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Speaker 1: late in the fourth as they pull away from the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz and win one thirty one ten Here at
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Speaker 1: It wasn't the most impressive victory. I do have some concerns,
Speaker 1: but it was a must win and they play their
Speaker 1: best when it was required. That's not nothing. Does this
Speaker 1: Clippers team need to improve? Yeah? Do they need three
Speaker 1: days off more than anything? Yes? I expect them to
Speaker 1: be much better. Not look this old in this slow
Speaker 1: like we've seen the last four games or so. On
Speaker 1: Wednesday against Memphis, That's what I'm looking towards tonight. They
Speaker 1: got down early thanks to the Jazz starting eat of
Speaker 1: eleven from three. Jordan Clarkson, I mean, hitting his first
Speaker 1: three threes a thirty footer. We know who he is,
Speaker 1: Clippers serial killer of the next Netflix True Crime is
Speaker 1: the way he does like he walks into a Clippers
Speaker 1: game with a heat check. Jordan Clarkson is just unbelievable
Speaker 1: against this team. Been doing it for years. Didn't play yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know he'd be fresh. Look and his chops looking
Speaker 1: at this Clippers team like they were food. This was
Speaker 1: red meat for them. It was great to start. This
Speaker 1: ballgame eventually cooled off, as did the Utah Jazz. They
Speaker 1: started eat of eleven from three. As I mentioned, they
Speaker 1: finished three for their last eighteen. Meanwhile, the Clippers saved
Speaker 1: their best for last five to five in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter from the outside when they had to have it,
Speaker 1: it was there, and I think the real turning point
Speaker 1: was the end of that third quarter where James Harden
Speaker 1: had a three in and won the big DJ lob
Speaker 1: from a mere coffee. That was big. It got them
Speaker 1: a little bit of separation, but the Jazz weren't exactly
Speaker 1: going away. They were still battling in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: And Kawhi Leonard has been struggling for the fourth straight game.
Speaker 1: Now he's also had his minutes increase happen, which has
Speaker 1: been correlating with this. So I want to say that's
Speaker 1: the connection. We don't need to make these long reaching
Speaker 1: conclusions that, oh, Kawhi is wash now, because I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anybody saying that the first nine games of the season,
Speaker 1: or he's playing just twenty minutes, then just twenty four,
Speaker 1: then twenty eight. But now he's over thirty, not just
Speaker 1: in age, he's thirty three, but over thirty minutes. He's
Speaker 1: looked gassed the last four and it compounds by the
Speaker 1: fact that they aren't getting two days off or about
Speaker 1: to get three days off. But he's played the last
Speaker 1: nine Clippers games. It's a lot for a guy first
Speaker 1: returning from injury. So I was talking with Utah Jazz
Speaker 1: radio analyst Ron Boone, former player. He thinks he just
Speaker 1: looks lethargic out there, is tired. It's only thirteen games.
Speaker 1: I was asking you know, someone who's been there and
Speaker 1: done it. That's what he thinks it is, that's what
Speaker 1: he sees out there. I don't see a hitch in
Speaker 1: his gait. I don't see a guy who's glitchy out
Speaker 1: there with his movement. It looks fluid. It just looks slower,
Speaker 1: slower than it did the first five to eight games
Speaker 1: when he first came back, really to nine games. That
Speaker 1: game where he had twenty seven against San Antonio, he
Speaker 1: looked awesome, and I said, at that point, I'm confident
Speaker 1: he can get back to the version of player he
Speaker 1: was last season. He didn't have structural damage. Guys he
Speaker 1: has swelling. There's a difference. He's still out of surgery.
Speaker 1: We don't know the details about that. But what I
Speaker 1: need to see is after three days off, Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 1: and this team in general, look fresh, look like they
Speaker 1: have pop out there, look like they can lock down
Speaker 1: anyone defensively, because the last se been games coming into
Speaker 1: this one, they've been nineteenth on that end, and teams
Speaker 1: have been shooting once't you know, thirty nine percent from
Speaker 1: three the last seven games. Tonight, Utah Jazz shoot thirty
Speaker 1: nine point five percent from three. Against the Clippers start
Speaker 1: off much hotter than that. But if you're looking for
Speaker 1: the issue and why defensively they haven't been as good,
Speaker 1: is that teams have been knocking down threes. You can
Speaker 1: say it's shooting variants, you can say it's shooting luck.
