WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.559 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Causton's new radio. 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.919 Our number two of Night's Side is underway, and I 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:15.880 want to make a bet. I'll bet you fifty cents 4 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:18.800 right now, we'll shake over the phone. I'll put my 5 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:22.519 hand up to the microphone and shake. You can't tell 6 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:27.519 me the number one beer by sales in the United States. 7 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.239 I bet my first my next guest could do that. 8 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.280 I've had him on many, many times, but it's been 9 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.640 a good what three four five years since I last 10 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.840 had Beer Dave on. So, Beer Dave, how you doing? 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:44.079 Welcome back to BZ. 12 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:47.840 I'm good, Morgan, it's good to catch up again. 13 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:51.799 Yes, it is so. I think I know the answer 14 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:57.479 to my question. And it surprised me that the number 15 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:03.000 one beer is bud Light. Is that accurate? 16 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.159 No, it's Medella especial l. 17 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.040 Midello has overtaken Budweiser. 18 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:17.680 Correct in fact, in fact, michelob Ultra has now taken 19 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:22.079 over bud Light. Bud Light is now number three. 20 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.040 And where does Budweiser place? 21 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:35.280 Still within the top ten, but it's probably eight, maybe 22 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:39.040 even nine already. Regular you know, it's I mean, the 23 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:44.799 quantity out there that is consumed is rarely the uh low, 24 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.879 the high strength. That's usually the low calorie. Those are 25 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:52.840 the leaders, you know across the you know, Bush Light 26 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:59.159 outsells bush you know, Miller Lite obviously outsells Highlight. You know, 27 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.159 it's just sat with you know, in the seventies when 28 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:06.400 they started directing us all to go to diet beer 29 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:10.039 as they call it. Back then, they had no idea 30 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:14.520 would overtake like it did. And all the regular beers 31 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:18.680 that we used to consume have all fallen behind their 32 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:20.680 light counterparts. 33 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:25.240 And I'm jessing Medello is an import. 34 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:29.680 Correct, Yes, it's from the Saint Bury that makes Corona, 35 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:36.319 from the Medello Brewing Company. Corona is the one that 36 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.439 sort of broke into the US. And then Medello is 37 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:44.039 the one that most of the Mexican heritage, that was 38 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:48.719 the brand that they always appreciated. And as our Hispanic 39 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:52.599 community has grown in this country and also you know, 40 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:58.599 our tastes have changed, Modelo especially is the one that's 41 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.280 taken over. Is the selling beer in the country. 42 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:05.159 And where does Heineken place. 43 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.960 Heineken wouldn't even be in the top ten. Heineken's actually 44 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.439 lost quite a bit of share, but Heineken has quite 45 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:18.400 a bit of ownership and other breweries that play. Heiney 46 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:23.680 Can owns the Laganitis brand, the craft brewery. Heinekin owns 47 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:28.960 Takati and Joseki, a couple of the Mexican beers, and 48 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:33.400 that's helped them. But it's pretty amazing that between you know, 49 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:38.159 Anheuser Busch in bev which owns Medillo, they just don't 50 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.759 have the rights to sell it in the United States market. 51 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:47.919 It's brought into the US market by Constellation Brands, which 52 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.080 is a large wine and spirits company as well. 53 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:56.080 And I know I'm hopping and skipping around, but we 54 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:02.080 here in Massachusetts have our own little beer, Sam Adams. 55 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.719 How does that angel On the large scale. 56 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:09.719 Of beers, Sam Adams comes in in the top five 57 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.120 of the craft breweries, not within the top ten of 58 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:18.759 the of all beers produced, you know, on a national level, 59 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.800 you know, it doesn't not really competing with the you know, 60 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.519 the Anheuser Bushes and the Millers of the of the country, 61 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.079 but you know, with it, it's Sam Adams absolutely places 62 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:33.240 in the in the top five of Kraft craft breweries 63 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:37.120 and they operate a large brewery in the Cincinnati area 64 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.560 which is where I hail from. And they took over 65 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.079 the old Shaneling Brewing Company and they use that bery 66 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.519 to produce a lot of the Sam Adams brand as 67 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:52.240 well as the one that they have and the Fogolsburg area, 68 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:56.439 Fogelsville area of Pennsylvania, which is sort of in the 69 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:57.439 Lehigh Valley. 