WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:04.839 My name is Will and I'm Garon, and unlike mulderin Scully. 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:05.440 We both want to believe. 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.480 So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 4 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:10.119 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and 5 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:11.000 metaphysical world. 6 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:14.320 We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even 7 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:15.800 joined a coven of witches. 8 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:18.359 And wait, you joined a coven yep. 9 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.039 All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will 10 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.559 prove that there's something beyond this physical. 11 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:24.839 Three dimensional world we all live in. 12 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:32.679 This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. This episode of The Skeptic 13 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:38.960 Metaphysicians was recorded live at the Edgar Casey AAR. Our 14 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:42.159 guest today has been a consulting astrologer and teacher for 15 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.679 over forty years. She's a graduate of Noel Till's master's course, 16 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:51.399 where she achieved highest honors. She has a thriving international 17 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.920 practice and it's frequently published in The Mountain Astrologer. 18 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.840 And if that's not enough, she's often called. 19 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:01.560 A lecture here at the AAR and a bunch of 20 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.159 other venues, including Astrology University and Kepler College. 21 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.959 Well, we're excited to welcome to the show Kathy Rose. Kathy, 22 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:10.359 thanks so much for being with us today. 23 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.519 Happy to be here and chat with you guys in 24 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:14.519 my favorite location at the are. 25 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:15.920 It's one of our favorites. 26 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:16.920 We love it here too. 27 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.719 Yeah, so let's just dive right into it. 28 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.359 For those who are uninitiated astrology, you always think of 29 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.200 you look, you pick up your newspaper and you look 30 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.040 at your horoscope, and today is going to be this 31 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:33.840 kind of day whatever. But astrology so much more than 32 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:34.920 just that, right. 33 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.519 Yeah, the astrology you get in the newspaper is actually 34 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.280 the worst kind, and I would highly recommend you run 35 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:42.439 the opposite direction. 36 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:47.000 How do you do about explain a lot, Yeah. 37 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.079 Because it's often fatalistic. It's often going to tell you 38 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.319 how your day will be. And the astrology I practice 39 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:57.280 is very different from that. I think that we obviously 40 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.640 we all have a birth chart, but your birth chart 41 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:04.040 is an imprint at the time you were born from 42 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:08.319 the planetary frequencies. But that imprint is designed to help 43 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.280 us understand what we are here to develop, what we 44 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:17.280 are here to consolidate or heal or release. 45 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:18.319 You know. 46 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:22.400 Now, I'm a proponent of reincarnation in past lives, and 47 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:26.199 so we bring with us unhealed things from other lifetimes 48 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.840 or where we need to have resolution, and the birch 49 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:33.039 chart shows that. So we're not stuck with what some 50 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.400 might feel or limiting patterns in the birth chart. We're 51 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.840 here actually to resolve those and make those grow. So 52 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.479 and one other thing. I don't think planets do things. 53 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.439 I think people do things. So if you read something 54 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.759 like today is going to be a very difficult day 55 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:54.680 because of this planetary configuration, I advise people get into 56 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:58.280 their Maverick spirit, let it go and take charge and 57 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.879 create the day you want. Don't the planets are going 58 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.560 to make your day a certain way. Makes sense? 59 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.639 Yes, So it's not like a predetermined like if you're 60 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.199 a cancer, this is how you're going to be here. 61 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:09.800 So I like that we have a little bit more 62 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.319 wiggle room just before I'm going to interrupt you, or 63 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:14.800 actually I'm going to stop it from interrupting me. 64 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.199 One more question about the charts. 