WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:02.680 Welcome to my world, bitch. 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:26.160 Wow God good. 3 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.399 Here. 4 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.079 Happy Halloween listeners, and welcome to the one hundred and 5 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:42.439 seventy first episode of the Supernatural Occurrent Studies podcast. 6 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:45.880 So Spookily Paranormal. 7 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:48.240 My name is Jason Knight, host of the show, and 8 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:49.280 with me as. 9 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:52.359 Always is or Scott Specter. 10 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:59.960 Producer Extraordinary and podcast co host Oscar the Cinnamony Crisp. 11 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:00.920 This is in the air. 12 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:09.040 It is Halloween time. I mean it's October first for. 13 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.480 Me, it's it starts like September twenty five. 14 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:13.799 Oh yeah, no, I'd not. It's done been starting. I've 15 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.480 already been watching horror movies. Not that I need an excuse, 16 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:18.159 but I've been watching more. 17 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.159 Yeah. No, you never need an excuse for horror, but 18 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.640 you can just add more horror. Right tis the season? Yeah, 19 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:27.239 you know, we're kind of getting ready here, starting to 20 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:31.239 break out all the Halloween decorations and ordering more. We're 21 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.319 gonna be making some custom decorations. 22 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:36.640 When usually put up decorations. 23 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.879 We're probably gonna start this weekend. I want to get 24 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.519 my big twelve foot skeleton up this weekend. 25 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:42.040 Nice. 26 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.000 Yeah, and Nico's excited for it to help me put 27 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.959 that thing up. So yeah, love it, love it. 28 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.560 Yeah. I asked him what he wants to be this year. 29 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:52.879 He had no idea. 30 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.239 He's making something in the garage, like what his own 31 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:58.680 kind of Halloween and tell me that. 32 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.120 Yeah, yeah, punk, I. 33 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.239 Don't know what it's gonna turn out to be. But 34 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:07.359 it all started from he found like a folded up 35 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:11.719 hanger wire hanger in our shed and he just kind 36 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.039 of looked at it and suddenly now it's this whole 37 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:18.360 mask kind of thing with a working jaw, like these 38 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:20.639 big ear kind of things coming out of it, and 39 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.240 he's made like claw hands all out of like cardboard. 40 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.280 You know, it's good, it's pretty good. 41 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:26.879 Put him down for engineering school. 42 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:28.879 It's pretty interesting. I'll show you when you when you 43 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:30.080 go to leave, I'll show you the gage. 44 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:30.240 All. 45 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:33.879 But yeah, we're gonna I'm trying to make a fence, 46 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:37.439 like a cemetery fence, like a real one this year. 47 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.879 And so yeah, we're excited. And Halloween's on a Friday 48 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:42.319 this year. 49 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:43.840 It is a big deal. 50 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:45.080 Man, that is a big deal. 51 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.240 It's gonna be fun. Hopefully it's not too debilitatingly cold. 52 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:52.360 Fuck that's the only thing. Otherwise it's perfect time like 53 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:53.439 it Friday, you know. 54 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:56.319 Yeah, so obviously we're gonna have a big party here. Yes, 55 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.199 you're invited. Of course. You said you have a costume. 56 00:02:58.240 --> 00:02:59.080 Don't tell me what it is. 57 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:00.759 I'm not gonna tell you. I'm gonna show you. 58 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.439 I know quite a few people who are coming are 59 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.039 going to be dressing up, so that means my fans 60 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:04.960 has to find the costume. 61 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:06.520 I was gonna say, you have to this year, I 62 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.400 have to do something. Yes, what are you thinking? 63 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.280 I have no I have no a jelly bean. 64 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.439 I have no idea a jelly bean. Yeah, I think 65 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:18.439 that's what I supposed to. Now stop stop, I don't 66 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:19.800 know what's your jelly bean flavor. 67 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.960 Oh well, it's got to be like jelly belly and 68 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.719 like the popcorn flavor ones bubble gum flavor. 69 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.120 I would say, bubble gum is probably up there for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:30.520 I got that. 71 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:33.039 So now we've got to order all our full sized 72 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:33.719 candy bars. 73 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.039 You know. 74 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.120 So, I know you're not like type directly in my area. 75 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:39.599 But for some reason, and I thought it was just 76 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:43.080 me on this jay. So I take walks almost every 77 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:49.479 night to get physically better. It's an excuse to just 78 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.719 do not do something else. And I also I unplug 79 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.439 it too, like I'm almostly trying to do that, trying 80 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:58.759 to not be in my phone or you know, listening 81 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.000 to something all the time. So anyway, I would take 82 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.080 a walk, usually at least a mile up to three 83 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.879 or two or three miles. I walk around, and I've 84 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.840 been noticing more spiders. 85 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:13.879 Oh, just the name. I get goosebumps like this. 86 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:19.360 This past month September has been spidery. Oh. I noticed, 87 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.319 for example, I would walk by, there's a few blocks 88 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.439 away from my house. I would walk by that night, 89 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.800 of course, like midnight, one am, and I saw there's 90 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:28.879 a bunch of trees everywhere, and there was a there 91 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.639 was a tree there with a branch sticking out with 92 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.480 the leave sticking out, and there was this noticeable web 93 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:37.560 that was that the spider was so industrious it attached 94 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.439 itself to from the tree to a parked car. 95 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:41.279 Holy shit. 96 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.639 And the spider was like this big in the middle 97 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.240 chilling it already finished. 98 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.279 The size was about three inches what you showed right there, 99 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:51.480 I don't know, that's about. 100 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.399 Three inches that's your Is that three inches? About three inches? Okay? Whatever? 101 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:56.759 It was a big one and it was chilling there. 102 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:58.480 Sell the car. 103 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.040 Yeah, well, I don't know what owner did or anything. 104 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.319 But like next day or two, a few days later, 105 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.720 when I walked by the same area, obviously I didn't 106 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.079 notice that. I wasn't making I didn't know what kind 107 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:10.920 of car was, so I but I didn't see that 108 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.120 same So the car mustn't moved and the spider web 109 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.240 got destroyed. Right, But I saw that same I assume 110 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.839 it's the same spider industriously building a new one underneath 111 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:23.800 the like the branch and the cook of the tree 112 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.199 where the leaves start. I'm like, Okay, that's better. But 113 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.079 like I'm like, so, that's not the only time I've 114 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.360 seen tons of other sp I kept filling webs on 115 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.279 my face all the time, like I was a walk by. 116 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.800 I kept double checking. At one point I had my 117 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.240 sidewalk blocked off from a giant web a different area, 118 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.279 entirely different spider. I had to walk around. I had 119 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.000 to go into the street walk around to bypass it 120 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.000 because I'm not going to touch that. 121 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:53.920 And this wasn't a Halloween decoration. No, no, it's a spider. 122 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.759 It's They're all spiders. And I noticed one in my 123 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.560 car like two weeks ago, and must have been like 124 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.319 a baby one because I saw a little web in 125 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.120 my car. I'm like, oh, no, where are you? I'm like, 126 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.959 where are you living? No spider. 127 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.079 I do like spiders. I was fine with it, so 128 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.600 I didn't I haven't seen him yet. But my point 129 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:13.920 is that there every way, I thought it was just me. 130 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.560 But on TikTok I saw a few people complain about 131 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.000 it in Chicago. They're like, hey, is there more spiders 132 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:20.680 out there right now? Because I'm seeing them a lot 133 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.519 that night. And I'm like, maybe it's like a phenomenon. 134 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.639 What's going on? So I tried looking it up. I 135 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.000 couldn't find anything concrete on it, like any scientific you know, 136 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.639 any study or anything. But apparently people are noticing it. 137 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.399 It's not just me, and we might there's a there's 138 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:37.480 slightly more amount of spiders than we're used to. 139 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:42.399 I guess, Wow, that's glad I'm not around you. That's horrifying. 140 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.240 Yeah, that's I mean, I've seen I'm seeing around in 141 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:49.079 my house here and there. Occasionally I don't go because 142 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.480 they they eat too flies, and so I'm good with that, 143 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.959 but like otherwise, yeah, this lily has been more and 144 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.600 I'm there was one on my front porch that was 145 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.319 chilling out for a long time. It was like, it's 146 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.800 hard to explain, but it's like a little patio leaning 147 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.279 to the stairs down to the outside and between the 148 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.839 front door and the sidewalk there was like there's like 149 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.360 a railing. Then most of us never go to because 150 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.199 it's out of the way, it's by a window. We 151 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.600 don't touch the window. So this spider had his field 152 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:23.079 day there building a whole little lattice thing. But it's 153 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:24.759 gone now. Maybe one of my and my uncle or 154 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.480 somebody took it down. But it was chilling there. I 155 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.079 was like, that was the first. That was the first 156 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.000 notice I saw of a spider, and then there every 157 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.199 were now, so that's. 158 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.120 That's quite Halloween. 159 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.920 It's a Halloween story, Oh, I thought, So the. 160 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:39.959 Spiders are coming out. Well, it's been warm, so maybe 161 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.720 that's that's the thing. It's unseasonably warm. It should be 162 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.399 pretty cold now, so maybe something to do with the weather. 163 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:47.720 I don't know. I don't know. 164 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:49.600 Yeah, that's terrible. 165 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:50.160 Mm hmm. 166 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.879 I would sell the car, sell the house. I'm out. 167 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:54.560 I'm out. I hate spiders. 168 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.439 I know you do you know that, yes, so. 169 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.240 You have what else Halloween? What do you remember from Halloween? 170 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.560 Like like growing up? What was what was it like 171 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:04.839 for you? 172 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:10.720 I mean it was pretty basic. My parents they didn't 173 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:15.199 give a shit about Halloween that much. They also I've 174 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.920 also known them, I mean I've known them for my 175 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:21.160 whole life, of course, but they've had different stages, let's 176 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:27.839 just say, of giving a fuck about Halloween, like my 177 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.000 earli early years, like childhood, childhood, you know, from taller 178 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:36.759 to childhoodish they they didn't care, but they had fun 179 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:38.480 with it. So like you know, at those events, I 180 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:40.720 was a kid, sure, I'll go, I would. I would 181 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:42.799 dress up maybe here and there who were definitely took 182 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:50.559 a treat. That's when we lived on Austin and Nagel, 183 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.639 I want to say, Or maybe it was when we 184 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.639 lived on DayMen before it became like damen it is 185 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:59.919 now anyway, and we did that and then they got 186 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:06.399 triviligious around my second or second kid, my brothers and 187 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.639 my youngest brother's birth there or on that time, they 188 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.159 got way more into it, so they got way less 189 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.759 thanto Halloween as a as a thing at all. And 190 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.240 now they're like, oh mean doctors are all their kids 191 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:19.440 are older and the ship. But to them it's always 192 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.360 been like a kid candy thing and they don't give 193 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.759 a shit. So like my point is that it wasn't. 194 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:25.279 I don't remember how I don't have a lot of 195 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:29.720 great memories as a kid. Yeah, like no, not much 196 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:33.639 at all. I don't remember anything spooky or anything decoration. 197 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.720 I never I have a totally paper at a house. 198 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.720 I never. I remember. Sometimes I remember I have some 199 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.039 memories of trick or treating, but like nothing crazy. I never, 200 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.159 you know, ate so much candy that I threw off 201 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.440 or anything nothing like that. Yeah, yeah, nothing that you've seen. 202 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.039 But you I mean you were, you were you were 203 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:55.559 trick or treating way before the the the scare from 204 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:59.720 the eighties, right, yeah, yeah you were like this is 205 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:03.679 like you were in your original Halloween town, I think. 206 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.679 But I mean that was definitely obviously a thing grown up. 207 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:12.200 Was Yeah, poison candy, razor blades and needles in the candy, 208 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.600 razor blades in the apples and you know, shit like that. 209 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:16.639 You're always crazy? 210 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.720 How false that all was? All that was? 211 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:23.440 Yeah, I mean I don't know if it was entirely false. 212 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.360 I don't think it was an epidemic like they made 213 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:29.919 it seem. But I think there were definitely needles, razor blades, yeah, 214 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:31.200 kids candy for sure. 215 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.200 No, it's so because I read a thing about this, 216 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.080 not like a book, but like I think journalist, like 217 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.519 some articles or something about it. How because I was like, 218 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.440 they hype that up in the nineties. They maybe they 219 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.120 hyped it up in eighties too, I don't remember that, 220 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:46.879 but they hyped it up in the nineties right in 221 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.039 the news for that and still in the two thousands. 222 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:50.559 I'm sure they still do it today. 223 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.240 But still check our kids candy to this day. 224 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.399 Yeah, but I know it's for me. I started in 225 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.679 the nineties all that stuff on TV. And from what 226 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.559 I read about this, this thing I read this article 227 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:03.960 about the time, is that there was only two cases 228 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.799 of actually razor blades or poison and candy, and they 229 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.120 were both relatives that wanted to kill that specific kid. 230 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.840 Like it wasn't for anybody to eat, it was meant 231 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.080 that was targeted. Wow, So like and that was it. 232 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.480 There was only recorded cases and the country, of course 233 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.639 I don't mean in the world, but yeah, that's from 234 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.080 the nineties, and it was like some crazy like low 235 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.240 stat You thought it would be like more than that, 236 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:31.360 but no, it's not at all. Yeah, or at least 237 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:32.360 it wasn't. Maybe it is now. 238 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:34.679 Yeah, we were terrified that. I'm still afraid of it. Well, 239 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.320 now you gotta worry about drugs like slipping fentanyl laced 240 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:38.399 fucking No. 241 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:40.799 They wouldn't give it away like that. Yeah, they would 242 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.639 charge you for it if you would think. Yeah, I mean, 243 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.000 you gotta hook them on, but they got to know 244 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:47.080 who the cellar like, doesn't it's not a good business, trgy. Yeah, 245 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.159 you know, to just give fentanyl away like that. 246 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.399 It's fentanyl skittles or gummy bears or some shit. 247 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.000 I mean sure, it's already a drug. Doesn't need any help, true, 248 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:56.360 it does not need help. 249 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.720 You know. What we don't see anymore is like I 250 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.240 remember remember the Halloween parades the schools. 251 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.559 Would do like my school COVID killed all that, bro No, even. 252 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.039 Before oh was it was it there? 253 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.240 Before that? Yeah? 254 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.159 You would you would first of all dress up, go 255 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:11.200 to school dressed up. 256 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.440 I remember doing that. Oh yes, I remember that. Grammar school. 257 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.080 Or you go home for like lunch and dress up 258 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.600 and then come back and it would be a little party. 259 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.080 Then you're the whole school would like parade around the 260 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.919 neighborhood and you're thinking it would stand out and like, 261 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.840 you know, cheer for you and stuff, and you go 262 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:27.360 walk into the neighborhood. It was awesome. Fucking see anything 263 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:30.120 like that these days, man, ever with the kids. Yeah, 264 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.120 so for seventeen years, I haven't seen it, you know, 265 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.399 and so I wonder when that actually stopped. But it 266 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:36.879 was cool. 267 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.120 I know that COVID did kill a lot of the 268 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.919 you know, classic trick or treating house to house thing. 