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tomorrow here on the same BAT channel, same BAT time. Again.
If you're old enough, you know what I just said.
So looking looking forward, So next year this is this
is I'm not a big I'm not a believer in fate.
I'm not a believer in you know, the supernatural influencing
day to day life. I'm just not that way. I
love supernatural lit, love it, absolutely, read it and digested
and appreciate it because I think it's a reflection of
human psychology. But next year, it is interesting to note
that next year will be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
I think the quarter millennial. So the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of the country. That'll be a very big deal.
The following it also will be the year of the Olympics,
so Donald Trump will be president during those times. I
know it's going to make Democrats just crazy. Now, that
may be helpful to the Republicans. If we're heading into
a centennial of some sort, then it's going to be
fascinating to see how that plays. If you're an America
First agenda and you're very American oriented, you're going to
be thrilled about that. I mean, and that could be
very helpful. Again, it's interesting that the facts on the
ground often steer people's thoughts or what they're thinking about
that what they're reflecting on. I think next year, you know,
just like in nineteen seventy six, going to be very
much interested in our country. I think we're going to
be interested in reflected what does it mean, what have
we accomplished, what have we yet to accomplish. It's a
kind of a reflection and look forward on what's going
to happen. You have the Olympics, so we'll hopefully not
just be celebrating the country, but celebrating our country's competitive nature. Now,
let's take a moment and reflect on what the Democrats
have found themselves getting my Again, I hate to be
repetitive here. I'm not trying to be I'm not trying
to lack creativity here. It is just a juxtaposition of
what's valuable. One team is saying, we really want to
defend the borders from an invading force of people that
we don't know that some of those people are trying
to better their lives. Yes, some of those people mean
to do as harm. If you're a terrorist organization, the
best way to get into our country is find a
way to get to Mexico, come across the border, and
get yourself organized and ready to perpetrate acts that hurt
the country. Democrats do not acknowledge that last part. And furthermore,
there are legal ways to get here. You heard a
caller earlier on this very broadcast clearly someone who got
here legally. And if you want to see the most
vehement anti illegal perspective are the people who came here
legally and fought tooth and nail to get here legally
and establish themselves as citizens. I loved his comment when
he said, I still love my food, I still love soccer,
you know, but that's my culture, that's not my country USA. First,
that's the attitude that people that have become citizens typically have.
The Left doesn't seem to care or understand that the
fact that the American public seize the left is disconnected
from border security is a problem for them. And through
the Dosee thing, you would think, if I were a Democrat,
and again I'm unfortunately giving them free advice, if I
were a Democrat and I really believed in all of
these big government things, one of the things I would
like to assert, I say, you know what, I'm glad
that Doge is there. I'm glad that Musk and his
team are doing this for us because that means that
the dollars that we are taking from taxpayers and spending
on these programs are helping the people that are that's
intended to help. Do Democrats do that golden opportunity? Nope,
they do not. Instead, Elon Musk is an oligarch that
must be stopped. Elon Musk is enriching himself. Now they
can't provide any proof he's enriching himself. So what are they.
Here's what Democrats do. They attack the messenger. So Musk
identifies waste fraud abuse, and the Democrats attack Musk. Not
only that, but they're crazies on the ground, start attacking cars.
They're attacking Tesla's. Now the transaction where someone bought a
Tesla has already taken place. Remember the darling, the darling
of the left was Elon Musk producing these evs, and
the left thought it's going to save the planet. So
now that transaction's taking place, most of the people who
own Tesla's, not all of them, but many of them
let lean left. And so what do they attack the
cars and they're we are attacking the people that are
in the cars. Unbelievable, It's almost unfathomable that that's the
way they're conducting themselves. They have the opportunity again to
be pro America. They could even they could even say,
you know what, we really I don't know, I don't
understand that. So you've got the teslinal situation. They're attacking cars,
they're attacking and they like this physical assault stuff, which
is a very unfortunate place that we find ourselves in
American history, where it's okay to try to kill a president.
