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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Brett Ford. Brett,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for being here. We appreciate your time. Brett,

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Please give us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I currently live in Ontario. My wife's family

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is all from Cornerbrook, Newfoundland. And yeah, I'm a business owner,

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I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a spiritual coach, so I do

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quite a few things. I've got three kids, and yeah,

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this adventure where my experience came in was last summer,

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in the summer twenty twenty five, and we were on

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a family trip. So that's yeah, that's where we'll start

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our off today.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the fact that you were on a family

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trip when you had that dog meaning encounter and it

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wasn't just some run to the mill place. It was

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in Newfoundland. Did that wind up ruining your vacation.

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Speaker 1: For us? No, it was actually Again, I know many

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people's experiences have been quite different. But for us, it

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was my son and I that saw these dogmen. And yeah,

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we were just driving, so I wasn't out and I

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didn't necessariyly feel you know, it's kind of something from

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my perspective, I was able just to kind of work

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through and it certainly didn't ruin our trip. No, not

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at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank goodness. We're in Newfoundland. If you can tell

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us did that encounter happen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm actually on the on a map right now,

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just so again I can try to describe it as

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best I can. So we came in via the port there.

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It's about six seven hour ferry ride, and we came

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in about Port of Baskus, So that's where one of

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the there's about two ferries. One goes to the west

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side of the island and one goes to the east.

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I think there may be more, but those are the

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two main ones. So because my wife's family's in Cornerbrook,

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you know, it's about a three hour drive from Port

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of Baskus, So we got in and the night night

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ship and yeah, we started driving up through Port of

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Bass through Saint Andrew South Branch all the way up.

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I believe it's the trans Canada Highway and or the

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Newfoundland part of it anyways, and then you know, I

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would say it happened before Stephenville. There's an exit for

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Stephenville that before you go to Glance and up to Cornerbrook. There,

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I would say it probably happened somewhere. Again, it was

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late at night, so between one and two am, I

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want to say, we were heading this way, so it

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kind of happened. Yeah, between North Branch and Stephenville is

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kind of the area that we saw the encounter.

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Speaker 2: So dog men are in a lot of different places,

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but Newfoundland that's not exactly on the top of the

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list of places i'd expect and eyewitness to see one.

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But like I said, they are all over so you

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really never know where you're going to see one. Before

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we go any further. Bred said that, I'm sure there

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are a lot of people listening who have no knowledge

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whatsoever of what Newfoundland's all about. Please give us an

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education on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Newfoundland is I believe the largest island. It's

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off the east coast up past Canada. So if you

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if you are from the US, you know you've got

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Maine and then it's New Brunswick and then kind of

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Nova Scotia and then Newfoundland. Now it is Newfoundland and Labrador.

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It is one province, so we call them provinces and

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not states. But yeah, so it's all one base. So

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it's basically just a large island. We have again another

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large island on the opposite side, Vancouver Island. But it's

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funny because like I didn't expect it, you know, and

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about one hundred years ago, I think there may have

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been wolves on the island, but there are no wolves

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on the island. There's you know, there's caribou, there's moose,

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there's black bear. I think there may be links. I'm

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not quite sure, but there's certainly no wolves that that

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I'm aware of, And you know, it's it's one of

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those things where it's just a beautiful area. There's certainly

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differences on the island, like the west side island tends

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to have more snow in the wintertime and the east

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side is a little bit more calm but very foggy.

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and it takes about six hours from corner Brook to

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Saint John's I think, so it's about nine ten hours

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across the whole island. If you're driving, you're you lined

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up through Gander and some other places. But it really

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is just a beautiful part of Canada. You know, there's

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rock faces, there's many lakes everywhere. There's it's it's surrounded

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by the ocean, so there you know, the ocean on

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all sides of it. You know, there's lots of fishing there,

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you know, that's one of the main industries, fishing and

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forestry and some of the other things. Lots of people there.

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of people end up traveling for work. They might go

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up to Alberta or wherever to get stuff. But it's

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certainly a place that is slowly developing. The two main

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areas I want to say are Corner Brook and Saint John's.

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the other, at least when you think of the island.

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What's actually interesting about Newfoundland is it was where certainly

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a bunch of Native people there. My wife's Native, I'm Native.

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We're both different, different clans and different tribes there. But

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the Vikings actually landed there and they mixed with the

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local people. So that was one of the first points

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that people ever came from with the Vikings land it

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on the island, and yeah, ended up mixing with people,

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so there's a lot of history there too. Also, the

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furthest point in uh in North America is on in

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on the island near Saint John's there. I believe it's

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called It's near There's it's the easternmost point of Canada,

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so it's Cape Spear and there's a really cool historic

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site there and and had some World War two military

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bases and things, and I know that also, I believe

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America has some some military operations there as well as

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Canada of course. So it's you know, it's it's it's

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very beautiful. There's lots of big pine trees, it's the

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land is ancient, it's rocky, it's it's you know, it's

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it's when you think of being out in the wilderness,

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that's like, that's probably one of the most ideal places

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to think of, whether it's that or Alaska. That's the

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one of the eastern sides of the island. It's it's

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very humbling because there's lots of souls that have been

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lost in the sea out there. There's lots of again

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ancient it's ancient land, right, It's it's lots of lots

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of people have been there through through life, and it's

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just certainly a cool place you ever get a chance

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to visit. Everybody's so kind and just wonderful, wonderful group

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of people. So, yeah, great place to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of biased. You described it as being a

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beautiful part of Canada. I don't think I've ever seen

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any part of Canada that I don't think is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly, certainly very you know, the whole country

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is beautiful. I mean, even America is beautiful. There's so

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there's so many different places across Canada and the US

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that well, and across the world, Like there's it's hilarious

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because there's little pockets, you know. It's like you can

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drive you know, anywhere from five five to ten hours

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and you're in a totally different place. Right, So it's

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pretty cool to see at least, you know, if you

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love the water and you love you know, the forest

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and you love being out in nature, that's a great

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place to be, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it'd be a great place to visit,

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So maybe someday I can make it there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: How much of you and your wife talked about the

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dog meme that you and your son saw, I.

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Speaker 1: Would say just a little bit, Like my wife is

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very practical, and again I think going between it all

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like she knows who I am, she married me, she

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loves me. But I think that when we're dealing with

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cryptids or any sort of entity that really isn't human

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and certainly not you know, classic animal, you kind of

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it's not that you you have to allow yourself to

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have a belief because if you don't have usually and

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I'll say this, because sometimes this stuff will pop up

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and you don't have a belief and then it's like, whoa,

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that's not what I was expecting. Whether you know, but

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certainly if you're open to experiences, they can they're more

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likely to happen. And sometimes that happens with you just subconsciously.

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you know, she kind of she didn't. It was nothing,

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no sweat off her back because it didn't affect her

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in a negative way. And you know, it wasn't really

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until after the experience that I was able to like

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think through it and let my son kind of talk

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through it and you know, just be open and about

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all of that stuff. And again, I'm much more open

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and receptive to everything from ghosts to cryptids. So it's

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it's not it's not far outside of my lane for

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what I do. So I would say that again, we

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just had had a brief talk. And you know, as

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long as as long as I'm not to going too

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far off the deep end in terms of allowing myself

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to live in that all the time, then it's easier

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to manage. I think a lot of times. And you know,

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saying this with with all the love I can, I

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think that many of us could certainly get trapped in

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a in a place where that becomes our only focus.

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and it's wonderful to have this because it is needed

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because people don't know where to take their experiences, whether

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and even the military, you know, whether it was aliens

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or not. You know, pilots have these experiences and they

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don't know where to take that stuff. And so it's

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so important that we have these channels, but we'd also

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don't want to get lost in it, you know, we

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don't want to let it. You know, if you've had

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a negative experience, or if you've had a neutral experience,

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and it certainly will change you, but you still have

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to like live in the world, you know, and it's hard.

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you can talk about things that with people that understand it,

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you can allow yourself to heal through your you know,

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potentially negative experience and also then process it and be like, Okay,

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have a balance and be able to look at things

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both logically and with emotion and with like an open

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mind and just kind of allow it all to be

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what it is. And like, I truly believe that each

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experience has something to teach us. And again, whether it's

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been a negative experience for some or a positive for others,

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or or a neutral experience. I don't think these dogmen

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are here for no reason. I think everything kind of

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has a place, and if they if you've been uh,

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you know, I don't want to say just fortunate, because again,

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some people have negative experiences, but if you've been, if

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you've had an experience, it just changes you. I think

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I think that most people would say that they've you know,

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when you see something for the first time. Again, I

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had a I had a ghost experience, and it was

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the very first time I actually physically saw one, and

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and and it just kind of is like, oh, Okay,

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there's more than meets the eye. It's like the crows

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that are beautiful birds in different different wavelengths and different spectrums, right,

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you know, when you're open to that stuff, there's there's

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just more to the world. And but you also have

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to you know, you have you have a very practical life.

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well as the practical and kind of find that nice

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sweet middle ground where you can honor the experiences and

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also live your life, because again, you can get lost

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in one of the other you know, you can get

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lost in a practical experience where you have no magic

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in your life, no, you know, and you're just being

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a drone on autopilot and just like, what's your life?

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Meant for, or you can go the opposite way and

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just live in imagination land and live in a place

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where you don't feel ever connected to anybody around you

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because you're just so gone. And so that's why I

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think integration is so important with any of this stuff.

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So yeah, again, my wife's a little bit different, but yeah,

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my son and I were able to talk through it

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and it was worked out well for us.

