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Speaker 4: About save satisfaction.

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Speaker 3: Sir fum eleven am.

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Speaker 3: Man like this man letting butterfly leaven and way big

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then in a forced Man and Gon call it a

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tree fall leven by a mile away.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You nobody see nobody.

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Speaker 4: Else you see.

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Speaker 3: You don't need no man.

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Speaker 4: You followed another and you.

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Speaker 3: Got back to back. That was the way, man go back.

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Speaker 4: A night on the panel, Lee, welcome back to the

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Jay Burton Show. How are you doing man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I appreciate you having me back on Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm glad to have you on you. You started

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a substack, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I haven't launched anything on it. Yeah that right now.

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I just wanted to just get it set up initially.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I'll probably start adding to it the next few weeks.

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Speaker 4: But uh yeah, yeah, the uh the substack algorithm is

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is narrowly tailored. Because I think it showed me that

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like sixty seconds after you posted it. I'm like, yeah,

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thank you, substack. This is what I care about. Yeah,

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I love it. Was surprised it seems to just be

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rage baiting me. Uh, which incidentally is how we ended

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up with the uh with the topic of this stream. Uh, Lee,

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I only bring you on to discuss the most aeradite,

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uh intelligent subjects, right uh gun autism, uh, the Italians

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and uh you know, I think you and I both

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have an appreciation for just uh you know, the best,

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our best and brightest minds, right you know, twenty per

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century progressives. Uh. I've got a question because I always

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see you interacting with these people. Are where do you

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find them? Because I follow like probably four hundred of

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these accounts on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. They just kind of, uh, come upon, uh,

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come upon my my Twitter feed. From time to time,

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I will seek out something that is juicy enough to

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like quote tweet or something like that. That's probably what

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does it. It's a I'm sure it's a Nikita Boer

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x AI algorithm thing that's just designed to team me up,

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you know, to quote tweet progressive.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of that, did you do the the analytics before

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they shut down Rock where it would tell you all

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of your internal tags on.

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Speaker 3: X Yeah, you know, it was all like this guy

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like ninety percent, like real, real weather machine stuff, and

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you know, I don't know. I I saw people kind

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of spurging out about it's not real, like you're an idiot,

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you know, and it's like, well, you know, I don't know.

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I understand that there are people who cannot parse data.

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difficult for like Facebook boomers to not you know, for

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them to realize that like this video of a seven

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hundred pound guy like rescuing a puppy while skydiving or

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something is AI. You know, the entire Twitter experience at

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this point is owned by x AI, and like the

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algorithm and the analytics and all that type of stuff

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is very heavily involved with the use of grock and

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so well, obviously it just kind of looks like a

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random and generic Jason output. It's probably like directionally true

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that some of the some of the algorithm is running

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not specifically true, I do think it's probably directionally true

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that many of us are still kind of rate limited

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was. It was interesting as well to

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see the map of both the tags, right, like what

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you were associated with, yeah, but also what your what

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your crimes were, right, So in my case it's all association.

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there's nothing to be to be garnered there. But you

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look at that and you're like, all right, okay, so

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that's the that's the standard against which you're judged. But anyway,

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wife found first. And this this is a very funny article.

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It's easy to forget that Stubzac despite being a free

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speech site, is primarily made up of the most irritating

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progressives in the world. You just never see them, and

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so I don't really know anything about this guy John

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lot about the separation of Church and state. Right, he

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wrote this book, the Separation of Church and Hate, which

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is you know, brother, come on, yeah. So he starts

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Gospels and another one from George Washington. Late you could

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could you read the attribution to George Washington.

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Speaker 3: That's good, George Washington, Kamma, who owned people?

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Speaker 4: But I mean, sure, dude, whatever. The big picture on

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this is that you already know what this guy's saying, right.

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He's going after you know, vaguely defined you know, Christian nationalists,

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whatever that means, throwing in things that don't necessarily make sense.

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But it is pretty funny, right, It's like read at

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Atheism in the Ear of Our Lord twenty twenty six. Addition,

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we're staying on brand because a large portion of this

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is airing his family's dirty laundry perfect where we get

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into both Catholic racial politics, which I don't tend to understand,

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and also making fun of h Italian New Yorkers, which

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you know is pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm always down for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, just to just to tease it, man,

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it's any directions you're you're probably not expecting, right, so

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he starts off. I like to begin and end these

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comments on Christian prejudice by telling you a bit about

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my paternal grandfather. Grandfather was a guy named Leonard sometimes

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went by Lenny, a real old school Brooklyn guy with

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an accent you know you hear nowadays only in old movies.

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He said things like cockroach and pronounced Broadway broad Way.

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several famous people. Later, as my grandmother's health declined, my

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grandparents moved in near to US Long Island and became

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regular parts of our lives. Leonard was kind and warm,

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and he dutally cared for my grandmother. He was also

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a prejudiced, working class white guy from Brooklyn and bigoted

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against many type of people. It was from him that

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I learned uh and I'll let you read this lee

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as a resident met that's good.

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Speaker 3: There's three things here. The Blacks cause all the crime.

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They quoting the article here, of course, did Jews kill

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Jesus Christ? And depotter Rickens take all the jobs.

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Speaker 4: So we're starting off here through three.

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Speaker 3: Like okay, before we go any further at best, we're

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looking at two out of three here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like one of these is I mean, that's pretty insutable.

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It's cut off to you wish one, but like we're ready.

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the Romans idea. So yeah, he keeps going on. Uh boy,

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just kind of thither. But he was also a devout

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Catholic who never missed Mass. But even at my church,

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my grandfather found ways to discriminate. He would receive communion

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wafers only from an actual priest and staunchly refused to

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take bread and wine from any plain clothes eucharistic ministers,

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including my dad if he were in line for communion,

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and Grandpa would see a civilian not a priest, which,

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by the way, the phrasing on that's very odd. Dispensing

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the host of his line, he'd abruptly switch lines to

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make sure he received from the real deal. I only

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take the Holy Eucharist from a Catholic priest, he'd tell me.

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I swear in my memory he called it the Holy Uterus. Uh,

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it's just rude to a dead guy who you're related to.

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that is that some sort of controversy, right, who you

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receive communian from?

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Speaker 3: I am I'm not a Catholic, uh like despite no,

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just despite my Mediterranean roots.

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Speaker 4: That's going to be awkward. Yeah, podcast, I really based

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this on assuming that you were Catholic and from New York,

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because you said once you were kind of Italian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I am a I am a Protestant, so.

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Speaker 4: Much like much like this masterpart, his grandfather just making

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rod racial categorizations. Yeah, that's the fourth one, the blacks

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cause all the crime, all the Catholics are at Italian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, but I don't understand why this

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guy would take issue with what his grandfather is doing here,

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do not take communion from a pastor like only But

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it doesn't seem crazy to me for a Catholic guide

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to you know, expect that I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It seems like a relatively reasonable thing. It also seems

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unrelated to SBC. Here a photo of Jesus Saves with

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the entire KKKA in front of it. Who you know,

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look like, I don't pretend to be a historian in

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the organization. But they didn't like Catholics. That's sort of

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part of their thing. Yeah, this is sort of a

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broad pastiche of everyone I don't like is exactly the same,

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and they're all retarded, which love Like, is this sort

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of analysis that I'm a big fan of when it's

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me doing it? Yeah, but uh from a failed serious

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XM radio host, it's somewhat hard to take the take

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the criticism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is uh okay. I like the idea

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that white supremacy exists on a spectrum, that's a historical

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that's an interesting, you know, interesting thing to say. I

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guess that. I mean, it's fucking stupid.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so a lot of this is just kind

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of general bloviating. Right, he's not a very good writer,

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for instance, like he's which is a minor thing, but

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like you actually see it here, right, both starting two

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paragraphs in sequence with the same word, and also starting

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things constantly with butt or and the M dash by

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leads me to believe that he used to a I

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to help him write this, because no human being uses

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and this does seem like kind of dog

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shit writing. When the first thing that you highlighted where

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it said that his grandfather's name was Leonard and he

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also sometimes went by Lenny, it's like, yeah, man, did

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you need to add that on?

