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<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham the Great America and welcome to someone

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<v Speaker 1>ran the afternoon the tri State this Monday afternoon. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>god Reds Baseball is off, but back out of Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and Thursday against the Chicago White Sox, the favorite

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<v Speaker 1>team of Leo the fourteenth. There's fourteen again is the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago White Sox. In fact, I've you had some time

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<v Speaker 1>google Pope Leo at the White Sox game and Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports during a cutaway in between pitches in twenty oh

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<v Speaker 1>five when the White Sox were beating up on the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Astronomicals. At that point they were in the National League,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a cutout in which they had Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Leo the fourteenth in the stands cheering on the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>This is twenty years ago, sitting next to his brother

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<v Speaker 1>and his nephew. But until then, Jonah, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>now is Senator John Eustad of the Great State of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio and Senator Houstead. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we talk about drug pricing and tariffs, tariffs and

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<v Speaker 1>trade and Ukraine, Gaza, Indian Pakistan, give me your comments

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<v Speaker 1>on Leo the fourteenth, who's a fan of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox and also an Eagles fan. The White Sox

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<v Speaker 1>win the World Series, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your comments about the Pope?

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<v Speaker 2>We love the Pope, don't we. You know, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw something the other day. I thought this was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Is typical Chicago. They said, you know, we had Walter Payton,

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<v Speaker 2>they had Michael Jordan, they have Oprah Winfrey, Mike Dickka.

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<v Speaker 2>Now god, all from Chicago. So it was it's unbelievable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's Chicago, man, right there.

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<v Speaker 1>We have coming to America. We have the Olympics, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the World Cup, we have the Pope, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got Donald Trump. Those are the foreheads of.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Age, the Golden age of America.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm watching this and I watched the Trump so

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<v Speaker 1>this morning about drug costs, etc. So Senator to you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was some reporting that you were with

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<v Speaker 1>the President and the White House on Friday discussing this

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<v Speaker 1>issue with him. First of all, can you explain the

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<v Speaker 1>problem why we pay so much more than any country

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<v Speaker 1>in the world and what the Trump star is going.

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<v Speaker 2>To do about it? Yeah, quickly, I was at the

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<v Speaker 2>White House on Friday, because the President signed my first

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<v Speaker 2>bill into law, which is a regulatory repeal of biden

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<v Speaker 2>error regulations on household appliances, trying to we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>drive down the cost, give more consumer choice. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was there for that and he said, well, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about the prescription drug issue? And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he said, we need most Favored Nation status.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to pay the best prices that these drug

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<v Speaker 2>companies are given other countries, because we're subsidizing the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. And well, that's absolutely right. American taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 2>American consumers have been paying astronomically higher prices on prescription

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<v Speaker 2>drugs than the rest of the world. And he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it into that, by the way, not to

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<v Speaker 2>give America a better deal, just to give America a

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<v Speaker 2>fair deal, the same prices that everybody else is paying.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender wants to know, why do we pay five, six,

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<v Speaker 1>seven times more than any other country. We're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Africa, We're not talking about subse Ara. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Germany, England, France, Italy, talking about South Korea, China.

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<v Speaker 1>How come we pay so much?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no good reason. They will suggest that the drug

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<v Speaker 2>companies will suggest. I read them this morning that they said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because we have to pay for the R and D. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the R and D should be paid for by everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Spread it across the whole globe. Give Americans a fair

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<v Speaker 2>price on these drugs. I want to continue to support

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<v Speaker 2>research and development, but it shouldn't be completely on the

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<v Speaker 2>backs of the American consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, at some point to five or six drug companies

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<v Speaker 1>there's stocks this money afternoon are quite a bit down

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<v Speaker 1>because they recover all their expenses from the American consumer

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<v Speaker 1>and then they pass on the same drugs in the

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<v Speaker 1>same formula and the same packaging all around the world

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<v Speaker 1>at little or no expense. And it's one thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the middle of Africa that poor, those people

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<v Speaker 1>need help, but not the EU. There's twenty nine nations

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<v Speaker 1>in the EU that negotiate the price they pay for

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<v Speaker 1>all these miracle drugs that we create, and it's lower,

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<v Speaker 1>lower and lower. And the big farmer can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it because they think the puts the American consumer

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<v Speaker 1>will pay out landings prices for pharmaceuticals. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Medicare, Medicaid also, and the President said this morning

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to tell the congressional leaders has scored differently

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<v Speaker 1>the prescriptive drug expenses paid for by Medicare and Medicaid. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this may take three to six months. But for those

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<v Speaker 1>that are somewhat shall we say, not involved in this

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<v Speaker 1>or are thinking about other issues like do we have

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<v Speaker 1>enough Barbie dolls? I mean, if you're a six year

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<v Speaker 1>this is a national policy on drug costs with what

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<v Speaker 1>the real confidence do you think this is going to work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think that you know President's trend and executive order.