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I think one of the biggest reasons why you're still

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so well adjusted after having those experiences is the fact

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that you're so open minded. I think that's great. Yeah,

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people like you when you have an experience, it's like

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seeing a dog mean or seeing a ghost. When you

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have a mindset, when you have a paradigm like what

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you do, that just helps so much. It really does.

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If you've had a dog mean encounter that you need

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help dealing with, or if you'd like to be a

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guest on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com

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and submit a report. If you've had a Bigfoot sighting,

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we'll like to be a guest on one of my

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two big Foot podcasts. Please go to my Bigfoot sighting

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dot Com. All right, Brett, please tell us about your encounters. Now,

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give us server less detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again we were driving through you know, Port

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of Masks up through towards Stephenville and eventually Cornerbrook there

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and it was late at night. Again, when you get

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into Port of Bass is really kind of there's a

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there's an eerie sense there, right, because it's it's it's

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the first point on the on the island. It's it's

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the entry points. So the way start crashing against the rocks.

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It's all pitch black. So when we get off, it's

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like you don't know where to go at first, and

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so you're just kind of following the car in front

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of you because you're you're on a boat with a

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big you know, a bunch of cars. So it's nighttime.

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It's not like being in a big city. There's not

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lights everywhere, so you're really beholden to to you know,

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just nature and the cars in front of you. And

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so you kind of get on this one lane road

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and you're going there's this again Portbasses little town. So

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there's you know, some homes and there's gas station, but

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you have to fill up on gas because you might

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go an hour or two without seeing a gas station, right,

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so we you know, we made sure to get gas.

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this point, twelve o'clock at night, and and so we

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just start following the car in front of us, and yeah,

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we're going. It's it's pitch black. So if you can imagine,

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it's basically a two lane highway, but then there's a

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so every once in a while there's a passing lane

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that comes up and it kind of alternates, so on

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your side, when you're driving on the right side of

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the road, an extra lane will come in so then

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you can pass. Because there's big trucks, this is really

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the only lane for most of the trucks to get

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to bring stuff the goods around the entire island. So

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there's you know, there's transport trucks and whatnot, and they're hustling.

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They need to get to where they're going. But it's

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it's nighttime, so you know, once in a while you

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can pass somebody, or sometimes even the trucks are going

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so fast that you might let them pass you. So

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we're driving and you know, the lanes are alternating, and

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it's just late at night and we're just going and

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and we're fortunate, you know. I don't want to make

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it sound stereotypical, but it was kind of like a

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really bright night out for us. There was I don't

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think it was a full moon, you know, for you know,

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you know, a classic werewolf story or anything, but certainly

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the moon was bright enough that it was giving some

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good light off. And so when you're driving here, you

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have to think of all these big, beautiful trees. You

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have to think of all these big, gorgeous evergreen trees.

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And so when you have the two lane and it's

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three lanes a lot of the way because of that

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alternating lane, and so as you're going it kind of

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opens up. Sometimes it's a little bit narrower and the

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trees are right by the highway, and other times it

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kind of opens up and there's a little bit of

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a ravine on the edges of the side, and then

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there's kind of a tree line there. And again, because

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it was a bright night when we were out in

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those kind of more open areas, so there'll be trees,

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there'll be a bunch of trees, and then they'll be

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kind of open planes and then there'll be like little

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lakes and little things all around. And there was lots

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of reds and yellows and greens kind of colors all

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aroun around. You know.

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Speaker 3: It was a.

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Speaker 1: Summertime and we were going We were driving in our

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little Ford Explorer here. It's a wonderful car. I actually

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like it a lot. But we're going down and my

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you know, we've got all the luggage in the back.

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We've got luggage on the top, and my one son

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is in the very back, and my daughter's in the

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in her car seat on the side, and my other son,

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who's who's twelve at the time, he's sitting in the

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right hand seat behind the passenger where my wife was sitting.

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I'm driving, and my wife and my daughter and my

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other son were asleep, so they're all kind of just sleeping.

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You know. We got a couple hours to get there.

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So my other son, my son that saw the dog

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man with me, was was awake, and so he's just

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looking out the thing, you know, he's looking out the

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window and we're driving and we're going down. I'd say

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we we had already kind of we had been jostling

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with some trucks for a little bit a time, and

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then I was finally like, all right, these guys really

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are hustling. They need to get where they're going, so

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I let them pass on this lane highway. And so

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it's just us now. We're you know, once in a while,

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you know, every probably ten minutes or so, you might

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see a car come in the opposite direction. But we're

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kind of alone out here. We're driving outside of the

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cars that got off the boat that decided to take

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one of the motels. You know, we're one of the

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only cars on the roads outside of the big trucks.

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So we're going and again, it's it's about one in

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the morning at this point, and my son says, hey, Dad,

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do you see that? And I was like no, and

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so but then I look in the rear view mirror. Okay,

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so I look over to my right. My wife's still sleeping,

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so I see her, and I see in the rear

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view mirror, I see this creature. And I'll tell you

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a little bit of experience, like I know what a

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bear looks like, I know what a black bear looks like,

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I know what animals look like. Spent a lot of

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time in woods in different places, and I see this

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creature and I was like, okay, this is you know,

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slightly bigger than a black bear. And it's kind of

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on all fours. And now again I'm seeing this in

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the rear view mirror. My son got a really good

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look here, and I've seen this in the rearview. He's like,

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what is that?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: You know, and it's like it starts to stand up,

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and it stands up from it was kind of on

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all fours and then it slowly kind of stood up

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and and it's you know, it's it's on the side.

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We're going about i'd say eighty kilometers an hour maybe

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actually I guess we're probably doing almost one hundred, so

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that's about eighty you know, what is that? I think

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about eighty miles an hour. Anyways, we're going pretty fast,

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but then you know, it's not not too fast, you know,

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for the for the highway, but it stands up. So

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as it's standing up, I'm like, oh my god, Like,

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that is definitely not a bear. It's kind of slender,

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so definitely, you know, it's it's kind of it's like again,

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it's kind of like almost looking at a wolf and

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a bear. Mixed and a person mixed because it's it's

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it's like it's slender on the bottom and it kind of,

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you know, it's it's it looks very muscular. I don't

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know if any of you have seen the Harry Potter

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where Wolf it kind of it kind of had a

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little bit of that body, but then there was more

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hair to it. It was just this one was more slender.

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We ended up seeing too, but I'll go into that later.

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And so it stands up and it's it's kind of up.

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It has like a you know, a certainly a face.

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Now I'm watching this happen. I swear to god it

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was slow motion because I'm watching as we just passed it,

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and it's in my rear view mirror, and it like,

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you know, objects in mirror a closer than they appear, certainly,

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And it stands up and it's it's black, you know,

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it's it's black. It's you know, there's a little bit

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of gray to it, but it's mostly black. It's it's

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got the you know, it looks athletic. It's it's like

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an athletic dog. I don't know what to say. It

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was like a dog man, right, And so it stands

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up and it looks and it's looking at our car.

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It certainly saw us. And you know, my son's got

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his head to the door or the window and he's

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like twisted his head around and he's looking at this

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thing and he's like, oh my god, like what is

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this right? And it kind of had the glowing eyes.

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I don't want to say, like okay, it's the eyes

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aren't actually glowing, of course, but it had like yellowish

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white kind of eyes and it was just there and

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it's it's looking at us. It definitely, you know, is

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making a itself known that it was there. Obviously, it

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didn't start chasing us or anything. It was just it

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was just like, hey, like I'm wanting you to see

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me again. It was It was weird because I was like,

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you know, at first thought, I'm thinking a black bear,

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but I'm like, why is this thing standing up? And

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then it's like, okay, this certainly isn't a black bear.

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It's it's in the ravine, right, so it's down kind

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of we're on a two lane right now, and so

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there's a little bit of space between it and the

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tree line and it's kind of down and it had

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just kind of walked down and then it stands up

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and it's like, oh, okay, that's again, that's not a person,

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that's not a bear. That's something I haven't seen where,

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you know, the Explore mirrors aren't like too small at all.

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Like I saw it pretty well in the mirror, and

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I'm like, Okay, that's weird. And my son's getting a

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real nice look at this thing, and he's like, wow,

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that's a were wolf right, And obviously not quite but

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today it's like, oh, Dad, is that a were wolf?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is it? You know? And I'm like I didn't know

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what to make of it in that moment. So we're

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we're still driving here, okay, me and my son now

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begin to talk about what we just saw. We're past

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it by now. It wasn't like a terrifying experience. It

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was something I was just kind of in shock. You know.

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It's like, you know, if a whale comes up out

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of the water and you see a whale, you'll be like,

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oh wow. But you know, if like a spaceship comes

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out of the water, you'd be like, oh wow, like

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what am I seeing here? So it's kind of that

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feeling like something different, something outside of the normal. I

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could see it really well, even in the rear view,

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because it was so you know, again, if it's like

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a three quarter moon or something. It certainly it was

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the the moon was out enough and that we were

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able to see this thing well enough that I wouldn't say, okay,

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you know, I wouldn't have passed it off as something else. Now,

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what made me truly believe wasn't again this was It

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was the next experience that I'll go into after. But

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so me and my son are talking about it, you know,

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we're like, what what just happened? He's like, Dad, did

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you see that? I was like, yeah, like holy cow.

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Now we kind of wake my wife up a little

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bit and like, mom, did you see that? It's like no, what?

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Like what? What was just like an animal, you know,

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like a dog man thing? It was like werewolf. It

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was like no, like and anyway, she went back to sleep,

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so she wasn't really shoot. You know, everyone's tired. It

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was a long trip from our house. It's about twenty

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two hours, so you know, we we had had we

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had already gone, we had slept overnight somewhere, so we're

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about ten hours into the next day journey at this

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stage or you know, closer to twelve probably hours. So

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she's tired. Certainly I was tired too, but I was

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hopped up on energy drinks. You know, I got to

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drive my family safely, so I'm not I'm not letting myself.

