Speaker 1: We go behind the counter with our great friend John Murray,
the vice president here at the Super Book. Yes, it
is time. The contest deadline is approaching. Matter of fact, today,
for the very first time, the College Contest seven picks
that you're picking against the spread a five hundred dollars
entry fee, and just got moments to get signed up
for that. But you still got plenty of time for
the other contests, including the best, the long time one
here at the Super Book, and that is the Super
Contest fifteen hundred dollars entry fee this year with so
many different ways to win, and John, I got to
imagine that, you know, you got extra people working those
windows like you do at this time every year. Very
popular weekend here. But let's talk about the College Contest.
Is that will commence here for the very first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna end up around eleven hundred
entries and we're pretty happy with that. You know, first
year contest. No, a lot of people didn't know about it,
didn't know we were doing it. So I think what
you're going to see is next year there'll be word
of mouth, people telling their friends about the contest. And
I think next year you're gonna see a lot more
people in it. I think it's been very very well
received and we're very happy with the turnout on it all.
Speaker 1: Right, then, of course the Super Contest you still got
time to get signed up with that as well too,
and again raise the entry fee a little bit with that,
talk a little bit about the reasons why. And then
you still have plenty of opportunity to win the in
season contests as well too, So there's a lot of
money that you can win on this.
Speaker 2: The simple reason is we want to have more money
in the prize pool. You know, the decision is which
what will get you more money in.
Speaker 3: The prize pool. You have to think it'll hurt.
Speaker 2: Number of entries, but we believe that it would increase
the money in the pool.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the week over week comparisons.
Speaker 2: Which of course we are looking at, there is a
lot more money in the pool at this time than
there was a year ago. So so far it has worked.
There are eight days to go, we'll see how it
ends up. But if you're looking to get in the
Super Contest and if there's less people in it than
there were last year and there's more money in the
prize pool than there.
Speaker 3: Was last year.
Speaker 2: That's a win win for you. Less competition, more money.
We're trying to get that winning amount, you know, back
up to a bigger number.
Speaker 1: What do the entries look like now in comparison to
last year.
Speaker 2: It's fewer entries, but there's more money, right So, I
don't know the exact number. I don't know the exact
number of what we had at this time, this exact
day last year.
Speaker 3: But it's not so much less.
Speaker 2: That it's impacted the prize pool negatively, because now you're
getting fifty percent more money every sign up.
Speaker 3: So so far it is working.
Speaker 1: But see with that mindset too, you could equal or
maybe even surpass the total number of entries. Because of
that point, you're just saying, because people don't know how
many people are actually in the contest, how many they're
competing against, until you know once the contest actually starts.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's true. We know we're going to get a
rush of entries the next eight days. There always is.
I saw Marco running here today.
Speaker 2: Oh he did sign over for the college contest. Wait
talk about waiting until the eleventh hour.
Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a bad time about that.
In the opening segment. But I'm glad John brought that up.
I mean, you come in here, you're gassed. You're saying,
oh my god. Guy, He's like, what happened to you?
What's going on, mister organization?
Speaker 4: We weren't here the last two Fridays, That's what happened.
Speaker 1: I wasn't here, but you were. You were in town.
Speaker 4: I was in town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we weren't on Yeah, that actually is.
Speaker 2: A pretty good answer. It's a pretty good answer now
that I do know. There's always a big rush. I
think one thing you're gonna see next week is people
are gonna wait to see the result of that Dallas
Philadelphia game and it might determine, well, how many people
get into the Survivor contest. I think people are going
to use the Eagles and Survivor, and I think there's
people that are gonna want to wait to see the
result of that game before they determine will I get
into Survivor how many entries will I do in Survivor
because there are gonna be people that use the use
the Eagles, and there will be dead money in the
pool if Dallas wins on Thursday night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that got hurt with trade and away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although we didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, we didn't really think Parsons was going to
play on Thursday anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's possible.
Speaker 2: But it's just it's hard to picture any scenario in
which they'd come to a deal and then Parsons would
have been ready to play Thursday night football.
Speaker 3: I just I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: Back to the contest though, So if you enter the
Survivor contest before Thursday, you can use that Thursday game.