I don't know why that's okay. But as they're looking forward.
You would think even on the war, you would think
that the left would say, hey, let's try to stop
this war. Let's try to stop the killing of innocence.
Let's find a way. Russia bad, Russia, bad, Russia bad,
Let's end the war. Instead, they're like, no end in sight.
Billions of dollars spent, is there any is there any
where if we spend this money, what's the outcome? Endless war?
The Democrats of the sixties would not have been that way.
I don't think. I mean Lynna Johnson, I guess, got
us into Kennedy got us into Vietnam. Johnson kept us there.
Nixon brought us home weird, So I don't know. And again,
if you're looking for who is the messenger for the
Democrats at this point in time, I don't know who
you would go to. It's certainly not Polos, not the
octagenarians of Pelosi and almost octagenarian Schumer. It's not Adam Schiff.
It's not Gavin Newsom, although I think he would like
to be. They've got a virtue signal and find someone
that's a it's not going to be, you know, the
Obama team. Obama's gone. It's not Team Clinton, it's so
I mean, there's a massive vacuum. There's no one to
assume the mantle. I think Newsom is probably the closest
to someone who can adopt, you know, try to transition
into some of these issues, lean into them a little bit.
There have been several Democrats like Carvel that said, we
need to get away from this identity politics stuff. It's
killing us. And it is. And then when you look
at the collective group of Maxine Waters by the way, Maxine,
I've seen interviews with her lately, she's really she's not well.
Elizabeth Warren. I mean it's I mean, when the President
of the United States calls you out in his address
to Congress, right to her face. It was, and she's
sitting there on her phone the whole time. Bernie, I mean, Bernie.
If I play and here's here's something interesting about Bernie.
So Bernie, it made the news. He had about four
thousand people at a rally. The person that sang a
song at the Bernie rally, I cannot play that song
for you on air. It is about God raping someone
and and it it I can't. I can't even if
I wanted to play you the song, it would get
an FCC violation against the station. It would have an
X rating. Well, if songs could have an X rating,
it would happen because it's very, very flaggerant, very vulgar.
And that was the Bernie Sanders song at the Roulety
they played. I can't even play it for you on air.
How do they think that that brings people to their cause?
And how you can tell, how you can tell? This
is what I'm that. There is veracity that you can verify.
What I'm telling you to be true is that the
Democrats at the state level are not grabbing hold and
running with that. The Democrats at the state of North
Carolina are not interested in any of this. And John,
I'll tell you what. John, I've got to take a
break here, and I apologize. You came in right here
as a break. We're going to go to the break
come back. I want to get you in the queue there.
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Speaker 2: John, if you are there, let's go ahead and wrap.
What's going on? Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm fans a lifelong Democrat, but I keep an open
mind on things. There are things I like about what
Trump is doing and a lot of things I don't like.
But and I will agree that Democrats are in disarray
right now. But what I find most interesting is listening
to your station a lot is the last week, virtually
every host is mostly talking about the Democrats. And I
have a theory about that. And my theory is that
the Trump administration is a big cluster. You know what,
the stock.
Speaker 4: Market is tanking, tariffs are threatening a recession. Is his
ratings are downs, you know, tariffs are on, tariffs are off.
I mean, it's it's been a disaster, frankly, which is
really why you're mostly talking about the Democrats right now.
And one thing I wanted to point out in particular
about some of the hypocrisy about the attacks, and some
of them are legitimate, but the whole thing, Oh, they
didn't stand during this, they didn't claugh during that. Well,
during Biden's last State of the Union said political violence
has no place in this country, and not a single
Republican stood up, not a single Republican clapped. So it
goes both ways.
Speaker 2: But there were times during Biden's even Biden speeches where
both sides stood up and clapped. Well you've seen, Well.
Speaker 3: If we haven't stand up, but if you can't stand
up and clap for political violence has no place in
the country, then I'm sorry. That's a party that's morally banged,
but he.