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I've had enough experience through delivery driving that you know,

470
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,640
I'm not going to uh not be awake, right I had.

471
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,680
I even at points I cracked the window and I

472
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:55,160
was put my hand out and I, you know, I

473
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,400
just keep myself awake because you know, I got to

474
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,200
get my family there safely. So know, now we're reved up.

475
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Me and my son are like, holy cow. So we

476
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,160
start talking back and forth. We're like, you know, what

477
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,279
did you see? You know, wow, that was crazy. He's

478
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200
like like, Dad, I just you know, we just saw

479
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,319
this and and it was a kind of a cool

480
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,519
experience because again we had never experienced anything like that before.

481
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,640
And you and I were able to talk about it

482
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,319
and uh yeah, again it was it was like it

483
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160
was very athletic. It was black hair, it had kind

484
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,759
of glowing like eyes. I call them glowing because they're

485
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,119
just bright. You know. It was like it was hard

486
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:40,200
to mistake, very wolf like snout. There were Again, there's

487
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,880
parts of it. You know, if I think of a

488
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,640
you know, a van helsing where wolf, it wasn't like that.

489
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,839
It wasn't like huge bulky upper. It was you know,

490
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680
I had a bigger upper, but it wasn't it wasn't

491
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:58,680
it was it was it was very slender, but you know, muscular.

492
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,519
You know, there's there's tribes in different countries in the

493
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,640
world that you know, run a long way. And you know,

494
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,839
if you know, if I compare a bodybuilder to one

495
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:09,680
of those people from the tribes, it would be more

496
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,240
like the person from the tribe because they're just super

497
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:16,559
athletic people, right, very slender, able to go long distances.

498
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,359
This kind of body was built for that, certainly able

499
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,759
to maneuver long distances. So we keep going here, right,

500
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,759
and we're talking about this, and i'd say twenty minutes pass,

501
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
we're starting to calm down again. My son's like, hey,

502
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,880
you know, we'll talk about this again tomorrow, and so he,

503
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,440
you know, starts to kind of drift off again. It's

504
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,200
it's about one point thirty at this point in the

505
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:46,119
in the night, or I guess in the early early morning.

506
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,359
And so why I keep driving. You know, the kids

507
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,160
are all asleep, and next thing you know, in the

508
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,240
we're in a very similar place, but it's you know,

509
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:00,680
quite a ways up the road now again even closer

510
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,759
to the Stephenville and we're on the TransCanada Highway. So

511
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,839
we're going i'd say it's about three lanes. At this point.

512
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Some trucks had passed us again some you know, there

513
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,359
was kind of one on me for quite a while there,

514
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,319
and it was so it was i would say it

515
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,240
was the truck itself had just kind of gone gone

516
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,799
far off ahead, maybe about four hundred meters ahead of me,

517
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,039
and so it was way up there, but you know,

518
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,480
it was going and so then again I'm kind of

519
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,839
here alone. We're about to go around a bend kind

520
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,759
of thing. So there's lots of like kind of twists

521
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,119
and turns, but a lot of you know, there's some hills,

522
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,160
we're going up and down different places, but in this

523
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:49,720
part we were coming to kind of a left handed

524
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,119
turn and again on the side, we were fortunate at

525
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,880
this point. I'm kind of glad in some ways because

526
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,640
if it was right on the tree line, you know,

527
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200
ten meters from my car, be you know, feeling a

528
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
little bit different, but it was again on the right

529
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,720
side of the vehicle and I'm looking out ahead, and

530
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,720
on the right side there's again a kind of a clearing.

531
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,119
There's no there's not really a ravine this time, but

532
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,400
there is a small hill, just a small little hill

533
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,880
that's like a rounded hill, so it's not like a

534
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160
flat like drop off. It's just like a small little

535
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,319
like incline. And then there was also on the right

536
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:31,599
hand side, there was before that hill there was kind

537
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,559
of just an open area, so the hill kind of

538
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200
went around, and then there's a bunch of trees kind

539
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880
of you know, on that hill. And then on the

540
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,039
right side there's an open field and then some like

541
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,400
a little pond like it's just a couple of little

542
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,599
like pond type things. And then there's like space here.

543
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:54,359
So this is where there's kind of open space. And

544
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200
again there's kind of some little there's a little we

545
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,759
call them mountains, but there are nothing like the rockies,

546
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,039
but they're certain like there's some big ones of course,

547
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,759
so you know, you're kind of going through, which is

548
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:09,640
also another beautiful part of Newfoundland. Uh you're going through,

549
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:13,119
and so in the in the distance there's more trees,

550
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880
of course, but you know, right on this little mound,

551
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,559
as it's going up to the tree line, don't I

552
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,359
look out the front window, of the front right window,

553
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,680
and I see another dog man. And this was the

554
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,960
first time. And my son's asleep at this point. I

555
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,960
wake him up right after, but my a, as I'm

556
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,759
sitting here, I see this dog man, and at this

557
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,720
point I know, I'm like, this is a thing. This

558
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,920
is definitely what we saw earlier. It's not the same one.

559
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,519
It's actually it's actually got a little bit of white

560
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,480
on it. And it is black again, but it's got

561
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,319
some white. It's not gray and black like the other one.

562
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,839
It's more, it's more it's it's a different one. And

563
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,599
another reason why I knew it was a different one

564
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,799
is because it was standing. It's funny because it was

565
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:10,079
almost like there's a scene in Underworld where I think

566
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400
in the fourth one, if any of you watch Underwall,

567
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,519
you must like like wear wolf movies, But there's a

568
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:23,200
scene in that where the wolves. It wasn't the one

569
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
with Kate Beck and Sales one right after it's like

570
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,200
the prequel and they kind of slink back into the

571
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,960
forest like they they move back even in the first one,

572
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,440
there's a there's a shot of after Selene gets the

573
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,920
guy Victor, the wolves kind of slink back into the shadows. Well,

574
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,920
this is kind of how it felt. It was like

575
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,039
right on the shadow line. It's standing right beside these trees,

576
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:54,519
right between them. It's very at this point, it's very

577
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:58,160
much making itself known to me. And it is different

578
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960
than the other one. It looks more or it has

579
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,720
more of an energy of one of like the leaders,

580
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:07,960
if you will, of seemingly a clan of these things.

581
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,000
It's it's it's bulkier up top. It's not as slender

582
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,519
as the other one. Uh. If if I was to

583
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,719
describe them, the other one would be more like a scout,

584
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,119
and this one's kind of like more of like a

585
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,719
you know. It definitely had the energy of like I'm

586
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,920
in charge and I'm making myself known to you. So

587
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:33,159
it's there and it's sitting or sorry, it's not sitting,

588
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,920
it's standing up, and and I'm looking at this thing

589
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,880
and we kind of lock eyes right again. It had

590
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:41,480
This one had actually as funny, this one had less

591
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:43,599
yellow eyes than the other one. It had more white

592
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:48,360
white eyes almost. It was weird because it's almost like

593
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,639
there's I don't know how to describe this, because there's

594
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:56,800
almost like a humanness to it. But again, it's you know,

595
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,280
it was definitely a dog man, but it was it

596
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,480
was very much like its eyes were able to speak

597
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,760
to me, if that makes any sense. It was able

598
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,519
to like communicate to me through it through its gaze.

599
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,880
But you know, it's funny. Right now, I have a

600
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,840
poster in my room, I mean, my my basement office

601
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,599
right now, and we have a I have a beautiful

602
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,599
wolf and it's just it's in this like stare and

603
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,760
it's just kind of staring at me and that and

604
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,159
it's funny because I never thought of this. This is

605
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:37,079
exactly how that that a dog man looked at me.

606
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,960
And on the poster says in wildness is the preservation

607
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,880
of the world. And in this moment, when I'm looking

608
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,280
at this dog man, I'm getting this sense.

609
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: Of I, you know, we're aware of you, we're here,

610
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,360
we're looking at you, and and uh uh yeah, so

611
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:57,159
it was there.

612
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,599
Speaker 1: It's it's bigger, it's bulkier up top, it's more got

613
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,800
kind of more of that almost like a bodybuilder look.

614
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,039
But again, it's very it's still slender. It's like it's

615
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,159
still very athletic. It's nothing like you know, it's not

616
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,599
like a huge, bulking beast like you know, like Eddie

617
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,800
Hall or anything like that. It's it's just it's a

618
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,039
little bit bulk. You're up top certainly again has that

619
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,159
very commanding presence, and it's looking at me and it's

620
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:28,800
got it. You know. I don't know how to describe it,

621
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,480
because it's it's it's not got its hand us on

622
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,760
a hips or anything. It's not one of those funny memes.

623
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,119
It's just like it's just there looking at me. But

624
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,079
it's looking at me intensely, right, It's it's looking at

625
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:45,079
me with just a feeling of I'm witnessing you, I'm

626
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,840
watching you, I'm we're aware of you. And I had

627
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,239
never experienced anything like this. Again, I had just probably

628
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,639
i'd say about six months prior to this experience, I

629
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:04,679
had experienced my first ghost experience, and so this was

630
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239
kind of like that happening again in a way, because

631
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,119
it was very much like, Okay, this is something I

632
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,320
have to get used to. These are real things that

633
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,880
are out here. Again. I didn't even think dog men

634
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,760
at the time. Like I was. I was, you know,

635
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,880
obviously in that in that moment, I wasn't thinking dogmen.

636
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,639
But then immediately after I'm like, oh, yeah, that was

637
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,639
a that was a dog man. That's what that was.

