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Speaker 2: Eric.
Speaker 1: The first series of The Saint ran for a single
year and was off the air from the summer of
nineteen forty eight until nineteen forty nine, when it returned,
but this time over the Mutual Broadcasting System as a
national program. Today's episode originally aired Jula thirty first, nineteen
forty nine. It was the fourth episode aired over Mutual
and the title is The Saint Goes Underground.
Speaker 3: The Adventures of the Saint starring Vincent Price. The Saint
based on characters created by Leslie chargerbers unknown to millions
from books, magazines, and motion pictures. The Robinhood of Modern
Crime is now transcribed for radio, starring Hollywood's brilliant and
talented actor Vincent Price as.
Speaker 4: Anything wrong, Captain, nothing serious, mister Templar, just coming down
here for a check.
Speaker 5: Go on just as soon as we can.
Speaker 2: Oh and uh, where is here?
Speaker 4: Headstone, New Mexico used to be a big silver mining town,
but not just another little town, I guess, although I
did notice there's a carnival playing over on the edge
of this emergency landing strip.
Speaker 2: Well, how long are we to enjoy the hospitality of Headstone?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Two or three hours? Long enough to see the town
have dinner if you like. Sorry to delay you, sir.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all right, Captain. I'm seldom bored in a
strange town.
Speaker 4: Well, you better go back and fasten your seat belt.
Speaker 5: Mitter templar.
Speaker 2: We're coming down now, right, I'll see you later. Well,
good evening, Saint. Yet I don't seem to record your face.
Speaker 7: Harry Kelly, and you don't recall my face because we've
never met. But I've seen many pictures of you, and
so I recognize your meeting.
Speaker 2: Well that's very flattering. Tell me, mister Kelly, how can
I get into town?
Speaker 7: You can find a cab on the other side of
the carnife planning on staying long, Not at all should I.
On the contrary, I was just going to suggest that
I doubt if Heedstone would welcome.
Speaker 2: The presence of the saint.
Speaker 7: Just a friendly remark, you understand.
Speaker 2: Oh naturally, And if I may be permitted, a friendly question.
Why are you telling me this?
Speaker 7: Just an interest in the continued health of my fellow humans.
If you have any trouble in town, look me up.
Anyone can tell you where to find.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 8: Chow is just about to start. See little Fatima, the
girl who shakes and shivers like a bowl pull of jelly.
Only one dime ten cents. The tenth part of a dollar.
Speaker 2: Hurry, hurry the stars for you.
Speaker 9: I read the past, the present, and the future. Learn
your fortune, young man, I already know it, Grandmother, I'm
destined to meet a tall, dark and beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: I'll settle for nothing.
Speaker 9: Less I see strange lines on your face. Young man,
I will tell your fortune without charge.
Speaker 10: Give me your hand. I see danger. Beware of a
blonde young woman. She will bring you.
Speaker 2: Death, the worse ways of dying.
Speaker 9: Grandmother, I see danger, much danger for one with a
halo about his head, blood and death unless he travels.
Speaker 10: I see I.
Speaker 2: Bek I'm beginning to get the idea. You might tell
your crystal ball that I'm beginning to be interested. Goodbye, grandmother,
and may the saints bless you. Taxi mister, oh thank you? Say?
Do you suppose you can drive me somewhere that serves
a good dinner? Sure?
Speaker 11: Silver Dollar Hotel?
Speaker 6: Oh you know, I was just sitting there a communing
with nature about how many guys there are who blow
their want to watch some dame do a holder or
won't spend a dime on a hack?
Speaker 2: Do I detect a touch of Brooklyn? How could you miss?
That's me?
Speaker 6: Chu'm ziggy from flat Push. I used to drive a
hack in Brooklyn. Now I own the only hack in Headstone.
It's like, you know, I ain't seen a Brooklyn bridge
for ten years since I come out here for my health.
Like I always say, it's a smart man who knows
when it's healthy to get out of town.
Speaker 11: Meaning what does everything have to mean?