269 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.440 I know it killed that for sure. COVID around here, 270 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:46.399 like it was dying off already and then it killed 271 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.200 it most places, I mean, like certainly in Chicago. Like 272 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.519 I don't see it. I'm not saying that no one 273 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.519 does it that people it's coming back a little bit. 274 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.000 Every year is a little bit more, but I debite 275 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.320 don't see as much. I remember last year barely seeing 276 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.399 any but the year before that, I'm we're seeing a 277 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:02.960 lot more. So I don't know, maybe it's different times, 278 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:06.440 but yeah, it was just like anoicing decrease a lot 279 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.919 from COVID. So I don't know if that killed like 280 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.120 like maybe there was some sum par rates and that 281 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.000 just killed all of them out. You know, I don't know. 282 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:15.519 I don't know. 283 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:17.639 I would be curious if listeners if they still have 284 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.039 parades in their neighborhoods. I don't think it's the thing 285 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:20.840 any Maybe it's. 286 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.600 Not a small town thing nowadays. It's not like a 287 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.399 small community thing like that's it like a block party 288 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.919 and that's it. And only some places do it, yeah. 289 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:29.600 Like I do with a little big party and do 290 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:30.720 it yourself. I don't know. 291 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.360 Maybe that's the only way you see it alive. That's sad, 292 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:34.600 it's all, oh yeah, it's sad. 293 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.039 Yeah, but yeah, the trigger treating, of course, I remember 294 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.799 making pumpkin seeds, like that's a huge thing. 295 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:40.919 That you make pumpkins seas. 296 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.000 Yeah, bro, So that's a tradition I got from my mom, 297 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:44.840 you know, and I still do it with my kids. 298 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:45.080 You know. 299 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.720 You get your your jack O'Lantern, you carve it up right, 300 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:51.000 you scoop all the guts out, you wash away that 301 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.080 orange snot yeah, and you know then you get all 302 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.320 the pumpkin seeds out and we put them out. They're 303 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.200 still kind of wet on an old tin train that 304 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.960 we have for pumpkin seed making. You butter them and 305 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:04.879 you salt them and you throw them in the oven 306 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.320 for a while. Man, They're the best thing in the world. Really, 307 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.759 Pumpkin sea homemade pumpkin seeds. Oh yeah, Okay, Now I 308 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:13.440 got the kids into it and they do it and 309 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:14.600 it's great. 310 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.600 Yeah. Ever since I've got ever since I got my pets, 311 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.320 I do buy a pumpkin every year and they because 312 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:24.879 they love punkins, they love punkin seeds, they love pumpkin. Yeah, 313 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:26.799 so they eat that. Shut up. It's like they're one 314 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.200 annual treats. So that's cool. 315 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.440 What about costumes, Is there any costume grown up that 316 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:33.720 you specifically remember? 317 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.840 No, all my, all, my the costumes I remember, or 318 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.720 the costumes I put effort in. We're all as adults 319 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:41.960 like I've been. I've been doing it as adult pretty 320 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.480 much annually every year, even if it isn't like with you, 321 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.600 but at other events maybe that I go to throughout 322 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:51.519 the month, I'll do that. Like I have three costumes 323 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.159 for this year. Oh shit, one of the reserved for 324 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:56.639 for you on Halloween. Wow. 325 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.159 But like yeah, yeah, don't don't tell me what this party. 326 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.919 So like I I go, I don't go all out either, 327 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.159 but like I do, put effort into something different all 328 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:06.480 the time. 329 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.360 I remember one year came up. You had to park 330 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.799 quite a ways down and you were walking down the 331 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.159 street and I think that was a year you were 332 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:14.000 like a plague doctor. 333 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:15.039 Oh yeah, I still have that. 334 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.120 Nico was like, who is that? What is that walking 335 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.080 down the street. It's Uncle Osgar. 336 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:21.000 Yeah it was a cool. 337 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:25.440 Yeah. I don't put too much thought into costumes as 338 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.480 an adult, but I do remember. I remember my mom 339 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.159 dressing me up as Raggedy Andy. There was raggedy and 340 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.679 Raggedy Andy. Yeah, back in the day, in the eighties, 341 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.399 I was Raggedy Andy. I remember that. I remember Cookie 342 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.399 Monster being Cookie Monster. And I remember Rambo. I was 343 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:44.039 Rambo one year, so dating myself of course. But other 344 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.600 than that, then you had like the plastic. 345 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.399 Well your first blood or second blood. 346 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:53.600 Probably first blood. You had those plastic ass stiff kind 347 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:54.559 of costumes. Those. 348 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:57.879 I remember one of that knife and then the gun belts. 349 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.960 Bowie knife, the knife with a compass in it and stuff. Yeah, 350 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.360 I remember that, and I remember it was what during 351 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:12.200 one of those those school parades. One of my friends 352 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.759 who passed away now but his mom dressed him up 353 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.639 as a cannibal, so he was painted black head to toe. 354 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:21.799 You can't do that anymore. 355 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.960 You can fucking do whatever the hell you want. People 356 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:26.679 think it's cool. 357 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.360 This kid had an afro white. 358 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.080 I see, I think you meant like the cannibal idea 359 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:35.200 you're talking about. He was a black face. 360 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:36.799 He was completely that. 361 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.679 You can't do it. No, I mistaken, I missssed. 362 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.559 Yeah, that's say you can't do that anymore. But I'll 363 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.000 never forget it. I'll never forget it. It was kind 364 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:46.200 of fun. 365 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.200 I think the last time society allowed that to happen 366 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.440 was Robert Downey Junior in that one movie that I 367 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:50.960 haven't seen. 368 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:56.519 Yet, Oh a tropic thunder topic. And then getting older, 369 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.120 like that's kind of what I remember, and of course 370 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.679 trick or treating and things. But then when you get older, 371 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.519 that's when we became devious. That's when we would start 372 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.960 stocking up on eggs, like, you know, two months before Halloween, 373 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.559 so they would be rotten. Where you'd buy as much 374 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:14.559 shaving cream as you could, okay, and we'd melt. You 375 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.880 would you would stick a needle into the nozzle of 376 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.160 your shaving cream and you would light. You would melt 377 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.880 the nozzle around the needle. Then once it dries, once 378 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.039 it cools, you'd pull the needle out so you have 379 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.200 this little pinpoint hole for your shaving cream. And it 380 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.759 would shoot like twenty yards, you know, So then it 381 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.839 was fucking war dude. Then you had even older kids 382 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.079 in the neighborhood who would attack us, younger kids with 383 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.839 nair so like you know, it would like eat your hair, 384 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:43.839 yea in your head and ship. Oh yeah, then it 385 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:44.920 turned then. 386 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:46.279 That happened to me. I would kill you all. 387 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.680 Well, because your hair is like six feet long. Yeah, 388 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.519 Antonio Bendettas from dust till Don is what you look like. 389 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.160 Tony Benas wasn't from dustle Don. You're thinking of the 390 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:01.279 vampire movie? 391 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:04.599 It was not indust still done. What am I thinking of? 392 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:05.559 Intern with the vampire? 393 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.160 Literally interviewed with the vampire? 394 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.119 Yeah, and with that he I mean, it's a different 395 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:10.759 it's a vampire movie from the nineties, So you're not 396 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.200 that far off and you're fine. I'm not that I'm 397 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.200 not mad about it, but hopefully as long as you're 398 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.759 not mistaken turning by theirs with like cheech Marin, who's 399 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.440 the only other Hispanic twister. No, no, no, that's not true. 400 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:26.160 It's not the only spanning but mainly THEO. That's funny. No, 401 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.160 I was thinking of dressing up. I can. I could 402 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.640 pull because I have the hair. It's done, its hair 403 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:32.880 is done. I don't have to. All I do is 404 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.759 have a really nice, really nice clothing. Though. I need 405 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.519 that bad ass red cape. 406 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:37.960 Yeah. 407 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.799 If I could just get that bad ass red cape. 408 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.359 I'm almost home, almost home. 409 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:43.079 Let's work on it. 410 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:45.279 I should work on that. Yeah, I don't have that 411 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.119 this year, but maybe next year i'd be nice. 412 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.880 So yeah, I guess we got to get on with 413 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:50.319 the episode. 414 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:51.559 But oh, yes, that's right, Halloween. 415 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.440 I love it. Yes, it's in the air. We hope 416 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.839 you like this episode. Oscars Driving today, I. 417 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.480 Am driving driving. I just got my license renewed. UI. 418 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.279 They couldn't, they couldn't. It couldn't stop me for it 419 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.240 too long on that d UI. That judge was drunk 420 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:09.240 himself on stance, so I was able to get away. 421 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:10.559 So I'm driving this time. 422 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.519 Well, speaking of drinking, we have one hundred and eleven 423 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:20.720 Proof Blue Run poof poof one hundred and eleven Proof 424 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:24.440 Blue Run High Ride Whiskey all right, that's what we're 425 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.839 gonna be drinking or rye as I get to sit 426 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.960 back and just broke my broke. 427 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.119 The goods you got for picking. 428 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:37.359 So I could sit back and sit Well, you tell 429 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.200 this story and you take us a Halloween adventure. 430 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:47.319 Yes, m there you go. 431 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.839 Cheers my friend. Happy Halloween season. 432 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:53.759 Yes, let's take a break, shall we. 433 00:19:54.519 --> 00:20:25.519 Let's do it, listeners, welcome back to the show. Well, 434 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.839 the lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit, 435 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.119 and the cinnamony crispness is in the air. 436 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:36.039 I've said it again. 437 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.920 Let's start this show, Oscar. What do you have for us? 438 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.640 This lovely? Oh my god, I am driving the bus today. 439 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.599 It's the hearse man, the hearse You're driving these right? 440 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:51.920 You know they're bringing Sorry, it's reminding me. I don't 441 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:54.720 know why reminded me. But they're re releasing a trick 442 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:59.279 or treat in theaters this this mom trigger treat Sam. Yeah, 443 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.799 love it that. I think that movie came came back 444 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.880 stronger in people because some costumes for sale and stores. 445 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:11.480 Really I've seen like action figures and things cool. 446 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:13.759 I love how the movie just had a life of 447 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.440 its own after way after its release. 448 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.720 It's a big deal to be re released. I mean 449 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:18.839 that shows you if. 450 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:20.640 You ask young kids, not young kids, but like everyone's 451 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:23.640 younger than us. Young people younger, they know that movie. 452 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.039 They know Sam, Yeah, they know. And in that spirit, 453 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:27.599 that's what I have for you guys today. Have you, 454 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:29.559 guys ever seen the movie Trick or Treat? It is 455 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:34.359 Halloween season, that horror movie. Great fucking movie recommended. It's 456 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:36.640 it's about one night in Halloween in a small town, 457 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:39.799 but it's four or five different stories told in the 458 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.279 same night on Halloween, and there are all like different 459 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.400 variety of stories of different horror types. Ones about a vampire, 460 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:48.839 once about a serial killer, once about a witch. You know, 461 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.079 good mixed bag of different things, all fun, all on 462 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.720 the same level of funness. That's what that's about. That's 463 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.400 kind of how what I did, what I'm doing this 464 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:00.640 this this month. 465 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:02.839 So we're not just getting a single story. 466 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:09.440 No, I'm gonna no, right, why not? I like this, yeah, exactly, 467 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:11.359 kind of like Tales from the Crypt That's what I 468 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.279 was thinking, Like the old uh you know, I don't know, 469 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:17.000 like the episodic things, but also like not just a show. 470 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.240 But there was those movies right there, there was like 471 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:20.160 multiple stories. 472 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.960 Yeah, they'll have like three real short stories or. 473 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.920 Something in there. Yeah. I recently we watched Demon Night. 474 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:28.400 Oh with Billy's say. 475 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.079 Yes you know what. 476 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.079 I was a big Tales from the Dark Side fan. 477 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.759 Also very good. I haven't seen that in forever though. 478 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.319 The music, just the intro music to that, I don't show. 479 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.759 It's been so long. It's been since the nineties. That's 480 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:40.279 so long ago. 481 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.880 If I said, Oscar put in that clip here of 482 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.240 Tales from the Dark Side intro, would it appear now. 483 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.960 Man lives in. 484 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:13.000 The sunlit world of what he believes to be reality, 485 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:24.640 but there is unseen by most an underworld, a place 486 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:30.039 that is just as real, but not as brightly lit, 487 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:45.039 a dark side. 488 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:49.839 Only only time will tell or probably not. Okay, we'll see. 489 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:51.920 It would send me flying under the covers as a 490 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.599 kid when that sound played at like eleven o'clock or 491 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:56.160 whatever it was. 492 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.880 Yeah, now it is ballly fell my intro. What it 493 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:01.720 is this pro I'm going to give you the fair anyway, 494 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.759 here's a story. Here's what I wrote. All right, So 495 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.400 this week I have something a little stranger than the 496 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.440 usual thing we do here I like to explain my 497 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.920 thinking about how I approach today's show in the hopes 498 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.039 it'll prepare you listener as well as you jay about 499 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:19.000 where I'm coming from now in drips and drafts. Legally, 500 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.079 I've been writing about a Japanese serial killer, but have 501 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.599 had little luck in finding a good way to tell it. 502 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.440 So I had to eschew that. Knowing this is an 503 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.279 October show, I did manage to put undue pressure on 504 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:35.079 myself to come up with something unique and hopefully as good. 505 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.400 My research began in trying to find the evolution of 506 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:42.279 supernatural beliefs, many of which are rooted in religion, but 507 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.279 a lot or not. Actually from an article published in 508 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.799 twenty twenty three on human nature, a scientific study looked 509 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:53.960 into one hundred and fourteen geographically and culturally diverse societies 510 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:58.680 to help explain how supernatural beliefs bloom. It led to 511 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:02.880 some interesting conclusion, but decided to hold off that hold 512 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.839 on to that topic for a later time because that 513 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.640 subject requires more reading and way more understanding that I 514 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.160 was ready for you for this month, so but it's 515 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.880 a good idea still I like it right, So instead 516 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:16.640 I will be as I said earlier, just a minute 517 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:21.799 ago that I will be presenting four mysteries of different 518 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:25.359 shapes and sizes for you today. Everyone here knows that 519 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.920 I enjoy finding stories from around the world, as we're 520 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:32.079 often in good hands with Jay tackling horrendous shed here 521 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.079 at home. Most of the topics will be from different 522 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:38.480 countries except one one is homegrown, and I hope there 523 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.880 will be something for everybody. Low KEI. My favorite thing 524 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.400 about this type of research is that I can return 525 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.160 to it later on. A little thing about myself as 526 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:51.119 a secondary researcher out of chew host is that I 527 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.319 have a list, a long list, surprisingly long list of 528 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:58.839 potential topics for future shows. A grand majority of those 529 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:03.519 topics are actually not very good topics. They're busts or 530 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.759 they're worse or I said either they're busts because they 531 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.920 like they're too short, or too easily verifiable, maybe like 532 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.200 to like to hoaxy maybe or something like that, or 533 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.839 like too stringy to make a whole meal out of, 534 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.599 like it's not long enough to be a show. But 535 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.599 for this top you know, for this kind of story, 536 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.279 it is. So I imagine I'm your crypt keeper today 537 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.039 and I will be presenting four tales of mystery just 538 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:31.920 in time for Halloween. Please tell us your favorite. Yeah, 539 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.759 so the first story is called I sort of title 540 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.240 them all, but whatever, La mancha negra, which is Spanish. 