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<v Speaker 2>Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Brett Ford. Brett,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks so much for being here. We appreciate your time. Brett,

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<v Speaker 2>Please give us a brief bio on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I currently live in Ontario. My wife's family

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<v Speaker 1>is all from Cornerbrook, Newfoundland. And yeah, I'm a business owner,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a spiritual coach, so I do

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few things. I've got three kids, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this adventure where my experience came in was last summer,

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer twenty twenty five, and we were on

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<v Speaker 1>a family trip. So that's yeah, that's where we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>our off today.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of the fact that you were on a family

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<v Speaker 2>trip when you had that dog meaning encounter and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just some run to the mill place. It was

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<v Speaker 2>in Newfoundland. Did that wind up ruining your vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>For us? No, it was actually Again, I know many

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<v Speaker 1>people's experiences have been quite different. But for us, it

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<v Speaker 1>was my son and I that saw these dogmen. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just driving, so I wasn't out and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessariyly feel you know, it's kind of something from

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective, I was able just to kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>through and it certainly didn't ruin our trip. No, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank goodness. We're in Newfoundland. If you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>us did that encounter happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm actually on the on a map right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just so again I can try to describe it as

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<v Speaker 1>best I can. So we came in via the port there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about six seven hour ferry ride, and we came

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<v Speaker 1>in about Port of Baskus, So that's where one of

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<v Speaker 1>the there's about two ferries. One goes to the west

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<v Speaker 1>side of the island and one goes to the east.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there may be more, but those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two main ones. So because my wife's family's in Cornerbrook,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's about a three hour drive from Port

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<v Speaker 1>of Baskus, So we got in and the night night

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<v Speaker 1>ship and yeah, we started driving up through Port of

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<v Speaker 1>Bass through Saint Andrew South Branch all the way up.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's the trans Canada Highway and or the

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<v Speaker 1>Newfoundland part of it anyways, and then you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say it happened before Stephenville. There's an exit for

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<v Speaker 1>Stephenville that before you go to Glance and up to Cornerbrook. There,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it probably happened somewhere. Again, it was

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<v Speaker 1>late at night, so between one and two am, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, we were heading this way, so it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happened. Yeah, between North Branch and Stephenville is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the area that we saw the encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>So dog men are in a lot of different places,

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<v Speaker 2>but Newfoundland that's not exactly on the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>list of places i'd expect and eyewitness to see one.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, they are all over so you

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<v Speaker 2>really never know where you're going to see one. Before

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<v Speaker 2>we go any further. Bred said that, I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people listening who have no knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>whatsoever of what Newfoundland's all about. Please give us an

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<v Speaker 2>education on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Newfoundland is I believe the largest island. It's

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<v Speaker 1>off the east coast up past Canada. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you are from the US, you know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Maine and then it's New Brunswick and then kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Nova Scotia and then Newfoundland. Now it is Newfoundland and Labrador.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one province, so we call them provinces and

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<v Speaker 1>not states. But yeah, so it's all one base. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically just a large island. We have again another

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<v Speaker 1>large island on the opposite side, Vancouver Island. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because like I didn't expect it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred years ago, I think there may have

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<v Speaker 1>been wolves on the island, but there are no wolves

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<v Speaker 1>on the island. There's you know, there's caribou, there's moose,

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<v Speaker 1>there's black bear. I think there may be links. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure, but there's certainly no wolves that that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of, And you know, it's it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where it's just a beautiful area. There's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>differences on the island, like the west side island tends

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<v Speaker 1>to have more snow in the wintertime and the east

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<v Speaker 1>side is a little bit more calm but very foggy.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is really only one main road across the island,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes about six hours from corner Brook to

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<v Speaker 1>Saint John's I think, so it's about nine ten hours

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<v Speaker 1>across the whole island. If you're driving, you're you lined

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<v Speaker 1>up through Gander and some other places. But it really

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<v Speaker 1>is just a beautiful part of Canada. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>rock faces, there's many lakes everywhere. There's it's it's surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by the ocean, so there you know, the ocean on

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<v Speaker 1>all sides of it. You know, there's lots of fishing there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's one of the main industries, fishing and

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<v Speaker 1>forestry and some of the other things. Lots of people there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't been like the typical job market there, so lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people end up traveling for work. They might go

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<v Speaker 1>up to Alberta or wherever to get stuff. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a place that is slowly developing. The two main

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<v Speaker 1>areas I want to say are Corner Brook and Saint John's.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, usually people end up living in one or

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<v Speaker 1>the other, at least when you think of the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the two main places there across the island.

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<v Speaker 1>What's actually interesting about Newfoundland is it was where certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Native people there. My wife's Native, I'm Native.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both different, different clans and different tribes there. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings actually landed there and they mixed with the

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<v Speaker 1>local people. So that was one of the first points

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<v Speaker 1>that people ever came from with the Vikings land it

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<v Speaker 1>on the island, and yeah, ended up mixing with people,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of history there too. Also, the

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<v Speaker 1>furthest point in uh in North America is on in

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<v Speaker 1>on the island near Saint John's there. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>called It's near There's it's the easternmost point of Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's Cape Spear and there's a really cool historic

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<v Speaker 1>site there and and had some World War two military

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<v Speaker 1>bases and things, and I know that also, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>America has some some military operations there as well as

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<v Speaker 1>Canada of course. So it's you know, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very beautiful. There's lots of big pine trees, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>land is ancient, it's rocky, it's it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's when you think of being out in the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, that's probably one of the most ideal places

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<v Speaker 1>to think of, whether it's that or Alaska. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the eastern sides of the island. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very humbling because there's lots of souls that have been

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the sea out there. There's lots of again

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<v Speaker 1>ancient it's ancient land, right, It's it's lots of lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been there through through life, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just certainly a cool place you ever get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to visit. Everybody's so kind and just wonderful, wonderful group

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So, yeah, great place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of biased. You described it as being a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful part of Canada. I don't think I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>any part of Canada that I don't think is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's certainly, certainly very you know, the whole country

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<v Speaker 1>is beautiful. I mean, even America is beautiful. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different places across Canada and the US

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<v Speaker 1>that well, and across the world, Like there's it's hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>because there's little pockets, you know. It's like you can

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<v Speaker 1>drive you know, anywhere from five five to ten hours

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<v Speaker 1>and you're in a totally different place. Right, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool to see at least, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>love the water and you love you know, the forest

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<v Speaker 1>and you love being out in nature, that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>place to be, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like it'd be a great place to visit,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe someday I can make it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of you and your wife talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>dog meme that you and your son saw, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say just a little bit, Like my wife is

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<v Speaker 1>very practical, and again I think going between it all

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<v Speaker 1>like she knows who I am, she married me, she

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<v Speaker 1>loves me. But I think that when we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>cryptids or any sort of entity that really isn't human

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly not you know, classic animal, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that you you have to allow yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>have a belief because if you don't have usually and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, because sometimes this stuff will pop up

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a belief and then it's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I was expecting. Whether you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly if you're open to experiences, they can they're more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to happen. And sometimes that happens with you just subconsciously.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be open to something and it happens. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, we told her about the event, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she kind of she didn't. It was nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>no sweat off her back because it didn't affect her

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<v Speaker 1>in a negative way. And you know, it wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>until after the experience that I was able to like

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<v Speaker 1>think through it and let my son kind of talk

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<v Speaker 1>through it and you know, just be open and about

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<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. And again, I'm much more open

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<v Speaker 1>and receptive to everything from ghosts to cryptids. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not far outside of my lane for

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. So I would say that again, we

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<v Speaker 1>just had had a brief talk. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as as long as I'm not to going too

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<v Speaker 1>far off the deep end in terms of allowing myself

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<v Speaker 1>to live in that all the time, then it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>to manage. I think a lot of times. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saying this with with all the love I can, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that many of us could certainly get trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a place where that becomes our only focus.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously this is something that you do,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's wonderful to have this because it is needed

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<v Speaker 1>because people don't know where to take their experiences, whether

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<v Speaker 1>and even the military, you know, whether it was aliens

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<v Speaker 1>or not. You know, pilots have these experiences and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where to take that stuff. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>so important that we have these channels, but we'd also

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get lost in it, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to let it. You know, if you've had

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<v Speaker 1>a negative experience, or if you've had a neutral experience,

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<v Speaker 1>even it's it's it's okay to go and process it

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly will change you, but you still have

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<v Speaker 1>to like live in the world, you know, and it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's important to have groups because when

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk about things that with people that understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can allow yourself to heal through your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially negative experience and also then process it and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I still also have a job to go to on Monday, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think it's important to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And like, I truly believe that each

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<v Speaker 1>experience has something to teach us. And again, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a negative experience for some or a positive for others,

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<v Speaker 1>or or a neutral experience. I don't think these dogmen

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to say just fortunate, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that most people would say that they've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see something for the first time. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>the very first time I actually physically saw one, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and it just kind of is like, oh, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more than meets the eye. It's like the crows

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<v Speaker 1>that are beautiful birds in different different wavelengths and different spectrums, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're open to that stuff, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>just more to the world. And but you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, you have you have a very practical life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like to kind of take the supernatural as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the practical and kind of find that nice

