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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Thursday edition of our show. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a day that we'll be remembered as the day

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<v Speaker 1>Jasper Johnson committed to play at the University of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wildcat coaching staff, Mark Pope and his guys apparently

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<v Speaker 1>flipping Jasper away from Alabama and back to the Bluegrass.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been at a prep school for the last year

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<v Speaker 1>or so, but of course matriculated at Woodford County High School.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where his father played, and of course was a

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<v Speaker 1>football Wildcat for three years before going on to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jasper one of the top basketball players, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top dozen in the country according to two four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven Sports. Travis Branham of two seven m ced

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<v Speaker 1>the event. Did a good job with it, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason we didn't start the broadcast as we

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<v Speaker 1>ordinarily would have with the announcement was it was really unconventional,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not unusual this day and age. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the hats thing. He did a sponsorship thing where

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<v Speaker 1>when Brandham asked him, where was he going to play now,

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<v Speaker 1>he invokes a couple of his sponsors.

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<v Speaker 2>Where will be playing college basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be at sad uh is the Denatos here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's supposed to have a put delivery from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Got delivery. He's got the phone out of the Domino's

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. They bring him the box and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear somebody say take your jacket off, and he

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<v Speaker 1>shows his shirt. This is Morgan and Morgan, and Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>and Morgan. And then comes the announcements that we all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knew was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be.

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<v Speaker 4>On I will be going to the UH.

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<v Speaker 1>So you never really got to hear him say the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Kentucky because he pulled the jersey out of

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<v Speaker 1>the box, and of course the fans all went nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of leaked out yesterday when the word came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and again several different places I heard it that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be at the football game this Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>with the UK basketball team. So yeah, you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a Kentucky Wildcat. Be kind of awkward

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<v Speaker 1>for him to not pick Kentucky and to come to

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<v Speaker 1>the football game. So and again. Travis Brannham from two

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven Sports on behalf of CBS Sports HQ,

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<v Speaker 1>conducting the interview at the table and asked the obvious question,

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<v Speaker 1>why Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of winning into it. I mean, coach

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<v Speaker 3>Cole you know, they had a short period of time

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<v Speaker 3>with the coaches switches. But I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he made a big commitment, take a lot of time

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<v Speaker 3>and spoke a lot with me, So I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the trust was there between me and him and the

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<v Speaker 3>coaches save and I mean being from leisas Tokit Techy,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like that was a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>easy decision right there. I mean, I feel like I'm khy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm ky until I die. Although there was a

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<v Speaker 1>point where, like I said, it did look like he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Alabama, and a lot of that had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the nil but and I came through.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course here in Kentucky, Donado's Morgan and Morgan and

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what else. But and you can't blame the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you never know when you're gonna blow a

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<v Speaker 1>knee or turn an ankle. So Jasper Johnson, as expected

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<v Speaker 1>for the last forty eight hours, is a Kentucky Wildcat.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got to think that they knew this by

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<v Speaker 1>now down in Alabama. Within the last forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But Johnson joins Malachi Mareno from this recruiting class, Travis Perry,

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Noah from last year's recruiting class. That's a core

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky players who will build with Mark Pope. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be here for a year, maybe they'll be here longer,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the very least, Mark Pope has got a

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<v Speaker 1>roster with Kentucky kids on it. And not a knock

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<v Speaker 1>on Cali Perry, because you would think that if Calip

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<v Speaker 1>Perry were here, he would have been going after these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew he went after Jasper Johnson. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>think he was going to go after Malachi Marino, he

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<v Speaker 1>was not interested in Trent Noah, and of course he

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<v Speaker 1>landed Travis Perry. But that's in the past. Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 1>is here now and he's got himself the makings of

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good recruiting class for looking at next season.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Jasper Johnson's got another entire seat easy to

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<v Speaker 1>play in prep school. It's a big day for the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats and again not unexpected, but put that on the

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<v Speaker 1>back burner for now because coming up tonight we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a lot of Kentucky football. Van Hiles will

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<v Speaker 1>join us at the bottom of the hour, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky defensive back. It was all over the radio, social

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<v Speaker 1>media breaking down Kentucky football. It's a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>talking football with van Lee. K. Howard from WKYT will

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<v Speaker 1>join us in our number two as well to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Wildcats, and we recorded that before the Jasper

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson announcement. You should know that we're also going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Reggie Anderson, who's the sports director of the

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<v Speaker 1>CBS TV affiliate down in Columbia. Get his take on

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on right now with the football game Cocks.

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<v Speaker 1>There is one other note in the college basketball world

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big story breaking earlier today. University of

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis has received an anonymous letter alleging the men's basketball

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<v Speaker 1>program has committed multiple potential major NCAA violations in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the first reaction for most people now

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<v Speaker 1>is well with nil with the portal, everything's legal now,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not. There are still rules to be followed,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently someone is alleging that Penny Hardaway and his

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<v Speaker 1>staff have broken rules. Now. Is it a coincidence that

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<v Speaker 1>on the same day the athletic department at Memphis announces

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<v Speaker 1>that multiple members of Penny Hardaway's coaching staff, and mind

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<v Speaker 1>you you know the basketball season is coming up fast,

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<v Speaker 1>he has let go fired Rick Stansbury, formerly the coach

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<v Speaker 1>at Campbellsville, formerly the head coach at Mississippi State, and

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<v Speaker 1>a top assisted at Memphis foragi Or Froggi Phillips, Jamie Rosser,

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<v Speaker 1>and Demetrius Dyson all let go before the twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty five regular season tips off. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the story in the Memphis Commercial Appeal, and rightly so

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<v Speaker 1>says it's not immediately clear whether there is any correlation

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<v Speaker 1>between the letter's existence and the recent personnel moves. The

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<v Speaker 1>Commercial Appeal obtained the letter, but did not yet independently

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<v Speaker 1>corroborate the contents of it. Alleged that Hardaway's involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>what could be significant violations in twenty twenty regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>recruitment of a former Memphis player and a second student

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<v Speaker 1>athlete who signed in twenty two but never played in

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<v Speaker 1>a game for the team. It's now hanging over the program.

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<v Speaker 1>So evidently it's a mess down there in Memphis, and

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Hardaway's got to scramble to put a staff together

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<v Speaker 1>less than two months out. Up next, we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the football Wildcats on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Bluonsidter coming up, Van Hiles, a former UK

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back. He breaks down Kentucky football. We'll spend some

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<v Speaker 1>time with us a little bit later on Lee K.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard from WKYT and we'll get a report from down

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<v Speaker 1>in Columbia, South Carolina. Yesterday was Defense Day, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to hear from Brad White over UK

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<v Speaker 1>football practice and a couple of the defensive players. And

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<v Speaker 1>I asked White what concerns him the most about the

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina offense, and the first thing he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>was the offensive coordinator Dow Logans for South Carolina. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>they go way back, and Logans is a veteran OC.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I know dwe you know, he's a friend

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<v Speaker 5>of mine, and he does a really you know, extensive experience,

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<v Speaker 5>does a great job calling games, setting up games, and

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<v Speaker 5>so he's gonna have those guys ready to play, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a really talented quarterback, yes, one that may had some

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<v Speaker 5>first game jitters anticipate him coming in ready just to

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<v Speaker 5>really delight it up, you know, and he's got all

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<v Speaker 5>the tools. He's got the arm strength, he's got the

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<v Speaker 5>legs obviously. You know, Rocket Sanders there in the backfield,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, is a proven commodity, and you know they've

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<v Speaker 5>got weapons on the outside edge. The tight ends I

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<v Speaker 5>think are really good players. So you talk about good

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<v Speaker 5>players with good scheme, you know, and play calling, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got our work cutout for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Games played college football at Arkansas, but began his

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<v Speaker 1>coaching career in the NFL. He was a quality control

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<v Speaker 1>coach for the Tennessee Titans, and from twenty oh eight

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<v Speaker 1>until what twenty twenty he he worked in the NFL for,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, the Titans, the Browns, the Bears, the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets as either a quarterbacks coach or an offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason he moved around a lot for like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of NFL assistants is head coaches kept getting

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<v Speaker 1>fired or offensive coordinators moved on or whatever. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was tight with a guy named Adam Gaze. When Lol

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<v Speaker 1>Gaines was out of work, he would hire him because

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<v Speaker 1>he likes the way he coaches, obviously, and take him

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<v Speaker 1>with to whoever he was. So he has really experienced

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pro game, but then he went back to

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<v Speaker 1>his alma mater in twenty twenty one Arkansas. For two

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<v Speaker 1>seasons was the tight ends coach for the Hogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>then last year and this he's the offensive coordinator and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coach for South Carolina. He has a dual threat

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback who's got a strong arm and can run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>Lenorris Sellers. So we talked a couple of the players

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<v Speaker 1>about what it's gonna take to be gap disciplined and

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<v Speaker 1>handle a guy like that. Trayvon Ripka is a defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean everything starts with our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach.

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<v Speaker 6>Coach preaches that every coach from the defense from the

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<v Speaker 6>D line to top of the defense preach bad eyes

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<v Speaker 6>and gets you in trouble. So just staying disciplined with

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<v Speaker 6>our eyes will help them make plays and do what

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<v Speaker 6>we're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of us who haven't yet played D line

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<v Speaker 1>in college, what does that mean? Good eyes, bad eyes?

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<v Speaker 6>Good eyes? Uh, you can't beat you can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 6>make a play until you beat the guy in front

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<v Speaker 6>of you. So if I don't whoop my tackle, I

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<v Speaker 6>can't go shed and make make a play in the

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<v Speaker 6>backfield because I haven't did my job in front of

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<v Speaker 6>me yet, So I'm ready, Yes, sir, I think you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Trayvon Ripka, Kentucky defensive lineman. Zion Childress is a

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky defensive back and talked about how quickly Kentucky's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to move from non conference to a big SEC game.

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<v Speaker 7>Going to the SEC week two, you gotta be ready quick,

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<v Speaker 7>and so we're ready to play. We're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina's got a different personnel this year. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>guys do too, but they've got you the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years. Is that something you think about going into

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<v Speaker 2>this game?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely? Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>I was on the phone one of my friends the

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<v Speaker 7>other day. He said, Man, I don't think you beat

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<v Speaker 7>South Carolina since you've been a Kentucky and I haven't.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh So, definitely puts a chip on our shoulder. But man,

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<v Speaker 7>we gotta put the ball down. We gotta play ball

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<v Speaker 7>for four quarters, and we gotta be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 7>They got some good players over there. We got some

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<v Speaker 7>good players, but were ready to go for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you prepare for a mobile quarterback like Leonora's sellers.