But then again, it's still open, so that just gives
you one less game to use. Safety sign up Friday
or Saturday, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could use that game. You can use the
Friday game. I don't think that's going to be popular
Survivor game, but you could do that. And if you
were to go, if you were to use the Eagles
on Thursday, let's say they do lose to.
Speaker 3: Dallas, you could come right back in here on Friday.
Sign up again. We'd love to have another five thousand
of your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so yeah, there's I think that'll be a
semi popular play.
Speaker 4: What's gonna end up at if they lose? Okay, the
contest becomes plus ev for any buddy that it enters
in because you know, remember last year we had that
record breaking elimination first week when Cincinnati went down. They
were like the most popular play that week. They went
down in Week one and what did take off? Almost
fifty percent of the contestant.
Speaker 3: It was like over five thousand people. Yeah. I had
two of those entries too, Thanks for bringing that up.
I had two of those I had. I started that
morning with four entries and I went to bed with two. Yeah,
thank you, Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Well, did we bring up a you know, did John
have a certain partner? You know that one was live,
that one was live.
Speaker 4: The we'll bring We'll bring that bad memory up later
in the season.
Speaker 3: Thank god, because I know that.
Speaker 2: I think the partner of the TC's referring to is
Kelly in Vegas. Marco's friend, right, Marco's friend from Waiser Talk.
You know, she was telling I did a show with
her yesterday. She was telling me that, you know, if
something happens tomorrow, tell something happens on Saturday, She's going
to be in a Taiales spin. I'm like, you're gonna
be a tailspin for the result.
Speaker 3: Of a college football game. Week one, she lost Week
one Survivors.
Speaker 2: She would have been in a freaking tail spin. I
would have want I would have had to turn off
my phone.
Speaker 1: I just wonder, on that other show that John does,
like on Thursdays, if he references us as much as
he references her in these nightmare stories, you know, as
he does on our show. You know.
Speaker 2: No, I think I think in fairness, I think TC
brought her up this time.
Speaker 1: I did, he did, I did, but but off air.
I got to hear it from you guys before we
even hit the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. We talked about Yeah that's true.
Speaker 4: If you been recognized out and about is oh you
do the show with Kelly Stewart.
Speaker 3: Oh that's definitely true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I was. That happened to but you. But
you even had a better one though, didn't you. Yeah.
The last person you know told me.
Speaker 4: You're on YouTube, aren't you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You're that football guy.
Speaker 4: You you worked for Kelly Steward. Kelly, you worked for
Kelly in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way it is. Did she sign your checks?
I didn't know. I had heard the sponsor, you know,
entry for me said she's the boss.
Speaker 3: I think my weirdest one I was in.
Speaker 2: We had a family vacation in Williamsburg, Virginia, earlier this month,
and we had like a bank of hotel rooms for
the family and I was done checking in, my mom
was checking into her room, and I was just standing
there waiting for and this guy comes over. He's like, hey, John,
and I was like, I was thinking, like, maybe I
know this guy.
Speaker 3: From high school.
Speaker 2: I mean, Williamsburg is not near where I went to
high school, but it's not impossible.
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, I watched her show with Kelly.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what, like in Williamsburg, Virginia. And
he was a very nice guy. He was he was
in town from Chicago. And we talked for a while
and then my mom comes over. She's like, who the
hell is that guy? And I was like, you're not
gonna believe me, mom.
Speaker 3: He knew Kelly.
Speaker 1: All right. We had mentioned the Micah Parson's trade to
Green Bay. Let's talk a little bit about the effects there.
I imagine you know green Bay's odds have now improved.
What kind of movement have you have you done with that? Yeah?
We did.
Speaker 2: I mean you had the packers from twenty to one
down to twelve to one, and then the other adjustment
that you need to make other than raising Dallas, of
course you do that, but we also raised Detroit and Chicago.
So this makes the NFC North, which was already pretty
tough division.
Speaker 3: To begin with.
Speaker 2: Detroit obviously they go into the season with Super Bowl aspirations,
Minnesota was one game away from being the one seed
last year, Chicago expects to make the playoffs, and now
Green Bay ads Michael Parsons, So you had to adjust
those other teams in the division.
