1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to thepeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet. 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,760 And again, thank you so much for your support. So 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,920 the courts are trying to slow Donald Trump down, but 11 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:40,960 trust the process. Okay, trust the process. This is the 12 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:45,960 advice from retired US Army Colonel Kurt Schlichter. He is 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,159 a trial lawyer from out in California. He's a columnist 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,640 at town Hall dot com. I think he's also got 15 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,479 a podcast as well, because you know everybody does. But 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,359 also now, he's a great guy. I've interviewed him several 17 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:03,560 times over the year. There's really nice guy, very smart, 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,079 army war college guy, so he he knows what he's 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,920 talking about. I mentioned he's a trial lawyer, and also 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,519 he's done some stand up comedy, so he says, stop 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,519 panicking about all of the stupid legal decisions from leftist 22 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:27,480 judges that the left is getting from judge shopping in 23 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:33,319 leftist jurisdictions. The administration is not rolling over, he says, 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,519 since we have to have this fight, this is the 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,400 time and the battleground to have it. I've said this 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,079 for years. Walk towards the fight. Okay, if you make 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,439 the decision to get into this arena, right, I am 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,840 in the arena. If you're listening to this program, you're 29 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:57,040 probably if you're not in the arena yourself, you are 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,519 like at least like first five rows in this you know, 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:07,760 like you're right there in the action. Okay, you are participant, adjacent. Okay, 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,039 And if you make the decision to get involved, and 33 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:16,000 I welcome like everybody to get involved this This republic 34 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:20,199 only works a free society. Self governing only works if 35 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:28,039 good competent people volunteer to serve, volunteer to help. And 36 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,680 I think it's a huge mistake that conservatives have made 37 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:32,919 for a very long time, which is to just kind 38 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,400 of retreat and I'll just take care of myself, and 39 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:37,639 I'll take care of my family, and I'll focus on 40 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,120 my church and local activities. And look, all of that 41 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:44,439 stuff is important. Don't get me wrong. But if you 42 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:50,719 are abandoning the larger field, then you're giving it over 43 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,759 to your political opponents. 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Right. 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: And you may not care about politics, but politics cares 46 00:02:57,319 --> 00:03:02,960 about you. So if you are in the arena, walk 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,599 towards the fight. And so that's what Colonel Schlichter is advising, 48 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:09,759 and I completely agree. 49 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: Right. 50 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:12,599 Speaker 2: He says, we have to have the fight. This is 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,080 the time to have it, and this is the battleground 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 to fight it on. Want he says, we want it 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,000 settled right at the beginning of the administration so that 54 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,800 we don't have to deal with this down the road. 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,280 We want to fight on these orders, these executive orders, 56 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:31,479 because one, they are manifestly the result of bad faith 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,159 shopping judge shopping, and the opinions themselves are both manifestly 58 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:44,840 procedural and substantively ridiculous. They are legal jokes, he says. 59 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:48,919 Don't listen to the dummy lawyers on Twitter. Only listen 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,879 to me that I told you he's done comedy. Only 61 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:56,240 listen to me or the people I tell you that 62 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,560 you can rely on. Everybody telling you these are reasoned, 63 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,280 valid legal decisions is either a legal illiterate or they 64 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,120 think you're stupid. The way this fight is happening is 65 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:12,319 to our advantage. But wait, you ask, we're getting all 66 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,719 these decisions against us. How can that be good? He says, 67 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:20,839 because they are leaving the Supreme Court no choice. Okay, 68 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:24,920 people want Trump to sound off about this, but he 69 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:29,959 doesn't need to. What's left unstated is the fact that 70 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:35,639 he can just not obey these manifestly improper orders. He 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,519 could just not obey them. They say that that makes 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:46,519 it some sort of a constitutional crisis, that's what they say. 73 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:49,639 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I was just reading when he said. 74 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: He says, but it becomes a real one when they 75 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:58,000 push Trump too far. He's not going to submit forever 76 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,800 to micromanagement of the executive branch by activist district court 77 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:06,879 judges in blue cities across America. And here's the key. 78 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:11,839 Chief Justice John Roberts knows it. Roberts and the majority 79 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:16,319 of the Court know these are ridiculous legally, and the 80 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:19,360 last thing they want to do is stake the credibility 81 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,160 of the Court on this kind of nonsense. They're not 82 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:26,360 going to jump on the grenade that is these decisions. 