playing you the new This has
Speaker 1: taken over as the from the YMCA as Trump's new
Speaker 1: theme song at his rallies. And when he does that
Speaker 1: dance to it, you know he's in Putin's pocket. They're
Speaker 1: bonding over different things now. Oh yeah, yeah, that music.
Speaker 1: They both love that song.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a universal anthem.
Speaker 1: It really is a jam. I bet if Trump heard that,
Speaker 1: he would probably say, let's throw that in me the
Speaker 1: throw throw a bone too, Putin over there, give him
Speaker 1: something he likes. And then uh, World War three started?
Speaker 1: All right? Anything happened while I was out of the country.
Speaker 2: No, nothing significant, nothing major?
Speaker 1: Okay, good, We're okay, all right? Good. H the celebrities,
Speaker 1: the bad celebrities. Oh wait, I was just still going
Speaker 1: to talk about soundtrack to a Cooty Ta, which I
Speaker 1: just I can't recommend enough. It's on Amazon's I think
Speaker 1: you could cast you five dollars or if you wait
Speaker 1: five minutes, cause it's probably probably be free. But so
Speaker 1: they're taking jazz like people like Dizzy Gillespie. Did you
Speaker 1: know Dizzy Gillespie trumpet player? Yes, ran for president? Really yeah,
Speaker 1: well see what happened with those giant cheeks? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: the cheeks and and everything. Yeah, they all went and
Speaker 1: it's rusty tombone everything the government sent. The message of
Speaker 1: this movie is like, the government sends a bunch of
Speaker 1: jazz grades on like an ambassador tour, like you know,
Speaker 1: the Ambassadors of Goodwill? Quick, who are the Ambassadors of Goodwill?
Speaker 1: Whose nickname is that what outfit wrong? The Harlem Globetrotters,
Speaker 1: the Ambassadors of good Will. But they sent the all
Speaker 1: these jazz grades. Hello Dolly Guy Satchmo, oh yeah, Louis,
Speaker 1: they sent him, They sent Dizzy Gillespie and they were
Speaker 1: just gone a tour playing for these African nations and
Speaker 1: that was seemed pretty cool. And then the message of
Speaker 1: the movies, yeah, but behind the scenes they were applotting
Speaker 1: to you know, some takeovers and assassinations and regime changes
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff like the CIA does
Speaker 1: behind our backs. And I used to be a kind
Speaker 1: of a guy that was like, they would never do that.
Speaker 1: These are great Americans. But the more I think it's
Speaker 1: the podcasts that are poisoning my mind. I'm listening to
Speaker 1: so many podcasts. I'm now afraid of the CIA, And
Speaker 1: there's a podcast about the Congo. It's a harmless one.
Speaker 1: It's just the history of the Congo and how it
Speaker 1: was created by the King of Belgium. King of Belgium, Leopold,
Speaker 1: he wanted his own country or his own colony. All
Speaker 1: the other Europeans had all their colonies, so he was
Speaker 1: looking around and he found an easy target and it
Speaker 1: was the Congo. So he makes this colony and then
Speaker 1: it goes the way colonies go is like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's your halves and your have nots and your whites
Speaker 1: and you're not whites. And then after a while they
Speaker 1: want their independence and then you gotta deal with it.
Speaker 1: And I think the the message was that, you know,
Speaker 1: they gave them their independence, but then they created a
Speaker 1: like kudital like right like within months. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: what the real problem is they found uranium, all the
Speaker 1: uranium that there was that was being used to make
Speaker 1: the bombs that we had and and and this is
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and we're we're in a war, cold
Speaker 1: war with the Soviet Union, and we're about to lose
Speaker 1: the place where we get our uranium for our bombs.
Speaker 2: Oh great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean even if you were I mean, you
Speaker 1: were a fairly uh progressive guy, Sam, but I think
Speaker 1: even you would would start to think about, what is
Speaker 1: there something we can do to keep that uranium from
Speaker 1: falling into the hands of Khrushchev.
Speaker 2: Khrushchev or you know, Komani or any.
Speaker 1: Of yes, any of something that we can do. But
Speaker 1: what the so what that looks like what the West
Speaker 1: did is they were just like you know, the Cias
Speaker 1: and the Belgian behind the scenes are trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how are we going to get this uranium. So
Speaker 1: it's that's basically the backstories the uranium, although they don't
Speaker 1: really say that's the whole story. It's more like the
Speaker 1: movie is telling you it's a fight for freedom, and
Speaker 1: the people in the West don't want these people to
Speaker 1: really be free, and that that part's not really true.
