WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:09.960 You're listening to this program the inland Talk express. 2 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.640 The views and opinions expressed by individuals on the following 3 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.039 program do not necessarily reflect those of the network, Guys 4 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:21.640 Guy Radio and its platforms. 5 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:30.199 It's Guys Guy Radio. Here's your host, Robert Manny. 6 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.520 Welcome to Guys Guys Radio. This is your host, Robert Manny, 7 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.280 welcoming you to the show where men and women can 8 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:41.640 be at their best and everyone wins. 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And once again this week is no 14 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.960 accept Today we're going to talk about acting in Hollywood 15 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.799 and all kinds of stuff about the entertainment business with 16 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:12.319 the Hollywood icon legendary actor Eric Roberts, star of movies 17 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:16.239 such as Stared, Star eighty, The Pope of Greenwich Village, 18 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:20.239 Runaway Train, King of the Gypsies, Let's see what else, 19 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.840 The Dark Knight, a Batman movie, I Think It's My Party, 20 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:28.000 and so many others. Eric is just an amazing talent. 21 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.760 He's been in over seven hundred and fifty projects in counting, 22 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:35.079 and he's a really nice guy. And he's written a wonderful, 23 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:40.640 very telling, very open hearted book called Runaway Train or 24 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.280 the Story of My Life so Far. We're going to 25 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.719 be joined by Eric's lovely wife, Eliza, who's his creative 26 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.760 partner and manager, and also Mike Tove, who put together 27 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.840 a project called Yard Sailing, a short film that's on 28 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.760 the festival circuit now. Along with Eric and Eliza, so 29 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.959 a lot to talk about right here on Guys Guys Radio. 30 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.519 So strap in and get ready because we're going to 31 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:03.359 have some fun today. 32 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.400 It's Guys Guy Radio. 33 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:08.719 Okay, Guys Guys Radio. 34 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.120 It is the interview portion of our show, and today's 35 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.639 guests are one of Hollywood's most fascinating and enduring couples. 36 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.680 Eric Roberts has appeared in over seven hundred and fifty 37 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:21.319 films and TV projects, are an Academy Award and Golden 38 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.240 Globe nominations, and build a career unlike anyone else in entertainment. 39 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:29.360 Alongside him as actor, casting director, producer, and creative partner, 40 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:33.280 Eliza Roberts, who's on waivering support and perspective have helped 41 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:36.599 shape one of Hollywood's most remarkable love stories. And we're 42 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.680 also going to meet filmmaker Michael Toe, who, along with 43 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.800 Tom Logan, created and developed Yard Salting, which I just 44 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.680 watched today for the second time, a short film featuring 45 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.479 Michael Eric excuse me, Analyza. And today we're going to 46 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.120 discuss Eric's candidate and compelling autobiography that I just finished 47 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.560 called Runaway Train, a book that explores fame, family, addiction, redemption, resilience, 48 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.240 and the power of second chance and his ongoing legendary 49 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.199 actoring career, along with Eliza's perspectives, and Mike's journey to 50 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.000 getting a filmmate in Hollywood and these crazy days. 51 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:10.319 So welcome the three of you. 52 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.159 Welcome, Mike, Welcome, Eric, Welcome Eliza, the guys, Guys Radio. 53 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:15.319 I'm so thrilled to have you here. 54 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.879 I'm not used to having three juggling three at a time, 55 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:23.000 but we'll make a go of it. So Eric, before 56 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.560 we got on the air, Eric, you mentioned that Eliza 57 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.400 had scourged you to run to write Runaway Train. 58 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.199 Why now and why is the title Runaway Train? 59 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.280 Well, there is no why now, because it could be 60 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.960 why anytime, because for years the people said to me, 61 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.199 when' you gonna write your book? And I've said for years, 62 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:44.439 I'm not writing a book. And then and then all 63 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.199 my friends are coming to me, when you're you gonna 64 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.319 write your book? I'm not writing a book, guys. And 65 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.479 then and then publishers started calling me, when are you 66 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.680 going to write a book? I'm not writing a boat, guys. 67 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.240 My wife comes to me and goes, when are you 68 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:55.919 writing a book? 69 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:58.120 Now you're writing a book. 70 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:01.479 So he said to her, will you help me? And 71 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.199 just what do you mean? I said, well, I'm going 72 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.680 to embellish. I need help because I knew I would. 73 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.800 So I as editor and I wrote a book. Well, 74 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:16.120 it took me two years to write the book. I 75 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.360 did not name the book. The publisher named the book 76 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.839 because they said, Your Life is a Runaway Train. 77 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:26.199 And of course that's an Academy Award nominated film that 78 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.160 you were in, and you got a nod for Best 79 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.639 Actor in that. I believe we're best supporting, our best actor. 80 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:32.879 You and John Voyd were together. 