83 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,079 There might someday be a fight with the President about 84 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:31,839 something where he is legally in the wrong, but this 85 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,759 is not that time. This is not the hill the 86 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,079 Supreme Court will die on. Wisely, Trump is not adding 87 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,720 fuel to the fire by threatening to do what is 88 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,920 what it's very clear he can do, which is to 89 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,920 disobey these lower court rulings. This provides the Supreme Court 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,120 the cover that it needs to deal with these upstart 91 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:59,959 district courts without looking like Trump strong armed the Supreme Court. 92 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,839 So relax, let the process go forward. He says, We're 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,399 going to win on all of these injunctions, and I 94 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:13,040 expect fairly quickly. All right, So, and I trust Colonel 95 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:19,439 Schlickter on this stuff, like he he generally is correct 96 00:06:20,959 --> 00:06:23,000 about this kind of thing. So there is a larger 97 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,800 strategy playing out. Let me go over and chat with Marty. Hello, Marty, 98 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,120 welcome to the program. 99 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: Hey Pete, have you doing well? Yes, sir here today. 100 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I call second Winter. 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: It is. 102 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I had a kind of a question, and I 103 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,199 think you answered it already. But first of all, I 104 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,480 think the Colonel's right. I think it does play out. 105 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:49,680 I've got a spring court and Trump come out ahead 106 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,720 and there'll be a good ruling on it. But it's 107 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:54,519 always been a defense for the Democrats to use courts anyway. 108 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,319 We don't have the popular opinions. But the courts that 109 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:03,399 are ruling, are they federal courts? Are the district courts? 110 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: They are? 111 00:07:04,199 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: I believe they are. I mean, there's five of them, 112 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,600 I think at this point, I believe they are all 113 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,000 federal courts, but they are at the district level. 114 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:12,439 Speaker 4: Gotcha. 115 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: Got you? 116 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: Now, let me ask a question, and I don't know, 117 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:22,160 but maybe you will. Is it possible that Trump, being 118 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:28,319 president executive, could he reassign these judges to different locations 119 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:29,399 are jurisdictions? 120 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I think that. 121 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,639 Speaker 2: I mean, there are processes for removing judges, but I 122 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:38,360 think it's pretty limited, like the reasons for doing so. 123 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,680 If I recall, it's been a really long time since 124 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,720 I did anything that I looked into any of that 125 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:45,319 at all, and I can't even remember how long. 126 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Ago it was. It was so long ago. 127 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's wonderful. If they could, Yeah, 128 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,639 I'd be wonder if they could take the I guess 129 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,600 conservative areas and reassign those judges to those locations, and 130 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:00,360 then take the ones that are in those jurisdictions making 131 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:05,240 these crazy rulings, using it as you know, a democrat ideology. 132 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:08,759 Speaker 2: I guess, well, you can have with But so I 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,720 think what's going to play out is that the US 134 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Supreme Court will step in. 135 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: And they will. 136 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,319 Speaker 2: And there's a thing called man damis, which is where 137 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:24,040 like you get the court to come in and intercede, 138 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:27,120 I think, And so I think to have the Supreme 139 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:31,199 Court smack down these lower court judges, and to do 140 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:36,519 so swiftly and brutally sends the message and then sets 141 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,120 the well, not precedent, but it sets the directive that, 142 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,960 like the president can do these things, you know, and 143 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 then all of the other lower courts have to fall 144 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:48,559 in line with that. 145 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,399 Speaker 1: Now, if they do not, I. 146 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,159 Speaker 2: Don't know if there's like some sort of judicial standards 147 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:56,679 review or something that occurs that gets them tossed out. 148 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,399 But I suspect a lot of them would not try 149 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,360 to cross the Supreme Court to do so. 150 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: It'd be a waste of their time. But you know, 151 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,440 if if it were possible, it'd be nice to see 152 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,559 those justices reassigned to Northern Alaska somewhere, wouldn't I. 153 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,159 Speaker 2: Hear there's a big demand for leftist judges in Yes, 154 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,440 the outer hinterlands in Alaska. 