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<v Speaker 7>Zion, Oh, you gotta be disciplined, you gotta do your assignment,

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<v Speaker 7>and you gotta be gap sound. You know, he's a

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<v Speaker 7>good athlete, he's a good football player. We have a

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<v Speaker 7>bunch of good football players too, So we're ready for

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<v Speaker 7>We we have to be prepared for them to use

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<v Speaker 1>I like how you can hear snapping his fingers at

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<v Speaker 1>So well, they sound like they are, but we have

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Gators fan. Even more bad news, Graham Mertz

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend, so Lagway came in, got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>yards on the ground. He was the number eight player

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<v Speaker 1>it should be a good one. The Ravens visiting the

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<v Speaker 1>My Packers play tomorrow night and they play in South Paulo, Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>where they have beefed up security for their game with

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<v Speaker 1>as I am, why in the world are you playing there?

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<v Speaker 1>No disrespect, but of course there are there are issues there.

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of civilian and military police will be deployed for

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<v Speaker 1>play in a South American country. Keep in mind, Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>technically Mexico is part of North America. But military police

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<v Speaker 1>will be used to escort the team's buses to their hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>training grounds, and stadium and have been over the last

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<v Speaker 1>on high after Ricky pearsall the Niners rookie receiver, was

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. They're gonna be trained dogs at the

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<v Speaker 1>for you that happens at every NFL stadium and just

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<v Speaker 1>about every college stadium in America. But they're gonna have helicopters,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have drones, and they're also gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>of violence. So let's just hope that the football is

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<v Speaker 1>the only headline that happens throughout that game. One other

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<v Speaker 1>note before we hit the break. Jamar Chase practiced yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals. That was the key day. If he

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<v Speaker 1>he participated in the first official practice of game week. Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, open up against the Patriots on Sunday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those Patriots. They are the reason that everybody in survivor

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<v Speaker 1>leagues throughout the world, everybody picking the Bengals, everybody playing

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<v Speaker 1>it safe. He goes it says right here, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way the Patriots beat the Bengals. So Chase listed as

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<v Speaker 1>a limited participant in his first practice course he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a contract dispute happening. They talk about a mild injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's all about the contract, and he and fellow

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<v Speaker 1>last ones to walk out to practice. They walked out

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of Bengal assistant coaches and there was

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow waiting to welcome them with open arms. So

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<v Speaker 1>if this drags on, we'll see if it affects the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't go as far as they want, obviously back

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<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl in my opinion. Without Chase, he

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<v Speaker 1>did not participate in any training camp or team practices

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part while he's been working on this

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<v Speaker 1>contract negotiation. So keep an eye on that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you are if you're a Bengals fan. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>Van Hiles on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Sider joining us now one of our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite guests because we always learn football from mister Van Hiles,

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<v Speaker 1>former Kentucky defensive back now just becoming a media megastar,

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<v Speaker 1>co host of The Locker four to one one driving

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<v Speaker 1>with Styles. You hear him Monday morning quarterback segments with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach. That's a big show. And you know Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>morning sports talk. You're everywhere. Man, You're massive now.

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<v Speaker 8>So for I appreciate that. I'm so for from massive,

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, it is awesome to be able to talk

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<v Speaker 8>Kentucky football. Never would have thought this in a million years.

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<v Speaker 8>This is what I will be even part time doing

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<v Speaker 8>so out. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I noticed you a couple three years ago on

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<v Speaker 1>social media having a good time with the cutups, and

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<v Speaker 1>people heard you on this show and they said they

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<v Speaker 1>started calling, Hey, you got Van's phone number. So and

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many people really know about your grilling

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<v Speaker 1>capabilities because you have now I believe maybe I missed

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier. Changed your background photo on your Twitter account.

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<v Speaker 1>You got shots of what is his brisket ribs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Tips?

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<v Speaker 9>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>On those tips?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 8>Those are tips?

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<v Speaker 1>And then barbecued pork. Is that a pull pork?

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<v Speaker 8>That's pull pork?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You see. And you need to be proud of me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not a red meat guy, but I respect

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<v Speaker 1>the grilling. It's fantastic. Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's definitely funny. It's fun for me. It gives

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<v Speaker 1>When you're cooking and it's relaxing. I know we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back to that. I need to leave myself. I just forget.

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<v Speaker 1>I get so involved in football, I forget to leave

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<v Speaker 1>time for the grilling. So I'm not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>away the story because you need to follow Van on

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<v Speaker 1>social media to find out how he broke down the video.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start with your favorite side of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>defense And there were some question marks, especially the corner

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<v Speaker 1>opposite Maxwell Harston. What did you see And granted you

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<v Speaker 8>Have exactly that. That is the thing. There's some good

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<v Speaker 8>and there were some bad. To me, the most important

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<v Speaker 8>thing for corners is one is great discipline, great eyes,

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<v Speaker 8>and then it's confident. Yeah, and I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 8>JQ is one hundred percent confident on game day because

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<v Speaker 8>So I think he needs to get get feel a

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<v Speaker 8>he will be to become even better because this show.

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<v Speaker 8>As the game went on, he kind of settled in

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<v Speaker 1>How can you tell that his confidence might not be

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<v Speaker 8>Be, because the thing about this back is when some

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<v Speaker 8>throw a pass and a touchdown, well that guy messed up.

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<v Speaker 8>And a lot of times on this level, you don't

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<v Speaker 8>sure even though the ball's in your air, right a

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<v Speaker 8>guy rather fire or hit you see the ball in

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<v Speaker 8>the air. You just want to make sure that maybe

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<v Speaker 8>to the ball is not what I think it should

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<v Speaker 8>be or could be. And then on I think they

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<v Speaker 8>threw another pass. They're coming out of the end zone,

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<v Speaker 8>I think there was one pass who was slower, and

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<v Speaker 8>then the second pass that was to his side, he

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<v Speaker 8>broke much faster than next past. He made a good

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<v Speaker 8>So he has the potential, he just needs to settle

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<v Speaker 2>You never know.

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<v Speaker 1>Got himself a pick though, That's got to go a

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<v Speaker 8>And he owes d Jack something. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 8>those guys get for picks, but whatever he gets, he

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<v Speaker 8>should get half of it to Djack because d Jack

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<v Speaker 8>made He made probably one of the most underrated great

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<v Speaker 8>plays by instile linebacker that you would get from an

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I talked with trayvon Rivko about I disciplined

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<v Speaker 1>a practice yesterday and I was pretty sure I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what it menment had him really explained it. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course he's coached by the great Anne war Stewart. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think of the discipline of the front four?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, when if you don't watch the game and

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<v Speaker 8>you are a stat group as I call them, if

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<v Speaker 8>you if you see a team only your five yards

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<v Speaker 8>Russian that just automatically knows shows you that that defensive

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<v Speaker 8>sure they had a over ten yards of more. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>pretty sure they didn't. And if you can hold I

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<v Speaker 8>don't care who you're playing on Saturdays, SCS, SBS, whatever,

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<v Speaker 8>if you can limit them the five yards Russian, your

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<v Speaker 1>If you can limit somebody the five yards in the

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<v Speaker 8>Right, exactly exactly someone and someone's gonna mess up eventually,

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<v Speaker 8>and no one did to give them a layer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Jeff Percoro made a great point after the game

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<v Speaker 1>on our broadcast when again looking at stats, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you call them? A stat stats? What status? Yahoo?

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<v Speaker 8>I come on, stat goofies, stat goofies.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you looked at Dion Walker, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, You're gonna see zeros right, But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean he had a bad game.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I mean that same way Max didn't have probably

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<v Speaker 8>a great numbers on paper. Here's the thing with defensive

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<v Speaker 8>line is there are five offensive alignments, and we really

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<v Speaker 8>have three defensive alignments. We'll walk down J. J. Weaver,

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<v Speaker 8>So now they have five on three. If you have

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<v Speaker 8>to double team d On now there's four on three.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that means someone is single block. That single guy

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<v Speaker 8>who's blocked should create habit. The other thing is, when

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<v Speaker 8>there's four on three, never got two linebackers, probably both them.

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<v Speaker 8>Linebackers don't have a lineman on them because two are

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<v Speaker 8>on d on So with him not having a great

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<v Speaker 8>status of a great thing on paper, the thing about

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<v Speaker 8>look at everybody else, look at the linebackers. If you

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<v Speaker 8>have linebackers getting tackles, that means the front three is

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<v Speaker 8>doing their job because their job is really to be

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<v Speaker 8>a tackler. Their job is to gobble up block and

435
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<v Speaker 8>a lot of those two linebackers to roam freely and

436
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<v Speaker 8>make tackles, and they did a good job of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Isn't it as a tactful? I mean it is, I

439
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<v Speaker 8>bet you right now. Pop was like, this product feels

440
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<v Speaker 8>like when he was at Georgia he didn't have anybody

441
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<v Speaker 8>on his toes. And DJ's like, man, this is a

442
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<v Speaker 8>great game because man, I had no one blocking me either.

443
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<v Speaker 8>It is a great game when no one's on your

444
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<v Speaker 8>inside linebackers.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction when USM was three for three

446
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<v Speaker 1>on third downs to open the game.

447
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<v Speaker 8>I was like in a moment when it happened live,

448
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<v Speaker 8>I was not happy, No, it was just bad things happened.

449
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<v Speaker 8>But then here's the thing, as thin I talked about,

450
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<v Speaker 8>is when I looked at the filmily, Okay, these are

451
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<v Speaker 8>just mental mistakes. I can hark him back to the

452
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<v Speaker 8>nineteen hundreds when we just didn't have the talent to

453
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<v Speaker 8>even whole team. Sometimes this team has the talent now,

454
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<v Speaker 8>they just got us threw the screws little tire between

455
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<v Speaker 8>the years, and those things wouldn't happen because they played

456
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<v Speaker 8>great on neighbors in the plays. But the couple plays

457
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<v Speaker 8>you give up a big plays like don't give up

458
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<v Speaker 8>thirty yard pass plays, fifteen to twenty yard pass plays,

459
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<v Speaker 8>those can't happen if you give up an eight yard run.

