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He 25 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:32.159 joins the show. 26 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:32.480 Of course. 27 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.599 He's a commentator on pretty much every sport invented. 28 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.280 He he is a play by play guy. Roxy. Welcome 29 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:41.079 to the show. How you doing. 30 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:43.799 I'm great, Scott, how are you? 31 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.959 You know, I'm living the dream and as I always say, 32 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:46.840 it's not a nightmare. 33 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.519 So I feel pretty good about it. And I am 34 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.120 I am awakened conscious, So this is this is not 35 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.079 you know, not made up. You were just in town 36 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:55.879 right for time. 37 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.000 There kind of I try to slide in under the 38 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.760 radar because it was supposed to be a surprise party 39 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.280 for they had a retirement down at BYU for Tom 40 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:10.800 Homo twenty three years working in the administration for the 41 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.759 athletic director at BYU, and and so it was supposed 42 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.199 to be a surprise. So I didn't alert anybody I 43 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.680 was coming to town like my buddies. I didn't text them, Hey, 44 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.719 I'm coming in. Just slide under the radar. But it 45 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.400 was a great event. It was cool to see guys 46 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.439 like Ronnie Lott and Keena Turner show up. Yeah, in 47 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.560 support of Tom Homo. But it was a fabulous night 48 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:32.520 at it at Provo. 49 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.479 Yeah, you know, Tom did a great jobs as an 50 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:39.759 ad and what I thought was a tough situation. I 51 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:45.560 thought BYU being in independence was almost almost a prison sentence. 52 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.400 And then and then you know, of course b YU 53 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:52.319 has the unique challenges that it does, and I just 54 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.159 thought he's just he's handled it so well and made 55 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.560 some really savvy moves and and you know, got BYU, 56 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.080 I think in a better place when he left and 57 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:03.400 when he was there and when he showed up. 58 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:07.919 So no question considering you're now in the Big Twelve, 59 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.240 you're in one of the power for conferences. And there 60 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:13.039 had to be some growing pains along the way you 61 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.080 alluded to when they went independent and went West Coast 62 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:21.000 Conference for their Olympic sports and including basketball, but they 63 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:26.120 were patient and this the Big Twelve hunt for BYU 64 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.479 was a long time in the making. It just didn't 65 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.759 spark a few years ago like this has been something 66 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.680 that they were after for a while and it came 67 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.000 to fruition. And now you look at the league and 68 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:41.360 it's just when you look at especially in basketball, Scott 69 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.199 it's a good football league as we know, and certainly 70 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:48.759 the success ASU had last year, but it's arguably the 71 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.800 best basketball league in the country, at least consistently, although 72 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.919 the SEC was the best league in the country last year. 73 00:03:56.159 --> 00:04:01.080 So I'm curious. How many sports do you actually broadcast. 74 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.560 As of now? I'm doing well, do we count pro 75 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.840 in college? Is one? If I'm doing the same sport, I'm. 76 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.240 Going to say no. But because I think it's different. 77 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.439 I think it's a different preparation. You tell me or 78 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.680 is it the same doing the same sport or no? 79 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.759 The prep, as you know, is different. So I do 80 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:24.759 both the NFL and college football for ESPN NFL and 81 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:30.480 ESPN Radio college football on TV and radio. I do 82 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.879 college basketball. Tons of it is your listeners who are 83 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.639 familiar with me. You know that I don't do the NBA. 84 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:42.199 I do Major League in college baseball, and I do 85 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:44.920 the NHL and a little bit of college hockey also 86 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.439 for ESPN. So what is that seven. 87 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:50.279 I had? Yeah? 88 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.000 I had eight, but don't trust my math, right because 89 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:55.920 I'm not sure I even have ten fingers? 90 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:57.480 So who knows that I could be? 91 00:04:57.560 --> 00:04:57.720 Well? 92 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.079 Uh so when can you when you prep for that? 93 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.959 I was just thinking this, you know how, I think 94 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.639 it would be maddening, which one of the sports that 95 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.240 you actually broadcast, you have to like really grind like 96 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.920 because I'm sure there are things you're just really comfortable, 97 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.399 really familiar with, but there's got to be a sport you's. Man, 98 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:18.920 It's just it's a real grind to find it. 99 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.800 Well, I wouldn't say, but I take it back. I've 100 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.319 been doing some of that indoor football recently. Also, there's 101 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.560 a team here to Pay Area, so I forgot about it. 102 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.079 The Bay