Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Causton's new radio.
Speaker 2: Our number two of Night's Side is underway, and I
Speaker 2: want to make a bet. I'll bet you fifty cents
Speaker 2: right now, we'll shake over the phone. I'll put my
Speaker 2: hand up to the microphone and shake. You can't tell
Speaker 2: me the number one beer by sales in the United States.
Speaker 2: I bet my first my next guest could do that.
Speaker 2: I've had him on many, many times, but it's been
Speaker 2: a good what three four five years since I last
Speaker 2: had Beer Dave on. So, Beer Dave, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to BZ.
Speaker 3: I'm good, Morgan, it's good to catch up again.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is so. I think I know the answer
Speaker 2: to my question. And it surprised me that the number
Speaker 2: one beer is bud Light. Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: No, it's Medella especial l.
Speaker 2: Midello has overtaken Budweiser.
Speaker 3: Correct in fact, in fact, michelob Ultra has now taken
Speaker 3: over bud Light. Bud Light is now number three.
Speaker 2: And where does Budweiser place?
Speaker 3: Still within the top ten, but it's probably eight, maybe
Speaker 3: even nine already. Regular you know, it's I mean, the
Speaker 3: quantity out there that is consumed is rarely the uh low,
Speaker 3: the high strength. That's usually the low calorie. Those are
Speaker 3: the leaders, you know across the you know, Bush Light
Speaker 3: outsells bush you know, Miller Lite obviously outsells Highlight. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just sat with you know, in the seventies when
Speaker 3: they started directing us all to go to diet beer
Speaker 3: as they call it. Back then, they had no idea
Speaker 3: would overtake like it did. And all the regular beers
Speaker 3: that we used to consume have all fallen behind their
Speaker 3: light counterparts.
Speaker 2: And I'm jessing Medello is an import.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, it's from the Saint Bury that makes Corona,
Speaker 3: from the Medello Brewing Company. Corona is the one that
Speaker 3: sort of broke into the US. And then Medello is
Speaker 3: the one that most of the Mexican heritage, that was
Speaker 3: the brand that they always appreciated. And as our Hispanic
Speaker 3: community has grown in this country and also you know,
Speaker 3: our tastes have changed, Modelo especially is the one that's
Speaker 3: taken over. Is the selling beer in the country.
Speaker 2: And where does Heineken place.
Speaker 3: Heineken wouldn't even be in the top ten. Heineken's actually
Speaker 3: lost quite a bit of share, but Heineken has quite
Speaker 3: a bit of ownership and other breweries that play. Heiney
Speaker 3: Can owns the Laganitis brand, the craft brewery. Heinekin owns
Speaker 3: Takati and Joseki, a couple of the Mexican beers, and
Speaker 3: that's helped them. But it's pretty amazing that between you know,
Speaker 3: Anheuser Busch in bev which owns Medillo, they just don't
Speaker 3: have the rights to sell it in the United States market.
Speaker 3: It's brought into the US market by Constellation Brands, which
Speaker 3: is a large wine and spirits company as well.
Speaker 2: And I know I'm hopping and skipping around, but we
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts have our own little beer, Sam Adams.
Speaker 2: How does that angel On the large scale.
Speaker 3: Of beers, Sam Adams comes in in the top five
Speaker 3: of the craft breweries, not within the top ten of
Speaker 3: the of all beers produced, you know, on a national level,
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't not really competing with the you know,
Speaker 3: the Anheuser Bushes and the Millers of the of the country,
Speaker 3: but you know, with it, it's Sam Adams absolutely places
Speaker 3: in the in the top five of Kraft craft breweries
Speaker 3: and they operate a large brewery in the Cincinnati area
Speaker 3: which is where I hail from. And they took over
Speaker 3: the old Shaneling Brewing Company and they use that bery
Speaker 3: to produce a lot of the Sam Adams brand as
Speaker 3: well as the one that they have and the Fogolsburg area,
Speaker 3: Fogelsville area of Pennsylvania, which is sort of in the
Speaker 3: Lehigh Valley.
Speaker 2: If you will, think of America in the fifties and sixties,
Speaker 2: there were no imports for sales in the liquor stores
Speaker 2: per se. So you had your Miller, you had your Budweiser,
Speaker 2: and you had lesser products like Carling black label hamser
Speaker 2: from the Schaeffer, from the land of Sky Blue Hunter.
