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Speaker 1: Caroline Corey.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Thanks so much for having me, I should say

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welcome back. Yes, yeah, this is the third time, and

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there was once. It was a long time ago when

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we first talked, and I can't even remember what year.

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I want to say, like twenty fourteen or thirteen, something

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like that.

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Speaker 1: Way back. Yeah, I know, you do a long thing.

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You do a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Things, so I'm sure it's hard to remember everything. But

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the last time we talked to you, who had just

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completed the movie that was out there Tearing the Sky,

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which at first I thought it was Tearing the Sky.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: I feel a lot of people say that because either

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one could sound like would work. But so just to

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follow up on that, that was a great movie. By

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the way, I was jealous. You've got to interview William Shatner.

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I mean, amazing, man. I'm not so happy with some

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of the things he said about UFOs, you know, here

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and there, but for the most part, I really I

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am a big fan. But still, Kevin Kanouth, I remember

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you were still trying to resolve.

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Speaker 1: What that thing was, and just the question.

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Speaker 2: You know, the movie's done, it's long, you know, a

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few years back and all.

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Speaker 1: That has that ever been resolved what that was.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: It means that these scientists have done everything possible to

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debunk it because actually that's their job. Their job is

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to figure out what that thing is by making sure

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it is not a like, you know, a reflection on

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the camera or some sort of particles you know from

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some sort of solar you know, ejection or something like that,

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or even a malfunction of the device, you know. So

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that's what they do. They go through every single possible.

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Speaker 1: Thing, which is a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, exactly, I mean that's the point of

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the film, because I'm sure they do that. They analyze

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footage that's already done. But what we've done in this

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film is do it live so there's no cheating, and

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also there's multiple angles, and so that was the idea

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of trying to go the extra mile to do it

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this way, and to this day they still can't figure

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out what it is. Yeah, So we had the one

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camera that captured that opening and closing, and then we

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have the radar that picked up something exactly in that

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location as well.

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Speaker 2: Someone in the film you had that I've become pretty

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good friends with is Dave Mason. Yes, he's such a

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great guy, and what a solid guy, and what a

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guitar player.

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Speaker 1: You ever seen him, Yeah, it's a guitar player. Yeah.

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So that's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: But you had a lot of really interesting, great people

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in there and that that show, and you had that

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I think the right people that have an open mind.

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You know, science is always supposed to have an open

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mind and move on to the next thing. And like

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I just saw it in Dean Aliotto's film Last Night,

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where you know, Kevin Kanuuth brings this material to be

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analyzed that may have come from the Trinity Site and

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basically ends up being terrestrial and it's and it was

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just handled the perfect way, like while we have the answer,

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this is what it is, and not like no fighting

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it or anything. It's science. It's all science and that's

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what it is. And the film showed it instead of

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trying to or cutting it out completely because it wasn't

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dramatic enough. But I think it's it's always very important

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to see where science lands things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Actually they weren't open minded, oh really, yeah, I mean

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they are open minded in the sense of, yes, we're

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going to give this a try, but they weren't open

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minded in the sense of, oh, we're just going to

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believe anything or I mean, they were actually hardcore scientists

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on the team. And in fact, for example, you could

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not mention the C word as in consciousness as in

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CE five. That was sacrilege, Like it was strictly.

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Speaker 3: Science data, data data.

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Speaker 4: So so in that sense, you know, they weren't like

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just easily persuaded that it could be this, it could

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be that, which again, that was the point of the film,

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like you're saying, you know, you can appreciate that if

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we're going to get real answers, like you have to

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stick to that sort of science, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you just mentioned a word that I'd like to

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ask you about.

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Speaker 2: That's consciousness, because there's a lot of people that claim

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there's a consciousness factor to the encounters. Yes, and I've

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actually had two or three people on my shows trying

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to explain exactly what they mean. I still don't quite

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get it, because I don't really I don't think we

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really understand consciousness completely anyway.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, how would you say that there's a connection.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if this will segue into anything

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that you're doing, but how would you consider that? Yes?

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Speaker 4: So, actually what was interesting on set when we were

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filming A Terrance Guy?