Area Panthers are co owned by Marshawn Lynch 103 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.920 and they're the team in the Western Conference. And so 104 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.079 I've done and they reached out to me, Hey, do 105 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:38.920 you want to do some of our games? Sure don't 106 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.600 I'll do your home games, yeah, and just drive down 107 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.759 to San Jose A. So they have the playoffs coming up, 108 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:47.000 so we're getting ready for that. That's been the hardest Scott, 109 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.120 because there is very little information out there on even 110 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.079 the team's website. It is very elementary. So that has 111 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.560 been the hardest sport to prepare for. And you know 112 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.600 the thing that's challenging is, and you deal with this too, 113 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.240 is for example, an opening college football game, because the 114 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.680 rosters are so big and you have the guys that 115 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.680 are at the top of the depth chart. Right, if 116 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:17.560 you get a one sided game, which for example, I'm 117 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.399 probably going to have one of those week one, Well, 118 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:22.759 how deep will the school go into their depth chart? 119 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:26.000 What true freshmen are going to play? And how big 120 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.959 can I get my spotting board to make sure I 121 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:33.519 have every potential player on there? So that that's challenging 122 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.439 because you know, right when if Utah has played, for example, 123 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.399 when they were heavy favorite over I don't know Southern 124 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.879 Utah or weaker States, right, how deep do you go 125 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.759 in your depth chart? And you know, you try to 126 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.000 quiz coach wit and a staff, right who could possibly 127 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:52.079 see the field. That's as challenging, I think as it 128 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:53.879 is to prepare for a game, to be honest with you. 129 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:55.560 Well, and if you get a Utah game, you're going 130 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:04.399 to get a lot of Polynesian names and. 131 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:02.160 And I feel confident with them. 132 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:03.920 But when you're on the air and you have to 133 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.879 say it just it's got to flow, you know, and 134 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:07.439 you get you dig deep, that's it. 135 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:09.560 That's a tough one and it takes. 136 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.360 Some practicing, right. You can't just phonetically. You have to 137 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.040 say it a numbers and you can't just like repeat 138 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.000 it in your head. You have to say it out 139 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.839 loud and numerous times to make sure you get it correctly, 140 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.240 because the last thing you want to do is offend 141 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.079 someone's family, especially their mom. 142 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.319 If you and and a Polynesian mom, is that's that's 143 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.160 that's a death sentence right there. It's It's like it's 144 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.079 like throwing a football in the NFL. You just have 145 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.519 to let it go. You just have to. You can't, 146 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.000 you can't hold on to it. You just got to 147 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.839 let it go there. No, just just go for it. 148 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.240 Just whatever you say, just say it with confidence and 149 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:52.680 the and it'll turn out somewhat uh nice. Uh so, well, 150 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:54.720 because I want to jump all over the place. I 151 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.519 just wanted to talk about a bunch of different things, 152 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.199 different sports. I was I actually kind of wanted to 153 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.920 play a game. And do you want to play a 154 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:02.639 game for a minute? 155 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:03.399 Sure? Why not? 156 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.519 Okay, So I'm going to give you a sport that 157 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.879 you broadcast, and I want you to give me the 158 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:12.600 most the most relevant information I need to know about 159 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:13.399 that sport today. 160 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:15.120 Can you do that? 161 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:17.360 I can do my best? 162 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:23.439 Okay, college baseball. 163 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:27.360 Well, college baseball. The transfer portal is, of course like 164 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.560 college basketball. Like college football, the talk of the town 165 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:35.679 and money speaks, and players are leaving, and unfortunately that 166 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.320 is taken the thunder away from what we should be 167 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.639 talking about. But the transfer portal is just as prevalent 168 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.320 college baseball as it is in football or basketball, and 169 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:45.159 maybe even more so. 170 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.000 To be honest with you, really. 171 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.559 I did not know that. See, I'm glad I asked 172 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.320 you these questions. I'm glad we're playing this game. Is 173 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:55.120 there money out there for these players in a lot 174 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.440 of I know there was a softball pitcher from Stanford 175 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.360 who went I think to Texas. 176 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.440 And back and got over a million. 177 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:05.799 Yeah, was a big deal. All right, let's go h. 178 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.519 Think thing go with that too, Scott. Is you deal 179 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.879 with the major league draft with some high school kids 180 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.240 and turning it down and if kids are drafted, do 181 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.320 they go do they go to college? 