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Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number three hundred and seventy eight published on

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April two, twenty thirteen, and on today's score Zone Short

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Game Academy, The Wedge Guy explains bounce and what the

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proprietary score Golf vs. Soul means and why it's going

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to help your short game.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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Speaker 3: Number one predictor of a low score for someone who

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is shooting like right around one hundred and five or left.

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So maybe not at beginner, but someone's been playing a

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little bit. So if you could shoot a hundred and

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five or better, there's one statistical predictor of a lower

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than average score for that round of golf. Almost everybody

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gets it wrong. What do you think it is?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Fairways close, because.

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Speaker 3: The answer involves that this is a secondary effect.

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Speaker 6: So then i'd go greens in regulation.

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Speaker 3: Correct, greens and regulation. That's the number one stat It

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presents a problem though, because to hit a green in

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regulation or to hit a high percentage the tour pros

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today average around thirteen out of eighteen, much lower than

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most people think. When they're playing well, they might be

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sixteen or seventeen, but I mean the averages around thirteen,

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thirteen and a half something like that. The problem with

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that stat for average golfers is to achieve it you

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have to have a good golf slink. Most average golfers

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don't spend the money that's required finding a quality teacher,

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or if they do spend the money, they don't spend

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the time practicing it long enough to form a fundamentally

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sung golf swing. But for those people who do, that

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opens up a whole doorway to much improved scoring.

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Speaker 1: Power of six practice strategies with Jim Waldron.

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Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golf

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and golf professionals to how flower your score. It's worked

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for your host, Fred.

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Speaker 6: Green, Welcome back to Golf Smarter, Jim Fred.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be back with you.

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Speaker 6: Where are you in the world these days?

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Speaker 3: I am on the north shore of a wakot The

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next six weeks of sometime off. Let's from teaching too.

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Speaker 6: I hate you even more.

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Speaker 3: What you kind of do it?

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Speaker 1: And how are things at the Balance Point Golf School.

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Speaker 3: That's actually they've been really good, very busy. The summer

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season is important. We're already filled up our first school

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in May and we're starting to fill up our second

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one in June. Considering how bad the economy has been

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the last few years it's been, we're looking really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no bad economy right now. Stock market's exploding,

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apples tanking, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well good, Well, I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: And let you know, since we're talking about it right

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now and classes are filling up, why don't you give

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the u r L and let people know where they

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can find Balance Point Golf Schools and more about it

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so they.

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Speaker 6: Can sign up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Balancepoint Golf dot com. In fact, we're going

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to get our brand new website online, I think in

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the next two or three days or for sure next

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week at the latest.

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Speaker 1: Well, that means by the time this is published, your

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brand new website is ready to go.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and it's going to have just a lot

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more well a bit better layout, easier to navigate a

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lot more content, more photos, some video, link to our

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new YouTube channel.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we just talked about what a lot

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of you know, I still don't have one as we speak,

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but it will be up, but you'll.

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Speaker 1: Have you'll have it chan all ready to go. I

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just have no content. Yeah, well then you have to

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come back to.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna have to get together so I can produce

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some stuff for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and uh yeah, we'll have some audio files,

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some video. You know. It's good. The old website was

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got it. I don't think it changed much in the

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last like eight or nine years.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know you said the economy. You know, you

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mentioned the economy. I think it is better because everybody's

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redoing their website in two thousands, right, Oh, I'm doing.

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I'm redoing Golf Smarter right now, and we're going to

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make it so.

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Speaker 6: You can contribute writing.

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Speaker 1: I mean hopefully you're going to be one of our

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contributing editors here.

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Speaker 6: Sure, yeah awesome.

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Speaker 1: And then I also Green Creative. I'm redoing that one

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as well. But anyway, let's talk about golf please, because

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you've got a fascinating topic that I'm really excited to

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pursue and that you you termed as practice strategies correct.

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Speaker 3: Tell me more, something, something that isn't talked about a

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lot in golf instruction circles, to the detriment of average

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golfers especially, is how do you practice effectively? How do

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you take you know, because most instructions about what you

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should be doing with your club or your body or,

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in the case of mental game, your mind. Okay, so,

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but but you know, we also know most practice, or

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most instruction rather is geared toward, hopefully, if it's good instruction,

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if it's quality instruction, it's geared toward on the physical

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side of the game, toward forming new and dominant habit patterns,

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physical movement patterns that they are so habitual that they're automatic,

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They manifest automatic, and you don't have to think about it. Right,

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That should be the goal of anytime you try to

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make a physical change. As much as possible, you want

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to make that change be a dominant habit pattern i e.

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Something you don't have to think about, and that means

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you have to practice. And you know, one of the

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hard things about golf is is you know, there's so

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many different types of shots you need to learn to

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score well and to improve your game. And you know,

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I've always been an advocate of being very clear about

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laying out a practice point for every student, whether there

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are a lesson students or off school student. But it's

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a complicated topic, and it's only been until the last

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I don't know year or so I felt I've kind

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of got a really good handle on it because there's

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more than one way to do it. There's, you know,

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I don't know, half a dozen or so major ways

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you can practice. And so there's some rules for effective practice,

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and there's some sort of categories of effective practice. I

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thought we could talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, So I'm just kidding. I know that we've talked

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about this before. But does muscle memory fall into that?