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Speaker 3: I had Travis Taylor yes, and sidek oh, my god, Matthew,

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Matthew and Kevin gat Guy Yes.

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Speaker 4: And so what happened was Travis Taylor if you've seen

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Speaker 3: The wrench, Yeah, skink can walk a wrench.

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Speaker 4: He started out completely skeptical, like he was hardcore scientist,

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is a don't even mention anything. But he started to

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have so many experiences himself and felt things, you know,

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from invisible you know, things that would show up, appear, disappear,

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that he completely changed his outlook on things. And he

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realized in fact, he showed me a book that he

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had written even before, like a long time ago, on consciousness.

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So here we are on set, you know, and of

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course I totally believe in consciousness because I'm an experiencers.

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I've had so many experiences that cannot be explained, and

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so so I'm believing in this right and we all

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one of the days, they were all in the room

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and for some reason that conversation started and Chres Taylor

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was saying, well, you are conscious, aren't you? So consciousness

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exists you know, but that's where it ends. For Kevin

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Kanuth and Matthew it was more like, okay, we are

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conscious being. That's but you cannot prove anything. You cannot

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prove this or that, and they started this whole de it.

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I was having a blast, But you're right. At the

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end of the day, we don't really have a definition

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of what consciousness is. So I, of course I've worked

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with many different types of scientists, and to me, this

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is how I define consciousness, from Tom Campbell to Dean

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Rayden to all those scientists who really talk about it.

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an energy. It's a fundamental energy. When you say fundamental

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in physics or in science, it means that it's the beginning.

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it would be the before of anything.

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Speaker 3: It's fundamental.

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Speaker 4: So imagine this energy that is fundamental at the origin

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of everything, and from that energy everything emerges. Einstein said,

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matter is actually energy. So from that fundamental energy you

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have the physical world. You have matter, you have stars

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and planets, and you know, living beings, intelligent life in

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different forms. But at the base of everything is that

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same substance. That's the reason why uppeer we think we're separate.

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and here's a planet, and here's a star.

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Speaker 3: But we all.

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Speaker 4: Emerged from the same fabric, that same energy, in different

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format and different configurations. So we end up appearing different

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and separate. But it's that same original fabric that connects

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everything in all of life together. When you look at

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it from that perspective, thenpathy makes sense. Remote viewing makes sense,

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UFOs make sense because up here we think, oh, how

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can I communicate? How can I remote view from this

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point to that point? If we're separate, yes, but use

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you what I mean. At the root, we are not separate.

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That fabric continues to connect us all. So that's kind

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of Also, that energy is like a field, so if

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that field continues to exist at the source of everything,

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then all of the paranormal starts to make sense.

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Speaker 2: So do you think in general as a human species

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that we just consider, well, we're we're intelligent, and so

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you know the ant on the ground doesn't you know,

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doesn't have any of this because it's not as intelligent

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as us. But you're saying that it's all like it

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starts at the same like level. I heard someone on

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I watched a YouTube video unconsciousness because I'm trying to

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understand yes, and this theorist said that he does believe

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that he's going to be able to prove I don't

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know how we will that trees have consciousness.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's actually already been proven. You can research all

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there's plants. All plants are sentient beings. It's proven and

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shown that plants communicate. They talk to each other through

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the fungal system. So everything is interconnected through this network.

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just talking about this in my previous lecture earlier this afternoon.

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So what is the difference between you you emerge from

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this consciousness and your intelligent being and then the dog

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or the ants or whatever. So, as I said, they

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when you emerge or do you emerge with a new formula, right,

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put together this way, so then you in this geometric

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form and that's how you appear as a dog, or

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you appear as this or that. But each time you emerge,

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it's creation. Basically, it's purposeful. It's for a reason, it's

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not just random stuff. So I feel all the animals

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are here to work with the planet itself.

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Speaker 3: That's why they're on force.

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Speaker 4: So they circulate the energy you know, through their body

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and back into the Earth. So they're working with the

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pulse and the chemistry of the planet. For example, birds,

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they're working with the magnetic field of the planet. So

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each aspect of creation, including trees, including plant life, have

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specific purpose and specific roles within the overall picture.