541 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.680 So for this story we will be traveling to Caracas, Venezuela. 542 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.000 I'm not sure how to categorize this story, but the 543 00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:55.359 supposed cost of over eighteen hundred deaths, many accidents and 544 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.839 anxiety came not from a cryptid serial killer or ghost, 545 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:05.559 but from a substance. One day in nineteen eighty six, 546 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.839 construction workers fixing a patch of the highway between Carakas, 547 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.759 which is the capital city and its airport, noticed a 548 00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:18.559 black smudge around forty six meters in length. The smudge 549 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:23.400 was soon named La mancha negra, which translated English means 550 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.880 the black stain, And that was named by Karakan citizens. 551 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.000 And this is a weird substance, to say the least. 552 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.680 Another name people use was the black goo. Goo is fun. 553 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.359 Who is a fun word? So I'll be interchangeably using 554 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.799 the black stain black goo means the same thing. 555 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.160 I just want you to know. I'm biting my tongue 556 00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.640 so hard. Why so many things I want to say 557 00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.359 about what and make fun of those two words, the 558 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.160 black oop, the black stain, and the black woop, but 559 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.839 I'm not going to do it. 560 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.680 Oh yeah, it's there an adult. Well, the fact that 561 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.839 you mentioned that you have something, it makes you less 562 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.359 adulty a little bit. But I'm glad you're holding off. 563 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.640 Hold off, loll off on the diarrhea talk. I assume 564 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.279 it's diarrhea. Was it to Centeria? I don't know what 565 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.640 you're doing anyway. The scope and breath of this Black 566 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.680 Stain lasted four years, enough for me to find the 567 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.680 book published in two thousand and six by a reporter 568 00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:21.240 named Anna Elena Asputia, And the title is very long 569 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.279 and in Spanish, so I'll just translate it for you. 570 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.839 The book is roughly titled The Black Stain The Splendor 571 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:31.519 is Debacle of the Caracas Giatra Chronicles, Reports and Testimonials 572 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.960 of the Highway. Wow, it's a long title. It's very wordy. 573 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.279 I didn't have access to the entire book, but I 574 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.240 managed to read a nice chunk for the show. The 575 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.519 construction crew I mentioned earlier was patching up a thirty 576 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:48.119 year old asphalt when discovering the strange goo. A forty 577 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.799 six meters stain on a highway, even on an important 578 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.160 road like the one that leads to the airport, wouldn't 579 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.839 be all that bad, except that pretty soon after they 580 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.319 discovered it, the black stains spread for eight miles, specifically 581 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.480 from Simon Boulevard International Airport to the city of Krakas, 582 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.839 which I said earlier as the capital of Venezuela. The 583 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.839 black staying was pretty consistent, managing to appear solely on 584 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.279 roads on nothing else. The tenacity of this unknown substance 585 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.960 made no sense, and was reported to rise and spread 586 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.640 when the weather was hot and rainy, and then contract 587 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:32.720 when the weather was cold. If that makes sense to you, 588 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:33.759 stay away from me. 589 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:35.119 It's none. 590 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.920 It does not make good. Its good because I want 591 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.039 to be friends with you. This black gu led to 592 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:46.440 many vehicular accidents and several deaths, though unconfirmed. One of 593 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.240 the dark but predictably human things about this story is 594 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:54.279 how politics enter into it, and unconfirmed casualties and monetary 595 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.680 involvement are the prime reasons. But I'm getting ahead of myself. 596 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.960 So what is the substance and how bad did it get? 597 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.880 Defining the black stain became a troublesome thing when researching 598 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.839 because it's hard to say for sure what the substance 599 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.799 is made out of or made of. Quote. Among the 600 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:18.119 most mystifying aspects of La Mancha Negra are its unique properties. 601 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:23.240 At times, its consistency has been compared to sticky substances 602 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.880 like tar or chewing gum. On the other hand, it 603 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:31.559 also reportedly slippery, making the roads surface akin to driving 604 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:37.799 on ice. Indeed, news reports told of numerous accidents caused 605 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.279 by this black coup as motorists struggled to maintain control 606 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.599 of their vehicles, especially in areas where it was reported 607 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.519 up to one inch thick. Right, super gross, you I 608 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.119 mentionine eating that thing. There was no way. Kids didn't 609 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.160 dare other kids to eat that. Right, they must have 610 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:59.839 done that. There's no way that didn't happen. I'm six 611 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.599 years old and I get double dog there. I think 612 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:06.279 I will eat it. All right, That was pretty easily 613 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.599 fooled as a kid. Anyway, moving on, there are theories, 614 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.559 right quite impressure more, there are theories as to what 615 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.000 the black stain is made of. One theory is that 616 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.759 raw sewage mixed with the unnatural composition of a road 617 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.640 led to the substance. Specifically, the sewage chemically deteriorating and 618 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.599 mixing with the asphalt that can potentially make it slimy 619 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.599 and unique to roads only and staying away from grass 620 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.920 or other buildings because it did it stayed away from 621 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.519 those of those things. This theory isn't high end the 622 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.880 list due to the fact that it doesn't explain the 623 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.079 weather dependent behavior of the black stain. Natural oil see 624 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.920 pitch from underground reservoirs is another reason. People have theorized 625 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.559 that seismic activity could account for the strange phenomenon and 626 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.759 location of a black stain, but it fails to explain 627 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.039 how how it could rise, as heavy oils tends to 628 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:08.599 seep down, not up. So the most popular theory, especially 629 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:13.039 with the Venezuelan kids on TikTok that I saw, is 630 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.640 that it's pollution, a mixture of industrial waste, car emissions, 631 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.559 oil residues that mixes with the rain water and why 632 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.720 it rises through the cracks. Solid theory, but it fails 633 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.559 to explain why the stain is localized to an eight 634 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.480 mile area like it should be everywhere a right or 635 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.319 more places. Okay, my favorite, it's my favorite theory. My 636 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.039 favorite is that the black stain is alive We've all 637 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.400 heard the expression life finds a way, and we've all 638 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.519 seen how resilient nature can be as we see weeds 639 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.960 and what not sprout from huge cement laggers on the street. Right, 640 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.440 what if the substance is microbial, microbial about in nature 641 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.119 or fungal in some way A fungus can help explain 642 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.960 its need to ex band and how it can materialize 643 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.079 in the dark underbelly of a road. The problem here 644 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.400 is that scientists supposedly have found nothing living in what 645 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.160 they studied of the black stain, like under a microscope. 646 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.240 But I like to think that the deeper you go 647 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.519 into the ground, the more likely you'll find the live fungal, 648 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:24.079 whatever the origin of the gu but that has not 649 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.359 been proven yet. That's one theory. That's my favorite one. 650 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.559 There are more theories, but I'm saving them for later. 651 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.319 The black stain began as a nuisance but turned deadly 652 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.039 at times with how slippery and thick the substance could get. 653 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.039 Another weird trait of the gu god a loosying ghu, 654 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.079 is that it enjoyed pooling itself in tunnels where you 655 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.480 can't see shit by the way, and it would also 656 00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.440 pull itself on uphills in the uphill portions of the road, 657 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.119 like it made no sense, like it would enjoy itself 658 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:00.160 in tunnels and uphill areas more presumably. 659 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.000 Dark dank tunnels in the yes. 660 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.920 Right, yes, taxi drivers would charge more for rides to 661 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.480 and from the airport and often not take a ride 662 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.599 if it was raining or if it was particularly hot 663 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.480 or cold that day, because they didn't want to die. 664 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.440 You know, since roadside maintenance and innovations is rarely our 665 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.920 priority for any country, it certainly wasn't for Venezuela, which 666 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.880 means everything took longer and therefore more money before the 667 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.000 government took the black stains seriously. And here is where 668 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.639 politics enter the story. That book I mentioned earlier with 669 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.360 the long title clued me into the thinking of the 670 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.960 people living in Venezuela in the eighties and nineties. They 671 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.199 really didn't trust the government to either listen to them 672 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.519 or fix the problem. The nuisance of the black stain 673 00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.800 was just that for the most part, and while they 674 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.960 blamed their Ministry of Transportation and Communications for being lazy, 675 00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.239 they also blamed the presidencies. One of the theories I 676 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.159 haven't said is that people believed it was a political 677 00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:07.960 hoax to unseat President Jaime Lucinchi, who was in office 678 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:11.280 from eighty four to eighty nine nineteen eighty four nineteen 679 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.199 eight nine. Carlos andres Pes took office in eighty nine 680 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.719 and saw major riots, a deep economic crisis, and two 681 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.320 coup attempts before he was finally impeached for corruption in 682 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:31.280 nineteen ninety three. Specifically, Pedes had misappropriated two hundred and 683 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.119 fifty million bolivadies for his own interest. While his predecessor 684 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.639 could be blamed for being lazy, it was pez that 685 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.159 was blamed in a conspiratorial way of causing the black 686 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.199 stain to begin with. I mean he certainly used it 687 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.039 in public a few times in office, like as a 688 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.800 scapegoa to maybe spend money to ciphon off money for himself. 689 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.800 Oh I'm gonna solve this problem with a black dude. 690 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.519 Right, I'm gonna spend I'm gonna, like, you know, no 691 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.599 writ matter how much it costs, because it's not not 692 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.719 going to pay for it, right kind of thing. His 693 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:09.239 presidency is the reason why much of the data surrounding 694 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.440 the black Stain is unconfirmed. In nineteen ninety one, it 695 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.239 was reported that the black stain caused over one thoy 696 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.480 eight hundred debts and countless car accidents since nineteen eighty 697 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.679 six when it began. If you think onellogically, it makes 698 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.159 no sense for the people living in and around Krakas 699 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.119 to have such a high death toll. People saw the 700 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.440 black stain La Mancha Negra as a bothersome aspect of 701 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.400 their lives. There were signs on the road leading to 702 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.599 the Simon Bolivar International Airport to watch out for the 703 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.559 black stain and people need to avoid, and they took 704 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.519 care of it. The likelihood of eighteen hundred debts is 705 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.320 very low in my opinion, or at least or maybe 706 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.800 people were just that fucking stupid, but I don't think so. 707 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.159 It was publicly stated by the Perez administration that millions 708 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.639 of believe it as was spent in trying to ascertain 709 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.400 the chemical properties of the black stain, as well as 710 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.800 contracting businesses to help get rid of it. Spending the 711 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.000 money is true, but where that money was siphoned onto 712 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.320 is another thing altogether, And hindsight is twenty twenty, especially 713 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:18.440 when dealing with corrupt leaders, so it's probably an exaggerated number. 714 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.800 This probably isn't nowhere near that many kills. But everyone 715 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.360 was aware at the black stain. People just got used 716 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:24.599 to it. 717 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:26.599 You know, this is a part of our life now. 718 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.000 It is. It is. Yeah, So let's get into some 719 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.079 of the attempts they used to try to get rid 720 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.840 of it, right, The Ministry of Transportation and Communications try 721 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.320 to pressure wash the black stain away layer by layer, 722 00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.599 but failed to keep it at bay. Deturgent scrubbing and 723 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.559 resurfacing pavements sectionally with asphalt also proved to be futile, 724 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.039 so they. 725 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.360 Would lay asphalt on top of it and Boomer would 726 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:52.920 come through again. 727 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.119 Yep. Wow. What ended up kind of working is the 728 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:02.239 use of pulverized limestone, which was hoped to be absorbed 729 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.599 by the black stain and improve traction on the road 730 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.239 at the same time. This solved the issue, but at 731 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.199 a cost. The limestone created a visual impairment for drivers, 732 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.480 and it made the air hard to breathe because it's dusty. 733 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:17.800 Oh got it. 734 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.360 Yeah, pularized limestone goes up, you know, like saying I 735 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.719 guess or yeah whatever, yeah, where was I fuck? 736 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:29.000 Thank you? 737 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:33.639 Regardless, once the dust settled, the goo was gone until 738 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.880 it was surfaced in nineteen ninety six. From here on out, 739 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.320 the name of the game became clean up, if not containment. 740 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.960 Other countries were consulted. This is after Perez was impeached. 741 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.079 By the way, other countries were consulted, and special cleaning 742 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.119 equipment from Germany proved to solve the issue. I tried 743 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.159 and couldn't find what equipment was used, but I guess 744 00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:00.159 it was specialized. Maybe the Black Stain returned into two 745 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.239 thousand and one and all manner of conspiracy theories along 746 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.239 with it. This is where the Black Stain became kind 747 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.039 of famous, because the Internet was around two and I 748 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.679 think it started circling the wagons in our neck of 749 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.599 the woods and our supernatural talks stuff. This is when 750 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.960 it started coming out more. It's clear that this is 751 00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:23.320 an ongoing dilemma for Venezuela, but a manageable one. They treated. 752 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.480 They just treated like that's like cancer and remission or something. 753 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.800 But even that's too that even that's too extreme really 754 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.639 of an example, but something like that. People no longer 755 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.119 believe that Perez is the reason the Black Stain exists, 756 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:42.880 but that he only used it when he saw fit. 757 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.400 Others believe that like crop circles in the US and Britain. 758 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.119 It is a perpetual hoax that changes hands from generation 759 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.760 to generation as political forever rise and fall. That's like 760 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.159 one of their theories too. Here's the most logical reason 761 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.400 for the black stain. Not sure if you're aware, but 762 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:07.000 Venezuela has the largest natural crude oil deposits in the world. Specifically, 763 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.719 they have a territory called the Orderinoco Belt like Goorinoco Flow, 764 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.159 which has the grand majority of set oil, and it 765 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.159 neatly lies underneath the area that the black stain originates from. 766 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.440 Combine that fact with the high probability that the Krakas 767 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.639 Giara Highway was simply made poorly a long time ago, 768 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.280 probably too many aggregates in the asphalt and the older 769 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.360 cheap oil using cars, and you've got a specific stain 770 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:41.679 that makes up La Mancha Negata. Remember, gas is cheap 771 00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.199 there and overall has been cheap in Venezuela because they 772 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:48.559 don't need to import it. But it does logically suggest 773 00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:52.559 the heavier use of vehicles and older models that rely 774 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.280 on less environmental friendly substances to run them, and that 775 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:02.079 may explain why it's so heavy polluted there in that 776 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.920 way and creating the black stain. What do you think. 