65 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:19.800 I've heard people say how I'm getting my chart done. 66 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.080 In my head, I imagine like all these pages of 67 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.919 all this stuff, what is it just really simply what 68 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.280 does a birth chart or an astrological chart look like? 69 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.560 It can be one page, So we take the time, 70 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:37.680 date and place of birth. Now the computer calculates the 71 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.159 positions of the planets. But I have silver hair, you know, 72 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.639 I started doing this before we have the computer programs 73 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:46.560 that would do that, and I would have to do 74 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.000 all the math myself, which would take hours and hours. 75 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:49.400 Wow. 76 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.400 But it's one page. It's a wheel with the planets 77 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:56.120 on it that are showing you that imprint from the 78 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.879 planets at the day of birth. But you know, when 79 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.840 you do an astrological consultation, I don't do readings. I 80 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:07.439 do consultations. And there's a difference. Oh, then I will 81 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.280 have three pages of information in front of me from 82 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.479 which I am interpreting and helping the client. 83 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.439 Such a key distinction. 84 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.360 You're not a reader, You're a consultant. 85 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.000 That is absolutely. 86 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.879 Key because I think in this day and age of 87 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.439 dime store magicians everywhere, right that the word reading is 88 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.160 always like, oh, I'm going to get psychic reading with 89 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:33.720 strologies really means in this space we feel it's a science. Right, 90 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.680 So there is like you mentioned, doing maths for hours 91 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.680 on end, there is a science to this. So consultation 92 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.160 and bringing it back to what you said earlier, where 93 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:47.120 it's a lot more than just your personality profile. It's 94 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.920 also a way to dive into your challenges and your 95 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.519 conflicts and what you need to look at to improve 96 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:00.160 yourself and having a consultation to help you guide through that. 97 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:01.959 That's a huge distinction. So I'm glad that you brought 98 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:02.279 that up. 99 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.519 Yeah, it is a huge distinction, because a consultation is 100 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:09.879 a conversation, right, we get to interact and it's a 101 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.680 jam session. Also, I like to say that every consultation 102 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.240 I do is a jam session because you cannot look 103 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.199 at a horoscope and know how a person is living 104 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.959 that chart. And if anybody tells you so, like they 105 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:27.000 look at your chart and say you will never have 106 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:31.240 children or you are this way, they are doing you 107 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.319 a big disservice because we don't know how you are 108 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:37.319 living those energies. Two people could have the same chart 109 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:41.639 and live them on opposite ends of the spectrum, and 110 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.319 that's a profound thought, right, it get to decide, and 111 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.399 you know, two people may have the same chart, but 112 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:49.519 they're not the same souls. They don't have the same 113 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:53.879 soul history, and they have free will as to how 114 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:55.040 they express. 115 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:58.079 It, and that kind of explains a lot when people say, well, 116 00:05:58.079 --> 00:05:59.920 we have to say birthdays, How are we completely different? 117 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.680 So there's a lot more to it than just your planetary. 118 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.160 Profile, I guess, lack of a better word. 119 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.240 Yeah, well, but it does seem like there is a 120 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:12.920 lot to the planetary profile. And I've heard of like 121 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.720 your sun sign, and I know there's different types of signs, 122 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.279 but I am not well versed in astrology at all, 123 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.800 So what is this? Is there a moon sign, and 124 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.120 if so, how is that different than the sun sign? Like, 125 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:24.519 can you explain that a little bit? 126 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.160 Yeah? In this is why you want to steer away 127 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.759 from the sun signed forecasts in the newspaper, because they're 128 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:37.519 only taking one little, tiny part. There are ten planets 129 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.079 that we consider, and we consider the Moon a planet, 130 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.240 even though it's not a planet. We know that, but 131 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:46.120 we call it that. And each one of the planets 132 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:51.519 has a specific need profile. So your mercury in your chart, 133 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.199 for example, the sign in which you find mercury suggests 134 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.920 how you need to communicate, how you need to think, 135 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:01.240 how you need to process information. Venus will show how 136 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.720 you