460
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<v Speaker 8>This team is really good on third and short. We'll

461
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<v Speaker 8>see that in the past few years. Get them a

462
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<v Speaker 8>third and third down, and then let's when do not

463
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<v Speaker 8>make minim mistakes, because minim mistakes are worse than a

464
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<v Speaker 8>physical mistake. And we had a couple of mental breakdowns

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<v Speaker 8>in the US them had chances to potentially score because

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<v Speaker 8>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so odd to hear you refer to the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds when you played, but that is literally correct. I

469
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<v Speaker 1>mean you played in the mid nineties. I mean it

470
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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're saying, like back in nineteen twenty or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old, brother, but I'm not that old. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Van Hiles, former Kentucky defensive back and the guy

473
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<v Speaker 1>who hosts several presentations of Kentucky football as he breaks

474
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<v Speaker 1>him down on social media. We'll come back with more

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<v Speaker 1>questions for Van in just a minute. Here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>with Van Hiles, former Kentucky defensive back and now media

478
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<v Speaker 1>megastar on social media. Coast to the Locker four one one,

479
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<v Speaker 1>host of Driving with Styles. You hear him on the

480
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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leech Report every Monday. You hear him on Sunday

481
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<v Speaker 1>Morning Sports Talk. Actually they get it you first. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's got to be a lot of fun to break

483
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<v Speaker 1>things down with Tom on Monday morning. But we talked

484
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of defense prior to the break. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about Brock vander Riff. Are you surprised that Bush Hampden

486
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<v Speaker 1>had him run the ball so much?

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<v Speaker 8>Honestly, not really. Now, I play quarterback for a long time,

488
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 8>so I got to college and for me, I like

489
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<v Speaker 8>to get hit because it gets you into the game.

490
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<v Speaker 8>It gets your juices flooring. Now there are a couple,

491
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<v Speaker 8>maybe one or two too many, not in a bad way,

492
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<v Speaker 8>but uh maybe, But those quarterback runs were That first

493
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<v Speaker 8>quarterback run was immaculate as far as play call, as

494
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 8>far as the formation that was given. I love giving

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<v Speaker 8>your quarterback a chance to get in the Florida game early.

496
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<v Speaker 8>And the Florida game doesn't also mean just giving you

497
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<v Speaker 8>a short pass to get your confortence on throwing. Florida

498
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<v Speaker 8>game is to get hit a time or two that

499
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<v Speaker 8>is not a sack. So I actually liked it, so

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't have a problem. I mean, the kid is

501
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<v Speaker 8>obviously he's he's a kid who who loves it himselves

502
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<v Speaker 8>because he didn't back down from anything.

503
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<v Speaker 1>But he needs a slide more, doesn't.

504
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<v Speaker 8>He see I'm honestly, I'm not a fly guy. Here's

505
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<v Speaker 8>the reason I'm not a slide guy is when you

506
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 8>baseball slide, you really give yourself up to a potential concussion.

507
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 8>If a guy comes and hits you in the chest,

508
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<v Speaker 8>your head is gonna snap back. I'm really afraid of that.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Now.

510
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<v Speaker 8>I don't like him not protecting himself from the first one.

511
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<v Speaker 8>The safety came up and hit him on that thigh.

512
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<v Speaker 8>That's that's not He's got to protect himselves a little

513
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<v Speaker 8>better than that. But other than that, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 8>anything wrong with any of the other ones except for

515
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<v Speaker 8>for that one. That one was a that was what

516
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<v Speaker 8>was was brutal.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I see what you're saying. And you know,

518
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<v Speaker 1>everybody remembers Will Levice who was bigger, but Vanders not

519
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<v Speaker 1>small by any means. But just like running backs, they

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<v Speaker 1>get down behind their pads right and really protect themselves

521
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<v Speaker 1>that way, don't they exactly?

522
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<v Speaker 8>Now, if he's close to the sideline, run out a bound,

523
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<v Speaker 8>don't try to get actually yard in the half and

524
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<v Speaker 8>try to no no, no, no, get down.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the middle field.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think he got a little lost in

527
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<v Speaker 8>the play the first one. But that was another one

528
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<v Speaker 8>I think where it was a little confusion and where

529
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<v Speaker 8>he was going for the course back draw and he

530
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<v Speaker 8>got hit going towards the Craft Center building and someone

531
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<v Speaker 8>came in, like third in and got a good lick

532
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<v Speaker 8>at them butt. That wasn't a look that you're going

533
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<v Speaker 8>to be concerned it. It just looks good. But he

534
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 8>does have pats on that flastic is very is very protective.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, South Carolina coming in has a little bit more

536
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<v Speaker 1>or a lot more than Southern Miss, So I wonder

537
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<v Speaker 1>if we'll see as much of that. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>team with a dual threat quarterback. And I'm sure you

539
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<v Speaker 1>were a dual threat quarterback too, and you're a QB,

540
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<v Speaker 1>weren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And that's the.

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<v Speaker 8>Bad thing about for a defense is you're playing with

543
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<v Speaker 8>eleven all the time. Now, you're not playing with ten.

544
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<v Speaker 8>A quarterback that doesn't hand the ball off and then

545
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<v Speaker 8>looks at what the running back is running. Even if

546
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 8>he hands the ball off the running back, if a

547
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<v Speaker 8>quarterback does a great playfake off of it, he's going

548
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<v Speaker 8>to take somebody with them because of the fact that

549
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 8>he can pull the ball off the face. You are

550
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 8>actually playing with eleven on eleven. If he runs, he's

551
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 8>got an extra block in front of him. Those are

552
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<v Speaker 8>the things that can be harmful if the defense is

553
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 8>not disciplined. Goes back to the trip option, the verer,

554
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 8>the midline like all that stuff makes the defense be disciplined,

555
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 8>and not just a couple of them. It makes everyone

556
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 8>from the defensive line to the linebackers and the secondary.

557
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 8>Whoever has pitch has pitched. Whoever has quarterback has quarterback.

558
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<v Speaker 8>So that's the thing about is that when he goes

559
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 8>and extend plays, not everybody has to be on that

560
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 8>piece and keys because the player is going to last

561
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<v Speaker 8>through the four seconds longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that was the word of the

563
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>day yesterday talking to the UK defensive guys. With discipline,

564
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't try to do too much. I remember Mike

565
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Archer when he was here pulling with little hair that

566
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 1>he had, pulling it out of his head because too

567
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>many guys were trying to do too much instead of

568
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>just taking care of their gap. Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I don't want to say the words he used

570
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 8>to say it for this basicly do your job. Do

571
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 8>your job because you're playing. This is not high school.

572
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 8>But the guy's next to you might not be as talented.

573
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<v Speaker 8>Everybody on this defensive scholarship player they have talented. Let

574
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.160
<v Speaker 8>them handle their job and you handle your job. If

575
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 8>they mess up, let me yell at them and not

576
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 8>yell at him in you because now we got two

577
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 8>guys messing up. So yes, that was big during my

578
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 8>days with CoA Storch.

579
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 1>He asked me once because he would see me in

580
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 1>my role as sidelines reporter, kind of hovering behind the

581
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>bench trying to pick up something to report on, and

582
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 1>we made eye contact one day and he asked me

583
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>a practice. He said, Hey, they can't hear me on

584
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that microphone of yours, can they? I said, Coach, what

585
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I do is I turn it off. I put my

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00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 1>hand over the top of the mic, and I put

587
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it behind my back. So I'm triple covered when it

588
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to protecting America from what you're saying to these guys.

589
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 1>But he knew his defense. I know that We're talking

590
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to Van Hiles, former Kentucky d back and football analyst

591
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 1>on social media. Talk to me a little bit about

592
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's run game, because it's gonna be a lot tougher

593
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 1>to run between the tackles. Saturday afternoon. What did you

594
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<v Speaker 1>see last week?

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<v Speaker 8>I thought they played really well. There were a couple

596
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 8>of leakages. I mean, obviously here, you're not gonna be

597
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 8>perfect because the other guy across from you is also

598
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 8>good and he's gonna do thing that on paper that

599
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 8>you might not have seen. So overall, I thought the

600
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<v Speaker 8>run at was was it was great. I mean, just

601
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 8>think about it. I think every back everage seven yards

602
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 8>of carriage. If you take away Willcox's first carry, which

603
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 8>was a great play by them, more than a fought

604
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 8>by us, he would have had seven yards per carry.

605
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<v Speaker 8>If you can look at stat and see all your

606
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 8>running back to seven years of carry, that's a win.

607
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 8>So now they're gonna be tested a lot more with

608
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 8>this South Carolina front for but let's see what they

609
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 8>can do. I think as coach Milk and coach Archie,

610
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<v Speaker 8>both of them used to say the biggest improvement coach

611
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 8>curves from week one to week two. So if they

612
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 8>played well week one, I think they're gonna play even

613
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 8>better next week.

614
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's that's a classic football tradition, week one to

615
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<v Speaker 1>week two. All right, I'm gonna wrap football discussion a

616
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<v Speaker 1>little a little early because I wanted to leave time

617
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<v Speaker 1>for grilling. Did we grill this past Saturday?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes? I was this weekend. I can't remember what dad is.

619
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<v Speaker 8>Yes I did. I actually did some steak and normally

620
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 8>I reversed there my steak on the grill been happening,

621
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 8>not problems, but not the greatest result because I have

622
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 8>an offset smoker, so the temperature inside I wasn't staying

623
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 8>at about four to five. It was just taking too long.

624
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 8>So I actually brought it inside. I I put my

625
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 8>cast iron skilly in the oven, and I took it

626
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 8>out of the oven, put on top of the grill.

627
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<v Speaker 8>I'm on top on top of the oven, on the

628
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<v Speaker 8>on the eye en. That worked great, So I'm very

629
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<v Speaker 8>happy with that result. I'm going to try that again,

630
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<v Speaker 8>probably soon, to make sure it's the deal.

631
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<v Speaker 1>People who are serious about their grilling need a cast

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<v Speaker 1>iron skillet, don't they. That's a vital, vital.

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<v Speaker 8>If you are a cook, you need a cast iron skiller.

634
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<v Speaker 8>My grandmother had, like I can't remember how many.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>No, if you don't have a yes, If you don't

637
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<v Speaker 8>have a cast iron skill, that I don't, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>claim you. Well, I guess a Southern cook. I mean

639
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<v Speaker 8>I don't know the other cooks, but in the South

640
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<v Speaker 8>every cook cast iron skill at least two yeah.