Speaker 2: Talked about but he also labeled white supremacy as the
number one terrorist threat to the country.
Speaker 3: Well, it is, and that's what the effort. It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not even close, and I'm not I
appreciate your perspective, but you said some things that I
want to go to to get there. It's it's not
a it's not a cluster. If you look in fact
economists you gov poll that was released, these are the
latest ones Emerson had Trump favorable forty six unfavorable for
These are the most recent real cropopics. Anybody can go
look at it, and that was forty six forty five.
Economists you gov poll, which is even more recent is
forty seven fifty two. So him, his numbers are not tanking.
And I appreciate you trying to say they are, but
they're not. I mean, that's just not a true statement.
And when you look at the markets, yeah, tariffs, Uncertainty
with tariffs creates uncertainty in markets. Markets love certainty, but
don't pretend that the past four years. Remember when inflation
was transitory, It never was transitory. I mean, surely you
didn't fall for the its transitory thing.
Speaker 3: Did you I don't know what you mean by it
was transitory.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was just it wasn't a thing. It wasn't real.
They were saying, Oh, it's just.
Speaker 3: A it's just it was real, and it was.
Speaker 2: Real, but they denied it was real the whole time after.
Speaker 3: It was a pandemic that Trump ignored and created.
Speaker 2: How did he ignore it? In? What way did he
ignore it?
Speaker 3: And what way did it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: He said it was going to go away in no time.
Speaker 2: But wasn't sharp speed didn't warp speed for those who
loved the warp speed took place under Trump? Did it not?
And the pandemic was pretty much over by the time
Biden took office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he finally paid attention and more people died. What's that?
Speaker 2: But but more people died anyway. I'm not going to
get into that because because because you have transition.
Speaker 3: The main point I'm making is this administration so far
has been other than the border crossing, what you'll give
him credit for. Other than that, it's been an abject
disaster of going back and forth, hiring people, firing people,
tariffs on tariffs, of it's complete instability. It's a bunch
of clown car billionaires and drunken box hosts. People. It's
a joke. It's a joke in the government. When we
go into a recession, the poll numbers will change and
then you'll have to start to talk about what.
Speaker 2: And co let's talk. Let's talk about some of these policies.
Because I agree with you. I think there is well
I don't agree with everything said, but what I am
saying is we are definitely in a transition period. There's
no doubt about that. This is one of the most
rapid transitions we've ever seen in our lifetime. You haven't
seen a president this active, Republican or Democrat. I mean
not Reagae, not Bush, not Clinton. They've been very active,
hitting the ground running. Whether you agree or not that
I appreciate that we agree on the border. Plus, I
think you want a secure border. What I'm hearing you.
Speaker 3: Say everywhere secure border?
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody didn't. The previous
administration did not. Remember, they said they couldn't do anything
without Congress, and they blamed Trump for stopping stuff at
the border. And then we find in five or six
weeks that wait, wait, wait, wait, right, we agree on that,
but but don't forget that you had an administration that
said nothing could be done about it. So we were
told that for four years. Wait, you think the Biden
administration did everything they could to secure the border.
Speaker 3: They yes, No, I'm saying I don't know if they
said those words, but I'm sure they didn't. I'm agreeing
they didn't have a good Quarterbolicy. Move on now, so.
Speaker 2: We do have a situation where Trump is very provocative.
I went through, in fact, I went through Trump and Greenland,
Trump and Ukraine, Trump and Gaza, Trump and NATO. I
did talk about all of those issues. It wasn't just
about Democrats. It's about the nature of those conversations. Correct.
Speaker 3: I wasn't listening all.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair to absolutely fair,
And I appreciate your perspective.
Speaker 3: I do find about, in general, your hosts on your
station are not really talking much about accomplishments. They're talking
mostly about how bad the Democrats are, and I think
that's because Trump has been a disaster so far in
the border.