Speaker 3: Something?
Speaker 2: May I mind my own business? I stay healthy.
Speaker 8: That's why I'm living in Headstone instead.
Speaker 2: Of underwe I see. But if you didn't mind your
own business, I suppose you'd give me some advice about
leaving Headstone. Is that it? No? No advice man.
Speaker 6: That's part of minding my own busin Headstone is a
great place for strangers to.
Speaker 11: Visit if they paid up their insurance.
Speaker 2: Here you are, waiter, very nice dinner, my check please? No, no, no,
thank you keep the change.
Speaker 10: Hello.
Speaker 2: Well, well this is a surprising hotel. First a beautiful
dinner and then an even more beautiful blonde.
Speaker 10: May I sit down?
Speaker 2: By all means?
Speaker 1: Miss Verty?
Speaker 10: Calmly, you're Simon template.
Speaker 2: M I should have worn my dark glasses. But now
that the truth is out, you might as well call
me Simon. All right, Simon, Now, how did you know
who I am. Now, don't tell me that you were
just passing and recognized me.
Speaker 10: Woy. Ziggy told me that you were here. He owns
and drives the taxi here in Headstone.
Speaker 2: I know I shouldn't look a gift blonde in the hair,
But why did Ziggy take I was in here?
Speaker 10: Well, Ziggy knows that I need help, and he thought
that is, since you're the saint, you might help me.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: I have been known to help beautiful blonds on occasion.
But tell me why you should need help, Betty.
Speaker 10: Someone's been trying to kill me.
Speaker 2: Oh, there should be a law against that. Are you sure?
Speaker 10: I've been shot at twice and everybody here has been
very unfriendly except Ziggy and a man named Harry Kelly.
Speaker 2: I've noticed the unfriendliness in this town, but being unfriendly
towards you is obviously an indication of insanity.
Speaker 10: Please don't joke about it.
Speaker 2: I'm frightened all right now tell me about it.
Speaker 10: Well, my father was known as silver Slim Conley. He
lived here for years, but he sent me east to
school when I was very young, and I didn't come
back here until recently. My father died about a month ago.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: He was broke and all he left me was his
old silver mine. He called it the Betty mine after me, and.
Speaker 2: I take it. Somebody wants the mine.
Speaker 10: No, no, the mine is completely worthless. There hasn't been
any silver in it for years.
Speaker 2: But my dear, you were shot at twice. Have you
any idea who did the shooting?
Speaker 10: No, but it might be the same man who told
me to get out of town. Oh, Mike McCarthy. Ziggy
says he's an Eastern gangster who has been living out
here for several months. Will you help me, mister Simon, Well.
Speaker 2: I've never been able to say no to a pretty girl.
You mentioned a man named Harry Kelly before. Just who
is he?
Speaker 10: He knew my father. He's been very friendly to me,
although he thought I ought to leave town too.
Speaker 2: I've met mister Kelly and he intrigues me very much.
I think we'll go see all right.
Speaker 10: Oh just a minute, there was some red dust on
your coat.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. ZIGGI apparently doesn't get enough passengers to
keep his cab dusted. Did you say Ziggy was parked
outside in his chain?
Speaker 10: He was when I came in.
Speaker 2: Oh, there he is, Yes, looking exactly as if he
were back in Brooklyn. Ziggy, Oh, so she fun thanks
to your bird dogging, which I must admit in this
case has done much to overcome any natural prejudice against
cab divers that I might have. Say, do you know
where Harry Kelly lives? Sure? And let's go there. Hey,
don't you ever clean out this? Heck? What's all this dust?
Speaker 8: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Maybe it was that redhead that hired me yesterday? So
she had the andros Ziggy, you missed your calling. You're
as funny as an undertaker. Well, now, Ziggy, I don't
suppose you'd care to tell me why you warned me
to get out of Headstone? Got me all wrong saying
I wasn't warning you.
Speaker 11: I was just talking about myself.