81 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.399 He got a nod for Best Actor. I got a 82 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:36.639 nod for best supporting. 83 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:37.800 At Here You Go and a great film. And I 84 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:39.759 also watched that one with my son. He said, I 85 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.240 want to watch that again. Oh, I love that fantastic. 86 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.720 He's got really good taste. He's thirteen. So Eric's also 87 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.879 been in the Star of Popagrunner's Village, one of my 88 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:53.959 all time favorite movies with Mickey Rourke and Eric Dark Knight, 89 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.560 and Star eighty and so many other projects I believe 90 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.879 obviously over seven hundred and fifty. So you started out 91 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.240 New York and I think we're around the same age, 92 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:03.959 even though you look a lot better. But we were 93 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.560 in the Upper West Side of New York City back 94 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:08.879 around nineteen eighty or so, and it was very different. 95 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.680 You used to hang out at Cafe Central. I remember 96 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.879 there was a place called Ruel's on Columbus Avenue, and 97 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.360 I don't think people remember that the Upper West Side 98 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.639 was nowhere back then. Tell us about your experience back 99 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.519 there and how it shaped you for future performances. 100 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.160 Well, when I got hip to the Upper West Side, 101 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:31.160 it was nineteen seventy six. Okay, buy an entire roundstone 102 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.639 for forty thousand dollars that had water and no electricity, 103 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.199 And it was like that, and you could buy these 104 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.040 whole buildings for no money that had nothing in them 105 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.720 and you had to redo them, and everybody was doing that. 106 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.879 He having six, seven, eight, nine, eighty one, and two, 107 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.319 and by eighty two it started to get hip, and 108 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.439 by eighty five, eighty seven, eighty eight. 109 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.839 It was the place to be. Yeah, you know, I 110 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:56.360 just love the. 111 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.519 Upper West Side because it had it had the park, 112 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:01.639 but it was a little bit away from the action. 113 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.879 But then it became the action, so I left. 114 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:12.600 Now, you've experienced extraordinary highs and lows along your career. 115 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.240 Looking back, what period of your life was the most 116 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.639 difficulty for you to write about? Because I have to 117 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.000 tell everybody out there, first of all, read this book. 118 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.560 It's the best autobiography I ever read because it's so 119 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.279 from the heart. You just opened up and let it 120 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.319 out there, and there's things like WHOA, I. 121 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:28.279 Don't even Eliza. 122 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.399 Were you surprised at some of this stuff that was 123 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.120 that came out during the writing process a little bit? 124 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.120 And that's kind of fun because when you're married for 125 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.439 a long time, you're like, wow, do we know all 126 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:41.000 the stories new? And then to learn a couple of 127 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.519 new things or just new details was great. 128 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.879 So yes, I was surprised, like a great A great 129 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.319 face she made one day, shows you what you robbed 130 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:50.079 a drug. 131 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.720 Store that was kind of fun. 132 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.639 Now you draw on in your acting career. I forget 133 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.399 the name of the technique you mentioned in the book 134 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:00.959 where you know you can make yourself cry. 135 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:02.120 You think about something. 136 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.439 That happened earlier in life, and you had such a 137 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.240 tough childhood because you were getting it from both sides, 138 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:11.000 your mom and your dad. How how did you first 139 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.160 of all, how did you get through that? And secondly, 140 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.959 how do you draw off of that those experiences to 141 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:17.399 make you such a wonderful actor. 142 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:23.120 Well, thank you so much for all those kind words. Uh. Well, 143 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:27.480 I thought I invented method acting because I'm eight years 144 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.399 old and I realized I could make myself cry by 145 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.040 thinking of something that would make me cry. And so 146 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.439 I thought I invented method acting. And and I and 147 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.439 I and I told all the older kids about it, like, oh, guys, 148 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.040 I've got a great plan, and I would tell everybody 149 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.160 how to do it, and and and I and I 150 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.360 thought it was mine up until I got older and 151 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.680 found out it was just sence memory, and it had 152 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:55.519 been patented by many people many decades and before my birth. 153 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:56.759 But I didn't know. 154 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.279 That, and so I kind of looked at myself when 155 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.639 I got hit to that, I kinda I kind of 156 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.680 realized I was a born actor and and I just 157 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:08.959 wallowed him it. 158 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.360 Well, that sense memory. 