638
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,800
But what was interesting is because I had never I

639
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,880
you know, I had after this experience, I looked up

640
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
and I looked and I said, you know, are there

641
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:44,360
really dog men in this uh in this area? And

642
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,800
and I didn't think there was. For the longest time,

643
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,599
I was like, I don't think there really are dog

644
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,079
men in Newfoundland. But I guess, like anything, you know,

645
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,280
if if there's packs of them, they they move around.

646
00:37:55,119 --> 00:38:00,400
Certainly it's an island that's locked off from regular land,

647
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:06,079
so there there has to be some sort of I

648
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,239
don't think they're not the type of like we're going

649
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,360
to stow away on a ship and get here. This

650
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:14,519
is very much like I I do believe that cryptids

651
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:19,280
have access to other uh you know, kind of dimensions

652
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,079
if you will, or you know, able to kind of

653
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,360
go in and between that, because there'd be no reason,

654
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,079
you know, I don't. I don't think they were always

655
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,800
on the island. If you will, I think that you know,

656
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,400
they're there it's kind of more of a newer thing,

657
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,599
or maybe you know, maybe there has been. And that's

658
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:38,840
one of the actually reasons why I'm on this show

659
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,280
right now, is because I had looked up, you know,

660
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,679
and I found a gentleman that was on the island

661
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,760
that had you know, Seen three and he was on

662
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,400
your show. And so that's that's why I even contacted you,

663
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,039
because you know, it's like, Okay, somebody else had this

664
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,639
experience on the island. Uh, this must be a thing.

665
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,000
They must be here, whether they were here before or

666
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,840
you know, the whole time, or if you know, it's

667
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,960
more of a newer occurrence. It certainly they're there now

668
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,079
looking at this thing and seeing it. It's pretty you know,

669
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:22,280
it was pretty tall, certainly bigger than me. I'm about

670
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,519
five eleven and a half, you know who call six feet.

671
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,719
I guess it seemed it seemed like it was bigger

672
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,960
than me. If I was outside and not in a

673
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,159
car driving at you know, sixty seventy miles an hour,

674
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,440
I'm sure that I would have felt a little bit

675
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:45,199
more intimidated, especially at you know, one p thirty two am.

676
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:50,280
But in this moment, I didn't feel that sense of intimidation.

677
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:54,199
I felt like more of like a reverence almost for

678
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719
these creatures. Again, I know a lot of people have

679
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,119
had a lot of different stories, but this is just

680
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,000
the way I felt in that moment. Because for me,

681
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,679
with some of the work I do, I'm a spiritual

682
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,920
life coach. On the side, I'm also a just an entrepreneur, right,

683
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,239
so do I do? Lots of I have businesses, practical

684
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480
businesses too, So again I have to kind of be

685
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,519
able to merge both the worlds. But in this I

686
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:25,800
didn't feel like a sense I'd like to have one

687
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719
or two. I'd like to have two confirmations of something

688
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,039
and so if they are connected to that somehow. This

689
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,840
was certainly the second confirmation for me that I needed

690
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,119
to be like, Wow, Okay, this is something, what is

691
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:45,039
this about? What is this moment for? And again, if

692
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,960
I was outside at you know, two in the morning,

693
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,559
I certainly probably would have been a little scared. My

694
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,440
son probably would have been a little scared. You know,

695
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,320
when there's a being that you know could mess you up,

696
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,239
you know, whether it's sasquatch or anything. You know, even

697
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,480
if even if you're just around somebody that has a

698
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,159
sword or something you know you're going to feel a

699
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:12,000
sense of intimidation because you don't know somebody's or anything's intentions.

700
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,039
I didn't feel a sense of like fear from the intentions. Again,

701
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,559
I'm very good at reading people either, even if they're

702
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,239
in the room with me. I you know, I like

703
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,119
people or I don't, just based on their energy. Sometimes

704
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,360
I'm wrong, but most of the times I'm pretty spot on.

705
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,679
And so this wasn't that at all, Like I didn't

706
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,559
feel that, but it was definitely like this is our

707
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,800
land situations. It would almost be like if you were

708
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,360
to be you know, Christopher Columbus coming across or one

709
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,159
of the vikings coming around you see a bunch of

710
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,639
natives standing on the side with weapons and they're like

711
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400
they don't know, and you don't know. That's kind of

712
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,920
how it felt. In a way. It's like we're just

713
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,760
in each other's world, in each other's lane, and we're

714
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:03,440
knowledging each other, and so it's like, Okay, what is this?

715
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,920
And so that's kind of how it felt. But again,

716
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760
if I was outside with the thing, I may have

717
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,760
felt a lot more intimidated from the experience. But yeah,

718
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,320
I'd say again, the moon's going again, it felt like

719
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:21,679
time was slow. I was able to really pick up

720
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,159
on the features, kind of like the claw like hands.

721
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:28,639
It's funny because the feet are very much more like

722
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,360
like kind of like it's up on its back legs.

723
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960
It's very much like a dog dog legs. And then

724
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,880
you go up the body. Now I didn't notice any

725
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,800
tail or anything like that. Maybe I wasn't looking, but

726
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,119
I didn't notice like massive, you know, like a tail

727
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,360
or anything like that. But as we're going up its features,

728
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,079
it's very athletic, you know. I did see some you know,

729
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,119
just slenderness in there, and then the upper body was

730
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,079
very bulky. But then hand the hands interesting because they're

731
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,760
not you know, they're not human hands, and they're they're

732
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,280
they're like dog feet, but they're they're like more I

733
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,039
don't know how to describe it. I guess it's more

734
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,559
like they're they're almost it's almost like they're able to

735
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:17,679
use them in a way that you know, if if

736
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,639
a dog was standing up on a hind legs, it

737
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,199
can't use its feet right, the feet just kind of

738
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,559
flop down and it's other unusable. For for whatever reason,

739
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:28,760
this dog man or then the other one even too,

740
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,440
seemed like it had some ability to maybe utilize its

741
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,559
hands in other ways. And that's I guess why they're uh,

742
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,480
what's what's the word not bipedal, because that's too when

743
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,199
they're able to go on stand up on their back

744
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,119
legs and walk, or on all fours and walk, So

745
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,719
there certainly has to be some ability there to do both. Uh.

746
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,559
But they were definitely connected to each other. Again, from

747
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:58,039
my experience, when I have anything happening in pairs like that,

748
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,760
it was like a confirmation for me that they were

749
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,400
trying to show themselves, you know, because if it had

750
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,400
just been the first experience and just for you know,

751
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,000
primarily for my son, and like when I seen it

752
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,159
in the rear view, it's like, okay, that's something I

753
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,880
kind of you know, turn my head a little bit

754
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,639
and I see it. It's like, okay, that's something, you know,

755
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,239
I might be able to chalk that up to this

756
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,679
is just a random event. But in this experience, it

757
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,559
was a very much a confirmation for me that there

758
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,679
were two and that they were trying to reveal themselves

759
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,119
to me. And then after that I didn't wake my

760
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:38,159
wife up at this point, it's again very late but

761
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,000
I woke my son up, like I saw another one.

762
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,840
I saw another one, buddy. He's like, no way, no way, Dad,

763
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,480
that's crazy. He's like, what did it look like? And

764
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,039
so I'm telling him, and then you know, we're we're

765
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:50,119
just wrapped up at this point because it was it

766
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,400
was kind of a cool experience, especially if you're not

767
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,159
afraid of it. In that moment. You know, I'm walking outside.

768
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:57,679
It has no way to jump on me and eat

769
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,519
me or anything like that. But yeah, so I'm just

770
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:05,199
telling him, and then we kind of got to We

771
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,199
kept driving, and I then start to tune in from

772
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:14,639
a spiritual perspective on the whole thing, and yeah, so

773
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:18,960
we get there and that was kind of the main

774
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,280
encounterpoints for me. But again, it felt like time was slow,

775
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,679
so I was able to like process it much quicker,

776
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,840
if you will. And it felt like I was able

777
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,760
to look at him for you know, forty seconds maybe

778
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:38,639
almost like it felt like I was able to watch

779
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,920
him for almost a minute. And I'm sure that it

780
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,079
was only like a quick five, you know, ten seconds

781
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,159
that I saw because as we approached, he's standing there

782
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,239
making himself known because he moves out of the tree

783
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,599
line and then he kind of moves back into the

784
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:56,079
tree line as we're passing. So it was very much

785
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,920
just a very cool and unique encounter and that was

786
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,280
confirmation for me. And that was just me that saw

787
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,320
that one. So I knew at that point like what

788
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,639
we had seen earlier was certainly accurate and true, because again,

789
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:14,199
I don't like to just believe my eyes all the

790
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,039
time or believe my feelings all the time. It's like, okay,

791
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:20,480
I need confirmation, and that was definitely in it. So, yeah,

792
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:24,480
that was our experience from that perspective.

793
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:26,679
Speaker 2: Isn't life exciting?

794
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:28,679
Speaker 1: Oh so very much?

795
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,599
Speaker 2: When you have experiences like what you did, it definitely

796
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:35,719
does ref things up. You said they looked like a

797
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,000
cross between a bear and a wolf. Did their heads

798
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:41,199
look more beer alike or wolf like?