Speaker 2: And why did dominance fade by the comparison to what
Speaker 2: we have now?
Speaker 3: Oh, A lot of it came down to the marketing
Speaker 3: savvy of you know who ended up being the big
Speaker 3: two leaders, the you know, Anheuser Busch and the Miller brands.
Speaker 3: And most of that was driven by the marketing dollars.
Speaker 3: And you know, those regional breweries could not compete on
Speaker 3: those levels in any way, shape or form. And asked
Speaker 3: those those regional brands would start to lose market share,
Speaker 3: you know, in would come the Miller Lites and the
Speaker 3: Budweisers of the world to take over that market share.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, the the you know, the the brands of
Speaker 3: beer became pretty homogenized to where, you know, and the
Speaker 3: winning one that really sort of came out in the
Speaker 3: in the eighties to really end up with number three
Speaker 3: was the brand Cores, which you know surpassed Paps. And
Speaker 3: you know, Schlitz had a number of failed products on
Speaker 3: the market, including their flagship brand, and they had some
Speaker 3: some very ugly strikes. Same with Schaeffer and Ballentine, who
Speaker 3: had you know, different trait different to changes in ownership,
Speaker 3: and that all kind of played and you know, when
Speaker 3: the brands weren't locally owned anymore, you know, sort of
Speaker 3: people were like, well, you know, none of the breweries
Speaker 3: in the metro New York area are locally owned anymore,
Speaker 3: so why don't I just drink Budweiser or Miller since
Speaker 3: they're from another part of the world as well.
Speaker 2: Usually, if you watched a World Series, you only saw
Speaker 2: Budweiser Miller. Then slowly but surely Corps filtered in to
Speaker 2: sponsorship and a few others, but they owned those major
Speaker 2: sporting events of playoff baseball, World Series baseball football, and
Speaker 2: now it slipped through their fingers. Those days are gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're seeing a lot a lot of imports advertised
Speaker 3: during those sporting events, and you're not seeing exclusive rights
Speaker 3: to where you know, you would only see a Miller
Speaker 3: light or a Budweiser commercial during those events. You know,
Speaker 3: you you can watch, you know, the playoff games this
Speaker 3: weekend and you'll have various brands. And you've also gotten
Speaker 3: back into seeing spirits being advertised. You know, for probably
Speaker 3: a good forty years, spirits were pulled away from being
Speaker 3: advertised on the on the airwaves. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of choices out there.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a break, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask callers if they want to call in talk to
Speaker 2: you about their favorite beer six seven, five, four thirty
Speaker 2: or eight eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. Use those
Speaker 2: numbers to get through the Beer Dave and I want
Speaker 2: to talk about the premiums, the giveaways. Yeah, you could
Speaker 2: buy a T shirt that says bad a course or whatnot,
Speaker 2: but some of those bigger items like mirrors and the
Speaker 2: Clydesdale Horses clock. So give us a call, Beer David.
Speaker 2: I will be here up to the top of the hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Morgan. This is nights Side and let me take
Speaker 2: a break. Time nine sixteen and unless I hear differently,
Speaker 2: seventeen degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios.
Speaker 2: I' WBZ News Radio. I'm Morgan's filling into Dan. Dan.
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow. My guest this hour is beer, Dave.
Speaker 2: Trust me, if it's a beer product and it's existed
Speaker 2: over the past seventy five plus years, Dave will tell
Speaker 2: you all about it. And I'm asking about the premiums.
Speaker 2: We've all seen that light fixture usually hanging down chandelier,
Speaker 2: like in bars where the Clydesdale's are riding in a circle,
Speaker 2: the eight Clydesdale horses pulling the Budweis wagon. If somebody
Speaker 2: had that item in decent condition, what would be the
Speaker 2: potential value.
Speaker 3: They hail about twenty five hundred to three thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Now they've gone up a little bit in price. If
Speaker 3: they're in in mint shape with those crashes or smoke damage,
Speaker 3: they they absolutely will hold that value.
Speaker 2: Smoke damage is common to that particular feature.
Speaker 3: Correct, Correct, because you know it was molded plastic and
Speaker 3: it hung in a bar, and you know that you
Speaker 3: would get the tar from the tobacco smoke that would
Speaker 3: permeate the plastic. And you know, unfortunately, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of nice pieces of advertising from the
Speaker 3: berrys that you know, but hung in bars for a
Speaker 3: long time, you know, you would get unfortunately that that
Speaker 3: sort of a dulling or a yellowing of the plastic.