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Speaker 4: Like this is sort of self explanatory, right, Like you.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't notice you couldn't have referred to him as Lenny

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Speaker 4: Just we could fill it in. Yeah. Yeah, his Christian

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name was Michael, but everyone knew him as Yeah.

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Speaker 3: His friends called him like okay, thanks man. This is

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you know, powerful writing, you know.

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Speaker 4: So he goes through this kind of you know, uh,

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vague history of quote unquote white supremacy which is attached

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to Christianity. He never actually proves this right. He talks about,

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you know, how how white supremacist violence is tied to

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those who quote serve Christian values. He talks about the

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Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing, the Charleston Church massacre, and

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the Unite the Right rally, which, like, I mean, look,

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I don't pretend to be the biggest Dylan Roof fan,

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but like you know, that seems to be a certainly

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a one sided reading, right of his motivations. But there's

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there's other just very stupid poor writing mistakes, like this

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section where he says, but all forms of white supremacy

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m dash the belief in the superiority of white people

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over others.

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Speaker 3: Like oh, thanks, yeah, yeah, I was wondering if you

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know where that was going to come in. That's yeah,

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that's very good.

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Speaker 4: So and this is a really interest point, right because

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I'm sure you've seen the memely right that it's not happening.

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the whole you will not replace us chant, right, the

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you know this thing that they said at Unite the Right,

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but also the big scary uh you know, replacement theory.

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in mind, because in the conclusion we see that exact

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same meme, right, come back around. So he goes through right,

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the the idea of you know, Africans being descended from him, right,

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and in fact he blames this for slavery. Right. He says,

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this is the whole reason people invented slaves because of

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the Bible. Uh. Lee, I don't assume that you're an

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expert on the subject of slavery, but can you think

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of any society that had slavery and didn't have the Bible? H?

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Speaker 3: Well, uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one or two?

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think it's Sorry.

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Speaker 3: The thing of slavery like that for for listeners who

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are not seeing this, that this headline is in like

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a like a bold section heading, it says slavery comma

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with ham.

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Speaker 4: Uh sorry, that's so.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just cycling through a rolex of like

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racial puns about food that black people like to eat.

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it's like if you're you're playing some sort of net sport, right,

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like a friend of the show car Camp, you know,

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he plays volleyball and it's just a lob right like

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right over there, and so you almost feel bad, right

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for just smashing a line drive or whatever, because it's

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too easy. You know, it's just right, it's it's a layup, right,

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You almost feel low for kind of stooping to that. Right, So,

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for instance, they go through this kind of very reddit point,

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like even in all caps the debunking where to begin.

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So they go through the kind of again very shall

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we say, inconsistent argument here. There's a very interesting point, right,

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because again you'll notice that the terms of who we

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don't like is constantly shifting. Right, we talked about Catholics

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at the beginning, we don't like them. They talked about

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the KKK. Okay, I guess those are the same thing.

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But and look, I don't want to insult any of

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my LDS viewers. There's a whole digression on Mormons, and

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at this point, right, these are like three completely differ

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emploints on the map. But this guy really doesn't like

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his grandpa and kind of just associates anyone he doesn't like,

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right with his grandpa seems to think, Yeah, it's very

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much the whole like Anarco fatherlessness to me, right, I

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don't think this guy's an anarchist, right, But it's the

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you know, leftist politics is just a rejection of first

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God then my dad. Right. So yeah, again going through

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the kind of you know, the history of like the

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LDS stuff, right where Mormons believe that the mark of

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Cain meant Black's skin. I don't pretend to know anything

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about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's also that's a common mistranslation the like

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I've looked into this, and the Greek like like the

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original Greek often gets curtailed at the end. They're talking

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about the mark of Caine's chicken, meaning if you go

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to a Cane's chick, it gets it gets truncated when

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you translate it to English. But in Greek it's it's

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very obvious.

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Speaker 4: The guy who started that gas station chicken restaurant is like, guys,

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I've got a great idea that's been sitting here for

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thousands of years just on the ground. I mean, look,

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I'm not too proud to admit it's sometimes gas station

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fried Chicken's pretty great, like you know what, like sometimes

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it hits the spot. It's it's not it's not high culture. Uh,

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but I would feel a little bit uncomfortable, you know,

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bringing that into a scholarly discussion on why my dad

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or why my grandpa sucks and I'm glad he died.

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You know, I think that it's perhaps best to leave

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that out. But you know what, this man swinging for

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the fences on his retarded Italian Catholic debt grandfather.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's really what this is, is that it's just

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it is swinging for the fences. And just like I don't,

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I don't know, I don't, I don't know who this

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person is. But this is bad writing, and it's a

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retarded premise, and it doesn't really seem to have anything

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to do with anything. This is basically like a cover

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letter for him trying to get hired at some type

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of think tank or something like that. Like this is

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this is basically just him accepting, in so many words, accepting,

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you know, the invite to to Shabbat dinner at the

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Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 4: And really the reason I've been skipping over most of

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this is that, genuinely most of this is just flawed,

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doesn't actually need to be there. It's just kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is all I mean, what what

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are we what do we got here? A core element

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of Christian nationalism?

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is the meat of it, right, This is

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this is the meat. This is getting to the it

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is happening, and it's actually a good thing. Right. The

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thing that I told you to stop being worried, to

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stop worrying about is actually awesome. I like it, and

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you should just die. This is basically the conclusion all

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of this other stuff is just him chronicling people he

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doesn't like who have said things that don't align with

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kind of modern progressive sensibilities and painting them all. Whether

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you know eighty five IQ Catholic house painters from Brooklyn

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that the Klan, Dylan Rufe, Jerry Folwell or Mormons as

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the same thing. Right, this is really just just guilt

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by association, right, just kind of tarring and feathering people

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by bringing up the sort of figures that are unpopular

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with the dozens of people who read this. Right and again,

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this term Christian nationalism again, it is sort of an

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empty signifier. Right. It basically just means everyone I don't like,

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so going into this and this I will well read

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a little bit more. Right. A core element of Christian

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nationalism is the myth that America was founded as a

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deeply Christian nation. And yeah, we may have dabbled in

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a little ethnic cleansing, some random occasional slavery, and some

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barely their segregation, but that doesn't matter in our golden

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imagined past. So look like everything after the yeah is

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one very painful millennial writing two. Sorry, America was founded

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as a deeply Christian nation, like the whole, like Christian nationalism,

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religion isn't really might be, but like it was illegal

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to commit blasphemy right like this this is not some

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like myth.