799
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: For me? Like, they looked definitely more wolf like. I

800
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,159
think the bear reference where it's like a cross between

801
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,760
a bear, a wolf, and a man is more like

802
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,639
they had kind of like almost you know how sometimes

803
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,199
wolf for isn't like as thick this this fur on,

804
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,760
especially the second one, seemed a lot thicker and the

805
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,880
body like if it again, I know what a black

806
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,679
bear looks like. I know it's late at night, but

807
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,400
I'm already revved up at this point. I'm totally in

808
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,880
the zone, just like feeling high on life and enjoying,

809
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,360
you know, the drive, and being safe because I here's

810
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,119
the other thing. When you're driving at night, especially in Newfoundland,

811
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:33,440
especially in Newfouland, there are moose that will come out

812
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,400
of nowhere and run in front of your car, and

813
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,320
your whole family's dead, and we don't want that. So

814
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,880
I'm very much on high alert, not in a bad sense,

815
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,920
just I'm focused, right, I'm there. So I was able

816
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,440
to look and this, Yeah, it just had a bulk.

817
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,039
You're more of a black bear like upper body, I'd say,

818
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:56,760
and then like kind of like a wolf like lower body.

819
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,840
Again the pause were more wolf like. It would just

820
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,000
I think where the bear cross comes in is just

821
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:06,920
more of that. It certainly had more fur on this

822
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,760
one on the top and just more of that thickness

823
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,199
to it. So it just again it was a little

824
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:19,280
bit different, but very much in the same kind of mindset,

825
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,639
but very much a wolf like, you know, canine type head.

826
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:27,199
Speaker 2: There are places in Kentucky where the locals call the

827
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,119
dog men beer rellas because they kind of look like

828
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:34,679
a cross between a gorilla and a bear. Well, there

829
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,280
are other places where people call them beer wolves because

830
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,039
of the look that they have, where they look somewhat

831
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:43,760
like a bear and they look somewhat like a wolf.

832
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,000
So I think it's ironic that they're in Newfoundland. The

833
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,039
two that you saw had that look that they did.

834
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, that's how I would describe them. Certainly. Again,

835
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,760
the one was a little bit more slender, but they

836
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,559
just it's funny because it's when you're when you're thinking

837
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:08,760
about I've seen a lot of were wolf movies and

838
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,800
a lot of things over time, and it wasn't like

839
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:15,920
a classic were wolf. Again, you have Underworld were wolves,

840
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,960
you have Van Helsing were wolves, you have one of

841
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,800
my favorites, dog Soldier wear wolves, and you know ginger snaps.

842
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,159
You have all these different types of creatures and this

843
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,719
kind of looked like a cross between some of them,

844
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:37,239
and yeah, like bear like and also but then sorry,

845
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,679
they also the the Harry Potter were wolf. You know,

846
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,199
I'd say it's kind of a cross between that and

847
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,119
a classic like were wolves. So yeah, very much like

848
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,480
there was some bear features there too that you could

849
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,559
argue that were there but again, these are dog mens,

850
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,719
so it's a I think maybe like anything, you know,

851
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,320
whether it's and maybe this is something for the listeners

852
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,079
and something for other people that have had these experiences.

853
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,679
You know, how deer can be different in every different regions.

854
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,199
Maybe there's kind of that going on as well, Like

855
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,599
there might be different kind of dogmen in different regions.

856
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:20,800
I'm sure that's the case with a lot of cryptids,

857
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,559
like they just you know, there's different types of orcas,

858
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,440
there's different types of everything, So I'm sure that that

859
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:27,599
might be a thing.

860
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,159
Speaker 2: All that definitely does hold true with dog men. To

861
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,480
seeing the first one leave your son more excited or fearful.

862
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: For my son, I think he like he takes after

863
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:44,559
his dad, So I think it was like, WHOA, what

864
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:46,960
did I just see? It was, you know, kind of

865
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:51,159
because we're in a car going pretty quickly, and he

866
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,880
was he was able to get a really good look,

867
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,679
but it was like just something out of the ordinary, right,

868
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,639
and so he was just more in shock and awe.

869
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:05,360
Definitely not fearful, because this is again part of things

870
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,840
that I'm into. Anyway. I never had these experiences before,

871
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,920
but I had been over the last three years, really

872
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,840
diving into the more spiritual side of things. This was

873
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,800
for him and something where he wasn't afraid at all,

874
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,880
and neither was I. But again, that may be different.

875
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,480
You know, of course, if you're out in the woods

876
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,000
by yourself and you feel like something is watching you,

877
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,960
If you feel like it felt like something was watching me,

878
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,320
and that's what made me look up in the first place,

879
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,679
it's like, oh, I'm about to have another one of

880
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,760
these experiences. And yeah, lo and behold you look up

881
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,280
and I see this thing in the near the tree

882
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,679
line for the second time. So my son, my son,

883
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,679
definitely it wasn't a place of fear, but very much

884
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,000
would have been different. I'm sure if we were outside

885
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:53,599
with a thing.

886
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,519
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure it would have too. Yeah. That changes everything,

887
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:00,000
and it goes with us saying I'm so glad he's

888
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:03,880
handling all this so well. Speaking of him, was he

889
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,039
frustrated about not seeing the second one?

890
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, he was. He was pointed, excuse me, he

891
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,960
was very much disappointed in not seeing the second one

892
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,559
like I had. It was. Yeah, I think that he would.

893
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,880
He would have liked to see it. He's always trying

894
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,639
to to have those experiences. You know, not that we

895
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,119
were ever looking to have a dog man experience, but

896
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,599
he likes the stuff as well, and I'm sure he

897
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,760
would have liked to see the second one, especially after

898
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,559
I described it to him.

899
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,119
Speaker 2: I figured it would be that way, but I thought

900
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:43,239
i'd ask you to be thorough about that. Do you

901
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,920
think you could have stopped the Explorer and had time

902
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,559
to wake him up so we could have seen that

903
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:49,880
second one instead of passing by?

904
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:57,199
Speaker 1: I think because it was so late at night. So well,

905
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,199
there's a lot going through my mind, right because as

906
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,039
we're driving, you know, I've got to get to to

907
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:06,199
you know, get us safely, and we've got probably another

908
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,079
two hours to our destination at this point, because we

909
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:11,039
weren't just going to Cornerbrook. We were going out to

910
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:14,440
the to the cabin, which was but another fifty minutes out.

911
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:18,119
So I it was already super super late. We already

912
00:53:18,159 --> 00:53:22,800
had such a long day. And again from a perspective

913
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,800
of I didn't feel the need to stop, you know,

914
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,440
it wasn't like I should slam out my brakes. Holy cow,

915
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:35,159
what is this? Because I felt like I was got

916
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:40,559
a sense of the thing just through, just through like

917
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,639
an intuition. If you will. And so it wasn't. It

918
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,480
didn't feel like this is a moment to stop. And

919
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:49,840
I know that sounds crazy because you're like, oh my god,

920
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,000
like you just saw a dog man. You know, for

921
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,079
anybody else listening, I'm so sorry that I didn't do it.

922
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
But you know, it's it's I've got my four year

923
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,760
old daughter, you know, my seven year old son. Everyone's sleeping,

924
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,920
my wife's sleeping. Uh. You know, it's kind of dangerous

925
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,199
to stop. Also on the highway at night with all

926
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,840
these big transports kind of coming through. There's moose everywhere,

927
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,800
and you know, it didn't feel like the responsible dad

928
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,400
thing to do, because let's say, you know, I got

929
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,440
even thinking. You know, it's like if this is what

930
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,320
I think it is, if this truly is a dog man,

931
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,639
and and now I'm going to stop. It's not very

932
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:32,920
far from the road, right, and they can move quick,

933
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,280
you know, they they're not slow by any means. And

934
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,199
so if I'm looking at this thing again, it's I'm

935
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,440
coming up on I see out the right hand side

936
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,800
of my front window. So as I'm driving closer, I'm

937
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,320
going you know, again, about one hundred kilometers an hour,

938
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,639
maybe ninety I definitely slowed down. I one hundred percent

939
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,119
slowed down now that I'm thinking about it, But I didn't.

940
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:55,480
There was no chance I was going to be stopping

941
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,199
to to to see this thing, because again, if there

942
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,639
is some sort of threat to it, I'm not going

943
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:05,800
to put my family in that sort of danger. Right

944
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,480
And and even though I like to think that, you know,

945
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:12,840
I was having an intuition with it and it was

946
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,320
there for for me and that, you know, my family,

947
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,239
then it's I just I'm not gonna I'm just not

948
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,639
going to do that. If it was just me in

949
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:27,360
the car, or even me and my wife, yeah, I

950
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,440
probably would have. Honestly, It's like I'd love to go

951
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,519
h tornado watching, you know, to you know, be one

952
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,639
of those people and just see that. I like to

953
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:39,440
have those cool new experiences. I love that stuff, but

954
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,239
I'm not going to put my kids in harm's way

955
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,800
by any means. So that wasn't even thought honestly for me.

956
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,559
Speaker 2: Well, it's totally understandable. When you have all the considerations

957
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,199
that you were dealing with, I can totally understand why

958
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,760
you didn't stop. You said that the second one wasn't

959
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,360
all that far from the road. How close would you

960
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,199
say it was to the road at the closest point.

961
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the close point it stays so okay. So again,

962
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,559
as we're going up, there's kind of a clearing and

963
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:13,880
then the little like little kind of a hill, like

964
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,559
a small hill. I'd say, if you're to stand next

965
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,159
to this little hill, is a nice rounded hill. It

966
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,760
would be about I don't know, six feet tall. It's

967
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,239
not a huge hill, you know, maybe maybe eight feet tall.