182 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:17.039 Then? 183 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:21.000 How much it really is? It's a fascinating deep dive. 184 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:23.639 It can take you seriously down a rabbit hole if 185 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:24.279 you don't stop. 186 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.120 Well, yeah, I guess because you know, you get drafted 187 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:29.000 out of high school, you're going to get some signing 188 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.799 bonus or something, and where you go to college you 189 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.440 may get more money, and you may it may be 190 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:38.200 a better opportunity for you to grow and develop, and 191 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:40.720 you still and you kind of still have the benefit. 192 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.879 Maybe you're not having the same competition, but you're at least, 193 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.759 I don't know, getting I struggled with like three hundred 194 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.679 dollars a month when I played. I can't fathom what 195 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:55.080 these players are getting with money and how it's all 196 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:55.960 really changed. 197 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.679 It's so fascinating. 198 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.720 With the agents involved, and it's it's crazy. I was 199 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.519 talking to a football agent last week and they're going 200 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.960 into the high schools now to recruit kids because they 201 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:13.039 can make money on their nil contracts and deals that 202 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.399 they have with schools. So it is starting not just 203 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.240 okay when guys are in college, it's probably when you 204 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.159 first dealt with agents, but they're going into the high 205 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.600 school ranks now because of the money that's out there. 206 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.039 It is an incredible business now. I'm anxious to see 207 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.519 how it changes moving forward, and with some of the 208 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.720 regulations they're trying to put in. But it is nuts 209 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.039 when you think about high school kids are being approached 210 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:40.759 by professional agents. 211 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.600 So my agent, who I had my whole entire career, 212 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:46.639 great great guy, still an agent today. 213 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:47.840 He's been in the business forever. 214 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.399 Tony agnow is his names in Baltimore, And I actually 215 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.879 had him on my radio show talking about the same thing, 216 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.960 and he said, he said, I had a former client 217 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.120 who's the sun was going through all this stuff, and 218 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:04.279 you know, he was a young kid, still in high 219 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:06.759 school and he goes and I was actually giving him 220 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.000 instruction and helping him out with the whole thing. So yeah, 221 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.080 it's a real thing. And these they're going after these 222 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:14.159 kids at a young age. 223 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:15.639 It is crazy. 224 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.320 Yeah, all right, let's go to let's go to major 225 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.080 League Baseball. What do I need to know about major 226 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:21.799 League Baseball? 227 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.799 Well, right now, the big thing is the trade deadline, 228 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.759 because we're approaching it tomorrow and these trades are going 229 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.399 to happen fast and furious, and teams like the Dodgers 230 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.279 and the Yankees are going to be aggressive. And I've 231 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:38.360 already seen some interesting trades go down today between the 232 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.440 Mets and the Giants. And does that mean the Giants 233 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:42.600 are waving the white flag that they don't think they 234 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:47.200 can make a push for the wild card? But right now, 235 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:50.320 that's the talk as far as major League Baseball goes. 236 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.200 It's the trade deadline, and it's going to get fast 237 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.639 and furious here over the next probably twenty four hours 238 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.120 as these trades and teams are trying to strain and 239 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.639 their roster heading down the stretch toward the postseason. 240 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.559 Is that what you kind of look for with the trade. 241 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.799 It's like if if the team doesn't make a trade 242 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.960 and you're a fan, you go, we're done. They're not 243 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.960 They're not going to play make the playoffs. Or is 244 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.159 there still hope for some of these teams who who 245 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:18.960 don't land a good trade option. 