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Speaker 3: Right if someone like anytime someone tells you that America

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you know, does not like was not a Christian nation

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or was not founded with like that in mind, or

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that this was not the prevailing sentiment of the era,

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or any anytime someone is saying that, I mean, you

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can pretty much just write off everything that they're saying

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because it's just not true. It's just like okay, like

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you're you're setting this up like you were trying to,

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you know, work a premise here that is you know,

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not historically correct, because like you're trying to launder this.

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You you presume that no matter what you say, you know,

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I'm going to support George Washington. And therefore, if you

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make it sound like George Washington was actually George Floyd.

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I will suddenly start liking George Floyd. This this is

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the same thing that people do. They do this for,

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like the free market. Any anytime you get some like

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homosexual at the Cato Institute telling you that, uh, you know,

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actually Ben Franklin would want this chicken factory that employs

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your entire family to be shut down and reopened under

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Indian management with Haitian migrants. Uh don't don't you believe

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in the free market? Like this is this has been

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Shapiro telling you that, well, maybe you need to move

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out of your hometowns and accept that there's no economic

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opportunity because you're you know, you have been replaced by foreigners.

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Like it's like, okay, man, like just shut up. Like

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what you are doing is lying when you say that

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America was you know, not a Christian nation at its founding,

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and that the the you know, the the founders and

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the men who wrote the Declaration of Independence and right

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you know, the Constitution and all this stuff there. Really

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it was more of a you know, more of a

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loose conglomeration of you know, intellectual dark Web guys who

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just really really liked having libertarian debate. It's like, no,

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you should delete your account if that's like, like, if

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that's what you really think, Like if you think that earnestly,

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you're retarded, and so I don't want to talk to you.

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And if you're expecting me to think that earnestly or

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asking me to come around on that, then you're a

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snake and I don't want to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Well and again, right, you see this sort of facade

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of dialogue, right, this idea that this is some sort

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of genuine conversation. We're bringing some semblance of argument to

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the debate. It's not. He just hates you when he

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wants you to go away. That's really what it comes

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down to, Like all of this other stuff. The reason

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I skipped over it is because it doesn't matter. He's

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just throwing out random fact whips. They're unrelated to the

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actual meat of his article. I guess it is like

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what you used to do in school, right, where like,

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oh shoot, I have to write an eight page paper,

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so let's just like rephrase Wikipedia for six of them,

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you know, and then just like do something at the end,

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and what's the especially interesting And this will come up

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in a little bit is the inability of the left

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wing mind to realize they are in charge or they

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are in the ascendant in every way. Right, they constantly

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have to cast themselves as the victims. Right, even when

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this article phrased in kind of like, you know, disruptive

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or rebellious tone is quite literally something you could have

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written forty years ago and effectively receive no pushback for.

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This is the posturing as brave while repeating the same

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values of literally any institution in the country. Yeah, you know, which,

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honestly might be the thing I find most irritating about progressives. Right,

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They're getting to sort of burn the candle at both ends,

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right of getting pretend to play as a radical while

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having the same politics as vanguard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So carrying on. I hope I'm not spoiling anything here,

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But most Christians racists don't think their views are problematic, Lee,

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do you feel that your views are problematic? I do not.

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I that this guy's right so well.

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Speaker 3: But again, in this in the same way that like, uh,

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in the same way that someone might say, you know,

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my grandfather the name was Leonard, but sometimes he went

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by Lenny, they also say, well, you're not gonna believe this,

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But the people who believe something else think it's okay

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to believe that.

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, no, shit, man, yeah exactly if they

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if they thought they were wrong, they'd be on your side, right.

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Speaker 3: Of course, right, you know, it's like, yeah, man, you're

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not gonna believe it. But the people who fill trash

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bags with cosmetics and CBS and go walking out in

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the middle of the day wearing a ski mask also

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think it's fine to do that. Like this, Like come on, bro,

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like this isn't like this isn't even making a point

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about anything, like.

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Speaker 4: The idea of a deeply morally conflicted just like the shoplifter, right,

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like the guy who's just compelled by some foresigre than

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his own to steal to steal baby formula and sell

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it on the black market, not even prophentanyl or anything, right,

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just anyway, Uh, they'll tell you that white Christians built

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the US on their own and that anyone who uses

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woke race baiting terms like slavery, genocide, or systemic probably

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hates white people and that's why we need prayer in schools.

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I mean, they will tell you that are they wrong

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claims here?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah. That's the other thing is that every everything,

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you know, you see the Liberals go up and they say, well,

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the trouble is like now there are there are so

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many bizarre, like one off ethnicities that are here that

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you have Democrats who will just go up at a

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podium and be like, uh, actually, mean tribe of southeastern

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into China was fundamental in the construction of the United

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States because it's like it's like forty percent of their

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district's voting block. So you have all these like really

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really bizarre star wars like factions, and they all have

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to be told that they were like very fundamental in

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the building of like New York or something.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and clearly like it it's not true, and

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look like the people saying that, no, it's not true.

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But it's become sort of an element of like religious faith,

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right to pair at that point. And look, I don't

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want to sound too tinfoil hat, but I think a

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large part of the desire to erase the nation as

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it was right rather that be you know kind of

472
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like public monuments or statues or media even right like

473
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,839
look at new BBC period pieces, is the desire to

474
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,559
deny that things have ever been different, right, that this

475
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400
has always been the eternal state. We've always been this

476
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,359
like kind of multicultural nation of strangers. And I don't

477
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,200
think that's that's fully like rationalized. I don't think people

478
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,559
are waking up in the morning and saying this is

479
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why we're doing it. But I do think that's a

480
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:42,119
part of it, right, because it's plainly not true. And

481
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,359
when one of the core planks of your religion, your platform,

482
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,640
is very clearly connected to nothing, that's an uncomfortable position.

483
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,279
Hence the kind of ironically enough right revisionist history. So

484
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,400
this is the part that I think is particularly interesting

485
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,200
because if you remember, right, we were sured earlier that

486
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,519
this whole idea of replacement is horrible. Right, it's not

487
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,920
true the next two paragraphs. Then I'll throw a keketule

488
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,119
for all of our lives and our parents and grandparents.

489
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:18,319
White Christians have dominated society an influence in the US.

490
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,839
In the nineteen seventies and eighties, white Christians, including both

491
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Protestants and Catholics, made up a majority of the population,

492
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counting for nearly two thirds of Americans, but by the

493
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early twenty twenties this figure has dropped to about forty percent.

494
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White Evangelical Protestants, a significant subgroup, have also experienced decline,

495
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,200
shrinking to roughly fourteen percent of the population as of

496
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twenty twenty two.

497
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Speaker 3: Huh, that's interesting.

498
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,359
Speaker 4: That is interesting because you may remember, like ten minutes

499
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ago when we assured that that is not the case.

500
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,279
Not only is that not the case, but do you remember, like,

501
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,799
I don't know, a paragraph ago when it was really

502
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:04,559
stupid to think that white Christian people played a major

503
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,960
role in the country where they were the majority and

504
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,039
controlled all the power and right.

505
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's.

506
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: It's not like it's not like you have to be

507
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,759
a big, you know, a grand kind of scholarly mind

508
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:23,319
to remember what you read in literally the last paragraph. Right, So.

509
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Those are good points. I do want to go back, though,

510
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:36,519
So just to be clear, Lenny can be short for Leonard,

511
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,400
you know.

512
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,759
Speaker 4: What, and Lee, I got another one right in addition

513
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,240
to your your we'll call it the Leonard hypothesis. I'm

514
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,559
not entirely sure how it matches up with reality, but uh,

515
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,680
how do you what do you think if you asked

516
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,839
someone who disagreed with you, if they disagreed with you,

517
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,400
do you think they would say, yes? Or now.