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, no, you know, and you're just being

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<v Speaker 1>Meant for, or you can go the opposite way and

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<v Speaker 1>because you're just so gone. And so that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think integration is so important with any of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, again, my wife's a little bit different, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my son and I were able to talk through it

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<v Speaker 2>So, you saw a ghost, you saw a dog man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest reasons why you're still

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<v Speaker 2>that you're so open minded. I think that's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people like you when you have an experience, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a dog mean or seeing a ghost. When you

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<v Speaker 2>have a mindset, when you have a paradigm like what

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<v Speaker 2>you do, that just helps so much. It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've had a dog mean encounter that you need

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<v Speaker 2>help dealing with, or if you'd like to be a

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<v Speaker 2>guest on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and submit a report. If you've had a Bigfoot sighting,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll like to be a guest on one of my

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<v Speaker 2>two big Foot podcasts. Please go to my Bigfoot sighting

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. All right, Brett, please tell us about your encounters. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>give us server less detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so again we were driving through you know, Port

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<v Speaker 1>of Masks up through towards Stephenville and eventually Cornerbrook there

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<v Speaker 1>and it was late at night. Again, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>into Port of Bass is really kind of there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's an eerie sense there, right, because it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first point on the on the island. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the entry points. So the way start crashing against the rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all pitch black. So when we get off, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't know where to go at first, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you're just kind of following the car in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you because you're you're on a boat with a

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<v Speaker 1>big you know, a bunch of cars. So it's nighttime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like being in a big city. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>lights everywhere, so you're really beholden to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just nature and the cars in front of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you kind of get on this one lane road

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going there's this again Portbasses little town. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, some homes and there's gas station, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to fill up on gas because you might

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<v Speaker 1>go an hour or two without seeing a gas station, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we you know, we made sure to get gas.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say it's probably eleven o'clock at night at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, twelve o'clock at night, and and so we

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<v Speaker 1>just start following the car in front of us, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going. It's it's pitch black. So if you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically a two lane highway, but then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>so every once in a while there's a passing lane

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<v Speaker 1>the road, an extra lane will come in so then

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<v Speaker 1>you can pass. Because there's big trucks, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>the only lane for most of the trucks to get

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<v Speaker 1>to bring stuff the goods around the entire island. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, there's transport trucks and whatnot, and they're hustling.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to get to where they're going. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's nighttime, so you know, once in a while you

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<v Speaker 1>can pass somebody, or sometimes even the trucks are going

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<v Speaker 1>so fast that you might let them pass you. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're driving and you know, the lanes are alternating, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just late at night and we're just going and

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<v Speaker 1>and we're fortunate, you know. I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound stereotypical, but it was kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>really bright night out for us. There was I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a full moon, you know, for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a classic werewolf story or anything, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the moon was bright enough that it was giving some

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<v Speaker 1>good light off. And so when you're driving here, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to think of all these big, beautiful trees. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to think of all these big, gorgeous evergreen trees.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you have the two lane and it's

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<v Speaker 1>three lanes a lot of the way because of that

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<v Speaker 1>alternating lane, and so as you're going it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>opens up. Sometimes it's a little bit narrower and the

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<v Speaker 1>trees are right by the highway, and other times it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opens up and there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a ravine on the edges of the side, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's kind of a tree line there. And again, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bright night when we were out in

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of more open areas, so there'll be trees,

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a bunch of trees, and then they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of open planes and then there'll be like little

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<v Speaker 1>lakes and little things all around. And there was lots

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<v Speaker 1>of reds and yellows and greens kind of colors all

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<v Speaker 1>aroun around. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Summertime and we were going We were driving in our

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<v Speaker 1>little Ford Explorer here. It's a wonderful car. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>like it a lot. But we're going down and my

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got all the luggage in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got luggage on the top, and my one son

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<v Speaker 1>is in the very back, and my daughter's in the

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<v Speaker 1>in her car seat on the side, and my other son,

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<v Speaker 1>who's who's twelve at the time, he's sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>right hand seat behind the passenger where my wife was sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving, and my wife and my daughter and my

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<v Speaker 1>other son were asleep, so they're all kind of just sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We got a couple hours to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>So my other son, my son that saw the dog

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<v Speaker 1>man with me, was was awake, and so he's just

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<v Speaker 1>looking out the thing, you know, he's looking out the

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<v Speaker 1>window and we're driving and we're going down. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>we we had already kind of we had been jostling

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<v Speaker 1>then I was finally like, all right, these guys really

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<v Speaker 1>are hustling. They need to get where they're going, so

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<v Speaker 1>I let them pass on this lane highway. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just us now. We're you know, once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every probably ten minutes or so, you might

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<v Speaker 1>see a car come in the opposite direction. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of alone out here. We're driving outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>cars that got off the boat that decided to take

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<v Speaker 1>one of the motels. You know, we're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only cars on the roads outside of the big trucks.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going and again, it's it's about one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning at this point, and my son says, hey, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see that? And I was like no, and

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<v Speaker 1>so but then I look in the rear view mirror. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I look over to my right. My wife's still sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>so I see her, and I see in the rear

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<v Speaker 1>view mirror, I see this creature. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of experience, like I know what a

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<v Speaker 1>bear looks like, I know what a black bear looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what animals look like. Spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time in woods in different places, and I see this

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<v Speaker 1>creature and I was like, okay, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>slightly bigger than a black bear. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on all fours. And now again I'm seeing this in

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<v Speaker 1>the rear view mirror. My son got a really good

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<v Speaker 1>look here, and I've seen this in the rearview. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and it's like it starts to stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it stands up from it was kind of on

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<v Speaker 1>all fours and then it slowly kind of stood up

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's you know, it's it's on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going about i'd say eighty kilometers an hour maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's about eighty you know, what is that? I think

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<v Speaker 1>about eighty miles an hour. Anyways, we're going pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you know, it's not not too fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the highway, but it stands up. So

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<v Speaker 1>as it's standing up, I'm like, oh my god, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is definitely not a bear. It's kind of slender,

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<v Speaker 1>so definitely, you know, it's it's kind of it's like again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like almost looking at a wolf and

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<v Speaker 1>a bear. Mixed and a person mixed because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's slender on the bottom and it kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's it looks very muscular. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if any of you have seen the Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 1>where Wolf it kind of it kind of had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that body, but then there was more

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<v Speaker 1>hair to it. It was just this one was more slender.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up seeing too, but I'll go into that later.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it stands up and it's it's kind of up.

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<v Speaker 1>It has like a you know, a certainly a face.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm watching this happen. I swear to god it

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<v Speaker 1>was slow motion because I'm watching as we just passed it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's in my rear view mirror, and it like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, objects in mirror a closer than they appear, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>And it stands up and it's it's black, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's black. It's you know, there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of gray to it, but it's mostly black. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>got the you know, it looks athletic. It's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an athletic dog. I don't know what to say. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a dog man, right, And so it stands

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<v Speaker 1>up and it looks and it's looking at our car.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly saw us. And you know, my son's got

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<v Speaker 1>his head to the door or the window and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like twisted his head around and he's looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and he's like, oh my god, like what is

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<v Speaker 1>this right? And it kind of had the glowing eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say, like okay, it's the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>aren't actually glowing, of course, but it had like yellowish

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<v Speaker 1>white kind of eyes and it was just there and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's looking at us. It definitely, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>making a itself known that it was there. Obviously, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start chasing us or anything. It was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, hey, like I'm wanting you to see

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<v Speaker 1>me again. It was It was weird because I was like,

415
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<v Speaker 1>you know, at first thought, I'm thinking a black bear,

416
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<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, why is this thing standing up? And

417
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<v Speaker 1>then it's like, okay, this certainly isn't a black bear.

418
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's in the ravine, right, so it's down kind

419
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of we're on a two lane right now, and so

420
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of space between it and the

421
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>tree line and it's kind of down and it had

422
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.039
<v Speaker 1>just kind of walked down and then it stands up

423
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, okay, that's again, that's not a person,

424
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not a bear. That's something I haven't seen where,

425
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Explore mirrors aren't like too small at all.

426
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I saw it pretty well in the mirror, and

427
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, that's weird. And my son's getting a

428
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>real nice look at this thing, and he's like, wow,

429
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a were wolf right, And obviously not quite but

430
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>today it's like, oh, Dad, is that a were wolf?

431
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Right?

432
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it? You know? And I'm like I didn't know

433
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.839
<v Speaker 1>what to make of it in that moment. So we're

434
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 1>we're still driving here, okay, me and my son now

435
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>begin to talk about what we just saw. We're past

436
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it by now. It wasn't like a terrifying experience. It

437
00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:59.519
<v Speaker 1>was something I was just kind of in shock. You know.

438
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, if a whale comes up out

439
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>of the water and you see a whale, you'll be like,

440
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 1>oh wow. But you know, if like a spaceship comes

441
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the water, you'd be like, oh wow, like

442
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.599
<v Speaker 1>what am I seeing here? So it's kind of that

443
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling like something different, something outside of the normal. I

444
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>could see it really well, even in the rear view,

445
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>because it was so you know, again, if it's like

446
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 1>a three quarter moon or something. It certainly it was

447
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the the moon was out enough and that we were

448
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>able to see this thing well enough that I wouldn't say, okay,

449
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wouldn't have passed it off as something else. Now,

450
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>what made me truly believe wasn't again this was It

451
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>was the next experience that I'll go into after. But

452
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 1>so me and my son are talking about it, you know,

453
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 1>we're like, what what just happened? He's like, Dad, did

454
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you see that? I was like, yeah, like holy cow.