Speaker 1: They want him to be free, but they got to
Speaker 1: have that uranium. They gotta have it. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just got to have that stuff. And and who's at
Speaker 1: the UN telling the whole world that the United States
Speaker 1: is being a rotten jerk for not for for backing
Speaker 1: these regime changes. Well it's cruise Chef. He's like saying,
Speaker 1: they're the America is awful. They're awful people. He wants
Speaker 1: the uranium, you know, so everybody's awful, all right, but
Speaker 1: we want our uranium because we got to have our bombs,
Speaker 1: because we got to fight the Cold War. Luckily we won,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we got our uranium. I think I haven't
Speaker 1: I don't know what happen after this movie. But but
Speaker 1: the jazz in the movie is first rate, and the
Speaker 1: footage that you've never seen of not just jazz, but
Speaker 1: weird stuff such azz that's a weird stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: just like all of a sudden they show it's some
Speaker 1: beds spinning around in the air, and you don't know
Speaker 1: how that. I mean, just weird stuff. They cut too.
Speaker 1: They cut the jajaga Boor talking about how she loves pipes.
Speaker 2: Interesting, and then some guys.
Speaker 1: Just now and then they then there's like then they
Speaker 1: got some poet going you know. Uh, sometimes a pipe
Speaker 1: is a picture of a pipe is not a pipe,
Speaker 1: and sometimes a pipe is not a pipe, and then
Speaker 1: they go then they cut to a guy saying, we are,
Speaker 1: of course not involved in any regime change. In fact,
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. And then you're supposed to take from
Speaker 1: that like, oh, when is a pipe not a pipe?
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's a pipe, but they're saying it's
Speaker 1: not a pipe, but it's a pipe. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just all this. Sometimes the bigar is not a cigar,
Speaker 1: right exactly. So anyway, soundtrack to a coupdata recommended highly.
Speaker 1: And then what else did I see? Oh, then there's
Speaker 1: some dark, dark viewing that I did. Sam, I'm in
Speaker 1: the on the plane. I'd push a button in the
Speaker 1: Cope Airlines. I told you Cope Airlines is the worst
Speaker 1: movies in the world. And I push a button that
Speaker 1: says classics. Okay, I'll watch Roman Holiday or Casablanca, those
Speaker 1: usually sitting around in these classic sections in the American Airlines,
Speaker 1: and it says Arthur classics.
Speaker 2: Ah, Arthur, hey, all right here it comes doudly more action.
Speaker 2: All right. So you think some horrible watch a man
Speaker 2: go into cirrhosis.
Speaker 1: How about a twenty eleven remake of Arthur. Oh no,
Speaker 1: not that one with Russell Brand. Oh goodness, not so
Speaker 1: young Helen Mirren And they really made you watch that,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner, did you have a did you have like
Speaker 1: options you could pick from? Well? I already picked that one,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like, I'm so mad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not a class. You put that into any other category?
Speaker 1: But not classic?
Speaker 2: Why was that in classic?
Speaker 1: Because the Panamanians have they're not they're not that civilized yet.
Speaker 2: Move that movie just washed up on the shore.
Speaker 1: I guess. So yeah, just washed up and wow, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: blown away by it. I mean, Russell Brand is very talented,
Speaker 1: and Helen Mirren is a you know, a star, a
Speaker 1: star beyond you know, we don't deserve Helen Mirren in
Speaker 1: most movies, but in this abortion they couldn't save it.
Speaker 2: No, Oh, you're right. That is dark viewing.
Speaker 1: Watch the whole thing. And then I just gave up
Speaker 1: and watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows Part one,
Speaker 1: knowing I wouldn't even have time to get to part two. No,
Speaker 1: but that's a way to fall asleep. Harry Potter and
Speaker 1: the Deathly Hallow's Part one. You will go to sleep,
Speaker 1: So I got some sleep.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: So uh, I don't recommend. I recommend bringing your own
Speaker 1: movies if you're on COPA airlines. And I think I've
Speaker 1: got some television news here. This is like who cares?
Speaker 1: But the Bachelor showrunners are all quitting. Evidently there's so
Speaker 1: much stress and hostile work environment on The Bachelor that
Speaker 1: they are you know, everyone's fighting back and forth in
Speaker 1: the two showrunners, Claire Freeland and Bennett Grabner, they're gone.
Speaker 1: And this is after Mike Flies, the creator of the show,
Speaker 1: he had to leave a couple of years ago because
Speaker 1: he had some you know, accusations that weren't very cool.
Speaker 1: And if you remember Mike Flies, you know who his
Speaker 1: sister is. No, not that one really, Yeah, Heidi Flyes
Speaker 1: is the Madam. He is a guy who thought of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, and wow, that means he gets Bachelorette, gets
Speaker 1: you know, the Bachelor, Golden Bachelor. So he left, but
Speaker 1: he's still making money off all those shows.
Speaker 2: That's funny. Yeah, it's amazing he didn't just come up
Speaker 2: with one called the Madam.