777 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:11.760 That's Uh so, so if it's just naturally occurring crude 778 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.880 oil that they know exists already, how are they not 779 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.880 able to chemically decipher that? 780 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.519 Right? Like, so it's just nothing's been confirmed about it, 781 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.519 Like if they know the answer by now, they just 782 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.880 haven't said it. I haven't found any official reporting on 783 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.800 it yet. Wow. So either that or they don't care 784 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:29.800 to tell people. And maybe they know, but just too 785 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.920 much oil. I mean, obviously they need it for their country, 786 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.119 so they just, like said, they just deal with it. 787 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.480 It just reminds me of the Blob or something. That's 788 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.159 pretty cool, right, and uh, we're saying eighteen hundred deaths. 789 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:44.920 Probably the fact that it's black too, I feel it 790 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.679 lends a lot to the oil thing to sure. 791 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.519 Yeah yeah, but that you know, it took forever for 792 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.119 someone to give a shit out. Yeah, first give a shit. 793 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.039 Till mid nineties before they really actually sent people down 794 00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.480 there to clean it, like for real, Like yeah, that's yeah, 795 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.239 that's wild. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, it's a real thing though. 796 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.599 Interesting and it's had books written on it, so obviously, 797 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.239 I mean it's pre interested in this. 798 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.519 Yeah, you have to kind of go through the the 799 00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.039 shitty articles are just hypothesizing saying that it's alien shit. 800 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:16.880 You know a lot of people are talking about aliens 801 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.440 in this one, like that the black who is alien 802 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.840 in nature, rising it from the ground or something. It's not, obviously, 803 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.920 I don't think so anyway. But that's the that's when 804 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.840 you get real crazy, right Yeah, okay, yeah, interesting, the 805 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.599 real thing. Venezuela Black Stain. Yeah, I went on I 806 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.679 went on their TikTok because I have a VPN, so 807 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.480 I just changed to Venezuela and I went on their 808 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.159 TikTok and I saw some of their stories. What were 809 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.000 they saying, Oh, basically, one of what I'm saying is 810 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.519 like that people think it's like corruption based on government 811 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.079 and they really don't like that administration at all. One 812 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.079 of them do. So they were saying that, like, oh, yeah, 813 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:54.920 my dad will talk to me about this story about 814 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.360 the whole black stain thing, you know whatever. It was 815 00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:57.639 like that. 816 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.239 It kind of reminds me of loosely of the this 817 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.920 whole viral thing that's going on right now TikTok Instagram 818 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.760 YouTube of that kid. I want to say it was 819 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.159 like Columbia. I could be wrong with South America with 820 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.760 the meteorite that crashed in his yard or somewhere near 821 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:17.880 his home. You haven't seen this, no, dude, it's everywhere. 822 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.800 Meteorite long and short. He's chronicling this whole thing that 823 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.440 he's experiencing. Meteorite crashes somewhere down in South America. I 824 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.880 want to say it's Columbia. He retrieves the meteorite. Suddenly 825 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:33.760 the meteorite starts sprouting this organism. Oh and this organ 826 00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.199 is organism is growing and people actually believe it, like 827 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:41.639 they're saying it's one hundred percent real, right, like annihilation, yeah, 828 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.639 or like venom, right, like they just oh yeah, it 829 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:44.719 looks like venom. 830 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:48.039 It moves, it grows, it mutates. 831 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.760 It's it's wild. It's black, right, it's the goo. It's 832 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.760 like a black goo kind of fungus sort of thing. 833 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.760 Yeah right, yeah. 834 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.039 And now he finally let it loose and now it's 835 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.199 swimming in some water somewhere and this thing and it 836 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.480 it moves it like snaps and pops. 837 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.119 It's the weirdest thing, okay. 838 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:10.039 And it's a spiky, spiny, stringy, very wild, very weird. 839 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.199 But people swear it's real, that this is an outer 840 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.280 space organism. 841 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.639 No, I'd have to see it for myself and that. 842 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.159 Yeah, dude, just google it, you'll find it instantly. It's 843 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:19.880 everywhere right now. 844 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.559 I know how I could believe that in this day 845 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:21.880 and age. 846 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.039 That's what I think you would think, Like maybe not NASA, 847 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.760 but some other you know, alphabet agency would kick down 848 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.320 that door. Yeah, and steal this thing if it was real, 849 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.840 but maybe not, who knows, But that's kind of what 850 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.440 it loosely reminded me of some I get it extra track. 851 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.760 Yeah, this thing and never gave any indication it's alive though. 852 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.159 It would just seep out. That's it. It was just 853 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.000 pool and bought and book people's days. That's really it. 854 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.800 It's an annoyance. It really becomes annoyance. Yeah, if you 855 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.880 ask them the Venezuelan's, I mean, they would say it's 856 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.400 just something they have to do with. Okay, Yeah, so 857 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.079 there's that next story, Next story story too, story two. 858 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.039 Somebody just show the last one is longer? 859 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:01.920 Do these progress? 860 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.320 Do they get? Like? No, I just mixed the match them. 861 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.079 I was thinking of doing that. I was having them 862 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.159 in a certain order, but I went from the bookends 863 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:12.480 are the longer stories and the middle ones or the 864 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.280 shorter ones. That's really the only thing. 865 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:15.320 Okay. 866 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:21.559 The next one's called we know what, I'll just uh yeah. 867 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.159 The title is the Wedge of Ayod. 868 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.239 What is it? 869 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:25.440 The Wedge of Ayud? 870 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.079 The Wedge of Ayud? 871 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:31.360 Never heard of that? Okay. The next story is a 872 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.239 weird little story. This isn't about a disappearance or phenomenon, 873 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.039 but a mysterious object. Have you ever heard of an 874 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.920 out of place artifact or upa for short? I have, yes, Yes, 875 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.480 this is what's That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking 876 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.000 about one of those. 877 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:48.159 Okay, I like these these are fun. 878 00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.199 Okay, so you've got you heard it? I figured you 879 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:51.159 what but you no? 880 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.639 No, it's and for listeners who old I yes, please, 881 00:45:53.639 --> 00:46:02.320 who don't know, they'll find like a machined right, something 882 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:05.039 that's been machined in that the bolt, right we use 883 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:08.639 every single day, embedded in rock that's like. 884 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.559 That's older than that, older than the industrial age that 885 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.679 it came from, right, yes, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. 886 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.119 Or you know something that looks like in Adidas shoe. 887 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.960 I saw one time that's embedded in this ancient sediment. 888 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:23.559 You know what I mean? 889 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.199 Right, like a tomb of some king has like you know, 890 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.559 Nike Air Jordans or something like that, right exactly, it's 891 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.199 like that out of place. Well, here's the wicked definition 892 00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.840 that I like to use, and upa as an artifact 893 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:41.400 of historical archaeological or paleontology palaeontological interest to someone that 894 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.960 is claimed to have found in an unusual context, which 895 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.039 someone claims to challenge conventional historical chronology by its presence 896 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.840 in that context. Basically what Jay said. Basically, things that 897 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.519 shouldn't exist when they're discovered. Say if you were to 898 00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:59.800 discover an underground cave system that has been naturally sealed 899 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.400 for hundreds or thousands of years, and then you find 900 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.760 an American penny in there. This didn't happen. It's just 901 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.679 an example. But it's easy to jump to time travel 902 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.000 or some other crazy supernatural cause when it probably means 903 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.079 that the cave system must have been disturbed at some 904 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.239 point that you haven't found most likely, right, like like 905 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:24.519 the what's the what's the driving now? The simplest solutions 906 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.920 usually the right one. Where was that some OKM racer 907 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.480 I was trying to think of that. Okay, it's like 908 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.679 a racer anyway. So my first thought for this section 909 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.480 is to highlight three different objects of varying degrees of 910 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.679 believable believability, throwing a hoax perhaps, but decided to focus 911 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:48.719 on only one upas may be a future story and 912 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:52.800 by like a future show all by themselves. Right, there 913 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:56.440 are a lot of them at The object in question 914 00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.519 is called the wedge of Ayod. I think I'm pronouncing 915 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.800 that right, I really obi. Ayoud is the name of 916 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:08.079 a city located in Alba Alba County in Transylvania's Region 917 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.159 in the country of Romania Bromini. In nineteen seventy four, 918 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.840 a construction crew excavating a site near the Muirs River 919 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:22.360 discovered two mastodon bones dating back to at least eleven 920 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.360 thousand years old, as well as the wedge of Iyod 921 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.039 under thirty five feet of sand. The wedge is a 922 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.679 piece of metal found within the bones. The reason people 923 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.639 got excited over this metal is that it was aluminum. 924 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.840 This aluminum alloy wedge weighed about five pounds and was 925 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.840 heavily rusted because oxidized aluminum didn't exist until the eighteen twenties, 926 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:48.920 and this wedge was found within remains of the Masadon bones. 927 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.039 People believe that either aliens or time traveler left it behind. 928 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.440 The metal urgent test on the wedge demonstrating the following 929 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.440 elemental results eighty nine percent aluminum, six point two percent copper, 930 00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.039 two point eighty four percent silicon, one point eight one 931 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.679 percent zinc zero point four to one lead zero point 932 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.679 three three eight ten, a little bit of ziconium and 933 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:18.119 traces of cadmium, nickel, cobalte and bismuth. None of these 934 00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.440 elements are feign to Earth. It's all natural here, okay, 935 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.679 so not a Moralian, it's my point quote. According to postings, 936 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.159 the wedge was donated to the History to the Sorry 937 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.760 to the Museum of the History of Transylvania. The story 938 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:38.960 was later broken. In nineteen ninety five, r Ufo R four, 939 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:45.119 a Romanian UFO magazine, published a piece after Florian Georgiita 940 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.679 rediscovered the wedge. It was tested at the Archaeological Institute 941 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:55.639 of kluj Nepocha. I'm butchering these names and the Swiss lab. 942 00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.039 Georgia further asked a series of professionals to examine the 943 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:06.199 artifact and claims that an aeronautical engineer identified the wedge 944 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.239 as a piece of landing gear on a vetal type 945 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:16.000 of craft. VETO stands for vertical takeoff and landing. This 946 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.480 last part is where people took the alien theory hard right. 947 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:25.079 What is strange about Florian Georgia is how did he 948 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:28.760 stumble across the wedge are hired? Like, did he one 949 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.519 day decide to invade the Museum of the History of 950 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.559 Transylvania in the hopes of finding something cool, or did 951 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.519 someone tell him about it about the artifact twenty years 952 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.880 later after they discovered it. From what little I could find, 953 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.320 the artifact was stored in the closet somewhere until Florian 954 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.679 found it. It wasn't displayed, not even close. It was 955 00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:52.519 never displayed, which could say something a little more about 956 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.599 the Florian guy, but we'll talk about that later. Furthermore, 957 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.880 none of my research helped explain why people simply sat 958 00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:02.519 on this for so long. It's possible that popularity for 959 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.920 the mass at on bones and the wedge of Ayod 960 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.440 was minimized so that the construction crew work in the 961 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.639 area could continue working without interruption or massive red tape 962 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:17.119 like bureaucratic red tape. But I have no definitive answer 963 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.480 as to why they sat on it for twenty years. 964 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.360 Here's where I'm gonna brush your bubble though. The wedge 965 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.280 of Ayod to me, sits in the middle tiger of 966 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:31.199 an UPA, which stands for out of place artifact, believable 967 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.760 enough to run with it, but also with scientific logic 968 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:38.840 to dispel it. Here's the case that the wedge of 969 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.960 Ayod is nothing special to behold. Since heavy machinery was 970 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.920 used to excavate the site back in nineteen seventy four, 971 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.639 most people say that the wedge is simply an excavator 972 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:53.119 bucket tooth that broke off at the site and was 973 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.320 later mistaken as an artifact. The metal piece has been 974 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:01.559 defined due to its composition as a series two thousand 975 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:08.400 aluminum alloy, which was common in aerospace, military vehicles, rocket fins, 976 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.559 and other heavy machinery like excavators. Because there is a 977 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.800 twenty year gap between discovery and testing, the simple act 978 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:20.440 of finding the same machine could just not be done. 979 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.840 There is no way to there's no way of confirmation, 980 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.880 but logic that dictates that the wedge is a misplaced item, 981 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.119 not an artifact. That is me bursting your bubble right 982 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.199 now on this. 983 00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.159 One, especially when you said the bucket tooth. 984 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.840 Now I can see it perfectly, perfectly, perfectly. I love 985 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.239 this type of French mystery because it closely ties science 986 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:46.199 and it's supernatural, like more than usual all hoaxes aside, 987 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.559 and there are plenty of hoaxes out there. It speaks 988 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.960 about how we uncover and see history, and you realize 989 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.000 that the more advancement we make in science, the less 990 00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.840 supernatural these objects become. And that's a good thing. Oopa's 991 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.360 also highlight humans his ability to be pretty fucking stupid 992 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.840 about what and how we find objects. However, what is 993 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.960 a supernatural and not something that science has yet advanced 994 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.039 enough to understand? Yeah, and that's that story. 995 00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.440 Yeah, those are sorts are fun. I remember seeing one 996 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.440 that was a gear, something that was perfectly a perfect 997 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.360 gear that again was embedded in some rock that was, yeah, 998 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:27.679 you know, thousands of years old, how the fuck? Like? 999 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.440 Right, that's the strength and some of the lejed mysteries, 1000 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.440 some of le Jed you don't know why or how, 1001 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.400 And those are the standouts, right, the clean of the crop, 1002 00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.119 and some are clearly hoaxes, like they're trying to gen 1003 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:41.719 up something and this and then this one's like an accident, 1004 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.920 a real accident, but like a provable accident, right, you know. 1005 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.760 You know, I didn't know what you were talking about today, 1006 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:50.960 so I don't have any information to find on it, 1007 00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:55.920 specific information. But there's like the Greek computer or. 1008 00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.920 Something like like a long name with a T. 1009 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.199 Yeah. They pulled it up from like underwater and it's. 1010 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.440 That was there a real yeah. Right about this is 1011 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.000 that it's like a computer from again a long time ago, 1012 00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.719 A long time ago. Yeah, like ancient Greece time, the 1013 00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:12.639 time of like Rome and all that ship. You know, 1014 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.519 it's Greise made when Greece uh had a name. 1015 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.559 For themselves, right yeah, exactly. Uh So stuff like that 1016 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.079 just bizarre, just really bizarre stuff. 1017 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.719 I should I should find that name because I remember 1018 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.639 that was that was one of my lists a long 1019 00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.119 time ago. I lost that one out as I forgot 1020 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:32.880 about that machine. And it's a good story. 1021 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.400 They like restored this thing. Yeah, it looks like it's 1022 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:40.480 brass or something. Yeah, it's this beautiful machine. You know 1023 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.360 that that should not exist, right, right, that's a great 1024 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.440 episode topic, actually, right, we should do that. Maybe that's 1025 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:49.320 what I'll do. I'll start working on that one. 1026 00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.239 Yeah that can be fun. 1027 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.159 But yeah, good good. I like that opus. 1028 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.039 I like to say that ands and oopus. I think 1029 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.239 that's why I put that next. This next one doesn't 1030 00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:59.440 have a cool fun name though. For the next one. 1031 00:54:59.519 --> 00:54:59.960 Third story? 1032 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.119 Do you want more whiskey? 