70 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:03.759 If you will, think of America in the fifties and sixties, 71 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.920 there were no imports for sales in the liquor stores 72 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:16.000 per se. So you had your Miller, you had your Budweiser, 73 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:26.639 and you had lesser products like Carling black label hamser 74 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:31.040 from the Schaeffer, from the land of Sky Blue Hunter. 75 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:41.480 And why did dominance fade by the comparison to what 76 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:42.319 we have now? 77 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.519 Oh, A lot of it came down to the marketing 78 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:51.800 savvy of you know who ended up being the big 79 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:57.120 two leaders, the you know, Anheuser Busch and the Miller brands. 80 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.839 And most of that was driven by the marketing dollars. 81 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.720 And you know, those regional breweries could not compete on 82 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.720 those levels in any way, shape or form. And asked 83 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:14.079 those those regional brands would start to lose market share, 84 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.759 you know, in would come the Miller Lites and the 85 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:22.079 Budweisers of the world to take over that market share. 86 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:26.480 And unfortunately, the the you know, the the brands of 87 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.839 beer became pretty homogenized to where, you know, and the 88 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.360 winning one that really sort of came out in the 89 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.319 in the eighties to really end up with number three 90 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:41.439 was the brand Cores, which you know surpassed Paps. And 91 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:45.439 you know, Schlitz had a number of failed products on 92 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.240 the market, including their flagship brand, and they had some 93 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:56.959 some very ugly strikes. Same with Schaeffer and Ballentine, who 94 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:02.399 had you know, different trait different to changes in ownership, 95 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.439 and that all kind of played and you know, when 96 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.879 the brands weren't locally owned anymore, you know, sort of 97 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:12.240 people were like, well, you know, none of the breweries 98 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.480 in the metro New York area are locally owned anymore, 99 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.480 so why don't I just drink Budweiser or Miller since 100 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.120 they're from another part of the world as well. 101 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:31.160 Usually, if you watched a World Series, you only saw 102 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:38.839 Budweiser Miller. Then slowly but surely Corps filtered in to 103 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:47.480 sponsorship and a few others, but they owned those major 104 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:54.879 sporting events of playoff baseball, World Series baseball football, and 105 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:01.000 now it slipped through their fingers. Those days are gone. 106 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.920 Yeah, you're seeing a lot a lot of imports advertised 107 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:11.040 during those sporting events, and you're not seeing exclusive rights 108 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.879 to where you know, you would only see a Miller 109 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:17.839 light or a Budweiser commercial during those events. You know, 110 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.759 you you can watch, you know, the playoff games this 111 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:27.319 weekend and you'll have various brands. And you've also gotten 112 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:33.120 back into seeing spirits being advertised. You know, for probably 113 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:38.440 a good forty years, spirits were pulled away from being 114 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.919 advertised on the on the airwaves. So there's a lot 115 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.200 of choices out there. 116 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:46.200 I'm going to take a break, but I'm going to 117 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.159 ask callers if they want to call in talk to 118 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:53.879 you about their favorite beer six seven, five, four thirty 119 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:57.960 or eight eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. Use those 120 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.480 numbers to get through the Beer Dave and I want 121 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:05.879 to talk about the premiums, the giveaways. Yeah, you could 122 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:10.080 buy a T shirt that says bad a course or whatnot, 123 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:15.799 but some of those bigger items like mirrors and the 124 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:22.080 Clydesdale Horses clock. So give us a call, Beer David. 125 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.799 I will be here up to the top of the hour. 126 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:29.159 I'm Morgan. This is nights Side and let me take 127 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:34.279 a break. Time nine sixteen and unless I hear differently, 128 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:36.320 seventeen degrees. 129 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.639 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 130 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:41.759 Nightside Studios. 