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Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned like this, I believe you mentioned

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energy that type of thing. But you know a lot

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of people saying there's like a vibration is another aspect

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of connectiveness. You know, everything has a vibration to it,

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you know, whether it's our atoms or molecules, so whatever

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it is, that everything's vibrating, and it's so fascinating when

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you think of the world and like a quantum level,

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like there should it should be able to put my

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finger through this desk, you know, because it's there's so

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much space.

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Speaker 1: There and all that. I know, I'm getting a little

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Speaker 2: Here, but but as far as the you know, do

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you consider there's vibration as any part of this or

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is it a separate thing.

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Speaker 4: It's not a separate it's exactly that, like I said.

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world as physical because we are looking through the spectrum

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of how much the eyes can see, right, we can

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only see four hundred to seven hundred nanometers, you know,

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like that much. So anything that vibrates within that range

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is visible, and it looks static, looks material because it's

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vibrating within this slower range that it's almost stable, you know,

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almost stopped. But in fact, if you look at like

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under a microscope, for example, we are vibrating at a

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whole different frequency. When you look under a microscope, the

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cell is rotating, right, So even on a subatomic level,

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on a tiny molecular level, the oxygen is vibrating at

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a certain rate, and you're in every cell in your body,

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the carbon molecule, the nitrogen molecule, the you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: Everything is byvibrating.

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Speaker 4: But then all together it's vibrating with an arrange that

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appears material. So that's why there are other things that

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are in existence that we can't see because they're vibrating

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Speaker 2: I actually, I actually am totally on board with that, Yeah,

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because I feel as though we know very little about

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what's actually going on around us. I've said that many

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times on my show, just by you know, my experience

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and thoughts and I you know, I don't talk about

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it too often, but I had what would be considered

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a poltergeist situation at one time that I could not

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explain in a million years. But it just made me

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think about what the heck is really going on around us.

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It's just on the edge what we can see, you know,

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And is it another dimension?

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Speaker 1: Is it? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And what would that involve or a little time slip

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or whatever, you know. It's so fascinating to think about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, we have so much evidence that

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there are invisible things that exists even though we don't

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see them. In fact, all the waves sound waves exist,

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we don't see them, you know, the waves coming from

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the microwaves of our waves, we don't see them. So

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animals can see certain things that we can't see. They

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can see in the UV range we can't see that.

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But yet there's a whole world that exists. So there's

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a whole world beyond the human spectrum that continues to

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be alive and to exist.

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Speaker 3: So the idea, and you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If you've seen my film Superhuman, Okay, So in that film,

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what we've done we wanted to basically prove that it's

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the mind. It's the invisible part of you, so to speak,

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that is having the effect.

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Speaker 3: On your body or on the physical world. Right.

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Speaker 4: So we cannot measure the invisible because the devices are

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within the visible range, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, if the device is the visible.

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Speaker 4: Range, you cannot measure the invisible range in that way.

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But what we can do we can measure the effect

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between the invisible and the visible. So if I can

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so for example, I take this glass of water, and

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it cannot it's it's visible, physical, it's material, right, But

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my mind is invisible. You can't see my thoughts, right,

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and so can I with my thought look at the

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water and change the pH of water? Literally invisible have

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an effect, a measurable effect of water because I can

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measure the pH before and after.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense.

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Speaker 4: So we've done multiple experiments like this on DNA, on water,

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on moving objects and things like that under laboratory conditions,

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meaning you know, you ticket baseline, you leave the water

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for a while for days, and you know what I mean,

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strict laboratory condition And exactly at the time where I'm

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talking to the water or focusing on the water, I'm saying, okay,

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pH change pH change, and it starts to.

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Speaker 1: Change right in a lab situation.

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Speaker 3: In a lab situation. It's in a movie. You should

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watch it. Yeah, yeah, we've done that with DNA. DNA.

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Speaker 4: We tried to change the electrical conductivity of DNA, which

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is very significant. So we've done this experiment multiple times.