455
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Now we kind of wake my wife up a little

456
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>bit and like, mom, did you see that? It's like no, what?

457
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Like what? What was just like an animal, you know,

458
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 1>like a dog man thing? It was like werewolf. It

459
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>was like no, like and anyway, she went back to sleep,

460
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so she wasn't really shoot. You know, everyone's tired. It

461
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 1>was a long trip from our house. It's about twenty

462
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>two hours, so you know, we we had had we

463
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>had already gone, we had slept overnight somewhere, so we're

464
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about ten hours into the next day journey at this

465
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>stage or you know, closer to twelve probably hours. So

466
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>she's tired. Certainly I was tired too, but I was

467
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 1>hopped up on energy drinks. You know, I got to

468
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>drive my family safely, so I'm not I'm not letting myself.

469
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I've had enough experience through delivery driving that you know,

470
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to uh not be awake, right I had.

471
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I even at points I cracked the window and I

472
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>was put my hand out and I, you know, I

473
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just keep myself awake because you know, I got to

474
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>get my family there safely. So know, now we're reved up.

475
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Me and my son are like, holy cow. So we

476
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>start talking back and forth. We're like, you know, what

477
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 1>did you see? You know, wow, that was crazy. He's

478
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like like, Dad, I just you know, we just saw

479
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>this and and it was a kind of a cool

480
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 1>experience because again we had never experienced anything like that before.

481
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And you and I were able to talk about it

482
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, again it was it was like it

483
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was very athletic. It was black hair, it had kind

484
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>of glowing like eyes. I call them glowing because they're

485
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>just bright. You know. It was like it was hard

486
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to mistake, very wolf like snout. There were Again, there's

487
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>parts of it. You know, if I think of a

488
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a van helsing where wolf, it wasn't like that.

489
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like huge bulky upper. It was you know,

490
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a bigger upper, but it wasn't it wasn't

491
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it was it was it was very slender, but you know, muscular.

492
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's there's tribes in different countries in the

493
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>world that you know, run a long way. And you know,

494
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 1>if you know, if I compare a bodybuilder to one

495
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of those people from the tribes, it would be more

496
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like the person from the tribe because they're just super

497
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 1>athletic people, right, very slender, able to go long distances.

498
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>This kind of body was built for that, certainly able

499
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to maneuver long distances. So we keep going here, right,

500
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about this, and i'd say twenty minutes pass,

501
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to calm down again. My son's like, hey,

502
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll talk about this again tomorrow, and so he,

503
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, starts to kind of drift off again. It's

504
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's about one point thirty at this point in the

505
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 1>in the night, or I guess in the early early morning.

506
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And so why I keep driving. You know, the kids

507
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>are all asleep, and next thing you know, in the

508
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>we're in a very similar place, but it's you know,

509
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>quite a ways up the road now again even closer

510
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 1>to the Stephenville and we're on the TransCanada Highway. So

511
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.839
<v Speaker 1>we're going i'd say it's about three lanes. At this point.

512
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Some trucks had passed us again some you know, there

513
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>was kind of one on me for quite a while there,

514
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was so it was i would say it

515
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>was the truck itself had just kind of gone gone

516
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 1>far off ahead, maybe about four hundred meters ahead of me,

517
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 1>and so it was way up there, but you know,

518
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was going and so then again I'm kind of

519
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 1>here alone. We're about to go around a bend kind

520
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So there's lots of like kind of twists

521
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and turns, but a lot of you know, there's some hills,

522
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we're going up and down different places, but in this

523
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>part we were coming to kind of a left handed

524
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 1>turn and again on the side, we were fortunate at

525
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>this point. I'm kind of glad in some ways because

526
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>if it was right on the tree line, you know,

527
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>ten meters from my car, be you know, feeling a

528
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit different, but it was again on the right

529
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>side of the vehicle and I'm looking out ahead, and

530
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>on the right side there's again a kind of a clearing.

531
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 1>There's no there's not really a ravine this time, but

532
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>there is a small hill, just a small little hill

533
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like a rounded hill, so it's not like a

534
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>flat like drop off. It's just like a small little

535
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 1>like incline. And then there was also on the right

536
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 1>hand side, there was before that hill there was kind

537
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>of just an open area, so the hill kind of

538
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>went around, and then there's a bunch of trees kind

539
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of you know, on that hill. And then on the

540
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 1>right side there's an open field and then some like

541
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a little pond like it's just a couple of little

542
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 1>like pond type things. And then there's like space here.

543
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 1>So this is where there's kind of open space. And

544
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>again there's kind of some little there's a little we

545
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 1>call them mountains, but there are nothing like the rockies,

546
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 1>but they're certain like there's some big ones of course,

547
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>so you know, you're kind of going through, which is

548
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>also another beautiful part of Newfoundland. Uh you're going through,

549
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and so in the in the distance there's more trees,

550
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, but you know, right on this little mound,

551
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 1>as it's going up to the tree line, don't I

552
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 1>look out the front window, of the front right window,

553
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and I see another dog man. And this was the

554
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>first time. And my son's asleep at this point. I

555
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>wake him up right after, but my a, as I'm

556
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 1>sitting here, I see this dog man, and at this

557
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>point I know, I'm like, this is a thing. This

558
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>is definitely what we saw earlier. It's not the same one.

559
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's actually got a little bit of white

560
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>on it. And it is black again, but it's got

561
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 1>some white. It's not gray and black like the other one.

562
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 1>It's more, it's more it's it's a different one. And

563
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>another reason why I knew it was a different one

564
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 1>is because it was standing. It's funny because it was

565
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>almost like there's a scene in Underworld where I think

566
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth one, if any of you watch Underwall,

567
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 1>you must like like wear wolf movies, But there's a

568
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>scene in that where the wolves. It wasn't the one

569
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>with Kate Beck and Sales one right after it's like

570
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the prequel and they kind of slink back into the

571
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>forest like they they move back even in the first one,

572
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a shot of after Selene gets the

573
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>guy Victor, the wolves kind of slink back into the shadows. Well,

574
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of how it felt. It was like

575
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 1>right on the shadow line. It's standing right beside these trees,

576
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 1>right between them. It's very at this point, it's very

577
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>much making itself known to me. And it is different

578
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>than the other one. It looks more or it has

579
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>more of an energy of one of like the leaders,

580
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if you will, of seemingly a clan of these things.

581
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's bulkier up top. It's not as slender

582
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 1>as the other one. Uh. If if I was to

583
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>describe them, the other one would be more like a scout,

584
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and this one's kind of like more of like a

585
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. It definitely had the energy of like I'm

586
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in charge and I'm making myself known to you. So

587
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>it's there and it's sitting or sorry, it's not sitting,

588
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it's standing up, and and I'm looking at this thing

589
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and we kind of lock eyes right again. It had

590
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>This one had actually as funny, this one had less

591
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 1>yellow eyes than the other one. It had more white

592
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>white eyes almost. It was weird because it's almost like

593
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 1>there's I don't know how to describe this, because there's

594
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>almost like a humanness to it. But again, it's you know,

595
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely a dog man, but it was it

596
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was very much like its eyes were able to speak

597
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, if that makes any sense. It was able

598
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 1>to like communicate to me through it through its gaze.

599
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's funny. Right now, I have a

600
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>poster in my room, I mean, my my basement office

601
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 1>right now, and we have a I have a beautiful

602
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 1>wolf and it's just it's in this like stare and

603
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of staring at me and that and

604
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because I never thought of this. This is

605
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 1>exactly how that that a dog man looked at me.

606
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And on the poster says in wildness is the preservation

607
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of the world. And in this moment, when I'm looking

608
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>at this dog man, I'm getting this sense.

609
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Of I, you know, we're aware of you, we're here,

610
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>we're looking at you, and and uh uh yeah, so

611
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 3>it was there.

612
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 1>It's it's bigger, it's bulkier up top, it's more got

613
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of more of that almost like a bodybuilder look.

614
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 1>But again, it's very it's still slender. It's like it's

615
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 1>still very athletic. It's nothing like you know, it's not

616
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 1>like a huge, bulking beast like you know, like Eddie

617
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Hall or anything like that. It's it's just it's a

618
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit bulk. You're up top certainly again has that

619
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 1>very commanding presence, and it's looking at me and it's

620
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>got it. You know. I don't know how to describe it,

621
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's it's not got its hand us on

622
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a hips or anything. It's not one of those funny memes.

623
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just like it's just there looking at me. But

624
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 1>it's looking at me intensely, right, It's it's looking at

625
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 1>me with just a feeling of I'm witnessing you, I'm

626
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>watching you, I'm we're aware of you. And I had

627
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>never experienced anything like this. Again, I had just probably

628
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 1>i'd say about six months prior to this experience, I

629
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 1>had experienced my first ghost experience, and so this was

630
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that happening again in a way, because

631
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it was very much like, Okay, this is something I

632
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have to get used to. These are real things that

633
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>are out here. Again. I didn't even think dog men

634
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Like I was. I was, you know,

635
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously in that in that moment, I wasn't thinking dogmen.

