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<v Speaker 1>Phoning in. We're taking your calls on the LA Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>right now. This is Clippers Talk on Aaron on Demand,

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers Show of Record.

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<v Speaker 2>Your chance to react to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers Clippers news happens. Let me guess it's about Kawhi.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here it is the host of your LA Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>free and postgame.

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<v Speaker 1>At follow Adam a adam Ousley. Clippers play their best

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<v Speaker 1>late in the fourth as they pull away from the

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<v Speaker 1>Utah Jazz and win one thirty one ten Here at

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<v Speaker 1>into a Dome. Welcome into your postgame show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers Talk. I'm out a Maslin coming up. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>your phone calls at eight six six ninety seven two

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<v Speaker 1>five seventy eight sixty six ninety seven two five seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also get to me at follow out of

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<v Speaker 1>May or you could be watching on YouTube at Clippers Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the most impressive victory. I do have some concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a must win and they play their

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<v Speaker 1>best when it was required. That's not nothing. Does this

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers team need to improve? Yeah? Do they need three

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<v Speaker 1>days off more than anything? Yes? I expect them to

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<v Speaker 1>be much better. Not look this old in this slow

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<v Speaker 1>like we've seen the last four games or so. On

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday against Memphis, That's what I'm looking towards tonight. They

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<v Speaker 1>got down early thanks to the Jazz starting eat of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven from three. Jordan Clarkson, I mean, hitting his first

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<v Speaker 1>three threes a thirty footer. We know who he is,

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers serial killer of the next Netflix True Crime is

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<v Speaker 1>the way he does like he walks into a Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>game with a heat check. Jordan Clarkson is just unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>against this team. Been doing it for years. Didn't play yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he'd be fresh. Look and his chops looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this Clippers team like they were food. This was

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<v Speaker 1>red meat for them. It was great to start. This

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<v Speaker 1>ballgame eventually cooled off, as did the Utah Jazz. They

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<v Speaker 1>started eat of eleven from three. As I mentioned, they

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<v Speaker 1>finished three for their last eighteen. Meanwhile, the Clippers saved

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<v Speaker 1>their best for last five to five in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter from the outside when they had to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was there, and I think the real turning point

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of that third quarter where James Harden

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<v Speaker 1>had a three in and won the big DJ lob

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<v Speaker 1>from a mere coffee. That was big. It got them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of separation, but the Jazz weren't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>going away. They were still battling in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kawhi Leonard has been struggling for the fourth straight game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's also had his minutes increase happen, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been correlating with this. So I want to say that's

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<v Speaker 1>the connection. We don't need to make these long reaching

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions that, oh, Kawhi is wash now, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear anybody saying that the first nine games of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>or he's playing just twenty minutes, then just twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>then twenty eight. But now he's over thirty, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in age, he's thirty three, but over thirty minutes. He's

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<v Speaker 1>looked gassed the last four and it compounds by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they aren't getting two days off or about

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<v Speaker 1>to get three days off. But he's played the last

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<v Speaker 1>nine Clippers games. It's a lot for a guy first

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<v Speaker 1>returning from injury. So I was talking with Utah Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>radio analyst Ron Boone, former player. He thinks he just

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<v Speaker 1>looks lethargic out there, is tired. It's only thirteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking you know, someone who's been there and

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<v Speaker 1>done it. That's what he thinks it is, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he sees out there. I don't see a hitch in

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<v Speaker 1>his gait. I don't see a guy who's glitchy out

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<v Speaker 1>there with his movement. It looks fluid. It just looks slower,

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<v Speaker 1>slower than it did the first five to eight games

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<v Speaker 1>when he first came back, really to nine games. That

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<v Speaker 1>game where he had twenty seven against San Antonio, he

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<v Speaker 1>looked awesome, and I said, at that point, I'm confident

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<v Speaker 1>he can get back to the version of player he

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<v Speaker 1>was last season. He didn't have structural damage. Guys he

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<v Speaker 1>has swelling. There's a difference. He's still out of surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know the details about that. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>need to see is after three days off, Kawhi Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>and this team in general, look fresh, look like they

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<v Speaker 1>have pop out there, look like they can lock down