518
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:07,119
Speaker 3: Mmm, it's tough to say. I feel like they would

519
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:11,640
be inclined to agree with their own stated beliefs, but

520
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240
I could be wrong on that. Now.

521
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:16,759
Speaker 4: Now, the third kind of open ended question I feel

522
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:20,000
like we really need to hammer down is, uh, why

523
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:23,920
why did the first murderer in history, right, a man

524
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,160
who killed his own brother out of jealousy for a

525
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,839
sacrifice to God, start a ghetto chicken place? Yes, well,

526
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:41,839
it's just an idea to kill again, but by the

527
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,759
tens of thousands of dudas, emphysema, and obesity.

528
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:49,079
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you know.

529
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's another one. I'm sure is every George connected,

530
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:03,880
George Washington, George Floyd, there's just one eternal George, likeeling

531
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960
through different bodies.

532
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: Right right, exactly, Yeah, the.

533
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: Eternal George. Today, a large segment of the Republican Party

534
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,719
base believe whites are the true victims of racism and

535
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,639
Christians are under attack, which makes a lot of sense

536
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,199
when you consider that the most popular religion has always

537
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,599
been Christianity, Whites are still the largest racial group, and

538
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,360
white Christians still dominate elected office at all levels, as

539
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,559
well as the judiciary, Corporate America, land ownership, media, control

540
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,280
and Renaissance fairs. So uh, minus that last one, Lee,

541
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,719
This sounds like something that our guys could have written

542
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,519
about an alternative group. Yeah, and that leads me to

543
00:34:50,760 --> 00:35:00,400
another question. Does Benjamin Netanyaho control the ren fair market? Yeah?

544
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: I think you know, I don't want to ruin anyone's

545
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,199
good good good time next time you go to medieval times.

546
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,880
But then the games are rigged. This is you know this,

547
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,480
It's determined in advance who's going to win the jousting.

548
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: And look all I'm saying, man, it's always a turkey leg,

549
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,639
It's never a ham. No, you're wondering.

550
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes you think, well, this is also

551
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,320
I liked that this paragraph is directly after the paragraph, Yes,

552
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:37,039
directly after, Like, it is one centimeter further down the

553
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,000
screen from the paragraph that says that you know, whites

554
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,320
have experienced a catastrophic decline in influence and population.

555
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,079
Speaker 4: Right after also claiming that they never had that power

556
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,119
to begin with. Right, So, according to this man, what

557
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,719
happened is there was a majority population. Uh, they got

558
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,639
all their stuff from slaves, right because of alternately the

559
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,639
mark of Cain or one of Noah's sons indeterminate we'll

560
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,800
figure that out later. They were in charge of the

561
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,400
country at the same time as they were declining, and

562
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,320
now when they've declined, they're still over represented, but they

563
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,320
weren't in power before when they were the majority.

564
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a non interesting position for this.

565
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,519
Speaker 4: Guy to be again, because it's not a real position, Lee.

566
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,960
He just hates these people and wants them to die.

567
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,119
All of the other stuff is indeterminate to that end.

568
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Goal. Well, it's also is not lost on me. This

569
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,719
guy is clearly much dumber than his grandfather, who actually

570
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,760
sounded like he had a lot of shit figured out.

571
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: He had at least three solid points. I don't know

572
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,800
anything else about the rest of him, but he had

573
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400
three solid points. Yeah, and it, shall we say, a

574
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,840
somewhat baffling view onlic Catholic doctrine. I was really just

575
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,599
I thought, by virtue of being Italian, you'd be able

576
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,320
to clear that up. You know what. We'll table that

577
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,679
for a later discussion and say he might have had

578
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,199
up to four things, right, we got at least three.

579
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400
The creeping panic of expecting no longer to be the

580
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,800
majority has led some of our friends and neighbors to

581
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,239
see Christian nationalism is the only way to get a

582
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,679
lost nation back on track. It's all about power and domination.

583
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:28,840
The movement is growing. It doesn't have to be huge

584
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,599
to be dangerous. Quite a few of these racists are

585
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:37,199
armed delusional and the process of completely freaking out armed

586
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,400
delusional and then the process of freaking out would be

587
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,880
a great T shirt. And Lee, you have a firearms blog.

588
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,079
Have you considered armed delusional and freaking out as maybe

589
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:50,360
a tagline for your blog?

590
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,599
Speaker 3: I should look into that. Eh, that's that'd be good.

591
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 4: All right. So here's another one, right, because he cites

592
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:04,360
this woman a laithe in the Butler Sorry, I was

593
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,119
not a name. I was expecting to end that way.

594
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:12,400
So this is her argument, right, because of racism, evangelical

595
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,519
decency was lost and evangelical's resentment grew. That makes no

596
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:24,400
sense because of racism. Their resentment grew because they were racist.

597
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,039
If that were the case, why weren't there Christian nationalists when,

598
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,960
as you said earlier, I didn't read this, but he

599
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,119
referred to the years after the Civil War as American apartheid. Right,

600
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,639
So assuming that there's a one to one correlation, as

601
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:39,880
miss Butler has informed us, between racism and evangelical resentment.

602
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,119
You would assume, right, that would be a high water mark,

603
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:44,559
right when there.

604
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: Were one would think, yeah, apparently not.

605
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,519
Speaker 4: Also, again, we're playing fast and loose because we were

606
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:57,039
criticizing Catholics before, not evangelicals. The KKK existed before the

607
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:02,559
term evangelical meant anything, right, and also the LDS, which,

608
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,440
like we could make a cultural argument that they're kind

609
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880
of similar. But like, again, this is just people I

610
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,400
don't like, So go back and forth. Right, this is

611
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,400
this woman, this expert, the woman who wrote White Evangelical

612
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,519
Racism The Politics of Morality in America too many.

613
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Words, I hate, I hate it. Interrupt you. You didn't

614
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,159
happen to look up a picture of Anthea Butler before

615
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,519
we started recording, did he?

616
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: Uh so, what do you think her tagle is on Wikipedia?

617
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:41,519
Speaker 3: Let's see, by.

618
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,079
Speaker 4: The way, you're right, you're entirely right. You already know

619
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,800
she looks like WHOOPI Goldberg.

620
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: She does this.

621
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,559
Speaker 4: It's like, that's not even me being rude.

622
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: Actually, really, this is a Sister Act situation.

623
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the origin for this whole thing. The basis

624
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,199
of Sister Act. Never saw I'm the dastardly white Christians

625
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,840
that control the media kept her out of her royalties.

626
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,840
So now she's just.

627
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: Every every picture that I've seen, and I would encourage

628
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,719
the listener. Uh and I mean this with all all due.

629
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: Respect, dude, have you seen the white hair?

630
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: All due respects to Curtis Jarvin, but if you picture

631
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:24,480
Curtis Jarvin as a black woman.

632
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it looks like. The jacket.

633
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: This is this is a form of in our ex.

634
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,599
Speaker 4: We never asked what it stood for.

635
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 3: She's right, she's not a monarchist. She is a moniquist.

636
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: Quite literally. We WI was.

637
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,159
Speaker 3: Like, this looks like someone that the GOP would run

638
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,480
for governor of in a state like Virginia.