Speaker 3: And then of course Laura and the Packers.
Speaker 1: Opening night in the NFL Thursday Night Dallas at Philadelphia,
we saw that number six rise up to six and
a half or so. I would imagine even had some
more action on Philly, you know, with the announcement of
this trade and again now Dallas playing, you know without
Micaeh Parsons. What have we seen there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're what you're gonna get in that game for sure,
is a lot of teaser and money line action to
the favorite to Philadelphia. We've had games like this in
the past where the team's been around a seven ish
point favorite. I remember one year it was actually before
Mahomes was the quarterback. Kansas City went into New England
in this game and they were like a seven and
a half eight point dog and they won, and the
book just cleaned up on that game. And then I
think it was two years ago, Detroit was around this
level of a dog in Kansas City and they won
and the book did very well in that game. So
this has happened before, where you know, it's hard to
picture a seven point underdog winning, but it's you know,
it's it's.
Speaker 3: Not always easy as it looks in the NFL, especially
opening week. Yeah, and I and it's a division. Games
are familiar with each other.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the super Bowl hangover does play
into that because yeah, we've seen that.
Speaker 3: Oh, we've definitely seen that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Philadelphia that you know, they've got bigger fish
to fry. They're not They're they're back to win the
super Bowl again. So let's just see, like, let's see
what the mood is of Dallas. Could this be a
good thing to get rid of Parsons? I mean, you
don't trade a player like him unless he's causing you
some headaches. He's very he's way too good of a
player to trade. Maybe now that he's gone. That distraction's gone.
The offense, if it stays healthy, is very good in Dallas.
Speaker 4: But the defense just took a major stuff here, a
huge and it wasn't a great defense to start with.
Speaker 1: But like John said, there was no guarantee that he
was going to play anyway. Now, conventional wisdom said that
he will probably play, but no one has seen this
guy work out. He's been hanging around practice without pads,
just you know, all by himself, and you know, hanging
out with different you know, players, coaches and just you know,
just a whole bad you know, vibe in chemistry there.
But if the guy was in shape and ready to
go and he said, okay, I'm just going to suck
it up and I'm going to play for my twenty
one million dollars, you know, this season, you know he
is playing. I think for the most part. Again he's yeah,
you know, I don't think that. You know, I know,
you said, John, you didn't think that he would play.
But I'm thinking if he would probably still play, and again,
you're paying him the twenty one million, and if he's
not in shape, well that's on him, you know, I think.
But as a coach, you know, you got to go
to war with your best defensive player.
Speaker 2: Well, to say he wouldn't have played wasn't really a
good way to say it. I don't think he would
have been Michael Parsons. I don't think he would have
been the impact player that he's been the last few years,
A guy that you know, we consider to be really
one of the only there's only so many players in
the NFL that don't play quarterback that really could infect
the futures market.
Speaker 3: There's only a handful.
Speaker 2: Of those guys on the defensive side of the ball,
and he's one of those players. I mean, he's that
good of a player.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would have been that guy on
Thursday for Dallas.
Speaker 1: You know you said that obviously, the Green Bay odds,
you know, plummeted. Have you actually seen some money, some
sharp money coming in the last twenty four hours or
is it this is just more of a preventive move.
Speaker 2: This trade is so big, he's such a big name,
and there's so many betting markets nowadays that the only
thing you can realistically do when something like this happens
is just close everything and then just readjust everything.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 2: So there really wasn't any They didn't really take any
bets on it. It was just like, Wow, Michael Parsons
got traded. Let's close it down. Let's reassess the one
thing we got. The one thing we did get nailed
on right when we reopened everything was a guy that
Dallas step the worst record.
Speaker 1: In the league.
Speaker 3: Wow, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Which we had adjusted We had lowered it down. This player,
I guess felt we hadn't adjusted it enough.
Speaker 4: The offense is too good that they will they will
win enough games that they won't be the worst.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you do have a new head, coach,
new system, and you know, you just don't know. And
that's the thing you And we'll talk about this more
next segment about Okay, who's the real winner here? You know,
is it Jerry Jones is the Cowboys or is it
you know, Green Bay and Micah Parsons and his agent
because Micah ended up getting more money than he had.