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were focusing on it and trying to raise the electricity,

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basically going through the impedance and so and every time

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again we measured the baselines, not doing anything, not doing

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anything on her and exactly at the time I said

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DNA change, boom, it goes up one hundred percent. The

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first time I did it with four hundred It's just

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like whoa. And then when you stop, it goes back down.

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We did that over and over, control groups everything else.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: I just measured the effect of something invisible on the

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visible that we can do this is proof that there's

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something over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to tell a personal story, not to me,

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but a really close friend of mine, because it's always

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just absolutely baffled.

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Speaker 1: Me how this happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she she was expecting a baby.

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Speaker 1: She had the baby.

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Speaker 2: The baby came very very early and was like one pound,

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and they didn't have any.

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Speaker 1: Hope for the baby at all.

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Speaker 2: So they called her in because they said, he's going

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he's going to go, and the sailine level was just dropping.

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The saline it was just going down, and she said,

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come in and say goodbye. She grabbed a hold of

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the baby's two legs, said she was just like a

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little stick from a drumstick, a little tiny little thing.

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She grabbed a hold of those two legs and she prayed,

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and she said, please raise the saline. Raise you don't

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like that whatever the meter started going up.

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Speaker 1: The kid is still alive today. See, I mean it

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was just to me. I mean I cried when she

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told me that story.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I said, I don't usually talk about

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personal things, but that was like the first bona fide

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type miracle i've ever heard of. And this this child,

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he's small and everything, but he doesn't have any health issues.

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And he made it. And you know, I thought, maybe

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it's the power of prayer. I don't know what it is,

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but it went up and he lived.

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Speaker 4: So this is, by the way, there are many examples

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like this, maybe not a baby, like a one pound baby,

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but similar things. So what is it that we're measuring.

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We're measuring the effect of consciousness. What is prayer is intention? Right,

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She's saying please, please, she's prayer. She's putting an intention

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of health of whatever. So that intention is coming from

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her consciousness.

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Speaker 3: Right. It doesn't matter where, you know, like.

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Speaker 4: Where who she's asking our kangel, Michael or God or Jesus,

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it doesn't matter. It's her consciousness that's projecting that frequency,

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that intention of health, of survival, of thriving, right, And

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that is true.

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Speaker 3: Is affecting that.

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Speaker 4: Frequency of her thought is affecting the chemistry of the baby.

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Speaker 3: Just like this.

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Speaker 4: We just changed the chemistry of the water the pH

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you change the chemistry, Does that make sense? It's more

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or less hydrogen molecules, same thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to send her this video. Yes, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So that's why this is so important because it's very empowering.

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If we can do this to water, if we can

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do this, it means we can heal ourselves.

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Speaker 2: So I'd like to talk a little bit if I can't,

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you know, Unfortunately it has to be a sort of

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they need to use this room, so it's going to

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be kind of a short interview. But as an experiencer,

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if you can talk a little bit about that, like,

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I want to know, like what you think it was

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and when it began.

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Speaker 3: So for me, it started out when I was five.

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Speaker 4: I had an experience where I suddenly saw beings in

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the room and well, actually it wasn't like a person standing,

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It was more of light. And then what happened is

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I felt like we were merged, like we just like

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I became in the light and they became.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of one of those feelings of becoming one

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with something. And all of a sudden I realized we

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were talking obviously telepathically, and I remember they were saying

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that it was kind of like I'm on this side

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of the veil and a body and they were like

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the rest of me, like a stream of consciousness, and

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I felt like they were my family kind of. And

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so so they said that's how you communicate, that's how

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you continue communicating with other realms, you know. And so

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so that was at five, of course. I mean I

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was like, oh, okay, you know, like I didn't.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a frame of reference. Yeah, it's like, okay, whatever,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: What about your did you tell your parents?

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Speaker 4: I didn't say anything because I thought it was a

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natural thing because it felt amazing. It felt comfortable and

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easy and beautiful, like it wasn't scary or anything like that.

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It was like a spaceship or it was just like

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this organic light something and so and familiar, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It was familiar, like I know them, I know this,

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you know.

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Speaker 4: And so so that's why I didn't say anything because

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I thought that all children have those experiences. So I

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didn't think like I was special. I didn't think, you know, like,

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oh this happened to me. So I said nothing.