131 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:47.080 I' WBZ News Radio. I'm Morgan's filling into Dan. Dan. 132 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.960 We'll be back tomorrow. My guest this hour is beer, Dave. 133 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:56.360 Trust me, if it's a beer product and it's existed 134 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.759 over the past seventy five plus years, Dave will tell 135 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.960 you all about it. And I'm asking about the premiums. 136 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:11.480 We've all seen that light fixture usually hanging down chandelier, 137 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.440 like in bars where the Clydesdale's are riding in a circle, 138 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:22.360 the eight Clydesdale horses pulling the Budweis wagon. If somebody 139 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:27.600 had that item in decent condition, what would be the 140 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:33.879 potential value. 141 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:34.960 They hail about twenty five hundred to three thousand dollars. 142 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:39.360 Now they've gone up a little bit in price. If 143 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.440 they're in in mint shape with those crashes or smoke damage, 144 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.240 they they absolutely will hold that value. 145 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:54.320 Smoke damage is common to that particular feature. 146 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:00.240 Correct, Correct, because you know it was molded plastic and 147 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.759 it hung in a bar, and you know that you 148 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.679 would get the tar from the tobacco smoke that would 149 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:10.279 permeate the plastic. And you know, unfortunately, there's a lot 150 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:15.279 of a lot of nice pieces of advertising from the 151 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.600 berrys that you know, but hung in bars for a 152 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:23.159 long time, you know, you would get unfortunately that that 153 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.080 sort of a dulling or a yellowing of the plastic. 154 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:32.559 Right, what about neon? When I was doing trivia back 155 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:36.559 beginning in the eighties, I was able to give away 156 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:46.159 the full size cores silver bullet neon and what would 157 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.879 approximately be the worth of that item? 158 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.799 Neons unless they're they're from a you know, a unique 159 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.519 small or or something you know, all the way back 160 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:02.720 to the early days of you know, beer neons, which 161 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:07.679 would be you know, the the forties, post war World 162 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.799 War two into the into the early sixties. Something in 163 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.240 that is going to hold its value because you know, 164 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.919 so few survived, plus you know, the technology. But nowadays 165 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.399 what most looks like neon is the LEDs where you 166 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.080 have the you know, the tubes that take on and 167 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.559 mimic what neon used to be. And for that reason, 168 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:39.200 you you know, very few breweries produce actual neons anymore. 169 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.320 Most of the technology has changed to LEDs number one, 170 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:47.600 they use less power. Number two. They last longer, so 171 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.799 you know, the glow is much much brighter. Neons over 172 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.039 time would sort of lose their luster and they would 173 00:12:55.120 --> 00:13:00.519 dull obviously with the glass tubes. Once you would cracker 174 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.480 break the tube, you know you had to have it 175 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.600 repaired or you know it was no longer in use. 176 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.120 So a ballpark estimation on your part, Well, I would 177 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.720 say that the silver bullet when probably is one hundred 178 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:19.240 and fifty to two hundred dollars in that in that 179 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:19.879 range is. 180 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.919 Probably what Yeah, I thought, I thought it must be 181 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.120 more than that. But let me take some of the 182 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.720 phone traffic we have and let's go to Glenn and 183 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.440 Brighton Glenn. Welcome aboard, hear it now? 184 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.039 Yeah? Thanks? Yeah. Beer is one of my favorite topics. 185 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.080 My favorite beer, I was telling Rob, the producer is 186 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:47.240 do Sekis. Yeah, a friend of mine. Well, I used 187 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.600 to like the ads of do Seki's about a guy 188 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:51.960 that could mail a letter without a postage stamp and 189 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:55.399 that got there anyway. And he said, I don't always 190 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.559 drink beer, but when I do, I drink do Seki. 191 00:13:57.639 --> 00:13:58.320 Stay thirsty. 192 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.600 My friends remember the commercial. 