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<v Speaker 1>anyone defensively, because the last se been games coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this one, they've been nineteenth on that end, and teams

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<v Speaker 1>have been shooting once't you know, thirty nine percent from

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<v Speaker 1>three the last seven games. Tonight, Utah Jazz shoot thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine point five percent from three. Against the Clippers start

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<v Speaker 1>off much hotter than that. But if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the issue and why defensively they haven't been as good,

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<v Speaker 1>is that teams have been knocking down threes. You can

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<v Speaker 1>say it's shooting variants, you can say it's shooting luck.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers on the season, opponents are shooting around thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four percent from the outside, top three in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been a big part of why they've been so

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<v Speaker 1>good defensively. So if they're slippage on the defensive end,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be because, yeah, teams are hitting threes against them. Now, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always said I think there's a cumulative effect that

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<v Speaker 1>happens to teams playing the Clippers because their defense has

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<v Speaker 1>been so good and physical, it takes something out of

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<v Speaker 1>their legs. And even when guys have wide open shots,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been missing against them. But it's possible it's just

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<v Speaker 1>been some good fortune on their side. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking almost half a season of them being a

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<v Speaker 1>top defensive team until just recently, and the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that stands out is opponents three point shooting. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>much better against them. The game started that way, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jazz still ended up at thirty nine percent. That's

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm watching our rotations as crisp as they are,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they are bringing the same level of intensity

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<v Speaker 1>to Clippers. I don't know that to be a factor

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm not seeing enough closeouts, enough sound rotations,

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<v Speaker 1>and five guys on a string. I think it's tired legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's them having that five and seven stretch

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<v Speaker 1>and that six games, nine nights stretch after the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>adjustment with the fires here in southern California. That has

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<v Speaker 1>a residual effect, and I think the Clippers are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I think Kauhai specifically has been dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>some of this. When James Harden had to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>he could drive, go left, get layups, get in ones,

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<v Speaker 1>and was really good in the second half shooting wise.

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<v Speaker 1>After starting. I want to say he started two of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven or two of twelve in this ball game. He

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<v Speaker 1>finished with twenty six point maybe twenty three points in

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<v Speaker 1>a season high seventeen assists for Harden, seven of eighteen shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there was an easier path to victory

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<v Speaker 1>for this Clippers team. Just give it to Big Zoo

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<v Speaker 1>and get out of the way. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to help him know in future games, And

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, could win that way, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>vary your offense. Eventually, he had matchup advantages tonight. The

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<v Speaker 1>Utah Jazz are down. Guys. They won twelve games this season.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on a back to back. That's why allow those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are out. But as easy it would be to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get Zoo a forty twenty game, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you learn anything. He was great. He had twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six and fifteen on thirteen of sixteen shooting, and when

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<v Speaker 1>they had to have it after a timeout, they'd just

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<v Speaker 1>lob it over the defense to it beats the Zoo

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<v Speaker 1>bots for easy buckets. Went in doubt, find big Zoo

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<v Speaker 1>to carry us through. It's good to see, but I

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<v Speaker 1>need to see Kawhi get it going. James Harden start

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<v Speaker 1>faster with his offense. No warm Powell was still good tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six points on eighteen shots, and he also put

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<v Speaker 1>his head down and got to the basket he needed to.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mere Coffee was great off the bench, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>great timely threes five of eight from the outside for

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<v Speaker 1>his seventeen points. But I know this isn't satisfying enough

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<v Speaker 1>to Cliper Nation. They need to see it against the

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday, and then they got to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Utah, so back to back before the All Star Break.

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis one of the best teams in the Western Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Clipper's got one of their best victories this season against

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<v Speaker 1>them without Kawhi in Memphis. They're not gonna forget about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking to see Kawhi with more pop out

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<v Speaker 1>there after three days off. I need twenty plus points

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<v Speaker 1>from him because this team goes as far as Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard takes them, and if he's not right or not

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<v Speaker 1>the same player as he was last season, we got problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Not pushing the panic button, I'm not sounding the alarms,

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<v Speaker 1>I am saying, I'm monitoring the situation after the last

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<v Speaker 1>four games. I think it's tired legs, lactic acid build up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a guy who's only played thirteen games

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season and has been playing about every