Speaker 2: Right, what about neon? When I was doing trivia back
Speaker 2: beginning in the eighties, I was able to give away
Speaker 2: the full size cores silver bullet neon and what would
Speaker 2: approximately be the worth of that item?
Speaker 3: Neons unless they're they're from a you know, a unique
Speaker 3: small or or something you know, all the way back
Speaker 3: to the early days of you know, beer neons, which
Speaker 3: would be you know, the the forties, post war World
Speaker 3: War two into the into the early sixties. Something in
Speaker 3: that is going to hold its value because you know,
Speaker 3: so few survived, plus you know, the technology. But nowadays
Speaker 3: what most looks like neon is the LEDs where you
Speaker 3: have the you know, the tubes that take on and
Speaker 3: mimic what neon used to be. And for that reason,
Speaker 3: you you know, very few breweries produce actual neons anymore.
Speaker 3: Most of the technology has changed to LEDs number one,
Speaker 3: they use less power. Number two. They last longer, so
Speaker 3: you know, the glow is much much brighter. Neons over
Speaker 3: time would sort of lose their luster and they would
Speaker 3: dull obviously with the glass tubes. Once you would cracker
Speaker 3: break the tube, you know you had to have it
Speaker 3: repaired or you know it was no longer in use.
Speaker 4: So a ballpark estimation on your part, Well, I would
Speaker 4: say that the silver bullet when probably is one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty to two hundred dollars in that in that
Speaker 4: range is.
Speaker 2: Probably what Yeah, I thought, I thought it must be
Speaker 2: more than that. But let me take some of the
Speaker 2: phone traffic we have and let's go to Glenn and
Speaker 2: Brighton Glenn. Welcome aboard, hear it now?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Thanks? Yeah. Beer is one of my favorite topics.
Speaker 5: My favorite beer, I was telling Rob, the producer is
Speaker 5: do Sekis. Yeah, a friend of mine. Well, I used
Speaker 5: to like the ads of do Seki's about a guy
Speaker 5: that could mail a letter without a postage stamp and
Speaker 5: that got there anyway. And he said, I don't always
Speaker 5: drink beer, but when I do, I drink do Seki.
Speaker 5: Stay thirsty.
Speaker 2: My friends remember the commercial.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bradley Jay used to do his promos based on
Speaker 5: the way they did anyway, And now my second favor
Speaker 5: be Resizo. It tastes like alcoholic writ with gingerbread. It's
Speaker 5: called harpoond Winter Warmer. Are you familiar with.
Speaker 3: I'm very familiar with Harpoon. It's made by the Mass
Speaker 3: Bay Brewery guys. And you see a lot of those
Speaker 3: seasonal beers around the holidays where they'll spice them with
Speaker 3: with ginger or nutmeg or you know, any number of
Speaker 3: spices and stuff, and they're they're very popular. It's uh,
Speaker 3: you know the Great lakes Bury out of Cleveland. Their
Speaker 3: Christmas Ale is their their biggest selling beer.
Speaker 5: Wait, I had one more quick question. Have you ever
Speaker 5: heard of tree secies. A friend of mine went to
Speaker 5: San Diego and I guess it's not legal to sell
Speaker 5: in America because it's a high proof, but he managed
Speaker 5: this smuggle a case of it up here, and man,
Speaker 5: that stuff gets a job done.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Used to be imported. Yeah, well, it's not illegal, it's
Speaker 3: just because of the strength they choose not to bring
Speaker 3: it into the US. The importer Molsen Bredor was another
Speaker 3: one that was a very high strength from the Moulson Brewery.
Speaker 6: A number of the well, yeah you can still still.
Speaker 3: Get Moosehead, but it's not near as widely distributed as
Speaker 3: is Le Bat and Molson is from the Canadian imports.
Speaker 5: Levett is kind of like the Canadian pap Blue Ribbon
Speaker 5: or Schlitz there. You know, it's kind of a little
Speaker 5: green beer, four man's beer. Anything else going, No, that's no,
Speaker 5: that's I just had to I had to get this
Speaker 5: because beer is right up my alley.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the call.
Speaker 5: All right, you two pigs.