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And do you buy into muscle memories? Some people think

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it's ridiculous and some people think it's the only way

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Speaker 3: You know, Hogan was actually in the golf world. He

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coined the term in an interview back I think in

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the sixties with I think it was a Golf Digest,

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and then in his last interview with Golf Digest, which

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I think was in nineteen eighty seven, he said something

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like I wish I'd never coined the term in an

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interview because what people took it to mean was let's

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talk to our body parts and try to get them

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to be behave better, which, of course is that stuff

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that superstitious nonsense that I've been critical of on your

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show on all the previous However, many times I've been

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on guests, I think I think it was my seventh

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pair and something like that. So that so that comton

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sort of the colloquial definition of it is wrong. You know,

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muscles don't have memory, and so talking to body parts

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is worse than useless. In fact, in the future, we're

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going to do a show on the yips.

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Speaker 6: Right absolutely, and that may we'll get.

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Speaker 3: The yips they talk to body parts, that's the pre

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gip stage. So that sense muscle memory is a myth.

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What it really is is that the scientific term is

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motor memory, and there's different kypes. There's three different kinds.

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There's working memory, which lasts just a few seconds, there's

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short term memory, which lasts you know, hours or a

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few days, and there's what's called long term motor memory,

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which basically is a dominant habit, which is as long

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as the back part of your brain where that motor

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memory program exists and the cerebellum is stays stays healthy,

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have that habit pattern to the day you die. And

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that's that's kind of what we want to have, this

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long term motor memory right right right, So you couldn't

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do it wrong if.

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Speaker 1: You tried, well, you know, when you that's just you know,

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so many people just go out and they don't take lessons.

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get ingrained. And then if you get to the point

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where I am now of trying to take lessons and

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relearn everything, trying to eliminate all the bad habits and

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and you know, mishits because of your bad habits, it's

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it makes it difficult to make that long term memory

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work when you're you're fighting inside your head.

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Speaker 3: People people often golf, average golfers especially, they have sort

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of like all the spinning the wheels sort of syndrome.

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or a golf school, or they read a book and

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they try it and it kind of works for a while,

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and then after a couple of weeks it doesn't work,

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and they move on to the next tip. You know,

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that just doesn't work, and that literally is like the

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hamster on the wheel and condemned to eternity spinning on

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the wheel. So what you need is an intelligent, strategic

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approach to how you a sort of a portion your time,

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especially if you're not retired, just still working for a living.

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you can devote the practice. And my whole thing has

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been the last couple of years is trying to come

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up with a way you can sort of cover all

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the basis of improving or at least maintaining your current

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skill level in certain the key areas. And this is

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where the money you know, the Moneyball book and movie

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we talked about earlier approach kind of kicked in a

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few years ago for me, which is, you know, not

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all goll shots are created equal. Some are more important

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in terms of influence on your score, much more important

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than others. And so you know, a truly intelligent, an

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effective practice plan would would recognize that as being a

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true fact. So you aren't wasting your time practicing skills

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so that they are not going to result in significant

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score improvement.

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Speaker 1: That begs the question, is there a least important shot

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in regards to your score.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a good question. I've actually put it

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in those terms before. I know, if I had to

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pick one, especially for average golfer, there's probably more than one.

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There are people right now. In fact, there are some

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PGA tour pros or hiring. There's three guys I know of.

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I don't recall any of these three guys names. Unfortunately

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it's out in my head. Otherwise I would give him

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credit that are doing some pretty ground baking research. One

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guy I know has been He used to write a

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column for Golf Digest. He's been doing it for over

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forty years. I would probably guess the least important skill

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to practice it's gonna be the least productive is pots

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between fifteen and roughly thirty feet, because as you're the

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odds you're going to make a putt between fifteen and

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thirty feet, even if you're a tour pro is very

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very much. I'm low on the probability scale, and if

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you're decent, not great. As long as you're decent at putting,

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you're not going to three put that often. If you're

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decent already, from between fifteen and thirty feet it's almost

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certainly going to be most of the time it's going

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to be a two putt. So you're not going to

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gain a stroke in that skill area. You're not you're

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probably not going to lose any strokes, right, So that's

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just off the top of my head. But from the yeah,

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you know, so here's here's what it is I'm going

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to start. I call this the power of six. There

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are six you can call it, you could say shot

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categories or golf shot skill categories that are extremely important

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for all skill levels, from tour pros down to beginners.

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Well maybe not beginners because one of these is driver,

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and beginner shouldn't be hitting driver because they don't have

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the skill. But let's let's say if you can break

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ninety five and you have at least ninety mile an

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hour clubhead speed with your driver, because if you're lower

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than ninety, you're better off hitting a three wood. You'll

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actually go further hand straighter than the driver. But even

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if you are using a three woods, it's one of

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the six categories of highly important shots in terms of

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influence on your score. Is your driver or again, the

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people who have slower swinging speeds of their three wood,

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and that's something that you know, great players historically have

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all said, I mean, Nicholas said it, Tiger has said

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the driver's the most important scoring weapon in the bag,

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Ben Hogan said it, Sam Steve has said it. Byron

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Nelson said it, Ken Van Turrey said it. And it

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kind of makes sense when you think about it, because

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most holes are part four's or part fives. You're going

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to use that to begin the hole, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because I was thinking that the driver

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may be the least important, but because so we're talking

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about the T shot.

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Speaker 6: Are we talking about hitting it with your driver?

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking to T shot. And let me go

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back and back a little bit. One of the three

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men I mentioned who's done research, and let's call them

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the golf statisticians, and I think the other two are

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either agreeing with this or close to agreeing with it.