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<v Speaker 1>other day lately while getting his minutes extended. While his

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<v Speaker 1>minutes have been rising, his energy, he's looked drained. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense anyone? It seems logical. Nobody was saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was washed after the first nine games. The last

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<v Speaker 1>fours minutes have gone up. As he's been playing more

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<v Speaker 1>games every other day, he's looked more tired out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looked slower. So I'm hoping that's it. We'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick time out. We'll come back. Get to your

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls eight sixty six ninety seven two five seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight sixty six ninety seven two five seventy. I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>of Maasland. You're listening to Clippers Stock here on five

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<v Speaker 1>seventy LA Sports. Okrahams throws it off.

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<v Speaker 2>The window finishes in the fowel Los Angeles Slipper Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your home for the LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Take us with you on the Ihearts RADIOIP.

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers win one thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it into a dome. They pull away in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. This the Clippers went five of five from

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<v Speaker 1>three in the fourth. Welcome back in. This is Clippers Stock.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm outa Moslin eight six sixth ninety seven two five

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy

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<v Speaker 1>is the phone number. I know. There's stuff outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Are there some bigger picture stuff like Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard and how he's looked. And I just did a

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<v Speaker 1>show on this the other day, In fact, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was yesterday. The days just string together for me

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because we are one hundred and twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>days straight here on Clippers Talk, giving you new content

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<v Speaker 1>every day, regardless if there was an actual Clippers game

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<v Speaker 1>or not. We haven't stopped. October fourth was the last

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<v Speaker 1>day we have not had a show here if you're

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<v Speaker 1>following at Clippers Talk on the YouTube side. So yesterday, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Eric Pinkason. We talked salary cap and the

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<v Speaker 1>Clipper situation this summer and after the moves and the

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<v Speaker 1>trades and how much money they'd have to spend on

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons. It looks like that's happening. As reported by

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<v Speaker 1>law Murray, Ben Simmons looks to be a Clipper, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as Monday and he clears waivers. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>been monitoring Kawhi. I've been monitoring Kawhi Leonard the last

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<v Speaker 1>three games heading into this one, so it's been four

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<v Speaker 1>games of his thirteen so far that I've been like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>is he tired or does he not have it. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he not stepping on the gas and pushing things as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he could, or is he stepping on the

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<v Speaker 1>gas and there's just nothing left in the tank. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what we're seeing right now is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we're seeing, but it's worth monitoring. He's had

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<v Speaker 1>ten turnovers over the last two games. That is very

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<v Speaker 1>unlike Kawhi. Leonard and I chronicled every play from this

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<v Speaker 1>game tonight in my notes, every Kawhi play, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>for you tomorrow here on Clippers Talk, as I tease

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<v Speaker 1>this out because I asked coach Lou Pregame about how

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<v Speaker 1>it is a subplot to everything going on right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because ultimately, if Kawhi isn't the same, yeah, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>a competitor in the Western Conference. He's their best player.

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<v Speaker 1>Need him to be Kawhi Leonard. They need the same

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<v Speaker 1>for two months he shot fifty seven fifty one to

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two splits. Shooting splits. That's that's the Kauhi. You

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<v Speaker 1>close to that yet, but especially the last four games

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<v Speaker 1>as the minutes have gone up. Where you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it tonight, just ten points, ten points and thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on four of nine shooting, I think the more

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<v Speaker 1>alarming numbers he only got up nine shots. There were

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<v Speaker 1>times he was not even looking for the basketball in

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter early on now they were for each

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<v Speaker 1>beats zoubots. But I don't know if he touched the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball the first four minutes of the third quarter coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the half, and he wasn't asking for it

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<v Speaker 1>after he just got rest, and he still looked tired

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<v Speaker 1>out there. The way he is running around ragged defensively

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<v Speaker 1>at times, I hope people have taken note of him being,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out of position. I've seen it too. I've

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<v Speaker 1>also seen him make up for others mistakes, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like, oh, that's on Kauahi when it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm telling you nine shots in thirty one minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna have to get up to nineteen shots

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<v Speaker 1>consistently to be the number one in your go to

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<v Speaker 1>guy again on a team that is competing in the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference. Last game out against Indiana on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 1>he took sixteen shots. He only made seven of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He was three or six from the outs. He had