Speaker 2: Good evening. Let's go to Quincy and speak to Scott. Scott,
Speaker 2: welcome to night Side. You've got beer days.
Speaker 3: Well, what a great show.
Speaker 7: I love it. And you know, my beer has evolved
Speaker 7: over the course of my life. In the eighties it
Speaker 7: was the Moulse in golden and Molse and ice, and
Speaker 7: then into the you know, two thousands, nineties, twenty twenty ten's,
Speaker 7: it was the Corona, and then I started switched to
Speaker 7: COR's Light and as of January first, I'm drinking the
Speaker 7: non alcoholic bears. If you could talk a bit about that,
Speaker 7: like the Core's Edge and the Heineken zero zero and.
Speaker 8: You know and the IPA Hayes, what's the deal with
Speaker 8: non alcoholic beers and what are your thoughts on the
Speaker 8: better ones versus et cetera.
Speaker 3: Give it a go.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 3: Amazingly, there's a brewing company called Athletic Brewing Company. They're
Speaker 3: based out of Connecticut and they became they broke the
Speaker 3: twenty five top craft breweries last year and they only
Speaker 3: make non alcoholic beer. And lots of the brewing companies
Speaker 3: have put this, you know, put out a representative from
Speaker 3: that that category, Like you said, the Corpse Edge Honeyken
Speaker 3: Zero's Nheyser Bush just broke with a michelob ultra that
Speaker 3: is non alcoholic. You're you're seeing more and more of
Speaker 3: them going that way. One of the things that's that's
Speaker 3: working towards growing that is the ozempis and the govi's
Speaker 3: and that people are finding when they're on that medication
Speaker 3: that drinking alcohol actually he works in reverse and doesn't
Speaker 3: really coincide with when you're on that particular drug. You
Speaker 3: can't you can't also consume alcohol and have the same results.
Speaker 3: So a number of doctors have steered them towards the
Speaker 3: nonacoholic beers and We saw this craze happen in the
Speaker 3: in the seventies when there was a lot of pushback
Speaker 3: with the mad mothers in other you know, negative things,
Speaker 3: negative connotations towards beer. We saw a lot of breweries
Speaker 3: doing the non alcoholics, but I don't think we saw
Speaker 3: the the amount of it. You know, you can get
Speaker 3: a Guinness zero now, which is amazing. It tastes, tastes
Speaker 3: very similar to regular Guinness and it has no alcohol
Speaker 3: in it whatsoever. And who would have thought it Guinness
Speaker 3: would be a non alcoholic.
Speaker 2: Are gonna let you.
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks, thank you for your call. Thank you.
Speaker 2: One open line, grab it six four ten thirty eight
Speaker 2: eight eight nine to nine ten thirty. Whoever takes that
Speaker 2: line will be the third person Beer Dave will be
Speaker 2: chit and chatting with. I've got to take a quick
Speaker 2: news hit and Beer Dave think about this while we're
Speaker 2: off in the news hit. What is the most sought after,
Speaker 2: premium premium, most valuable beer item. And when we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll hear what you have to say about that. Again,
Speaker 2: One open line, grab it, darn in Somerville, Jym in
Speaker 2: Kansas City. You guys are next, Do not hang up
Speaker 2: during the news because you've already been screened and I
Speaker 2: want to hear what you have to say. And Jim
Speaker 2: Kansas City, I notice your last name makes me think
Speaker 2: of a beer company, and I'm wondering if a macrot
Speaker 2: will find out when we bring you into the conversation.
Speaker 2: Time Here on nightside nine thirty temperature Here on nightside
Speaker 2: seventeen degrees.
Speaker 1: Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I'm Morgan. I was just talking to Rob, my producer,
Speaker 2: and I said, we have one call on the subject
Speaker 2: of diabetes. I've got full lines on the subject of beer.
Speaker 2: You know, figure out what the people want and give
Speaker 2: it to them. So let's take a call from Jim
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. Jim, I noticed by your last name.
Speaker 2: Are you in the beer industry?
Speaker 9: Well, not that I know of it. No, probably not.
Speaker 9: There's a story there. I'll tell you off the air
Speaker 9: if you want to listen sometime. But no, I don't
Speaker 9: think our family was into it.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, because you know that name is a name
Speaker 2: within the beer industry.