641
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And and there's there are ways to clean them and

642
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<v Speaker 1>take care of them, right, you don't just them in

643
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<v Speaker 1>a pot of water.

644
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<v Speaker 8>Minis thirds about people messing up are perfectly seasoned cast

645
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<v Speaker 8>iron skilly because and that's it doesn't look great, but

646
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<v Speaker 8>that that's thirty years of work to get that thing

647
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<v Speaker 8>to look like that. Yes, do not just throw that

648
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<v Speaker 8>in in a dishwasher or leave doll that's that's that's

649
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<v Speaker 8>a mil NOTLK.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talked before about how to blacken food, and

651
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<v Speaker 1>you got to have a cast iron skillet. So there's

652
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of info on the internet about that. A

653
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<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes le of advance. So tell me what's

654
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<v Speaker 1>on the menu for this weekend. I assume you're planning

655
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<v Speaker 1>a big one.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm supposed to do brisket and pool port because I

657
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<v Speaker 8>have a high school game on Friday, so I'm gonna

658
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<v Speaker 8>chill out on probably Saturday or Sunday morning and spend

659
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<v Speaker 8>that fourteen hours watching TV and making sure those two

660
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<v Speaker 8>meats turn out well. And what are you cooking again,

661
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<v Speaker 8>brisket and pull port? I have a Yeah, I have

662
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<v Speaker 8>a big offset smoker. So once I do one, I

663
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<v Speaker 8>just do two at a time, or three at a time.

664
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<v Speaker 8>I just vacuum steal the rest of it and put

665
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<v Speaker 8>in a freezom I hear more and.

666
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<v Speaker 1>More people cooking brisket. Is that just become a thing

667
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<v Speaker 1>or has that always been big?

668
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<v Speaker 8>You go, so, sure, yeah, it's been big with me.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I'm not sure why people are cooking more brisket.

670
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<v Speaker 8>That's a good one because it takes forever to actually,

671
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<v Speaker 8>if you're grilling it, forever to cook it. So I'm glad.

672
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<v Speaker 8>It's a hard meat to perfect just because of the

673
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<v Speaker 8>toughness of it, and it takes some time to get

674
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<v Speaker 8>because sometimes it's more of a feel like you have

675
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<v Speaker 8>your temperature controls, or sometimes those temperature controls are not

676
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<v Speaker 8>one hundred percent acurate. You have to touch and fell it.

677
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<v Speaker 8>So sometimes it can frustrate you because you might have

678
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<v Speaker 8>undercooked it or overcooked it because there is a sweet spot.

679
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<v Speaker 8>So you have to get comfortable and maybe pushing the

680
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<v Speaker 8>envelope a little bit or maybe that I think it's okay,

681
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<v Speaker 8>let's let it rest and build it that way. It's tough.

682
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<v Speaker 1>Now, one of these days, when you have time, you

683
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<v Speaker 1>need to just put together a regular grilling feature on

684
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<v Speaker 1>social media. Now that you've got the following that you

685
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>have from football, I know I'm creating more work for you,

686
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>but why hide your lamp? Under a bushel basket. You know.

687
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm not sure how you even do that. Somebody

688
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<v Speaker 8>would have to give me the idea of how I

689
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<v Speaker 8>would do that on social media with the two minutes

690
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<v Speaker 8>and twenty seconds that they forced you to maybe YouTube.

691
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<v Speaker 1>You got plenty of time on YouTube.

692
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<v Speaker 8>I guess. Yeah, we'll talk.

693
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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk, okay.

694
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<v Speaker 1>Vanhius, former Kentucky d back who breaks down UK football

695
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<v Speaker 1>on social media. Follow him on Twitter x at V

696
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<v Speaker 1>Style seventeen. Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you next week.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, anytime you need me I'll be here.

698
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<v Speaker 1>I told you we would learn football from Van. We

699
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<v Speaker 1>always do up next hour number two, Lee K. Howard

700
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<v Speaker 1>from WKYT and my buddy Reggie Anderson from a TV

701
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 1>station down in Columbia. We'll fill us in on those

702
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<v Speaker 1>game cocks. That's all ed here on the Big Blue

703
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<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirty WOAP. Welcome back joining us on our

704
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>celebrity hotline as a longtime friend and colleague and a

705
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>member of the media who covers UK sports, and that

706
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>is Lee K. Howard and I saw Leek at practice

707
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and it wasn't It was kind of weird, was it?

708
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<v Speaker 1>And not having a complete game to refer to, you know,

709
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and we talked to Brad White and the defensive players.

710
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<v Speaker 1>I found it weird.

711
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<v Speaker 2>It was a little bit weird, you know. And we're

712
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<v Speaker 2>used to now seeing Kentucky play SEC competition early in

713
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the year, but we've never seen him play SEC competition

714
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 2>after less than three quarters of football, so this is

715
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<v Speaker 2>kind of a unique situation, you know. That game was

716
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that they were able to get in some

717
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 2>of the game, and I think we were able to

718
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<v Speaker 2>see a good amount of what Kentucky can be and

719
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<v Speaker 2>what at least the first string looks like. I think

720
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<v Speaker 2>the thing we really missed out on, or the team

721
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>really missed out on, is getting some of those second

722
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<v Speaker 2>string guys more reps. And I think that's one of

723
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.159
<v Speaker 2>the goals when you play a team like Southern miss

724
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>is trying to get some more guys in because I

725
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 2>really think that we're about a series away from seeing

726
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>what Gavin wims That could do getting in there, maybe

727
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<v Speaker 2>even some more Jason Patterson at running back right now,

728
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<v Speaker 2>because you know, they're kind of a committee running back

729
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 2>group right now with Demi and Jason and Jamrian while

730
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<v Speaker 2>they wait on Chip train them to get back. So

731
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<v Speaker 2>that's the one thing that I think was left to

732
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<v Speaker 2>be desired after that game, was getting some of those

733
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>second string guys more reps, because as you know, you

734
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 2>jump into SEC competition right away, you're going to need

735
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<v Speaker 2>to be more than one unit deep. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one thing I kind of took away from.

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<v Speaker 1>That before we start getting into the issues of the

738
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<v Speaker 1>running game and how to stop a dual threat quarterback.

739
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<v Speaker 1>This South Carolina series, I believe, is becoming a rivalry.

740
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<v Speaker 1>They're not just rivalries because they're on the schedule, but

741
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it's because of obviously what has happened through the years,

742
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>and this one has gone back and forth, which good

743
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>rivalries do. It's not geographical, but it's such an important

744
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 1>game for both teams, and both teams have had success

745
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of others, and there's a little bit

746
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of juice to this one. We're the coaches and all that.

747
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<v Speaker 1>Do you see it that way?

748
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<v Speaker 2>I do? You know? Of course, when the head ball

749
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 2>coach was Roman Pipeline there at South Carolina and famously

750
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>say Weil Kentucky's got a good punter. But there was

751
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a time that South Carolina dominated the rivalry from two

752
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 2>thousand to two thousand and nine, South Carolina won ten

753
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>in a row, and then Kentucky won that twenty ten game,

754
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and then I believe South Carolina won the next two

755
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>or three. So yeah, there was a time when South

756
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<v Speaker 2>Carolina really had the upper hand. But then when Stoops

757
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>came in. I still remember that that game where Bud

758
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<v Speaker 2>Dupree at the interception runs it back for a touchdown

759
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was almost felt like a change of the guard.

760
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<v Speaker 2>And since twenty thirteen, Kentucky has won seven of ten

761
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<v Speaker 2>against Carolina. But then you know, if you know it's

762
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>like stats, any any way you look at it, you

763
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>can twist them. He's also lost the last two against

764
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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. But you're right, this is these are two

765
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<v Speaker 2>programs in a way, and I don't mean this as

766
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<v Speaker 2>a slight to either, but these are two programs in

767
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<v Speaker 2>a way that are kind of fighting for the same

768
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 2>position right in the SEC hierarchy. Right, So both programs

769
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<v Speaker 2>come in thinking that they should beat the other one

770
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<v Speaker 2>every year, and in many ways, whichever team wins this

771
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 2>game does set itself up for some ability to have

772
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<v Speaker 2>a really good season, and the loser of the game

773
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 2>walks away going that's one we should have had, That's

774
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 2>one we could have had and could have set up

775
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a season. So yeah, that is a really big game

776
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>as far as you know, just the projection of how

777
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<v Speaker 2>you're going to look for.

778
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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the year for so long as you know.

779
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>This was a divisional game, so vital if you want

780
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<v Speaker 1>to move up in the SEC East, which Kentucky did

781
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 1>at times at the expense of SC and vice versa.

782
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 1>But now they've done away with the divisions. I was

783
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>staunchly opposed to that, and I know everybody wanted to

784
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>see more of a balance schedule, but it bugs me

785
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 1>that the program I cover now is an even longer

786
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 1>shot to get to Atlanta for the SEC Championship game,

787
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 1>better chance of getting to the playoffs. But I just

788
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<v Speaker 1>so enjoyed covering that event for SEC Radio for the

789
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<v Speaker 1>longest time, and it's so hard to do, and I

790
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 1>just wonder if Kentucky's ever going to get that. But

791
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<v Speaker 1>it's now I think Lee k a bigger game and

792
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that if you want to get to the playoff, much

793
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<v Speaker 1>less Atlanta, you cannot lose this game, you know what.

794
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, right, Yeah, I mean you would almost have

795
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 2>to run the table and pull up some big upsets

796
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.079
<v Speaker 2>like over Georgia. Yeah, and you know Texas and some

797
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 2>of those. So you're right, and it's hard to see

798
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky or it's not just Kentucky, it's most schools in

799
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<v Speaker 2>the SEC that aren't named Georgia and Alabama and possibly

800
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<v Speaker 2>a Tennessee or some to get to the SEC championship game.

801
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's that now becomes a lot tougher than

802
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 2>making the playoff, right, So I guess it's it's a

803
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<v Speaker 2>little bit of give and take. You now, with the

804
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<v Speaker 2>twelve team probably soon to be sixteen team playoff, have

805
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<v Speaker 2>a legit shot to play for the postseason. And I

806
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<v Speaker 2>do like that part about it, Like you don't lose

807
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<v Speaker 2>one game and suddenly every guy on the roster doesn't

808
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<v Speaker 2>think that there's much to play for. Right, But you're right,

809
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you know not a conference championship in a league like

810
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 2>the SEC becomes a lot more elusive when you're taking

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<v Speaker 2>literally the top two teams.