Speaker 1: The Clippers on the season, opponents are shooting around thirty
Speaker 1: four percent from the outside, top three in the league.
Speaker 1: That's been a big part of why they've been so
Speaker 1: good defensively. So if they're slippage on the defensive end,
Speaker 1: it might be because, yeah, teams are hitting threes against them. Now, Now,
Speaker 1: I've always said I think there's a cumulative effect that
Speaker 1: happens to teams playing the Clippers because their defense has
Speaker 1: been so good and physical, it takes something out of
Speaker 1: their legs. And even when guys have wide open shots,
Speaker 1: they've been missing against them. But it's possible it's just
Speaker 1: been some good fortune on their side. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're talking almost half a season of them being a
Speaker 1: top defensive team until just recently, and the one thing
Speaker 1: that stands out is opponents three point shooting. It's been
Speaker 1: much better against them. The game started that way, and
Speaker 1: the Jazz still ended up at thirty nine percent. That's
Speaker 1: something I'm watching our rotations as crisp as they are,
Speaker 1: or if they are bringing the same level of intensity
Speaker 1: to Clippers. I don't know that to be a factor
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not seeing enough closeouts, enough sound rotations,
Speaker 1: and five guys on a string. I think it's tired legs.
Speaker 1: I think it's them having that five and seven stretch
Speaker 1: and that six games, nine nights stretch after the schedule
Speaker 1: adjustment with the fires here in southern California. That has
Speaker 1: a residual effect, and I think the Clippers are dealing
Speaker 1: with that. I think Kauhai specifically has been dealing with
Speaker 1: some of this. When James Harden had to have it,
Speaker 1: he could drive, go left, get layups, get in ones,
Speaker 1: and was really good in the second half shooting wise.
Speaker 1: After starting. I want to say he started two of
Speaker 1: eleven or two of twelve in this ball game. He
Speaker 1: finished with twenty six point maybe twenty three points in
Speaker 1: a season high seventeen assists for Harden, seven of eighteen shooting.
Speaker 1: But I think there was an easier path to victory
Speaker 1: for this Clippers team. Just give it to Big Zoo
Speaker 1: and get out of the way. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's going to help him know in future games, And
Speaker 1: be honest, could win that way, but you have to
Speaker 1: vary your offense. Eventually, he had matchup advantages tonight. The
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz are down. Guys. They won twelve games this season.
Speaker 1: They're on a back to back. That's why allow those
Speaker 1: guys are out. But as easy it would be to
Speaker 1: maybe get Zoo a forty twenty game, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you learn anything. He was great. He had twenty
Speaker 1: six and fifteen on thirteen of sixteen shooting, and when
Speaker 1: they had to have it after a timeout, they'd just
Speaker 1: lob it over the defense to it beats the Zoo
Speaker 1: bots for easy buckets. Went in doubt, find big Zoo
Speaker 1: to carry us through. It's good to see, but I
Speaker 1: need to see Kawhi get it going. James Harden start
Speaker 1: faster with his offense. No warm Powell was still good tonight,
Speaker 1: twenty six points on eighteen shots, and he also put
Speaker 1: his head down and got to the basket he needed to.
Speaker 1: And Mere Coffee was great off the bench, I mean
Speaker 1: great timely threes five of eight from the outside for
Speaker 1: his seventeen points. But I know this isn't satisfying enough
Speaker 1: to Cliper Nation. They need to see it against the
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday, and then they got to go
Speaker 1: to Utah, so back to back before the All Star Break.
Speaker 1: Memphis one of the best teams in the Western Conference.