636
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 1>But then immediately after I'm like, oh, yeah, that was

637
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 1>a that was a dog man. That's what that was.

638
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But what was interesting is because I had never I

639
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had after this experience, I looked up

640
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and I looked and I said, you know, are there

641
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>really dog men in this uh in this area? And

642
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think there was. For the longest time,

643
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think there really are dog

644
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 1>men in Newfoundland. But I guess, like anything, you know,

645
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 1>if if there's packs of them, they they move around.

646
00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Certainly it's an island that's locked off from regular land,

647
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 1>so there there has to be some sort of I

648
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're not the type of like we're going

649
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to stow away on a ship and get here. This

650
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 1>is very much like I I do believe that cryptids

651
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 1>have access to other uh you know, kind of dimensions

652
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>if you will, or you know, able to kind of

653
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>go in and between that, because there'd be no reason,

654
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't. I don't think they were always

655
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 1>on the island. If you will, I think that you know,

656
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they're there it's kind of more of a newer thing,

657
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 1>or maybe you know, maybe there has been. And that's

658
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the actually reasons why I'm on this show

659
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>right now, is because I had looked up, you know,

660
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 1>and I found a gentleman that was on the island

661
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that had you know, Seen three and he was on

662
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>your show. And so that's that's why I even contacted you,

663
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's like, Okay, somebody else had this

664
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.639
<v Speaker 1>experience on the island. Uh, this must be a thing.

665
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>They must be here, whether they were here before or

666
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole time, or if you know, it's

667
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>more of a newer occurrence. It certainly they're there now

668
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>looking at this thing and seeing it. It's pretty you know,

669
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty tall, certainly bigger than me. I'm about

670
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 1>five eleven and a half, you know who call six feet.

671
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess it seemed it seemed like it was bigger

672
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>than me. If I was outside and not in a

673
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>car driving at you know, sixty seventy miles an hour,

674
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that I would have felt a little bit

675
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 1>more intimidated, especially at you know, one p thirty two am.

676
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But in this moment, I didn't feel that sense of intimidation.

677
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I felt like more of like a reverence almost for

678
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>these creatures. Again, I know a lot of people have

679
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of different stories, but this is just

680
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the way I felt in that moment. Because for me,

681
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 1>with some of the work I do, I'm a spiritual

682
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>life coach. On the side, I'm also a just an entrepreneur, right,

683
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>so do I do? Lots of I have businesses, practical

684
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>businesses too, So again I have to kind of be

685
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 1>able to merge both the worlds. But in this I

686
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like a sense I'd like to have one

687
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>or two. I'd like to have two confirmations of something

688
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and so if they are connected to that somehow. This

689
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>was certainly the second confirmation for me that I needed

690
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to be like, Wow, Okay, this is something, what is

691
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 1>this about? What is this moment for? And again, if

692
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I was outside at you know, two in the morning,

693
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 1>I certainly probably would have been a little scared. My

694
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>son probably would have been a little scared. You know,

695
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>when there's a being that you know could mess you up,

696
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's sasquatch or anything. You know, even

697
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if even if you're just around somebody that has a

698
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 1>sword or something you know you're going to feel a

699
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>sense of intimidation because you don't know somebody's or anything's intentions.

700
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel a sense of like fear from the intentions. Again,

701
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm very good at reading people either, even if they're

702
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>in the room with me. I you know, I like

703
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>people or I don't, just based on their energy. Sometimes

704
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, but most of the times I'm pretty spot on.

705
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 1>And so this wasn't that at all, Like I didn't

706
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 1>feel that, but it was definitely like this is our

707
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>land situations. It would almost be like if you were

708
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, Christopher Columbus coming across or one

709
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>of the vikings coming around you see a bunch of

710
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 1>natives standing on the side with weapons and they're like

711
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't know, and you don't know. That's kind of

712
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>how it felt. In a way. It's like we're just

713
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>in each other's world, in each other's lane, and we're

714
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>knowledging each other, and so it's like, Okay, what is this?

715
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of how it felt. But again,

716
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 1>if I was outside with the thing, I may have

717
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>felt a lot more intimidated from the experience. But yeah,

718
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd say again, the moon's going again, it felt like

719
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 1>time was slow. I was able to really pick up

720
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 1>on the features, kind of like the claw like hands.

721
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because the feet are very much more like

722
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like kind of like it's up on its back legs.

723
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very much like a dog dog legs. And then

724
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>you go up the body. Now I didn't notice any

725
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>tail or anything like that. Maybe I wasn't looking, but

726
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice like massive, you know, like a tail

727
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But as we're going up its features,

728
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 1>it's very athletic, you know. I did see some you know,

729
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 1>just slenderness in there, and then the upper body was

730
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 1>very bulky. But then hand the hands interesting because they're

731
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>not you know, they're not human hands, and they're they're

732
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>they're like dog feet, but they're they're like more I

733
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to describe it. I guess it's more

734
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>like they're they're almost it's almost like they're able to

735
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 1>use them in a way that you know, if if

736
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 1>a dog was standing up on a hind legs, it

737
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 1>can't use its feet right, the feet just kind of

738
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 1>flop down and it's other unusable. For for whatever reason,

739
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>this dog man or then the other one even too,

740
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>seemed like it had some ability to maybe utilize its

741
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 1>hands in other ways. And that's I guess why they're uh,

742
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what's what's the word not bipedal, because that's too when

743
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 1>they're able to go on stand up on their back

744
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 1>legs and walk, or on all fours and walk, So

745
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>there certainly has to be some ability there to do both. Uh.

746
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 1>But they were definitely connected to each other. Again, from

747
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>my experience, when I have anything happening in pairs like that,

748
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like a confirmation for me that they were

749
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to show themselves, you know, because if it had

750
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>just been the first experience and just for you know,

751
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>primarily for my son, and like when I seen it

752
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 1>in the rear view, it's like, okay, that's something I

753
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, turn my head a little bit

754
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and I see it. It's like, okay, that's something, you know,

755
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I might be able to chalk that up to this

756
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is just a random event. But in this experience, it

757
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 1>was a very much a confirmation for me that there

758
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 1>were two and that they were trying to reveal themselves

759
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to me. And then after that I didn't wake my

760
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.159
<v Speaker 1>wife up at this point, it's again very late but

761
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I woke my son up, like I saw another one.

762
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw another one, buddy. He's like, no way, no way, Dad,

763
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. He's like, what did it look like? And

764
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 1>so I'm telling him, and then you know, we're we're

765
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 1>just wrapped up at this point because it was it

766
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a cool experience, especially if you're not

767
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.159
<v Speaker 1>afraid of it. In that moment. You know, I'm walking outside.

768
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 1>It has no way to jump on me and eat

769
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>me or anything like that. But yeah, so I'm just

770
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.199
<v Speaker 1>telling him, and then we kind of got to We

771
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 1>kept driving, and I then start to tune in from

772
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual perspective on the whole thing, and yeah, so

773
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we get there and that was kind of the main

774
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>encounterpoints for me. But again, it felt like time was slow,

775
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 1>so I was able to like process it much quicker,

776
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>if you will. And it felt like I was able

777
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to look at him for you know, forty seconds maybe

778
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 1>almost like it felt like I was able to watch

779
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>him for almost a minute. And I'm sure that it

780
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 1>was only like a quick five, you know, ten seconds

781
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>that I saw because as we approached, he's standing there

782
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>making himself known because he moves out of the tree

783
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 1>line and then he kind of moves back into the

784
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 1>tree line as we're passing. So it was very much

785
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just a very cool and unique encounter and that was

786
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>confirmation for me. And that was just me that saw

787
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that one. So I knew at that point like what

788
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 1>we had seen earlier was certainly accurate and true, because again,

789
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to just believe my eyes all the

790
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.039
<v Speaker 1>time or believe my feelings all the time. It's like, okay,

791
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I need confirmation, and that was definitely in it. So, yeah,

792
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that was our experience from that perspective.

793
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Isn't life exciting?

794
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh so very much?

795
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 2>When you have experiences like what you did, it definitely

796
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.719
<v Speaker 2>does ref things up. You said they looked like a

797
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>cross between a bear and a wolf. Did their heads

798
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 2>look more beer alike or wolf like?

799
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 1>For me? Like, they looked definitely more wolf like. I

800
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 1>think the bear reference where it's like a cross between

801
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a bear, a wolf, and a man is more like

802
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they had kind of like almost you know how sometimes

803
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 1>wolf for isn't like as thick this this fur on,

804
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>especially the second one, seemed a lot thicker and the

805
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>body like if it again, I know what a black

806
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>bear looks like. I know it's late at night, but

807
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm already revved up at this point. I'm totally in

808
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the zone, just like feeling high on life and enjoying,

809
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, the drive, and being safe because I here's

810
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. When you're driving at night, especially in Newfoundland,

811
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>especially in Newfouland, there are moose that will come out

812
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere and run in front of your car, and

813
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>your whole family's dead, and we don't want that. So

814
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much on high alert, not in a bad sense,

815
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>just I'm focused, right, I'm there. So I was able

816
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to look and this, Yeah, it just had a bulk.