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<v Speaker 9>You're right.

813
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Talking to Lee K. Howard of WKYT, he covers

814
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<v Speaker 1>UK football among many other things. Well, you brought up

815
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<v Speaker 1>the run game. We know that Southern miss is a

816
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>have not at least it looks like that right now.

817
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.679
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina we're gonna find out. We're all going to

818
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>find out together. But mediocre effort against Old Dominion. Well

819
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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say effort. I don't know what their effort

820
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, but result was mediocre. But they did get

821
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<v Speaker 1>a win against Old Dominion. But they've got a power

822
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<v Speaker 1>run game, don't they. This is going to be interesting

823
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<v Speaker 1>to see SE's offense versus that Kentucky d line.

824
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

825
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I think so too, you know, And I asked Brad

826
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<v Speaker 2>White yesterday about the running game for USC, just because

827
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<v Speaker 2>they were very run heavy against Old Dominion and they,

828
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Rocket Sanders is transferred in there. Sellers the

829
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<v Speaker 2>quarterback can run the ball, and traditionally we've seen Kentucky

830
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<v Speaker 2>and most teams really in the country struggle when when

831
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<v Speaker 2>you've got a running quarterback of quarterbacks that can get

832
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<v Speaker 2>out of the pocket and pick up yards, and so,

833
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I thought it was interesting. Brad White at

834
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>least said he expects a balanced attack. But you know,

835
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<v Speaker 2>I do think that that is something to watch, how

836
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<v Speaker 2>effective South Carolina can be on offense running the ball,

837
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<v Speaker 2>because we know both teams are good on defense, right.

838
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the strength of both of these teams,

839
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<v Speaker 2>especially the front seven. And so you know, what can

840
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's defense do to limit South Carolina? Because if South

841
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<v Speaker 2>Carolina proves to not be a very good offensive team,

842
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 2>then I think Kentucky walks away with a you know,

843
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 2>ten plus point win, easy if they if they come

844
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 2>out and play like they did against the Old Dominion,

845
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I think Kentucky walks off with an easy win. If

846
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that that run game though or Sellers gives Kentucky's defense

847
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 2>any trouble, then I think we're in for a tight game.

848
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got a dual threat quarterback. And we have

849
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 1>seen through the years, and you've worked this market for

850
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 1>quite a while, you've seen dual threat qbs come in

851
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and really be fuddle the Wildcats, haven't you.

852
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they and they have now. Also, You've got

853
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 2>to keep in mind that Kentucky's defense from you know,

854
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 2>front to back is as solid as it's been for

855
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>a while. You know, they may not have a Josh

856
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Allen or you know, the the elite NFL prospect on

857
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>that roster. I mean, they've obviously have Deon, but they

858
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>are so balanced defensively from the line, the linebackers to

859
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the defensive backs. I think that a running quarterback in

860
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 2>theory wouldn't give these guys as much trouble. But like

861
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I said, it's not just Kentucky any and Brad White

862
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>said this yesterday. Any team that can run their quarterback,

863
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 2>they just create another gap, right, so they they make

864
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 2>it a lot tougher for a defense. And you know,

865
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>now instead of the defensive lineman filling one gap, he's

866
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 2>looking to fill a gap and a half in order

867
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to limit the ability for the quarterback to run. So

868
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>it just brings in a whole other element. And we

869
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 2>were kind of seeing the same thing on Kentucky's offense, right.

870
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So Bush Hampden has proven, at least in one game

871
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>or three quarters of the game, that he's not afraid

872
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 2>to let his quarterback run. And like I said, if

873
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.559
<v Speaker 2>we would have got to see Gavin Wimsatt in there,

874
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's certainly part of the game plan when

875
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Gavin's in there, to let him run. You know, we

876
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 2>saw the last couple of years when Will Levis. We

877
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 2>knew he could run the ball, but his second year

878
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 2>he was very limited. So I think that having the

879
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>ability to have a quarterback move the pocket and pick

880
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>up some yards if he needs to is a huge deal.

881
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Lee K. Howard, my guest from WKYT, will come back

882
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>with more football chatter in just a minute here on

883
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue and Siders six thirty WLAP Welcome back.

884
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Lee K. Howard of WKYT reporter anchors.

885
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Worked in election for quite some time from New Mexico.

886
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>But what the college in Texas? And you and I

887
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>have talked about football in the state of Texas. Of

888
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>course Texas now in the Southeastern Conference. That's going to

889
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>take some getting used to. But I bring up the Longhorns,

890
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lee K, because we were talking about SEC football in

891
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>the previous segment and now we need and we would

892
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>have done this anyway. It's a great game. Need to

893
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on the first big game scheduled on Saturday,

894
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's the Longhorns at Michigan and Texas. Lee K

895
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>is a seven and a half point favorite right now.

896
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean Michigan, the defending national champ, which admittedly lost

897
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot to the NFL, specifically a quarterback, but a

898
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 1>touchdown more than a touchdown underdog at the Big House.

899
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of that.

900
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say going into the Big House

901
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>as a favorite on the road is quite impressive. But

902
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that speaks just as much to what Michigan

903
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>lost as much as what Texas is bringing in. I mean,

904
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Texas is a really good team. Obviously, they wouldn't be

905
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.960
<v Speaker 2>ranked in the top ten, you know, as a fluke

906
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.960
<v Speaker 2>if they weren't. They've got a lot of talent. But

907
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 2>when you've got Michigan losing not only a bunch of players,

908
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>they lest their coach also, right, So it's a different

909
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a different team. So it's almost hard to look

910
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 2>at them as the defending national champion at least coming

911
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>onto the field. But you know, I will say it

912
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 2>was weird. You know, I had to catch a little

913
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 2>bit of the Texas and a little bit of the

914
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma game, and it's weird seeing the SEC logos and

915
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, the promos for the SEC running before the

916
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Texas game, because like you said, I grew up, you know,

917
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>watching Texas in the Big twelve right in Oklahoma, and

918
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>so it's going to take them getting used to. But

919
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I think overall, when you had a program or two

920
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 2>programs really like those two programs to the SEC. It

921
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 2>just makes it that much better. And really, the SEC

922
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 2>looked pretty good over the first weekend. There's some really

923
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.039
<v Speaker 2>log sided wins, and it's really hard to tell after

924
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the first week when hardly anybody plays it. I mean,

925
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 2>there were a couple of really good games, but most guys,

926
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 2>most teams rather are just playing, you know, to get

927
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>their their feet underneath them, right, So I thought it

928
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>was a good first week for most of the SEC.

929
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well Texas destroyed Colorado State, Michigan beat Fresno

930
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 1>State thirty to ten. But you know, obviously didn't look

931
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>like a steamroller. But as you said, it's it's basically

932
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a new team. But you know, Texas has the Marquee

933
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 1>players at quarterback and not just Quinn were viewers but

934
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Archie Manning as Jenny as well, so that you know

935
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the nation will keep an eye on that. But boy,

936
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I had something off the wire yesterday about how except

937
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for the Longhorns, the state of Texas had a miserable

938
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 1>day in college football this past week at A and M,

939
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>losing the one double A teams losing the NAI teams.

940
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>H it was really bizarre. But yeah, just talking about

941
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the Longhorns in the SEC is we're another great game

942
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas will find out more about the Hogs not on

943
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's roster or schedule rather, but playing at Oklahoma State.

944
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be good.

945
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 2>That is gonna be good. Yeah, Like I said, there's

946
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good matchups. I guess I don't know

947
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 2>if I'm if I'm weird in this way. I'm more

948
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 2>interested to see, like, what what is Florida do? What

949
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 2>is what does Florida come out? And can they can

950
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 2>they have Hilly Napier's job? Right? I I keep wondering

951
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 2>when is that train going to come off the tracks completely?

952
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>But there are some good matchups coming up this week.

953
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 1>And I just mentioned the fact that, uh, Florida's backup

954
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>QB's got to start because a concussion protocol.

955
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and who knows, I mean, maybe they're just looking

956
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 2>for a spark at this point. You've seen teams do

957
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 2>that before, where they're gonna set a guy without saying

958
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they're sitting him. And I don't know the Like I said,

959
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the train's about to come off the track there at Florida,

960
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't be surprised if by the time Kentucky

961
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 2>placed Florida in a couple of weeks. If they have

962
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a change, you know, depending on depending on what they're

963
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing this next couple of weeks. But yeah,

964
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be interesting to see.

965
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you always wonder about mid season changes or

966
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 1>late season changes. But it's it's a message to recruits,

967
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Hey, we know we got a problem. We're

968
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.000
<v Speaker 1>fixing it. It'll be all, it'll be great, it'll be

969
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>fine by the time you get here. But the recruits

970
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is say, well, who the hell am I planned for?

971
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, who's going to my head coach going to

972
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 1>be And they can't answer that question. A few minutes

973
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 1>left with Lee K. Howard of w K Watt, you

974
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 1>got to throw in as we speak, we don't yet

975
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 1>know about Jasper Johnson. We believe it's going to be Kentucky,

976
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>but we're recording this earlier in the day. But just

977
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 1>your take on how things have gone for Mark Pope

978
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and the expectations of the Big Blue Nation for a

979
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky team that it has not shown up leek and many,

980
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.159
<v Speaker 1>if any early preseason top twenty five that might be

981
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 1>a blessing.

982
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 2>You know it really may be, because I think that

983
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of a curse to the Caliperi regime

984
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years when they would come in

985
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 2>ranked top ten, I think the lowest they were ranked

986
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 2>with top six, number sixteen once and they thought that

987
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>was a slight yeah, and then underperformed at the end

988
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 2>of the year. So, you know, I think a lot

989
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of people national people that do these sort of you know,

990
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 2>projections and things like that, might be sleeping on Kentucky,

991
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>but I think some of them are more just cautiously going, Okay,

992
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>we know that that roster that Mark Pope has put

993
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 2>together has a lot of talent, It's got a lot

994
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of experience. I think Mark's story of

995
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.159
<v Speaker 2>the Harold Leader did a story a couple of months

996
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so ago about how many starts all of these players

997
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 2>have together. It's the most starts of any team in

998
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's history, which is kind of crazy to think of

999
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 2>how old this team is. So we know there's talent,

1000
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.960
<v Speaker 2>but we've yet to see any of them really play

1001
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.360
<v Speaker 2>together against competition. So I think that's probably some of

1002
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the reason why you're not getting some of the projections

1003
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.000
<v Speaker 2>in the top twenty five that maybe that they will

1004
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 2>certainly get there and once they get on the court,

1005
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, adding a guy like Jasper Johnson, if that

1006
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I believe that that's the belief that most

1007
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.639
<v Speaker 2>of the recruiting experts that follow this very closely think

1008
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that Jasper will be Pope's second commit for the twenty

1009
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty five class, so obviously won't make an impact this

1010
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 2>coming season. But you know, if you had Jasper along

1011
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>with Malachi Marino from Great Crossing, you suddenly have two,

1012
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, top twenty guys in that twenty five class,

1013
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>both of them who happened to be from right here

1014
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 2>in central Kentucky. So that would be a huge start

1015
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 2>on the next year's class. But I really think that

1016
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 2>once this year's team gets on the court and finds

1017
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 2>their chemistry, I think they're going to exceed the expectations

1018
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 2>rather than underachieved. I think they overachieved and that could

1019
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>be a good thing for Kentucky ball.