968
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,159
Not even a huge hill. It's like something you easily

969
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,960
run up, right, It's it's it's like, you know, something

970
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,360
you'd take your four year old on on a sled

971
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,360
and you did go up and down a million times, right,

972
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,960
it's not it's nothing crazy. And then on on the

973
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,519
on the side with it was by the trees. So

974
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,480
right there, right at the top of the hill is

975
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,440
the little the trees. You know, it's kind of the

976
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,639
trees kind of followed around and the hills kind of

977
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,159
you know, like a little i want to say, like

978
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,559
a half circle and then kind of goes back off

979
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:58,400
into like the back trees and stuff. So as you're

980
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,159
it's it's almost like in an if you're to put

981
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:05,639
your hand your left hand on this like to your

982
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,000
right side, and you put your thumb out in a

983
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,519
ninety degree angle. That's kind of what it looked like, right,

984
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,639
And as you put your hand on an angle, there's

985
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:18,559
like a little hill up and then there's trees once

986
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,199
you get to your finger point. And if you're to

987
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,000
draw a line with your index finger from your other

988
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:26,880
index finger and you follow the pattern in your hand

989
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:31,400
and your and follow it down through to your thumb,

990
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,280
that would be like the incline and then the way

991
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,559
the trees kind of went on the top of the hill.

992
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,599
So it's it's kind of if you're again follow with

993
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:47,400
your finger, it's probably at your first knuckle where the wolf,

994
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,719
you know, the dog man was standing. And so I'm

995
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,679
driving up to it. I see it at the right window. Again,

996
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:55,400
it felt for me like it was more a minute.

997
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,639
I'm probably driving. I slowed down a little bit, so

998
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,639
I'm probably going about eighty kilometers an hour. Was that

999
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,559
sixty miles an hour? Maybe fifty miles an hour, whatever

1000
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:08,360
it was, So we're going I would say, what are

1001
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,840
we dealing with? Feet here? I'd say it was about

1002
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,480
twenty meters away, so maybe about what's meters to feet. No,

1003
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:21,800
it's probably even close. Now, it's definitely even closer than that.

1004
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:25,320
It was pretty close. It was pretty close to the road. Honestly,

1005
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:29,800
you could if you're to put two cars between it,

1006
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,559
I'd say about maybe five five cars, not long ways,

1007
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,800
short ways. If you're to just park cars from the

1008
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,280
road all the way to the tree line, it's probably

1009
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,079
like five or six cars lengths. So what you know,

1010
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:47,519
I'm trying to I know everybody's dealing with different measurements here,

1011
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:50,760
so I'm trying to just give a visual. Yeah, probably

1012
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,119
about five or six car lengths to the little hill

1013
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:56,800
and then the hill, this tiny, tiny little hill up

1014
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,679
and then there there it is right there. So as

1015
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:02,800
we're as I'm going here, it's it's pretty close to

1016
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,000
the road and we lock eyes. I'm in on this

1017
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,960
thing and I'm driving by, and it was so cool

1018
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,079
because as I start to drive by, I'll never forget it,

1019
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,320
like on the in the passenger window. I wish you

1020
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,760
know again, it's one of those moments I don't know

1021
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,480
if you can, I truly have a belief you can't

1022
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,079
sometimes actually pick these things up on camera like they're there,

1023
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:30,360
if there are dimensional beings or if they're you know,

1024
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,639
able to go between like sasquatch and all these other

1025
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,880
creatures that you know, are able to you know, become

1026
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,679
invisible if you will, or phase in and out of

1027
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,840
dimensional living. I don't think that you can pick them

1028
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,199
up on camera. I think that's why a lot of

1029
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:49,880
people have troubles getting them. It would be like you

1030
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,360
were taking a picture out the window of like a

1031
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,920
dog man, right and right in my face there and

1032
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:59,880
you know, my wife. It's hilarious because in my head, ye,

1033
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,960
there a picture. Uh. You know, my wife's got brown hair.

1034
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,000
So she's she's rested against the you know, her head

1035
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:08,239
against the side of the car, you know, closer to

1036
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,119
the dog man. Uh. And she's got her legs kind

1037
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:13,840
of up. Not always the safest position to drive in,

1038
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,639
of course, because you know, you could hurt your legs

1039
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:19,639
or you know, break your legs. But anyways, looking out

1040
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,039
the window, so I'm seeing her laid down on their

1041
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,119
head in like a pillow. And then out the side

1042
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:28,400
window and again this is all happening in slow motion.

1043
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,159
I see the dog man and it's like it's looking

1044
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,199
at me and we had locked eyes before it even

1045
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,159
got to this window. But it was like, ow, it's

1046
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,039
a it's an image I will never forget. It's like

1047
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:43,719
a dog man up my wife's head, and then the

1048
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,920
little hill and then the trees in the back and

1049
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,679
the dog man just standing right there, and yeah, pretty honestly,

1050
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:54,800
pretty amazing experience for me. Again, I never thought i'd

1051
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,719
see something like this, so it was very very cool.

1052
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:00,599
Speaker 2: Well, you know it is you never expect to see

1053
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:03,119
a dog me in until you do. And if your

1054
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,960
wife would have only known was right outside her window.

1055
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,039
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I think she would have been a little

1056
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:14,320
u Yeah, I think it's probably a good thing she

1057
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,360
didn't see. That's she may have had a lot different

1058
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,079
feeling about it than I did.

1059
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: No, I bet she probably would have. Did it. Ever,

1060
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,159
seem like anyone else on the highway might have seen

1061
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:27,559
that second dog me in two?

1062
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:36,679
Speaker 1: No, only because again the truck had gone past. And

1063
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,400
like you know, if somebody see something, especially a truck

1064
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,199
driver at night, you know, they see those they're prone

1065
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,559
to seeing, you know, their imagination and plays tricks on

1066
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:51,320
them at nighttime especially, you know, and sometimes it's not

1067
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,239
even their imagination. Many times they actually do see many

1068
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,079
many things. I'm sure many of you truck drivers can relate,

1069
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,559
but it's it's very important that they all so tune

1070
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:03,840
that stuff out because they have to get where they

1071
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,760
need to go safely. So I don't think this, you know,

1072
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:09,800
I don't think the truck and saw in front of

1073
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,119
me saw saw this at all. Again, it was kind

1074
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:14,400
of our It was already around the bend when I

1075
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,480
even got close to it, So I don't I can't

1076
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:21,239
imagine anybody else saw this. It would have been cool, obviously,

1077
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,800
you know, but but no, it was just it was

1078
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,119
just me. And so that's why, you know, it's hard

1079
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:29,880
to take, you know, one person's word for it. And

1080
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,599
that's why again, a show like this where you know,

1081
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,079
we've all had these experiences, you know, and we've you know,

1082
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:38,159
slightly different experiences here and there, but you know, we

1083
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:40,679
can all vouch to say, you know, I saw something

1084
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:43,039
that stood out, you know, stood out and it was

1085
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:43,960
completely different.

1086
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, Brett, you might be the only person who saw

1087
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,320
that second dog Man, but I believe you, I really do.

1088
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,039
Now you told us about the bright moon that was

1089
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:58,760
out that night, and it's a given that a lot

1090
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,760
of people listening to to night show are convinced that

1091
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,480
what you saw were to wear wolves not dog men.

1092
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,639
What's your take on that. Do you think they were

1093
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,519
dog men or do you think they were were wolves?

1094
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:12,960
And if they were were wolves, is that a good

1095
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:13,840
thing or a bad.

1096
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:16,639
Speaker 1: Thing for me?

1097
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: Uh?

1098
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: Like, listen, I love were wolves, I really do. I

1099
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,440
love them like they're they're I'm very connected with the

1100
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:31,760
wolf in general. Actually I'm Mohawk Native. It's funny. I'm white,

1101
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,599
but I'm Mohawk Native. I've got my status card and

1102
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,280
I'm from the wolf clan, so I'm very connected with

1103
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,719
the wolf. But if I was to think about these

1104
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:47,920
they they definitely felt more dog man uh and very

1105
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:54,639
much like they It's funny because I think were wolves

1106
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:57,599
have a sort of a different energy or reading. If

1107
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,920
if everything is made of energy, right, and and there's

1108
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:04,960
different energy readings for different creatures. This one definitely I've

1109
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,559
spent time with wolf energy, and it was sort of

1110
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:12,079
it was it was not wolf energy, it was more

1111
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:14,760
it was definitely more dog man energy. If that makes

1112
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,440
even any sense to anybody, I hope it does. But

1113
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:25,400
it very much felt like dog men. I don't think

1114
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,800
it would have been a problem for me if it

1115
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,519
was where wolf energy definitely different were wolves. It definitely

1116
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,199
would have been a different scenario in terms of probably

1117
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,800
what they were after or what they wanted. I I just, yeah,

1118
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,360
I would not have started searching for dog man encounters

1119
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,760
in Newfoundland if I didn't think this was a dogmen.

1120
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,039
And I think that there's just there's just different creatures

1121
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,519
and there's there's different things, and I just I just

1122
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,320
believe this was a dog man. Yeah, I don't know

1123
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,760
how to describe outside of that.

1124
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,719
Speaker 2: Well, that makes two of us. I'm pretty sure they

1125
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,159
were dog men. It was clear that they wanted you

1126
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,480
to see them. But what benefit do you think there

1127
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:12,400
was for you to see.

1128
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: Them that night?

1129
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: I guess this is where I'll have to kind of

1130
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,960
get into a little bit of my background, just so

1131
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:23,280
people have a little bit of context that that's.

1132
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: Okay sure by all means.

1133
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I run a senior's moving business. We work

1134
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,039
with a lot of seniors. We do, you know, I help,

1135
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:38,960
you know, I hire caring people to help ensure you know,

1136
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,320
grandma gets where she is needs to go safely. We

1137
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,079
move people into seniors' homes. If you don't know what

1138
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,320
that is, it's a place where elderly people go and

1139
01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:50,679
live with other elderly people and get care and so

1140
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,079
you know, we help people downsize. That's my day to day, okay.