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He said, the number one predictor of a low score

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for someone who is I think he said, shooting like

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right around one hundred and five or less. So maybe

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not a beginner, but someone's been playing a little bit.

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Who you know those if you can shoot one hundred

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and five or better, there's one predictor one statistical predictor

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of a lower than average score for that round of golf.

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Almost everybody gets it wrong. What do you think it is?

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Speaker 6: Fair ways?

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Speaker 3: No close, because the answer involves that is a secondary effect.

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Speaker 6: So then go greens in regulation.

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Speaker 3: Correct greens and regulation. That's the number one stature. It

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presents a problem though, because to hit a green in regulation,

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or to hit a high number a high percentage. The

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tour pros today average around thirteen out of eighteen, much

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lower than most people think. When they're playing well, it

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might be sixteen or seventeen, but I mean the average

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is around thirteen, thirteen and a half something like that.

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The problem with that stat for average golfers is to

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achieve it, you have to have a good golf swing.

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You have to have a fundamentally song golf swing. Most

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average golfers don't take the time. They don't spend the

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money that's required on finding a quality teacher to teach

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them the fundamentals, or if they do spend the money,

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they don't spend the time practicing it long enough to

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form a fundamentally sung golf swing. But for those people

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who do, that opens up a whole doorway to much

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much improved scoring greens and regulation because greens and regulation

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secondarily implies hitting the fairway and hitting it pretty long

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off the t box with your driver, with your three

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wood and in the fairway. So the second category is

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fairways like you mentioned, but not just hitting the fairy

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but hitting it long off the tee is also a

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big advantage to scoring, meaning would you rather have an

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eight iron in as your second shot club as opposed

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to a four iron?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Which is the whole idea behind T and forward

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is to give exactly right, yeah, is to give everyone

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the chance to hit it with an eight iron in, yeah,

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as opposed to hitting it from you know, your three

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wood trying to get it in you know, because you're

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playing from t's that you shouldn't be playing from.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so anyhow, so that's the first one of the

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power of six. If you want to improve your score,

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you need to learn to hit your t ball club,

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whether it's a driver, three wood, five or whatever your

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skill level can handle further than you do. Now. I'm

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talking twenty thirty forty yards further an average. And I

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always tell people that if you're a male and you're

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between the ages of fourteen, and fifty five, you want

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to eventually get to the point and you're healthy, obviously

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it have to be healthy to do this, where your

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average distance should be at least two hundred and fifty

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yards carry enrolled, and you want to shoot toward more

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like toward two sixty with the equipment, because if you're

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if you're currently hitting at two thirty off the tee,

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and through a combination of working on your on your

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swing and maybe getting fit for a new and better driver,

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if you can get it, if you can make your

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distance go up thirty yards from two thirty to two sixty,

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you'll be hitting at least two probably three clubs shorter

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into the hole into the green, which greatly improves your

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odds of hitting the green in regulation because it's again

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it's an eight iron set of a five iron for example, right,

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So it's pretty important that driver is I believe, of

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the of all the clubs in the bag. Once you

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can break around ninety five. Once, once you're decent enough

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terms of your physical skills to be hitting a driver

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to begin with, it's it's more important than your putter.

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It's more important than your ledge.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you know, you're just crushing me right now,

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because I keep I keep telling people it's not about

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how far, it's about how us and I just how

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accurate you mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean not how far you hit it,

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how close you get it to.

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Speaker 3: The pin, right, it's yeah, and that's true. But but

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again it's it's it's as you know, it's easier to

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get it closer to the pin if you hit it

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in the far way and then out there and down

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there a long way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I just see people practicing with

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their driver only you know, you go to their driving range.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you don't. That's that I think that's the.

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Speaker 6: Most important thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think it's the most important thing,

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and here you are telling me it's now the most

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important thing, lowering.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the most important thing again, if you have

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the ability to hit it right, if you're if your

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swing is is decent enough to where you can actually

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get around ninety five miles or for sure ninety ninety

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minimum or higher.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he's got the caveat there, good, good recovery coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true you because some people don't have

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the ability to hit it, so they shouldn't be hitting

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it to begin with, but then you know you had

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them a three wood, so whatever, whatever, whatever, Whether it's

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a five wood for the really high handicappers, a three

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wood for the sort of the moderately high handicapped players

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out there, and a driver for the intermediate advanced players, whatever,

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whichever those three clubs it is, you have to hit

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that club with a fairly high degree of consistency in

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terms of solidness of contact, reasonable clubhead speed. So the

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ball and you know, being on playing with the square

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club base, so the ball goes a fairly long way

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and in the fairway or at the worst the crookedness

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is going to be is in the first cut of rough.

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You can still score well from the first cut cut

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a rough, right, you can't score well if you're hitting

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it into the trees, into the fairway, bunkers, into the

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water or obe. That's why it's not just long, it's

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long and straight, right, And.

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Speaker 6: That's when we get to golf smarter.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, And it's the other thing I always say to people,

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you never follow a bad shot with a stupid shot.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Yeah, you never want to have two

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bad shots in a row.

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Speaker 1: No, especially when you don't have to right check their

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go and stop it. Yeah, doc gebber your ego a way,

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you can't get there. You are not tiger Woods.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Anyhow, So that's one of the

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six important, you know, in terms of shots that influencer score.