1033 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.000 No? Good step offering me right anyway? Next story, I'm 1034 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.880 calling the Red Rains of Kerala. Have you heard of 1035 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.679 this one? The red rains? The rains of Castimir? 1036 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:12.239 You s what I do there? 1037 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.280 No? You said the wrong thing. Yeah, I saw that 1038 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.039 games Games of s No, I know what was it called? Again? 1039 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.280 Red rains of Kerala, Kerala, if you want to be 1040 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.400 white about it, Kerala, Kerala. I have not heard of 1041 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.360 this all right? So this next story is weather based 1042 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.440 and kind of a freak of nature. On occasion, blood coat, 1043 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:40.159 blood colored rain would fall onto the people living in 1044 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.800 the state of Kerala, which is on the Malabar coast 1045 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:47.719 of India. The documented times that red rain, blood red 1046 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.400 rain befell Kerala goes back as early as eighteen ninety 1047 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.760 six July of nineteen fifty seven September of two thousand 1048 00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:00.000 and one, which is funny and June of twenty twelve. 1049 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.760 Other areas of India has had a same phenomenon in 1050 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.159 December of twenty twelve, but Kerala is the main focus here. 1051 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.920 When it rained in nineteen fifty seven, it led to 1052 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:16.039 several superstitions and cries that people of all shapes and sizes, 1053 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.239 including cults, had a few movies as well. They made 1054 00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.760 movies about this. I should note that red wasn't the 1055 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:29.039 only reported color. People saw yellow, green, and black brought 1056 00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.360 it just as much confusion than the biblical red. But 1057 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.639 red is the main color of rain. 1058 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.199 So imagine, Yeah, you walk outside your house, bro, yes 1059 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.159 you see red or fucking black? 1060 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.239 You walk into your car, nice white shirt and all 1061 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.280 of a sudden, Yeah, that's. 1062 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.719 Like a corporate nightmare. I would have right, like stain 1063 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:50.159 in my shirt before a presentation for that. Yeah, black rain, 1064 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.239 black white, colored fresh. 1065 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.159 I think this blood rain, like what the hell is 1066 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.440 being murdered above me? That a plane crash and all 1067 00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:59.880 the bodies. I don't know what that is. 1068 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:02.760 Yeah, I can see how people would think this is 1069 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:04.760 the end. Colts would kick into high gear. This is 1070 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.159 the end, man, Yes, that's some weird sh and the 1071 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.760 fact that it's localized to this part of India is 1072 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:10.360 pretty yeah. 1073 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.119 I mean it's a state, it's not like a city. 1074 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.880 But still okay, you know. But so now, when the 1075 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.280 rain came in two thousand and one, the Indian government 1076 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.480 came and brought scientists to study the fucker and you know, 1077 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:28.000 try to explain the red menace like you were drinking 1078 00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:34.559 something when something you fucking get What did I do? 1079 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:35.480 I don't know? 1080 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:43.280 Oh god, no, you're fine. So they buy and scientists 1081 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.440 explain stuff, right because they're like enough of this, we 1082 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.880 you know, figure it out. And you know, also it's unpredictable. 1083 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:51.559 We don't know when it's gonna coming back, right, So anyway, 1084 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:56.440 quote according to locals, a loud thunderclap and flash of light, 1085 00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:01.159 followed by groves of trees shedding, shriveled ray, burnt leaves, 1086 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:06.440 burnt in quotes preceded the first colored rains. Reports had 1087 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.679 been given of shriveled leaves and the disappearance in sudden 1088 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.800 formation of wells around the same time in the area. 1089 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.920 Red particles in suspension and the rain water caused the 1090 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.920 coloration of the rain, and the red rain appeared at 1091 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:23.000 times as strongly colored as blood is written weird because 1092 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.920 it's translated. It typically fell over a small area, no 1093 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:30.639 more than a few square kilometers in size, sometimes so 1094 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.159 localized that normal rain could be falling just a few 1095 00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:38.480 meters away from the red rain. Huh. Red rainfalls typically 1096 00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:43.239 lasted less than twenty minutes. That's a long time. Yeah, 1097 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.400 that's pretty a long time. Yeah, you would think it'd 1098 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.760 be a few minutes, but no twenty minutes. But it's 1099 00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.360 not long either, but it's like not short. Yeah, I agree. Wow. 1100 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.840 So apparently each each millimeter of rain yielded around nine 1101 00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:01.559 million red particles, as well as other but not as prominent. 1102 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.840 The Center for Earth Science Studies in Kerala studied the 1103 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.880 pH levels and found it at a seven, which is neutral, 1104 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:15.719 but large amounts of copper, chromium, titanium, manganese, and nickel 1105 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.119 were present as well. This led to the first real 1106 00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:23.679 theory about the red rain that exploding meteors either causing 1107 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:27.360 or as a result, blend in with the rainfall like 1108 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.960 as it crashes to atmosphere, creating the devilish effect. As 1109 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.559 cool as that sounds, this theory was soon dismissed when 1110 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:41.119 additional rainfall did not corroborate meteoric activity in the atmosphere, 1111 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.719 so not quite there yet. Rainfall of this nature is weird, 1112 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.360 but weird and rare but not that surprising. Actually, a 1113 00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:54.920 milky white rainfall hit Idaho in twenty fifteen, chunks of 1114 00:59:55.039 --> 01:00:00.400 meat rained on Kentucky in eighteen seventy six, meat meat, 1115 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.519 and a school of fish rain on the UK in 1116 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.920 two thousand in the year two thousand, or just some 1117 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.880 of the examples. So this does happen. It's weird, but 1118 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.159 it happens. This kind of thinking led to the next theory. 1119 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:18.119 Scientists thought that maybe the dusts from Arabian deserts was 1120 01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:21.239 the culprit, as it happened once in nineteen oh three 1121 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.840 in England from the Sahara Desert. Like that's all I mean, 1122 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.320 that's the winds are crazy. It can blow something from 1123 01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.519 that far away onto England, you know. Thus was discovered 1124 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:34.679 in the red rainfall, but not nearly enough to justify 1125 01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.199 the theory. And it couldn't account as to why the 1126 01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:41.320 phenomena stayed local when it should have spread further, so 1127 01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:42.880 it didn't account for it. But that's one of their 1128 01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.719 theories I worked on. There are other theories that I 1129 01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.360 won't get into because there's some of them really stupid here. 1130 01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.480 But I'll give you what I think is the strongest 1131 01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.360 and happens to match India's official report. I was trying 1132 01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.880 to avoid using scientific terminologies, but here it goes quote. Then, 1133 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.400 in November of two thousand and one, commissioned by the 1134 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:08.079 Government of India's Department of Science and Technology, the CEESS 1135 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:15.760 and TVGRI released a report which concluded that algel alkal 1136 01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:22.159 algel spores colored Kerala's rains successfully grown in medium into lichen. 1137 01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:22.920 How do you spell it? 1138 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.679 Lychin lichen? Lichen? Lichen? Is it lichen? I think so? Okay? Lichen? 1139 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:32.000 The successfully grown in medium into lichen associated algae of 1140 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.519 the genus Trentifolia Trentipolia my bad. Although red or orange, 1141 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:43.360 Trentipolia constitutes a chlorofied green algae which can grow abundantly 1142 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:47.800 on tree bark or damp soil and rocks, also constituting 1143 01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:53.440 the photosynthetic symbiont on many lichens, including some of those 1144 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:57.280 abundant on trees in the Channanga cherry area. That's an 1145 01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.880 Indian area. I'm sorry. The report suggested that heavy rains 1146 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.119 in Kerala in the weeks preceding the red rains could 1147 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.239 have caused the widespread growth of lichans or lichens, which 1148 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.840 had given rise to a large quantity of spores in 1149 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.239 the atmosphere. It found no definite mechanism for the apparent 1150 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:20.320 extraordinary dispersal of the suspect spores, nor for the uptake 1151 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:24.360 of the suspect spores into clouds unquote, so unverifiable. But 1152 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.880 that's what they think is happening, is that their spores, 1153 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.039 so like weeks before red rain will gather all the 1154 01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:35.480 previous weather account that makes up all this green and 1155 01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:41.559 strange algae formans, you know, lichens come on trees and rocks. 1156 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.519 Like it says like after enough of it builds up, 1157 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:46.960 the next rain would like cause all the sportes to 1158 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:51.159 flutter everywhere, causing the red coloration. Like a lot of 1159 01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:55.079 combination of things like that would in the sky far high, 1160 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.079 I guess, so to fall down as rain. I don't 1161 01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.480 know how. Yeah, that's why it's hard to from it. 1162 01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:05.599 But that's like, yeah, it's hard to yes, and then 1163 01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.840 black like or just a different colors. Yeah, so apparently 1164 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.360 yellow came right after as the rank as it followed 1165 01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.119 like the color wheel a little bit like it would 1166 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:16.639 be red and the next color would be predictably yellow, 1167 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.400 you know, and then and then usually green or black 1168 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.239 or something after that. But like so like there is 1169 01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.400 a weird journey of it. But yes, that's roughly the 1170 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:28.440 order weird. 1171 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:33.199 Was there any did it mention anything about animals, you know, 1172 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:34.760 drinking that rain and getting sick? 1173 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.199 No, that was never mentioned. I also didn't find anyone 1174 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.079 saying like, oh, this never happened either, like they tested animals. No, 1175 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.199 but I figure it would have been in the results 1176 01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:51.119 if that happened, I guess. So now it reminds me 1177 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.440 of the Last of Us, which is funny because for 1178 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:57.800 you know, like oh right, you know, and and it 1179 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.559 started in India too, I think, or in Indonesia end 1180 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.320 the show, like the disease started there. So that's doubly 1181 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.280 fucked up one that's paragraph her. So the theory is 1182 01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:10.960 not a home run, but it does neatly explain why 1183 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.880 the red rain is localized to the Kerala region, since 1184 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.719 the rains cannot be definitively explained and they haven't stopped 1185 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.199 comes back every ten years or so, not predictably, just 1186 01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.639 thirby once in a while people into the supernatural and 1187 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.519 euphologists have enjoyed themselves with theories. Sure, the biggest theory 1188 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:33.480 involvement involving extraterrestrial activity was that the red particles were 1189 01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:37.880 biological cells microbes that were from another world assisted by 1190 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:42.000 meteorological activity. That's basically the extent of that theory. But 1191 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.320 I honestly don't believe it. When red rainfall hit India 1192 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.280 on two different occasions in twenty twelve, coupled with the 1193 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.679 Mayan apocalypse, many people attributed the phenomenon with the end 1194 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:54.960 of the world. But obviously that didn't happen. But yeah, 1195 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.320 people were imagine you believe that and you're there in 1196 01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:02.000 twenty twelve. That's crazy, right, That is because people really 1197 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.800 did believe it. People are crazy. People did go for it. 1198 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:06.119 Well, they thought the world was going to end a 1199 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:06.639 few days ago. 1200 01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:08.320 Yes, that's true too, and that's why I heard about that. 1201 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:13.639 That's so bizarre, how bizarre, how bizarre. 1202 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:19.199 Indeed, in chromium, I mean chromium, but certain types of 1203 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.159 chromium are highly poisonous. 1204 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:24.280 Yes, so that's I think, such as what matters or 1205 01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:26.639 something like that. Yeah, because some is healthy for you 1206 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.079 different I saw that Aaron Brockovic movie. That's how I'm 1207 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:29.719 basing this off. 1208 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:31.360 Oh, is that what it was? 1209 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:34.840 Yeah, Hinkley poison their water with tire hex of alian 1210 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.280 chromium in their wells and that's how people get cancer 1211 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.159 and stuff. But in the movie, it's just a movie, 1212 01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:42.639 so I don't really know. There's like different levels of chromium. 1213 01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:45.079 And the doctor explaining it too, Aaron Brockovic's character in 1214 01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.920 the movie said that some levels is perfect and normal, 1215 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:49.599 healthy in that and good for you, and some are 1216 01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:52.000 originally bad, right, So it really depends on what kind 1217 01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:57.360 it is. Yeah, and it was used to like for machinery, 1218 01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.159 the poison chromea like the bad coromium. Yeah, it is 1219 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.840 used to like lubricate machinery. As it's running. 1220 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.519 Reminds me a little bit of War of the World's 1221 01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:12.519 remember the red Yes, that's good, that horrible rain that 1222 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.119 would fall and then afterwards the red Yes. 1223 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:20.760 Technically, I mean, don't be surprised that they got that 1224 01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.199 idea from real world settings like the red rainfalls of Kerala. Yeah, 1225 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:28.159 possibly that could be a thing. Red rains, I remember, 1226 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:30.639 I remember, so, I remember stumbling. This is not my 1227 01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:32.320 first time of hearing of this kind of thing. Happening, 1228 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.800 and not the red rainfall, I mean like weird shed raining. 1229 01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:35.239 Yeah. 1230 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:39.280 So on two occasions in cinema or media, I've seen this. 1231 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:44.360 One is Magnolia remember the frogs? Oh yeah, Now that's 1232 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.000 actually based on a real historical thing. Oh sure, yeah. 1233 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.920 I looked up once, but it wasn't the ex dream. 1234 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.199 It happened in Europe somewhere I don't remember. It was 1235 01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:53.079 a long time ago, like hundreds of years ago, but 1236 01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:55.119 it rained frogs. I think that's where he got the idea. 1237 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:59.079 The other one wasn't Fargo the show season one? Have 1238 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:01.639 you ever seen that? Uh? And one of the one 1239 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.119 of the big act parts, like someone's in a car 1240 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.360 is a blind snowstorm and a whole school of fish 1241 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:10.320 rains down on them. It's not like causing a accident, 1242 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:14.320 changing the whole story of the show. And we all 1243 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.039 thought I was super thought. I was like, what the 1244 01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:20.119 hell kind of fucking was mocking out bullshit? Right? And 1245 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:21.880 then I looked up, but that really happened. I mentioned 1246 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.480 that as that happened in Britain. That totally happens. That 1247 01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.400 totally can't happen, and it happens from like a different seed, 1248 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.199 not even close by. It can happen from anywhere and 1249 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:33.519 it's got just hit hit the right amount of wind 1250 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:35.320 and rain and that's it. 1251 01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:39.000 I've been on the water before and I've seen water spouts. Yeah, 1252 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:42.239 so what's to say those water spouts don't siphon off 1253 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.519 whatever creatures are floating near the surface. 1254 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.679 Stead of washing the spider out, it washes it in. 1255 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.199 For the last one, yeah, read all right, different kind 1256 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.519 This is a different kind of story. This one's called 1257 01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:58.119 the Solder Family. Solder family. My last story is a 1258 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.360 homegrown story. And I'm going to begin by quoting an 1259 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.960 article published on Christmas Day in twenty twelve. Quote for 1260 01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:10.840 nearly four decades, anyone driving down Route sixteen near Fayetteville, 1261 01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.079 West Virginia, could see a billboard bearing the grainy images 1262 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:19.479 of five children, all dark haired and solemn eyed. The 1263 01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:24.239 Solder siblings names and ages fourteen year old Maurice, twelve 1264 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.600 year old Martha, nine year old Lewis, eight year old Jenny, 1265 01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:32.760 and five year old Betty were stenciled beneath the photos, 1266 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:37.079 along with speculation about what happened to them, what was 1267 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:41.920 their fate kidnapped, murdered, or are they still alive? Unquote. 1268 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.520 Have you ever heard of a Solder family? I have not, 1269 01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:47.359 you have not. This is surprising. I really thought this 1270 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.720 is the one that you might know. No, no, this 1271 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:56.079 one I don't. Okay, And you said Fayetteville, West Virginia, Yes, no, 1272 01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:02.279 East Virginia, Okay, No, don't know. Have you been there? No? Okay. 1273 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:07.239 The Solder family story is one of mystery, confusion, frustration, 1274 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.600 and tragedy. One of the best things about this story, 1275 01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.600 if such a thing could be allowed, is that there 1276 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:17.159 are ample sources to mind information. This story was well 1277 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:21.079 told over the years and in several angles. The story 1278 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:24.880 hinges on one event that befell the Solder family on 1279 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.399 Christmas Day nineteen forty five. But first, let's set the table. 