We'll dive into all that stuff. But the thing is,
you just don't know. And Mike concern for green Bay.
Here is the reason green Bay it was attractive for
them because they don't have a lot of high price. Okay,
they don't have a lot of guys. Yeah, you signed
Jordan Love going back to last year, but you don't
have these other guys. So you've gotten the money to spend.
And the thing about it is, remember the Packers were
the second youngest you know team I believe last year
in the NFL, and you know, they didn't bring in
a lot of you know, veterans. There's still a lot
of question marks. And then for people to still think
that Jordan Love is this fantastic quarterback, we don't know that.
If you like, look at Jordan Love from a schematic standpoint,
an x's and oz' standpoint, this fundamental standpoint, he kind
of drives me nuts. And I've talked to you Jay Schrader,
other quarteryard, Steve Berlin, they said the exact same thing.
So it's just not me. It's like, no, this guy
fundamentally is not there. And you know, so those are
the things you got to look at. There's no guarantee
that Green Bay is is going to go to the
super Bowl or deep in the playoffs just because they
have Michael Parsons. Because on the contrary, what Dallas has,
green Bay doesn't have that on the offensive side of
the ball.
Speaker 2: No, they don't have the they don't have the great
skill position play and they don't. I like Jordan Love,
but I don't He's not a Joe Burrow, Josh Allen,
Patrick Mahomes type quarterback where it almost doesn't even matter
who's around them, they can just elevate the entire group.
Love I don't think. I don't think any of us
would put Love in that category. I do think he
needs more help than that, But we'll see. I think
there's gonna be a lot of hype around Green Bay.
Speaker 3: I know there is now, yeah, but that's a tough
divisions there.
Speaker 2: There's no guarantee that they even make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And improved I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think Chicago's going to be improved.
Speaker 2: There's something to be said for how do I put
this nicely, I'm not gonna put it nicely, when you
when you have a coach, when you have a coach
that bad, you almost can't help but get better when
you replace him.
Speaker 3: And I think that we've seen that over the.
Speaker 2: Years with certain teams, certain coaches. I think we're gonna
find that was the case with Chicago. I think the
guy was so in over his head. Just replacing him
at all is going to be in a nice, nice
upgrade for them.
Speaker 1: College Football Week one, and how about the first game
on the docket at nine o'clock in the morning Pacific time, right?
I know what John's thinking, Like, why this game isn't
later in the afternoon. It's like, here we go Texas
and Ohio State. The game's in Columbus and money is
pouring in on the Texas Longhorns. This is almost flipped.
And I know that some properties even made Texas a
slight favorite earlier today Ohio State open minus three, and
it sounds like you guys have been getting inundated with
Longhorn money.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. I mean, Texas a very public side,
but you know it's also it's also been a pretty
sharp side.
Speaker 3: You know, some of our sharper groups are on Texas.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's possible they're setting up the market to play back
Ohio State.
Speaker 3: I don't know that either way, but I.
Speaker 2: Want to make sure it's Everyone keeps talking about everybody's
on Texas well. So there's a lot of smart groups
on Texas too. The number doesn't just go from where
it was to where it is now just because a
bunch of public people are throwing Texas into parlays.
Speaker 3: I there's some sharp players, the long ones too.
Speaker 4: As you said with the possible buy back. People don't
understand that the market can be manipulated early in the
week to get the ball rolling, and then you get
all the steam chasers that jump on board. And especially
when you're dealing with these games where it's the small number,
you can turn around they got in their pocket. They
might have got Texas at plus two plus two and
a half, and then you can turn around when this
market manipulated to Texas being a favorite, you come back
and you get Ohio State at plus plus money on
the money line.
Speaker 3: And probably had a bigger limit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the sportsbooks raise their limits
as they get closer to game day, so they might
be vetting the number to where they to where they
want it coming back over the top.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying that that's always a possibility.
Speaker 3: It's something we do.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: We were actually just talking about a game back there
before I came out here between Kentucky and Toledo where
a lot of sharp guys had bet Toledo down, and
then we had a steam on Kentucky. The last twenty
four hours, we're thinking maybe they're setting it up to
come back on Toledo, but you know it's a cat
and mouse game.