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Then the second one is and I think from my

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research from my angle, I'm not so sure these other

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three the golf the golf wizards would agree with this,

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but it's pretty obvious to me that the one area

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that's the second area of and probably in order and

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it would would be second most important, would be super

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short pots from two to six feet. If you miss

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a pot from two to six feet, you're going to

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be pissed off, and rightfully so, because you just wasted

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a stroke.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's it's a very fast downhill breaking pott,

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particularly left the right baking putt for a right handed

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which are kind of hard to make. Uh, if it's

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you know, if it's not that kind of pot, it's

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more of a normal slope and had a lot of

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break and you miss it, you just wasted a stroke.

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So you know, there's things you can do to improve

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your odds of making those short putts, which we'll talk

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about in another episode because I know we're doing one

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on putting. But basically, if you're not practicing your short putts,

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you're probably scoring three, four or five six strokes higher

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than you need to. The tour pro spend hours and

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hours and hours. They spend very little time practicing medium

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length pots and at fifteen to thirty five foot range.

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They spend a lot of time on super short putts,

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a fair amount of time from eight to fifteen feet,

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which is often their birdie range, right, But the super

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short putts are to make par occasionally to make birdie

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if you hit it really close on a par four,

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or maybe on your third shot on you're a fourth

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shot on a par five, or maybe it's like a

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second putt on a par five, right, so you're making Basically,

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you're making par, and if you're an average golfer, you're saving.

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You're making bogie with that putt in the two to

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six foot range. So if you miss it, now it's

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a double.

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Speaker 1: Hey, can we make a new rule here? Can we

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make a new rule about the super short putts? I mean,

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you know, six feet, yeah, But when you're when you're

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playing with your buddies and you've got a two foot

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three foot or left and they say it's good, pick

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it up, right?

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Speaker 3: Can we just say I bet?

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Speaker 6: Well, I bet, because they want to beat you.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be eighteen inches or less for me.

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Speaker 6: No, I've had Yeah, that's good, that's good.

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Speaker 1: But I want to say that if someone tells you

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it's good and you go over to knock it in

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the hole because you want to hear the happy sound,

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but you miss, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: You don't get to pick it up and go, well, no,

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that was good. You said it was good.

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Speaker 1: No, if you miss, you know, I'm sorry, it doesn't

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count as a give me on that one. Knock it off?

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Uh uh yep, So just pick it up so help

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the pace the play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an important I mean, that's obviously an important

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people average golf. For people who shoot like say eighty

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five to one hundred, they're not good super short putters.

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They need they need to take some instruction on how

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to make those short putts, and they need to practice

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it right a regular basis and a lot. You know,

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you can practice that at home and if you have

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a normal kind of if you don't have like nineteen

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seventy five shag carpeting in your house. You can probably

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just do it at night on your on your living

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and carpet right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh twenty five bucks, and you can get one of

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those little practice putting things that has the ball return

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on it. And I just I have one in my

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office and when I'm on the phone or waiting for

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something to render, while I'm producing video or something, I'm

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just practicing my putting all day long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, here's the third category.

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Speaker 1: But before you get to that third category, and I

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apologize to the audience because I continue to interrupt you,

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but you're used to it with me. I just want

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, that's it. We we talked about.

478
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Speaker 1: We talked about being old hippies out of San Francisco,

479
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and Stuart Brand's name came up. So the Whole Earth

480
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Discipline it's called, yeah, the Whole Earth Catalog with Stuart

481
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Brand in the seventies and eighties name. We've heard he's

482
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recently done a new Ted talk which was fascinating. But

483
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Stuart Brand and Johnny Heller narrate his Whole Earth Discipline,

484
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an eco pragmatist manifesto, and that could be your first book.

485
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Speaker 6: Why not.

486
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Speaker 1: It's thirteen and a half hours long and it's got

487
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great ratings from customers on the audible website. So if

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you want to get this book for free, or any

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book of your choice, please go to audible podcast dot com,

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l E. Audible podcast dot com, slash golf Smarter. Thank you,

492
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my friend for the recommendation. Now let's get to number three.

493
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Speaker 3: Number three, which one of the golf stats. Guys calls

494
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uh and Richie, I just don't remember your last name.

495
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I apologize. His first name is Richie. He's actually working

496
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with some tour pros now. He calls it the danger zone.

497
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And I've been teaching this for god for fifteen years now,

498
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that there's one type of shot, but again pally for

499
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average golfers all it also applies to tour pros. That

500
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is almost always, if you're if you're shooting, if your

501
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if your average handicap is between maybe six and you know, twenty,

502
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especially for those guys, this this this range is going

503
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to cause you, is going to cost you some strokes.

504
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That's one hundred and seventy five to roughly two hundred

505
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and fifteen yard range. Maybe if you're a longer hitter

506
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average player, maybe one eighty five to two twenty five.