155 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: Would be there. 156 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Marty, I appreciate the call. Yeah 157 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:22,840 I do. 158 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't remember what I like I said. I think 159 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,120 you gotta be you got to be on the take. 160 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,480 You got to be a corrupted judge with you know, 161 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:35,519 video evidence. I think in order to get removed from 162 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:39,559 a bench. But I don't remember. 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All right, let's 191 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,240 go to the phones. Uh, this is Mike. Welcome to 192 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,120 the program. Hello, Mike, Hi, how are you hey? I'm well, 193 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:24,679 what's going on? 194 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,919 Speaker 3: I just heard your previous caller and and the idea 195 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:37,480 of it because a federal district court judge doesn't agree 196 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,639 with the caller, that they would somehow move them around 197 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:49,879 so that they would be uh so they wouldn't count. 198 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:52,399 Speaker 2: And well, it's not that they wouldn't count, it's it's 199 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,960 to punish them. 200 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever it is. You know, we'll 201 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:06,120 even a democracy and we and we don't the fact 202 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,080 that we don't like what a distre court judge might 203 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:17,360 settle on for whatever reason. Read our constitution and understand 204 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:22,240 how our government works. And if you don't like the 205 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,000 opinion of a federal court judge who was appointed by 206 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:27,720 a certain president, then you vote. 207 00:12:29,639 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: For somebody else, right, Okay, So what what is Mike, 208 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:34,840 what's your opinion on judge shopping? 209 00:12:34,919 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? 210 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 211 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,279 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, right, okay, So what's your what's your opinion 212 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,080 on on judge shopping? 213 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that it's something that should be 214 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,639 allowed to be done. 215 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 5: They do it at the. 216 00:12:53,879 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: Local level for court cases where somebody might be less sayavorable, 217 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,519 or more favorable. 218 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, So if you have a judge, so 219 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:08,240 all right, So if you have a judge that has 220 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:12,080 a reputation and a lifelong appointment, uh, and they've got 221 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:18,519 a reputation of bending the law, bending interpretations in order 222 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,480 to aid and debt a particular philosophy. Is there no 223 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,720 recourse to take against that judge for issuing rulings that 224 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:36,120 are constantly overturned by higher courts because of their legal infirmities. 225 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: Exactly? And judges are are graded as well. I don't 226 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,320 know if sederal district court judges have a lifetime appointment, 227 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,879 but that's what we vote for, is to have that 228 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,600 idea removed. Right, what happens in the n district court? 229 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,519 Speaker 2: Well, this is yeah, Well the I think most of 230 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,279 these are coming out of like DC area. 231 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: Right. 232 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,759 Speaker 2: So if a judge keeps so, if a judge keeps 233 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:13,159 on issuing rulings that, uh, that are not legal, that 234 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:19,000 are constitutionally unsound, right, that are constantly overturned because of 235 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:23,480 their deficiency, then that judge there's no way, there's no 236 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,639 way to punish that judge. 237 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: There's no way to say, this guy's off the rails. 238 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: Well, sure it is. 239 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:31,879 Speaker 2: What what what what would you like to see as 240 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:33,080 that repercussion? 241 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,399 Speaker 1: What should the punishment be? 242 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:41,799 Speaker 3: Whoever is responsible for that area in terms of judges, 243 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,000 then let those people make that decision, and I mean, 244 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,480 we can't so a. 245 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Chief like a chief district judge, You're so you'd be 246 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:55,600 okay with like a chief district judge that would say, hey, 247 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,840 you know, you keep doing these rulings that keep getting 248 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,960 overturned because you're just making up stuff and you're not 249 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,519 you're not following the law, and so we're going, so 250 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:07,799 I'm going to like remove you from the bench. 251 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:09,879 Speaker 1: You'd be all right with that kind of a process. 