Speaker 1: Clipper's got one of their best victories this season against
Speaker 1: them without Kawhi in Memphis. They're not gonna forget about that.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking to see Kawhi with more pop out
Speaker 1: there after three days off. I need twenty plus points
Speaker 1: from him because this team goes as far as Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard takes them, and if he's not right or not
Speaker 1: the same player as he was last season, we got problems.
Speaker 1: Not pushing the panic button, I'm not sounding the alarms,
Speaker 1: I am saying, I'm monitoring the situation after the last
Speaker 1: four games. I think it's tired legs, lactic acid build up.
Speaker 1: I think it's a guy who's only played thirteen games
Speaker 1: so far this season and has been playing about every
Speaker 1: other day lately while getting his minutes extended. While his
Speaker 1: minutes have been rising, his energy, he's looked drained. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense anyone? It seems logical. Nobody was saying
Speaker 1: he was washed after the first nine games. The last
Speaker 1: fours minutes have gone up. As he's been playing more
Speaker 1: games every other day, he's looked more tired out there.
Speaker 1: He's looked slower. So I'm hoping that's it. We'll take
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Speaker 1: Clippers win one thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.
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Speaker 1: is the phone number. I know. There's stuff outside of
Speaker 1: the game. Are there some bigger picture stuff like Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard and how he's looked. And I just did a
Speaker 1: show on this the other day, In fact, I think
Speaker 1: it was yesterday. The days just string together for me
Speaker 1: right now, because we are one hundred and twenty six
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Speaker 1: every day, regardless if there was an actual Clippers game
Speaker 1: or not. We haven't stopped. October fourth was the last
Speaker 1: day we have not had a show here if you're
Speaker 1: following at Clippers Talk on the YouTube side. So yesterday, yes,
Speaker 1: we had Eric Pinkason. We talked salary cap and the
Speaker 1: Clipper situation this summer and after the moves and the
Speaker 1: trades and how much money they'd have to spend on
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. It looks like that's happening. As reported by
Speaker 1: law Murray, Ben Simmons looks to be a Clipper, maybe
Speaker 1: as soon as Monday and he clears waivers. But I've
Speaker 1: been monitoring Kawhi. I've been monitoring Kawhi Leonard the last
Speaker 1: three games heading into this one, so it's been four
Speaker 1: games of his thirteen so far that I've been like, hmm,
Speaker 1: is he tired or does he not have it. Is
Speaker 1: he not stepping on the gas and pushing things as
Speaker 1: much as he could, or is he stepping on the
Speaker 1: gas and there's just nothing left in the tank. I
Speaker 1: think what we're seeing right now is a guy who
Speaker 1: has played more minutes since the most minutes he's played
Speaker 1: since what March, since the knee swelling started, and this
Speaker 1: is a part of the ramp up process as he
Speaker 1: has to get his wind now that well. Tonight, for instance,
Speaker 1: I think he was at thirty two minutes thirty one
Speaker 1: and a little bit of change. Last game he was
Speaker 1: almost at thirty four. I think is the games have
Speaker 1: been more consistent and his minutes have fluctuated. It's hurt
Speaker 1: his wind and his body has to to it. And
Speaker 1: that's all we're seeing, but it's worth monitoring. He's had
Speaker 1: ten turnovers over the last two games. That is very
Speaker 1: unlike Kawhi. Leonard and I chronicled every play from this
Speaker 1: game tonight in my notes, every Kawhi play, whether it
Speaker 1: was a make or a miss, and tomorrow I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go through that because pregame, I'm gonna play some sound
Speaker 1: for you tomorrow here on Clippers Talk, as I tease
Speaker 1: this out because I asked coach Lou Pregame about how
Speaker 1: he's viewing Kawhi right now, if he looks a little
Speaker 1: bit tired and if he's progressing at the rate he
Speaker 1: was expecting. I'll bring that answer to you tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: it is a subplot to everything going on right now,
Speaker 1: because ultimately, if Kawhi isn't the same, yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: a competitor in the Western Conference. He's their best player.