Speaker 2: And I don't suppose you'd care to tell me why
somebody took pot shots at missus Connolly here and told
her to get out of town too.
Speaker 11: Me, I don't know nothing, like I was telling you, saying.
Speaker 2: I mind my own business.
Speaker 6: Maybe you stay ignorant that way, but it's healthier and
I like it like that.
Speaker 2: And in that case, why did you send miss Connelly
in to see me?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 11: Like you can see she's a pretty little pigeon.
Speaker 2: She needs to know some guy will help her.
Speaker 6: Now, it ain't no secret that the saint goes around
mixing and other people's business.
Speaker 5: So I tell her to see you?
Speaker 2: And who told you? I was the same?
Speaker 6: I got eyes in my head, Ain't I like I said?
Speaker 8: I used to hack in Brooklyn? I got a wrong?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 8: What about this?
Speaker 6: Mike mccott strictly smart money, saying, huh, A lot of
guys have crossed his.
Speaker 5: Path once you get what I mean?
Speaker 2: What about uh, Harry Kelly? Eh, local stuff, nice, small,
but no more. You're doing all right for a guy
that doesn't know anything. You got me wrong, pal, Ziggy.
Speaker 6: He looks people over, but he don't see nothing except
one guy is tough, another guy is small, and maybe
another guy is too knows.
Speaker 10: I really don't think we should try to involve Ziggy Simon.
He's been very nice as it is.
Speaker 6: She's got something, Paul, I ain't really equipped for it,
because the way you are headed.
Speaker 13: Only a saint would feel at home. Well, here we
are saying Kelly lives on the first floor in the room.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks, wait for it, Ziggy, We've got a couple
of other calls to make after this, So Lorry, I'll wait.
Speaker 6: You get any trouble, just yell, then I'll drive over
and tell the sheriff.
Speaker 2: I heard somebody yell. Thanks. Now come on, Betty, and
I hope our friend is in and that he talked.
Speaker 10: Yes, it's strange. How are I telling you to come
and see him? If you had any trouble, if you
had any connection with me, then why hasn't he said
something to me?
Speaker 2: Well? It sounded to me like a cautious man. Maybe
he did know something that didn't want to say anything
unless he felt sure something was going to be done.
I will soon know who is Simon Templer.
Speaker 10: Just a minute, Oh, shots were in that room.
Speaker 2: This is no time for conversation, Johning.
Speaker 14: We're going in like this, Kelly m h oh, Simon, Kelly, Kelly,
this is Simon Templer.
Speaker 2: Yes, Kelly, the saint who shot you mine? Kelly? Well, Betty,
he isn't going to tell us anything now. Killer did
a very thorough job. Window open, must have shot from here,
and here's a shell on the fireplace. But what was
he saying sounded like like sin. Come on, Betty, we're
going to spread a little saintliness, and I think I
know where to begin. But Siggy, didn't you hear anything? Well?
Speaker 11: I noticed some noise, but like.
Speaker 2: I I know, you mind your own business.
Speaker 10: Are we going to the Sheriff's Simon?
Speaker 2: Not yet, Ziggy? Who's the essayer in this time? All
man Matthews. The office is closed now.
Speaker 11: But he lives right ahead there, that big white house.
Speaker 2: Okay, stop there. I'd like to satisfy a little curiosity
about that mine of yours. I'll be right back.
Speaker 15: You stand here, Betty, What do you want?
Speaker 2: Mister Matthews?
Speaker 8: Who else should be? Here's my house? In what do
you want?
Speaker 2: My name is Simon temp I wanted to ask you
if you know the Connolly silver mine.
Speaker 8: I know every mine within two hundred miles to hear
young fellow. Hey, ain't that Betty Connolly's sitting up there
in that taxi?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 8: And why can't she tell you about the mine? She
owns it?
Speaker 2: Well, she has told me. But I just wanted to
check about the possibility of a mistake. How much silver
would you say there was in the Connolly mine?
Speaker 8: About enough to put in your eye and still leave
room for your finger.