639
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: Say, this is just one some EARLD series with a

640
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:17,880
slightly worse air dresser. The outfit's the same, although although look,

641
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,559
I'll pull this one up. Uh see if I can

642
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:22,440
figure out how to use this stupid this is a

643
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:27,559
whole like, look, I'm supposed to be an audio podcast primarily,

644
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,079
but half of these are just me pulling things up

645
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:32,000
and you guys not being able to hear. But you're

646
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,679
really really missing out on this line. If you notice,

647
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,679
she's even got kind of a a Thomas Turpule seven.

648
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,360
Look going on in this leather rack. Great hair, It's

649
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,960
pretty close.

650
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:46,199
Speaker 3: Man.

651
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 4: I did not look roughly, but I knew you can tell,

652
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:55,079
you can tell.

653
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean she definitely looks like as the

654
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:08,079
Curse of ham.

655
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: Caine's Chicken the Mark of the Beast. The beast is

656
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,679
a chicken, I asked her. Is there a way to

657
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,840
fix the movement, she replied, Evangelicals will have to become

658
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,880
more accepting of others, willing to let go of racism

659
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,679
and actually pay attention to the red letter words of Jesus.

660
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,320
Right now, I don't think there is a way to

661
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,960
fix the movement unless it has a crushing, decisive defeat

662
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,679
at its quest to make America theocracy. And that's it.

663
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,039
That's the whole thing. Right, you need to be destroyed.

664
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,599
We keep going after this right. But we're this is

665
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:54,159
the author's words again, we're presently witnessing the US white

666
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,800
supremacists finally realizing they're about to become a minority. They're

667
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,119
not going to go gracefully goes through demographics. So if

668
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,960
you're a Christian who's afraid of one day becoming a minority,

669
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,559
this might be a perfect time to be more Christian minorities.

670
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,400
So again, right, it's not happening. Actually it's a good thing.

671
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,519
You will be crushed right, like a full supervillain monologue there.

672
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what happened to Lenny? I see this?

673
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: It's Lenny comes back, and despite introducing him his Leonard,

674
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,760
he's never referred to as Leonard for the rest of

675
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,159
this article, making that detail completely completely superfluous.

676
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:41,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I see, I mean this is uh wow,

677
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,159
how long is this article?

678
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: We're almost done? Fulle okay, how many words.

679
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: Can you write about this? I mean this is insane?

680
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: How many words can he write? Very few? How many

681
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,559
words can claude? And then heavy quotes from African Thomas

682
00:43:56,559 --> 00:44:00,559
seven seven to seven at least forty two men of

683
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,280
uh materials or.

684
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: It's Clarence Thomas seven seven.

685
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: We found him. We thought it wasn't at it, but

686
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,960
it's actually real. Have you seen by the way it's

687
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,880
been going It's been going around again the word counts

688
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,400
of Supreme Court justices. Yeah, yeah, it's Katachi Brown's hit

689
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,159
like twelve k and Clarence Thomas had barely brokendred.

690
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: That's fucking nuts, dude.

691
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: Look, man, you just you just know, George Washington, who

692
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:46,199
owned people, would have become king if you knew, right, Yeah.

693
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: Like who who? This is the I'm always amazed when

694
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:57,039
whenever people criticize, you know, George Washington or whoever, they're like, well,

695
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,039
you know he owned people. It's like, okay, yeah, like

696
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:07,360
I'm familiar with the concept of slavery, Like, I understand,

697
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,440
what do you expect me to do with this information?

698
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,639
You know what I mean? Like, why would I fucking hear?

699
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:19,119
I haven't had anyone present a compelling reason why I

700
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:19,599
should care?

701
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:29,119
Speaker 4: Well, exactly right, because look like there are many people

702
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:33,400
I'm casting back in time further than George Washington who

703
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,039
did things that in a current context would be considered

704
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:45,360
slightly slightly rude. Right. Julius Caesar killed forty percent of

705
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,039
the population of France, for instance, and sold them all

706
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:52,320
into slavery. Uh, you know, which is considered somewhat of

707
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,199
a diplomatic faux pas in the current moment. We can discuss,

708
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,119
you know, do the French deserve it a discussion for

709
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:03,599
another day, yes, But the lens through which you view

710
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,440
a man like that is what he did, right, And

711
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,280
obviously the Gallic wars or you know, a face if that.

712
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,360
But you're like, oh, yeah, that's the guy who you

713
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,480
know kicked off the Roman Empire. That's a pretty big deal.

714
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,320
And you know the other stuff is just sort of

715
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,079
biographical detail. But look like this is a profoundly broken

716
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,960
way to view history. You know, it's it's the kind

717
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,039
of you know, joke about like what was Genghis con

718
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,800
bean to his mom. It's like, well, okay, yeah, maybe,

719
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,880
but like that's not why he's a relevant figure to discuss.

720
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,239
And again, George Washington has never mentioned except for you know,

721
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,639
a way for him to slide that in right, be like,

722
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,719
oh that guy, you like, I hate him. He's stupid.

723
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,679
He's like my dead retarded grandpa.

724
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know he owned people, Like okay, yeah,

725
00:46:54,519 --> 00:47:00,360
I don't know, man, Like even something tells me that

726
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,960
if George Washington did not own people, you still wouldn't

727
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,280
like the guy. I just have a hunch that, you know,

728
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,159
no matter what, there's not really a world where you

729
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:17,480
say anything positive about George Washington. And that is because,

730
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:23,800
like this lady's entire career, miss Butler, not the author,

731
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,639
is premised on you know, some type of word salad

732
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:35,760
about we was kings. White people are bad. Yakub fucked

733
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,679
up when he made him and his you know, laboratory

734
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,679
or whatever, you know, whatever it is that it gets believed, right,

735
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,920
who cares? And this guy? What is this guy's deal

736
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,400
with the author? What's his I think.

737
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,559
Speaker 4: His whole his whole beat seems to be like he

738
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:58,760
was big, like fifteen years ago in the kind of

739
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,360
like and T George Bush scene. Uh he has a

740
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,199
radio show.

741
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,199
Speaker 3: What was his name again? It was like it was

742
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:08,360
like a fake.

743
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 4: Name, Fugal Sang.

744
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: Okay, let's check that American actor.

745
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: Dude, he looks like a he looks like a professional magician.

746
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah he yeah, he does. Yeah, this is uh yeah. Television,

747
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,000
Oh okay, he was in c s I and uh

748
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,440
oh really oh yeah it said. He appeared on film, television,

749
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:41,480
and stage, including CSI, Providence and Coyote Ugly. Uh so,

750
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,400
pretty big deal there.

751
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:47,599
Speaker 4: Oh uh.

752
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,559
Speaker 3: He hosted America's Funniest Home Videos for a couple episodes.

753
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: He also tours alongside Miller as a comedian and used

754
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:05,679
as part of the Sexy Liberal comedy Show twenty seventeen.

755
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:16,039
The tour was called Sexy Liberal Resistance Dore Yeah, Okay,

756
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,039
it's pretty cool. Dude, that's pretty cool. They got a

757
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:25,719
like tongue in cheek, like we're sexy liberals. Dude, cool,

758
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,039
that's pretty cool we have that.

759
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:32,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really transgressive. This guy's I can tell he's

760
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,960
a little bit of a rebel, you know.

761
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,159
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no, he knows a lady with a

762
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,320
leather jacket.