159 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.759 I remember while I was watching popa Grienwish Village the 160 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:17.319 other day, there's a scene early on where Charlie and 161 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:21.120 Paulie get fired from the restaurant and and Paulie's giving 162 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.720 Charlie a hard time, and he's oats and he's got 163 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.160 the two bottles of Remy there, or the bottle of 164 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.360 Remy and his jacket. And at the end of the scene, 165 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:32.639 you there's a shot of him and there's a little 166 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:34.120 tear welled up in his eye. 167 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:35.679 Do you remember that? 168 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.679 And what what if so, what did you draw on 169 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.559 to to bring you that emotion? Because I read like, oh, 170 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.279 he's got he's giving Charlie a hard time, but there's 171 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:44.159 some shame there. 172 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:49.919 Well, that's the point you have to You have to 173 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:53.039 let the audience know that your character does know better, 174 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:58.720 or else they're unforgivable. And if they're unforgivable, they're they're 175 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:04.240 they're not unbraceable. And PAULI was such an f up 176 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.639 you had to embracing or you had it discarding, and 177 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.240 I was hell bent on making him very embraceable. 178 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.399 Now, I remember reading that you had a hard time 179 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.759 kind of pushing through your vision for Paulie, and I 180 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.840 admire you because in a lot of roles, you have 181 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.000 a vision for how you want to play the character 182 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:22.759 and you're very committed to it and you stick to 183 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:23.120 your gun. 184 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.519 So that's great. Now with Paulie, you got some. 185 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.360 Pushback because you made the character more a little bit 186 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.120 more a feminine, a little weaker than I don't say 187 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.120 a feminine in a bad way, but in like a 188 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.720 less masculine traditional It wasn't a macho guy, and you. 189 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:37.919 Had the perm and everything. 190 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.240 And then there was also you and Charlie would walk 191 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.559 arm in arm and I'm an Italian from New York 192 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.679 City and I know the village and I lived back there. 193 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.240 But that was cool that the way that you did that. 194 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.799 What was your thinking around that, because I know from 195 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.600 reading your book that Mickey had some type of issues 196 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:57.840 with that kind of behind the scenes, like he didn't 197 00:09:57.879 --> 00:09:59.960 know if he really was buying into the way you 198 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:00.840 were attacking the role. 199 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:01.919 Yet it worked perfectly. 200 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.320 Yeah, he He was a big help. By the way. 201 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.639 He was not a hindrance at all. You know, make Make, Make. 202 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:10.759 Mick was a team player for me in that role. 203 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.679 It was the first director who wasn't right. 204 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.639 Yeah, the first the guy they brought into to direct 205 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.759 the movie originally did not agree with my portrayal. He 206 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:21.720 thought it should be much tougher as is written and 207 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:25.440 blah blah blah. And I tried to reason with him 208 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.000 and said, no, but that's been done a lot, and 209 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.679 I want to play something different that we all know about. 210 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.519 And we all we all go, oh my god, yeah, 211 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.759 I've like seen that well and uh, and he didn't 212 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.440 want me to do it, so uh. They brought in 213 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.120 a another director, Shot Rosenberg, who directed a great movie. 214 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:48.159 The book was very good. Also. 215 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:49.399 I don't know if you had a chance to read 216 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:51.720 the novel, but it's a really good story, well written. 217 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.360 The book is one of my favorite books. It is 218 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.519 fantastic and it's exactly like our tween play. We're very 219 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.639 honest with the book. We're very we're loyal of the 220 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.840 book because the book kicks ass. 221 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:03.240 Dude. 222 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.039 Now, out of all your roles, what what one When 223 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.519 you think back and immediately say, this is that was 224 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.120 my that's it, that's my number one. Do you have 225 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:14.240 one or they like babies where you kind of love 226 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:15.559 them all in different ways? 227 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:20.200 Well, uh, I've got, I've got. I made many movies, 228 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.399 so I have many favorites. King of the Gypsies, Aby, 229 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:29.759 Runaway Train, It's My Party, Love is a Gun, Purgatory. 230 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.440 Those are my six favorites. 231 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:32.720 Really? Okay? 232 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.600 Uh? How come you choose them? You have them right 233 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.440 at the tip of your tongue there? What's what's the 234 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:38.600 what's the thinking? 235 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.360 Because they're they're oh, my brain's tip because I'm asking 236 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.080 this question a lot, but also because they they all 237 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:51.120 change my life, those parts, all those parts change personally. 238 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:55.000 Now as working actors, you and Eliza and now Mike, 239 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:56.600 it's so busy out there. 240 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:57.919 There's so many roles. 241 00:11:58.120 --> 00:11:58.759 Is this is this? 242 00:11:58.879 --> 00:11:59.399 What do you think? 