Speaker 2: Couldn't there be a hidden vein in it?
Speaker 8: Nope, there ain't been enough silver around here to make
a dime for years and years.
Speaker 2: Could there be anything else of value in it?
Speaker 8: Mud and water? If you call that valuable? You sure,
of course, I'm sure, young fellow. I've been here, man
and boy for seventy years, and I ain't got no
time to stand around answer and durn fool questions.
Speaker 2: Goodbye, well, goodbye, and Betty, you may be right, oh man,
Matthew says, the mine is worthless too, So Ziggy take
us to see my McCarthy.
Speaker 11: Are you sure you want to go there?
Speaker 8: Say?
Speaker 2: How was you? I get on that plane? It's leaving
pretty soon, No, Zigi, I've decided not to leave Headstone
just yet. Later you can drive me over to Albuquerque
and I'll take the cheap the rest of the way. Okay, charm,
it's your funeral, Simon. Please be careful, don't you worry
Betty the halo whereas Benevolent Association would be very upset
if anything happened to me, I'll be right off. Yeah,
I'm looking for Mike McCarthy where you found him? It's
my boy scout training and never fairs. My name is
Simon Templar, the Saint. I've been known by that name.
So what That's a very interesting question. I must trying
to think of an answer sometime. Meanwhile, I thought you
might I'd like to know that I heartily disapprove of
your telling a certain miss Betty Connolly that she ought
to leave town.
Speaker 5: What's the girl to you?
Speaker 2: It's my business.
Speaker 4: I could make it mine. And if I do, your
halo's going to slip down to start choking you. I
thought bullets were more in your line meaning what?
Speaker 2: Meaning? The shots fired at missus Connolly and a little
gunning job only a few minutes ago.
Speaker 4: I didn't do any gun and but I'm liable to
if you don't beat it.
Speaker 2: And you sound so sure of yourself, Michael.
Speaker 4: That's because I got more in my hand than an
itching palm.
Speaker 2: It's very pretty gun, Mike. But I'm very much afraid
that nothing will satisfy my curiosity short of knowing why
you want to get miss Connolly out of town.
Speaker 4: I got answers for nosy guys, six of them. I
just stand right there, stay away from that death saint
her own.
Speaker 2: Worry, Mike, I have no interest in the desk at all.
But I do have an interest in miss Connolly. And now, Michael,
how did you do?
Speaker 10: What happens Sila?
Speaker 2: Oh not much. I'm afraid the conversation is just getting interesting.
When Mike had a sudden attack of dropsy, that's funny.
I never heard of him being sick. Well, that's because
you mind your own business, Ziggy, Like you tell me
Betty worries that silver mine of.
Speaker 10: Yours about two miles out of town.
Speaker 2: Is there any place in town where we can rent
a car?
Speaker 10: Why I have a car?
Speaker 2: What I feel a prospecting urge coming over me. Ziggy
can take us to Miss Connolly's car, and then we
can dispense with your valuable services.
Speaker 8: What's wrong with my cure?
Speaker 2: Nothing, Ziggy, is just that I don't like people looking
over my shoulder, especially when I visit a lonely mine
in the company of a beautiful girl.
Speaker 10: Well, here's the mine, although I don't know why you want.
Speaker 2: To see it, Rank, I don't know either, but as
long as I'm here, I might as well take the
forty cent tour.
Speaker 10: Certainly, sir, Right this way, this old cable car goes
down into the mine. All we have to do is
stand on the platform and pull the cable. It works
with balanced weights.
Speaker 2: Clever these forty nine ers.
Speaker 10: How far down on the forty cent tour? We give
the exact distance three hundred and fifty four feet six inches.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and thank you for having electric lights in
a mine that hasn't been worked for years.
Speaker 10: Oh, the mine has its own battery. See here's a
bulb on the car. Shall we go down?
Speaker 2: What are we waiting for? Let's go, Maybe the lights
will go out.