507
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So that's that's your three four five irons or or

508
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your hybrid equivalent maybe two three and four hybrid, your

509
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five would that's those are the clubs that cost people

510
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almost always, almost every round of golf, you know, certainly

511
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a few strokes per round. And the reason why is

512
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people again, people don't have the you know, enough fundamentals

513
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they're not fundamentally sound enough in their ball striking skill

514
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to hit those longer clubs both the required distance. Let's

515
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say it's let's say it's a two hundred yard shot

516
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for me, that would be a three iron, or it

517
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would be my twenty two degree hybrid. You know, that's

518
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a long part three. It's it's your second shot on

519
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:55,640
a long part four. If you're an average golfer, it

520
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could be your second shot on a short part five

521
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if you're if you're decent, if you're a good average golfer,

522
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a low handicapper. But oftentimes on these long par threes

523
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or long approaches on par four's, you hit it way

524
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short in the bunker, or way short in the water

525
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in front of the green, or you miss it wildly

526
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to the left or right in the bushes, the rough

527
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or the trees right you. So now you're scrambling to

528
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try to get up and down for par and because

529
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because it's you know, because it went in a really

530
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bad place, your odds are getting up and down, even

531
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if you're a tour pro are pretty much zero. So

532
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but you know, people don't. Probably how many times you

533
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see people practicing with their five, with their four or

534
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five iron on the driving range, they just don't, you know.

535
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And the reason they don't is they don't hit it well.

536
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And because they don't hit it well in the short term,

537
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it hurts their confidence. So they go to their eight iron,

538
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their six iron, their seven iron, you know. And I

539
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always tell my students, look, you know, even if you're

540
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not working on a major swing, change, just take the

541
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swing you have warts and all. If you work with

542
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the with the hybrids in the four or five iron

543
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and even five would and learn to hit those clubs

544
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to at least say twenty five percent better than you're

545
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,079
hitting now, that's gonna have a huge impact on your

546
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,359
score because you're going to feel more confident when you play.

547
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,920
When you when you have that club in your hand

548
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and you're standing over a two hundred yard par three

549
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,440
t shot and there's water in front of the green right,

550
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maybe bunkers behind the green and o b left and

551
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,319
a lot of trees and high grass on the right.

552
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,039
Basically you have to hit the green to make par right.

553
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,160
You got no bailout the area. You're not gonna you're

554
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,319
probably not gonna put a really bad swing on it,

555
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,359
at least not most of the time because you feel

556
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,200
confident because you've seen yourself hit that shot two hundred

557
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,279
yards relatively straight, say six or seven out of ten

558
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,880
ten balls on the driving range, right, because you put

559
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,359
the practice time in. So yeah, Richie calls that the

560
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920
danger zone. That's that's an area even for tour pros

561
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where they either miss the green badly or they or

562
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,160
they hit the green and trickle over the back edge,

563
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,000
or you know, end up in a bunker. Then they

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720
don't they fail with it up and down. So that's

565
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400
an area that the average golfers just don't practice and

566
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they should be m.

567
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Speaker 6: Hmm, excellent, excellent advice.

568
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: And and don't just and don't just swing the club

569
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to swing the club, pick a target, I mean you should.

570
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And put alignment sticks down on the ground

571
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so you know you're aiming where you think you are.

572
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You'll never see a pro practice that was without an

573
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alignment stick on the ground. They always they always use them.

574
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Any else. That's pretty important. Number four of the power

575
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,160
of six is the mental game, particularly what I call

576
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the art of shot making, which is what happens from

577
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,880
the beginning of your preshot routine when you're standing behind

578
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920
the ball and you've picked your club. That's when the

579
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creative you know, sort of the art of shot making

580
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240
starts right and it and it lasts all the way

581
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through your golf swing until you arrive at at the

582
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finish of your swing. And the part that's really important

583
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is how your mind I'm talking conscious mind here, not subconscious,

584
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,839
how your conscious mind is working from right before you

585
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,240
trigger your takeaway, throughout the entire back swing, through the

586
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,519
entire forwards wing you're finished. Because it's within the swing

587
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,559
motion itself that you can sabotaze yourself by causing some

588
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,759
form of a mistake like a flinch or a yip,

589
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,960
or a deceleration or an over acceleration or hit impulse

590
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,839
or scooping impulse or steering impulse right just because those

591
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,279
If your mind is not working properly, it's not focusing

592
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:28,240
where it should be focusing, something bads can happen, for sure,

593
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,799
to disrupt your body motion, which disrupts your club motion,

594
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,480
which disrupts your impact, which creates a bad shot that

595
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,359
you're trying to avoid in the first place. So that

596
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000
basically means you have to have a consistent preshot routine.

597
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,640
Number one. Number two, you have to learn how to

598
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,079
focus your mind. Most people have what we call wandering minds, right,

599
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680
and there's that just basically means pick one thing could

600
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,519
be the target. For example, could be your grip pressure,

601
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:58,319
could be rhythm, could be tempo. There's a number of

602
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,519
things that could be theoretically.

603
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Speaker 1: Oh man, would Alpha Brain love it if I were

604
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to come in and do a plug for their product

605
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,200
right about now? And that's not that I just didn't

606
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,839
do that. They'll be happy with it. I just mentioned

607
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to help your mental game or forget Alpha Brain. But

608
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,359
you know, metal game has been the crux of my program,

609
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,519
my content from the very beginning. I've always felt that, Yeah,

610
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is that. I just think that if you have that

611
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,759
kind of a game, if you understand it, you don't

612
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,519
beat yourself up, you don't become your worst enemy. As

613
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:35,720
doctor Joe Parent would say, then you're gonna lower your scores.

614
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question. And the key is to have

615
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only one focal point per swing. And there are a

616
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,839
couple exceptions to that, but for my students, they have

617
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to be about five. Handicaps are better where they had

618
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one on the back swing and they switch to a

619
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second one and the forward swing but that's again only

620
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,039
for advanced players everybody else, if you're about a six

621
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,799
handicap or higher, you should have one one focus for

622
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,680
your mind that your mind is engaged with from about

623
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one second before you start your back swing and it

624
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200
stays with that one thing all the way to your finish.