243 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.639 What do you think of what's happened to Hollywood where 244 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.799 it's not as centralized anymore? That there's so much, so 245 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.240 many more, there's a need for stories. There's so many 246 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.840 more films and TV shows being made. I mean, I 247 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:11.799 guess it's great for a guy like you, But how 248 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.120 do you navigate that? And is it a good thing. 249 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.320 And how do you pick and choose because you've got 250 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.639 so many roles and I'm sure you haven't lined up 251 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.480 from like Eliza's got them lined up for you between 252 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:22.399 now and the end of the year. 253 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.720 I want to I want to interject something at the 254 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.799 top of that question. You called us working actors. We 255 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.039 called our school working actor. 256 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.360 Okay, fantastic. Where is the school that's right here? 257 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:36.039 You're looking at it. 258 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:41.840 Well, you teach, You teach every Saturday here in La Okay. 259 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:47.519 And also we do a lot of coaching and stuff. 260 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.159 So and we call it working actor because it's also 261 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.279 a double entendra besides the actual work as an artist. 262 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.200 We teach the business, the realities of the business, and 263 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.600 you know just how to filter through the advice you 264 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.519 get from your agents and from other friends, and what 265 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.519 our view is of how to do this job. 266 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:11.639 Okay, guys, guys radio, My special guests are Eric Robbers, 267 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.120 Eliza Robbers, and Mike Tobin. 268 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:14.559 Forgive me, Mike, we're going to get to you. 269 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.080 The reason I've been focused more on Eric and Eliza 270 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:18.559 now because they're going to have to jump at some 271 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.799 point in the broadcast. 272 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.519 And we'll know that's great because I'm just enjoying it. 273 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.039 So I love you, Mike. 274 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.360 Thanks. I love you guys too. 275 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.519 Now, Eliza, you have so many different roles, whether it's 276 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.960 manager of Eric and he sounds like he could be 277 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:38.279 a handful casting director, actor and mom and really kind 278 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:41.919 of the sun and the solar system of your family. 279 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:43.879 Is there one of those roles that you enjoy more 280 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:45.240 than the others are all equal? 281 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:49.720 Well, I mean, obviously the mom and grandma thaying is 282 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:53.279 just huge to the two legged creatures and also the 283 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:58.240 four legged creatures or various different kinds of animals Finns 284 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.440 and whatever. But you know, centrally, I'm I'm an actress 285 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.320 and and everything else kind of stems from there. So 286 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.000 casting was sort of a natural outgrowth of that, even 287 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:11.919 though it's not viewed that way or didn't used to be. 288 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.240 And and then managing Eric was, as you say, it 289 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.840 just it just seemed like we should bring this in house. 290 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.799 There was there, it was nobody had the sensitivity. It's 291 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.399 also just a lot you can't expect that of somebody. 292 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.639 And there's so many layers to managing an artist because 293 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.440 a lot of it has to do with, you know, 294 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.080 how they're feeling a lot of it is psychology, a 295 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.559 lot of it is emotional, and you know, there's just 296 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:42.799 it's it's a very holistic approach. So but I acting 297 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:43.759 is my thing. 298 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:44.799 Got it? 299 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.519 You know, the entertainment industry, it's often celebrates success, but 300 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:49.720 at how it struggles. 301 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:50.279 Eric. 302 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:53.679 What do what do you hope that readers experience from 303 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:57.960 your experiences from drug and addictions and recovery. What do 304 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.840 you want the readers to take away from this from 305 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:00.559 you your story? 306 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.679 Well, many many things, but but since you brought up 307 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:13.080 the the drug addiction to to let people know there 308 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.639 are second chances that you can start over, and you 309 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.240 can start over even better than you were before because 310 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.519 you're older, you know more, you have more, you've experienced more, 311 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.519 you understand yourself and and you stop lying to yourself. 312 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.639 At about at about thirty five thirty eight, you finally 313 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.320 get tired of line to yourself and you stop. You 314 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.600 just stop. When they get to go what was they doing? 315 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:40.679 And and you and you realize that you were but 316 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.200 you didn't know it when you were in it. But 317 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.320 once you're above it, and once you see it, it's 318 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.679 just an asset to understand. And then if you have 319 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.320 somebody then then then you can share it and you 320 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.039 can grow from it and you get oh yeah, and 321 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.960 you cannot repeat yourself because that's that that's the pitfall. 