Speaker 1: Need him to be Kawhi Leonard. They need the same
Speaker 1: version of Kawhi they had last season when he had
Speaker 1: the most efficient, most impressive stretch of his career where
Speaker 1: for two months he shot fifty seven fifty one to
Speaker 1: ninety two splits. Shooting splits. That's that's the Kauhi. You
Speaker 1: have to have to be a top five player to
Speaker 1: contend in the Western Conference, and they haven't had anything
Speaker 1: close to that yet, but especially the last four games
Speaker 1: as the minutes have gone up. Where you look at
Speaker 1: it tonight, just ten points, ten points and thirty one
Speaker 1: minutes on four of nine shooting, I think the more
Speaker 1: alarming numbers he only got up nine shots. There were
Speaker 1: times he was not even looking for the basketball in
Speaker 1: the third quarter early on now they were for each
Speaker 1: beats zoubots. But I don't know if he touched the
Speaker 1: basketball the first four minutes of the third quarter coming
Speaker 1: out of the half, and he wasn't asking for it
Speaker 1: after he just got rest, and he still looked tired
Speaker 1: out there. The way he is running around ragged defensively
Speaker 1: at times, I hope people have taken note of him being,
Speaker 1: you know, out of position. I've seen it too. I've
Speaker 1: also seen him make up for others mistakes, and so
Speaker 1: it looks like, oh, that's on Kauahi when it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you nine shots in thirty one minutes,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna have to get up to nineteen shots
Speaker 1: consistently to be the number one in your go to
Speaker 1: guy again on a team that is competing in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference. Last game out against Indiana on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: he took sixteen shots. He only made seven of them.
Speaker 1: He was three or six from the outs. He had
Speaker 1: nineteen points, but five turnovers just like tonight, and sloppy turnovers,
Speaker 1: spinning into a double team having it ripped he did.
Speaker 1: I think the very next possession down on the second half,
Speaker 1: I think that was in the fourth quarter, spun into
Speaker 1: the double team and then kicked it out to a
Speaker 1: mirror for a far side of corner three. But I
Speaker 1: am I'm watching every possession with Kawhi right now because
Speaker 1: here's the problem. It would be one thing if he
Speaker 1: was in a rut after he had already dropped a
Speaker 1: couple thirty point games, and we said, Okay, he's back,
Speaker 1: he's good, We're secure with it. He's the same Kauhi,
Speaker 1: and now he's just going through a shooting slump, whatever
Speaker 1: it happens. But he hasn't got all the way there yet.
Speaker 1: He hasn't really stepped on the gas. He's had twenty
Speaker 1: seven points, and he looked really good against Antonio. In
Speaker 1: his first nine games, I think everybody was satisfied and
Speaker 1: we're saying, damn, he's ahead of his asual of anything.
Speaker 1: And now the last four where he hasn't looked great
Speaker 1: and he is shooting just thirty eight percent from the field.
Speaker 1: I believe he is shooting thirty eight percent from three
Speaker 1: over that time, but he's only getting fifteen points per
Speaker 1: game and the minutes are around twenty eight. But he
Speaker 1: played twenty seven minutes against Toronto twenty two against the
Speaker 1: Lakers in that blowout, thirty three against Indiana, thirty one
Speaker 1: a night against Utah. There is a direct correlation between
Speaker 1: his minutes going up and him looking more tired. There's
Speaker 1: a direct correlation between more games being played by Kawhi
Speaker 1: almost every other day. He's played their last nine games.
Speaker 1: I believe Carlo Amen has said so. He plays the
Speaker 1: game against Washington on January twenty third, he plays the
Speaker 1: game January twenty fifth against Milwaukee, January twenty seventh against Phoenix,
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth against San Antonio, the thirty first against Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and now the second of February, the fourth, the sixth,
Speaker 1: the eighth. He's been playing every other day, literally every
Speaker 1: other day, for the last nine games. Couldn't it be
Speaker 1: as simple as that, while the minutes have been going up,
Speaker 1: he's been playing every other day. Couldn't that account for
Speaker 1: why he looks tired out there? Do we have to say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's washed now after we all said, man, he looks
Speaker 1: prett damn good, he looks great. I'm not willing to
Speaker 1: make any leaps to the W word, the wash. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it yet, because I've seen this
Speaker 1: too many times with Kawhi where he starts the season
Speaker 1: slowly and then flips the switch. Everyone was thinking he
Speaker 1: was washed last season at the beginning, they were I
Speaker 1: pulled the tweets. You know, I got their seats here.