Speaker 9: I did not know that now, but I wondered, I know,
Speaker 9: I know there's uh, yeah, I know that there's a
Speaker 9: famous part, and I wondered always how they got rich
Speaker 9: and famous, but that would probably be how. But I'll
Speaker 9: tell your stories off theres about my last name and
Speaker 9: about it. Well, I don't know where do we start here.
Speaker 9: I'm a collective beer can collector from way back. But uh,
Speaker 9: you to answer your question my favorite, I'd have to
Speaker 9: think hard because I had lots of Budweiser posters and paraphernalia.
Speaker 9: So my favorite collectible I don't know, but uh, my
Speaker 9: favorite can, my favorite beer can of all time ever
Speaker 9: was Iroquois because it had it was before the cans
Speaker 9: were crimped. It was a steel a straight steel can,
Speaker 9: and it was like uh embossed, and it had a
Speaker 9: Native American and the headdress and it had just a
Speaker 9: real nice can.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: Iroquois was my favorite can ever. But my favorite beer
Speaker 9: that I ever drank ever was a Balatine. It was
Speaker 9: kind of like a It was like a Saint Pauly
Speaker 9: Girl beer, only at like the price of a Schaeffer.
Speaker 9: I really loved it. And warns aren't the.
Speaker 2: Three rings?
Speaker 9: It was fantastic and those little pin stripes on the can.
Speaker 9: So but here's some other ones that stand out in
Speaker 9: my mind, Iron City Rolling Rock, Uh, Ducune Pilsner and
Speaker 9: one of the ones from over in the area. This
Speaker 9: is going way, way, way, way way back from when
Speaker 9: they still pulled barges on the towpath with mules.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: There was a brewery in our area called Star Model,
Speaker 9: and they brewed beer in bottles, and they came in
Speaker 9: like I think in a court a half gallon or
Speaker 9: a gallon bottle, you get it. In the bottles were
Speaker 9: these real tall, long necked bottles, and like fifty years
Speaker 9: after it went out of business, guys would still go
Speaker 9: down and try to find these bottles because there were
Speaker 9: worth hundreds of dollars the bottles were.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 3: In Peru, Illinois, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: In fact, this product in Iroquois. You know both of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Iroquois was from the Buffalo area and Starmandale was
Speaker 3: in the Peru, Illinois area. Ironically, I was driving through
Speaker 3: their day on my way back from Wisconsin. I went
Speaker 3: right through Peru, Illinois where the brewery used to be,
Speaker 3: and they went out in the in late sixties, that
Speaker 3: brewery unfortunately, but Iroquois Iroquois lasted into the seventies in
Speaker 3: Buffalo and they did. They had the Indian Head beer
Speaker 3: was there, and then they also did They also had
Speaker 3: a Tomahawk al that they also made, and it was
Speaker 3: part of International Breweries and they lasted into the the
Speaker 3: early seventies before they went out of business.
Speaker 9: All right, Jim, you call wait wait there was another
Speaker 9: one called oh yeah, Mabel Black Label. You remember that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, hey, Mabel Black Label.
Speaker 9: And now here's here's hello, here's something that something. The
Speaker 9: other day I was thinking about. I know there was
Speaker 9: a beer called Strows, but was there one also called
Speaker 9: Stores or something like that, Stroll Bulls or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yes, you had Strows from Detroit and Stores was from Omaha.
Speaker 2: Rules had those commercials, uh with the dog Alex.
Speaker 5: It was it was Yeah.
Speaker 9: Anyway, there was a guy in our There was a
Speaker 9: guy in our town that he would only drink stores.
Speaker 9: It had to be I mean he would go to
Speaker 9: like anyway.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, Jim, Thanks, thanks for the call.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, because he was gonna keep naming beer after
Speaker 2: beer after beer, Jim Law, Jim's line is available. You
Speaker 2: want to take it. Paul and Plymouth, You're next here
Speaker 2: on night side. Welcome to speak.
Speaker 6: Hi, Hi Morgan, how are you, sir? A good thank you,
Speaker 6: I and your guest. I was wondering, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: old enough to remember when Schlitz was the big boy
Speaker 6: on the block, and I'm wondering if you, if your
Speaker 6: guests can uh talk a little about what happened there
Speaker 6: and because they made some really bummed businesses and just
Speaker 6: all of a sudden went away. So I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2: Dave, tell Paul what killed Schlitz.