763
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 3: Right, might have had too much to think, you know,

764
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:50,880
graduated from Reddit University, that kind of thing. I mean this, like,

765
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:57,679
what is going on? We really have to find a

766
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:11,239
way to eliminating free speech and uh you know, perhaps

767
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,280
internet access, like it really needs to be curtailed. Like

768
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:24,039
I don't need a guy named Fugal saying uh, like

769
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,840
really am really offering an opinion about anything, let alone

770
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:40,079
talking shit about George Washington? Like, like, in what world

771
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,119
would you listen to the guy who hosts America's Funniest

772
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,079
Home Videos even pretend that he has some opinion about

773
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:48,639
the character of George Washington.

774
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,159
Speaker 4: Well, you know, uh, Tom bergeront like he had the

775
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,280
like the the son and rad on his chest, like

776
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,880
every every time they have to edit out the last

777
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,199
you know, fifteen seconds because he just beat You know,

778
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,639
we must secure a future, that whole thing at the end,

779
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,960
Tom Berger on it was actually the inspiration uh for

780
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:14,320
American History acts and that one movie where Harry Potter

781
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,079
says the N word.

782
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not familiar with.

783
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,159
Speaker 4: Maybe me either, And I really hope that the stay

784
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:30,119
of Tom saw that's not so defaming a nearly deceased

785
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:39,199
potentially commit potential saying potentially Canadian uh deceased comedian uh

786
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,960
allegedly but uh no, you points dance right, And honestly,

787
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,400
I think the funny thing would be like if this

788
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,320
guy were or in like VC France or whatever, you know,

789
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:58,480
he'd have the shiniest boots. He'd beat Goose steppin. Like.

790
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:03,199
This guy doesn't think he reacts to power. He reacts

791
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,559
to what society writ large hands down as like good

792
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:11,480
boy points right, and this guy is going for all

793
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:16,599
of them. He's a sexy liberal comedian. He's resisting. He

794
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:25,480
hates those those Christian nationalists, which include Catholics, semi literate Yankees,

795
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:31,360
hating house painters, the KKK and the LDS hates those guys.

796
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,760
It literally is just that, right, it is that reaction

797
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,960
to power, what is handed down. There's this idea and

798
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,119
I think I'm stealing this from more goth or millennial woes.

799
00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:44,119
I can't remember, but one of them was years ago

800
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,039
talking about the kind of acceptable targets, right, the people

801
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:52,800
that you're allowed to really like dump vitriol on, so like,

802
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,760
you know, twenty years ago, to be like scientologists. You know,

803
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,239
South Park can make fun of scientologists forever and no

804
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,840
one actually gets right, it's an approved target, if you will,

805
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:06,519
and like for for lip tards, like any one of

806
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,440
those groups, or the kind of like loosely constituted group

807
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,000
of Christian nationalists, is exactly that you can dump the

808
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:16,280
most insane vitriol, right, say, I want you replaced, I

809
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,079
want you to be smashed and demolished, you know whatever

810
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,719
his words was, And that's a good thing. I think

811
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,599
that's what it is. Like this, this guy doesn't think

812
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,519
you know, this clearly is not a well reasoned argument

813
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,440
where he's like, you know, pulling together data points. It's

814
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:33,880
just that a pure slavish devotion to power.

815
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're right. Is this I'm not

816
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:44,760
familiar with the preamble, is that his publication. Is he

817
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,840
like a guest author.

818
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:48,079
Speaker 4: I think he's a guest I think that the preamble

819
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,559
is in some way associated with NYT. I'm not entirely

820
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:52,679
sure of what decree.

821
00:53:53,199 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So this guy, okay, so he's all he writes

822
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,000
is this kind of stuff. He like, he mentioned the

823
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:10,760
separation of church and hate, taking back the Bible from fundamentalists,

824
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,840
fascist and flock fleecing frauds. So this is like an

825
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:27,119
interesting phenomenon where like the word fundamentalist and to a

826
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:34,519
lesser extent extremist ah has it's it's really great because

827
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:41,360
liberals use it like like if you see, you know,

828
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,599
you'll see like a Muslim guy blow himself off at

829
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,119
like a you know, an orphanage or something, and the

830
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:55,000
news will be like, oh, a Muslim extremist, Like no.

831
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: No, that guy's providing a valuable service. So Braxton McCoy

832
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,400
can sell three hundred books like that.

833
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: That means a order three hundred books, get three hundred books.

834
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,719
It's the best deal going folks. But but the they

835
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,880
use the word like, you know, they'll say like, oh, well,

836
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,119
Islam is actually really peaceful. It's just the it's the fundamentalists.

837
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,400
It's the extremists that you got to look out for,

838
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:26,000
because too liberals the idea of someone just believing something

839
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,599
is like an extreme position because because like you mentioned,

840
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,519
this guy, only he reacts to stuff. He just his

841
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:36,480
entire presence is a reaction. He doesn't have any actual

842
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:40,239
convictions of his own. And this is this is why

843
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:46,800
the left is like a funny thing because you could, like,

844
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,800
how many times have we seen left wing people get

845
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,320
in trouble for things that they said ten years ago

846
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:57,800
that were left wing ten years ago? Right, Like, like

847
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,599
like you've seen comedians and commentators and things like that.

848
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:06,199
You know, like at one point Barack Obama said that

849
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,400
marriage is between a man and a woman, right, Or

850
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:12,920
the Turkish guy from the Young Turks.

851
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:18,199
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I would not trust Barak no particular distinction.

852
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: No, no, not on that one, you know. But like

853
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,480
the Turkish guy, the fat guy, you know, he got

854
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,880
in trouble because he had a blog about saying that he,

855
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,559
you know, if he went on a date with women,

856
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:35,559
like he wanted to get laid and stuff.

857
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 4: Like.

858
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,639
Speaker 3: You know, you get people who have like progressive beliefs,

859
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,199
they change every two or three years at like the

860
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,960
fundamental level. Right, like abortion has gone from safe legal

861
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,280
and rare as a talking point to being like, no,

862
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,320
you should actually be able to kill the baby, like

863
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,119
right when it comes out, just just because for whatever

864
00:56:57,199 --> 00:57:00,360
reason at any point, like like you to be able

865
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,239
to have the baby and then kill it once it's

866
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,760
out on the day of its birth, like that has

867
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,079
become the the actual like progressive talking point, Like that's

868
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:12,280
how they define abortion at this point. So their beliefs

869
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,280
are constantly kind of iterating and iterating and getting a

870
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,480
little worse and a little worse to the to the

871
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:23,239
point now where you know, there's wrong about everything. Uh,

872
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,079
And so the idea of believing something and then not

873
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,320
changing that belief or not updating it or iterating it

874
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,039
or modifying it in some way every few years until

875
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:37,719
it eventually just becomes a parody of a parody of

876
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,199
a parody. This is foreign to them. But like you know, uh,

877
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,239
like this is this is why they hate religion too,

878
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,920
because when they say like, oh wow, it's it's really dangerous,

879
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,239
these these quote fundamentalists, what that means is basically a

880
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,320
guy who reads the Bible and just go huh well,

881
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,679
uh yeah, there it is, that's what I believe. That's uh,

882
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:10,800
you know, the you know, non errant word of God there.

883
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,239
So that's what I'm gonna go with. Uh. They can't

884
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,119
fathom like actually believing something, the idea of just being like, well,

885
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:22,159
you know, I don't know, this is what the Bible says.