Speaker 1: I put it up at follow out of May. You
Speaker 1: can check it. I just did this the other day
Speaker 1: the show that Look, there is going to be a
Speaker 1: time whereas Kawhi gets older and he comes back from
Speaker 1: these injuries and he's not gonna look the same there.
Speaker 1: That is going to happen at some point, happens to everybody.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen to Kawhi, Lebron James at some point
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be the same. Is it happening right now
Speaker 1: at thirty three, coming off an injury where there was
Speaker 1: no structural damage. I'm not gonna say that yet because
Speaker 1: we just have a body of work from less than
Speaker 1: a year ago of him looking fantastic. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do it. But if you're wondering why I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Kawai so much in a game the Clippers won by twenty,
Speaker 1: it's because he isn't look good the last four games
Speaker 1: and for them to get to where they want to
Speaker 1: get to he's got to be himself. He's got to
Speaker 1: be a star, he's got to be an All NBA player.
Speaker 1: So there's bigger things to me in a twenty point
Speaker 1: victory then them winning one thirty to one ten over
Speaker 1: the Jazz. I'm watching, Kawhi. I always am Angels in
Speaker 1: the outfield. We're always watching. We'll take a quick time out.
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Speaker 1: Clippers win won thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot about Kawhi because he hasn't looked
Speaker 1: great over the last four games, even in a Clippers
Speaker 1: twenty point victory where they didn't look great throughout most
Speaker 1: of it but got hot from three in the fourth
Speaker 1: and pulled away eight six six ninety seven two five seventy.
Speaker 1: There's a guy Toby in the chat and he just
Speaker 1: wants to talk about Kawhi, and I talk about him
Speaker 1: all the time too. I just did a show where
Speaker 1: I went through his game logs from past times coming
Speaker 1: back from injuries. Was looking at minutes how long it
Speaker 1: takes him to ramp up. Last year he had a
Speaker 1: training camp and he looked slow coming out of the
Speaker 1: gates in the regular season, and then in his hit
Speaker 1: his second win, hit the NOSS and Kawhi took over
Speaker 1: and was the best version of himself offensively ever in
Speaker 1: the regular season he was I'm thinking this is a
Speaker 1: wind issue. I'm not discounting the fact that swelling in
Speaker 1: your knee isn't bad. I am saying that connected with
Speaker 1: structural damage would be way, way worse. To this guy
Speaker 1: Toby in the chat, Kawhi's gotta put together a string
Speaker 1: of twenty five point games where he looks uber efficient
Speaker 1: and can't miss in the mid range. At first, it
Speaker 1: looked like that his first few games back, he was
Speaker 1: moving really well and everything just looked automatic. That first
Speaker 1: game against the Lakers, for instance, J. J. Reddick came
Speaker 1: out afterwards and said, Kawhi just doesn't miss, Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you do. He gets to a spot
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't miss. And he was talking about
Speaker 1: from that game. He just wasn't even aggressive tonight, and
Speaker 1: that looked to me like a guy who was tired
Speaker 1: deferring to others and not even looking for the basketball.
Speaker 1: Early in the third quarter, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: touched the ball, like the first four minutes in their
Speaker 1: half court set the start of the second half. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Mike and La. Mike quickly, you got thirty
Speaker 1: seconds here on Clippers stock without a mass and him.
Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, it was with Kwhy I mean you do?
Speaker 3: The answer is just you know, some more time off,
Speaker 3: maybe you know, limiting his minutes back, I mean taking
Speaker 3: his minutes back.