Speaker 5: I just told it like that. I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 2: Too, well, Michael McCarthy. I was wondering if we were
going to have your company.
Speaker 5: And this time was I don't try and it.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me, Michael that you're going prospecting with us.
Speaker 4: I'm riding down with you, but I'm coming back alone.
Start the car down, saying, but don't try no tricks.
Speaker 2: You have a suspicion. Just mind mine. Well, here we go.
Call out your floorers. Please mezzanine ladies, underwear goloshes and excessively.
Speaker 5: You'll be singing a different tune pretty soon. Saint. You
both had your chance to leave down your way. Now
you're gonna leave my way.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, dog, Betty. This is my first ride
on an open cable car.
Speaker 5: It'll be your last.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be too sure unless that cable breaks before
we get to the bottom.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Sorry, A little crowded here for one too, so I
guess the one that I have to have to do.
Speaker 10: Terrible man.
Speaker 2: It's all right, Simon.
Speaker 10: It could have been you. He almost knocked you off
the platform.
Speaker 2: Two. It was the padded shoulders in my coat. I
helped them hit the side.
Speaker 10: Look at your shoulders. You're covered with dirt from the
sides of the sheaf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's red di Wait a minute, Well, we can
go back up, Betty. Mike doesn't need our help, and
I don't need anybody to answer questions anymore.
Speaker 10: Simon. I'll never understand you. Why did you look at
the dirt on your coat and say you didn't need
any more questions?
Speaker 2: Because that dirt with red sulfide, Betty, and it explains
why Mike was so anxious to run you out of power.
Speaker 10: Well, I don't see how red sulfide is used in paint,
but that doesn't make it valuable.
Speaker 2: Red sulfide is also cinnebar or from which we get mercury,
and that is pretty valuable. Evidently your mind is rich
in cinebar so it's worth a lot of money. Betty.
Speaker 10: Oh, then that was what Kelly was trying to tell
us when he said sin.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was trying to say cineba.
Speaker 10: How can I ever thank you? Simon?
Speaker 2: Well, I have a couple of ideas on the subject,
but now people would say I was chasing you for
your money. So I guess you can just see me
off on the train. We'll stop in town and have
Ziggy drive us to Albuquerque.
Speaker 10: Oh but I'll drive you.
Speaker 2: Now, I insist on taking a cab. I don't want
you coming back alone. I may want to change my
mind about fortune hunting.
Speaker 11: Like I said, saying, I'm glad to see you leave.
Speaker 8: But it's tom just funny about's changes.
Speaker 2: You want to take Miss Conley with you, but she
doesn't have to go now Ziggy and decides she's rich.
Speaker 10: What Yes, Ziggy, we found out the dead mine is
valuable after all?
Speaker 2: You mean you found silver, no mercury. Oh stop, they
put into moment. That's the stuff, Ziggy, But it's used
for a lot of other things. To take in wartime,
and it's worth a.
Speaker 3: Lot of money.
Speaker 2: What do you know? So that's why Mike was trying
to make you leave. That's it.
Speaker 10: Well did you stop and tell the sheriff we didn't
have time, But I'll see him when we go back.
Speaker 2: That's pretty nice for you or anybody. Oh here, we are
just in time too the Chief Center. That's very nice timing, Ziggy.
Thanks Betty for keeping my force to visit the Headstone
from being dull.
Speaker 10: Oh Simon, Well why don't you stay in Headstone? I
won't know how to run the mine or what to
do with the money or anything.
Speaker 2: You'll learn, Betty, you know what to do when you
get back to town.
Speaker 10: Yes, But what will the sheriff leave me? I mean
about Mike McCarthy killing Harry Kelly.
Speaker 2: I don't think he will, since Mike didn't kill Kelly.
But Kelly was shot with an automatic dejected a shell
on the fireplace. Remember, but Mike McCarthy carried a revolver.
Speaker 10: You saw it, Yes, but will the sheriff.
Speaker 2: The sheriff will believe when you show him that the
gun that killed Kelly is in Ziggy's pocket.