Speaker 1: Oh that's too close to home. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a break and uh and for all you people
Speaker 1: that were mad that they made that movie called The
Speaker 1: Apprentice and released it right before the election to try
Speaker 1: to ruin there to be one more nail in the
Speaker 1: in the Donald Trump coffin election interference, whatever you wanted
Speaker 1: to call it. You were so mad. I've got some
Speaker 1: good news for you that I will reveal after the
Speaker 1: break when we check traffic on k e IB eleven
Speaker 1: to fifty am. This is Joe's Goalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Joe's Galante Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood, you mean, by
Speaker 1: make now Gene Hackman one of the greatest actors of
Speaker 1: our times.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Hackman movie? I like Crimson Tide. No,
Speaker 2: I like na.
Speaker 1: Hoosiers, that great French connection, Oh yeah, and the Conversation.
Speaker 2: I like that one. Also Enemy of the State one
Speaker 2: of his better performances later on in life. Really like that.
Speaker 1: And a great Blank twin eighty two album. Yes, well
Speaker 1: that was Enema of the State.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember when when the Vandals were We're coming out
Speaker 1: this record, and I was like, I wanted to title
Speaker 1: it Hitler bad, Vandals good. And then our singer, you know,
Speaker 1: he was like a little worried, like you know what
Speaker 1: people sometimes associate punk rock nazisy skinheads. We don't wonder
Speaker 1: would be having the word Hitler on our record. Just
Speaker 1: don't want it. I go missus Hitler bad. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but we don't want it. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: was very disappointed. And then we're on a plane to
Speaker 1: Australia with Blankuin eighty two to go do some shows
Speaker 1: over there. And then I told them what we were
Speaker 1: going to call it, and the new title I didn't
Speaker 1: want to say because we changed to something very and
Speaker 1: you know safe. I'm so bears, I can't even say it.
Speaker 1: And then they said, you're calling it that, and like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I told them what the other title was, and
Speaker 1: they got so excited. They said they were going to
Speaker 1: call their album blinkwin AITI two Hitler bad, Blankwinity too good,
Speaker 1: and I told then they told their singer thank you,
Speaker 1: and then you had to change the part screw those guys,
Speaker 1: and we're taking it. So we took it, so thank
Speaker 1: you Blakuinity too. That was their best selling album, and
Speaker 1: then they called their next record I think was like
Speaker 1: Enema of the State or take Take Off Your Pants
Speaker 1: and Jacket. That was another one of theirs, and we
Speaker 1: we we and then they told us that and we're friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more like take off your pants and rip off the vandals?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why don't you? And then that was right
Speaker 1: about when the Rancid came out with their record and
Speaker 1: out come the Gerbils. Well that wasn't really the title anyway.
Speaker 1: How did we get on this.
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman? So Gene Hackman, we went from Hackman to Gerbils?
Speaker 1: Thanks you, okay? Well. The mystery surrounding the deaths of
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Atta Kawa has deepened.
Speaker 1: Sam While authorities initially reported that Arakawa died from the
Speaker 1: huntavirus on February eleventh, a doctor has come forward claiming
Speaker 1: that Arakawa called his clinic on February twelfth. So she
Speaker 1: called the day before she died, a day after the
Speaker 1: reported death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after she called after she died.
Speaker 1: It's a miracle. The doctor stated she was calling to
Speaker 1: reschedule an appointment and showed no signs of respiratory distress.
Speaker 1: This contradicts the medical examiner's report and raises questions about
Speaker 1: the timeline of events, and also raises questions about any
Speaker 1: medical examiner and how the hell do they know anything.
Speaker 1: The couple's bodies were found with their Santa Fe home,
Speaker 1: you remember, and Hackman passed away from heart failure and
Speaker 1: complications from Alzheimer's. Adding to the complexity, Hackman's will reportedly
Speaker 1: leaves to his estate to Ada Kawa. This is another problem.
Speaker 1: He heard of this problem.
Speaker 2: Yes, if she died first.
Speaker 1: Yes. Uncertainty surrounds the eighty million dollars state of the
Speaker 1: Hackmans or gene Hackmans. Reports indicate that Hackman's will leaves
Speaker 1: his entire fortune to his recently deceased wife, that's the
Speaker 1: Ata Kawa. But she's dead, with no mention of his
Speaker 1: three children. But let me think about this. You got
Speaker 1: three kids, I got eight million dollars. I'm giving it
Speaker 1: all to her. I'm not giving it any to these
Speaker 1: ungrateful brats.
Speaker 2: Interesting because there was reports that his kids were celebrating
Speaker 2: allegedly after all of this had taken place, like they
Speaker 2: were in All of the kids were in a good mood.
Speaker 2: That's all alleged. I don't have I don't know where
Speaker 2: that report came from. I know I heard it came
Speaker 2: from the devil. So I am very happy to say allegedly.