need to connect with people, how you need to 137 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:09.000 be social. So the sign describes those needs Mars shows 138 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:13.399 how you need to take action, what motivates you. So 139 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.680 I'm looking at the need profile of the person. In fact, 140 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.680 recently I gave a big webinar through Astrology University one 141 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.560 of the venues where I teach advanced astrology, and the 142 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:30.240 topic was mindfully interpreting children's charts. And I do a 143 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.000 lot of children's charts. But I think it would be 144 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:35.800 a horrible thing if you had a consultation from an 145 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:40.920 astrologer to help you understand your children, and that astrologer 146 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:46.560 told you exactly only the personality of the child, Because 147 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.720 what you really want is that comparison, what is your 148 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.560 need profile as a parent, and how is it alike 149 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.560 or different from the need profile of your child, Because 150 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:58.839 what you want to do is a parent, is to 151 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.600 understand that child so that you can raise them and adjust, 152 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.399 you know, to what their need profile is. For example, 153 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:11.120 if you have a very very macho, assertive father who 154 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.519 is sports oriented, you know, and and is competitive, and 155 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.480 maybe that father has a son who is very gentle, 156 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:25.560 who isn't competitive, who may not speak up it assertively 157 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:29.000 in the same way, maybe artistic, may be spiritual, maybe musical, 158 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:32.360 who knows, you know, the father has to understand the 159 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:36.559 need profile of the son. And that's just one example. 160 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.000 Yeah, so it's great because then those types of consultations 161 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:44.039 you get a takeaway. It's not just here's what your 162 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.039 personality is. Well, I already knew that, so it's just confirmation. 163 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.360 So this way you're able to have a takeaway as 164 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.159 a parent so that you can now help raise your 165 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:53.279 child in the right way. 166 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.480 That's a we're going to talk sounds like a roadmap 167 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:00.559 sort of sort of. I mean, would you say the roadmap. 168 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.159 It's a life purpose. It helps to understand life purpose. Okay, 169 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.240 and life purpose is not your life purpose is to 170 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.600 start a school. Your life purpose is to be a doctor. 171 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:16.279 Life purpose is what are you here to heal, resolve, 172 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:22.279 or learn, you know, as a soul, So it's more inward. 173 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.799 If your life purpose is to learn you are indeed 174 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.960 lovable and you don't need to earn love. You don't 175 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:34.960 need to please people in order to feel lovable. That's 176 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.159 a valid life purpose and that shows up in the chart. 177 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.039 People who have been told you're only going to get 178 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.919 love if you act a certain way, You're only going 179 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.159 to get love if you do me a favor You're 180 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.559 only going to get approval if you buy me a gift. 181 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.559 You know, then there can be a very deep life 182 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:55.159 purpose issue of learning I'm inherently lovable. I deserve love 183 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.360 simply because I am breathing, And that could be very 184 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.519 much part of the life purpose for or a soul 185 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:04.519 who has certain signatures to learn that, and that may 186 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:09.240 be coming from other lifetimes or early childhood issues where 187 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:14.840 love was contingent on or dependent on certain behaviors, you know. 188 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.039 So we're looking at it differently because I'm a humanistic, 189 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:26.279 therapeutic modern astrologer, not a fatalistic, rigid approach, which is 190 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:27.039 all around us. 191 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:30.200 Actually, oh yeah, so you get you get your chart 192 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:35.759 and you have all of these different takeaways on different 193 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.320 traits that you have. I'm thinking, like, just I cook 194 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.879 a lot, and so it brings to mind a recipe. 195 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.240 So you have the recipe, and depending on how you 196 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.399 interpret the recipe, you know, you might use more sugar 197 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.080 than that guy. So you can have the same recipe, 198 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.600 but depending on what you do your work, you can 199 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:51.720 have totally different flavors. 200 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.919 Case in point, she follows a recipe, I follow the 201 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:55.639 same recipe and it's a completely different. 