Speaker 8: What what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You knew about the cinnabar or in the mine. You've
carried some of it away to be tested in your cab,
and there was red dust in it, which you tried
to explain with a cornate gag.
Speaker 8: You're crazy, Harry.
Speaker 2: Kelly had an idea what was going on, so you
slipped around at the back while we were at the
front door and killed him.
Speaker 11: All right, wise, guy, you're so smart.
Speaker 8: What about Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike was working for you.
Speaker 10: But silent Zibi told me that you were in town.
Speaker 2: Sure he couldn't be sure that I wasn't here to
break up his little scheme, So the smartest thing to
do was to get us together so he could watch
both of us. He thought I would use his cab
as I did, and it would be easy. But he
slipped up when he sent Mike out to the mine
ahead of us. Ziggy was the only one who knew
where we were going. Okay. Plus, like you said, Pad,
you should have followed your own advice about minding your
own business. He's all yours, Beddy. The gun that killed
Kelly is now on the seat beside him. All you
have to do is turn the bar and the gun
over to the sheriff, and from there on in here'll
mind Ziggy's business for him. But don't worry, Daddy, I'll
stop back some day to make sure that Venus is
in conjunction with Mercury.
Speaker 3: You have just heard another adventure of the Saint, the
robinhood of modern crime. Ah, here is our starved then,
sat Price.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, how many times there have been men
just like Ziggy, led into crime by insatiable greed forgetting
the simplest truth. So aptly phrased by John Dryden, murder
may pass untamished for a time, but pardy justice will
overtake the crime. This is Vincent Price extending a personal
invitation to all of you to join us again next
week at the same time for another adventure of the Saints.
Good Night.
Speaker 3: Tonight's script of The Saint was written by Michael Kramoy.
Our cast included Harry Bartel Barney Phillips, Colleen Collins, Fred
Howard and Tony Barrett. The music was composed and conducted
by Harry Zimmermann. The Saint is a James L. Saffier
Agency production and was transcribed and directed by Thomas A.
Speaker 5: Mcavittie.
Speaker 3: Don't forget that the Saint comic books are unsaleed all
news stands. You're announcer Merril Ross. This is the mutual
broadcasting system.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I really enjoy this episode. It's short, but
they get so much in there. The title is great.
It does sound like a Charterous short story even though
it's original to radio. And again great pacing, snappy dialog,
and some very solid turns in the plot. The final
reveal of Ziggy is a bit of a shocker, but
there were clues throughout the story. Now, the evil Brooklyn
Cabby might confuse some who listen to the Saint long
term because the Saint acquires a recurring sidekick who is
a Brooklyn Cabby named Louie, and while their voices are similar,
in the performance, Louie is played by Laurence Stompkin, whereas
Ziggy was played by Tony Barrett, which might also be
familiar to those of you who listen to our Volume
one or Volume two feeds and heard Tony Barrett plane
marked on of it a Brooklyn Cabby who was a
sidekick to Frank Grace. Now, I do want to talk
a little bit about Benson Price in some ways to
go into great detail about Bencent Price and his legacy,
because he's probably one of the better known actors of
his era today, someone whose legacy in the horror genre
makes him recognizable to many people who wouldn't know who
I was talking about if you talk about the best
known actors of the era. But it is fair to
say that Price was not yet that figure. Well he
had done a horror movie. His acting tended to run
a gammut of different films and roles as a character actor,
often playing characters who whose morality could be ambiguous at best.