193 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.759 Yeah, Bradley Jay used to do his promos based on 194 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:09.799 the way they did anyway, And now my second favor 195 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:14.879 be Resizo. It tastes like alcoholic writ with gingerbread. It's 196 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:18.720 called harpoond Winter Warmer. Are you familiar with. 197 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.279 I'm very familiar with Harpoon. It's made by the Mass 198 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.320 Bay Brewery guys. And you see a lot of those 199 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.440 seasonal beers around the holidays where they'll spice them with 200 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.720 with ginger or nutmeg or you know, any number of 201 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.200 spices and stuff, and they're they're very popular. It's uh, 202 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.840 you know the Great lakes Bury out of Cleveland. Their 203 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.879 Christmas Ale is their their biggest selling beer. 204 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.080 Wait, I had one more quick question. Have you ever 205 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.559 heard of tree secies. A friend of mine went to 206 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.399 San Diego and I guess it's not legal to sell 207 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:59.600 in America because it's a high proof, but he managed 208 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:03.240 this smuggle a case of it up here, and man, 209 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:04.799 that stuff gets a job done. 210 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:07.440 Well. 211 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.519 Used to be imported. Yeah, well, it's not illegal, it's 212 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:14.840 just because of the strength they choose not to bring 213 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:20.559 it into the US. The importer Molsen Bredor was another 214 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:25.720 one that was a very high strength from the Moulson Brewery. 215 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:31.360 A number of the well, yeah you can still still. 216 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.080 Get Moosehead, but it's not near as widely distributed as 217 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.399 is Le Bat and Molson is from the Canadian imports. 218 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.120 Levett is kind of like the Canadian pap Blue Ribbon 219 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.480 or Schlitz there. You know, it's kind of a little 220 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:53.120 green beer, four man's beer. Anything else going, No, that's no, 221 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.039 that's I just had to I had to get this 222 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.080 because beer is right up my alley. 223 00:15:58.799 --> 00:15:59.840 Well, thank you for the call. 224 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:01.840 All right, you two pigs. 225 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.679 Good evening. Let's go to Quincy and speak to Scott. Scott, 226 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.720 welcome to night Side. You've got beer days. 227 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:12.440 Well, what a great show. 228 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:16.519 I love it. And you know, my beer has evolved 229 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.279 over the course of my life. In the eighties it 230 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:23.200 was the Moulse in golden and Molse and ice, and 231 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:30.600 then into the you know, two thousands, nineties, twenty twenty ten's, 232 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.639 it was the Corona, and then I started switched to 233 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:39.120 COR's Light and as of January first, I'm drinking the 234 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.600 non alcoholic bears. If you could talk a bit about that, 235 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:49.159 like the Core's Edge and the Heineken zero zero and. 236 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:54.840 You know and the IPA Hayes, what's the deal with 237 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.639 non alcoholic beers and what are your thoughts on the 238 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.600 better ones versus et cetera. 239 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:02.399 Give it a go. 240 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:04.240 Sure. 241 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:09.240 Amazingly, there's a brewing company called Athletic Brewing Company. They're 242 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.599 based out of Connecticut and they became they broke the 243 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:18.720 twenty five top craft breweries last year and they only 244 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.440 make non alcoholic beer. And lots of the brewing companies 245 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:29.480 have put this, you know, put out a representative from 246 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.599 that that category, Like you said, the Corpse Edge Honeyken 247 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:38.240 Zero's Nheyser Bush just broke with a michelob ultra that 248 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:42.480 is non alcoholic. You're you're seeing more and more of 249 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:45.799 them going that way. One of the things that's that's 250 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:51.359 working towards growing that is the ozempis and the govi's 251 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:56.279 and that people are finding when they're on that medication 252 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:03.680 that drinking alcohol actually he works in reverse and doesn't 253 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.920 really coincide with when you're on that particular drug. You 254 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.720 can't you can't also consume alcohol and have the same results. 255 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.400 So a number of doctors have steered them towards the 256 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:21.240 nonacoholic beers and We saw this craze happen in the 257 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.920 in the seventies when there was a lot of pushback 258 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:30.880 with the mad mothers in other you know, negative things, 259 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.599 negative connotations towards beer. We saw a lot of breweries 260 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.759 doing the non alcoholics, but I don't think we saw 261 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.119 the the amount of it. You know, you can get 262 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.640 a Guinness zero now, which is amazing. It tastes, tastes 263 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.279 very similar to regular Guinness and it has no alcohol 264 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.599 in it whatsoever. And who would have thought it Guinness 265 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.440 would be a non alcoholic. 