625
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,599
You know, it sounds easy right when we talk about it,

626
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,960
but for most people and when they first practice this,

627
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,519
it's very very difficult. That could be a whole episode.

628
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again for those who have not tried to

629
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get alpha brain, really, I know for me, it's just

630
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,599
it helps quiet all that extra noise in your head.

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you gotta have. You can't. You can't have

632
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,079
a noisy mind to play good golf.

633
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,359
Speaker 1: Right, right, And we've had Matt every I don't know who,

634
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:31,799
if you know who Matt every is, well, he's he's

635
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:33,559
all over alpha brain. And we've had him on the

636
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,599
show a number of times now talking about it, and

637
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:38,359
he says that it's it.

638
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Speaker 4: It.

639
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: The year that he started taking Alpha brain, he went

640
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from a five hundred thousand dollars year of winnings to two.

641
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 6: Million dollars one Yeah, yeah, very impressive.

642
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,599
Speaker 1: Now, listen, before we get to number five and number

643
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,000
six the classic t's. We've hit our thirty minute mark,

644
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,960
so can we stick around and do part two on

645
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:01,319
members only episode for next week?

646
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, love, all right.

647
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,519
Speaker 6: So we'll do five and six and then let's talk

648
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,480
about the It's not going to.

649
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:11,319
Speaker 3: Take long to present the inflammation on on five and six.

650
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But what I really really gets interesting is how you

651
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,519
can design your own practice program. So you're covering all

652
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:18,240
six of these.

653
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,079
Speaker 1: Okay, So Jim, stick around and we're going to do

654
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,599
Golf Smarter for members only coming up soon. Thanks so

655
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,599
much for green to do that.

656
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,279
Speaker 5: You bet.

657
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:32,079
Speaker 3: Thanks.

658
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Speaker 1: It's time once again for the score Zone Short Game

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Speaker 6: Terry, how are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing fine? For it? Are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well?

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Speaker 6: This is the segment where you get.

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Speaker 1: To answer the question that has been submitted by a

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Speaker 1: They're going to receive a customized score forty one sixty

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681
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going to change the way you approach the greens. It's

682
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:38,200
just it's a It's an amazing club and the more

683
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,839
we learn, the better we get. Anyway, this question comes

684
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in from tac Teoyama of San Jose, California, and he's

685
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,119
done his research. He says, he hears a lot about

686
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,400
the VSOL grind and many of your customers comment on

687
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,759
the need to learn.

688
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: How to use this grind.

689
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: So his question is what is so unique about the

690
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:03,039
grind and how does it benefit different shots? In other words,

691
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,720
he says, what needs to be learned from your v

692
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,519
SOLE grind?

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Speaker 4: Well talk, I think first appreciate you of sending in

694
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your question.

695
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,679
Speaker 5: Glad you've been doing your homework.

696
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 4: We get a lot of questions about the VSOL and

697
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,760
some of that I don't know where you're reading about

698
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,199
the customers commenting.

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Speaker 5: On the need to learn.

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Speaker 4: But this soul reacts in the turf differently than any

701
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,000
other wedge on the market. And when I say you

702
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,960
need to learn how to use it, what really mean

703
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,519
is you need to understand or experience this new field.

704
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,039
This club rejects out of the turf differently. And let

705
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:39,079
me try to explain.

706
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,599
Speaker 5: Conventional wedge design.

707
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: Has The manufacturers offer a wide range of bounces and

708
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
low bounces and high bounces and tour grinds and all

709
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
of this thing. And my experiences is what we hear

710
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,840
day after day, week after week is people are very confused.

711
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 5: What we do know is that a higher bounce.

712
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: Angle do help get the ball out I get the

713
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,960
club out of softer turf and fluffy your lies. Conversely,

714
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,000
a low bounce angle is more effective when the ball

715
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,840
is sitting tied on a close crop fairway or our

716
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,599
firmer turf for hardpan or wet sand. So the industry

717
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:19,639
has offered us these multiple options for years, but we

718
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,519
have to make a choice in the store for the

719
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:24,480
grind that we want to take to the course. And

720
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,760
yet we don't know what our next lie is going

721
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,920
to look like. And I felt like, well, then that

722
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,039
doesn't make optional various grinds a very good solution, because

723
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,280
I can't carry all of them. It was on a

724
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,719
trip to Scotland a number of years ago, back in

725
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,760
nineteen ninety to be exact, that I encountered the firm

726
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,159
turf of the UK and I had a sandwich and

727
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,599
found it to be a very ineffective tool around the

728
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:52,280
greens at Saint Andrews because the first day we were there,

729
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,760
because the ground is so firm, and this big soul

730
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,079
sand wedge was bouncing into the middle of the ball

731
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,719
and not performing well. I went down the street to

732
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,599
mister Octorlney's golf shop and asked if I could use

733
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,639
his grinder. I just had this idea, and I ground

734
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,800
the back part of the soul down to where it

735
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,079
had much less bounce, but I left that steep bounce

736
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,000
angle in the front and then even exended that a

737
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,079
little bit and ground.

738
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: Out a little of the leading edge. Really ugly up

739
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,559
my wedge quite a bit.