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen points, but five turnovers just like tonight, and sloppy turnovers,

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<v Speaker 1>spinning into a double team having it ripped he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the very next possession down on the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was in the fourth quarter, spun into

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<v Speaker 1>am I'm watching every possession with Kawhi right now because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the problem. It would be one thing if he

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<v Speaker 1>couple thirty point games, and we said, Okay, he's back,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good, We're secure with it. He's the same Kauhi,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's just going through a shooting slump, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it happens. But he hasn't got all the way there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't really stepped on the gas. He's had twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven points, and he looked really good against Antonio. In

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<v Speaker 1>his first nine games, I think everybody was satisfied and

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying, damn, he's ahead of his asual of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the last four where he hasn't looked great

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<v Speaker 1>and he is shooting just thirty eight percent from the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he is shooting thirty eight percent from three

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<v Speaker 1>over that time, but he's only getting fifteen points per

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<v Speaker 1>game and the minutes are around twenty eight. But he

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers in that blowout, thirty three against Indiana, thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>a night against Utah. There is a direct correlation between

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<v Speaker 1>a direct correlation between more games being played by Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>almost every other day. He's played their last nine games.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Carlo Amen has said so. He plays the

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<v Speaker 1>game against Washington on January twenty third, he plays the

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<v Speaker 1>game January twenty fifth against Milwaukee, January twenty seventh against Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty ninth against San Antonio, the thirty first against Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the second of February, the fourth, the sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth. He's been playing every other day, literally every

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<v Speaker 1>other day, for the last nine games. Couldn't it be

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as that, while the minutes have been going up,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been playing every other day. Couldn't that account for

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<v Speaker 1>why he looks tired out there? Do we have to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's washed now after we all said, man, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>prett damn good, he looks great. I'm not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>make any leaps to the W word, the wash. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do it yet, because I've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>too many times with Kawhi where he starts the season

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<v Speaker 1>slowly and then flips the switch. Everyone was thinking he

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<v Speaker 1>was washed last season at the beginning, they were I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the tweets. You know, I got their seats here.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it up at follow out of May. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check it. I just did this the other day

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<v Speaker 1>the show that Look, there is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>time whereas Kawhi gets older and he comes back from

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<v Speaker 1>these injuries and he's not gonna look the same there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is going to happen at some point, happens to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen to Kawhi, Lebron James at some point

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<v Speaker 1>isn't gonna be the same. Is it happening right now

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty three, coming off an injury where there was

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<v Speaker 1>no structural damage. I'm not gonna say that yet because

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<v Speaker 1>we just have a body of work from less than

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago of him looking fantastic. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But if you're wondering why I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Kawai so much in a game the Clippers won by twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because he isn't look good the last four games

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<v Speaker 1>and for them to get to where they want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to he's got to be himself. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a star, he's got to be an All NBA player.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's bigger things to me in a twenty point

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<v Speaker 1>victory then them winning one thirty to one ten over

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<v Speaker 1>the Jazz. I'm watching, Kawhi. I always am Angels in

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<v Speaker 1>the outfield. We're always watching. We'll take a quick time out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you're watching at Clippers talk on the YouTube side

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<v Speaker 1>eight six six nine seven two five seventy. I promise

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to your phone calls coming up here. I'm sorry, Steve, JP, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get to you guys coming up next. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of Milesland, live from into a Dome. After the

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers win one thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz,

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<v Speaker 1>they break their three game losing streak and now they

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<v Speaker 1>have three days off. You're listening to a five seventy

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<v Speaker 1>LA Sports throws it up the window finishes in the fowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles Slipper Nation. This is your home for the

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<v Speaker 2>LA Clippers. LA Clippers take us with you on the

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<v Speaker 2>Ihearts Radio II.