886
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:28,039
It's right there. It's pretty pretty straightforward. They completely reject

887
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:32,679
that style of thinking. And so the idea, it's like, yeah, man,

888
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:36,360
that's not like an extremist believe. Like if if you

889
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,800
look at like like progressive churches, you know, you get

890
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:47,199
these churches with like like transgender lesbians giving communion to

891
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,280
like Muslims who are trying to kill them that moment. Uh,

892
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,480
and it's like yeah, man, I don't know. This is

893
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,480
to me, this is all pretty clearly covered in like

894
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,719
the pastoral epistles like it. You know, it says in

895
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,960
Timothy that you shouldn't have this job. So you know,

896
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,239
I don't know, I don't have like an academic uh

897
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:14,760
you know, need to like justify or evolve that position

898
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,639
or something. It's like it that's just what it says

899
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:18,760
in the Bible. Man, I don't know, it's it's just

900
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,920
right there. It says you should not have this job.

901
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,320
And so uh, that's what I believe. And you know,

902
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:29,079
and in that way, like my beliefs are the same,

903
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:34,440
uh you know, by and large, uh probably less evolved

904
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,840
and less eloquent and you know that type of thing then,

905
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,119
but but in the same vein like like are largely

906
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:46,559
similar to what you would see from like the Council

907
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:50,000
of Nicy or something like that. And so it's like, yeah, man,

908
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,559
I actually don't have to change what I think every

909
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:55,880
fucking two years based off of what Jimmy Kimmel says.

910
00:59:56,079 --> 01:00:00,280
You know, that's, uh, that's no problem. But to them

911
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,480
that makes someone like me like an extremist, when in reality,

912
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,760
it's like, what's what's extreme about that? It says it

913
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,840
in the Bible, and so that's that's just what I

914
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,440
what I you know, accept I don't know what to

915
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,440
tell you like what you know. It's the same with

916
01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:23,599
the Muslim quote extremists. It's like, look, man, like the

917
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:29,679
guys who are blowing themselves up at like the Christmas celebration,

918
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:36,360
they're you know, like they those are earnestly held beliefs,

919
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Like you don't put on a suicide vest blow yourself

920
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,719
up because you don't actually believe this stuff. But I

921
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:47,760
don't think that makes you an extremist. I think it

922
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,800
just makes you someone who actually believes something, and you

923
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,599
have to. People have to believe things. Like you, you

924
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:58,199
would not, you know, charge a machine gun nest you

925
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:01,519
would not into something new you there would be no

926
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:04,480
cause for optimism if someone did not earnestly believe things.

927
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,599
And that's why liberals are inherently non productive people. That's

928
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:12,840
why you have some guy named Fugel saying oscillating between

929
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:18,320
hosting America's funniest home videos and fucking writing articles about

930
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:23,800
you know, why George Washington fucking owned people. And Lenny

931
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,039
is short for Leonard. And here's what a fat black

932
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,639
lady says. She has a little bit of wordplay for

933
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:32,199
you to get, you know, tripped up on if you're

934
01:01:32,199 --> 01:01:36,360
a fucking retarded gen X or something like, you know,

935
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,440
none of this stuff bears out, like none of this

936
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,360
stuff means anything. And these people like they're terrified that

937
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,039
someone might actually believe something earnestly to the point where

938
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:51,079
they would defend it. And to them, that's like, that's

939
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:54,760
that's an unfathomable thing. Like this guy's beliefs will change

940
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,239
if he is told that his beliefs need to change,

941
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,639
and mind will not yours will not like the guys

942
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:09,400
on like our side. It's like, yeah, man, like you

943
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,840
know this stuff it's not like this is pretty straightforward,

944
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,360
like these these beliefs that are more timeless. And you know,

945
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,000
I'm not using I don't want to use the word

946
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,599
conservative because that, you know, I don't think it applies,

947
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:26,199
you know, in the way that people use it in

948
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,679
like the contemporary context. But it's like, yeah, man, it's

949
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:34,280
actually okay to believe stuff like I don't. Don't you know,

950
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,159
some fucking homo writing a gay little blog article for

951
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:42,039
a New York Times offshoot publication, uh is not actually

952
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:46,440
going to get anyone to change their their core beliefs

953
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:51,559
or how they view their relationship to their home bland

954
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,480
or the Bible or God or their church or anything

955
01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:00,960
like that. And frankly, it's it's a fool's errand to

956
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:03,880
write articles like that. This guy doesn't know that. I mean,

957
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,480
I'm sure he probably got paid one hundred bucks by

958
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:08,679
the New York Times. And that's a lot of money

959
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:12,239
for a guy who you know, was in one episode

960
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:16,559
of CSI or hosted several episodes of America's Funniest Home

961
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:21,840
Video it's like, you know, I mean this guy, you know,

962
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,280
I have this pulled up this guy. Most of the

963
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,079
roles that this guy's been in, he doesn't there's not

964
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:33,320
even a name. Like it's really good. Like in twenty

965
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,239
eleven he was in a show called The Mom's View,

966
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,360
which I don't know what that is. His role was

967
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:45,519
quote feature guest and the notes are unknown episodes. So's

968
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:49,840
it's like this guy has public facing work that isn't

969
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,079
even cataloged. Like what this guy says means less than

970
01:03:53,119 --> 01:04:00,519
nothing because he's that corny and he doesn't actually believe anything.

971
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:04,400
But men who do believe things in the past have

972
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:09,400
done things like, uh, create countries, like you know, guys

973
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,880
like George Washington have shaped history. Guys like Julius Caesar

974
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,199
have shaped history because they believed things. And this guy

975
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:20,199
is just writing a gay blog about why it's bad

976
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,880
actually to believe things and expecting anyone, you know, to

977
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,119
fucking care one little bit about what he says because

978
01:04:28,159 --> 01:04:32,239
he uses the uh kind of pithy millennial like, right,

979
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,000
George Washington, he hacking owned people. Man, you know a

980
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,320
little bit of a little bit of light ethnic cleansing.

981
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,800
You know, it's like, uh, yeah, man, there was I

982
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:45,639
don't know, the country, the fucking whole continent was overrun

983
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:48,920
with savages and so we had to had to put

984
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,519
him down with guns so that we could build fucking

985
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:56,639
a railroad. You want me to be sad about that? Like,

986
01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:00,400
you know, sorry, Bud, this as a fuck in way it.

987
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,400
You know, why don't you focus on getting some fucking

988
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,559
curly fries at Cane's Chicken? I mean, is this shit

989
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:08,960
just pisses me off? Dude? This guy looking at this

990
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,679
guy is pissing me off. I need to I got

991
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:14,280
to close that tab because it's it's making me upside.

992
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:18,559
Speaker 4: Well, well, Lee, you're talking about all these you know,

993
01:05:18,639 --> 01:05:21,400
these these high minded ideals about you know, belief and

994
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,760
something that you know carries more weight in your life

995
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,400
than you know, your immediate social standing. But what if

996
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,199
I told you that the guy arguing against you, who

997
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:34,159
by you know, I don't know if you know this,

998
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,280
but he would he doesn't think that he's wrong when

999
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,000
he argues against you. But what if he was a

1000
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,000
self described fifty six year old sexy comedian. Would that

1001
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:45,519
would that shifted anything for you?

1002
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: I would have to reconsider my position if that were

1003
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:49,840
the case.