202 00:10:55.440 --> 00:11:00.519 Dishes is a guideline, and that's why one of those 203 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.600 intuitive cooks where you know, and that's how I approach astrology. 204 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.759 So rather than following rigid rules, and I'm throwing things 205 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.399 in and modifying it. And again, would you like for 206 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:17.320 someone to tell you your personality? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 207 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.200 I tend to rebel against that and say, I get 208 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.320 to choose my personality. You can tell me my need profiles, 209 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.919 you can tell me my you know, the potential life 210 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:30.240 purpose issues, but don't lock me in, don't categorize me 211 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.759 or pigeonhole me. And that's what a lot of astrology 212 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.639 used unwisely will do. Will pigeonhole you. 213 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.960 And that makes so much sense because our daughter, I 214 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:42.080 don't think she is like her. 215 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.720 She's Scorpio sun science scorpio. 216 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.120 Sun sign Scorpio right, So that's you know, from my 217 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:50.200 understand I don't, like I said, I'm not well versed 218 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:55.000 in astrology, but a very kind of hard personality can 219 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:58.679 be vengeful, fiteful, and she's not like that. She's a 220 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.399 gentle soul, beautiful. 221 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:02.799 Now as a lifelong Gemini. 222 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:04.600 Though I do like it when people tell me in 223 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.240 my personality because I haven't figured it out yet, so 224 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.480 it's always nice to know, uh. 225 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:11.039 What it is every day I suppose I take every day. 226 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:14.200 Yes, let's go back to address what you said about Scorpio. 227 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:20.679 I think it's a shame that what often happens is 228 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.399 you hear about the shadow side. So if you think 229 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.360 about the spectrum of expression and that you can tip 230 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:31.080 it positively to the highest version of that energy, or 231 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.320 you can express the shadow and we get a face 232 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.440 all of those and we do have choice. Yeah, the 233 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.799 shadow side of Scorpio can be vengeful, can be grudge holding, 234 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:44.080 can be intense, can be secretive. But the positive side 235 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.440 of Scorpio, which is my sign, so I'm going to 236 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:51.159 defend it, yes, can be profound and a secret of 237 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.279 mysteries can be Somebody who needs a mission to accomplish, 238 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.639 can be somebody who needs to point passionate emotional energy 239 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:02.840 in a certain direction. Can be phenomenally loyal. But Scorpio 240 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:08.159 needs a mission to accomplish, needs to have focused and 241 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.600 there are all kinds of other layers that need to 242 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:12.279 happen there too. 243 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.039 I like that. I mean, that's that's just how she is. 244 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:17.559 You tell her to do something, you and she'll get 245 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.120 it done. But if you don't give her that mission, 246 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:20.960 she's all over the place. 247 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:25.440 But back to Kathy's point, where now knowing that now 248 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.559 we can help her because then we can always give 249 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.399 her a mission to accomplish it in order to move 250 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:30.120 forward in her life. 251 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.639 And that's a wonderful tool to have. 252 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.559 And they'll keep us from getting frustrated when she doesn't 253 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.200 just automatically do things that we would expect her to do. 254 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.679 Right. Yeah, But as a Scorpio, it's a fixed sign. 255 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:42.200 So when I teach beginning astrology, which I will be 256 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.279 doing at the AAR in September, we're going to be 257 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.919 teaching that beginning Astrology course, I'm going to be talking 258 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:54.039 about the fact that the fixed signs, which are Taurus, Leo, 259 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.480 Scorpio Aquarius, have as part of their life purpose the 260 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:02.320 need to learn how to re lease control because fixed signs. Now, 261 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.080 I don't know for your daughter how many planets she 262 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.720 has in that particular modality. You know, she may have 263 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.440 a son in Scorpio and then the rest of her 264 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.919 planets are in a completely different modality. But if you 265 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.000 have a horoscope that has a lot of planets in 266 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:19.399 the fixed modality. One of the life purpose issues is 267 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:24.639 to learn the correct use of will, because will can 268 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:26.440 be focused in a way where you are trying to 269 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.759 force things to happen, make things happen, where you're rigidly 270 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:34.720 attached to outcomes, where you're afraid if you don't have control, 271 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.799 and the fixed signs like your Scorpio daughter, part of 272 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:42.080 her mission is to learn use the focus, but then 273 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.799 release and surrender and let it flow. Not be so 274 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.200 attached that you are forcing or making things happen. 