1020
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I fully agree. And the other thing is that I've

1021
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of pep I'm sure you have too.

1022
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people ask me. Most recently, one of

1023
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 1>our vets asked me, what do you think this team's

1024
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.079
<v Speaker 1>going to do. And I think that people, the posters,

1025
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe not the Big New Nation, might be sleeping on

1026
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope as a tactician and a technician when it

1027
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to coaching basketball. He did postseason, notwithstanding, he did

1028
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a really good job in his first two stops as

1029
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.559
<v Speaker 1>a head coach just calling x's and o's, you know

1030
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and obviously didn't have the talent level

1031
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:46.559
<v Speaker 1>he's got now.

1032
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 2>And I think that was one of the biggest gripes

1033
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>for the last couple of years of the Calipari era,

1034
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 2>was the x's and o's right, right, And I think

1035
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 2>exactly right that Hope has the coaching acumen to really

1036
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 2>put his players in a position to be successful both

1037
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.960
<v Speaker 2>offensively and defensively. And so I've really never questioned that,

1038
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why people would, because he has

1039
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.920
<v Speaker 2>shown that he can take a roster that maybe not

1040
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 2>as good as the one that he's put together here

1041
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky and be successful with them, not in the postseason,

1042
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 2>but during the year. So I don't question that whatsoever

1043
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 2>that these guys are going to be in a position

1044
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.360
<v Speaker 2>to win every game. And so I think that will

1045
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 2>be a nice change for for Kentucky fans to watch.

1046
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.599
<v Speaker 2>They weren't. They're not going to feel like they're getting

1047
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 2>out coached against the lower level team. An Oakland team

1048
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 2>who comes in and figures out a way to find

1049
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 2>some space in the Kentucky defense in Kentucky has no answer, right.

1050
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.599
<v Speaker 2>So I think that you combine Pope and his staff

1051
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and their coaching ability with the rock that he's put together,

1052
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and you know, maybe I'm foolish to think that they're

1053
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.360
<v Speaker 2>a team that makes it easy run to the Elite eight,

1054
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>but I think that they have the ability to do that.

1055
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be interesting if Kentucky made a Cinderella type run.

1056
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Although by tournament time, if Kentucky's good enough to make

1057
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a run, they're not going to be you know, bury

1058
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it in a poll. They're going to be top ten.

1059
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna be fun. Lee K. Howard will be

1060
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>there to cover for WKYT. Thank you, brother, We'll see

1061
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 1>you at the ballgame.

1062
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good. Thank you.

1063
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Dick down in Columbia, Reggie Anderson waiting to talk to us.

1064
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.039
<v Speaker 1>He's covered the game Cocks for about thirty years. That's

1065
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 1>next in the Big Blue Insider here on six thirty

1066
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 1>w Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider, joining us

1067
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 1>now as a guy I've known for a long time

1068
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 1>on the SEC beat, Reggie Anderson's sports director wlt XTV

1069
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:50.239
<v Speaker 1>down in Colombia and Reggie once again Kentucky South Carolina.

1070
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>First of all, good talking to you again.

1071
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 9>I'll get to hear from you, Jick.

1072
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to one of my colleagues's former colleagues

1073
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>from a WKYT the fact that I really like that

1074
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky South Carolina football has become a true rivalry because

1075
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.559
<v Speaker 1>this game means so much to both teams every year.

1076
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Is not traditional, not geographical, but it means so much

1077
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to looking ahead the postseason and things

1078
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1079
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 9>That's really kind of the way it's been, especially with

1080
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 9>South Cona' schedule and being so screwy this year, No Georgia,

1081
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 9>no Tennessee.

1082
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was.

1083
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 9>I was thinking about this a little while ago. I

1084
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:31.800
<v Speaker 9>think of all the SEC teams on the schedule, Old

1085
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 9>Miss will be, you know, on the schedule, and obviously

1086
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 9>the lean given factor, and there's a former Gamecock receiver

1087
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 9>Juice Wells and transferred Old Miss that'll have some heat.

1088
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.559
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I think Kentucky and South John of this year,

1089
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.000
<v Speaker 9>if you look at the SEC schedule, that's the Gamecop's

1090
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:49.239
<v Speaker 9>biggest rival, and that may be the case going forward

1091
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 9>because the programs are so have have for the most part,

1092
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 9>not every year, but for the most part, have been

1093
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 9>close in terms of where they are in the SEC

1094
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 9>pecking order.

1095
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell me a little bit of about that opener with

1096
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Old Dominion, where we're fans down there upset about it,

1097
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.280
<v Speaker 1>confused about it, because I think we all kind of

1098
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:08.199
<v Speaker 1>expected more.

1099
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 9>I think the reaction for most fans is, don't let

1100
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:18.639
<v Speaker 9>that happen again. And you would take you know, Leonoris Sellers,

1101
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.119
<v Speaker 9>the freshman quarterback making his first true start, and really

1102
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 9>he and even though they're on different planes with him

1103
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 9>and Brock Vandergriff, you know this week it will be

1104
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 9>the first time they get their first SEC start in

1105
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 9>a I mean, I'm sure Brock's played its best games before,

1106
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 9>but they'll both be making I would think I would

1107
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 9>I haven't looked up at Brock's career statfs, but I

1108
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 9>would think this game they would be making their first

1109
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 9>career start in an SEC game. That'll be different for

1110
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.519
<v Speaker 9>both guys. And even though you know Leonori's was a

1111
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 9>four star. People are very high on him. I think

1112
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.480
<v Speaker 9>he's got got great upside. Rock of course, uh, coming

1113
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 9>in very heralded in Georgia looking for a you know,

1114
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 9>a new scenery and and and better better chance at Kentucky.

1115
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.039
<v Speaker 9>So that'll be very interesting to see which quarterback is

1116
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.280
<v Speaker 9>able to will their team to to that first SEC win.

1117
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 9>And again, I know it's early, but again want to

1118
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 9>know in the SEC a young team for South Carolina

1119
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.840
<v Speaker 9>freshman played very well the other night, Govii Stewart at

1120
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 9>the five star defensive end. He came out and really

1121
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 9>impressed people. So I think if you believe the old

1122
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.119
<v Speaker 9>adage that you make great progress from week win a

1123
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.079
<v Speaker 9>week two, especially true for a freshman, especially a freshman

1124
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.559
<v Speaker 9>quarterback who admitted that he was a little a little

1125
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 9>wiar the other night, a little a little bit more

1126
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:32.960
<v Speaker 9>seat up. So he's going to try to try to

1127
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:33.760
<v Speaker 9>slow things down.

1128
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>A little bit. Well, I know he's dangerous, and I

1129
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 1>know the Kentucky players have all talked about his arm strength,

1130
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>so apparently that was on display against Odu, right it was.

1131
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 9>And then of course, I mean, of course we always

1132
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 9>know he knows he can run and he's a big

1133
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 9>boy and he gets he gets rolling along and he's

1134
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 9>tough to stop. But really, over the summer, he worked

1135
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:57.719
<v Speaker 9>with a private quarterback coach who I've known for years,

1136
01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 9>of a former local quarterback at one of the divisions

1137
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 9>colleges in here who's running a very successful quarterback academy,

1138
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:07.079
<v Speaker 9>if you will, private instruction, and his passing is really

1139
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:11.199
<v Speaker 9>he is so farther far along this year because all

1140
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 9>the intensive work he's done in the offseason on top

1141
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 9>of the normal workouts that the players go through. So

1142
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 9>he's Leonoris has really gone the extra mile to make

1143
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 9>sure he's ready to leave this team, not just with

1144
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:24.639
<v Speaker 9>his legs, but obviously with his arm.

1145
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about his recruiting. You mentioned how highly regarded

1146
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 1>he was. I got to think they rejoiced in Columbia

1147
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 1>when they got him. There. May I'm sure some nil

1148
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:38.159
<v Speaker 1>funding involved as well, but that's the case everywhere. But

1149
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy could be a program turner right well.

1150
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 9>Back in December of his senior year, after he leaves

1151
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 9>his high school teams of a state championship, he was

1152
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 9>playing in the anal Shrine Bowl North Carolina versus South

1153
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.880
<v Speaker 9>Cond's best players and he was committed to Syracuse at

1154
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 9>the time, but.

1155
01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was.

1156
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 9>He was actually hitded up there. He was hit up,

1157
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 9>but he kind of you know, the momentum started building

1158
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 9>for South Carolina and then it got to the point

1159
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 9>where the week of that All Star Game, it was like, well,

1160
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:13.199
<v Speaker 9>right now both teams are even. Okay, if both teams

1161
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 9>were even and the hometown team is the one who's

1162
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.159
<v Speaker 9>made up the most ground. You know, we had had

1163
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 9>a free good feeling that he was going to commit

1164
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 9>and eventually signed with South Carolina and that was the case.

1165
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 9>So but everybody I've talked to says, this guy has

1166
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 9>got a chance to be one of the again everybody,

1167
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 9>and I hate using this term, I hate I really do,

1168
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:34.239
<v Speaker 9>but everybody says he has the chance to be one

1169
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.920
<v Speaker 9>of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of Game Cocked football.

1170
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.039
<v Speaker 9>I've heard that from several people, and I'm being the

1171
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:40.559
<v Speaker 9>cynic that I am. I said, well, he's gonna have

1172
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 9>to prove it. But that's that's the uh, that's the ceiling.

1173
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.440
<v Speaker 1>If you will, Who is the best quarterback in game

1174
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Cocks history?