740
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: But what I found is I had created a club

741
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,119
that would kind of glide along the turf rather than

742
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,679
bounce off of it when the lie was tight. But

743
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,760
yet when I would get into one of these softlies

744
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,760
or get into a bunker, this club still had almost

745
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,360
all the effectiveness that I had had before I ground

746
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,920
away on it. So that got me back to the

747
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,039
workshop and grinding when I got back, and that's where.

748
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: The v soule was born.

749
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: You don't really have to learn how to use it

750
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,880
differently other than you hit some shots with it and

751
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,960
watch what the ball does because of this soul and

752
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,199
feel how this soul interacts with the turf, which then

753
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,159
helps you understand what you can do with it to

754
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,000
hit the kind of shots you want to hit, and

755
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:07,559
to experiment and broaden your repertoire, so to speak. I

756
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,840
hope that kind of explains that, But it's not some

757
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,679
radically different thing that requires an owner's manual. But it

758
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,079
does give you more opportunities to try different things. And

759
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,199
you can hood down a wedge, for example, a little

760
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:24,119
bit and still hit really good shots off a tight turf,

761
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480
And even if it's a little soft, if you hood

762
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,159
down a conventional low bounce wedge, you're going to hoot

763
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,679
all the bounce out of it, and you're going to

764
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,880
turn it into just a ditch digger.

765
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: By the same.

766
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,119
Speaker 4: Token, if you get into a tight line, you lay

767
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,360
it open a little bit. With a conventional wedge, you're

768
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440
accenting that high bounce and really making it a dangerous

769
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,920
tool for that tight lie. And this vesole doesn't elevate

770
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,320
your leading edge as much, so it won't skip up

771
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,599
into the ball. Don't be afraid of the vesol because

772
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,880
you think you have to learn something new. Be drawn

773
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,760
to the vesole because it lets you learn something new

774
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,559
and different ways to hit different shots. And two of

775
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:06,679
my favorite lines that customers gave us. One was the

776
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,039
V soul It never met a lie it didn't like,

777
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,679
and we didn't come up with that. Our customers came

778
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,000
up with that and said it was okay if we

779
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:18,079
started using it. And the other one is I had

780
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:23,079
a customer say it forgives my mistakes, but it doesn't

781
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:24,679
get in the way of what I know how to do.

782
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,320
So it's a versatile soul. The V stands for the shape,

783
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,760
the V stands for versatility, and we were trying to

784
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,480
create a soul and we did which really didn't There

785
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,039
isn't a lie out there that this soul doesn't like,

786
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:42,360
and we invite you to try them. We have trial program.

787
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:43,800
You know, we'll put a club in your hands and

788
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,679
let you see for yourself what it's capable of doing.

789
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: I hate to open a can of worms on this one, Terry.

790
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,639
But with all the different lies that you're talking about,

791
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,239
how do we practice those? Tell me, you know, going

792
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719
a practice session with these wedges, because you know, people

793
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,800
are expecting to go out with their news score golf

794
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,719
wedges and be able to pull these off, but they

795
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,360
don't get the feel for the club. So what would

796
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,920
you recommend being practice sessions with these clubs and different

797
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,280
lies and how to take advantage of that.

798
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:21,639
Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a couple of ways to it. It

799
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,559
depends on where you play your golf. I'm very fortunate

800
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,000
along to private club, but we don't have very big crowds.

801
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,679
And one of my favorite exercises is in the late

802
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,280
evening to throw my bag on my shoulder and take

803
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,199
about an hour to play three holes and around each green.

804
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,599
I just take a couple of wedges and three or

805
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,840
four balls and I just work my way around that green,

806
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000
chipping and pitching from different lives, bunkers up hillside hill

807
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,119
bear fluffy, because that's a real course condition.

808
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: If you it's really worth a green.

809
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: Fee to go out in the very twilight and don't

810
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280
worry about getting nine holes in and shooting a score.

811
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,800
Worry about getting your two hours on the golf course

812
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,719
that you paid for and practice. There's no substitute for

813
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,840
practicing your short game on the golf course, because those

814
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,519
are real conditions that you're going to encounter. But another

815
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,599
option is to take your wedges and go over to

816
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,440
a school yard or somewhere that isn't manicured like a

817
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,880
golf course, and you can find areas where the kids

818
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,800
have been running around that's pack tighter and the heck,

819
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,840
you can find areas that are fluffy over by the

820
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,079
fencer where the kids don't play, and you can find

821
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:27,280
all different kinds of turf and just hit shots off

822
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,639
of that little soft shots and watch how the club

823
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,360
reacts to the turf, watch how the ball reacts to

824
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,920
the club. You don't have to practice your short game

825
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,920
necessarily on the golf course, but what you're trying. There's

826
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,400
two elements of practicing your short game scoring shots. One

827
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719
element is practicing your technique, which you can do on

828
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,280
the driving range, just chipping balls around on the driving range,

829
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,119
practicing your tempo, practicing ball contact. And then the other

830
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,760
part of practicing is practicing in real situations. Where as

831
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
I described earlier, you go out on the golf course

832
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,519
with if you're lucky enough to live on a golf course,

833
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,480
just go round on the green that's close to your house,

834
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,800
but late in the evening, or take your bag. Like

835
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,159
I said, play tree holes, but don't worry about score.

836
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,280
You're you're practicing this session and it's worth that twilight

837
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239
nine whole green feet to get that golf course to

838
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,320
yourself for a couple hours, and you know, go play

839
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,400
that hole and chip around on a green, and you know,

840
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,880
if it's not all that crowded an evening. And I understand,

841
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,960
I'm fortunate that I play in this kind of facility.