817
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 1>You're more of a black bear like upper body, I'd say,

818
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and then like kind of like a wolf like lower body.

819
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Again the pause were more wolf like. It would just

820
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think where the bear cross comes in is just

821
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>more of that. It certainly had more fur on this

822
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 1>one on the top and just more of that thickness

823
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 1>to it. So it just again it was a little

824
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>bit different, but very much in the same kind of mindset,

825
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 1>but very much a wolf like, you know, canine type head.

826
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>There are places in Kentucky where the locals call the

827
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 2>dog men beer rellas because they kind of look like

828
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>a cross between a gorilla and a bear. Well, there

829
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.280
<v Speaker 2>are other places where people call them beer wolves because

830
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 2>of the look that they have, where they look somewhat

831
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>like a bear and they look somewhat like a wolf.

832
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's ironic that they're in Newfoundland. The

833
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 2>two that you saw had that look that they did.

834
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, again, that's how I would describe them. Certainly. Again,

835
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the one was a little bit more slender, but they

836
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 1>just it's funny because it's when you're when you're thinking

837
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 1>about I've seen a lot of were wolf movies and

838
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things over time, and it wasn't like

839
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a classic were wolf. Again, you have Underworld were wolves,

840
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you have Van Helsing were wolves, you have one of

841
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>my favorites, dog Soldier wear wolves, and you know ginger snaps.

842
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 1>You have all these different types of creatures and this

843
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of looked like a cross between some of them,

844
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like bear like and also but then sorry,

845
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>they also the the Harry Potter were wolf. You know,

846
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's kind of a cross between that and

847
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 1>a classic like were wolves. So yeah, very much like

848
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>there was some bear features there too that you could

849
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 1>argue that were there but again, these are dog mens,

850
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>so it's a I think maybe like anything, you know,

851
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it's and maybe this is something for the listeners

852
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and something for other people that have had these experiences.

853
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, how deer can be different in every different regions.

854
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's kind of that going on as well, Like

855
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 1>there might be different kind of dogmen in different regions.

856
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's the case with a lot of cryptids,

857
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 1>like they just you know, there's different types of orcas,

858
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>there's different types of everything, So I'm sure that that

859
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 1>might be a thing.

860
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 2>All that definitely does hold true with dog men. To

861
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 2>seeing the first one leave your son more excited or fearful.

862
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>For my son, I think he like he takes after

863
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>his dad, So I think it was like, WHOA, what

864
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>did I just see? It was, you know, kind of

865
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 1>because we're in a car going pretty quickly, and he

866
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was he was able to get a really good look,

867
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 1>but it was like just something out of the ordinary, right,

868
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.639
<v Speaker 1>and so he was just more in shock and awe.

869
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Definitely not fearful, because this is again part of things

870
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that I'm into. Anyway. I never had these experiences before,

871
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>but I had been over the last three years, really

872
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>diving into the more spiritual side of things. This was

873
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>for him and something where he wasn't afraid at all,

874
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and neither was I. But again, that may be different.

875
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, of course, if you're out in the woods

876
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>by yourself and you feel like something is watching you,

877
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 1>If you feel like it felt like something was watching me,

878
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's what made me look up in the first place,

879
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, I'm about to have another one of

880
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>these experiences. And yeah, lo and behold you look up

881
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and I see this thing in the near the tree

882
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 1>line for the second time. So my son, my son,

883
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 1>definitely it wasn't a place of fear, but very much

884
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>would have been different. I'm sure if we were outside

885
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 1>with a thing.

886
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sure it would have too. Yeah. That changes everything,

887
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and it goes with us saying I'm so glad he's

888
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>handling all this so well. Speaking of him, was he

889
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.039
<v Speaker 2>frustrated about not seeing the second one?

890
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, he was. He was pointed, excuse me, he

891
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>was very much disappointed in not seeing the second one

892
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 1>like I had. It was. Yeah, I think that he would.

893
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.880
<v Speaker 1>He would have liked to see it. He's always trying

894
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 1>to to have those experiences. You know, not that we

895
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 1>were ever looking to have a dog man experience, but

896
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 1>he likes the stuff as well, and I'm sure he

897
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 1>would have liked to see the second one, especially after

898
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I described it to him.

899
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I figured it would be that way, but I thought

900
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>i'd ask you to be thorough about that. Do you

901
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>think you could have stopped the Explorer and had time

902
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 2>to wake him up so we could have seen that

903
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 2>second one instead of passing by?

904
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I think because it was so late at night. So well,

905
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going through my mind, right because as

906
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 1>we're driving, you know, I've got to get to to

907
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, get us safely, and we've got probably another

908
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.079
<v Speaker 1>two hours to our destination at this point, because we

909
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 1>weren't just going to Cornerbrook. We were going out to

910
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the to the cabin, which was but another fifty minutes out.

911
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 1>So I it was already super super late. We already

912
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>had such a long day. And again from a perspective

913
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of I didn't feel the need to stop, you know,

914
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I should slam out my brakes. Holy cow,

915
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 1>what is this? Because I felt like I was got

916
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 1>a sense of the thing just through, just through like

917
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 1>an intuition. If you will. And so it wasn't. It

918
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like this is a moment to stop. And

919
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds crazy because you're like, oh my god,

920
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like you just saw a dog man. You know, for

921
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 1>anybody else listening, I'm so sorry that I didn't do it.

922
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's it's I've got my four year

923
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 1>old daughter, you know, my seven year old son. Everyone's sleeping,

924
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>my wife's sleeping. Uh. You know, it's kind of dangerous

925
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 1>to stop. Also on the highway at night with all

926
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>these big transports kind of coming through. There's moose everywhere,

927
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it didn't feel like the responsible dad

928
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, because let's say, you know, I got

929
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>even thinking. You know, it's like if this is what

930
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it is, if this truly is a dog man,

931
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and and now I'm going to stop. It's not very

932
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>far from the road, right, and they can move quick,

933
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they they're not slow by any means. And

934
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 1>so if I'm looking at this thing again, it's I'm

935
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>coming up on I see out the right hand side

936
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of my front window. So as I'm driving closer, I'm

937
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>going you know, again, about one hundred kilometers an hour,

938
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe ninety I definitely slowed down. I one hundred percent

939
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.119
<v Speaker 1>slowed down now that I'm thinking about it, But I didn't.

940
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.480
<v Speaker 1>There was no chance I was going to be stopping

941
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 1>to to to see this thing, because again, if there

942
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 1>is some sort of threat to it, I'm not going

943
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to put my family in that sort of danger. Right

944
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And and even though I like to think that, you know,

945
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I was having an intuition with it and it was

946
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 1>there for for me and that, you know, my family,

947
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>then it's I just I'm not gonna I'm just not

948
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 1>going to do that. If it was just me in

949
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the car, or even me and my wife, yeah, I

950
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>probably would have. Honestly, It's like I'd love to go

951
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 1>h tornado watching, you know, to you know, be one

952
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 1>of those people and just see that. I like to

953
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>have those cool new experiences. I love that stuff, but

954
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to put my kids in harm's way

955
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 1>by any means. So that wasn't even thought honestly for me.

956
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's totally understandable. When you have all the considerations

957
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that you were dealing with, I can totally understand why

958
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you didn't stop. You said that the second one wasn't

959
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 2>all that far from the road. How close would you

960
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 2>say it was to the road at the closest point.

961
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at the close point it stays so okay. So again,

962
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 1>as we're going up, there's kind of a clearing and

963
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>then the little like little kind of a hill, like

964
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 1>a small hill. I'd say, if you're to stand next

965
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to this little hill, is a nice rounded hill. It

966
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 1>would be about I don't know, six feet tall. It's

967
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>not a huge hill, you know, maybe maybe eight feet tall.

968
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Not even a huge hill. It's like something you easily

969
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>run up, right, It's it's it's like, you know, something

970
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you'd take your four year old on on a sled

971
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and you did go up and down a million times, right,

972
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's nothing crazy. And then on on the

973
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>on the side with it was by the trees. So

974
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>right there, right at the top of the hill is

975
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the little the trees. You know, it's kind of the

976
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 1>trees kind of followed around and the hills kind of

977
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a little i want to say, like

978
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 1>a half circle and then kind of goes back off

979
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>into like the back trees and stuff. So as you're

980
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like in an if you're to put

981
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 1>your hand your left hand on this like to your

982
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>right side, and you put your thumb out in a

983
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 1>ninety degree angle. That's kind of what it looked like, right,

984
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 1>And as you put your hand on an angle, there's

985
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.559
<v Speaker 1>like a little hill up and then there's trees once

986
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you get to your finger point. And if you're to

987
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>draw a line with your index finger from your other

988
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>index finger and you follow the pattern in your hand

989
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and your and follow it down through to your thumb,

990
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that would be like the incline and then the way

991
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 1>the trees kind of went on the top of the hill.