1280 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.560 As mentioned earlier, this story took place in Fayetteville, West Virginia, 1281 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:37.119 which isn't quite smack dab in the middle of the state, 1282 01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:39.239 but it's in the thick section, you know, the thick 1283 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.000 you know, like suction, not far from Charleston, about an 1284 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.000 hour or so away. Okay. The house wasn't alone out there, 1285 01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:50.119 but it didn't have immediate neighbors like most homes do today, 1286 01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:54.439 which means less witnesses, but also fewer casualties. I'll get 1287 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.560 to what I mean later. The Solder family was big. 1288 01:09:58.039 --> 01:09:59.640 You know the expression, they don't make them like they 1289 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.119 used to. Well, they certainly don't make families like they 1290 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.520 used to. The mother and father were named Jenny's Cipriani 1291 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.680 and George Solder, and they had ten children. God, yes, 1292 01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.920 imagine that. Imagine that. Just set back Jay for a minute. This, 1293 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:19.159 have a minute of silence, and you imagine multiplying your 1294 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:20.079 kids times five. 1295 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:22.560 I want to take a hostage with two. Yeah, I 1296 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:23.640 can't imagine ten. 1297 01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.760 Yeah. The mother and father were named all right, said that. 1298 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:32.560 I remember both of them were Italian and George yeah, yes, 1299 01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.399 of course Soder is not as actual last time. He 1300 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.199 changed it when he came over. I did have that 1301 01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:39.760 information earlier, but I didn't put it in the story 1302 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.840 or no way. Both were Italian, and George immigrated with 1303 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.239 his brother to the United States when he was thirteen 1304 01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.800 in nineteen oh eight. Oh wow. Jenny and George got 1305 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:53.600 married in nineteen twenty two and began making their small army. 1306 01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:59.239 I'm going to note here that at the time, maybe 1307 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:04.920 still Fayetteville. Fayettville had a large Italian population and was 1308 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:08.119 the primary reason the couple moved there. You know, interesting 1309 01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:10.880 community that you find among your own people, that kind 1310 01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:14.079 of thing. From nineteen twenty three till nineteen forty two, 1311 01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.479 the Satters had their ten children, and here's the order 1312 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:27.560 from oldest to youngest, John, Joe, Marion, George Junior, Maurice, Martha, Louis, Jenny, Betty, 1313 01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:34.159 and Sylvia. Fucking hell, are you serious, dude. At the 1314 01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:37.920 time of the tragic event, the oldest John was twenty 1315 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:41.159 three and the youngest Sylvia was three at the time 1316 01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:41.560 of the end. 1317 01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:45.920 It's a generation difference, yes. 1318 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:50.840 Tis totally. Now I'm talking about the children because the 1319 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.159 mystery involves them. At the time of the incident, Joe 1320 01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:56.960 wasn't at home and had gone to serve in the 1321 01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.159 military a few years earlier. World War Two ended just 1322 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.319 a few months prior to this tragedy. By the way, 1323 01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:06.439 it ended in September right on there, and this is 1324 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:10.399 Christmas Day we're talking nineteen forty five, so yeah, he 1325 01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.199 was off to Wark. Anyway, the event came in the 1326 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:16.600 form of a house fire, a fire that consumed the 1327 01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:20.680 entire home. Here's the rough timeline of what occurred on 1328 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:23.600 the evening of the twenty fourth of December, into the 1329 01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:28.640 earliest hours of the twenty fifth Christmas Day, Marian came home. 1330 01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:32.840 The oldest daughter, Marian came home and working from working 1331 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.720 at a local store, and brought a few toys for 1332 01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:40.239 her younger siblings. At around ten thirty pm, Jenny the 1333 01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:44.600 mother took her youngest Sylvia upstairs with her to bed. 1334 01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.840 By this time, George Senior and his two older boys, 1335 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.039 John and George Junior had gone to bed, already tired 1336 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.720 from work. I'll interject here to say that the Satters 1337 01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.960 didn't quite have a farm, but they tended to a 1338 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.239 little bit of livestock and the acre surrounding the house. 1339 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.680 Just before heading off to bed, Jenny reminded two of 1340 01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.840 her other boys, Maurice and Louis, to tend to the 1341 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:13.600 cows and chickens before they went to sleep. The younger 1342 01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.000 children were allowed to stay up past their bedtime with 1343 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:21.479 their new toys Maurice, Louis, Martha, Betty and Jenny before 1344 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:25.319 heading up to the attic where they usually slept. Marian 1345 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:29.800 fell asleep on the couch, presumably while watching over her siblings. 1346 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:37.319 Earlier quote. About midnight, a phone call forced Jenny awake. 1347 01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:41.159 When she answered, a woman asked for an unknown name. 1348 01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.560 Jenny would later recall that the woman had a weird 1349 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.840 laugh and others were also laughing and clinking their glasses 1350 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:51.640 in the background. Jenny told the woman that she had 1351 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.840 the wrong number and didn't think much about it. At 1352 01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.119 the time. The house was all quiet. Marian was asleep 1353 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.800 on the couch, and Jenny noticed that the doors were 1354 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.439 unlocked and the curtains were still open. Typically, the children 1355 01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:08.239 take care to secure the house before they turned in 1356 01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:10.880 for bed, but for some reason not on this night. 1357 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.039 Jenny locked up and closed the shades, assuming that the 1358 01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.600 rest of the children had gone to sleep in the attic. 1359 01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:22.479 She then retreated to bed. About half hour passed, Jenny 1360 01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:26.720 awoke when, as she later described, something hit the roof 1361 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.119 like a rubber ball. It rolled and hit the ground 1362 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:34.000 with a thump. However, she didn't pay much attention to 1363 01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:37.680 it and went back to sleep. Another half hour passes, 1364 01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.359 and this time she awoke to the smell of smoke. 1365 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.399 George Jenny, which is the baby Marian, John, and George 1366 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:49.920 Junior got out. Unfortunately, the staircase to the attic had 1367 01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:53.840 begun to fill up with fire. Oddly, when the satters 1368 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.720 yelled up to the attic, they heard no response from 1369 01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:00.399 the younger children. As Jenny explained, and this is her 1370 01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.239 quoting now, I ran to the bottom of the stairs 1371 01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:06.800 where the children were supposed to be sleeping. I yelled 1372 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.279 and yelled, and two boys, John and George Junior, came 1373 01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:16.199 stumbling down. Their hair was singed by the flames unquote 1374 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.640 on both ends. So when Jenny got up earlier and 1375 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:22.680 noticed the curtains open and front door unlocked, the lights 1376 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:25.720 were on as well, which later helped half of the 1377 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.239 other family to escape they needed the lights were so dark. 1378 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.359 Once the Stawters saw that getting through the fire upstairs 1379 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:35.439 was going to be impossible from the inside, they tried 1380 01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:40.159 telephoning the fire department, but the phone wasn't working. George 1381 01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:44.199 tried several things to rescue his children before the foundation fell. 1382 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.640 He first went to get his ladder, which was always 1383 01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:50.920 propped up against the house, but found it strangely missing. 1384 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:54.399 He and his eldest had the idea of using one 1385 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.560 of their two trucks to park it to the house 1386 01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.359 and climb up to the house, but fire found that 1387 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.159 both vehicles would not start, and where they worked the 1388 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:07.119 day before. George attempted to use the water he had 1389 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.279 from a barrel he had outside, but it was frozen solid. 1390 01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:14.359 This is winter, after all. It seemed that he wasn't 1391 01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:18.840 meant to save his children from the horrible flames. Marion 1392 01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.720 ran to a neighbour's home to call the fire department, 1393 01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:26.600 but got no response. Another neighbor further away saw the 1394 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.119 blaze and called from a local tavern, and after getting 1395 01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:33.760 no response as well, drove into town and tracked down 1396 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:37.279 Fire Chief F. J. Morris, who then had to call 1397 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:42.960 everyone else individually to assist in the emergency. Basically, Fayetteville 1398 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.079 and the nineteen forties in general, were simply not prepared 1399 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:51.479 for any kind of rapid response. Betty, Jenny, Lewis, Martha, 1400 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.960 and Maurice that I make it, did not make it 1401 01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:58.319 out of the house as the fire engulfed. The fire 1402 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:02.079 department reached the sader for resident around eight am, and 1403 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.640 by then the house was smoldering and in ashes. It 1404 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:08.520 took roughly forty five minutes for the fire to consume 1405 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.640 the house from the starting point. The remaining family members 1406 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:15.279 could do nothing but stand and watch the flames and 1407 01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.279 hope to see one of their children try climbing out 1408 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:21.600 of a window, but none never did. After a cursory 1409 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.399 investigation of the ashes, both firefighters and George Sowter himself 1410 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.279 could not find the remains of the supposed dead children. 1411 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:34.239 Here is the mystery of the tale. Many people, including 1412 01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.760 and especially the Solters, believe that their children are missing, 1413 01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:42.279 that their missing children are just that missing, not dead. 1414 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:47.119 The details of the suddenly non functioning trucks, odd phone calls, 1415 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:51.880 and missing ladder started to look suspicious. I'll be honest, 1416 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:56.359 the mystery stays mysterious due to the point where most 1417 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.039 people now believe that they must have died in the fire. 1418 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:03.720 It's been that long, but a few outlets over the 1419 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.039 years have kept the story alive, as well as the Solders, 1420 01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:09.479 and I'll get into those details right now. So the 1421 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:13.159 official cause of the fire was faulty wiring, despite the 1422 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.039 fact that George had the whole house rewired a few 1423 01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:20.800 weeks earlier when installing a new stove. The Solders were 1424 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:24.640 a respected family in the community. In George's trucking business 1425 01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:29.600 led to a lot of unfamiliar faces. In late fall 1426 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:32.720 of nineteen forty five, they were visited by a traveling 1427 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:36.479 life insurance salesman and were warned that the house will 1428 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:40.560 go up and smoke. The warning felt more of a threat, 1429 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:46.359 especially since George was famously anti Mussolini in a time 1430 01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:51.319 when communities were divided by the war. Yeah, he was 1431 01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:57.880 famously like you would anti dictators right. A man solictening 1432 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.680 for employment also warned Joy about the house when noticing 1433 01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:06.680 the wiring. There were strange and unconfirmed reports of people 1434 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:10.159 seeing a man in his car watching over the house 1435 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:15.119 weeks before the fire. Here's another one. A maybe different 1436 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:19.199 man was seen skulking around the house a day before 1437 01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:24.399 the fire. So this is from the Sunday Gazette mail 1438 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:28.279 in nineteen sixty eight. Quote. During the fire, a man 1439 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.600 was seen stealing a block and chain from the sawter's garage. 1440 01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:36.479 When later charged with crime, he also with the crime. 1441 01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:42.399 He also admitted to cutting the sawder's electric line. He 1442 01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:46.159 also never went to trial. Missus Sower said he probably 1443 01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:50.640 snipped a telephone line by mistake, and said we never 1444 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:54.560 could have gone out of there alive if the lights 1445 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.039 had been cut unquote, so the lights stayed to live. 1446 01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:58.680 This guy tried to cut the line thinking it was 1447 01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:00.720 a power line. He cut the telep phone line instead. 1448 01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.039 And this guy's again you never want to try. You 1449 01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:05.800 just admitted to the theft. But that's all he was 1450 01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.680 charged for. Was theft, not murder, nothing like that. He 1451 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:10.800 was trying to kill the whole family, correct, No, no one, 1452 01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.439 I mean people if I thought that at first, but 1453 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.760 it was just no. He was just theft, that's all 1454 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:18.439 he was charged for. I don't even know the guy's name. 1455 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:23.279 Couldn't even get that anyway. Unquote Uh, that unnamed man 1456 01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:25.840 was only convicted of theft, as I just said. As 1457 01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:29.479 fire investigators later recanted the statement, saying that the cause 1458 01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:32.760 of the fire was faulty wiring, so they took that away, 1459 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.079 the fact that the lights were stile on when the 1460 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:38.279 fire rage says that it's not the wiring. There is 1461 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:43.000 nothing concrete about what started the fire, however, the likeliest 1462 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.560 cause is that it was retribution against the solders for 1463 01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:50.439 the politically hot views against the Italian dictator, and that 1464 01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:53.079 the noise on the roof Jenny Hurd was an in 1465 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:58.239 sandiary device. Oh but no way to prove that, like 1466 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.960 a nake palm bomb. Yeah yeah, and the house I 1467 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:03.640 didn't mentioned as in the story, but the house was 1468 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:10.159 made basically out entirely out of wood ninety percent. Way yeah, 1469 01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:14.039 but no bodies, right, So the Sawdas were grief stricken, 1470 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.680 but continue their search for the missing children. Jenny and 1471 01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:21.840 George were convinced wholeheartedly that their children were still alive. 1472 01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:26.079 A few months before the incident, a fire consumed the 1473 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.479 home and the seven people living in it like a 1474 01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:34.920 different family. Their bones were discovered, no problems. Yeah that's yeah, yeah, 1475 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:38.960 so quote. Jenny couldn't understand how five children could perish 1476 01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:42.199 in a fire and leave no bones, no flesh, nothing. 1477 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:46.840 She conducted a private experiment burning animal bones, chicken bones, 1478 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:50.319 beef joints, pork chopped bones to see if the fire 1479 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.399 consumed them. Each time she was left with a heap 1480 01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:58.000 of charred bones. She knew that remains of various household 1481 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.359 appliances had been fired in the burnt out basement, still identifiable, 1482 01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:07.840 and employee at a crematorium informed her that bones remain 1483 01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:12.359 after bodies. Bones as I remained after bodies are burned 1484 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:16.039 for two hours at two thousand degrees. The family's house 1485 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:21.560 was reportedly destroyed in just forty five minutes. So yeah, 1486 01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.520 this and other reasons kept the family going, kept the 1487 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.560 hopes up. Witness reporting came in in waves over the years. 1488 01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:33.000 One woman reported seeing the children in her diner the 1489 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.359 morning after in Charleston, which is about an hour away. 1490 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:40.199 A week later, the police received this statement from a 1491 01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:44.960 Charleston hotel patron. The children were accompanied by two women 1492 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.079 and two men, all of Italian extraction. I do not 1493 01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:53.800 remember the exact date date, however, the entire party did 1494 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.680 register at the hotel and stayed in a large room 1495 01:22:56.800 --> 01:23:01.479 with several beds. They registered about midnight. I tried to 1496 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.079 talk to the children in a friendly manner, but the 1497 01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:07.199 men appeared hostile and refused to allow me to talk 1498 01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:09.880 to these children. One of the men looked at me 1499 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:13.199 at in a hostile manner. He turned around and began 1500 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:18.159 talking rapidly in Italian. Immediately, the whole party stopped talking 1501 01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.840 to me. I sensed that I was being frozen out, 1502 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:24.640 and so I said nothing more. They left early in 1503 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:28.720 the next morning. That was her statement that billboard I 1504 01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:31.199 mentioned at the top of the story kept the tragedy 1505 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.479 of live for decades and led to much false hope. 1506 01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:39.079 A conversation overheard in a Texan bar a possible relative 1507 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:44.640 in Florida, a convent in Saint Louis, and others. In 1508 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.399 nineteen sixty eight, the Sauders received a photo postmark from 1509 01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:52.279 Kentucky of a man that looked remarkably like Lewis, who 1510 01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.680 was nine years old when he disappeared. Sending a private 1511 01:23:55.720 --> 01:24:00.000 investigator yielded no result whatsoever. The investigator didn't come back. 1512 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:07.319 Spribalism and nefarious. I could keep I could keep detailing 1513 01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:09.840 thread after a thread of leeds, but the ends will 1514 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:14.199 remain untied. The Solters vowed to continue the search until 1515 01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:17.680 their deaths, which they did. George died in sixty nine 1516 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.560 and Jenny in eighty nine. And eighty nine was the 1517 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:24.000 final year. Was the year that the billboard was finally 1518 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:27.000 taken down. Wow, So when all the way up to 1519 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:30.960 late nineties eighty nine, well, yes, and Sylvia, who turned 1520 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:33.439 out to be the last remaining you know, the youngest, 1521 01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:37.760 became the last remaining Solder family member. She stayed around 1522 01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:38.880 that area too, in that house. 