842
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,400
But where there's a will, there's a way dog And Fred,

843
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,079
it was my question, you don't get a free wad.

844
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:33,360
You already got a hold bagage yell.

845
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 5: You know.

846
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,159
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because it made me think about if

847
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,519
you're lucky enough to work at a range that it's

848
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:45,039
a grass range. I know that I never do this,

849
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,760
but I should practicing and hitting out of all those divots.

850
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,199
I mean, I'm always looking for the nicest, fluffiest piece

851
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,320
of grass to hit from, but maybe I should just

852
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,519
be dropping balls in divots and all the crap that's

853
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,280
sitting around the well.

854
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: Go down to one end of the range or the

855
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,559
other where you can practice off the mode T line

856
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,639
and you can throw some balls over in that unmode

857
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,400
rough area. And typically you can find a place over

858
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,079
there where maybe the guy drives the mower back and

859
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,400
forth from the maintenance barn that's mowed down pretty tight

860
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,960
and kind of pack tight from being trafficked on. And

861
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,559
most people aren't going to care if you go hit

862
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,840
a few balls from there and you're not really hitting

863
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,719
full shots all the time. Is you know these where

864
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,079
the club reacts to the ball and the turf is

865
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,320
most critical at the slower club edd speeds.

866
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:35,079
Speaker 6: And the other thing that.

867
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:40,639
Speaker 1: I think would be of great value is when you're

868
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,400
out doing that, don't just practice your swing.

869
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 6: Pick a target.

870
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Focus on the target, right, especially when you're talking about

871
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,559
short game, is not just swing swing, swing, but see

872
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,079
how consistently you can get to the target that you

873
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,079
want to get to, and then pick various targets.

874
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 5: Well, that's what I was talking about.

875
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 4: You know, you go to the practice range to practice

876
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,559
your swing and your mechanics and your technique. When you're

877
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,519
on the golf course doing this kind of practice, you're

878
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:08,440
practicing your visualization skills, your ability to picture a shot,

879
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,559
your ability to make the ball do what you wanted

880
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,679
it to do. Don't practice blindly. Practice with a mission

881
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,400
and practice with a vision and practice every shot have

882
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,400
a goal for that, you know, and picture the trajectory.

883
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,039
And you know, doctor David Cook is so big on

884
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:28,400
visualization and his book Golf Sacred Journey Seven Days in

885
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,280
Utopia is a fabulous story and for all of us

886
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,960
for life, business and golf. But his one of his

887
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,760
big lines is the game is played in front of

888
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,880
the ball. Everything that's getting ready to happen is where

889
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,920
the game is played, not that which just happened.

890
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: Very interesting, Well this is this again.

891
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:52,519
Speaker 1: What I love about this partnership that Golf Smarter and

892
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,840
score Golf has is that we're not just throwing out

893
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,760
commercials here to say go out and buy these new

894
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,480
wedges because they're really great. No, these are scoring clubs

895
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480
that we want to eat. You about and we want

896
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:03,719
to help you learn how to get better. And I

897
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,280
just really appreciate the time that you've put into this.

898
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,679
Speaker 6: Thank you.

899
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's my pleasure. I enjoy talking to golfers, whether

900
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:13,320
it's direct one on one or or one on a

901
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,440
bunch as we do here, and we always have an

902
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,360
opportunity for somebody to get interaction with us. And my

903
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:23,039
world revolves around helping people play better. I think the

904
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,199
game the better you play, the more fun it is.

905
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,719
And I never met a golfer said well, I'm as

906
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,159
good as.

907
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:28,599
Speaker 5: I want to be.

908
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: I've never met that guy yet.

909
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: And I've only met one guy ever who says, yeah,

910
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,320
I'm a good golfer.

911
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,559
Speaker 4: You know right, Yeah, No, I'm not very good. I'm

912
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,519
as shoot about eighty, well really good. You're about the

913
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:40,960
top wolves and the golfers in the world.

914
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:41,199
Speaker 5: End.

915
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then what about those guys in the turt

916
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,960
And yeah it was okay. I had a couple of

917
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,960
good putts today, but I only shot you know, a

918
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:49,719
sixty eight.

919
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: You know, it's like, come on, leave me alone.

920
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,559
Speaker 4: But I mean, no, you never and John Madden in

921
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,480
one of the best lines, you never get golf, I mean,

922
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,599
no matter how good you play, you always can see God.

923
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,360
But I have that three poot on twelve, or man

924
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,719
if I wouldn't have missed that fairway on nine, or

925
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,519
there's always something and that's what makes golf so wonderful.

926
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,679
Speaker 1: And the years that I spent I actually, I don't

927
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:12,239
know if I've told you this, but I spent three

928
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,800
years as John Madden's engineer. And we talked a lot

929
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,599
about it because neither of us were playing golf at

930
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,639
the time. And he says, you know, if I have

931
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,519
my choice of starting a new sport and I had

932
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:26,400
to choose between golf and tennis, I'd much rather start

933
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,639
with tennis. And I'm like why, and he says, because

934
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:30,800
when you're a bad golfer, you're out there all day long.

935
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,199
Speaker 6: When you're a bad tennis player, you're done in twenty minutes.

936
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 5: Well there you go.

937
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,679
Speaker 3: Uh.

938
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: He was awesome, As are you, Terry Taylor. Thanks again,

939
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,159
Speak with you again

940
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: Soon, Okay, noise fun