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Speaker 3: It was later that I was like, wait, what was that?

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Speaker 4: Especially that these beings continued continue to kind of communicate

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every now and then. So that's how I kind of

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grew up already with an understanding that there's a whole

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world that is invisible, but it's very real and so

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so of course I got to college and then I

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was like, well, maybe there's something wrong with me here.

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Speaker 1: How did you talk about it with friends or anything?

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In the introm not.

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Speaker 4: Like that, but sometimes I would ask what do you

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are you able to see?

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Speaker 3: Like? What's you know?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with this person?

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Speaker 4: Like because I would like look at someone and I

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could see like they have a stomach issue or something,

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or a back ache or something just by looking at them,

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and so like nobody could. And then I would ask

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the person did you have surgery on your shoe?

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Speaker 3: And they're like, yeah, how did you know?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Things like that.

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Speaker 4: So I realized like I was doing something, but I

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didn't know what, you know. So then I started to

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study like conscient I realized my course in psychology in

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college didn't help. It was just like, okay, you're not crazy,

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move on. So so I realized, okay, we're talking about consciousness,

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we're talking about invisible worlds, we're talking about our normal

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or that's what it is. So I spent like twenty

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years kind of meditating, you know, training myself to understand

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how it works. Who are these beings, How do I communicate?

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Like do I communicate with them? Like just with a

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you know, like a Palladian? Like what's the difference, am

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I saying a flying saucer or you know, a spaceship

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or is that my imagine?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Like I would train myself to understand what I was doing,

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to make sure I wasn't making stuff up?

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? I wasn't projecting?

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Speaker 4: And so it took a long time to train because

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then I would have evidence like did I make up

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that I just saw somebody in the other room write

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something on a piece of paper, you know, But then

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I would go and check you see what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I train.

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Speaker 4: And then I would have like a being show up,

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you know, and we would communicate, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so I learned about the different types of beings

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this way, and of.

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Speaker 4: Course UFOs UFOs would show up and then we would communicate,

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and I was like, did I make this up? Then

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I'd be like, well, if you can hear me, of course,

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just communicate, you know, do something. And then they were

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like split up in two and then I'd be like,

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oh that's cool, Well what else can you do? And

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then they would split in four, you know what I mean,

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So I would have evidence it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like orbs type of thing.

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Speaker 4: Or that particular incident that I'm telling you about was

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actually three orbs and they were like bouncing off of each.

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Speaker 3: Other like this. So I looked at him like, I

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was like, are you.

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Speaker 4: And then they're like I could hear yes, you know,

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I mean I could sense you know that's and then

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I'd be like, so how do I know? Then they

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could bouncing, and then they split me to four, then

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they split me to six, and I remember I was

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in Utah at the time, and I said, Okay, that's

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pretty cool. And then I said, well, if you can

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hear me, then follow me. So I left the house

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and I was like in this community and start walking

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like maybe half a mile.

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Speaker 3: And they were literally like.

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Speaker 4: So that's how I would have evidence that there was

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some sort of connection going on.

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Speaker 2: Now, was there ever a time where other people were

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with you and they saw these things too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So actually that that story that same incident. So then

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I was like, okay, that's cool, and here comes the lady.

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Speaker 3: I remember it's nighttime, maybe nine pm, so it was

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pretty dark.

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Speaker 4: It was in a community and here comes this neighbor

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and she's walking her dog.

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Speaker 3: I was like, perfect, So.

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Speaker 4: I said, hey, hi, you know, I said, do you

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see these things?

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Speaker 3: And then she looks up. She's like, oh, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: Probably the like it's like some festival or something downtown.

478
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She was like, way way way, you know, like far

479
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,480
away maybe yeah, search light yeah.

480
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Speaker 3: And I was like, but there's no beams.

481
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: It's like not these things are like, you know, search

482
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,440
lights don't do that.

483
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Speaker 3: I was like. And then she goes about about her

484
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,519
you know, walking her dog.