252 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,679 Speaker 3: Certainly if that's the process that is in place. 253 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:17,759 Speaker 2: And well, I don't know what problems, right, I don't 254 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:20,159 know what process is in place, but it seems like 255 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,759 you you disagree with the concept of uh of an 256 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:30,679 administration moving judges into different districts because they're not satisfied 257 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,480 with the way they're behaving, But you are okay with 258 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:37,960 the chief judge removing somebody from the bench because they 259 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,240 don't like their way they're behaving. 260 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: Is that, well, whatever the process that the court system uses, 261 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:50,000 then yeah, And if it's not what you agree with, 262 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,159 well then you're right to your senators and you're right 263 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,440 to your representatives and your. 264 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:57,559 Speaker 1: Right. 265 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: But the judges are appointed by the right. But the 266 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,320 judges get appointed at the federal level by the president, 267 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,519 by the administration. So, and to be clear, I don't 268 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:09,720 know what when you say whatever that process is, I 269 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,679 don't know what that process is. It doesn't seem like 270 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:14,840 there even is one, because there are judges that have 271 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,039 been making terrible rulings for a very long time and 272 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,840 they never suffer any kind of repercussions for it. So 273 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:24,000 that's so I don't know if just saying, well, you know, 274 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,320 whatever the process is, we just let that play out, 275 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,679 whatever that might be, because it obviously is not it's 276 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:30,399 not sufficient. 277 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:32,639 Speaker 1: But Mike, I appreciate the call. 278 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: And look, I understand the concern about having, you know, 279 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:39,759 an administration come in and start reassigning people, but and 280 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,399 I know that's not the current process, but there has 281 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,200 to be a way. If you've got a judge that 282 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,840 keeps doing this to the point where everybody knows, take 283 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:51,039 your case to that guy, because he's going to give 284 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,480 us the ruling that we want. 285 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Like that's a problem. I appreciate the call. 286 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,639 Speaker 2: I'm all right, I hope you had a happy holiday season, 287 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:01,200 But tell me, if something like this happened at your house, 288 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:04,119 your family and friends are gathered around, maybe y'all are 289 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,680 in the living room. You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and 290 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,519 then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? 291 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Did you ever get them transferred? And then the room 292 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,079 gets all quiet. All eyes are on Dad, who says, oh, 293 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,160 you know, well, I've been meaning to but I just 294 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,160 having gotten around to it. Look, don't let those priceless 295 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,799 memories sit in a box for another year. 296 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: All right. 297 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,079 Speaker 2: Create a Video has been helping families in the Charlotte 298 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,920 area preserve their history since nineteen ninety seven. Simply bring 299 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,400 in your old camquarder tapes and Creative Video will transfer 300 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:39,640 them to a USB flash drive for just fourteen ninety 301 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,000 five per tape. You have a big collection, They've got 302 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,160 a discount for you. And next year, instead of talking 303 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,960 about those memories, imagine gathering the family to watch them together. 304 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,839 Talk about a memorable gift. So do what I did. 305 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,759 Trust the experts at Creative Video, conveniently located in mint 306 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:59,599 Hill right off I four eighty five and online at 307 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,759 creator of Video dot com. 308 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,039 Speaker 1: I did get a tweet. It's a peat tweet. 309 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: From Karen, who says Representative Eli Crane from Arizona is 310 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:16,960 drawing up articles of impeachment against one of these judges. 311 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,559 So that is one way to go right, impeach the 312 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,039 judge to get them removed. And Tommy said, regarding the 313 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:28,319 last caller, Mike, we are a republic, not a democracy. 