1141
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,519
But I also am a spiritual life coach. So I

1142
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:04,519
grew up in the in the Pentecostal Christian world, and

1143
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,480
it never fully resonated with me. I asked a lot

1144
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,079
of questions I from from my perspective, I it was

1145
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:15,599
it was God or whatever you want to call it

1146
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:18,880
has been so much more and so I felt like

1147
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,679
a lot of that stuff limited to for for me personally, again,

1148
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,840
I'm very much open to every religion. I think that

1149
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,119
any sort of extremes for anything can can become a

1150
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,159
bad thing. As you know, too much of anything becomes

1151
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:36,199
a bad thing. But I think that for me from

1152
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:38,400
a spiritual perspective, I kind of fell out of that

1153
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,960
for several years and then I had something in my

1154
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:45,880
business where my life sort of changed. And I won't

1155
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,760
go into detail, but my life changed outside of control.

1156
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,679
And I'm all about taking responsibility for our actions. And

1157
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,119
sometimes things just happen in life and you have to

1158
01:06:58,159 --> 01:07:00,679
decide how you're going to react to them, how it's

1159
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:02,280
going to change you, how it's going to affect you,

1160
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,000
and I decided to change. You know, I had to

1161
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:10,079
make some very tough decisions in my business to change

1162
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:14,400
my business to be able to keep paying for my life. Again,

1163
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,800
things outside of my control happened and it forced me

1164
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,360
to really have to reevaluate my life. And during that time,

1165
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,519
during what many people call the dark knight of the soul,

1166
01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:29,079
I had to spend some time. And in that time

1167
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,039
of going through all this, I was alone as much

1168
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:35,719
as my wife was there. You know, I'm dealing with

1169
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,559
a lot of this heavy, heavy stuff alone and that's

1170
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:42,079
where spirit really came back for me, and I found

1171
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:46,039
this interest in, you know, getting connected with mediumship and

1172
01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:48,719
starting to understand some of the questions I had a

1173
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,599
little bit more. Again, some of you might not be

1174
01:07:51,639 --> 01:07:53,840
into that, and that's totally okay. Some of you might

1175
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,760
see it as evil or any of the stuff. I

1176
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,599
truly believe that everything is of God and everything is

1177
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,679
of you know, Creator and Source and any of that stuff.

1178
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,800
And for me, it was always about helping people. Is

1179
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,679
always about like growing and learning in that moment. And

1180
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,320
because of that work, because of the spiritual work that

1181
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,199
I do, I create apps for people. I create apps

1182
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,159
to help people work through shadow work because a lot

1183
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:21,319
of what we create from a scientific perspective even is

1184
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,199
we create the reality we want. So when we're talking internally,

1185
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,199
we're talking about, Okay, how is my internal reality? So

1186
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,680
my belief system shaping the external environment. So if all

1187
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,319
things exist, if all outcomes exist, if all possibilities exist,

1188
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,960
those types of things, what you are believing, what you're thinking,

1189
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,279
if you don't believe you can do it, you will

1190
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,319
never achieve it because you don't have a belief in

1191
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,560
you can. And you hear all the high power athletes

1192
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,159
and people talking about how you know, God was there

1193
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,319
the whole step of the way. You know, how they

1194
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,000
believed in themselves, how they were going to get there,

1195
01:08:59,039 --> 01:09:01,279
and that's how we're right. And so you have to

1196
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:05,399
have that belief. And so for me, going through this experience,

1197
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,560
I learned a lot of healing things. I worked on myself.

1198
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,960
I was able to kind of come up and say,

1199
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:13,600
how do I want to consciously create the life. And

1200
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,760
so that's why I began teaching people. I did readings,

1201
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,800
I did I connected with people's loved ones, and I

1202
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,039
was able to just really bring a sense of comfort

1203
01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:27,359
to people without lying to people. You know, with anything.

1204
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,319
I've worked in the moving industry. There are scammers everywhere.

1205
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,319
They're absolutely out there. So it's about bringing integrity to it.

1206
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,920
It's about understanding that you know, of course they're going

1207
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,199
to be fake psychics. Of course they're going to be

1208
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:42,000
fake mediums. Of course there's people just trying to that's

1209
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:43,960
with anything. You're going to have that with anything, and

1210
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,159
it's about a tuning to yourself, an alignment and making

1211
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:51,000
sure that Okay, this person is you know, is authentic,

1212
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:55,560
and even if the information isn't true, it's like they're

1213
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,119
doing it with their best intentions and with my readings,

1214
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,039
with my things. Even again that's not what I do

1215
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:05,159
full time, but with I just I'm here to help

1216
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:08,439
people and I'm here to help them consciously pick the

1217
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,159
life they want. So I developed a whole system for

1218
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:15,760
people to do that. Anyways, going back to this, I

1219
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:21,399
needed to explain that because with this, I have been

1220
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:26,159
doing a lot of traumatic healing. So I've been doing

1221
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:30,720
a lot of work around ancestry healing because again I

1222
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,800
have some Native, my wife has some Native, and there's

1223
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,319
a lot of there's a lot of options here in

1224
01:10:37,359 --> 01:10:40,000
the world where you know, we're leaning far right or

1225
01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:43,960
we're leaning far left. And again, I think any extremes

1226
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,159
is where we get into trouble because we end up

1227
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:50,279
so focused on these things. And I think that if

1228
01:10:50,319 --> 01:10:53,079
we can find some common ground with things, we can

1229
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,760
certainly get to where we want to be. But part

1230
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,840
of that is healing. Part of that is acknowledging all

1231
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,279
of this horrible stuff that's happened in all of our

1232
01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:06,319
different pasts, through different cultures, of different backgrounds, through all

1233
01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:09,079
of the pain of history, if you will, through all

1234
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:12,239
the people, you know, all the we're all standing on

1235
01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:14,520
the shoulders of giants now for the world that we

1236
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,479
live in. And it's our responsibility to make a better world.

1237
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,640
And so why say all that is because doing this work,

1238
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,079
connecting with different energies and different you know, ghosts even

1239
01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:29,920
and different you know, different creatures. I've noticed that the

1240
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,800
more I'm doing it, the more these experiences are happening.

1241
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,479
I've had some alien experiences and things like that. Actually

1242
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:42,920
because of this experience, I actually had and you know,

1243
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,439
a UFO experience in this same trip, and it was

1244
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,119
all connected because I felt like going down when we

1245
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:55,640
were planning this trip, we're planning to fly and last minute,

1246
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,960
our flights were canceled. Okay, So like it was again,

1247
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,079
I'm very much in synchronicities and things happening, and I

1248
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:05,359
tried so hard to go with the flow. So our

1249
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,560
plight was canceled. Well, wouldn't you say, Okay, we can

1250
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,680
either do two things here. We can say, you know what,

1251
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,359
we're going to go later and we're only gonna have

1252
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,000
way less time, or we can just get in the

1253
01:12:16,039 --> 01:12:18,560
car and go. And so we decided, hey, you know what,

1254
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:19,880
we're just going to get in the car and go.

1255
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,239
And so out of that and guess what, we were

1256
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,039
able to get book a faery ticket. Well, we didn't

1257
01:12:24,039 --> 01:12:25,880
think we'd book a fairy ticket because those things have

1258
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:28,720
to take a long time to do. We ended up

1259
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,000
literally eight hours later. We're packing our bags and we're

1260
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,800
getting in the car now and we're driving down and

1261
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,840
this again a twenty two hour drive, you know, twenty

1262
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,760
hour drive whatever it is. We're driving from Ontario all

1263
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,439
the way up through Quebec and down through New Brunswick

1264
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,319
and Nova Scotia and get a mount A ferry and

1265
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:53,159
going across the ocean to Newfoundland here. And through that

1266
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:57,039
process there was some I believe that your energy wherever

1267
01:12:57,079 --> 01:13:00,000
you are, we all have energy, and your energy effect

1268
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:04,560
x people in person. Your energy affects land, your energy

1269
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,520
affects everything around you. And the more you practice it,

1270
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,279
like in meditation or anything, you're going to experience those

1271
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,600
things happening more and more and more. The more you

1272
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,720
connect with this stuff, again, you have to be open

1273
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,159
because spirit isn't there to play games. It doesn't care

1274
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:21,720
if you believe in it or not. It doesn't care

1275
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,600
about any of that stuff. You get to choose the

1276
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,920
life that you want. All our purposes is to live

1277
01:13:28,039 --> 01:13:30,800
our most authentic life and follow the things that make

1278
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,640
us feel happiness, feel joy, because our joy is what

1279
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,960
actually is telling us that's what we need to be doing.

1280
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,279
So if you get a lot of joy from painting,

1281
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,800
that's what you should be doing. So as we're going

1282
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,079
on this trip, and even if it's in a limited

1283
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:47,119
capacity and it's not what you do every single day

1284
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:49,159
because you have to pay bills, like we have to

1285
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,159
integrate all of that. But going through this experience, I

1286
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:55,880
felt like part of this was, oh my god, I

1287
01:13:56,039 --> 01:13:59,239
have to drive through the land, and by driving through

1288
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:02,159
the land, my energy of the of the healing work

1289
01:14:02,199 --> 01:14:05,399
that I've been doing has been pushing and pushing and

1290
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,760
pushing and affecting the land, and so part of what

1291
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,880
I feel like the dog men were there for. When

1292
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,720
I saw those dogmen, I knew at that moment, especially

1293
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,000
the second interaction, that was confirmation for me that the

1294
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:22,840
work I was doing. And it sounds so silly, it

1295
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,560
sounds minuscule. I felt that I was supposed to do

1296
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,960
a little session when I was in Newfoundland and try

1297
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,640
to heal some of that past trauma of what my

1298
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:38,840
wife's ancestors had gone through, my wife's from the island

1299
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:40,720
and some of the stuff. You know, there's a lot

1300
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,880
of traumatic things, and part of doing that is working

1301
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,920
with the land. So I was I felt the intuition,

1302
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,880
and I was told from spirit, gather seashells from the water,

1303
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,439
from the water's edge, gather some rocks, bring it to

1304
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,319
the land, and then make a little shrine. So I did,

1305
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,319
and then I was also post it. And then I

1306
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,079
pick up some water and I sprinkled it all around

1307
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:07,960
the land. And then I was able to also then

1308
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:10,199
take stuff from the land and give it back to

1309
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,840
the water. And I know it sounds, it sounds silly.