322 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.960 We repeat ourselves because we think we can get away 323 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.440 with it. Now you can't. You can't that. 324 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:07.279 Now. 325 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.720 I'm going to assume that a lot of this, a 326 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.840 lot of your personal struggles came from your family struggles, 327 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.039 and both of you really had tough family situations at times. 328 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.200 How did you manage to get through that and how 329 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.919 do you manage to put that into your work in 330 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:25.240 a constructive way? Because to me, you are nobody can 331 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.159 be you Eric or Eliza based on your experiences and 332 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:30.480 a lot of it I think comes out your personal 333 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:32.120 experience come out through your work. 334 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.360 Is that by design? 335 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.600 I'm gonna let you answer that, but uh, I just 336 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.799 have to say that that that that question. Everybody has 337 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.399 their story, everybody has an issue to deal with or many, 338 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.559 and it's how you how you do it that that 339 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:52.440 makes your winner or not. And my wife is my 340 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.600 whole understanding of myself. I saw myself through it from 341 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.600 many years until I can see myself from myself, and 342 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:05.079 she was very kind to me and I apparently needed 343 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.799 that because it altered me and it was it was 344 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.799 fun to do. 345 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.279 Do you want to add anything Aaliza to that? 346 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:17.319 Yeah, I you know, that's that's really true. Kindness is 347 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:22.519 like huge. Alice Miller wrote a book, well, many books, 348 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.680 but The Untouched Keys, and she explores whether trauma is 349 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:31.039 necessary in order to be creative and why some people 350 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.519 who you know, had some kind of abuse in their 351 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:39.640 childhood become serial killers and some people are fine. No 352 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:44.680 one's fine. But she explores that, and I really think 353 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:49.839 it's a matter of really starkly questioning what you're going for. 354 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.519 Some people, for instance, become parents because they want to 355 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.160 boss someone around. It doesn't come afterwards. It's not like 356 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:59.759 your parent. And then you find yourself bossing these kids. 357 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:02.839 That's kind of your drive. So I think we all 358 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.559 have to be really honest with ourselves about our drives. 359 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.839 And in that sense, you know, and that drive comes 360 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.160 a lot from how you process the stuff that happened 361 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.599 in early childhood and what you're still trying to do 362 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.880 even though it's you know, it's not fixable. You can't 363 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.319 you can't turn the clock back, you can't choose a 364 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:28.759 different family. When you have to figure out what path 365 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.039 that set you on, and that will really affect how 366 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.720 you play your characters, what characters you play, whether you 367 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.319 screw up your whole career, in your life and your relationships. 368 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.960 I mean, it's just a matter of really taking an 369 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.720 honest look not at the people who influenced you yourself. 370 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.119 Now, Eric, you passed on a couple of big roles 371 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.880 earlier in career. In your career, like Jesus, you were 372 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.319 going to work with Scorcese, and your manager talked to 373 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:53.480 you out of that, and I think there was a 374 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.960 few others mentioned in the book, and then you had 375 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.359 an opportunity, I think to work with Tarantino. It didn't 376 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:02.200 work out exactly the way you want it, but obviously 377 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.480 he's interested in you. Who are the folks that you 378 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.400 want to work with now, I mean, you've done it all, 379 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.519 you must have some like Okay, I still haven't gotten 380 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:10.799 that one. 381 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.279 I still haven't worked with this person. 382 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.240 Well, I hate, I hate, I hate naming people because 383 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:18.480 if you name one, you know you leave out three. 384 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:19.079 Right. 385 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:24.319 But but Tarantino and I have a date that's that's 386 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.240 yet to happen, and we we we need to make 387 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:27.720 it happen. 388 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:29.440 I think. 389 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.319 I like to see him work with Nancy Myers. See. 390 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:40.079 I mean that's like whole polar opposite end. But I mean, listen, 391 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.759 there's some fabulous directors coming up, you know, just coming 392 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.160 up through the ranks. There's there are It's true, there 393 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.359 are so many. There's so many times we go to 394 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:50.440 the movies that we see something on TV and I 395 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.440 go nuts, and he's like, I want to work with them. 396 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.000 Who aren't I got to work with that guy, that guy, 397 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:56.640 that girl. 398 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.440 I got to work with them, got to do it? 399 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.960 Whoever is doing Paradise instead of and we are aparently 400 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:02.640 with Sterling K. 401 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:03.000