Speaker 1: Down or or Mike, it's as simple as he has
Speaker 1: to go through this to get his win back, Like
Speaker 1: you have to go through this conditioning, and there's going
Speaker 1: to be times where you're gassed and your lethargic, and
Speaker 1: there's lactic acid build up because you haven't played basketball
Speaker 1: at a high level in a long time. And this
Speaker 1: is just what you go through because that's what it's
Speaker 1: been in the past for him. Isn't that the easiest answer? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I the three Also, by the way,
Speaker 3: I think that you know, Ben Simmons is going to
Speaker 3: be a good efficient I think he don't really help
Speaker 3: us the second unit, and you know, just having another
Speaker 3: guy who can you know, handle the ball, and it's
Speaker 3: also Paul and you know, couldn't help the three pound.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I appreciate the phone call, Mike. You guys
Speaker 1: know me. Over the last week, I've been talking about
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and I've kind of piggybacked on to what
Speaker 1: uh will Updyke said on clips and did. But him
Speaker 1: as a small ball five makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: And because they couldn't get you know, Robert Williams or
Speaker 1: some big man or Mike Williams, that trade got nixed.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get one of these guys. They got Drew Ubanks,
Speaker 1: who got hurt tonight. Unfortunately, see if we have an
Speaker 1: update on him. But they also brought in Bogee and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be available on Wednesday. It sounds like you
Speaker 1: talked with the media post game bo Don Bogdanovic. So
Speaker 1: you didn't pick up, you know, the perfect backup center
Speaker 1: or the perfect backup ball handler, but you got somebody
Speaker 1: that can do both a little bit in Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: According to reports, nothing's official, and ask the Lakers and
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets how that can go when nothing's official yet.
Speaker 1: I think he can clear waivers on Monday and then
Speaker 1: he could be a Clipper. But I really like to
Speaker 1: pick up because it gives you more options to how
Speaker 1: you can play out there, and one way coach lou
Speaker 1: loves to play as small We know that small ball
Speaker 1: of Ben Simmons at the five passing. I was talking
Speaker 1: about this earlier and Russ Stans got upset, and it's
Speaker 1: what always happens, because you can criticize anybody on this
Speaker 1: Clippers team over the last well the seven years that
Speaker 1: I've been here, I could criticize anybody, and I have.
Speaker 1: But if you criticize Russ, then it's like in a
Speaker 1: front to mankind or something, or to Russ like, they
Speaker 1: will burn it down. They will try to bully you
Speaker 1: and call you names and do everything in the book,
Speaker 1: even though I'm just being trying to be fair with
Speaker 1: analysis of how I see it, just like I will
Speaker 1: with anyone else. But you know, other guys don't have
Speaker 1: a hive. There's no a mere coffee hive. When I
Speaker 1: criticized him for how he played in the playoffs last
Speaker 1: year against Dallas, he struggled, you do against Russ, They're
Speaker 1: on you like piranhas. So I was talking about how
Speaker 1: he's different Ben Simmons than Russ, even though neither guy
Speaker 1: is a good shooter. Russ would still try to shoot
Speaker 1: and probably take shots he shouldn't. Ben Simmons just won't.
Speaker 1: If anything, he will turn down shots, which sometimes is
Speaker 1: bad if he's overpassing or being so unselfish to the
Speaker 1: point he's got a layup or a dunk or an
Speaker 1: easy look, he doesn't take it. That's not good either,
Speaker 1: But I will take that because the difference is he's
Speaker 1: the five. You can hide a non shooter playing the
Speaker 1: five much easier than you can hide a non shooter
Speaker 1: who's a guard. In Russ, there's a huge difference between
Speaker 1: those two guys. So I'm excited about it. I think
Speaker 1: coach lou if Abay can figure it out with Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons and Tim. Let's go JP and los JP. You're
Speaker 1: on clippersop with out of Mason h JP.
Speaker 4: What's up? What's up? Adam? Just so you know, I
Speaker 4: am in the coffee hives.