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers win won thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking a lot about Kawhi because he hasn't looked

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<v Speaker 1>great over the last four games, even in a Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>twenty point victory where they didn't look great throughout most

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<v Speaker 1>of it but got hot from three in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and pulled away eight six six ninety seven two five seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a guy Toby in the chat and he just

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<v Speaker 1>wants to talk about Kawhi, and I talk about him

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<v Speaker 1>all the time too. I just did a show where

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<v Speaker 1>I went through his game logs from past times coming

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<v Speaker 1>back from injuries. Was looking at minutes how long it

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<v Speaker 1>takes him to ramp up. Last year he had a

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<v Speaker 1>training camp and he looked slow coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>gates in the regular season, and then in his hit

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<v Speaker 1>his second win, hit the NOSS and Kawhi took over

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<v Speaker 1>and was the best version of himself offensively ever in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season he was I'm thinking this is a

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<v Speaker 1>wind issue. I'm not discounting the fact that swelling in

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<v Speaker 1>your knee isn't bad. I am saying that connected with

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<v Speaker 1>structural damage would be way, way worse. To this guy

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<v Speaker 1>Toby in the chat, Kawhi's gotta put together a string

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty five point games where he looks uber efficient

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<v Speaker 1>and can't miss in the mid range. At first, it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like that his first few games back, he was

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<v Speaker 1>moving really well and everything just looked automatic. That first

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Lakers, for instance, J. J. Reddick came

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<v Speaker 1>out afterwards and said, Kawhi just doesn't miss, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what you do. He gets to a spot

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<v Speaker 1>and he just doesn't miss. And he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>from that game. He just wasn't even aggressive tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>that looked to me like a guy who was tired

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<v Speaker 1>deferring to others and not even looking for the basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Early in the third quarter, I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>touched the ball, like the first four minutes in their

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<v Speaker 1>half court set the start of the second half. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Mike and La. Mike quickly, you got thirty

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, Yeah, it was with Kwhy I mean you do?

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is just you know, some more time off,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you know, limiting his minutes back, I mean taking

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<v Speaker 1>Down or or Mike, it's as simple as he has

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this to get his win back, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go through this conditioning, and there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be times where you're gassed and your lethargic, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's lactic acid build up because you haven't played basketball

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<v Speaker 1>at a high level in a long time. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is just what you go through because that's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>been in the past for him. Isn't that the easiest answer? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I I the three Also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you know, Ben Simmons is going to

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<v Speaker 3>us the second unit, and you know, just having another

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<v Speaker 3>also Paul and you know, couldn't help the three pound.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I appreciate the phone call, Mike. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>know me. Over the last week, I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons and I've kind of piggybacked on to what

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<v Speaker 1>as a small ball five makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And because they couldn't get you know, Robert Williams or

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't get one of these guys. They got Drew Ubanks,

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<v Speaker 1>who got hurt tonight. Unfortunately, see if we have an

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<v Speaker 1>update on him. But they also brought in Bogee and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be available on Wednesday. It sounds like you

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<v Speaker 1>talked with the media post game bo Don Bogdanovic. So

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't pick up, you know, the perfect backup center

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<v Speaker 1>or the perfect backup ball handler, but you got somebody

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<v Speaker 1>According to reports, nothing's official, and ask the Lakers and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can clear waivers on Monday and then

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<v Speaker 1>he could be a Clipper. But I really like to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up because it gives you more options to how

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<v Speaker 1>you can play out there, and one way coach lou

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<v Speaker 1>loves to play as small We know that small ball

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<v Speaker 1>of Ben Simmons at the five passing. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this earlier and Russ Stans got upset, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>what always happens, because you can criticize anybody on this

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers team over the last well the seven years that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here, I could criticize anybody, and I have.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you criticize Russ, then it's like in a

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<v Speaker 1>front to mankind or something, or to Russ like, they

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<v Speaker 1>will burn it down. They will try to bully you

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<v Speaker 1>and call you names and do everything in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm just being trying to be fair with

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<v Speaker 1>analysis of how I see it, just like I will

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<v Speaker 1>with anyone else. But you know, other guys don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a hive. There's no a mere coffee hive. When I

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<v Speaker 1>criticized him for how he played in the playoffs last

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<v Speaker 1>year against Dallas, he struggled, you do against Russ, They're

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<v Speaker 1>on you like piranhas. So I was talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>he's different Ben Simmons than Russ, even though neither guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a good shooter. Russ would still try to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>and probably take shots he shouldn't. Ben Simmons just won't.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, he will turn down shots, which sometimes is

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<v Speaker 1>bad if he's overpassing or being so unselfish to the

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<v Speaker 1>point he's got a layup or a dunk or an

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<v Speaker 1>easy look, he doesn't take it. That's not good either,

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<v Speaker 1>But I will take that because the difference is he's

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<v Speaker 1>the five. You can hide a non shooter playing the

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<v Speaker 1>five much easier than you can hide a non shooter

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<v Speaker 1>who's a guard. In Russ, there's a huge difference between

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys. So I'm excited about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>coach lou if Abay can figure it out with Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons and Tim. Let's go JP and los JP. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on clippersop with out of Mason h JP.