Speaker 2: Let me let me agree with you in this way,
and this is one thing I don't like. I'm concerned,
and I open the show with this. My biggest concern
with Democrats right now is their hatred of Trump overcomes
their desire to debate issue. And I think that we
saw that for the past four years, six years, eight
years on MSNBC and CNN. The same criticism you would
have a Fox and you didn't include Newsmax but all
their newsmas and their Fox Newsmac Bright Part National Review.
I could throw a bunch of things on the right.
The same criticism you would have of those organizations, which
I agree are right leaning, are the same criticisms I
think many people would have. You would agree that MSNBC
and CNN buy and large have been dominated by Trump
hatred for the past eight ten years. Yeah, would you
agree with Okay? So agree?
Speaker 3: I agree that both sides hate each other and do
not want to cooperate with you, and that's not productive
for the degree. I like John Fetterman. I think people
need to be more like him. There needs to be
opportunities to work together. Absolutely, But that does.
Speaker 2: You like Grand Paul? I mean you mentioned Fetterman. Would
you like someone like Rand Paul? I think Rand Paul's.
Speaker 3: Very clear that libertarian is a pipe dream. I mean,
if we if you could start the country over from scratch,
which maybe you should implement some of those policies. But
for the most part, other than things like free speech,
libertarianism is just a it's not a bible.
Speaker 2: But don't you think that social moderates are kind of libertarian?
So fiscally conservative socially moderate is yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't want to just like eliminate
the government completely, but you want to have a smaller government,
then yes, I can. I can agree with you know,
a libertarian position as being a viable one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So again I said.
Speaker 3: Some of that Trump has pretty much been a disaster.
Maybe you could explain that to some of your goosts.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't because I don't think. I think we're
in a transition. You're judging an entire administration on one month,
one and a half months.
Speaker 3: True, it's early, it's totally we'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll see. I like, at least you'll you'll say, we'll see.
I don't think it's been a disaster yet. You've got
a cabinet confirmation process that's been expedited in a way
we haven't seen. You've got a lot of activity going on.
I think you do would like I said this earlier
in the show. I think most people on the left
would like a lot of doze because it would ultimately
mean that the dollars that are being spent on these
social programs that left the left cares about would be
spent more on the people who need it the most.
You would agree, You're right.
Speaker 3: Well, And what's interesting is that clearly the protests or
the calls or whatever are working, because you'll notice that
the Republicans are now using the talking point that the
Democrats first you use, which is not a cleaver but
a scalpel, and the Republicans are now using that. So
the real John, you can't you can't fire people with
the nuclear codes. Event John, when you say I want
to hire them back, they're going to say after you.
Speaker 2: You know, John, I want to make sure you feel
you were treated fairly and that we held the break
for you. And I appreciate you calling in.
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Speaker 2: And I found I love calls that sound like it
sounds like a trope. Doesn't it sound like some kind
of repetitive broken record? For those of you who know
what records are, a broken CD, It's hard to believe
that even saying broken CD is kind of get dating you,
isn't it. So many of you ate tracks, then you
knw cassettes, then you knew, you know, you knew lplp's
are making a comeback, though I know people that are,
you know, scrounging through little stores getting those things. But
John's call, I find calls interesting. And I found John's
call interesting because I he is illustrative of the division
that is more emotional than rational, and it's on both sides.
I'm not castigating John, Okay, I'm not. I'm not picking
on John. John took the time to take make a
phone call here to get his point across, and he's
appreciated for doing so. And I think it is easy
one of the easy things. Well, I wouldn't say easy.
Being a talk show has imagined trying to talk and
be in a good mood for three hours every day
or four and you know, in Winterble's case, every day.
You know, that's there's a lot to it. There's a
lot more work to being a host than you may think. Nonetheless,
it is sometimes easy to just go other side bad.
Those are bad people. They're bad. They're bad, They're I
I'm a policy guy, i was a former elected official.
I've worked in think tanks, I've I've been a radio host.