992
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's kind of if you're again follow with

993
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>your finger, it's probably at your first knuckle where the wolf,

994
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, the dog man was standing. And so I'm

995
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 1>driving up to it. I see it at the right window. Again,

996
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it felt for me like it was more a minute.

997
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably driving. I slowed down a little bit, so

998
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably going about eighty kilometers an hour. Was that

999
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 1>sixty miles an hour? Maybe fifty miles an hour, whatever

1000
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it was, So we're going I would say, what are

1001
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>we dealing with? Feet here? I'd say it was about

1002
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty meters away, so maybe about what's meters to feet. No,

1003
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it's probably even close. Now, it's definitely even closer than that.

1004
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty close. It was pretty close to the road. Honestly,

1005
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you could if you're to put two cars between it,

1006
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I'd say about maybe five five cars, not long ways,

1007
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>short ways. If you're to just park cars from the

1008
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>road all the way to the tree line, it's probably

1009
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 1>like five or six cars lengths. So what you know,

1010
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to I know everybody's dealing with different measurements here,

1011
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>so I'm trying to just give a visual. Yeah, probably

1012
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.119
<v Speaker 1>about five or six car lengths to the little hill

1013
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and then the hill, this tiny, tiny little hill up

1014
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and then there there it is right there. So as

1015
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 1>we're as I'm going here, it's it's pretty close to

1016
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the road and we lock eyes. I'm in on this

1017
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>thing and I'm driving by, and it was so cool

1018
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.079
<v Speaker 1>because as I start to drive by, I'll never forget it,

1019
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like on the in the passenger window. I wish you

1020
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>know again, it's one of those moments I don't know

1021
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>if you can, I truly have a belief you can't

1022
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>sometimes actually pick these things up on camera like they're there,

1023
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>if there are dimensional beings or if they're you know,

1024
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 1>able to go between like sasquatch and all these other

1025
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>creatures that you know, are able to you know, become

1026
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.679
<v Speaker 1>invisible if you will, or phase in and out of

1027
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>dimensional living. I don't think that you can pick them

1028
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 1>up on camera. I think that's why a lot of

1029
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>people have troubles getting them. It would be like you

1030
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 1>were taking a picture out the window of like a

1031
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>dog man, right and right in my face there and

1032
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, my wife. It's hilarious because in my head, ye,

1033
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>there a picture. Uh. You know, my wife's got brown hair.

1034
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So she's she's rested against the you know, her head

1035
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.239
<v Speaker 1>against the side of the car, you know, closer to

1036
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the dog man. Uh. And she's got her legs kind

1037
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of up. Not always the safest position to drive in,

1038
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.639
<v Speaker 1>of course, because you know, you could hurt your legs

1039
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 1>or you know, break your legs. But anyways, looking out

1040
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>the window, so I'm seeing her laid down on their

1041
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 1>head in like a pillow. And then out the side

1042
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>window and again this is all happening in slow motion.

1043
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I see the dog man and it's like it's looking

1044
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 1>at me and we had locked eyes before it even

1045
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>got to this window. But it was like, ow, it's

1046
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:40.039
<v Speaker 1>a it's an image I will never forget. It's like

1047
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a dog man up my wife's head, and then the

1048
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>little hill and then the trees in the back and

1049
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:50.679
<v Speaker 1>the dog man just standing right there, and yeah, pretty honestly,

1050
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing experience for me. Again, I never thought i'd

1051
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 1>see something like this, so it was very very cool.

1052
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know it is you never expect to see

1053
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a dog me in until you do. And if your

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01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.960
<v Speaker 2>wife would have only known was right outside her window.

1055
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I think she would have been a little

1056
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.320
<v Speaker 1>u Yeah, I think it's probably a good thing she

1057
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't see. That's she may have had a lot different

1058
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:20.079
<v Speaker 1>feeling about it than I did.

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01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I bet she probably would have. Did it. Ever,

1060
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:26.159
<v Speaker 2>seem like anyone else on the highway might have seen

1061
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:27.559
<v Speaker 2>that second dog me in two?

1062
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 1>No, only because again the truck had gone past. And

1063
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like you know, if somebody see something, especially a truck

1064
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.199
<v Speaker 1>driver at night, you know, they see those they're prone

1065
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 1>to seeing, you know, their imagination and plays tricks on

1066
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 1>them at nighttime especially, you know, and sometimes it's not

1067
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.239
<v Speaker 1>even their imagination. Many times they actually do see many

1068
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 1>many things. I'm sure many of you truck drivers can relate,

1069
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's very important that they all so tune

1070
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that stuff out because they have to get where they

1071
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>need to go safely. So I don't think this, you know,

1072
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the truck and saw in front of

1073
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.119
<v Speaker 1>me saw saw this at all. Again, it was kind

1074
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of our It was already around the bend when I

1075
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>even got close to it, So I don't I can't

1076
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 1>imagine anybody else saw this. It would have been cool, obviously,

1077
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, but but no, it was just it was

1078
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 1>just me. And so that's why, you know, it's hard

1079
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to take, you know, one person's word for it. And

1080
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that's why again, a show like this where you know,

1081
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 1>we've all had these experiences, you know, and we've you know,

1082
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.159
<v Speaker 1>slightly different experiences here and there, but you know, we

1083
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 1>can all vouch to say, you know, I saw something

1084
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 1>that stood out, you know, stood out and it was

1085
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 1>completely different.

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01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, Brett, you might be the only person who saw

1087
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:51.320
<v Speaker 2>that second dog Man, but I believe you, I really do.

1088
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Now you told us about the bright moon that was

1089
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:58.760
<v Speaker 2>out that night, and it's a given that a lot

1090
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 2>of people listening to to night show are convinced that

1091
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.480
<v Speaker 2>what you saw were to wear wolves not dog men.

1092
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 2>What's your take on that. Do you think they were

1093
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 2>dog men or do you think they were were wolves?

1094
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And if they were were wolves, is that a good

1095
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:13.840
<v Speaker 2>thing or a bad.

1096
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Thing for me?

1097
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, listen, I love were wolves, I really do. I

1099
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.440
<v Speaker 1>love them like they're they're I'm very connected with the

1100
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 1>wolf in general. Actually I'm Mohawk Native. It's funny. I'm white,

1101
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'm Mohawk Native. I've got my status card and

1102
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm from the wolf clan, so I'm very connected with

1103
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the wolf. But if I was to think about these

1104
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 1>they they definitely felt more dog man uh and very

1105
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 1>much like they It's funny because I think were wolves

1106
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.599
<v Speaker 1>have a sort of a different energy or reading. If

1107
01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 1>if everything is made of energy, right, and and there's

1108
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>different energy readings for different creatures. This one definitely I've

1109
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.559
<v Speaker 1>spent time with wolf energy, and it was sort of

1110
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.079
<v Speaker 1>it was it was not wolf energy, it was more

1111
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely more dog man energy. If that makes

1112
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>even any sense to anybody, I hope it does. But

1113
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it very much felt like dog men. I don't think

1114
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:27.800
<v Speaker 1>it would have been a problem for me if it

1115
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:32.519
<v Speaker 1>was where wolf energy definitely different were wolves. It definitely

1116
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 1>would have been a different scenario in terms of probably

1117
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:41.800
<v Speaker 1>what they were after or what they wanted. I I just, yeah,

1118
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I would not have started searching for dog man encounters

1119
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>in Newfoundland if I didn't think this was a dogmen.

1120
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:54.039
<v Speaker 1>And I think that there's just there's just different creatures

1121
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and there's there's different things, and I just I just

1122
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 1>believe this was a dog man. Yeah, I don't know

1123
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 1>how to describe outside of that.

1124
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, that makes two of us. I'm pretty sure they

1125
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:07.159
<v Speaker 2>were dog men. It was clear that they wanted you

1126
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to see them. But what benefit do you think there

1127
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>was for you to see.

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01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Them that night?

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01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is where I'll have to kind of

1130
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>get into a little bit of my background, just so

1131
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>people have a little bit of context that that's.

1132
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay sure by all means.

1133
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I run a senior's moving business. We work

1134
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of seniors. We do, you know, I help,

1135
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hire caring people to help ensure you know,

1136
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 1>grandma gets where she is needs to go safely. We

1137
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:45.079
<v Speaker 1>move people into seniors' homes. If you don't know what

1138
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that is, it's a place where elderly people go and

1139
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:50.679
<v Speaker 1>live with other elderly people and get care and so

1140
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:54.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, we help people downsize. That's my day to day, okay.

1141
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 1>But I also am a spiritual life coach. So I

1142
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:04.519
<v Speaker 1>grew up in the in the Pentecostal Christian world, and

1143
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it never fully resonated with me. I asked a lot

1144
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 1>of questions I from from my perspective, I it was

1145
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 1>it was God or whatever you want to call it

1146
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:18.880
<v Speaker 1>has been so much more and so I felt like

1147
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:22.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that stuff limited to for for me personally, again,

1148
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much open to every religion. I think that

1149
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:29.119
<v Speaker 1>any sort of extremes for anything can can become a

1150
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.159
<v Speaker 1>bad thing. As you know, too much of anything becomes

1151
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:36.199
<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. But I think that for me from

1152
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual perspective, I kind of fell out of that

1153
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 1>for several years and then I had something in my

1154
01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:45.880
<v Speaker 1>business where my life sort of changed. And I won't

1155
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.760
<v Speaker 1>go into detail, but my life changed outside of control.