Speaker 1: Okay, so a crucial detail has emerged. Authorities believe Arakawa
Speaker 1: predeceased Hackem by as much as a week since she
Speaker 1: passed first the will okay, so it's like I give
Speaker 1: all my money to this lady. Okay. If she dies,
Speaker 1: then then she has a.
Speaker 2: Will giving everything to him to him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now if she dies, there's no one to get it
Speaker 1: doesn't go to her, and if it does go to
Speaker 1: her estate or something, it goes back to him. So
Speaker 1: now that's the same thing that's called dying into state.
Speaker 1: You don't have a will, you have no valid will.
Speaker 1: So if you die inter state, then they go to
Speaker 1: the interstate secession and in California, like most states, it
Speaker 1: would go to do you have any issue? And that's
Speaker 1: what they call kids in a state trust and will's law.
Speaker 1: Do you have any issue? Well, they have some issues.
Speaker 1: He's got three issues, so they're going to get it
Speaker 1: third to thirty third and so I don't see any
Speaker 1: other way out of that. Yeah, But the first they
Speaker 1: have to go through probate, which is a mess. And
Speaker 1: I would give anything to probate that estate because the
Speaker 1: probate is the fee that the lawyer gets is based
Speaker 1: on a percentage of the value of the estate. Now
Speaker 1: I've done three or four, four or five, I don't know,
Speaker 1: five or six, maybe probates because not that I ever,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a big time lawyer or anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just an entertainment law guy, and it'd be more
Speaker 1: of a legal expert. But I go to church a lot.
Speaker 1: When you go to church a lot and the old
Speaker 1: ladies find out that you're a lawyer, always coming up
Speaker 1: to you with something, and then you know the widows,
Speaker 1: and so I learned how to do probates to help
Speaker 1: these ladies. And by helping them, I got a percentage
Speaker 1: of the estates which they can't even not pay me.
Speaker 1: The court pays me. And so it's a great thing
Speaker 1: to do if you're not like a full time, you know,
Speaker 1: hardcore lawyer, because you don't want to, especially if you're
Speaker 1: a guy in a punk band that's a lawyer. Because
Speaker 1: if you're a guy in a punk band and a
Speaker 1: lawyer and you send a letter to another attorney, they
Speaker 1: google you and they laugh at you. So I can't
Speaker 1: do that. But here I am just ask you for tickets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might do that, So I'm so I learned how
Speaker 1: to do probates. But the probates anybody who probe it
Speaker 1: who dies with no trust or no will or anything,
Speaker 1: they don't have it. If they're if they're wealthy, they
Speaker 1: have a trust. Yeah, they're not wealthy, they they don't.
Speaker 1: And then you get a percentage of that. And and
Speaker 1: so I was getting a percentage of some the states,
Speaker 1: but nothing like an eighty million things.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money in Jeene Hackman's estate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So whoever is the the probate attorney in that one? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, congratulations? Yeah, And if you don't have one Hackman's,
Speaker 1: give me a called.
Speaker 2: What kind of percentage is usually gotten by attorneys or
Speaker 2: what kind of fees do attorneys get?
Speaker 1: Usually fourteen percent or something of the actual percentages? But
Speaker 1: you know, it was always you know.
Speaker 2: I got in the wrong field. I could have just
Speaker 2: gotten my law degree and pass the bar magically and
Speaker 2: then somehow just sit there and wait for people to die.
Speaker 2: Right you have to go to church now, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 1: Where it to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, the people you get like that be bad?
Speaker 2: Would that be wrong of me?
Speaker 1: Probably? You it's better than actually poisoning them, and you know.
Speaker 2: And or hiring someone else to kill them a hit man.
Speaker 1: So what you do is, yeah, you get a percentage
Speaker 1: of that, like it's a it's a large percentage of
Speaker 1: the first you know, four hundred thousand or something. Then
Speaker 1: it's a reduced amount after that. Okay, you know, so
Speaker 1: it goes down to you know, pretty low percentage. But wow,
Speaker 1: So that that'll be very interesting. And it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting case of course, because you know, she died, he died.
Speaker 1: She was I mean, how much did he suffer? And
Speaker 1: then there's a dog that was like sitting in a
Speaker 1: kennel or something that died.
Speaker 2: Oh geez, yeah, no, that's the thing. He had dementia Alzheimer's,
Speaker 2: and she passes away ahead of him. He's probably having
Speaker 2: moments where he's having some bits and pieces of clarity
Speaker 2: knowing what's happening, and then going into dementia.
Speaker 1: Went in dementia again. So he probably didn't suffer. And
Speaker 1: God gave him that dementia because he knew it was
Speaker 1: he was gonna need something to keep his mind off
Speaker 1: of what was really going on.