Speaker 1: But I spoke too soon. If you want to smack me,
Speaker 1: then that's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bad taling. I'm also in a dark place about
Speaker 4: the Clippers. It's not just about I think here analysis
Speaker 4: about QUI performances appropriate. So I think you're spot on.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But the bigger problem is that at best were like
Speaker 4: the sixth He's you know, we're the sixties. That's the
Speaker 4: best that we're going to be. We're not going to
Speaker 4: win the championship. Uh, and we would need some sort
Speaker 4: of series of miracles to do. So what we really
Speaker 4: need is for Kwie to look like he could theoretically
Speaker 4: be MDP so that we can trade him in the
Speaker 4: off season and reboot. Because we got we made a
Speaker 4: deal with the Devil. We traded SGA. Everybody wanted it
Speaker 4: except for me and uh, JP.
Speaker 1: You're telling me at that time you would not have
Speaker 1: done the SGA trade. You were the one guy said.
Speaker 4: No, okay, okay, I I'm not telling you the truth.
Speaker 4: I was happy to trade happened.
Speaker 1: You're not one hundred percent telling the truth. You were
Speaker 1: happy to trade happened.
Speaker 4: Hold On, I really worried that that he it was
Speaker 4: gonna be really good and.
Speaker 1: We all me an all star. Nobody said, hey George,
Speaker 1: I hate you hate Paul George and.
Speaker 4: And and what has happened is this is the crime.
Speaker 4: This is the true crime. I'm a Clipper fan because
Speaker 4: I hate the Lakers because of two thousand and two playoffs.
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? You hate the Lakers because of
Speaker 1: the two thousand and two Western Conference Finals where the
Speaker 1: Kings got screwed. Are we cut from the same author what?
Speaker 4: That's exactly how I became a fan. And uh it
Speaker 4: was right when I moved out here. So uh we
Speaker 4: finally had the Laker group just dominating and humiliating them,
Speaker 4: and we were like a cat and a mouse and
Speaker 4: watching them lose with so much fun, and going to
Speaker 4: Crypto and having a friend mock a family wearing matching
Speaker 4: Lebron James jerseys was so much fun.
Speaker 1: All right, quickly wrap it up for me.
Speaker 4: What're the tough times, man, So just just just help
Speaker 4: help me think of positive things as not being real
Speaker 4: sad about the comper going forward.
Speaker 1: That's all right, JP, I will try to bring up
Speaker 1: positive stuff. I don't want you to be sad about
Speaker 1: the Clippers moving forward. Clippers do win. Here's something positive.
Speaker 1: One thirty to one ten in a game where they
Speaker 1: didn't play that well against the Utah Jazz but kind
Speaker 1: of flipped the switch in the fourth quarter ended up
Speaker 1: winning by twenty. Anyways, quick time out looking for more positives.
Speaker 1: Want to hear from coach lou post game. I'm out
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Speaker 1: Clippers win won thirty to one ten over the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: I really like the way James Harden turned this game around.
Speaker 1: He wasn't playing well, the Clippers weren't overall. I think
Speaker 1: he and Norman Palell and Big Zoo. Of course, although
Speaker 1: it almost came too easy, they could have won this
Speaker 1: game much easier if they just played through each to zoobots.
Speaker 1: But I think there's Warren just winning at stake. They're
Speaker 1: trying to build a foundation offensively that they can rely
Speaker 1: on against really good teams. The Jazz are not just
Speaker 1: a bad team. They were missing a lot of their
Speaker 1: best players tonight, marking in John Collins calling Sexton. They
Speaker 1: did have a Clipper serial killer in Jordan Clarkson. He
Speaker 1: had fourteen points in the first quarter. He would eventually
Speaker 1: cool off, but at the half James Harden was two
Speaker 1: of nine. He would end up going in the second
Speaker 1: half of this ball game. This aw five of nine.
Speaker 1: You'll take it, big and ones fout on a three
Speaker 1: pointer as usual, and he had seventeen assists to five turnovers.
Speaker 1: He had some It's not that he had a bad game.
Speaker 1: I would say he had a bad scoring game early on,
Speaker 1: because the assists were there all game long. I want
Speaker 1: to say he had six assists in the opening quarter.