I've been very blessed in many endeavors in life, and
I'm thankful for them. Business owner, uh, you know, and
and been around these circles of power on both sides
for a long time now. I've only been a Republican
and conservative for all that time, but been around them.
So as I as I listened to him, you can
see the the way he feels about Trump, the way
many people on the right feel about someone like Adam
Schiff or Nancy Pelosi. It's it's you know, he said,
it's just a train I don't think he used the
word train wreck, but he used a cluster, is what
he said. It's a cluster for the past month and
a half. And I think it's very difficult to judge
an entire administration in a month and a half. Now,
if I were on the receiving end of what's happening
in the stock market today, you absolutely could say that.
I mean, the stock markets have been a very very
strange day, to say the least. I mean, the Dow
was off I think I don't know if it still is,
but it was off about nine hundred points. I'll update
that here in a second, because all I have to do
is pull it up and it'll give me the latest
and greatest on that. So, yeah, the Nasdaq is down
almost four percent, the Dow's off nine to twenty six
over two percent. So yeah, today, the I think Trump's
news conference where he answered a lot of questions and
did not put a cap on saying there's going to
be a recession, and that unleashed the uncertainty. Having been
an investment broker at one time, I can tell you
uncertainty and see there could be a fallacy. They're called
appeal to authority, but uncertain markets don't like uncertainty. They
don't know if there's going to be tariffs, how long
they're going to be, how long it's going to last.
But it doesn't like that, and so this is a
bit volatile. Tariffs are used now it's not good for
them either. So it's not good for Mexico, it's not
good for Canada, it's not good for anybody involved in this.
You don't want to get in an escalating trade war.
Which you want is you want trade partners that are
treating each other equably. Now, the Canadians have had some
massive tariffs on a lot of stuff that we've been
selling for some time. This is an adjustment to that.
There will be an adjustment period. I don't know how
far this will go. Would it go all the ray
of recession? I think a lot of people in the market.
I found several stories and this is not from anybody
that I think loves Trump by any stretch. But this
is over at CNBC. A three week market sell off
intensified on Monday, with investors worried about tariff policy uncertainty
tipping the economy into a recession, something Trump did not
rule out. Over the weekend, the dal Jones dropped eight
hundred and sixty four points it's now over nine hundred.
The S and P shed to point eight percent, NASDAC
down about four point three. More tech heavy both the
S and P and tech heavy NASDAK dropped their lowest
levels since September of last year. The Nasdaq was weighed
down by declines in the magnificent seven co Ort, Tesla, Alphabet, Meta, Nvidia.
All of those, but the benchmark ten year treasury yield
fell nine basis points to four in a quarter. Are
a little less than four in a quarter. But when
you think about this, you go on to the quotes
about what people are saying, we are in the throes
of a manufactured correction. I say manufactured because it's really
based in response to the new administration's tariff programs, or
at least the threats, and what kind of an impact
that will have in the economy. Now with people talking
about potential recession, I think it's just adding to concern,
said Sam Stoveall, chief investment strategists for cfr A Research.
Right now, we're going through a typical pullback and probably
will experience a correction mild before it's all completed, which
actually would be good for the resetting of the dials
on this ongoing bull market. There could be even more
turbulence this week with a heavy dose of economic data.
Data by the way, that's been compiled prior to Trump
taking office. It's going to be the result that we'll see.
But again, this is a panic, but it is it
is a It's one of those days you're gonna kind
of remember.