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? What's up? Adam? Just so you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>am in the coffee hives.

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<v Speaker 1>But I spoke too soon. If you want to smack me,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bad taling. I'm also in a dark place about

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<v Speaker 4>the Clippers. It's not just about I think here analysis

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<v Speaker 4>about QUI performances appropriate. So I think you're spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>But the bigger problem is that at best were like

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<v Speaker 4>the sixth He's you know, we're the sixties. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>best that we're going to be. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>win the championship. Uh, and we would need some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of series of miracles to do. So what we really

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<v Speaker 4>need is for Kwie to look like he could theoretically

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<v Speaker 4>be MDP so that we can trade him in the

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<v Speaker 4>off season and reboot. Because we got we made a

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<v Speaker 4>deal with the Devil. We traded SGA. Everybody wanted it

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<v Speaker 4>except for me and uh, JP.

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me at that time you would not have

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<v Speaker 1>done the SGA trade. You were the one guy said.

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, okay, I I'm not telling you the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>I was happy to trade happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not one hundred percent telling the truth. You were

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<v Speaker 1>happy to trade happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold On, I really worried that that he it was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be really good and.

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<v Speaker 1>We all me an all star. Nobody said, hey George,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate you hate Paul George and.

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<v Speaker 4>And and what has happened is this is the crime.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the true crime. I'm a Clipper fan because

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<v Speaker 4>I hate the Lakers because of two thousand and two playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? You hate the Lakers because of

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand and two Western Conference Finals where the

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<v Speaker 1>Kings got screwed. Are we cut from the same author what?

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly how I became a fan. And uh it

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<v Speaker 4>was right when I moved out here. So uh we

484
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<v Speaker 4>finally had the Laker group just dominating and humiliating them,

485
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<v Speaker 4>and we were like a cat and a mouse and

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<v Speaker 4>watching them lose with so much fun, and going to

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<v Speaker 4>Crypto and having a friend mock a family wearing matching

488
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<v Speaker 4>Lebron James jerseys was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, quickly wrap it up for me.

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<v Speaker 4>What're the tough times, man, So just just just help

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<v Speaker 4>help me think of positive things as not being real

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<v Speaker 4>sad about the comper going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right, JP, I will try to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>positive stuff. I don't want you to be sad about

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers moving forward. Clippers do win. Here's something positive.

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<v Speaker 1>One thirty to one ten in a game where they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play that well against the Utah Jazz but kind

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<v Speaker 1>of flipped the switch in the fourth quarter ended up

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<v Speaker 1>winning by twenty. Anyways, quick time out looking for more positives.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to hear from coach lou post game. I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>of Maslin live from into a dome and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Clippers hockey on the M five seventy. LA Sports

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<v Speaker 1>throws it up.

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<v Speaker 2>The window finishes in the fowl Los Angeles Slipper Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your home for the LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Take us with you on the Ihearts radio wip.

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers win won thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the way James Harden turned this game around.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't playing well, the Clippers weren't overall. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he and Norman Palell and Big Zoo. Of course, although

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00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 1>it almost came too easy, they could have won this

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<v Speaker 1>game much easier if they just played through each to zoobots.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's Warren just winning at stake. They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build a foundation offensively that they can rely

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<v Speaker 1>on against really good teams. The Jazz are not just

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<v Speaker 1>a bad team. They were missing a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>best players tonight, marking in John Collins calling Sexton. They

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<v Speaker 1>did have a Clipper serial killer in Jordan Clarkson. He

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<v Speaker 1>had fourteen points in the first quarter. He would eventually

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<v Speaker 1>cool off, but at the half James Harden was two