314 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:32,119 Are they twisted or brainwashed that they don't know this 315 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 country was founded on Well, it's a democratic republic, Like 316 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:40,160 we elect people democratically. So, like I know, people they 317 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,039 fixate on this word and they always say, we're a democrat, 318 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:45,519 you know, constitutional republic and all of that, but we 319 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:51,519 still employ a democratic method in that constitutional republic and 320 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:57,119 people shorthanded due to corruption of the vocabulary. But there 321 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,519 there are democratic principles at play, lowercase democratic principles, and 322 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,880 that's the mechanism we use. So, like I know, people 323 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,920 get very upset when they hear that. I just and 324 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,680 you heard me, Like I went uh when I heard 325 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:14,599 Mike say it, But because but I like, it's a 326 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,559 shorthand and it wasn't central to his argument, and so 327 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,319 I just moved on. Now, I mentioned a thing called 328 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:23,960 a mandamus. 329 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:26,599 Speaker 1: Margo Cleveland. 330 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: She is a lawyer and a professor, and she writes 331 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:36,640 over at the Federalists Dot com and there are temporary 332 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,119 restraining orders or tros that have been implemented to prevent 333 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,759 the administration from enacting their executive orders from carrying them out, 334 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:48,440 so it restrains them from doing so temporarily a temporary 335 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,640 restraining order, she says, Normally you cannot appeal those. But 336 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:59,039 a mandamus is basically a lawsuit filed against a judge 337 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,000 in the appellate court, so one court above the district court. 338 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,079 So you go for a writ of mandamus to essentially 339 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,519 file a lawsuit against the judge, the lower court judge, 340 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:14,039 saying that the judge acted without authority. And then if 341 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:18,200 you win that with if the appeals court agrees with you, 342 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:21,799 it tells the lower court judge to stop doing what 343 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,960 he or she is doing. And this order applies to 344 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:33,680 all federal funding, way beyond authority. Do you remember a 345 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,559 guy named Rui to shera. Remember that name. It's spelled 346 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:41,839 t e i x e i r A Ruy to share, 347 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,440 to share, a hey share whatever, Texi era whatever. 348 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,759 Speaker 1: Rui are Y is his first name. 349 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: He was the guy that wrote the book literally, Demographics 350 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,559 is Destiny. That was the That was his argument, right 351 00:20:55,559 --> 00:21:01,240 that as old white conservative people die and we have 352 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:07,119 a rising diverse population that once whites are no longer 353 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720 in the majority, then Democrats will basically rule for a 354 00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:13,240 billion years or something, right like that was the demographics's 355 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,039 destiny theory that Democrats were relying on for the last 356 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,359 twenty years. I remember when this was first pitched. So 357 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,720 then came, you know, within the last five years or so, 358 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:27,799 you've heard the great replacement theory, and then the Democrats 359 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:29,880 and media. But I repeat myself, we're like, oh my gosh, 360 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,000 I can't believe they're saying that. But that's what they 361 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:35,240 were arguing for. Let's replace all of the white people 362 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:39,240 because they vote Republican. That was the strategy. Okay, So 363 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:45,559 ruy tshera Democrat guy. He's now warning his allies that 364 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,000 they are marching themselves off of a political cliff with 365 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:57,799 their all in defense of USAID's unaccountable spending. He writes 366 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,880 over at the Free Press Free Press or FP dot com. 367 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,440 I think Trump occupies the high ground in this fight, 368 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:08,880 which is probably why he and Musk picked it. 369 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: Now. 370 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: I have heard that the reason why USAID actually came 371 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,759 onto the radar so quickly was because when they first 372 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:20,000 set out and told everybody, freeze all the funding. Nobody 373 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:26,559 do anything, and USAID basically put the spotlight on themselves 374 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,480 because they refused to turn over any information. They said, 375 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 we're going to keep sending out all of this money. Right, 376 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,599 they obstructed, and they were like the first ones to 377 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,359 do so. And then when they tried to go in there, 378 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,480 remember one of their USAID chiefs or something tried to 379 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,400 physically block people from getting into the building. And so 380 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,160 that's what put them on the radar first. But it 381 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:53,720 just so happens that they are like the poster child 382 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:58,759 here for this kind of waste and fraud. If voters 383 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,240 to share a rights, if voter dislike anything, it's bureaucracy 384 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:08,480 and foreign aid, right, And USAID is a ten thousand 385 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:13,400 employee bureaucracy housed in a palatial building on prime downtown 386 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,119 real estate that spends forty billion dollars a year on 387 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,319 other countries. So the two things that American voters dislike 388 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,680 the most, USAID checks both of those boxes. And the 389 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,839 position Democrats are trying to stake out here is not 390 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,599 going to win them a lot of favor among voters. 