275 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.759 Right, I think we need to talk offline because I 276 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:54.840 think we need a consultation. 277 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:55.799 I think we do. 278 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:59.519 I mean just that alone. It helps me. 279 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:03.039 Anyway, really put a lot of things into perspectives, things 280 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:06.720 I've noticed in our daughter and how to move that forward. 281 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.960 That's it's been incredibly helpful. And I don't even know 282 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.080 how many planets she has in Scorpio. 283 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:13.440 This sounds very complicated. 284 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.159 It is very comple is but see when I do 285 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.039 a consultation, I don't use jargon. So you know, if 286 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.960 you don't know anything about astrology and you get a 287 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.519 consult or a reading where somebody is saying planet sign 288 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.279 house aspect, planet sign house aspect, your moon is in Taurres, 289 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.519 your son is in Scorpio. You have these square to 290 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.720 this planet, your that planet. You're just going to zone 291 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:37.159 out and go, what the heck this? 292 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.039 I use different thing in different terms, but yes that's correct. 293 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.039 Yes, so I don't use jargon in a consultation or 294 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:48.279 maybe just a tiny bit, but the need of a Gemini. 295 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.559 Gemini is much more flexible again depending on the whole chart, 296 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:59.080 much more mutable, much more changeable. And Scorpio the fixed sign. 297 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:04.120 You have to approach change more carefully. If somebody forces 298 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.039 change on me before I'm ready, I'm going to push back. 299 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.840 But a Gemini is like change, Okay, good, Yes, I 300 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:12.799 do love change. 301 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:13.200 You do. 302 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.279 So I'm cancer, So how does cancer feel about change? 303 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:16.799 Oh? 304 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:17.639 Oh I got a face. 305 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.559 No, I'm trouble cancer in a Gemini. And again this 306 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.200 is why you can't go only on sun sign. You 307 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:26.799 have to look at the end. You have to what 308 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.240 I'm doing when I'm doing a consultation is I'm synthesizing 309 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:35.720 hundreds of bits of data into statements. So you're putting 310 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:40.279 it all together magically, which is it's an art form really, 311 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:45.039 but cancer cancer is a water sign and it's a 312 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.039 cardinal modality. So there's a lot of restlessness and movement. 313 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:53.000 But cancer needs to nurture, needs to care. Cancer is 314 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.039 coming from an emotional place like scorpios coming from an 315 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.480 emotional base. Gemini is coming from an air sign, which 316 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:06.039 is intellectual information oriented. Let's talk it through, let's think 317 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.519 about it, let's gather more information. You know. So cancer 318 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:15.880 is oriented to wanting emotional security. 319 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:17.960 So yeah, nailed it. 320 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:22.440 So you said in your consultations you don't use a 321 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.240 lot of jargon, but there is a term that I 322 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.240 have been hearing a lot lately and it inspires fear 323 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.039 that I don't know why. 324 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.240 In fact, we're about to here shortly, right. 325 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:32.559 Yes, mercury retrograde. 326 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.759 What does that mean? I have? 327 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.799 Okay, as soon as we had social media and we 328 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.359 had free marketing for astrologers. See I started my practice 329 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.839 back in nineteen eighty three, when the only marketing I 330 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.680 had was word of mouth or collect the addresses, send 331 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:55.480 out a newsletter by snail mail. Yeah, but then social 332 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:59.079 media came along and tappity tappity tap, You're able to 333 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.720 post whatever you want post and share it and have 334 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:07.680 free marketing. And what happened astrologers sees a marketing moment 335 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:13.359 to scare people to create fear, which sells. Mercury retrograde 336 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.880 is a cycle that happens four times a year for 337 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.079 three weeks at a time. Okay, so mercury looks like 338 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.200 it's going backward by degree and sign, it's not really, 339 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:28.119 it's the it's how it looks from Earth's perspective. But 340 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:32.880 the bottom line, you will read all over the place 341 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.640 on social media, mercury retrograde means there will be delays, 342 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:41.599 there will be problems with technology. You can just expect it. 343 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:44.920 And I've been on a campaign for the last twenty 344 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.960 years to try to correct that. So I have a 345 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.319 meme I put out that says my advice for mercury retrograde. 