Speaker 3: So Schlitz. Schlitz started playing around with how they produced
Speaker 3: the beer, and they sped up their fermentation and a
Speaker 3: few other things that Unfortunately, what happened was when the
Speaker 3: beer hit the market, the product wasn't completely fully fermented,
Speaker 3: and the cans would explode and the beer was expiring
Speaker 3: on the store shelves and Anhezer, Bush and Miller came
Speaker 3: in and just ate their lunch. And in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 3: Schlitz closed their Milwaukee facility and they sold the brands
Speaker 3: to the Strawbery out of Detroit, Michigan, and Drove kept
Speaker 3: the brand going for about ten years and it really
Speaker 3: just faded away. The brand still owned. It's owned by
Speaker 3: the Papst organization. And they still still produce the brand,
Speaker 3: but it's nowhere near what it was. I mean strows
Speaker 3: are you know, Stros kept it sort of floundering a
Speaker 3: little bit, but the brand had been killed by the family,
Speaker 3: the Eeline family that was running the bury in in Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: and by the eighties the brand had lost its.
Speaker 2: Luster, all right, Paul wanted to hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they it is the same if you buy
Speaker 6: a Schlitz today, is it the same recipe or as
Speaker 6: I mean, not the bad recipe, but the same old
Speaker 6: fashioned recipes.
Speaker 3: It's what yeah, I mean, it's what it used to be,
Speaker 3: as close as they could do to make it that
Speaker 3: way with you know, the available ingredients versus what you
Speaker 3: know they were using in the you know, Schlitz in
Speaker 3: its heyday would have been fifties and sixties, you know
Speaker 3: stuff towards the seventies, in the eighties, you know, they
Speaker 3: were just jockeying for position on the shelf.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember when I was growing up, it was
Speaker 6: very popular.
Speaker 2: I'm singing the get together with a glass of Schlitz,
Speaker 2: a great big glasso slitch real gusto in a great
Speaker 2: like that was the commercial jingle that right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, then when you're out of Schlitz, You're out of beer.
Speaker 6: I remember those now?
Speaker 3: How about another.
Speaker 6: Question happened to schmidt Yeah, Schmidts That that was another
Speaker 6: peer that was a roun Yeah, talk about Schmitz.
Speaker 3: Schmitz was out of Philadelphia, settled back with Schmids and
Speaker 3: they had some really good slogans in that. And unfortunately
Speaker 3: it was another one where you know, the large berries
Speaker 3: came in and just ate their lunch. And and Billy Flommer,
Speaker 3: the last guy that was running the bury there in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: he kept it going probably longer than anybody could have.
Speaker 3: But by the about nineteen eighty six, Schmidt's of Philadelphia
Speaker 3: sold off to Islam and Ala was out of Lacrosse, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: And that was pretty much the end of it. And
Speaker 3: Hyama brought the brand but not the brewery, and in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six, Schmidts was no longer made in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: and when it was no longer available made in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: the brand really just nosedive out of existence.
Speaker 2: All right, Paul along, but thank you for calling.
Speaker 3: Okay, you bet, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Whoever takes that line, you'll be the last person to
Speaker 2: speak with beer Dave. All Right, because I've got a
Speaker 2: break to take, and that would be three callers to
Speaker 2: speak to beer Dave. Six one, seven, two, five, fourteen
Speaker 2: thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty and Rob,
Speaker 2: let's take a break a minute early and we've got
Speaker 2: that line filled. So no more calls. Time and temperature
Speaker 2: here on nightside nine four still at seventeen degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Rob Brooks, no more calls. I've got these three people,
Speaker 2: so let me make sure all three of these people
Speaker 2: get to speak to beer Dave. But Beer Dave, I
Speaker 2: asked you a question before the last break, give me
Speaker 2: what you think might be the most valuable premium item.
Speaker 3: I think amazingly, we've seen an uptick in the prices
Speaker 3: of beer cans and there have been a number of
Speaker 3: auction sites in that and last year we had a
Speaker 3: quart cone top from the Philadelphia area that was sold
Speaker 3: for almost sixty three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's not funny.
Speaker 3: The beer Yeah, and Friday, it's the beer can's ninetieth birthday.
Speaker 3: The beer can turns ninety years old on Friday.
Speaker 2: Anybody who has one of those at home, find find
Speaker 2: the buyer. Let's go to Edinburgh, Edinburgh and speak to Michael. Michael,
Speaker 2: good evening, Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey guys, great show.