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<v Speaker 2>If you recall in the past, drug companies have sued

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<v Speaker 2>him when he tried this is his first term, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're successful at stopping him from doing it. But it's look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an example of leadership calling to attention and America

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<v Speaker 2>first policy. Again, he's talking about giving America as good

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<v Speaker 2>of a deal as Canada and Germany. You know, not

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<v Speaker 2>about as you said, sub Saharan Africa. It's not about

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest price. This is just this is actually we

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<v Speaker 2>want to pay the highest price that everybody else pays.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not exactly a radical, crazy move by the president.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It is a common sense move by the

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<v Speaker 2>President to say American consumers and taxpayers shouldn't be on

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<v Speaker 2>the hook for R and D for drug companies around

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<v Speaker 2>the globe. And we're going to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pushback from from the companies in the court. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is it's time that we healthcare inflation is the

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<v Speaker 2>highest of any sector of the economy in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century, and we've got to start pushing back on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what these conversations about medicaid have been about. How

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to control the prices that are un

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<v Speaker 1>No, we can't keep doing this. Since twenty nineteen, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of medical care to the federal government's gone

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<v Speaker 1>up forty percent, and the last five years forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that another five years another forty percent. Hell, we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of business. Let's talk about the big bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go ahead, thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We're

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<v Speaker 2>paying over a trillion dollars a year in interest payments

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<v Speaker 2>on it. It's not sustainable. America needs to stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>financing the rest of the world. We need to be

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<v Speaker 2>treated fairly and we need to not pass on this

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<v Speaker 2>debt to future generations. That's generational theft bill and we

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't stand for it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the big beautiful bill in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the China situation, The President said this morning

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<v Speaker 1>he has an agreement from the communist red Chinese to

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<v Speaker 1>quit killing about one hundred thousand Americans every year through

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<v Speaker 1>the precursors defense Noel itself. They're also to quit ripping

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<v Speaker 1>us off. Our products can't get there, but their products

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<v Speaker 1>get here. What's the key parts of the agreement? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose with communists right China, who I trust as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can throw them on the tariff relief

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<v Speaker 1>in order to let our products go into China and

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese products have to pay a price to come into America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have not had a chance to go through

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<v Speaker 2>all the details yet. Basically, there's a sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>ninety day pause to continue to work on some of

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<v Speaker 2>these agreements. I think the top tariff rates now going

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<v Speaker 2>to be thirty percent for Chinese products coming into America.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's ten percent for American products going into China.

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<v Speaker 2>But this has been a long time in commune, since

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<v Speaker 2>China entered the World Trade Organization in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been ripping off not only America but the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world through unfair trade practices and stealing our

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<v Speaker 2>technology and American businesses. When I visit with the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>they say, yes, if you don't stand up for US

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<v Speaker 2>federal government, who will Because we have no recourse in

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese courts the way that a Chinese company would

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<v Speaker 2>in the American courts. They steal our stuff, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything about it. And President Trump has come in

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<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, we're not going to tolerate it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No president before him was willing to stand up to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's time that we get this accomplished on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of the American consumer and taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Senator used.

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<v Speaker 2>To the American business for that man.

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<v Speaker 1>American business. I watched the performances of Canadian Kevin o'larry

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<v Speaker 1>from Shark Tank about the amount of theft by the

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<v Speaker 1>communist red Chinese of American ideas, American personnel, American it.

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<v Speaker 1>The theft absolutely happening, and there's no recourse. Somebody can't

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<v Speaker 1>go to a court in Beijing and sue for theft

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<v Speaker 1>of IP etc. But in America they're buying up farm

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<v Speaker 1>land all around our air force bases. It's got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one thing, Senator is the communist red

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans would like

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<v Speaker 1>to run out the clock. They're kind of hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>the next president is going to be a Pritzer and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just waiting to all right, quiet down, the American

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna have mid term elections.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chinese don't worry about mid term elections. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>worried about the idea between the media and the democratic

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<v Speaker 1>establishment and the Congress and minority leaders in both being Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna The Chinese might say, let's run out

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<v Speaker 1>the clock and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you're making an excellent point right there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt that China doesn't have to respond to

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<v Speaker 2>an electorate. They can take as long as they want

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<v Speaker 2>to negotiate. They can drag this out. This has been

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<v Speaker 2>one of the problems that that American presidents have had

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<v Speaker 2>in negotiating with these dictators in authoritarian governments is that

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<v Speaker 2>they can be there as long as they want. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to cut a deal. We have to be

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<v Speaker 2>answerable as public officials to the American public, and and

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<v Speaker 2>that happens every two in four years. So we've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to we've got to go quickly. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I think President's seeing a sense of urgency on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say just a couple of quick stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll use this one example. There was a there was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy in Dover, Ohio who said, Hey, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to sell my products to Asia that I wanted to sell.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm selling them, I'm making them in America, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to sell into Asia, and I had to produce

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<v Speaker 2>it in Asia. China had me produce it there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>to sell into China. And then the next thing, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>a product that's exactly like mine has been copied and

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<v Speaker 2>it's being selled and sold in China and across Asia.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I have no recourse. They just stole my