Speaker 2: That's just horrifying.
Speaker 1: And she was a young she was like a young,
Speaker 1: pretty trophy wife. Yeah, and who knew she would go
Speaker 1: first hunt a virus. Yeah, but you know also that
Speaker 1: the kids are probably like, look at this dragon lady
Speaker 1: steal all our dad's money.
Speaker 2: That's why I heard reports that the kids were extremely
Speaker 2: happy with what happened, because if she passed away first,
Speaker 2: then at there it goes automatically to the kids.
Speaker 1: It's like someone came in and broke the slot machine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and he won, and they won, and then
Speaker 1: they probably were thought he was suffering anyway, so they're
Speaker 1: not They don't mind that he died because he was
Speaker 1: suffering so bad. Yeah, but you know a little bonus
Speaker 1: that that she goes.
Speaker 2: If they weren't in the will, then they may have
Speaker 2: had a very testy relationship.
Speaker 1: On the Well, well here's what happens. They start they on, uh,
Speaker 1: that woman's trying that woman is trying to steal your money. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you say, well, if you don't love her,
Speaker 1: you don't love me. I'll never talk to you again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why you have to love your parents spouse, their
Speaker 1: their stepdad or whatever like that. You just have to.
Speaker 1: And that's my legal advice. Love your your parents' spouse.
Speaker 1: Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood back after this, Joe was Scalante
Speaker 1: Live from Hollywood. Hey, were you mad that someone made
Speaker 1: a movie about Donald Trump and released it right before
Speaker 1: the election to try to interfere with your right to
Speaker 1: elect your own president who you want? Okay, Well, some
Speaker 1: a lot of people work, a lot of people were.
Speaker 1: You know how they did they were They tried to
Speaker 1: throw him ja oh, they tried to take him off
Speaker 1: the ballot, they tried to kill him. They tried to
Speaker 1: do whatever they could, and then that if that doesn't work,
Speaker 1: we'll make a movie that shows him being a loudmouth
Speaker 1: from Queen's and we'll release it right before the election,
Speaker 1: and then everyone will see this movie and they'll say, Wow,
Speaker 1: we can elect this guy.
Speaker 2: Nobody saw it.
Speaker 1: Not only nobody saw it. I mean we already know
Speaker 1: he's allowed mouth from Queen's. All right, We've we elected,
Speaker 1: we voted, the America wanted allowed mouth from Queens as
Speaker 1: their president. So anyways, the director of that movie is
Speaker 1: now denying or apologizing for his own You know, they
Speaker 1: try to say he was a womanizer in the movie,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But now the director has
Speaker 1: been accused of the same things that they were accusing
Speaker 1: Donald Trumpe. And you think a guy that made a
Speaker 1: movie like that would keep his hands clean for a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, if he does get accused with anything, he
Speaker 2: could just run for office and get all the charges dropped.
Speaker 1: Maybe he could try that. Ali Abbassi, who directed the
Speaker 1: controversial by.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, with that last name, he ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Now, he's not guess what. Evidently he's on the plane
Speaker 1: uh and being shipped back to wherever all Obassi's come from. No,
Speaker 1: he was at the Golden Globe party. He uh slapped
Speaker 1: someone on the rear end and.
Speaker 2: One of those good appropriate games rear end slaps, or
Speaker 2: like something more suggestive.
Speaker 1: Something more like, hey, your mind, I own you. This
Speaker 1: is how I express my feelings. No, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm used to the you know, like everybody like, you know,
Speaker 2: playing softball or whatever game.
Speaker 1: Well, it was bad enough to where it became an
Speaker 1: issue and he had to apologize, and then he was
Speaker 1: dropped from his agency. And but then they're saying, that's
Speaker 1: not why he got dropped. He ended up with another agency,
Speaker 1: not a great one, but he ended up with one.
Speaker 1: So Ali Abassi.
Speaker 2: Notorious cheek clapper.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't know what people people are
Speaker 1: doing these days when they learn anything. I made a
Speaker 1: whole movie trying to ruin someone for this kind of stuf.
Speaker 2: If it was a good movie, cool, it just was
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: We all know that movie was not gonna be good.
Speaker 1: It's like the you know, some Christian movies, you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, the movement is, we got a movement,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna make this message, and then they don't
Speaker 1: spend enough time developing the actual movie, the actual movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, Christian movies have gone have come a long way.
Speaker 1: There's now many good ones. Some Canadian movies are also
Speaker 1: good now. But this kind of a cause movie, it's
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's in a hurry to get it out.