246 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.879 It's hard because teams are just trying to bolster their 247 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.120 roster right get depth, whether they're adding an arm for 248 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.120 their pitching staff, whether it's a bullpen, or they're trying 249 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:30.039 to bring in a starter where they're trying to get 250 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:34.200 another bat to length in the lineup. It's hard if 251 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.279 you don't make a move because how aggressive these other 252 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.960 teams are. And you see it, Scott, You know, when 253 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.320 a team makes a move and they're aggressive about making 254 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:45.879 a trade, it sends a message to the clubhouse or 255 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.559 the locker room right that they believe in this team, 256 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.799 and everybody in there gets just a little more confident 257 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.720 knowing that Hey, they're trying to help us, and they're 258 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.759 trying to give us another weapon that we can use. 259 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.000 So that's the other the psychological factor also coming up 260 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.200 of a trade deadline, but or if a team that realizes, 261 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:06.879 you know what, we're not going to get there, so 262 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.919 they start unloading some key veterans or some big contracts 263 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.559 to try to gear up for the next season or 264 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.000 at least replenish their farm system. 265 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.519 So you talked about, of course, the Dodgers Yankees. Who 266 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.519 do you think makes the biggest move in the in 267 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.879 the with a trade this year? Are there still moves 268 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.799 to be made? Do you do you hear things? Who's 269 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.360 gonna who's going to turn out with the best the 270 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.320 best new team moving forward with the trade? 271 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:38.000 Well, the Dodgers have always been aggressive and they have 272 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.480 the resources both with some of the talent they have 273 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.159 in the minor leagues, plus the revenue and the money. 274 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.360 Then we saw last off season their bullpen is still 275 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.799 an issue, and they've reportedly acquired about, for example, Mason 276 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.240 Miller from the Artist formerly known as the Oakland Athletics. 277 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.919 Camillo Douvall is another one that the Giants closer. But 278 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.480 I just find it hard to believe the Giants Dodgers 279 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:02.799 are going to get together on a trade where the 280 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.639 Giants would send their closer to their bitter arch rival. 281 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:08.679 But teams are going to go for it. They're going 282 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:13.720 to roll the dice knowing that everybody else is also 283 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.039 trying to better their team, and the only way to 284 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.759 do it is to be aggressive, and will teams overpay 285 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.879 And the teams that are the sellers are trying to 286 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:27.840 hold those teams in the club's ransom to try to 287 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.080 get the best deal, and they'll try to wait until 288 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.840 the eleventh hour to make a trade. But the Dodgers 289 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.960 are going to be aggressive, and it wouldn't shock me 290 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.960 if somebody like Detroit is aggressive or Toronto with how 291 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:42.919 well they're playing. Those are teams that feel that they 292 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.919 have a chance to contend it. And frankly, Scott, I 293 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:46.360 think the American League is wide open. 294 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:54.399 H Ryan Sandberg. Ryan Sandberg passes away this past He 295 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.000 was one of my favorite players. Loved Ryan Samberg. Actually 296 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.799 have a ball signed by Ryan Samberg. That's funny story, 297 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.200 but just loved him. Of course he died way too young. 298 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:05.759 Just kind of your thoughts on him. 299 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.720 First off, what a tremendous player, right, Rhino, what for 300 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.320 sixteen years you think of him with the Cubs, although 301 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.320 he was with the Phillies briefly as well, But to 302 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.159 pass away at sixty five is so sad. And he 303 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:21.759 fought cancer for a number of years. But that's a 304 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.919 part of my childhood, right, growing up watching Major League 305 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.960 Baseball and the Braves and the Cubs were basically on 306 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.879 TV every day and in every household if you were 307 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.320 a baseball fan, because they were on those superstations and 308 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.840 you got to see Harry Carey broadcasting, Ryan Sandberg and 309 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.759 Mark Grace and those great Cubs teams from the eighties. 310 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.720 And he was the dominant offensive second basement of his generation. 311 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:47.399 And what was it like, ten time All Star I believe, 312 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.919 but gold gloves that he won, Silver Sluggers, and he 313 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.559 was a no doubt Hall of Famer and just a 314 00:15:55.559 --> 00:16:00.000 phenomenal career that he was an MVP led the n 315 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:04.240 National League and homers one year. Just a tremendous player. 316 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:06.679 But also you hear the great stories about him off 317 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.120 the field and what a great person he was. And 318 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.639 that's what makes it even sadder, is just you lost 319 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.840 somebody so young. It's such an impact and was really 320 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.840 revered and loved by every Cub fan everywhere. 321 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:24.480 Yeah, well said, I really was upset by that because 322 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.279 the same I have the same thing. You know, Braves 323 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.440 and Cubs were in my living room, and he was 324 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:34.000 one of my favorite players. Speaking of baseball, we'll stay 325 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.200 on that for just a minut Major League Baseball, there's 326 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.200 there's been a lot of talk about Salt Lake City 327 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.639 potentially getting a franchise, and it seemed like, uh, they're 328 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.679 they're I don't want to say they're the team, but 329 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.159 they're certainly in significant consideration for a spot when expansion happens. 