1523 01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:39.960 I think she's still around. 1524 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:42.960 All She did a memorial and you know, and she 1525 01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:49.640 did a memorial thing, something memorialized any right down she's 1526 01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:52.760 remembering it. She did a memorial in two thousand and 1527 01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.560 ten or something. Oh well, yeah, something like that in 1528 01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.520 her seventies, wow about her missing sibling and stuff like that. 1529 01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:04.520 But like that was it. Italians could hold a grudge. 1530 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:08.840 There's some grudging people. And this is people people easily forget. 1531 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.000 And you know, we're coming back on those times right now, 1532 01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.399 but people easily forget about World War Two is that 1533 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:16.119 it wasn't so black and white. We a lot of 1534 01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:18.680 people had different opinions of what we were doing over there. 1535 01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:21.000 Of course, people loved those dictators as much as they 1536 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.960 hated them. They if they weren't loved, they wouldn't be dictators, 1537 01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.399 right yeah, or they didn't have defense, you know whatever. 1538 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.159 So like I can see an Italian community be torn 1539 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.880 apart by this Mussolini guy. But for sure, for example, I. 1540 01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:36.840 Just I think, okay, crematorium versus like a house fire, 1541 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.199 right like, right when you cremate a body, that's. 1542 01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:41.000 Gotta be burning. 1543 01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:43.199 And I don't know, I don't know what the temperas are, 1544 01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:47.680 but yeah, it's gotta be burning hotter than a house fire. 1545 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.680 Yeah. But you know, since it's been so long that 1546 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:54.359 people just assumed there was the fire and they just 1547 01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:55.119 missed it. 1548 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:56.520 Just zero evidence. 1549 01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:59.279 There is a lot more people. There's a lot of 1550 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.359 details to this case. I mean, we could really make 1551 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:03.439 a whole thing out of it, but they really need 1552 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.159 nowhere And I just I gave you the best topic there. 1553 01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:08.800 But so I felt like it's about one incident, it's 1554 01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:11.199 not about multiple murderers or you know, it's not. I 1555 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:12.720 feel like it will be boring for the staytail the 1556 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:15.560 whole thing. But they had a fire marsh go through 1557 01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:17.640 it and they're like they were trying to explain it away, 1558 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.600 but that they felt more like they just wanted to 1559 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:24.279 stop working it more than it is, Like yeah, but 1560 01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:29.600 then why would they want to take five of the kids. 1561 01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:28.800 For what purpose? 1562 01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:32.079 Well, this is all just off the side of my head, 1563 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:35.319 but because a lot of people go crazy, SHD so 1564 01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:38.359 him and he put this in there because it's just 1565 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:39.960 so far fetched. But I'll put it in there and 1566 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:43.520 I'll take you now. Is that George the father and 1567 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:45.760 his second oldest who went to war, the only one 1568 01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.880 that wasn't at home that night they had a row 1569 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:55.760 about Mussolini, really enough of a row where like like 1570 01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:58.840 they were they were not they were you know, I 1571 01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:01.720 wouldn't trying to say like they were separate. They were 1572 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.840 just not to get not family anymore like that, like 1573 01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:06.439 that big of a row about it. That's what I 1574 01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:08.680 felt like. And the kid went off to finding World 1575 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.359 War two. I don't know the situation with the kid, 1576 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:13.520 as far as I know he lived. He people were 1577 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:15.520 saying that he came back because the war had ended 1578 01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:18.079 a few months prior. He made himself in time to 1579 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:20.520 come back and took as many of his siblings as 1580 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.560 he could, like away from his father who had the 1581 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:25.800 wrong politically. A lot of people were saying that, But 1582 01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:26.840 it's so far fetched. 1583 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.960 You know, I've never believed that strongly in anything. 1584 01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.840 Dude, I know people really go for it. Yeah. I 1585 01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.239 have friends also that are really strongly believers and things. 1586 01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:38.159 I'm like, you have that kind of energy. 1587 01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:40.520 Well yeah, exactly, and especially today. 1588 01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:42.560 Well yeah, but like I don't know how they have 1589 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:46.520 such But that's a different story. And the other times 1590 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:49.560 that they were like all these people that were seen 1591 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:53.399 around the house could attribute to like a kidnapping, you know, 1592 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:58.840 a grandeur extent canap as many as possible, or and 1593 01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:01.520 or the kids were trying to get away. Maybe they 1594 01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:03.640 heard something outside and that's what the doors were open 1595 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:07.079 when Jenny woke up at night saw everything opened. Maybe 1596 01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:09.399 the kids were already gone, so when the fire started, 1597 01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:12.760 the attic was already empty. Oh you know, that's why 1598 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:14.359 that's part of the timeline. 1599 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:16.000 That's the that's. 1600 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:18.000 The best timeline, right, that's why the timeline works that way. 1601 01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:19.920 Well, depending what happened to the kids, then I guess. 1602 01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.159 But yeah, surviving. 1603 01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.640 And the initial and there was a few little discrepancies, like, 1604 01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.960 for example, George Sotter said initially when the when the 1605 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.119 fire department first arrived at the scene, that he had 1606 01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:34.880 tried to go upstairs physically to the attic to get 1607 01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:39.760 his children, but it was like the fires, you know, 1608 01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.039 burned them too much and he just couldn't do up. 1609 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.039 And then later said that he just yelled up to 1610 01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:47.399 them because the fires were already raging, and didn't mention 1611 01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:50.159 that he went up. He was just confused in the moment. 1612 01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:54.720 Small decrept you know. It's little things like that interesting. 1613 01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:57.039 And so the mystery is still indoors. 1614 01:28:57.279 --> 01:29:01.279 Yeah, well yeah, and everyone's sad basically, so. 1615 01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:02.760 Just people like us keeping it alive. 1616 01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.840 Yeah right, right, So those are the four stories. I 1617 01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:10.239 was struggling between three longer ones or maybe adding a fifth. 1618 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.680 The Black Stain could have been extended to feature more 1619 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:18.079 eyewitnesses reporting and a lackluster but relevant news article of 1620 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:22.600 the black goo in other countries, though unconfirmed, unconfirmed. That's 1621 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.079 the problem. Unconfirmed. That's why I'm going to do it. 1622 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:30.079 Yeah right, I like that it wouldn't have I don't 1623 01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:31.760 think it would have popped as much if I if 1624 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:35.079 I added those in there. The Solders has so much information, 1625 01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:38.600 but since there's so miniscule and procedural, and the fact 1626 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:43.000 that they lead nowhere, it stayed my hand from writing more. Honestly, 1627 01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:45.760 I could see a Netflix miniseries or a David Fincher 1628 01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:49.960 movie about it in the future more than a bigger story. 1629 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:53.039 The Red Rains of Kerala has a lot of scientific information, 1630 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.239 but felt they would get boring, and The Wedge of 1631 01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.880 biod barely has anything at all. Really, the fifth story 1632 01:29:59.880 --> 01:30:02.880 that didn't make the cut became so interesting that I 1633 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.199 decided to make it a feature in the future, like 1634 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:05.960 a bigger deal. 1635 01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:07.079 Do you want to give us a hint? 1636 01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:12.920 Nope, fuck you. What I thought was a story about 1637 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:14.960 Oh yeah, here's the clue. I did write a clue 1638 01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:17.479 in here, what I thought was a story about serial 1639 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:22.880 killer sisters with old and unverifiable information turned out to 1640 01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.600 be much bigger than anticipated. So I'm gonna say that. 1641 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.119 For a later time serial killing sisters. 1642 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:31.399 I like it very good. 1643 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.079 I like the I like the you know, I kind. 1644 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.760 Of dig the short story format, right, I kind of 1645 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.359 like that. I think you can cut you away faster, cut 1646 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:43.039 to the main things faster, without feeling like they need 1647 01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.359 to explain too much, as long as there's a somewhat 1648 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:48.720 decent flow of what you want to show, like establish 1649 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:54.039 the mystery, how what where? You know? Yeah, maybe some 1650 01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:57.399 of these because I've had some of these in my 1651 01:30:57.600 --> 01:30:59.760 in my notes apped for a long time, but I 1652 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.359 know they went nowhere because it's it's too short. 1653 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.079 Right, and we're I mean, what do we do? We 1654 01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:09.520 do two hour episodes with twenty something paid scripts and 1655 01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:10.720 months of research. 1656 01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.279 Yeah, yeah, no, it's good man. I kind of dig it. 1657 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:15.800 I might I might try to put something together like 1658 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:16.399 that one day. 1659 01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:18.439 Yeah, oh we can team up in the same episode 1660 01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:20.880 two whatever that you do? Well, that's too much, but 1661 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:25.720 you know whatever, three and three two? I like it, well, 1662 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:27.680 very good, Thank you. 1663 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:32.880 That was fun. Good for Halloween. You know, I forgot 1664 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.520 to mention I'm gonna maybe I'll talk about this in November. 1665 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:42.920 But myself, my wife, and our cousins Korlando and Bonquequi, 1666 01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:47.840 Jenny and Corey, we're going to a lecture in October, 1667 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:54.479 a serial killer lecture by doctor Scott Bond, and he 1668 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:58.680 interviewed and writes about all these famous serial killers, for example, 1669 01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:04.439 Rex Hureman and serial Killer. So I should have some 1670 01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.920 good notes from that lecture, and maybe I'll talk about 1671 01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:08.760 that in the November's episode. 1672 01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:12.760 Please I want to know more about that for October. 1673 01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:18.039 Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited about that. So I don't know. 1674 01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:21.720 Should we jump on our broomsticks and fly on out 1675 01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:22.000 of here? 1676 01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:23.079 Yes, let's do that. 1677 01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:25.359 Happy Halloween listeners. 1678 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.600 Why didn't it be you know that costumes for all 1679 01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:50.359 fucking shapes? 1680 01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:51.199 Right? Yeah? 1681 01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:56.239 I know, like companies know how fat America is, and 1682 01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:58.279 we're not that fat. I mean, I know we're overweight, 1683 01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:00.640 but we're not that overweight, you know. 1684 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:02.800 I mean, we're I think Americans. 1685 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:04.239 What do you want to xl at most? 1686 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:06.479 No too, you too? 1687 01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.479 Oh yeah, I didn't know that. Oh yeah, I really 1688 01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:10.560 bad at noticing these things. 1689 01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:13.159 Good. That's maybe that means I'm not following a part 1690 01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:13.920 as much as I thought. 1691 01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:15.640 Like, I would never describe it that game. Hey, I 1692 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.439 hear you. I hear you talking about Jay. Can you 1693 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:19.560 describe him for us? I want to buy true XL fat. 1694 01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:22.680 At least I don't say that. 1695 01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:23.119 It's I carry it out. 1696 01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:25.399 I always say he's a short Italian here, Yeah, my 1697 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:26.720 short Italian with some gray. 1698 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:30.520 And over the last like maybe two months, I started 1699 01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:32.560 putting it back on. I'm really upset myself. I was 1700 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:33.600 doing so well. 1701 01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:36.119 Putting what back on. Wait, it's a constant battle, dude, 1702 01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:38.000 it is a constant battle. 1703 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:40.000 I was working out and then all of a sudden 1704 01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:42.560 I stopped. Like I don't know why I stopped. 1705 01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:45.520 Dude, that same problem I fucking have. I fucking have 1706 01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:47.720 too man Like I try to get in a rhythm, 1707 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:49.520 I just start getting into the rhythm. I don't know 1708 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:53.319 for what reason my body decides to forget. I know 1709 01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.039 what working out is, and like, oh it's been two days, 1710 01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:57.079 Like what I skip two days? 1711 01:33:57.119 --> 01:33:59.159 I don't know what I know. I'm the same way 1712 01:33:59.319 --> 01:33:59.800 do it. 1713 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:01.800 It's some sort of self defense thing that makes me 1714 01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:04.520 want to be lazy. It's so it's so dumb. Humans 1715 01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:08.800 are dumb. We're dumb. Yeah, I hate it. I hate it. 1716 01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:14.840 It's it's yeah, oh, I know, And don't worry. If 1717 01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:16.680 we finish early, I'll probably go get taco bell and 1718 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.000 watch TV before I fall asleep. 1719 01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:24.159 And then you would think the body would want to. 1720 01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:30.239 Naturally be healthy. Your body would your body. 1721 01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:32.960 Our bodies got used to not doing it. That that's 1722 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.920 the default position I was working out against the type. 1723 01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.079 Isn't that horrible? It's fucking horrible. 1724 01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:40.239 I know. I got to get back into it, especially 1725 01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:42.840 now because I already have a travel on the books. 1726 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:44.680 I have to be in Cleveland middle of the month. 1727 01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.359 I leave on Katie's birthday, which I feel horrible, so 1728 01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:48.720 it's more closer to the end of the month. But 1729 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.359 you know, like I'm worried, like nothing's gonna fit. I 1730 01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:53.119 have to go get new clothes. And I was just 1731 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:57.560 doing so well all my clothes fit. Now a lot 1732 01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.880 of my clothes don't fit again. It's just constant fucking 1733 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:04.000 back and forth. Many I think Tealia is leaving. I 1734 01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:05.840 think she's going by her friend. 1735 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:15.760 What's his name? Her is her Oscar Ashley Joe Jamie. 1736 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:17.640 Her name is Josie. 1737 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:21.000 You were close to Josie. Those are also androdging his names. Yes, 1738 01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:22.359 they could be a boy or a girl. 1739 01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:24.399 I like, we like Josie. 1740 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.479 She's I was trying to scare you. He failed. 1741 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.680 Life of Chuck do we talk of phenomenal? I like, yeah, 1742 01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:35.800 I wrote a movie. Yeah, I know, I wrote a movie, 1743 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.199 like one of the best dance scenes I think I've 1744 01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:38.680 ever seen. 1745 01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:41.680 Yes, I would say that my biggest my biggest grite 1746 01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:44.520 A couple of grapes. But one of them is that 1747 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:48.199 not enough of Chuck and that age, Like we get 1748 01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:51.000 so little of him as a child, no as an adult. 1749 01:35:51.359 --> 01:35:53.720 Oh yeah, well, I mean. 1750 01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:55.560 Really just got the dance sequences and just a few 1751 01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.680 flashes of him being terminal, and that's really et. 1752 01:35:58.880 --> 01:35:59.960 So no middle aged Chuck. 1753 01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.920 Yeah, like the actor Tom Middlson. 1754 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:06.720 Yeah, I mean you don't really see Chuck until it's 1755 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:07.960 already going downhill. 1756 01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.279 Yeah yeah right, and again very little. We don't see 1757 01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:14.000 the wife either that much, which I figured you would 1758 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:17.680 think it might be important part of his life. Yeah, true, 1759 01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:20.439 mm hmm. But yeah, but I really like I gave 1760 01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:21.960 it four stars. It was great. I loved it. I 1761 01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.680 was like, yes, so Life from and Shad Good. It's good. 1762 01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:26.600 I love the opening. I love the first chapter because 1763 01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.520 it's like a cool like almost like a sci fi mystery, 1764 01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:31.399 like what's what's happening? What's going on? That's great. I 1765 01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:33.760 didn't I didn't know the story, so it was pretty cool. 1766 01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:35.159 I saw it in theaters. It was great. It was 1767 01:36:35.199 --> 01:36:38.600 the only one in that theater. Really, it happens a lot. Wow, 1768 01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:39.760 that happens a lot. 1769 01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:43.399 Is that a Stephen King thing or no? 1770 01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.119 It's probably like awareness of that movie. It was maybe 1771 01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:49.439 like the advertisement budget of that thing was maybe like nothing, 1772 01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:52.840 you know, compared to like Weapons of the Long Walk 1773 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:55.800 they had trailers for in all streaming sites like one that, 1774 01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.840 like those movies trailers everywhere. Ye, awareness is that's why 1775 01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:02.640 I advertising Cosa likes one hundred million in something. 