Speaker 1: We got to get it out by election time. We
Speaker 1: know it's not gonna be good. Yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: that's something American can come together on. We already know
Speaker 1: this movie is no good. We don't even have to
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 2: I think by the time it came out, just about
Speaker 2: everybody had their minds made up. So it doesn't even
Speaker 2: matter really if you're gonna be throwing out a movie
Speaker 2: at that point, the people who you're aiming for are
Speaker 2: gonna be like, we don't care, we don't want to
Speaker 2: see any more of this kind of And the people
Speaker 2: who you're aiming to like piss off or get under
Speaker 2: their skin with this stuff aren't going to go to
Speaker 2: see it on principle. Yeah, so you've you kind of
Speaker 2: missed completely with an entire audience unless you're looking to,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe do a foreign like hit foreign audiences
Speaker 2: who need to get more familiarized with that person's vision
Speaker 2: of what Trump looks like. But really nobody in America
Speaker 2: wanted to see that at that point.
Speaker 1: So speaking of that kind of stuff, the Sundance Film
Speaker 1: Festival is now perhaps moving out of where there's many
Speaker 1: many cities are are bidding for it, and they had
Speaker 1: a ten year agreement with the park city where it
Speaker 1: is and things up, and so the future of having
Speaker 1: it in Utah is jeopardy. Now. Not helping is a
Speaker 1: lot a bill before the governor's office that's about to
Speaker 1: be signed by the governor that says there is it's
Speaker 1: one of those laws that said you can't put any
Speaker 1: flag on a government property other than the state flag
Speaker 1: and the American flag. Okay, Now, who do you think
Speaker 1: people think that's aimed at?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The POWs maybe, or maybe the rainbow people maybe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So obviously it's a rule to keep the rainbow flag
Speaker 1: off of them because that's controversial. And then if you
Speaker 1: got the rainbow flag, you know what's next the cats
Speaker 1: and dogs living together.
Speaker 2: Flag, Animals united, right, right?
Speaker 1: And so anyway, so I think that's a pretty normal
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm how you feel about this, but I
Speaker 1: think that's a pretty normal thing for Utah to do. It.
Speaker 1: Just go, you know what, if you can have a
Speaker 1: rainbow flag, why can't you have a Joseph Smith flag or.
Speaker 2: And it's up to the filmmakers and the people who
Speaker 2: run that show if they want to stay there or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, and so if they don't want to
Speaker 1: stay there, fine, But if you're a person who's agitating
Speaker 1: over this, then you, to me, that's where the problem is.
Speaker 1: I think you're you're you should find another hobby. Let
Speaker 1: the Utah people do their Utah thing and let them
Speaker 1: have their film fest. But so that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know what will happen, because you know, people
Speaker 1: get get agitated.
Speaker 2: Well, we're living in very much an outrage field society.
Speaker 2: So the more they call it clickbait, I guess. But
Speaker 2: there's the more you can cater to a person's sense
Speaker 2: of outrage, you're going to draw more of an emotional response.
Speaker 1: We'll speak of speaking of outrage, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you think the outraged fans, the fans of the
Speaker 1: Tool that went to the Dominican Republic see them and
Speaker 1: at a Destination concert felt when they saw two sets
Speaker 1: and they weren't one hundred percent different. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: a there's a disgusting law firm running around. They're called
Speaker 1: the Russek Firm h and they're put they're they're posting
Speaker 1: ads on Facebook saying, you know, did you see Tool?
Speaker 1: Did you pay four thousand dollars to ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: And were you promised two unique Tool set lists? So
Speaker 1: they want to sue Tool and get all their fans
Speaker 1: together and have a class action suit and sue the
Speaker 1: band Tool because they were promised two unique Tool set
Speaker 1: lists and they weren't. They try to make you believe
Speaker 1: that they were the same set. No, they weren't the
Speaker 1: same set.
Speaker 2: They had the same songs both days.
Speaker 1: No, they had both days had four similar songs Fear Inoculum, Rosetta, Stoned, Numa,
Speaker 1: and Jumbie. Okay, so you're saying they they have to
Speaker 1: play one hundred percent different sets like that doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense because some songs are just people want to
Speaker 1: hear every night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have certain songs that everybody are
Speaker 2: familiar with, Numa and stuff like that that are people are.
Speaker 2: It's the crowd pleasers, and ultimately it's up to the
Speaker 2: band to be the one to determine what songs they
Speaker 2: want to sing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're going to see the set they want
Speaker 1: that they feel best about performing for you, so you
Speaker 1: don't decide this this this set. But even if they
Speaker 1: promise too unique, this is why this lawsuit fails and
Speaker 1: the guy, the ambulance chaser trying to do it is
Speaker 1: a loser. They promise too unique things, too unique sets,
Speaker 1: and of course they're unique. They have a mixed song.
Speaker 1: They might have put a little bit of different vibe
Speaker 1: into the same songs they played. Yeah, you know that
Speaker 1: Maynard could be standing in the middle during one and
Speaker 1: maybe he's climbing on the rafteries or he's back on
Speaker 1: a vanity box or something. Everything's different. Yeah, it's all ephemeral.