266 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:56.559 Are gonna let you. 267 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:58.480 Good? 268 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.759 Thank you, Thanks, thank you for your call. Thank you. 269 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:07.519 One open line, grab it six four ten thirty eight 270 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.079 eight eight nine to nine ten thirty. Whoever takes that 271 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.680 line will be the third person Beer Dave will be 272 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.160 chit and chatting with. I've got to take a quick 273 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.920 news hit and Beer Dave think about this while we're 274 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:28.519 off in the news hit. What is the most sought after, 275 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:39.319 premium premium, most valuable beer item. And when we come back, 276 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.720 we'll hear what you have to say about that. Again, 277 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:48.119 One open line, grab it, darn in Somerville, Jym in 278 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.759 Kansas City. You guys are next, Do not hang up 279 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.720 during the news because you've already been screened and I 280 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.559 want to hear what you have to say. And Jim 281 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.119 Kansas City, I notice your last name makes me think 282 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:09.200 of a beer company, and I'm wondering if a macrot 283 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.640 will find out when we bring you into the conversation. 284 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:17.799 Time Here on nightside nine thirty temperature Here on nightside 285 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:19.799 seventeen degrees. 286 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:27.319 Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 287 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.720 I'm Morgan. I was just talking to Rob, my producer, 288 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:35.279 and I said, we have one call on the subject 289 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:39.720 of diabetes. I've got full lines on the subject of beer. 290 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:42.400 You know, figure out what the people want and give 291 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.799 it to them. So let's take a call from Jim 292 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:51.559 in Kansas City. Jim, I noticed by your last name. 293 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.960 Are you in the beer industry? 294 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.839 Well, not that I know of it. No, probably not. 295 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.480 There's a story there. I'll tell you off the air 296 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.839 if you want to listen sometime. But no, I don't 297 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:06.519 think our family was into it. 298 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:12.079 Now, okay, because you know that name is a name 299 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:13.599 within the beer industry. 300 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.759 I did not know that now, but I wondered, I know, 301 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.279 I know there's uh, yeah, I know that there's a 302 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:23.160 famous part, and I wondered always how they got rich 303 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.720 and famous, but that would probably be how. But I'll 304 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.720 tell your stories off theres about my last name and 305 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.880 about it. Well, I don't know where do we start here. 306 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.960 I'm a collective beer can collector from way back. But uh, 307 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:44.079 you to answer your question my favorite, I'd have to 308 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.880 think hard because I had lots of Budweiser posters and paraphernalia. 309 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.799 So my favorite collectible I don't know, but uh, my 310 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:55.119 favorite can, my favorite beer can of all time ever 311 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:01.920 was Iroquois because it had it was before the cans 312 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:06.759 were crimped. It was a steel a straight steel can, 313 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:12.799 and it was like uh embossed, and it had a 314 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.799 Native American and the headdress and it had just a 315 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.039 real nice can. 316 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:17.960 Uh. 317 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.759 Iroquois was my favorite can ever. But my favorite beer 318 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.440 that I ever drank ever was a Balatine. It was 319 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.000 kind of like a It was like a Saint Pauly 320 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.039 Girl beer, only at like the price of a Schaeffer. 321 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:33.839 I really loved it. And warns aren't the. 322 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:37.200 Three rings? 323 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.200 It was fantastic and those little pin stripes on the can. 324 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.559 So but here's some other ones that stand out in 325 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:49.799 my mind, Iron City Rolling Rock, Uh, Ducune Pilsner and 326 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.799 one of the ones from over in the area. This 327 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.839 is going way, way, way, way way back from when 328 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:59.279 they still pulled barges on the towpath with mules. 