485
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: And then I was like, but look that don't look

486
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,799
like search lights and she was like no, no, yeah,

487
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,640
like she could not like she saw them, but for her,

488
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480
like she didn't even want to go there, sure, you

489
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:56,000
know what I mean.

490
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Speaker 3: So that's another thing. Why you know some people look

491
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at this guy.

492
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: One person would see something and the other person would

493
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,400
see it differently. You know, there's no being, there's no

494
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:09,279
search light. I mean, it just didn't make any sense.

495
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,279
And what search lights split into six and three and

496
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
then disappear, you know what I mean.

497
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,359
Speaker 3: So so it's yeah, that story. I remember. So things

498
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:19,720
like that.

499
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Speaker 4: So when you have that, you know, many times during

500
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,480
your lifetime. Come on, you know there's something there. You know,

501
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:34,640
we don't know everything how it works. I'm I'm doing

502
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,079
my best to bring some scientific data, like through the

503
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:44,359
movies that I do, at least two find that can

504
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,880
be evidence that there is something happening with that connection

505
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,799
from the invisible to the visible, and we just have

506
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to keep studying that.

507
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Speaker 1: Right.

508
00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: What's on the agenda for anything upcoming besides doing these

509
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:01,279
type of lectures.

510
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I am in the middle of finishing Superhuman Too,

511
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:09,240
which is the sequel of Superhuman that's where we measure

512
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:13,480
the effects of consciousness. Yeah, so I'm doing that, and

513
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,680
I'm also after that, I'm going to finish the sequel

514
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,640
of a tear in this Guy.

515
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: You are, yes, excellent, Yes, wow, Yeah, that was exciting that.

516
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
I loved the fact that you well, you know, you

517
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:31,480
had such a small period of time to gather something

518
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:33,640
and there were some things happen.

519
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,359
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, and we said, you know, what are the

520
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,079
odds that exactly in those five days? Yeah, you know,

521
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,680
all of this data was going to collect. We were

522
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,480
going to collect and what does that mean? That means?

523
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: So Travis Taylor, I remember we were having this conversation.

524
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,799
Speaker 4: Right after, and he said, the fact that we collected

525
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,880
so much data and these five days tells us two things.

526
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Either one, it's happening all the time.

527
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happening all the time. Because most of the

528
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,759
data we collected also was in the flear cameras, which

529
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,359
is the high infrared range, so the high prarid rage

530
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,240
you cannot see in the naked eye.

531
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: This means that this stuff is happening all the time.

532
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: We're just you know, well nobody's walking around with clear cameras,

533
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,160
you know what I.

534
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:22,799
Speaker 2: Mean, right, I've often wondered what it would be like,

535
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,240
you know, when I'm in a place where I see

536
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,160
a nice open sky, Like if a camera had or

537
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,640
someone was looking up safe for fifty years straight, what

538
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,720
they would see in that amount of time.

539
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,839
Speaker 1: I know they would see something.

540
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: You know, in that maybe a very short amount of time.

541
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,200
But I'm just saying a random area of just plane

542
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400
looking up, you know, because I've spent you know, my

543
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,359
encounter that I had, I was in a hot tub,

544
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,599
and then I've had other situations in a hot tub.

545
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:58,000
I mean, I saw the most amazing fireball. I've talked

546
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:00,359
to people like Mark D'Antonio about it because it just

547
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,680
was so amazing, and I talked about it once on

548
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,599
my show, described it very well, and someone from Nova

549
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,559
Scotia said they was that in the mid eighties. I said, yes,

550
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,039
their grandparents saw Wow. They described about the same thing.

551
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,880
So but anyway, I'm digressing here, but thank you so much,

552
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:21,559
and thank you for the work you do, and.

553
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're you know, a lot of times people think.

554
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: Well, these people can go kind of fringe or whatever,

555
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,000
but you know, you take the time and have a

556
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,119
scientific approach to the things. I think that's very admirable

557
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,960
and not just you know, trying to get views or whatever.

558
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Like you're at least, you know, taking that approach.

559
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: So I do appreciate that.

560
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing my best. Thanks so much. Appreciate it very much.

561
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,799
Speaker 1: Yes, very good, Take care now.

562
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Thank you