He played Rishlieu in The Three Musketeers, he had a
role as a murder suspect in Laura, and could often
be a film noir villain, and of course did some
comedies as well. His radio work in the era reflected
the same sort of variety, although there were some hints
of the sort of roles he would become known for,
such as some of his escape and suspense performances, particularly
Present Tents and Three Skeleton Key and later Pitt in
The Pendulum. The same is somewhat noteworthy as it's probably
the most unambiguously heroic role that Pross played over radio
or film and really allows him a chance to demonstrate
some of his real life charm and humor. Listener comments
and feedback now and we go over to Spotify where
we had a comment regarding the Miracle Tea party, and
we have an interesting answer regarding the date Doctor who
done it right? So this episode has the announcer saying
Leslie Charter is thirty three. He was born in nineteen
oh seven, which makes this episode nineteen forty. But I'm
guessing that isn't what you were talking about in the beginning. Well,
I actually was talking about the fact that there was
a conflict between different sources on the program that put
the date of the show as nineteen forty and others
that put it as nineteen forty four. I really didn't
know why there was that difference, But I think you
give a good reason why this was likely nineteen forty,
and I'm not certain why it wasn't picked up. The
sort of storytelling in The Saint was very much in
Voguan nineteen forty, as well as man and woman detective teams.
With the success of The Thin Man and the idea
of directly adapting the author's stories would also have been
a lot more popular, particularly with the success of Sherlock Holmes,
with Bruce and Rathbone having been successful over radio. I
don't know why some would put it in nineteen forty four,
except it does still have the same sort of musical
feel as what would end up coming to air so
many years later. Yeah, that does answer that question definitely,
nineteen forty based on the age, Harrison Rids, I agree
with your point about pet culture in the way it
has changed. It's another reason old time radio fascinates me.
Not only is it amusing to hear things like the
age of what was considered old, but there are some
surprising insights into societal behavior that you might not have
given much thought to since it seems so natural to
us today, like how we connect with pets. I never
listen to the Saint, but it seems very entertaining. I
just don't quite see the Robin hood aspect. In the addition,
and the lack of a hood aspect is a really
interesting thing about the Saint. In the books, which started
being released in nineteen twenty eight, the Saint often plundered criminals. Now,
his actions would often lead to criminals either going to
jail or getting killed, but the Saint had a very
strong interests and plundering the riches of the he termed
quote unquote the ungodly. So the Saints' path to dealing
with a criminal or crime would look very different than
your traditional detective, because first he wanted to make them pay,
quite literally, and the money would go either to someone
who they had wronged, or it would go to charity
or some other people in need, with a little bit
generally going in the direction of Simon Templar and his men.
When you get into some of the later films as
well as the radio series, it is not really viewed
socially or morally correct to have a hero who engages
in thievery, so at least in the existing episodes, Saint
doesn't engage in any though I should say that that
one excerpt we played a mystery playhouse was of a
story where Simon extorted a bunch of money from these
various criminal elements, but that was during the war and
post war was kind of a different era. Nevertheless, even
though he was not morally allowed to engage in thievery,
the radio program still kept the title for him as
the Robin Hood of Modern Crime. Even though it did
not fit at all. That clears that up all right. Well,
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Speaker 16: Where thought I was muddled before, now I'm absolutely certain
it's more interesting online. It's a testimony of Nellie Swinson.
Speaker 12: Waitress, Miss Swinson, If you were asked at the preliminary hearing,
can you tell who was standing in the doorway with
the gun?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, what did you say?
Speaker 10: I said, I couldn't tell exactly, because you see, he
had his coat collar up and his hat down, and.
Speaker 8: I didn't watch his face.
Speaker 2: I watched his gun.
Speaker 12: That's what you said at the preliminary hearing some weeks ago. Now,
what did you testify to a few minutes ago.
Speaker 11: I can't exactly remember.
Speaker 12: I shall refresh your memory. You said, quote the man
I saw was Clem. Grayson unquote. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 12: How do you explain you're revamping your testimony?
Speaker 11: I can't.
Speaker 12: During the recess a few minutes ago, would you talk
to the prosecutor in this case?
Speaker 2: Yes, lawder please, Yes I did.
Speaker 12: Would you please tell the court what it was you
talked to the prosecutor of pop I object.
Speaker 16: Or suspend the objection on the grounds of the content
of the conversation was immaterial. Immaterial, It's the most material
thing on earth. This is fantastic.
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