Speaker 2: They had a bunch of different songs that they actually
Speaker 2: played different between the two shows.
Speaker 1: But if you don't play those songs, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some jackass going, why didn't you play Numa? Yeah, Numa, Numa?
Speaker 1: Oh man, they didn't play Numa.
Speaker 2: I saw the set list both nights. They didn't play sober.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: If I was there, I would have been pissed. But
Speaker 2: you want to know something, I would have been thrilled
Speaker 2: to death just seeing Danny Carey on the drums.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw him live by the way at the Baked
Speaker 2: Potato here at the Jazz Club in North Hollywood, which
Speaker 2: is hilarious watching him, Yeah, play the drums just with
Speaker 2: a bunch of jazz musicians. Yeah, it was fantastic. It
Speaker 2: was also like not the usual sound you're expecting, you know.
Speaker 1: I say, Josh Josh Freeze, drummer of Foo Fighters in
Speaker 1: the Vandals, plays occasional gigs over at.
Speaker 2: That Baked Potato. Love that spot. The potatoes are amazing.
Speaker 1: The potato is we should I'm glad people actually support
Speaker 1: that place because if it goes away, it'd be a tragedy.
Speaker 1: So anyway, if if you're thinking about getting in on
Speaker 1: this tool thing, you are a tool, and don't do it.
Speaker 1: This is not what we need the courts for. And
Speaker 1: this guy russk from this Georgian law firm should be
Speaker 1: ashamed of himself. And you know, if you love a band,
Speaker 1: let him give you the show that they want to
Speaker 1: give you. And if you want to go on Facebook
Speaker 1: and make suggestions, fine, But if you're going to be
Speaker 1: a hater, you know you're you're You're a pathetic You're
Speaker 1: a pathetic person, so don't be pathetic.
Speaker 2: I agree, all right.
Speaker 1: When we return, just when you think the worldsh I
Speaker 1: thought we were like had peaked in wokeness. I thought
Speaker 1: there was a peak and then we were going back
Speaker 1: down the other side. When you say we're on the
Speaker 1: other side of it.
Speaker 2: I would say at this point we are in a
Speaker 2: post woke society. But I get the feeling there's going
Speaker 2: to be moments.
Speaker 1: Not in England, so I'll tell you what's going on
Speaker 1: over there. It's probably the worst one too. It's some
Speaker 1: peak woke. I don't know it. After traffic you'll find out.
Speaker 1: Joe Scalante li from Hollywood Joe Joe's coolante by from Hollywood.
Speaker 1: By Hollywood, you mean Burbank on our final segment of
Speaker 1: the evening before whatever that thing is comes on after
Speaker 1: this show, that really cool guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy. I love that guy. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So uh is it still the tech guy? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: love the tech guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Check it out, check it out, take it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh wow, this is this One's gonna kinna even you, Sam,
Speaker 1: are gonna throw up in your mouth a little bit.
Speaker 1: Shakespeare's birthplace to be decolonized. What decolonized?
Speaker 2: But wait, this is where colonialism came from.
Speaker 1: Well, let's I know, but uh, this is a term
Speaker 1: I just I just learned today. Decolonized. We have to
Speaker 1: decolonize it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The trust that controls the Stratford upon Avon Thing, the
Speaker 1: birthplace of William Shakespeare, Well they're undergoing a process of decolonization, Sam,
Speaker 1: following concerns that the playwright's work has been used to
Speaker 1: promote white supremacy.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust, which manages properties related to
Speaker 1: Shakespeare in Stratford upon Avon, is reevaluating its collections to
Speaker 1: create a more inclusive experience. A research project claimed that now,
Speaker 1: by the way, you got a research project. You know. Now,
Speaker 1: you know you're in trouble. You're listening to a research project.
Speaker 1: And they claim that presenting Shakespeare as a universal genius
Speaker 1: reinforces white European supremacy by positioning European culture as the
Speaker 1: global standard for high art. The Trust is now exploring
Speaker 1: the impact of colonialism on its collections and how Shakespeare's
Speaker 1: work played a role in that history. This initiative involves
Speaker 1: addressing potentially harmful language and depictions in the archives and
Speaker 1: presenting Shakespeare as part of a diverse community of writers.
Speaker 1: So he's not the greatest. Hey, everybody, it's an but
Speaker 1: we got to read these other people. They're all equal.
Speaker 1: The Trust has secured funding to broaden its international perspective,
Speaker 1: hosting events celebrating other global artists. This move follows a
Speaker 1: trend of racially focused criticism of Shakespeare, with some academics
Speaker 1: examining themes of race in his plays.