Speaker 3: We don't really, we don't know that for sure.
Speaker 4: This is you know, you see the same thing with
the manipulation of the market in horse racing that with
the caaw's computer assisted way during its bill.
Speaker 3: That's true. There's definitely there's definitely a big thing in.
Speaker 2: Football, and I think it's because you have these games
they can land near those numbers. It does happen where
you can win both bets. And also, what I said earlier,
limits usually rise.
Speaker 3: The amount of money you can get down on one.
Speaker 2: Of these college football games two weeks ago is nothing
compared to what you can get down tonight and tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And the betters know.
Speaker 1: That current line right now here the super book is
Ohio State minus one against Texas. Plenty of games ever
won in action pretty much this weekend, and then don't
forget now Sunday, we've got two games too. You got
to Virginia Tech in South Carolina. South Carolina is a
top thirteen team. And then when I think this is
gonna attract a lot of action, John four point thirty
Pacific time, Notre Dame in Miami. Oh we got the
battle the Catholic Zeros, the Convicts set back again. You know,
that's a huge game, two top ten teams squaring off.
Speaker 3: We got Alis Clemson tomorrow night too.
Speaker 1: That's another one, right, this is an.
Speaker 2: Incredible college football we Again, I think Notre Dame in
Miami it could end up being it probably will end
up being the most bet game of the weekend. Because
of the time slot of the Texas game, You're gonna
have so many parlays all day really today and of
course tomorrow going to that game. The same way you
see on a Sunday night football game during NFL where
all the parlays crash into this last game. I think
that's how the Notre Dame Miami game is gonna beat tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And we're planning the way we're.
Speaker 2: Booking Texas Ohio State at minus one o five, We're
gonna book Notre Dame in Miami at minus one o
five on the day of the game Sunday. So yeah,
I think that'll be the most that game we have
all week, even though we've seen some sharp players take
Miami plus three. We're keeping the number there for now
because we know how much Parley action is going to
go to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: All right, talk about quick the other games that are
seeing some action here on the college side for this weekend.
Speaker 2: LSU Clemson's the big game tomorrow night. That game's definitely
seeing money both ways. So we were at three, we
got up to four. There's been some money at plus
four on LSU. That's a good one for sure. Then
I mentioned Toledo Kentucky. How about the game tonight Auburn Baylor.
A lot of people on Baylor in that game. We
need Auburn pretty big right now. And that looks like
the best of the Friday slate, and right now it's
our biggest decision of the night.
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for you tonight.
Speaker 1: I hope you win it.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're always rooting for us. You would
never root against the super.
Speaker 1: Book, Marco, What is your reason for getting on the Tigers?
Speaker 4: For what I like to do first week of the season,
and you know my style of handicapping, I got it.
I like to see the team first week.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't.
Speaker 4: We can read all the hype, we can guess what
these teams are going to look like. We don't know
do we get there? But what I do like to
do is I like to go against the noise. And
I have not talked to a single person that does
not like Baylor coming into this season. And it's just.
Speaker 1: Understanding the reasons too. I mean from a coaching standpoint
and the personnel standpoint, Baylor makes sense. You know, off they.
Speaker 4: Won six they won six of their last seven games
last year. So everybody's you know, looking at that momentum
with it. I'm just still looking at it. This is
SEC versus Big twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Auburn's not your quality SEC if we're going
by you know, last year and again you know, coaching
changes and that sort of thing. I'm not on the game. Again,
I haven't made any wagers yet, but again I can
see that. But again, yes, huge games. Miami, Notre Dame,
like I said, Clemson, l s U, Ohio State, Texas.
What a week one.
Speaker 2: Forest Alabama, Florida. A lot of Florida is like the
forgotten football.
Speaker 1: Program and they're getting fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just remember two years ago Florida State
went undefeated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they went did to go to the whole.
Speaker 2: Season, they won their conference, didn't make the College Football Playoff,
and then I don't know what happened last year, but
they are still Florida State.
Speaker 1: You got it all right, John, appreciate the time. As
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