1156
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.679
<v Speaker 1>And I'm all about taking responsibility for our actions. And

1157
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 1>sometimes things just happen in life and you have to

1158
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.679
<v Speaker 1>decide how you're going to react to them, how it's

1159
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>going to change you, how it's going to affect you,

1160
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and I decided to change. You know, I had to

1161
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:10.079
<v Speaker 1>make some very tough decisions in my business to change

1162
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:14.400
<v Speaker 1>my business to be able to keep paying for my life. Again,

1163
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>things outside of my control happened and it forced me

1164
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to really have to reevaluate my life. And during that time,

1165
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 1>during what many people call the dark knight of the soul,

1166
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 1>I had to spend some time. And in that time

1167
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 1>of going through all this, I was alone as much

1168
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 1>as my wife was there. You know, I'm dealing with

1169
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this heavy, heavy stuff alone and that's

1170
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.079
<v Speaker 1>where spirit really came back for me, and I found

1171
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 1>this interest in, you know, getting connected with mediumship and

1172
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 1>starting to understand some of the questions I had a

1173
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. Again, some of you might not be

1174
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:53.840
<v Speaker 1>into that, and that's totally okay. Some of you might

1175
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.760
<v Speaker 1>see it as evil or any of the stuff. I

1176
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 1>truly believe that everything is of God and everything is

1177
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Creator and Source and any of that stuff.

1178
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And for me, it was always about helping people. Is

1179
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 1>always about like growing and learning in that moment. And

1180
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.320
<v Speaker 1>because of that work, because of the spiritual work that

1181
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I do, I create apps for people. I create apps

1182
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to help people work through shadow work because a lot

1183
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.319
<v Speaker 1>of what we create from a scientific perspective even is

1184
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.199
<v Speaker 1>we create the reality we want. So when we're talking internally,

1185
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, Okay, how is my internal reality? So

1186
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my belief system shaping the external environment. So if all

1187
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 1>things exist, if all outcomes exist, if all possibilities exist,

1188
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>those types of things, what you are believing, what you're thinking,

1189
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.279
<v Speaker 1>if you don't believe you can do it, you will

1190
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 1>never achieve it because you don't have a belief in

1191
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you can. And you hear all the high power athletes

1192
01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 1>and people talking about how you know, God was there

1193
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole step of the way. You know, how they

1194
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>believed in themselves, how they were going to get there,

1195
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's how we're right. And so you have to

1196
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>have that belief. And so for me, going through this experience,

1197
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot of healing things. I worked on myself.

1198
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I was able to kind of come up and say,

1199
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:13.600
<v Speaker 1>how do I want to consciously create the life. And

1200
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.760
<v Speaker 1>so that's why I began teaching people. I did readings,

1201
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I did I connected with people's loved ones, and I

1202
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:24.039
<v Speaker 1>was able to just really bring a sense of comfort

1203
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to people without lying to people. You know, with anything.

1204
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I've worked in the moving industry. There are scammers everywhere.

1205
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 1>They're absolutely out there. So it's about bringing integrity to it.

1206
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's about understanding that you know, of course they're going

1207
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.199
<v Speaker 1>to be fake psychics. Of course they're going to be

1208
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 1>fake mediums. Of course there's people just trying to that's

1209
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:43.960
<v Speaker 1>with anything. You're going to have that with anything, and

1210
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 1>it's about a tuning to yourself, an alignment and making

1211
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 1>sure that Okay, this person is you know, is authentic,

1212
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and even if the information isn't true, it's like they're

1213
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 1>doing it with their best intentions and with my readings,

1214
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 1>with my things. Even again that's not what I do

1215
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.159
<v Speaker 1>full time, but with I just I'm here to help

1216
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:08.439
<v Speaker 1>people and I'm here to help them consciously pick the

1217
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.159
<v Speaker 1>life they want. So I developed a whole system for

1218
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:15.760
<v Speaker 1>people to do that. Anyways, going back to this, I

1219
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:21.399
<v Speaker 1>needed to explain that because with this, I have been

1220
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:26.159
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of traumatic healing. So I've been doing

1221
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work around ancestry healing because again I

1222
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 1>have some Native, my wife has some Native, and there's

1223
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:37.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of there's a lot of options here in

1224
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the world where you know, we're leaning far right or

1225
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we're leaning far left. And again, I think any extremes

1226
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:46.159
<v Speaker 1>is where we get into trouble because we end up

1227
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:50.279
<v Speaker 1>so focused on these things. And I think that if

1228
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.079
<v Speaker 1>we can find some common ground with things, we can

1229
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.760
<v Speaker 1>certainly get to where we want to be. But part

1230
01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of that is healing. Part of that is acknowledging all

1231
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:02.279
<v Speaker 1>of this horrible stuff that's happened in all of our

1232
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 1>different pasts, through different cultures, of different backgrounds, through all

1233
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:09.079
<v Speaker 1>of the pain of history, if you will, through all

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01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the people, you know, all the we're all standing on

1235
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the shoulders of giants now for the world that we

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01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 1>live in. And it's our responsibility to make a better world.

1237
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.640
<v Speaker 1>And so why say all that is because doing this work,

1238
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 1>connecting with different energies and different you know, ghosts even

1239
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and different you know, different creatures. I've noticed that the

1240
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:32.800
<v Speaker 1>more I'm doing it, the more these experiences are happening.

1241
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I've had some alien experiences and things like that. Actually

1242
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:42.920
<v Speaker 1>because of this experience, I actually had and you know,

1243
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.439
<v Speaker 1>a UFO experience in this same trip, and it was

1244
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 1>all connected because I felt like going down when we

1245
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 1>were planning this trip, we're planning to fly and last minute,

1246
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 1>our flights were canceled. Okay, So like it was again,

1247
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much in synchronicities and things happening, and I

1248
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.359
<v Speaker 1>tried so hard to go with the flow. So our

1249
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 1>plight was canceled. Well, wouldn't you say, Okay, we can

1250
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:11.680
<v Speaker 1>either do two things here. We can say, you know what,

1251
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go later and we're only gonna have

1252
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.000
<v Speaker 1>way less time, or we can just get in the

1253
01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:18.560
<v Speaker 1>car and go. And so we decided, hey, you know what,

1254
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to get in the car and go.

1255
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And so out of that and guess what, we were

1256
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 1>able to get book a faery ticket. Well, we didn't

1257
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 1>think we'd book a fairy ticket because those things have

1258
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to take a long time to do. We ended up

1259
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:33.000
<v Speaker 1>literally eight hours later. We're packing our bags and we're

1260
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.800
<v Speaker 1>getting in the car now and we're driving down and

1261
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:37.840
<v Speaker 1>this again a twenty two hour drive, you know, twenty

1262
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>hour drive whatever it is. We're driving from Ontario all

1263
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the way up through Quebec and down through New Brunswick

1264
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and Nova Scotia and get a mount A ferry and

1265
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 1>going across the ocean to Newfoundland here. And through that

1266
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:57.039
<v Speaker 1>process there was some I believe that your energy wherever

1267
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you are, we all have energy, and your energy effect

1268
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:04.560
<v Speaker 1>x people in person. Your energy affects land, your energy

1269
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 1>affects everything around you. And the more you practice it,

1270
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:11.279
<v Speaker 1>like in meditation or anything, you're going to experience those

1271
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 1>things happening more and more and more. The more you

1272
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Speaker 1>connect with this stuff, again, you have to be open

1273
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.159
<v Speaker 1>because spirit isn't there to play games. It doesn't care

1274
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:21.720
<v Speaker 1>if you believe in it or not. It doesn't care

1275
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.600
<v Speaker 1>about any of that stuff. You get to choose the

1276
01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:27.920
<v Speaker 1>life that you want. All our purposes is to live

1277
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.800
<v Speaker 1>our most authentic life and follow the things that make

1278
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:34.640
<v Speaker 1>us feel happiness, feel joy, because our joy is what

1279
01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 1>actually is telling us that's what we need to be doing.

1280
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.279
<v Speaker 1>So if you get a lot of joy from painting,

1281
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what you should be doing. So as we're going

1282
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 1>on this trip, and even if it's in a limited

1283
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:47.119
<v Speaker 1>capacity and it's not what you do every single day

1284
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 1>because you have to pay bills, like we have to

1285
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 1>integrate all of that. But going through this experience, I

1286
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.880
<v Speaker 1>felt like part of this was, oh my god, I

1287
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 1>have to drive through the land, and by driving through

1288
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the land, my energy of the of the healing work

1289
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 1>that I've been doing has been pushing and pushing and

1290
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>pushing and affecting the land, and so part of what

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01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the dog men were there for. When

1292
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw those dogmen, I knew at that moment, especially

1293
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the second interaction, that was confirmation for me that the

1294
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>work I was doing. And it sounds so silly, it

1295
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds minuscule. I felt that I was supposed to do

1296
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a little session when I was in Newfoundland and try

1297
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to heal some of that past trauma of what my

1298
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>wife's ancestors had gone through, my wife's from the island

1299
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and some of the stuff. You know, there's a lot

1300
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of traumatic things, and part of doing that is working

1301
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 1>with the land. So I was I felt the intuition,

1302
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was told from spirit, gather seashells from the water,

1303
01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>from the water's edge, gather some rocks, bring it to

1304
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the land, and then make a little shrine. So I did,

1305
01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and then I was also post it. And then I

1306
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.079
<v Speaker 1>pick up some water and I sprinkled it all around

1307
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the land. And then I was able to also then

1308
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.199
<v Speaker 1>take stuff from the land and give it back to

1309
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the water. And I know it sounds, it sounds silly.