391 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,839 All right, if you're listening to this show, you know 392 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,880 I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 393 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,960 and I know you do too, And you've probably heard 394 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:45,119 me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, 395 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,839 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 396 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,079 I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app 397 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,480 and it's a website, and it combines news from around 398 00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:56,960 the world in one place, so you can compare coverage 399 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,880 and verify information. 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Your subscription 410 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 411 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent 412 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,119 to the phones we go. Let's talk with Tony. Tony 413 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000 good to hear from you. I think I haven't spoken 414 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,920 with you since the election. How are you doing? 415 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 5: Hey, good Pete. How you doing today, sir? 416 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,759 Speaker 1: I'm good. You're all right? Uh, I just know it 417 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:54,599 like it's been a while. 418 00:24:55,759 --> 00:25:00,519 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm fine, man, Okay, good. Yeah. I was 419 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,559 calling about the what is it called the US AID? 420 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:06,799 Is that is that the funding that America gifts heal 421 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,359 the country? 422 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:09,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of them. 423 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So how much how much are they cutting 424 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,440 that whole thing out? Everything? 425 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,039 Speaker 2: Well, they're looking they were looking through so they they 426 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,240 they went in there and they started looking through where 427 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,640 the grants were going, where the funding was going. And 428 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,599 what what Musk said was like, we you know, it's 429 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480 not like I think he gave the analogy of like, 430 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,079 it's not the they were looking for the worms in 431 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,880 the apple, but there is no apple. It's all just worms. 432 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,480 That's what he said. So yeah, so like whatever. So 433 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,599 out of forty billion dollars, it sounds like the vast 434 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,720 majority of it has been going out the door to 435 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,359 fund programs that are not aligned with the intention of 436 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,279 the program, which is to give you know, aid to 437 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,680 you know, struggling countries or people that are affected by 438 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720 disasters like sending rice and wheat and corn and food 439 00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:04,119 and medical supplies and that kind of stuff. They're not 440 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:06,359 doing a lot of that kind of work. They're doing 441 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,680 a lot of other stuff, like you know, covert operations 442 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,599 with the CIA to overthrow governments. Like that's probably not 443 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,039 in line with the original intent of USAI. 444 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 5: D oh wow. Okay, So Dull doesn't get any of 445 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,880 that money, then what's that Israel doesn't get any of 446 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,319 that money? 447 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: Then I have not seen No, I have not seen 448 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,599 Israel on any of the lists I did see Ireland, 449 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,799 which like, why are we giving Ireland any money? 450 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:34,839 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. 451 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 5: Okay, So where does Israel get the money? 452 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: For me? 453 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,519 Speaker 5: Where is that? What? What? What treasure is that coming 454 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:40,880 out of? 455 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:44,039 Speaker 2: More than likely, I would say it's probably coming out 456 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:45,599 of the Defense Department budget. 457 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,279 Speaker 1: The Defense Department, Yeah, I think so that's if I 458 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:50,839 had to guess. 459 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: But I don't know that, Tony. I'm just I'm guessing. So, 460 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,359 but I would guess it's coming out of Defense. 461 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I thought you might have known that because 462 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,920 I you know, they get billions and billions of dollars, 463 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,160 you know what I mean. So that's something that well. 464 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,519 Speaker 2: They get, they get well, I don't know if they 465 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,640 get direct money. I think they get military assistants. I 466 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,599 think they get so like and this is just like 467 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,680 with Ukraine, Like we say, you're getting you know, one 468 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,119 hundred billion dollars in aid, but it's military assistance. And 469 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,400 so that one hundred billion dollars is going to military contractors, 470 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,839 usually in America, and then the products that they manufacture 471 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,880 get sent to Ukraine. 