Speaker 10: I worked in the club. I'm sorry, I apologize.
Speaker 6: I worked in the club and restaurants in the seventies.
Speaker 6: Was it true that the cous.
Speaker 11: And Bud had a agreement calls wouldn't come up here,
Speaker 11: Bud wouldn't go down on where they were.
Speaker 3: No, the deal was with cours. Course was not pasteurized
Speaker 3: at the time, and they didn't have a way to
Speaker 3: uh ensure the quality the further east that they went,
Speaker 3: so for years it didn't even cross the Mississippi. But
Speaker 3: you know, and then in the eighties they played around
Speaker 3: all the technology and they still didn't pasteurize it, but
Speaker 3: they filtered it differently and then extended the shelf life.
Speaker 3: So they felt confident to start coming this way. And
Speaker 3: then eventually they took over a brewing entity down in
Speaker 3: Virginia and they were able to produce it there and
Speaker 3: handle the East coast market.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, because that was okay, And I got problem.
Speaker 2: If you remember, that was the plot in Smoking the
Speaker 2: Bandit that they had to go to Texas to get
Speaker 2: cors beer because it wasn't distributed all around the country.
Speaker 11: Oh, that's probably where the story came from. Anyway, Two
Speaker 11: real quick things. Did the did bud light bounce back
Speaker 11: after that brewer brew? Haha, if you excuse me?
Speaker 3: Came back some, but not to the level that it
Speaker 3: was prior to that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I brought bud last week, I should have
Speaker 11: bought the bud leg and the guy said they set
Speaker 11: it's the biggest selling one where that store was.
Speaker 6: And then one last thing.
Speaker 11: Most people don't know about was it Gablings That was
Speaker 11: the first light beer attempt at it?
Speaker 6: Correct?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the Rhinegold Brewery and they called it
Speaker 3: the Forest Brewing Company because if the brand failed then
Speaker 3: it would not have been They didn't want it to
Speaker 3: come back and hurt Rhinegold, so they called it gambling Gers.
Speaker 3: And it was from the Forest Brewing Company and the
Speaker 3: gentleman that developed it. I got to know him quite
Speaker 3: a bit, and he and I worked on a beer
Speaker 3: recipe when I was a brewer, and it was doctor
Speaker 3: Joe Wadies. He's no longer with us anymore, but he
Speaker 3: was a very successful brewing chemist that worked with Carling
Speaker 3: and Rhyan Gold and a number of other breweries before
Speaker 3: retiring completely out of the industry.
Speaker 2: And two quick things, okay, two quick things Rhyinegold. When
Speaker 2: they had a product placement in The Godfather. Remember the
Speaker 2: scene where Sonny beat the be Jesus out of Connie's husband,
Speaker 2: there was a yellow Rhinegold delivery truck making a delivery.
Speaker 2: So next time you watch The Godfather, watch for that truck.
Speaker 2: And gamblinger is what they did to get everybody's attention.
Speaker 2: In their commercials. They put a slice of bread in
Speaker 2: a beer glass to talk about carbohydrates.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I thought i'd mentioned that.
Speaker 2: All right, Michael, I got let you go, but thank
Speaker 2: you for the call. Bye bye, And I got another
Speaker 2: Michael in Boston.
Speaker 9: Nice, Hi there, good evening, very.
Speaker 6: Fast, Thank you.
Speaker 10: I had a second thought, Morgan, for you before I
Speaker 10: asked my question of Dave uh and it's related to diabetes.
Speaker 10: I was just curious, are you restricted on beer, wine
Speaker 10: and alcohol or can you have it in moderation?
Speaker 5: Just a yes or no.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can have it in moderation, but I'm not
Speaker 2: a drinker.
Speaker 10: Okay, good, I can't have it moderation. Either any any
Speaker 10: of them. And today I wondered if he knew the
Speaker 10: difference in alcohol content between let's say, uh, a vta
Speaker 10: gimle or what a vut versus a bottle of Budweiser.
Speaker 10: What is the difference in alcohol content? And also what
Speaker 10: does he think the impact of this miserable uh warning
Speaker 10: that was given two weeks ago about alcohol causing cancer
Speaker 10: and when they start labeling bottles of liquor and beer
Speaker 10: are a warning to answer?