346 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:58.119 Release your fear of mercury retrograde. It's a very productive cycle. 347 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.440 It just makes information. It's a little bit more internalized 348 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:06.119 during mercury retrograde. It's a time to check your data. 349 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:12.119 It's a time to negotiate, organize, get things clear. It 350 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:16.519 is nothing to be afraid of unless you believe it. 351 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:20.680 So this is where the self fulfilling prophecy comes in. 352 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.359 If you have been trained to believe mercury retrograde means 353 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.240 your computer is going to break. If you've been trained 354 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:30.359 to believe mercury retrograde means if you're taking a flight, 355 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.119 your flight will be delayed. It probably will because you 356 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:39.119 will get to be right. Because self fulfilling prophecy is 357 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.319 be mindful what you tell yourself because you get to 358 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:46.160 be right. I believe mercury retrograde is wonderful. You do 359 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.799 have to learn to be flexible during a retrograde mercury. 360 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:54.759 If you're traveling during retrograde mercury, I say, pack your flexibility, 361 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.160 take it along with you on the trip, and just 362 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.839 flow because things always work out. So I'd like to 363 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.839 correct that your very reaction what you have been programmed 364 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.640 to believe on mercury retrograde. But guess what, it's a 365 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.240 marketing moment. It works. 366 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.359 Because everybody says that. I mean even me. I'm like, oh, 367 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:17.400 it's bad. I don't know what it is. 368 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.200 You have told your subconscious it's going to be bad, 369 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.680 and your subconscious goes, Okay, you get to be right about. 370 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:26.200 That, right right. 371 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.799 But not to downplay there are it does have every 372 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.519 every phase does have some effect on someone. It's just 373 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.519 how you decide to to react to it. Like, for example, 374 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.839 for me, I've noticed over time that during Murcury retrograde, 375 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.359 I have a more difficult time expressing my thoughts in 376 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:47.480 a coherent way. 377 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:51.759 I turned into a blithering idiot. So during those times. 378 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.559 During Mercury retrograde, I know, okay, I'm not going to 379 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.880 get into any debates. I'm not going to get into 380 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.960 any intellectual conversations where I need to show my strengths, 381 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:01.680 which is my. 382 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:04.960 Mental capacities. 383 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:08.160 I'm just gonna take a break and just allow this 384 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.319 energies to pass through, and then once Mercury leads a 385 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.680 retrogate phase, I can go back to my fierce debating 386 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:16.839 skills and things like that. 387 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.440 Right now, is that mental as well? Or is that 388 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.079 does it actually have an effect? 389 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:24.599 Okay, so three things I hope I can remember all 390 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.039 three that I want to comment about. This number one, 391 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.200 when we receive a cycle like this, we are receiving 392 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:35.960 the frequencies from the planets. So yes, you know, during 393 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:39.039 a Mercury retrograde or a specific transit that might be 394 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:42.640 happening in your chart, you're actually receiving the frequencies of 395 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:47.039 that planet with Mercury's communication, energy and data and all that. 396 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:51.160 And as a Gemini, your ruling planet is mercury. So yeah, 397 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:55.759 it could be that you react or respond powerfully to 398 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.599 mercury retrogrades. However, I would issue you a challenge. Okay, 399 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.920 are you reacting that way because you've been told mercury 400 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.519 retrograde's coming up and you've experienced it in the past, 401 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:09.759