472 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: That's not all the that's not all the time. 473 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: There is some There are some cash movements obviously too, 474 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,599 but a lot when they talk about military assistance, that's 475 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,839 that's what they're talking about. 476 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 5: You know, I wonder why America could get that much 477 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:48,279 money in military aid or whatever. They can get money 478 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480 and cash to all of you for company, but can't 479 00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,680 help the poor people in America. 480 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,319 Speaker 2: That is right, And that's the question that that Trump 481 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,880 is asking. That's the question that that report Bbplicans are asking, 482 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,200 why are we giving all of this money to other 483 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,240 countries when like we have people living in tents in 484 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:09,720 western North Carolina after a flood, right that's or in 485 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,160 Los Angeles after a fire. 486 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: Right Where's Oh no. 487 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 5: You're talking about disasters I'm just talking about everyday people 488 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,519 that are struggling in our country that can't get housed 489 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,599 and can't get food, but you don't want to help them, 490 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,759 and you're sending out billions of dollars to these other countries. 491 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 3: I don't get that. 492 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: No, you sound no, that's literally, Tony, you're literally saying 493 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,599 the thing that MAGA is. 494 00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: Saying, as far as I'm helping poor people. 495 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're saying, why is this money going to foreign 496 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,279 countries and not Americans? 497 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: That's literally what they're saying. 498 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 5: When did they say we were going to help poor people? 499 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,319 When did they say that? Because I missed out? 500 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean? When did they say we're going 501 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:48,559 to help poor people? 502 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,519 Speaker 2: They literally they said, you said, Tony, you said that 503 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,880 the money shouldn't be going over there, it should be 504 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,640 staying here to help Americans. And that's what MAGA is 505 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,839 saying as well. And that is they don't differentiate poor, rich, whatever. 506 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,799 They're just saying the money needs to stay here. 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,519 Speaker 5: Okay. So so, so what you're saying is that a 508 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640 MAGA is saying that the money that is going after 509 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,319 these font countries needs to stay in America to help 510 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,799 Americans out right, correct. Okay, Now, uh, are we talking 511 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,319 about Americans that don't need help or were talking about 512 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:24,880 Americans that need help? They have? 513 00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: They have not just I have not heard somebody say 514 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,839 in the MAGA movement ever, that we need to keep 515 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160 the money here to help people that don't need the money. 516 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,359 I've never heard anybody make that argument. The idea is 517 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,079 that the money needs to stay here to help people 518 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,079 that need the help. 519 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,559 Speaker 1: That's I always that's been the implication. 520 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 5: Now what does that look like to you? How did how? 521 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440 How does how are they gonna do? How would they do? 522 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,039 How's Macca doing that that help them poor people in 523 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,039 our country? How? What agency are they using. 524 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,559 Speaker 4: To do that? 525 00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:57,319 Speaker 5: Where's that at? 526 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,759 Speaker 2: Probably Social Security, Medicare, Dedicaid, food stamps. 527 00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,519 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, that's already that's that's already 528 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,359 and uh that's already in effect. 529 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're underfunded. No, but Tony, they're underfunded. They're 530 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,799 gonna go bankrupt soon. 531 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: They're gonna go bankrupt. Yeah, okay, so so listen, I'm 532 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,680 all for that. If they're gonna if they're gonna say hey, listen, yeah, 533 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,279 we're gonna take this money away from from from the 534 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,559 far cost that don't like us anyway, right, don't like 535 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,039 you anyway? You know that don't right? 536 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: No, none of them like us. No, that's the whole 537 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,400 point is and and no, that's the whole point. That's 538 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,000 the whole message that MAGA. So welcome to the MAGA movement, Tony. 539 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:40,440 The latest edition to MAGA is Tony. I'm as surprised 540 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:40,680 as you. 541 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: All Right, that'll do it for this episode. 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