1175
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 9>Well, a couple of guys, but I would think you

1176
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.199
<v Speaker 9>got to go with Connor Shaw, who went undefeated at

1177
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 9>home at Williams Brice Stadium. And yes, so I would

1178
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 9>think you got to had to go with Connor. But

1179
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 9>then again, you know, even though the sample size isn't

1180
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:07.280
<v Speaker 9>a very big, Spencer Ratler back in twenty twenty two

1181
01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 9>led the Gamecocks to the big win over Tennessee where

1182
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 9>they just routed the volunteers. Yeah, I think Tennessee came

1183
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.599
<v Speaker 9>in right fifth in the country, and then the following

1184
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.199
<v Speaker 9>the you know, that led to the win over Clemson,

1185
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 9>which was big. So in terms of just I would

1186
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 9>think people would look at Connor and Spencer Ratlers as

1187
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.199
<v Speaker 9>the two best quarterbacks in Gainecock history.

1188
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:31.639
<v Speaker 1>So it's more about, obviously results than stats and things

1189
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like that because Kentucky it's easy was couch and all

1190
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:39.639
<v Speaker 1>those stats. But yeah, I mean, there's a hill to climb,

1191
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 1>but Sellers apparently has the ability to do that, and

1192
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>behind him he can hand it off to Raheem Sanders.

1193
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 1>That's another guy who got a lot of attention and

1194
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 1>the discussion with Kentucky's defenders, a power running back who

1195
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:54.760
<v Speaker 1>had a pretty good game, didn't.

1196
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:57.480
<v Speaker 9>He It wasn't bad. I mean, again, the offense was

1197
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 9>kind of I think people were obviously affecting more and

1198
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:03.480
<v Speaker 9>they should have. But yeah, Rocket's the guy who's given

1199
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 9>that that running game some some power, and of course

1200
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 9>he had that that great so I think it was

1201
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 9>two years ago. He had a great season at Arkansas,

1202
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 9>battles of injuries and really the game stocks were really

1203
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.320
<v Speaker 9>lucky that I can't land him out of the out

1204
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.920
<v Speaker 9>of the transfer portal. So if if sellers in the

1205
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 9>passing games can get going, that was certainly loosen things

1206
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.000
<v Speaker 9>up for that running game and vice versa.

1207
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you know about Kentucky? What are you hearing?

1208
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.239
<v Speaker 9>Well, I was looking at I was neat. It was

1209
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 9>neat to see that, uh our old fowler, Eric Willford

1210
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 9>back as the offensive line take and he is an

1211
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 9>out He really is an outstanding like uh O line

1212
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.239
<v Speaker 9>coach and a great guy too. So uh he'll, uh he'll, he'll.

1213
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:42.480
<v Speaker 9>I'm sure he'll have his guys ready for uh for

1214
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.800
<v Speaker 9>that front six or that game talk defense, which really

1215
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 9>is the uh is the strength of of of that

1216
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:49.800
<v Speaker 9>defense of that front six. He's got a lot of bodies.

1217
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 9>They've had more depth in the defensive line than I

1218
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.239
<v Speaker 9>think in Beamer's four years, so that'll be interesting. We've

1219
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 9>got some rangy guys in the secondary. But I'm looking

1220
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 9>forward to seeing how how the Kentucky office line battles

1221
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:03.320
<v Speaker 9>the D line of South Carolina.

1222
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's see how.

1223
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 9>Wolford he still has the same same nasty players he's

1224
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:09.639
<v Speaker 9>always had, whether he was at South Carolina. I know

1225
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 9>he was an Alabama, but his player is mirror his personality.

1226
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 9>And uh, I'm kind of looking forward to that. I mean,

1227
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 9>I know we're we're all local guys. We'd like to

1228
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 9>hear our local teams do well. But you know you

1229
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 9>can certainly from afar admired and respect from like you

1230
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 9>who he was only here for a year. Yeah, but

1231
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 9>I was really impressed with with Wolford's time here at

1232
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 9>South Carolina. And I'm always it's always good to when

1233
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.440
<v Speaker 9>you when you look down at the schedule and you

1234
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.199
<v Speaker 9>see some friendly, familiar names on the on the opposing roster.

1235
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, he was only here for a year before he

1236
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:43.599
<v Speaker 1>left abruptly ticking off Mark Stoops and everybody in the

1237
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Big Moon Nation and went to Alabama. Uh. But then

1238
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of course when Saban made his decision, uh, Stoops kind

1239
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 1>of swallowed his pride and knew that this guy is

1240
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.199
<v Speaker 1>an excellent coach and hired him back. So we'll see

1241
01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 1>how that works. And by the way, speaking of that

1242
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:02.599
<v Speaker 1>front for South Carolina, we've all heard about it up here.

1243
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have their hands full with a quarterback who

1244
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 1>can run the football, Brock Vandergriff. You mentioned him getting

1245
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:13.519
<v Speaker 1>his first SEC start. He ran the ball Reggie Moore

1246
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 1>against Southern Miss, And really we thought we knew Bush Hampdon,

1247
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the new OC likes the quarterback run game, but man

1248
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Vandergriff kind of channeling his inner Will Levis by not

1249
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 1>just running for first down but putting his head down

1250
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.599
<v Speaker 1>and running behind his shoulder pad, which is risky.

1251
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 9>Well, and again, you wouldn't you, you know, you wouldn't

1252
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 9>think that you knew he was gonna run a little bit.

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01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 9>But I think people may be a little bit surprised

1254
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 9>at how much he did run the ball.

1255
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And again that's a.

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01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:44.039
<v Speaker 9>That's another speaker of this day and age, where you know,

1257
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:45.880
<v Speaker 9>if a quarterback he gets seven eight yards on a

1258
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.760
<v Speaker 9>run and all of a sudden you looking at the

1259
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:49.960
<v Speaker 9>second and or third and short, and that really just

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01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:52.199
<v Speaker 9>kind of kind of free freeze things up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, he was listed as a recruit as a

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01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.480
<v Speaker 1>dual threat quarterback, but in his introductory news conference he

1263
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.719
<v Speaker 1>said he did didn't want to be known as a

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01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.599
<v Speaker 1>running quarterback, and he certainly threw some great balls. So

1265
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be fun. Reggie Anderson is my guest.

1266
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 1>He is the longtime sports director at w lt XTV

1267
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.440
<v Speaker 1>down at Columbia. We'll talk more about the game Cocks

1268
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break here on sixth

1269
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 1>we come back. We're talking with Reggie Anderson. He is

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01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 1>a sports director w lt XTV down in Columbia. You're

1271
01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.920
<v Speaker 1>in your fourth decade now, just getting say you you

1272
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:27.520
<v Speaker 1>were You've been there since ninety three, is that right?

1273
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 9>I started in ninety three. I was actually in grad

1274
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:35.279
<v Speaker 9>school at South Carolina, Wow, and got my master's in

1275
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:37.199
<v Speaker 9>mass Muka. I am smarter than I look.

1276
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:38.239
<v Speaker 8>And then.

1277
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.840
<v Speaker 9>Then this job came open, and it was it was

1278
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 9>basically a videographer, yeah, and a part time achor. And

1279
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 9>then twenty ten, I mean they I kind of hangu

1280
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 9>I'm hanging around and all of a sudden kind of

1281
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:54.840
<v Speaker 9>worked out to where I was naming full time sports

1282
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.479
<v Speaker 9>director after being the weekender for so long and been

1283
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.760
<v Speaker 9>there ever since. In that so, but I still getting out.

1284
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.960
<v Speaker 9>I still enjoy getting out and in filming games, shooting

1285
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 9>games high school. And I love NASCAR, go to the Masters,

1286
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 9>go to the Masters every year. So that's one of

1287
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 9>the fun aspects of the job. Able to get out

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01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.319
<v Speaker 9>from behind the desk and go cover big time sporting events.

1289
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 9>And I notice a sacrilege around here, but give me

1290
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 9>NASCAR and the Masters over college football. Believe it or not. Wow,

1291
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.199
<v Speaker 9>But those are my Those are my two favorite sports

1292
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.560
<v Speaker 9>to cover because I grew up in Darlington, so I

1293
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:31.600
<v Speaker 9>grew up a NASCAR fan, but state currently around around

1294
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 9>these parts. When I'm when I'm leading when I have

1295
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 9>a show on Saturday Night. As hard as it is

1296
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.279
<v Speaker 9>for me not to lead with Nascar, I do lead

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01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:39.159
<v Speaker 9>with college football.

1298
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:40.159
<v Speaker 2>So I do. I do.

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01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.239
<v Speaker 9>I do, put my own personal biases aside and and

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01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:44.960
<v Speaker 9>lead with with college football.

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01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you can't go wrong down there with coverage

1302
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 1>in NASCAR, and I've I've covered NASCAR events, Uh, but

1303
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I have never been able to scratch that itch when

1304
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Masters.

1305
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But ky t, we could never get media credential, as

1307
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, so hard or if you haven't been doing

1308
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 1>it for a long time, and uh so, I don't

1309
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:05.600
<v Speaker 1>know if I'll ever get to do that. So I

1310
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 1>tip my cap there. But we are talking about Kentucky

1311
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina football, and the Wildcats are I think a

1312
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ten point favorite. I don't see. I think it's gonna

1313
01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:15.479
<v Speaker 1>be a close one, don't you.

1314
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.359
<v Speaker 9>I'm thinking not only I think it's probably gonna be close,

1315
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.359
<v Speaker 9>but I'm looking at kind of like a I don't know,

1316
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 9>twenty four to twenty twenty seven, twenty that's kind of

1317
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 9>how it feels. I don't think it's'll be a and

1318
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 9>I could be totally wrong, but I feel like it's

1319
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 9>not gonna be one of those high scoring affairs were new.

1320
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.960
<v Speaker 9>In fact, I I would expect both defenses to have

1321
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.119
<v Speaker 9>their way. It's just a matter of who can maybe

1322
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 9>get that last scoring drive kind of get some separation.

1323
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:42.960
<v Speaker 9>But I don't think it's gonna be a shootout them again.

1324
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 9>I think it's that that that twenty point range, maybe

1325
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:47.199
<v Speaker 9>the first one of twenty seven might win.

1326
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I think South Carolina football is fascinating because

1327
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 1>for years I've always believed that it's a sleeping giant. There.