Speaker 1: Harden was diming out there. He had eight assists in
Speaker 1: the opening quarter. My goodness. A lot of the conversation, though,
Speaker 1: has been centered around Kawhi Leonard, how he looks so far,
Speaker 1: and yes, I'm watching. We do a player to watch
Speaker 1: the pregame show every game, and that rotates on who
Speaker 1: you choose. When tonight I had Drew Eubanks, who unfortunately
Speaker 1: got banged up after looking pretty good out there. He
Speaker 1: was two of two or four points in six minutes,
Speaker 1: but rolled n Ankel. Don't have an update to you.
Speaker 1: Don't have an update for you on that. But I'm
Speaker 1: always watching Kawhi Leonard in his movement. So he was
Speaker 1: asked postgame if he thinks about not stepping on his
Speaker 1: teammate's toes as he works his way back, because he
Speaker 1: was noticeably deferring and not even asking for the basketball
Speaker 1: coming out of the second half. He said, quote, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. No, I don't feel no way about
Speaker 1: stepping on anybody's toes. It's not like with a number
Speaker 1: one seed or something. Yeah, that's fair, because what I've
Speaker 1: been saying about Kawhi is when people say, oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make them worse, he's gonna hurt them. I've always
Speaker 1: been saying, guys, how exactly is he gonna hurt them?
Speaker 1: On offense, they're like a bottom five offense the twenty
Speaker 1: second coming into this game. But with Kawhi on the court,
Speaker 1: they have played I know some of you aren't gonna
Speaker 1: believe this because he hasn't looked great the last four games,
Speaker 1: but with Kawhi on the court coming into this game,
Speaker 1: so his first twelve games, they have an offensive rating
Speaker 1: of one nineteen that would be second best in the
Speaker 1: league to the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's basically a top three
Speaker 1: offense when he's on the court coming into this game.
Speaker 1: Now might go down a little bit, might go down
Speaker 1: to one to eighteen after this game, or one to
Speaker 1: nineteen point one or something, but they have been not
Speaker 1: just much better, like ten points better per one hundred
Speaker 1: possessions on offense with him on the court so far.
Speaker 1: They've also been better defensively, where they've had a defensive
Speaker 1: rating of one to oh six coming into this game.
Speaker 1: With Kawhi Leonard on the court, that's better than their
Speaker 1: one to eight rating, which is second on the season.
Speaker 1: So for as much as people are panicking, you look
Speaker 1: into the numbers. Yes, Kawhi is only helping because they
Speaker 1: started off pretty poor on the offensive end of this season. Again,
Speaker 1: what he's been on the court coming into this game.
Speaker 1: They have an offensive rady of one nineteen. That's the
Speaker 1: top three offense, and they're starting five has been extraordinarily
Speaker 1: good with him next to DJ that was over I
Speaker 1: think one hundred minutes best starting five in the league.
Speaker 1: Let's pump the brakes a little bit. I have my concerns.
Speaker 1: I'm monitoring the situation. I think he's just gassed and tired.
Speaker 1: He's literally been playing every other day over the last
Speaker 1: nine games, and it looks like he's gassed out there.
Speaker 1: And what's the most logical answer. He's been playing more.
Speaker 1: He just came back. The minutes have been going up,
Speaker 1: and he's been playing every other day. That's likely all
Speaker 1: it is, especially when you can consent. He looked really
Speaker 1: good with more pop early on. He looked pressure his
Speaker 1: first few games. All Right, we'll analyze it more tomorrow
Speaker 1: on Clippers Talk. I'll be with you around noon before
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We'll hear from Kawhi and we'll have
Speaker 1: other postgame sound and also my question of coach Lue
Speaker 1: pregame about his his win. But before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, I do want to thank the Clippers organization,
Speaker 1: Ralpha oul O'Brian Seaman, Noah Igo, Carlo Jimenez on the call,
Speaker 1: big brother, Jake Warner, our head engineer. Here it into
Speaker 1: a Dome and back in the bank, producer Daniel West
Speaker 1: and Blake for doing stats and I appreciate you. I'mna Oslon.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you back here. Clippers Memphis Grizzlies from
Speaker 1: into a Dome Wednesday. Yeah, we got three days off,
Speaker 1: pregame of six thirty. Talk to you then.
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