330 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.799 Do you get a sense that that's reality or are 331 00:16:54.799 --> 00:17:01.080 we just living a non reality life here in Utah. 332 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.759 No, I think it's realistic Scott, that Salt Lake City 333 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.240 could become a major League team. There's some issues that 334 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.039 Major League Baseball needs to get through. First, they need 335 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.000 to figure out the Tampa Bay situation. It appears they 336 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.000 have some clarity on that now, and they also have 337 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:20.160 to get I think some clarity on the athletics because Okay, 338 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:24.799 yes they did their quote unquote groundbreaking in Vegas. I'm 339 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.480 still not one hundred percent sold that they're moving to Vegas. 340 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:29.960 I don't think it's more than likely than not they 341 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.960 will end up there. But nothing having worked for an organization, 342 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.000 which I did for ten years, nothing would surprise me 343 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:40.240 with that team. Like could they go back to Oakland? 344 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.640 I think every option is on the table. Could they 345 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:47.160 stay in Sacramento. Could John Fisher, who owns the team, 346 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.079 get fed up with a situation and things are stalling 347 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.279 in Vegas because keep in mind, he's got to pay 348 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.160 for the majority of the ballpark himself, and as he 349 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.759 get frustrated and decide to walk away and look to sell. 350 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:03.720 And if that's the case, then would for example, Ryan 351 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.200 Smith be active about trying to get the major league 352 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.839 team there to Salt Lake City? We saw how aggressive 353 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.319 he was in pursuit of bring him. Then the Coyotes 354 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:16.319 up and now the Mammoth getting ready for their second 355 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.839 year and it is the whirlwin And how crazy it 356 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:24.359 was that how quickly that deal came together. But I 357 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.200 wouldn't rule anything out at this point. But I think 358 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.480 major League Baseball has some other issues Scott to deal 359 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.079 with as far as both Tampa Bay and the Athletics. 360 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.400 And I also think the whole labor situation because we 361 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:39.720 could be headed toward a lockout potentially after next baseball season. 362 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:46.079 Ooh, were you with the A's when they were doing Moneyball? 363 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:50.880 I was not? And when so when Moneyball that was 364 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:54.519 back the two early part of the early to mid 365 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:57.319 two thousands. I was working for the Marlins at the time. So, 366 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.799 but it was prevalent. You know, every buddy paid attention 367 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.599 to what Oakland was doing, and it just seemed at 368 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.039 the time that they were ahead of the game. What 369 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.119 Billy Bean was doing and he talked about were hard 370 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:12.599 counters at the casino, and they were creative about the 371 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.920 way they did things. And for example, the movie Moneyball, 372 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:21.519 really it cracks me up, to be honest with you, because, well, 373 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:27.359 for example, it featured Scott Hadiberg and Chad Bradford, who 374 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.039 were key players on that team. I'm not saying they weren't, 375 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:35.079 But what the movie neglects was the Aides had three 376 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:38.200 dominant ages at the top of the rotation. They had 377 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.759 Tim Hudson, Mark Bulder, and Barry Zito, and two of 378 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.160 those guys won Cyug Awards at one point in their career. 379 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:47.839 Yet it kind of gets glossed over in the movie. 380 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:50.240 And oh, by the way, that year they also had 381 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.359 the American League MVP in Miguel Tahata, which kind of 382 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.079 also doesn't really get featured in the film. And the 383 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.000 other thing, I hate to burst the fan out, there's 384 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:02.559 but you never had to pay for soda in the clubhouse. 385 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:06.720 That's complete hogwash. 386 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.119 I love this And Rudy wasn't wasn't real either, by 387 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:11.400 the way, I know that one too. 388 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:15.319 They had to make it more appealing, right, of course 389 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:17.359 they did for the audience. Oh, it was such a 390 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.400 great start. Chad Bradford, who is this, you know, submarine 391 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:23.720 specialist that comes in and Scott Hadiberg teaching him to 392 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.599 play first base. It's it's got to be more attractive 393 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.119 than talking about Moulder, Hudson and Zeno. 394 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:34.480 But don't you think that sports actually in its raw form, 395 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.519 I mean, you don't have to embellish it. There's plenty 396 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.720 of great stories that you know, you can just state 397 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.920 of the true true nature of them, and they're they're 398 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.599 very compelling. I don't know, I just I don't think 399 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.519 you have to embellish it to make it wonderful. 400 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.960 No, And look, the twenty game win streak was incredible. 401 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:55.240