1004
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,039
Speaker 4: See that's the that's the thing. I read through this

1005
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:53,239
and I was like, you know what, I'm not quite

1006
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,280
convinced that. I went to his Wikipedia and found out

1007
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,639
one turns out that's German name. Uh and two turns

1008
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,920
out that, you know, he's a much more serious person

1009
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,639
than i'd initially anticipated.

1010
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: Does he have does he have a song? Can you

1011
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,239
can you play YouTube song or something? Is there any

1012
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:14,800
is there any? Feugel saying, uh, let me.

1013
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:16,519
Speaker 4: Look this up because I will one hundred percent play

1014
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:22,360
his You can get any it would be good hot clips. Oh,

1015
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:28,440
he's on the Daily Show. Okay, he was on Morning Joe. Oh,

1016
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:33,199
this is great. He did he did a skit all right. Uh.

1017
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,840
Now the thing is, I'm actually let me switch account

1018
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,880
so you can't see my full name. I show this.

1019
01:06:39,679 --> 01:06:44,159
Uh oh he uses the red letter media music, which

1020
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:48,960
is very weird, like royalty free. Be sorry that.

1021
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: You've you've you loaded your your name docs YouTube account.

1022
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,800
And you know, it was like j Feugel saying, and

1023
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,760
this guy was your dad.

1024
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:05,039
Speaker 4: That's the irony. Yeah, computers acknowledge this is the first one.

1025
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:07,239
This is his official YouTube channel. He has more YouTube

1026
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,360
subscribers than me. I hate him already. This is a

1027
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:15,320
very odd opening image. It's a giant what a giant

1028
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,920
float of Sonic the Hedgehog. So this this is cool.

1029
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,159
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll come on, come fuck with me.

1030
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 4: I want to talk. Can you hear any of this?

1031
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:34,079
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, every year around this time, I always

1032
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:37,280
gotta try real hard to not smack upside the head

1033
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,280
all these hypocrites, snakes and vipers.

1034
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:44,719
Speaker 4: So he comed us workers, yes, illegals. Oh, and then

1035
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,360
he goes straight to a Trump tweet from twenty fourteen.

1036
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,480
This came out two years ago. He's still seating, by

1037
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:50,760
the way.

1038
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: This guy's gotta be gone. Man, we gotta we gotta

1039
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:54,119
get this guy.

1040
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,119
Speaker 4: This guy here, this is a serious man, dude. I

1041
01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:02,199
mean she's see you don't get it. There's this is

1042
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,400
comedy goal because we have the the the contrast between

1043
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,920
him dresses Jesus with with a beard and everything. But

1044
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:13,880
he see he's snarky and he's progressive and he has

1045
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,560
he has a Starbucks on it, so he's cool. He's

1046
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,800
different and and look he brings in the ap act

1047
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:29,600
checking by uh sight huh uh anyway, right, fact checking.

1048
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:31,399
And look, he's just like he.

1049
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: Would end undocumented immigration tomorrow if they wanted by locking

1050
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,840
up the white people who do all the hiring.

1051
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 4: This is okay, did you hear that, lady, Yeah, it's good.

1052
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,800
So we've come back to the same central point even

1053
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,560
two years ago in this very cool YouTube video that

1054
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,960
really the the real problem is his bracest grandpa, that

1055
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:57,720
he really hates this guy, this manpa. I know, it's weird.

1056
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,880
It's like every time I'm you know, of course calling

1057
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:07,319
his grandpa, uh, you know, retarded Italian, I'm paraphrasing him.

1058
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,920
These are the terms he uses to describe his own

1059
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,000
blood and again, man, like, look, you and I both

1060
01:09:14,039 --> 01:09:15,800
have maybe said things on the internet that could be

1061
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,680
construed as hyperbolic or maybe a little inflammatory, but like,

1062
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:21,960
I don't know, man, it's just just not done.

1063
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:30,079
Speaker 3: It's yeah, this is there is like a special type

1064
01:09:30,119 --> 01:09:34,720
of I don't know, beating that is deserved by libs

1065
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,920
that just go on the internet to like shit talk

1066
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,520
their family.

1067
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1068
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's such a It's like who are you? Who

1069
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,840
are you even fucking doing this for? Like you you

1070
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,720
could have written this article like his grandfather, as far

1071
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,520
as I can tell, I mean, we didn't read the

1072
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,239
whole article. Maybe he tries to tie it toge there

1073
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:01,720
at the end or something, But as far as I

1074
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,880
can tell, his grandfather wasn't even really essential to the

1075
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,279
telling of the story. Oh of course, not like he

1076
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,560
just as easily skipped the whole thing and just said,

1077
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:15,239
you know, I'm this is a blog about whatever my

1078
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:19,359
concerns about Christian nationalism or something. He didn't even really uh,

1079
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,720
you know, I have to have to get out his

1080
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,239
little style guide and remember to put like, you know,

1081
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:30,199
a relatable anecdote or something at the at the introduction

1082
01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:34,960
to his story, you know, or something like that. So

1083
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:36,119
that's just weird.

1084
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,119
Speaker 4: But by the way, I'm going through his uh.

1085
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 3: That's when did he become feugal saying if his grandfather

1086
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,920
was Italian? Is this something where like his dad took

1087
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,600
his mom's name or something like that.

1088
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,319
Speaker 4: I assume because in the article he describes his his

1089
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,640
dad as an anti racist before there was even a

1090
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,159
word for it, you know, quite positively.

1091
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,159
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's what happened.

1092
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: What Oh, yeah, so this is this is insightful comedy.

1093
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,399
Four years ago he uh, he did a similar skit

1094
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,039
as Jerry Folwell Junior. That's that's cool.

1095
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, But.

1096
01:11:20,119 --> 01:11:22,279
Speaker 4: He also has one where he dress ups up as

1097
01:11:22,359 --> 01:11:28,039
Ben Shapiro. But yeah, is that it's pretty funny? Yeah, okay,

1098
01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:31,199
I've not watched this video, but it is a video

1099
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:35,199
with two point eight hey views. That just says Jimmy

1100
01:11:35,319 --> 01:11:36,600
Carter can stop Trump.

1101
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,359
Speaker 3: That didn't age well, no, I wouldn't say is his

1102
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,720
is his Ben Shapiro impression on YouTube? Is that?

1103
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1104
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 3: Wow?

1105
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 4: Oh no, he just he just pitches up his voice.

1106
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,800
It's not funny, like there there's meat on that bone

1107
01:11:56,039 --> 01:11:59,640
right there. There's similar to the other comments about uh,

1108
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,000
you know pork orcan's chicken, right, there's an easy joke

1109
01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:03,560
to be made.

1110
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about dressing up like Ben Shapiro. You know,

1111
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,319
there's some some legs on that one.

1112
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 4: He was missing the hat, which I know.

1113
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:17,319
Speaker 3: That's interesting. So so he feels pretty freely about dressing

1114
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:20,720
up like Jesus Christ for a YouTube video, but he

1115
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,000
doesn't quite cross the whaling wall to put on the

1116
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,720
the hat. Some some you know, some lines you just

1117
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:32,600
don't cross. I guess.

1118
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 4: Here's a book out. He's promoting his book tour. That's

1119
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:42,720
it's pretty cool. Uh yeah, this guy's a loser man,

1120
01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:46,159
are you Are you allowed to just give self described

1121
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:49,079
sexy comedians wedgies in public? Because I think that's what

1122
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:49,880
this world needs.

1123
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:52,039
Speaker 3: Free men, don't ask permission, burden.

1124
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