1328
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 1>There's fan interest. It's a great part of the country

1329
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:02.439
<v Speaker 1>for talent. Kentucky has pulled some some really talented kids

1330
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:05.119
<v Speaker 1>out of that state, especially when Joker Phillips was the

1331
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:09.000
<v Speaker 1>recruiting coordinator. And of course Sellers is local, as you said,

1332
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:13.640
<v Speaker 1>from Florence, South Carolina. Uh, you've had some great coaches

1333
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 1>down there. One coach tragically died way too young. But

1334
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Holtz was down there. He was didn't he win like

1335
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:23.720
<v Speaker 1>three straight seasons eleven wins or something like that.

1336
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 2>That was Spurrier.

1337
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.079
<v Speaker 9>He did that, Okay, that lou His first year he

1338
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:32.079
<v Speaker 9>went four oh yeah, I know, oh for eleven and

1339
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 9>then the next years who went to head back to

1340
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 9>back out back Bowl champions.

1341
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Or out back Bowl victories.

1342
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, won eight games. Perhaps when Spurrier took over, he

1343
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:42.800
<v Speaker 9>kind of took him a couple of years to really

1344
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 9>get it going right. But yeah, when you had guys

1345
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.239
<v Speaker 9>like Jadeveon Clowney and Connor Shaw as part of that

1346
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.720
<v Speaker 9>as well. Yeah, uh he had he had three straight

1347
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:55.720
<v Speaker 9>uh double digit seasons of wins and one year they

1348
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 9>finished fourth in the final AP Top twenty five. So

1349
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:03.159
<v Speaker 9>that's been the that's been the gold standard for Gamecock

1350
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:05.359
<v Speaker 9>football and of course, Burrier left is the all time

1351
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.319
<v Speaker 9>winning his coach there, as he did at Florida, so

1352
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:11.840
<v Speaker 9>he certainly made his mark. He didn't win, he didn't

1353
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.680
<v Speaker 9>win an SEC championship, but he did have one FEC

1354
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.880
<v Speaker 9>Eastern Division title, and that's been their only their only,

1355
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:20.560
<v Speaker 9>their only EA Eastern Division titles so far.

1356
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>When I worked the SEC championship game for SEC Radio,

1357
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I produced the radio network for fifteen straight years in

1358
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, was there and the Gamecock fans took over

1359
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.399
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta and had a wonderful time. I remember that.

1360
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:35.319
<v Speaker 1>And here's the other thing I remember Reggie about that

1361
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:39.800
<v Speaker 1>over team with Lou Holtz. People don't realize that team

1362
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:43.800
<v Speaker 1>was ranked overall fifteenth in the country in defense. It

1363
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't score, You remember that.

1364
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I do.

1365
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.039
<v Speaker 9>In fact, that one of the one of the quarterbacks

1366
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.840
<v Speaker 9>I knew very well was about I mean, was he

1367
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.039
<v Speaker 9>had no business playing D one football. But that's all

1368
01:12:56.079 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 9>they had. I mean, seriously, I mean it was just

1369
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:03.439
<v Speaker 9>I mean they yeah, they couldn't do anything offensively, he inherited,

1370
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:08.279
<v Speaker 9>Oh my gosh. Yeah, but they only won one They

1371
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:09.880
<v Speaker 9>only won one game the year before.

1372
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, that's why that's why Holts was there. Uh.

1373
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.119
<v Speaker 1>So now they've got a coach who's colorful, he's got

1374
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a great pedigree, he's beaten Kentucky a couple of times.

1375
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:20.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of Beemer?

1376
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:25.520
<v Speaker 9>He's great with us and he's he's a former assistant

1377
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:29.039
<v Speaker 9>under Spurrier, so he gets the culture. Uh and this

1378
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 9>and for him, this is his his destination job. He

1379
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 9>has no interest in uh in going anywhere else. Although

1380
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:39.960
<v Speaker 9>it's it's a situation now where he didn't didn't go

1381
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.640
<v Speaker 9>to a bowl game last year, tough scheduled this year.

1382
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 9>If he doesn't go, if they have another situation where

1383
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.880
<v Speaker 9>they're not playing in December, there's gonna be some grumbling

1384
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 9>and and then you know, ultimately it comes down obviously

1385
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 9>know that the coaches get paid for for that, for

1386
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 9>that win loss record. That's how they're they're they're they're judge.

1387
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.239
<v Speaker 9>So but he's got a good plan. He's a relentless recruiter.

1388
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:05.720
<v Speaker 9>I mean, he loves recruiting and he's he's somebody who

1389
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:10.479
<v Speaker 9>from a from a fan standpoint, very engaging with the fans. So, uh,

1390
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:13.960
<v Speaker 9>he's got everything in place. The facilities have never been

1391
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:17.359
<v Speaker 9>have been better they've really invested this over the few years,

1392
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 9>which you know, in this day and age, you know,

1393
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:22.800
<v Speaker 9>in this arms race of facilities, if you don't have

1394
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:25.199
<v Speaker 9>that going for you, it's just tough. He knows how

1395
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:28.159
<v Speaker 9>to work the NIL thing. So, Uh, everything's in place,

1396
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.479
<v Speaker 9>you know, but again every week is is a challenge

1397
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:33.840
<v Speaker 9>and it's just it's brutal.

1398
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean it is.

1399
01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:35.920
<v Speaker 9>It is a brutal schedule.

1400
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:41.079
<v Speaker 1>What's the NIL situation like down there in Columbia, Well.

1401
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 9>It's a situation. Well again I mentioned Juice Wells going

1402
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 9>to old Myths. I think that was an an IL thing. Uh,

1403
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.199
<v Speaker 9>they've lost some players in the Nile. They're they're trying

1404
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 9>to get what they can done, but I don't I

1405
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 9>think there's other schools that have more resources in that

1406
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 9>regard right now. So I think they're they're kind of

1407
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.399
<v Speaker 9>playing from behind right now, but they're they're trying to

1408
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 9>work that that game, and they've they've done pretty well

1409
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.960
<v Speaker 9>in terms of landing some recruits and and uh and

1410
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:09.479
<v Speaker 9>and give them what they can from an NIL standpoint,

1411
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:12.479
<v Speaker 9>but it's a it's it's it's crazy the way we

1412
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 9>are now in twenty twenty four, where I mean ten

1413
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:17.720
<v Speaker 9>years ago, who'd have thought that, you know, we are

1414
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:19.880
<v Speaker 9>where we are, and I think we play We know

1415
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:23.279
<v Speaker 9>that football drives the engine of all universities for the

1416
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:26.840
<v Speaker 9>most part, and and I'm certainly all for for you know,

1417
01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 9>players getting a little sumpthing. But I think it's just

1418
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 9>it's almost like a lot while weft now. I mean,

1419
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:34.199
<v Speaker 9>it's just like there's no rules and it's just you know,

1420
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:36.600
<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, if you're out in Texas, you

1421
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 9>got those deep pockets in Texas or Arkansas. Yep, uh,

1422
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:42.279
<v Speaker 9>it's it's it's it's madness.

1423
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 2>It really is madness.

1424
01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no guardrails, and I know they're working on them,

1425
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 1>but who knows. A couple of minutes left with Reggie

1426
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Anderson down in Columbia, South Carolina real quickly, La Motte

1427
01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Paris made quite a splash at South Carolina coaching basketball.

1428
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Are people excite now about hoops down there? Because it

1429
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:05.279
<v Speaker 1>takes a lot to get people fired up, especially at

1430
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a place where football has been more more important than basketball.

1431
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 9>And only that, but you've got the women's basketball team,

1432
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.159
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, U team league well routinely, I mean the

1433
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.319
<v Speaker 9>Colonial Life Arenas in eighteen thousand, seed Arena and it's

1434
01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 9>not unusual for that for their games to draw thirteen

1435
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:25.319
<v Speaker 9>fourteen thousand people. So it really is the women's basketball

1436
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 9>program and the men is very similar to how it

1437
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.159
<v Speaker 9>was when Patsumad had Tennessee rolling in her heyday, where

1438
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 9>the women would totally outdraw the men's teams for the

1439
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.079
<v Speaker 9>most part. But in terms of in terms of coach Paris,

1440
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 9>this is a guy who's trying to, i think, build

1441
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.520
<v Speaker 9>a program reminiscent of the Wisconsin days when he was

1442
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 9>an assistant under under Bo Ryan's. You know, they played

1443
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.159
<v Speaker 9>physical defense and try to be very efficient on offense.

1444
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 9>And yeah, this year they've you know, I think last

1445
01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:54.880
<v Speaker 9>year kind of caught a lot of people off guard

1446
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.600
<v Speaker 9>and what they were able to do, but made the

1447
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:01.439
<v Speaker 9>NCAA tournament and it's second year, so now it's you know,

1448
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.880
<v Speaker 9>he's got most of the players back. They bought some people.

1449
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:05.840
<v Speaker 9>They Michi Johnson transfer.

1450
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:06.279
<v Speaker 2>To the Ohio State.

1451
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:09.000
<v Speaker 9>But they've they've got They had a five star guard

1452
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.640
<v Speaker 9>who originally signed with Texas, local kid Cam Scott. He

1453
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:16.640
<v Speaker 9>opted out of that uh letter of in Kent with

1454
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.079
<v Speaker 9>Texas and now he's a he's with a game talk

1455
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:21.399
<v Speaker 9>program now, so it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting,

1456
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 9>to say the least.

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie Anderson sports director for quite a while and has

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<v Speaker 1>been at wlt X down in Columbia for more than

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years. Great talking to you again. Hope to see

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<v Speaker 1>you soon.

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<v Speaker 9>All right, Jack, thanks for having me and we'll see

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<v Speaker 9>down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll do it for now, thanks to my guest,

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<v Speaker 1>to Reggie Anderson, to Lee K. Howard, and to Van Hiles.

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<v Speaker 1>And tomorrow night we'll have a one hour program. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we will give way to Kentucky volleyball right here on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP a Wildcatcher taking on Penn State. That

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<v Speaker 1>one's going to be streamed as well, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pass through so it's not a full broadcast, but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>still be able to see the match. We will have

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball on SEC plus a full broadcast on Sunday, yours

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<v Speaker 1>truly and Leah Edmund will have a call. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sports coming up this weekend. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football on Saturday afternoon. Thanks for joining us. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night from the garage in Lexingdon lunch lady thaughtus

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<v Speaker 1>at any grease, Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Greece Me Up Woman, Okay, Joky and