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<v Speaker 1>of nine. He would end up going in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of this ball game. This aw five of nine.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll take it, big and ones fout on a three

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<v Speaker 1>pointer as usual, and he had seventeen assists to five turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some It's not that he had a bad game.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say he had a bad scoring game early on,

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<v Speaker 1>because the assists were there all game long. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say he had six assists in the opening quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Harden was diming out there. He had eight assists in

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<v Speaker 1>the opening quarter. My goodness. A lot of the conversation, though,

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<v Speaker 1>has been centered around Kawhi Leonard, how he looks so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, I'm watching. We do a player to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the pregame show every game, and that rotates on who

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<v Speaker 1>you choose. When tonight I had Drew Eubanks, who unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>got banged up after looking pretty good out there. He

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<v Speaker 1>was two of two or four points in six minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>but rolled n Ankel. Don't have an update to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have an update for you on that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always watching Kawhi Leonard in his movement. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>asked postgame if he thinks about not stepping on his

542
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<v Speaker 1>teammate's toes as he works his way back, because he

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<v Speaker 1>was noticeably deferring and not even asking for the basketball

544
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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the second half. He said, quote, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. No, I don't feel no way about

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<v Speaker 1>stepping on anybody's toes. It's not like with a number

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<v Speaker 1>one seed or something. Yeah, that's fair, because what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying about Kawhi is when people say, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make them worse, he's gonna hurt them. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been saying, guys, how exactly is he gonna hurt them?

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<v Speaker 1>On offense, they're like a bottom five offense the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>second coming into this game. But with Kawhi on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>they have played I know some of you aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>believe this because he hasn't looked great the last four games,

555
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<v Speaker 1>but with Kawhi on the court coming into this game,

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<v Speaker 1>so his first twelve games, they have an offensive rating

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<v Speaker 1>of one nineteen that would be second best in the

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<v Speaker 1>league to the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's basically a top three

559
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<v Speaker 1>offense when he's on the court coming into this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now might go down a little bit, might go down

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<v Speaker 1>to one to eighteen after this game, or one to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen point one or something, but they have been not

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<v Speaker 1>just much better, like ten points better per one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>possessions on offense with him on the court so far.

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<v Speaker 1>They've also been better defensively, where they've had a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>rating of one to oh six coming into this game.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kawhi Leonard on the court, that's better than their

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<v Speaker 1>one to eight rating, which is second on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So for as much as people are panicking, you look

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<v Speaker 1>into the numbers. Yes, Kawhi is only helping because they

571
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>started off pretty poor on the offensive end of this season. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>what he's been on the court coming into this game.

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<v Speaker 1>They have an offensive rady of one nineteen. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>top three offense, and they're starting five has been extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>good with him next to DJ that was over I

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<v Speaker 1>think one hundred minutes best starting five in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pump the brakes a little bit. I have my concerns.

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00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm monitoring the situation. I think he's just gassed and tired.

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<v Speaker 1>He's literally been playing every other day over the last

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<v Speaker 1>nine games, and it looks like he's gassed out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the most logical answer. He's been playing more.

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<v Speaker 1>He just came back. The minutes have been going up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been playing every other day. That's likely all

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<v Speaker 1>it is, especially when you can consent. He looked really

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00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>good with more pop early on. He looked pressure his

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00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>first few games. All Right, we'll analyze it more tomorrow

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00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>on Clippers Talk. I'll be with you around noon before

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. We'll hear from Kawhi and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>other postgame sound and also my question of coach Lue

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<v Speaker 1>pregame about his his win. But before we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here, I do want to thank the Clippers organization,

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<v Speaker 1>Ralpha oul O'Brian Seaman, Noah Igo, Carlo Jimenez on the call,

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<v Speaker 1>big brother, Jake Warner, our head engineer. Here it into

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<v Speaker 1>a Dome and back in the bank, producer Daniel West

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<v Speaker 1>and Blake for doing stats and I appreciate you. I'mna Oslon.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you back here. Clippers Memphis Grizzlies from

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<v Speaker 1>into a Dome Wednesday. Yeah, we got three days off,

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<v Speaker 1>pregame of six thirty. Talk to you then.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been Clippers Talk right here on your home

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