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Speaker 2: It's in the break. I was trying to figure out
a way to fit the square peg in a round
hole and to say that I wish we could get
away from the the weapons of mass distraction, the politics
of personal destruction. I don't foresee that happening. It's too
cool and trendy and hip to kind of just attack
an individual. I've been going after the Democrats collectively because
I think they're very myopic in the way they want
to ride this out. There is no way. And we
saw this when George Bush took on social security to
try to say we have a problem with social security,
we don't need to kick it down. He went on
a national tour. I actually went to see him in
Raleigh when he came in and immediately because he was
trying to fix a known problem with social security. He
was trying to fix that issue, his own party attacked
him and it shut down the discussion, and so there
was no reform. There's no entitlement. Reform is the third
rail of American politics. Medicaid, Medicare, social security, if you
want to save it, they'll put a stake through your
heart and they'll throw your body in the rear, they'll
bury it. They'll cut you up in little bitty pieces
and then wash you downstream and then find you and
put you on a funeral pier and bear it and
burn you like a Viking funeral. That's how that's how
bad it is. You are politically toast if you touch
those no one has attempted. This is the closest we've
ever come to fixing. And you cannot fix the problem
of government and solvency, in solvency and debt and deficit
spending without touching those entitlements. Now, that doesn't mean you
have to cut people's benefits, that doesn't mean you end them.
The problem is if you try to improve them, you
will be pilloried by the other side. Now Dems. Dems
will never touch it. There's not enough money you can
put into any given government program that a Democrat would say,
you know what, it's fully funded. We don't need to
do it. And you can see that in teaching. So
as education has gone downhill and money spent on per
pupil has gone through the roof, there's never enough you
can never. Roy Cooper in eight years of being governed,
never ever said, you know what, I think those increases
are enough. Whatever the Republicans said, he would just double
and say, see they're underfunding education. I would do I
would give more and you can add that to any
government program. Democrats typically EPA needs more money, Education needs
more money. I don't know, infrastructure needs more money. Whatever
it is. Their answer is always it's predictable as the when.
And I challenge any of you Democrats to point out otherwise.
They don't. They don't see that there's a dollar amount
at which they would say, you know what, it's doing great.
In fact, it's doing so well we can cut it.
Republicans' desire to cut it is mired with their courage
to do so. So this is the first time in
our lifetime that well you had Bill Clinton and new
Gangridge that work together have a balanced budget, but it
was still delaying the inevitable problems with entitlements. And new
Gingridge would tell you that Bill Clinton, in a moment
of honesty, would if there wasn't a woman in the room.
So looking at this, Trump is taking a through Doge
is attempting something that nobody in our lifetime is done.
We have to get the waste fraud abuse out. We
should get rid of programs that don't service the American public.
You see that with the Apartment of Education being gone,
is a good step. How much of the environmental side
can states stand I think a lot. I think a
lot of the federal stuff you can do a lot
less at the federal level. We can do almost everything
less at the federal level. But at some point we
will have I have to discuss how to save those
three entitlements. I don't know. If a Democrat will be
in office then I don't know. If a Republican will
be in office, then I don't know if even this administration,
which from a government cutting standpoint is the most courageous
we've seen in our lifetime, could do that. I don't know.
But this uncertainty right now, I mean, in fact, if
you want to look, there's plenty of Forbes and other
that are saying, look, there are a lot of contra indicators.
There are plenty of people that can raise their odds
to a twenty percent that there'll be a recession this year.
That you can say that. You could also say that
rising recession odds and the prospects of sharply negative economic
growth sound like the sky is falling. But there's a
lot of evidence to suggest the US isn't on the
doorstep of a downturn. There's plenty of it, and this
is from Forbes. As recently the summer of twenty three
Goldman recession models signaled a more than thirty percent of
chance of recession, just before the US ripped off seven
consecutive quarters of more growth. So if we make it through,
I think this is going to be a difficult transition period,
no doubt in my mind. Will consumer confidence be shaken,
don't know, I mean absolutely, I think it will be.
At some point. People are gonna get a little scared
because people don't like uncertainty. Nobody nobody likes uncertainty. So
the prospects that it could be rough in this short term,
but I think the American public has been conditioned to
say there's going to be some tough times ahead. But
getting on the other side of that, there could be
tremendous upside or, as Trump would say, upsides like we've
never seen before, like the country's never seen the Golden era,
he says, and promises.
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