1310
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It might sound silly maybe, you know, I'm sure lots

1311
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:19.319
<v Speaker 1>of people are open, But for whatever reason, it felt

1312
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like the dog Man experience for me during that trip

1313
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was meant to clarify and remind me this is part

1314
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of why you're here. And we had a wonderful trip.

1315
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.439
<v Speaker 1>My wife and I ended up going and my kids

1316
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.880
<v Speaker 1>ended up going to this little island. It's very very

1317
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:41.479
<v Speaker 1>tiny off obviously off the big island. And she didn't

1318
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:46.479
<v Speaker 1>know this, but her family actually lived on this little island,

1319
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, eighty hundred years ago, and she had no idea.

1320
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:53.479
<v Speaker 1>And we ended up making it a nukshook there and

1321
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.079
<v Speaker 1>just playing with the clay and she's able to like

1322
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 1>be where her ancestors were and it was so cool.

1323
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And and again then we saw whales on the trip.

1324
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:07.119
<v Speaker 1>One of the evenings, a UFO flew over and kind

1325
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:08.920
<v Speaker 1>of hovered there for a little bit before and I

1326
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.359
<v Speaker 1>was out on the beach by myself, because I've been

1327
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.199
<v Speaker 1>doing this stuff more and I've been more open to it,

1328
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and I've been more attuned, and so it's like when

1329
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you're in that space, it's like, okay, if if if

1330
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you know a creature that's connect you know, you have

1331
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to remember all these cryptids, whether you know there's going

1332
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.119
<v Speaker 1>to be positive ones, there's going to be negative ones.

1333
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Many of them are guardians. Many of them are very

1334
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:36.000
<v Speaker 1>connected with with everything. They're like an animal, you know

1335
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 1>how an animal like. Obviously it's it's uh, kill and

1336
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.119
<v Speaker 1>be killed obviously too, but in the in the in

1337
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the context of connection with the land and environment, a

1338
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bird isn't thinking about, oh, what do I have to

1339
01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:52.199
<v Speaker 1>do with my life? It just does and so do

1340
01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 1>all these cryptids. So do all of the things. And

1341
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 1>that's how they're in harmony with their you know, they're

1342
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not taking more than they need. They're just living their lives.

1343
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.079
<v Speaker 1>And so as people, we've taken more than we need.

1344
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:06.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's not saying that, you know, growth and all

1345
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Is it possible, And it's not to say

1346
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.279
<v Speaker 1>that we can't you know, be one with nature if

1347
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:13.039
<v Speaker 1>you will, but you know, we have to consciously choose

1348
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.039
<v Speaker 1>those things. So when they when they connect with somebody

1349
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:20.159
<v Speaker 1>who's open to helping, because again, part of healing is

1350
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:22.319
<v Speaker 1>energy healing, and it's not just shadow work, it's not

1351
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 1>just this, it's like it's healing, you know, trom you know,

1352
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and why would why would taking shells from the beach

1353
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and sprinkling water. Why does that do? It's because it's

1354
01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a conscious choice. When you consciously choose to use your

1355
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>energy in a positive way, that changes it changes the

1356
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.000
<v Speaker 1>stagna energy. If you walk into a room with somebody

1357
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're negative and they're in a mood, as soon

1358
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 1>as you walk into the room, you're going to feel

1359
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that way, and vice versa. When you walk into a

1360
01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:54.079
<v Speaker 1>room with somebody positive, you get a feeling of uplifting.

1361
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:58.359
<v Speaker 1>So I think that the cryptids and all of it

1362
01:17:58.399 --> 01:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>were these experience is. Again, I know that you've had

1363
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:05.079
<v Speaker 1>a personal difference on this one, but I think these

1364
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it feels like at least we're starting to learn more

1365
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 1>about these interactions. And I don't think they're all negative.

1366
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that many of them are neutral. I think

1367
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that if you're having an experience, you may be more

1368
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:20.199
<v Speaker 1>open to it and you may be much more connected

1369
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:23.920
<v Speaker 1>than you think. And I don't necessarily think, you know, obviously,

1370
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure again there's been people that have been harmed

1371
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.560
<v Speaker 1>by these things, and you know that's a very very

1372
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>very small percentage of people. But I think that there's

1373
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a wake up call when you see something like this,

1374
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:41.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're feeling fear. I again, many times, I'm not

1375
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.840
<v Speaker 1>saying cryptids are are high vibrational, but there certainly feel

1376
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:51.239
<v Speaker 1>much much more in tune with that. But with aliens,

1377
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you're around somebody that's uplifting and you've

1378
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>got a lot to work on. If you see somebody

1379
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>again in the room with you and they're they're wealthy,

1380
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.399
<v Speaker 1>they're happy, they're all these things, you might get angry.

1381
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 1>You might have a sense of anger because you're jealous

1382
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>because of all these things, and so that's something within

1383
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you that you have to work on. So when you're

1384
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:12.680
<v Speaker 1>around aliens or around any of the stuff, a lot

1385
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>of times they bring up things within us that make

1386
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fears and resentments and angers, and so

1387
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that stuff comes to the surface. Because like a magnet,

1388
01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:28.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're vibrating really hard and you're not on the

1389
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 1>same wavelength as that vibration, it's going to cause disruption.

1390
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.279
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what happens in our systems when we

1391
01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:38.239
<v Speaker 1>haven't done that work. And so again, when they find,

1392
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, when they're connected with somebody or something that's

1393
01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:43.800
<v Speaker 1>more open to it, they are a lot more likely

1394
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to have a positive outcome and say, you know, we

1395
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>want you to do this, or you're you know this

1396
01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:53.399
<v Speaker 1>will help you know, this is an intentional because we

1397
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>are very much connected to reality in the sense of

1398
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 1>so when I'm sitting there and I'm consciously choosing, I'm

1399
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a physical being unlike cryptids. Cryptids I swear and this

1400
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is just maybe my interpretation, but they can phase in

1401
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and out of physical reality. And that's just what I've noticed,

1402
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's sasquatch or dog man or any of these things.

1403
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And some of them might have bad intentions, of course,

1404
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not. You know, everything exists, you know, just

1405
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's good and bad people, like all of that

1406
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:35.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff is absolutely true. But when a physical being connects

1407
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in it is much more powerful to the whole because

1408
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not as connected to the other side. So when

1409
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a physical being taking physical actions and from

1410
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual perspective, I think that that really helps. And

1411
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.279
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sorry that was a long winded thing. You

1412
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>can you know, you don't have to, you know, it

1413
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:58.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be what it is. But I truly

1414
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:02.159
<v Speaker 1>believe that that for me was confirmation that hey, I'm

1415
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:05.399
<v Speaker 1>here whether you know, just to bring joy, you know,

1416
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and we had a heck of a trip. It was

1417
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful trip. We you know, we had a great

1418
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>time with family and we just brought happiness back to

1419
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the land, like kids bring happiness to the world. So

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01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I just think kids are are very important, and it

1421
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was a very good experience and we just had a

1422
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of happiness on the trip.

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01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank goodness, you can look back on it and

1424
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.479
<v Speaker 2>see it is a good pair of experiences instead of

1425
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.000
<v Speaker 2>being haunted by them. And it sounds like your son

1426
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:37.399
<v Speaker 2>took that experience and scried as well when he saw

1427
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that first dog man. So as long as you can

1428
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:43.279
<v Speaker 2>say that, that's definitely a good thing. Well, I'll tell

1429
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you what, Brad. It's about time for us to get

1430
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:46.720
<v Speaker 2>out of here. But before we do, do you have

1431
01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 2>any clothes and comments you want to put out there

1432
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:49.079
<v Speaker 2>for us.

1433
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you for having me on.

1434
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that this, you know, help you know, was entertaining,

1435
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>but also you know, really connects with you and uh,

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01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>with anybody listening. I hope that, you know, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're not all bad. And I think that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good in the world. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's important that you know, sometimes even if an experience

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<v Speaker 1>might feel negative, that we really look at it and see,

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01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, what is it there for? And uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and again I had a it was a really cool

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<v Speaker 1>experience for me and my family, and I was I

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01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:35.079
<v Speaker 1>was glad to have it, and uh, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's super cool. And if this interest you, just keep

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<v Speaker 1>keep following it, you know. It's it's so fun to

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<v Speaker 1>think about the stuff and talk about the stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be open about it. So again, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much Vick for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're welcome. Glad to give you a platform. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a given. I love the way you think, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you never change. I really do. But having

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<v Speaker 2>said that, thanks again so much for your time, band.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do appreciate it. Then, have a great night.