Speaker 2: Start there, because he's got to answer all three of
Speaker 2: you questions.
Speaker 3: Dave, so h yeah, Yeah, there's quite a bit of
Speaker 3: of attack on alcohol right now. They want to you know,
Speaker 3: basically they want to treat it like cigarettes. So with advercate,
Speaker 3: you know, with warnings and stuff, nothing's been developed on that,
Speaker 3: you know, to really move forward. It's just been mentioned
Speaker 3: uh out there. When it comes to the alcohol content,
Speaker 3: you know, your body uh breaks down different things. Wine
Speaker 3: is broken down different than beer, and broken down different
Speaker 3: than the spirits. So you have to realize, you know,
Speaker 3: and spirits are broken down in proof for measuring of alcohol,
Speaker 3: wine is by volume and beer is by weight.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: In the way they are mostly marketed out there, but Ideally,
Speaker 3: a twelve ounce can of beer is supposed to be
Speaker 3: relatively the same as an average cocktail, you know, not
Speaker 3: as double, you know, and not something that's used you know,
Speaker 3: with various you know, three or four different spirits to
Speaker 3: get to the drinks level and basically a four ounce
Speaker 3: class of wine. So you know, if you're consuming a
Speaker 3: four ounce of wine or a twelve ounce can of
Speaker 3: beer or an average cocktail, it's supposed to be equal
Speaker 3: across the board. But you know, it depends on the
Speaker 3: bartender pouring the spirits and that so yes, absolutely the
Speaker 3: spirit strength could pack a bigger punch than the wine
Speaker 3: or the canna beer.
Speaker 2: All right, Michael, you got your answer.
Speaker 8: Thanks you.
Speaker 2: And Jack we got you in. It was difficult, but
Speaker 2: I made a promise and you are the last call.
Speaker 2: It would be a d.
Speaker 9: Oh well, that's that's so fortunate for me. And in
Speaker 9: honor of the the anniversary of the beer can, I
Speaker 9: want to just give everybody a little to let to
Speaker 9: let everybody know how much we appreciate that.
Speaker 6: I might go to beer. I mean, I'm an economy
Speaker 6: beer drinker and I drink rolling rock, okay, And to
Speaker 6: me for the for the economy beer drink, and I
Speaker 6: think I think it's the best and and I also
Speaker 6: want to throw go ahead. Do you have anything to
Speaker 6: say about Rolling Rock?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Rolling Rock obviously was you know, there in Latrobe, Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: for all those years, and then when the Bat owned it,
Speaker 3: they eventually sold the brand to Anheuser Busch before le
Speaker 3: Bat and Nanhyser Bush got married. And if you'll notice,
Speaker 3: it'll say Latrobe Brewing Company, Newark, New Jersey usually on
Speaker 3: the packaging because they moved the production of Rolling Rock
Speaker 3: through the Anheuser Bush facility in Newark, New Jersey. And
Speaker 3: now it's mostly marketed in thirty pack cans of beer,
Speaker 3: and that's pretty much how Anhuser Busch markets it as
Speaker 3: something that's in the price range of their Bush brand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a great product. Let's also when
Speaker 6: it let's how about narrak Anset. I do drink Narraganset
Speaker 6: every now and then. It has quite a story and
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, beer Dave Narrakinsset was the monster in this
Speaker 2: area fifties and sixties. They sponged all that and they
Speaker 2: were a monster.
Speaker 4: They absolutely were.
Speaker 3: You know, you had Gangway for Gastt and you know well,
Speaker 3: and they had lots of appearances in the movie Jaws.
Speaker 3: That's what they were drinking on the boat when the
Speaker 3: shark started to attack. And you know, but now they've
Speaker 3: got you know, new local ownership and it's it's being
Speaker 3: produced again in New England and it's enjoying quite the
Speaker 3: resurgences it returns to the market.
Speaker 2: Hi, I never have again to give this longer beer
Speaker 2: a chance. It has that straight from the barrel taste.
Speaker 2: I could keep going, but I'm almost out of time,
Speaker 2: so beer Dave, thank you for coming on. As you
Speaker 2: can tell you are still a valuable commodity to have
Speaker 2: on the radio and talk beer. And we'll do it again.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Sounds great, Morgan, Thanks for the time.
Speaker 2: I look forward to the next time you. Take care.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, all right bye. Next hour, I've got dB
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