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<v Speaker 2>product and now they're making it there. Somebody needs to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up for me. That's the kind of stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>this is about protecting American businesses. UH, standing up to

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<v Speaker 2>the bullies who basically China has said, hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna give we want access to your markets. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to give you access to our markets. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to steal your technology when we can uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to stop. And you're right, we can't let

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<v Speaker 2>him run out the clock, though, We've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>Senator, this is an important point that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's to address this morning. I had a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>and Chinese came to him. Instead of you spending twenty

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<v Speaker 1>produce the mop for two dollars and you still sell

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<v Speaker 1>it for forty nine to ninety five, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>finance a lot of your activities. My friend said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's a great idea. Instead of producing it

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<v Speaker 1>here at ten times the expense, I'll produce it in

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<v Speaker 1>China and then one day after about six months, and

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<v Speaker 1>then producing it China went directly to the customers of

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy out of the business completely, had a foul bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 1>They stole the intellectual property. There was no way that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a small example what the communist red Chinese are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they do it to millions of products every day.

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<v Speaker 1>The undercut the market, capture it and then raise up

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<v Speaker 2>That is a perfect example, and it's unfortunately it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a rare example. This happens to people with ideas and manufacture,

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<v Speaker 2>small business owners. It has for twenty five years. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time for it to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about the big beautiful bill that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to hopefully be passed. I know even John Fetterman has

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<v Speaker 1>a few lucid moments recently. Tell the American people. Senator

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<v Speaker 1>John houstaid, what's the two or three elements and the

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<v Speaker 1>big beautiful bill that you're going to vote for?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, Well, I'm hopeful that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>Because it'll be over a four trillion dollar tax increase

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<v Speaker 2>on the American public. If we don't get it done,

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<v Speaker 2>that's number one. Number two, I'm hopeful that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to restore some fiscal sanity to the spending problem that

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<v Speaker 2>America has and begin to move toward a more balanced budget.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I hope to do some good thing for

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio in there, like changing the way that our welfare

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<v Speaker 2>public benefits. I hope that we can end sugary snacks

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<v Speaker 2>and drinks in our SNAP program that's leading to obesity

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<v Speaker 2>can lease afford it. So those are the things that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to do in the big beautiful bill that

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we can get past and on the President's

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<v Speaker 1>What if you don't, But what if somehow the red

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<v Speaker 1>Republican congressman went more salt state and local taxes deductions.

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<v Speaker 1>What if other Republicans say, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>increase the deficit borrowing by another five trillion dollars. There's

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<v Speaker 1>reasons to do it. You have a very thin majority

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<v Speaker 1>in both chambers. What happens to the taxpayer if it

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<v Speaker 2>The taxes will go up on the American taxpayer by

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<v Speaker 2>four trillion dollars. That's why I think it'll get done. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be plenty of things in this bill I

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<v Speaker 2>won't like, but you know that you've got to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the big you know, the big picture here. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there going to be a lot more in it that

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<v Speaker 2>I liked and not like? Yes, of course there will be.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't let taxes go up on the American taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>by four trillion dollars. We can't make American business less competitive,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't tax working families more. And so that's why

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get it done. And people will grumble

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<v Speaker 2>and mumble, and they'll complain about this or that and

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing. But in the end, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>Are you endorsing on different matter? Are you endorsing viveg

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<v Speaker 1>Ramaswami for governor? You might know that on Friday you

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<v Speaker 1>received one hundred percent of the vote of the Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Executive Committee as an endorsement, and so did viveg Ramaswami.

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<v Speaker 1>I think got ninety five percent of the votes. Are

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<v Speaker 2>The BAK and I have been working together very closely.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to running on the same ticket with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to be very successful, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that over the course of the next few months we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have some things to team up on and talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the Ohio voters about. So I'm excited to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the same ticket with him, hopefully driving for more Republican

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<v Speaker 2>victories in twenty twenty six to keep this state on track,

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<v Speaker 2>and to also make you know, make sure that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has a Republican team to work with as we

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<v Speaker 1>And last, Lady Senator John Houstead of the Great State

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. Do you see this as a rebuke to

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Mike DeWine, who told his own executive committee not

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<v Speaker 2>Look a people, this is we have disagreements. When you

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<v Speaker 2>are part of the majority, it's hard to keep everybody

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<v Speaker 2>at the same page. I would say a majority is

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<v Speaker 2>made up of many voices. If we want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a minority, we can all get along and never disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we want to be in a majority. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we will disagree, but in the end we will come together,

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<v Speaker 2>we will unite, and we will win in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, once again, the junior center from Ohio is

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<v Speaker 1>Senator John Houston. I'm glad you're with the President on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday because we can have to stop bearing all the

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<v Speaker 1>costs of prescriptive drugs and give it, give it away

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world, and Trumpster can get

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<v Speaker 1>it done. Once again, Senator John Houston, welcome, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Bill Cunningham Show, and John,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Thanks Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more coming up my comments about the

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<v Speaker 1>new Pope and also about the big beautiful Bill, and

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