Speaker 2: Did Shakespeare even see a black guy? Has he ever
Speaker 2: met a Latino? It was England for white people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what are you complaining about? Well, like does that mean
Speaker 2: that so like if we go to like all of
Speaker 2: the different homes of some of the great authors, no
Speaker 2: matter what their race are, we have to have also
Speaker 2: like sections on every other great author.
Speaker 1: I would say people would argue only if those if
Speaker 1: they're white, because this is a this is this is
Speaker 1: an anti or Western This isn't what people think. This
Speaker 1: is is a war on the West. This is an
Speaker 1: anti Western thing to bring down the West, and that
Speaker 1: is a conspiracy theory. Would you not agree?
Speaker 2: I would agree that is a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: Okay, but this kind of this would go in the
Speaker 1: category of you know what, all conspiracy theories turn out
Speaker 1: sooner or later to be true. That there's people who
Speaker 1: think that now you're just giving them fodder that See,
Speaker 1: they are trying to bring down the West because the
Speaker 1: West is a pillar of Western culture. Is William Shakespeare,
Speaker 1: and they want to take him down.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing I've They don't just want.
Speaker 1: To take they don't just want to celebrate everybody else.
Speaker 1: They want to tell you that he's the problem. He
Speaker 1: was a racist, and celebrating him perpetuates white supremacy.
Speaker 2: That's weird, weird, that's weird.
Speaker 1: That's just that's the the world. We thought we got
Speaker 1: rid of. A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing, the that element of wokeism is
Speaker 2: so unnecessary because he was British.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if you want to tear down the West?
Speaker 2: I mean I always looked at Shakespeare as a British writer.
Speaker 2: It's not like a he represents all of white right,
Speaker 2: white writers from all over Europe. I'm sure there was
Speaker 2: great German writers and great Middle Eastern writers, and great
Speaker 2: writers from all China and all over the place.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you're an enlightened individual we have.
Speaker 2: I understand that they want to make it more inclusive
Speaker 2: for the audience. Great, you can do that, that's no problem.
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. The thing is, are
Speaker 2: we doing it by trying to change who he actually was?
Speaker 1: No, you're trying to vilify him and say that he
Speaker 1: was a a jerk basically, and he and he's part
Speaker 1: of the problem. And we cannot fifteen hundred. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: cannot move forward until everybody knows that this guy has
Speaker 1: to be erased. Pretty much, it's an erasure of Western culture.
Speaker 1: And you know, the sad thing to me is, you know,
Speaker 1: people like we're on the other side of this wokeism
Speaker 1: and now we're being dragged back.
Speaker 2: So wait, does this mean that? I mean, if it's
Speaker 2: something like to the extent or to something to the
Speaker 2: effect of having say, an African American person perform as
Speaker 2: one of the Shakespearean characters, I'm okay with that. Yes, fine, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have I love having great performers. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who it is play those roles. By all means do it.
Speaker 2: We do it. It's acting.
Speaker 1: It's not enough though, It's not enough. We have to
Speaker 1: go to where it came and we have to go
Speaker 1: to that town and say everything this town has been
Speaker 1: built on is a lie because this is the new truth.
Speaker 1: And that's just you know, feeds into the anti Western
Speaker 1: Marxist conspiracy. They want to it's MoU's cultural revolution and
Speaker 1: they want they'll not they will not be happy until
Speaker 1: the West is brought to its knees.
Speaker 2: If it's historically accurate, I'm okay. If it starts to
Speaker 2: go away from historical accuracy, that's when you've lost me.
Speaker 1: And we lost you here. Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I'm bored with that stuff. I'm it's just that to
Speaker 2: me is like so unnecessary. Now he's an old British
Speaker 2: guy from four hundred, five hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: What's what sizes your head? Because I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: a maga hat. Oh, I don't hear it. Now that
Speaker 1: you've moved to the other side of God. No, now
Speaker 1: that you've moved, now that you know that, But can
Speaker 1: you see like this is not helping? This is you
Speaker 1: know what the kind of stuff this does.
Speaker 2: I want to see what exactly they're talking about before
Speaker 2: I get all. I told you what.
Speaker 1: They're talking about. But no, they've got to bring it down.
Speaker 2: Well, what though, what specifically are they changing If.
Speaker 1: You're trying to say that this is this you're celebrating
Speaker 1: him too much and you're saying that he's great, and
Speaker 1: and then now we have to other people. We're trying
Speaker 1: to tell people that Western culture is not great, and
Speaker 1: you're saying is great.
Speaker 2: I also a Catholic, Yeah, a white writer. It doesn't
Speaker 2: reflect all of society.
Speaker 1: Well, what happens is this will end up. They'll get
Speaker 1: a candidate. They're going to get a Trump over there
Speaker 1: if they keep keep this up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all
Speaker 1: Right, Well, now leave you with just a taste of
Speaker 1: the greatest song ever Bitten