329 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:00.559 Uh. 330 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.240 There was a brewery in our area called Star Model, 331 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.480 and they brewed beer in bottles, and they came in 332 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.079 like I think in a court a half gallon or 333 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.839 a gallon bottle, you get it. In the bottles were 334 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.160 these real tall, long necked bottles, and like fifty years 335 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.440 after it went out of business, guys would still go 336 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.359 down and try to find these bottles because there were 337 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:25.960 worth hundreds of dollars the bottles were. 338 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.000 Yeah. 339 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:26.599 It was. 340 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:34.519 In Peru, Illinois, Okay, yeah, yeah. 341 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.519 In fact, this product in Iroquois. You know both of them. 342 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:43.119 Yeah. Iroquois was from the Buffalo area and Starmandale was 343 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:46.799 in the Peru, Illinois area. Ironically, I was driving through 344 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.759 their day on my way back from Wisconsin. I went 345 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:54.680 right through Peru, Illinois where the brewery used to be, 346 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:59.279 and they went out in the in late sixties, that 347 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:05.079 brewery unfortunately, but Iroquois Iroquois lasted into the seventies in 348 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.960 Buffalo and they did. They had the Indian Head beer 349 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.880 was there, and then they also did They also had 350 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:16.400 a Tomahawk al that they also made, and it was 351 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:20.279 part of International Breweries and they lasted into the the 352 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.680 early seventies before they went out of business. 353 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:28.680 All right, Jim, you call wait wait there was another 354 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.920 one called oh yeah, Mabel Black Label. You remember that. 355 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.240 Oh yeah, right, hey, Mabel Black Label. 356 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:43.279 And now here's here's hello, here's something that something. The 357 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.519 other day I was thinking about. I know there was 358 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.000 a beer called Strows, but was there one also called 359 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:55.039 Stores or something like that, Stroll Bulls or something like that. 360 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:00.240 Yes, you had Strows from Detroit and Stores was from Omaha. 361 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:06.839 Rules had those commercials, uh with the dog Alex. 362 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.079 It was it was Yeah. 363 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.799 Anyway, there was a guy in our There was a 364 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:16.200 guy in our town that he would only drink stores. 365 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.599 It had to be I mean he would go to 366 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.759 like anyway. 367 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.000 All right, let's go, Jim, Thanks, thanks for the call. 368 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.720 Bye bye, because he was gonna keep naming beer after 369 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.480 beer after beer, Jim Law, Jim's line is available. You 370 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.079 want to take it. Paul and Plymouth, You're next here 371 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:39.359 on night side. Welcome to speak. 372 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.960 Hi, Hi Morgan, how are you, sir? A good thank you, 373 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:50.279 I and your guest. I was wondering, you know, I'm 374 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.000 old enough to remember when Schlitz was the big boy 375 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.519 on the block, and I'm wondering if you, if your 376 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.799 guests can uh talk a little about what happened there 377 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:06.680 and because they made some really bummed businesses and just 378 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.240 all of a sudden went away. So I'm just wondering. 379 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.160 Dave, tell Paul what killed Schlitz. 380 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.559 So Schlitz. Schlitz started playing around with how they produced 381 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.240 the beer, and they sped up their fermentation and a 382 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.839 few other things that Unfortunately, what happened was when the 383 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:32.200 beer hit the market, the product wasn't completely fully fermented, 384 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.799 and the cans would explode and the beer was expiring 385 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.279 on the store shelves and Anhezer, Bush and Miller came 386 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.000 in and just ate their lunch. And in nineteen eighty two, 387 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.759 Schlitz closed their Milwaukee facility and they sold the brands 388 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:54.920 to the Strawbery out of Detroit, Michigan, and Drove kept 389 00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.440 the brand going for about ten years and it really 390 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.400 just faded away. The brand still owned. It's owned by 391 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.680 the Papst organization. And they still still produce the brand, 392 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.640 but it's nowhere near what it was. I mean strows 393 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.319 are you know, Stros kept it sort of floundering a 394 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.000 little bit, but the brand had been killed by the family, 395 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:23.519 the Eeline family that was running the bury in in Milwaukee, 396 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.720 and by the eighties the brand had lost its. 397 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:31.200 Luster, all right, Paul wanted to hear. 398 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.839 Yeah, yeah, they it is the same if you buy 399 00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.119 a Schlitz today, is it the same recipe or as 400 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.480 I mean, not the bad recipe, but the same old 401 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.240