1776 01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:06.880 They're they're making a new another one of the short stories. 1777 01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:08.640 I think it's from the same book that Life of 1778 01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:11.479 Chuck was in, called Rats. That'll be cool. 1779 01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:13.239 Oh. I love the ghost song. 1780 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:14.880 Yes, Rats. 1781 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:18.600 That reminds me there's another King moll be coming out 1782 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.960 this year. The Running Man. Isn't that his? No? Wait 1783 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:22.359 is it his? 1784 01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:24.079 I think it is? 1785 01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:25.760 It is right? The Running Man is this year. I 1786 01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:28.640 think it is. And that's made by the guy Edgar Wright. 1787 01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:33.439 So, hey, Siri, fucking suck. 1788 01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.720 I hate I never use it. 1789 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:42.199 Alexis so much better. Hey, Siri, did Stephen King write 1790 01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:47.439 The Running Man? The Running Man was written by Stephen E. 1791 01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:51.720 Desuza. Stephen Desuza, Okay, so I'm not Stephen King. 1792 01:37:51.920 --> 01:38:00.000 Who is? Stephen Desusa is an American screenwriter, producer. 1793 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:04.039 And direc So it's an original screenplayer. I guess original. 1794 01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:08.560 Siri, who wrote The Running Who wrote the book The 1795 01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:16.960 Running Man? Hello? 1796 01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:19.079 I could have found this out by now right. 1797 01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:24.239 I thought, for a moment I thought Stephen King was 1798 01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:28.000 involved in Yeah, by American writer Stephen King. Yeah, okay, 1799 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.720 under Richard Bachman in nineteen eighty two. 1800 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.760 Yeah, I'm not saying Stephen King wrote the original screenplay, 1801 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:35.680 but he wrote the story. 1802 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:37.960 That the story, okay, Yeah, and. 1803 01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:39.520 That's coming out this year as well. And that's also 1804 01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:43.640 another big temple blockbuster hit or release. No shit, is 1805 01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:44.880 you gonna watch that? 1806 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:46.000 I don't know. 1807 01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:51.600 I never read the book so well with Yeah, have 1808 01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:53.079 you seen The r All the movie? 1809 01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:56.439 Yeah? No, No, I. 1810 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:58.359 Didn't really, Yeah, I thought you would have. 1811 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:01.239 I don't think I did. I don't think I've ever 1812 01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.640 seen Superman. You're right, Yeah, that's all that. 1813 01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:06.840 No, it's good, is it good? 1814 01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:09.920 I'm kind of over the whole superhero thing. No, I 1815 01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:11.640 get it, like even the Fantastic Four. 1816 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:14.159 Like in that case, don't watch it, don't even don't 1817 01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:16.840 even worry about it. But it is like my favorite Superman. 1818 01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:18.560 And see that's what a lot of people are saying. 1819 01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:19.359 It's just it's a good. 1820 01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:20.479 It's just my favorite Superman. 1821 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:23.239 Yeah, and I've heard Fantastic four is actually really good. 1822 01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:24.239 My favorite. Well it is my favorite. I mean the 1823 01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:27.880 bar is lower because all Fantastic Four movies suck, unlike 1824 01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:32.399 Superman Superman movies. So yes, it is the best Fantastic Four. 1825 01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:34.399 But the floor is really low, so it was easy 1826 01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:36.279 to beat the riot. You know, it's me, but it's 1827 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:36.600 really good. 1828 01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:39.199 Though. I didn't see Pedro Pascal, but if. 1829 01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:41.039 It was one or the other, I would recommend. 1830 01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:43.359 Superman Superman over there. Yes, okay, I heard the end 1831 01:39:43.359 --> 01:39:50.520 credit scene is a big doozy and uh fantastic Fantastic No, No, okay, 1832 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.159 not that I remember. Now, I haven't seen anything. I 1833 01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:53.479 don't know. 1834 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.880 It's maybe I just forgot. Maybe it's better than I 1835 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:56.359 think it was. 1836 01:39:56.560 --> 01:39:57.840 Is this the one that silver surfers in? 1837 01:39:57.920 --> 01:39:58.039 Right? 1838 01:39:58.119 --> 01:39:59.600 Yes, that I forgot her name? 1839 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:02.920 But yeah, yeah that girl from Ozark. Yeah, and from 1840 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:04.560 weapons and from weapons, that's right. 1841 01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:06.760 Was she a good silver serf? Well, I'm sure she 1842 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.479 should talk, right, the silver serf does talk? 1843 01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:11.239 Yeah, she talks? Yeah? 1844 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.039 Was it cool? It is cool? 1845 01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:16.119 I mean, yeah, it's cool. I mean you still have 1846 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.039 to it's an alien in silver with a surfer with 1847 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.359 a surfboard. I mean, yeah, so that's ridiculous already, but like, yes, 1848 01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:23.359 it's great, it's cool. 1849 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:23.760 I was. 1850 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:25.479 I mean, she serves lava at some point. It's kind 1851 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.079 of fun. Oh wow? How was Galactus awesome? I read 1852 01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:32.479 the Douglactis. Some people had like weird problems with him. 1853 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.560 I'm like, dude, he was bad ass and gigantic and 1854 01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:38.479 scary and kind of he's a planet here and you 1855 01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:42.039 actually see him eat a planet, which I never assimulate before. Cool. 1856 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:43.760 I think from start to finish. It's not like he's 1857 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.800 preparing a meal, but like you see the how he 1858 01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:50.039 destroys planets, it's kind of cool. I figured, like I 1859 01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:53.119 got my, got my and yeah, okay, and. 1860 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:57.319 Isn't somewhere in like d C history the Silver Surfer 1861 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:00.600 was female at one point. Well, it's his takes on 1862 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:01.239 different forms. 1863 01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:03.760 Well, I think they cast it at a female for 1864 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:10.640 this story, for the emotional plot thora that involving invisible 1865 01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:14.399 woman in the movie, because she's pregnant in the movie. 1866 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.159 So there's like a I won't pull it just because 1867 01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:19.199 of that. I think that's why they made it, made 1868 01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:21.079 her a woman. But also they could do any They 1869 01:41:21.079 --> 01:41:23.159 can gender band anything because of the different universe. It 1870 01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:26.960 doesn't matter, you know, or they never even thought about it, 1871 01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.840 because who cares, right, It's like making that character from 1872 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.359 thor black when he's supposed to be white. Who cares right? 1873 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:34.800 I don't even know which one. 1874 01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:39.920 Yeah you just Elba played a character played the guard. Yeah, yeah, 1875 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.439 that guy, and back then in two thousand and ten, 1876 01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:46.560 eleven whatever, people got up in arms about that because 1877 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:48.119 he's like, you're supposed to be white. I'm like, who 1878 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:48.640 gives a shit? 1879 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:51.520 Like yeah no, But I thought it was like some 1880 01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:55.359 canon in DC Lord that there was either the Silver 1881 01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:57.960 Surfer takes on different forms or it was actually a 1882 01:41:57.960 --> 01:41:59.359 woman at one point in the comedy. 1883 01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:02.079 Yeah, I guess in this case, they're saying that Service 1884 01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.479 Server was always a woman in this sense, like she 1885 01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:07.199 doesn't transform to different genders. I mean, that's what I mean. 1886 01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:09.520 I see. Yeah, I thought they were going more back 1887 01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:11.279 to like source material because of the way that the 1888 01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:11.920 thing looks. 1889 01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:13.319 No, as far as I know, in the in the 1890 01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.159 comic book, Surface Server was always male. Oh okay, yeah, 1891 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:16.800 as far as I know. 1892 01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:21.359 Yeah, then yeah, that's cool. Yeah. And then how about 1893 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:22.079 Alien Earth? 1894 01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:25.359 Oh yeah, you saw Finite Yeah, yeah, I loved it 1895 01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:27.560 so much. You can show dude. I'm so glad you 1896 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:29.960 liked this still, because I was worried you might hate 1897 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:32.399 it because like it ends on a big cliffhanger. Well, 1898 01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:35.000 I mean obvious, but I think it's always like it's 1899 01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:37.600 always better to end the show wanting more, of course, 1900 01:42:37.680 --> 01:42:40.399 but like also you and the show not by saying 1901 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.760 what the hell is gonna happen? Is like, Okay, we're here, 1902 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:43.680 what's gonna happen next? 1903 01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:44.000 Yeah? 1904 01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:45.640 I like that feeling more. I feel like I felt 1905 01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:47.920 that way they caught They caught everyone, put him all 1906 01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:48.560 in a cage. 1907 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:52.239 Yeah cool, But still the technacal monster is out there 1908 01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:52.760 walking around. 1909 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.039 He's got to give you on the eye. And the 1910 01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:57.199 other one too. The other one too, the one that 1911 01:42:57.279 --> 01:42:59.319 venus fly trap that killed that one girl just ate 1912 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.479 her uphole, So that thing is still out there. That's 1913 01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:03.039 two of them. 1914 01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:05.279 Out, yeah, because they contained. 1915 01:43:05.439 --> 01:43:10.239 But we know that that the the Wendy and her 1916 01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:14.279 gang are safe from most of the creatures. Only only 1917 01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.640 the flies, right, Only the flights for sure eat metal 1918 01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:22.000 and I don't know how they survived, but yeah, only 1919 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:24.479 they are danger to them. So far, we don't know 1920 01:43:24.479 --> 01:43:27.720 what the Eye can do yet. Remember in the very 1921 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:32.479 first episode, it tried to go and kill absorb itself 1922 01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:36.479 into one of the androids. Yeah, I did to that 1923 01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:40.920 little girl, the cycle one, the psychle what's her name, 1924 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:44.840 nibs Nis. Yeah, right, that's that's why she got so 1925 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:48.359 scarred up and she got PTSD and started going crazy 1926 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:52.039 because the I went after her when they were first 1927 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:54.840 in the ship when they crashed into the city. So 1928 01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:57.039 that implies that either the Eye doesn't know that it 1929 01:43:57.079 --> 01:43:59.479 can't assimilate to an android or it knows they can 1930 01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:02.439 in it in right, So that's possibly two creatures. I 1931 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:05.840 can attack androids, but most of them are meat eaters 1932 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:06.880 and would just ignore. 1933 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:10.239 Them, right, now we're watching one called Task with. 1934 01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:11.880 I've seen Task. I'm caught up. I saw that. 1935 01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:13.560 It's fun, is it? 1936 01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:15.560 It's a fun Yeah, it's a fun. We're like, it's 1937 01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:18.079 a fun dad show. It's a dad show, dead show. 1938 01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.600 I mean, I mean, what's his name, the main guy. 1939 01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:24.359 It's a Ruffalouffalo. Yeah, Ruffalo is just like from a 1940 01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:27.159 sad dad cop. He's a sad dad cop said that 1941 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:29.560 who was a priest, who was a priest. On top 1942 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:32.279 of it, it doesn't even get more dead than no, no, 1943 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:34.960 because not you know, that's a really rare combination. 1944 01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:39.560 You know, he's from here, right, like Ruffalo is from 1945 01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:40.239 like down the street? 1946 01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:43.920 Oh, or like you, oh, here in this state in Kenosha. Oh okay. 1947 01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:46.159 I was like, he's not from the here that I know. 1948 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:48.079 Yeah, yeah, he's from Kenosha. 1949 01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:51.039 No, I'm saying that. My here is Chicago. Oh I 1950 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.760 don't know, funk about cans fuck your town. Yeah. 1951 01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:56.880 You still see his family name on buildings and stuff 1952 01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:58.880 they have, like Ruffalo's pizza and ship like that. That's 1953 01:44:58.880 --> 01:44:59.319 his family. 1954 01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:03.840 Oh oh did they have that established beforehand before, like 1955 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:06.479 they've they've been big or people are using his name 1956 01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:09.479 to like spout, you know, more important. They've been like 1957 01:45:09.479 --> 01:45:11.600 a staple in the neighborhood. 1958 01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:12.680 Have you generation? 1959 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:12.960 Yeah? 1960 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:13.720 Good food good? 1961 01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:17.399 Yeah, they have like a hair studio, and do they 1962 01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:21.439 have something called the ruffalo Buffalo sauce or something that 1963 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:22.880 would be good? Come on, how do you not. 1964 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:25.000 That would be good? I am gonna pat I'm gonna 1965 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:27.279 market that shrip or likefalo, you. 1966 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:31.640 Know those ruffle ships like Ruffalo ruffles, like chips, there's something. 1967 01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:33.640 Come on, have you started drinking a ready? 1968 01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:40.199 Come about to? Oh my god, good times. I also 1969 01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:45.760 saw him last night that football horror movie Oh with 1970 01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:47.479 the with the Marlon Wayans. 1971 01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:50.680 It looks fucking brutal. 1972 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.079 Oh no, it's definitely. I mean it's brutal and like 1973 01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:58.840 in a very male heavy like like that. Yeah, but 1974 01:45:59.479 --> 01:46:01.600 I didn't. I didn't know it really. No, I didn't 1975 01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:04.199 like it that much. But it's cool stuff though in it, 1976 01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.319 Like there's some cool shit in it. But I feel 1977 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:10.720 like the movie should be like either forty minutes cut 1978 01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:12.800 or like just about something else entirely. 1979 01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:20.000 It's something cool visuals man, but like, no, the movie 1980 01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:20.600 is chaotic. 1981 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:22.800 It doesn't even know what it is. Really. Yeah, I 1982 01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:26.279 didn't social commentary. Well, the way I described it to 1983 01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:30.760 my brother or no, somebody, it was, it's like black 1984 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:34.920 Swan for men. He's in the movie black Swan. Interesting. Yeah, 1985 01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:36.920 Now black Swan's better, I think because it does have 1986 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:39.600 a point and knows where it's going. But like, but 1987 01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:42.239 like imagine black Swan but for men in the sense 1988 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:45.640 like all the precious involved in this very particular kind 1989 01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:48.960 of sports, which is ballerina and there's football, and like 1990 01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:52.359 how male dominated it is. How you know, it has 1991 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:54.560 all that stuff in it that's kind of fun and interesting, 1992 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:58.159 But the movie goes crazy Bonker's places in the third 1993 01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:02.479 act that I'm like, why, like why why? But maybe 1994 01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:02.960 you'll love it. 1995 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:04.760 I don't know, be about something else. 1996 01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:07.119 I can see people loving it. It just wasn't for me. 1997 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:09.680 Well, I like I like Marlon Wayane's Oh. 1998 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:11.960 No, he's great in it. No, he's he's good. Yeah, 1999 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:13.640 he's a good actor in it for sure. I'm not 2000 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:16.119 gonna say. I also saw fourteen o eight for the 2001 01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:19.520 first time. Oh wow, Yeah, I hadn't seen that movie before. 2002 01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:19.920 It's good. 2003 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:20.319 I like it. 2004 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:23.840 Yeah. I like John Cusack So he's a weird actor. 2005 01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:28.560 He can he can do anything. Yeah, yeah, you know, 2006 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.159 we're starting with those rom coms. And then he'll do 2007 01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.560 being John Makovich and be like a weird sleeve ball. 2008 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:37.439 Oh right, and then he'll do like the Raven. He'll 2009 01:47:37.439 --> 01:47:40.840 play Edgar Allen wagon Alan Paul looking for a serial killer. 2010 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:43.720 I'm like, what are you doing? John? And then you'll 2011 01:47:43.760 --> 01:47:45.720 be a serial killer and girls point like, what are 2012 01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:46.079 you doing? 2013 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:47.680 I don't know if we're seeing girls. 2014 01:47:47.399 --> 01:47:50.439 Point horset point blank. He's like an assassin, not a 2015 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:52.840 serial kill. He's an assassin cool, like a hired head man. 2016 01:47:52.880 --> 01:47:55.159 What about the one where he was like, was it 2017 01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:57.000 wasn't him? Who was like twenty different people? Yes? 2018 01:47:57.079 --> 01:47:58.239 Uh that identity? 2019 01:47:58.439 --> 01:47:58.760 I did it? 2020 01:47:58.840 --> 01:47:59.560 Yeah? I like that. 2021 01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:00.000 That was good. 2022 01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:01.720 Also, that's not another horror movie that. 2023 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:03.279 He was in the nineties Q sack Man. 2024 01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:05.720 And I'm just saying, you take decades of him. He's 2025 01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:07.680 completely different, roles, completely different. 2026 01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:08.560 What was the big one? 2027 01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:11.399 One Crazy Summer from like early eighties? Oh that one, 2028 01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:13.199 I don't know. Oh you gotta know that. 2029 01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:14.880 One Crazy Summer's girl classic. 2030 01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:16.840 Now I saw a bunch of eighties but not not 2031 01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:24.239 all of them. Wasn't he in never mind? Something bad? Influence? No, 2032 01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:26.840 was he No, I wasn't. Maybe that was James Pader. 2033 01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:29.279 I was confusing with James Peter in eighties. 2034 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:30.920 But it was huge. 2035 01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:33.439 How wonder how old he is right now? I mean 2036 01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:35.159 he's like, he's like a little older than you. 2037 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:39.479 I'd say sixties. 2038 01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:42.359 Okay, I gonna ask Siria again. 2039 01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:53.560 Hey, Siri, how old is John Cusack? Fifty nine? 2040 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:58.920 Okay, see, nothing's close on your age, so not not 2041 01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:02.239 close to my age, pretty close. So when went aha, 2042 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.119 I'm like, uh huh, like gets annoyed that you're calling her. 2043 01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:06.439 That was funny. 2044 01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:08.119 I'm not a fan of her.