1310
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,960
It might sound silly maybe, you know, I'm sure lots

1311
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,319
of people are open, But for whatever reason, it felt

1312
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:22,279
like the dog Man experience for me during that trip

1313
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,560
was meant to clarify and remind me this is part

1314
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,720
of why you're here. And we had a wonderful trip.

1315
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:33,439
My wife and I ended up going and my kids

1316
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,880
ended up going to this little island. It's very very

1317
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:41,479
tiny off obviously off the big island. And she didn't

1318
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,479
know this, but her family actually lived on this little island,

1319
01:15:47,039 --> 01:15:51,079
you know, eighty hundred years ago, and she had no idea.

1320
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:53,479
And we ended up making it a nukshook there and

1321
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,079
just playing with the clay and she's able to like

1322
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,640
be where her ancestors were and it was so cool.

1323
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,000
And and again then we saw whales on the trip.

1324
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:07,119
One of the evenings, a UFO flew over and kind

1325
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:08,920
of hovered there for a little bit before and I

1326
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,359
was out on the beach by myself, because I've been

1327
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:14,199
doing this stuff more and I've been more open to it,

1328
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:16,760
and I've been more attuned, and so it's like when

1329
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,680
you're in that space, it's like, okay, if if if

1330
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,399
you know a creature that's connect you know, you have

1331
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,880
to remember all these cryptids, whether you know there's going

1332
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,119
to be positive ones, there's going to be negative ones.

1333
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:32,520
Many of them are guardians. Many of them are very

1334
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,000
connected with with everything. They're like an animal, you know

1335
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,520
how an animal like. Obviously it's it's uh, kill and

1336
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,119
be killed obviously too, but in the in the in

1337
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:47,720
the context of connection with the land and environment, a

1338
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,920
bird isn't thinking about, oh, what do I have to

1339
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,199
do with my life? It just does and so do

1340
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:54,680
all these cryptids. So do all of the things. And

1341
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,079
that's how they're in harmony with their you know, they're

1342
01:16:58,119 --> 01:17:01,560
not taking more than they need. They're just living their lives.

1343
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,079
And so as people, we've taken more than we need.

1344
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,239
And it's not saying that, you know, growth and all

1345
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:07,960
that stuff. Is it possible, And it's not to say

1346
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,279
that we can't you know, be one with nature if

1347
01:17:10,279 --> 01:17:13,039
you will, but you know, we have to consciously choose

1348
01:17:13,079 --> 01:17:16,039
those things. So when they when they connect with somebody

1349
01:17:16,039 --> 01:17:20,159
who's open to helping, because again, part of healing is

1350
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:22,319
energy healing, and it's not just shadow work, it's not

1351
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:25,399
just this, it's like it's healing, you know, trom you know,

1352
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,359
and why would why would taking shells from the beach

1353
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,399
and sprinkling water. Why does that do? It's because it's

1354
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:36,000
a conscious choice. When you consciously choose to use your

1355
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:40,000
energy in a positive way, that changes it changes the

1356
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,000
stagna energy. If you walk into a room with somebody

1357
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:45,840
and they're negative and they're in a mood, as soon

1358
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,079
as you walk into the room, you're going to feel

1359
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,920
that way, and vice versa. When you walk into a

1360
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,079
room with somebody positive, you get a feeling of uplifting.

1361
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,359
So I think that the cryptids and all of it

1362
01:17:58,399 --> 01:18:01,920
were these experience is. Again, I know that you've had

1363
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:05,079
a personal difference on this one, but I think these

1364
01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:08,640
it feels like at least we're starting to learn more

1365
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,840
about these interactions. And I don't think they're all negative.

1366
01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:14,239
I think that many of them are neutral. I think

1367
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:16,680
that if you're having an experience, you may be more

1368
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,199
open to it and you may be much more connected

1369
01:18:20,319 --> 01:18:23,920
than you think. And I don't necessarily think, you know, obviously,

1370
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,399
I'm sure again there's been people that have been harmed

1371
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,560
by these things, and you know that's a very very

1372
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,600
very small percentage of people. But I think that there's

1373
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:36,800
it's a wake up call when you see something like this,

1374
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,920
if you're feeling fear. I again, many times, I'm not

1375
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,840
saying cryptids are are high vibrational, but there certainly feel

1376
01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:51,239
much much more in tune with that. But with aliens,

1377
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:54,479
it's like when you're around somebody that's uplifting and you've

1378
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,760
got a lot to work on. If you see somebody

1379
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,920
again in the room with you and they're they're wealthy,

1380
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,399
they're happy, they're all these things, you might get angry.

1381
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,399
You might have a sense of anger because you're jealous

1382
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,399
because of all these things, and so that's something within

1383
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,800
you that you have to work on. So when you're

1384
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,680
around aliens or around any of the stuff, a lot

1385
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,840
of times they bring up things within us that make

1386
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:20,680
you know, the fears and resentments and angers, and so

1387
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,199
that stuff comes to the surface. Because like a magnet,

1388
01:19:24,319 --> 01:19:28,159
if you're vibrating really hard and you're not on the

1389
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:32,479
same wavelength as that vibration, it's going to cause disruption.

1390
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,279
And so that's what happens in our systems when we

1391
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:38,239
haven't done that work. And so again, when they find,

1392
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,399
you know, when they're connected with somebody or something that's

1393
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,800
more open to it, they are a lot more likely

1394
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,680
to have a positive outcome and say, you know, we

1395
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,000
want you to do this, or you're you know this

1396
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:53,399
will help you know, this is an intentional because we

1397
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:59,359
are very much connected to reality in the sense of

1398
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:05,319
so when I'm sitting there and I'm consciously choosing, I'm

1399
01:20:05,359 --> 01:20:10,359
a physical being unlike cryptids. Cryptids I swear and this

1400
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,960
is just maybe my interpretation, but they can phase in

1401
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,319
and out of physical reality. And that's just what I've noticed,

1402
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:20,560
whether it's sasquatch or dog man or any of these things.

1403
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,800
And some of them might have bad intentions, of course,

1404
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,520
like I'm not. You know, everything exists, you know, just

1405
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,000
like there's good and bad people, like all of that

1406
01:20:29,039 --> 01:20:35,720
stuff is absolutely true. But when a physical being connects

1407
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,760
in it is much more powerful to the whole because

1408
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,920
they're not as connected to the other side. So when

1409
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,800
you have a physical being taking physical actions and from

1410
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,560
a spiritual perspective, I think that that really helps. And

1411
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,279
so I'm sorry that was a long winded thing. You

1412
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:55,520
can you know, you don't have to, you know, it

1413
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,640
doesn't have to be what it is. But I truly

1414
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,159
believe that that for me was confirmation that hey, I'm

1415
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:05,399
here whether you know, just to bring joy, you know,

1416
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,560
and we had a heck of a trip. It was

1417
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,960
a wonderful trip. We you know, we had a great

1418
01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:12,800
time with family and we just brought happiness back to

1419
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,720
the land, like kids bring happiness to the world. So

1420
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,159
I just think kids are are very important, and it

1421
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:23,600
was a very good experience and we just had a

1422
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,039
lot of happiness on the trip.

1423
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness, you can look back on it and

1424
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,479
see it is a good pair of experiences instead of

1425
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,000
being haunted by them. And it sounds like your son

1426
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:37,399
took that experience and scried as well when he saw

1427
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,800
that first dog man. So as long as you can

1428
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,279
say that, that's definitely a good thing. Well, I'll tell

1429
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:45,000
you what, Brad. It's about time for us to get

1430
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:46,720
out of here. But before we do, do you have

1431
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,680
any clothes and comments you want to put out there

1432
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:49,079
for us.

1433
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,159
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for having me on.

1434
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,479
I'm hoping that this, you know, help you know, was entertaining,

1435
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,760
but also you know, really connects with you and uh,

1436
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:07,760
with anybody listening. I hope that, you know, maybe maybe

1437
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,520
they're not all bad. And I think that there's a

1438
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,199
lot of good in the world. And I think that

1439
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:19,079
it's important that you know, sometimes even if an experience

1440
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:23,119
might feel negative, that we really look at it and see,

1441
01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:25,880
you know, what is it there for? And uh and

1442
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,760
and again I had a it was a really cool

1443
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,600
experience for me and my family, and I was I

1444
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,079
was glad to have it, and uh, yeah, I think

1445
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:37,520
it's super cool. And if this interest you, just keep

1446
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,079
keep following it, you know. It's it's so fun to

1447
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,880
think about the stuff and talk about the stuff, and

1448
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,199
we need to be open about it. So again, thanks

1449
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:46,920
so much Vick for having me on.

1450
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome. Glad to give you a platform. Man,

1451
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,000
it's a given. I love the way you think, and

1452
01:22:53,319 --> 01:22:57,560
I hope you never change. I really do. But having

1453
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,960
said that, thanks again so much for your time, band.

1454
01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:03,119
I really do appreciate it. Then, have a great night.