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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, this is Chad checking in from Sunny Philippines,

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the land of eighties karaoke, and you are listening to

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the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. Hello everybody, and

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welcome back to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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Shirley fans, we have an amazing, exciting episode for you today.

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This is literally an album that we racked our brains

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for months trying to come up with something to compare

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it to. And only by comparing the movies did we

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find a way to compare two legitimately incredible albums of

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nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: They're two of the best sellers of nineteen eighty four.

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Purple Rain is one of the best sellers of all time. Yes,

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and actually we are recording this today on June twenty fifth,

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twenty twenty one. It is the thirty seventh anniversary of

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the release of the soundtrack of the movie Peple Rain.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to hear it for a couple of weeks,

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but we are just blessed by divinity to have gotten

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here today. Just I mean, we decide two days ago,

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let's just record this on Friday, and boom, it happened

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to be the exact day that was released.

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Speaker 2: There's a legitimate case to be made that this is

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the best album of the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Possibly, there's a legitimate case this is the best album

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of all time. I mean, it's it's jump backs, it's incredible. Yes,

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all right, how'd you like to waste some time?

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Speaker 2: I cannot resist.

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Speaker 1: It's really gross. It's not right now, it's not Let

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this jo goo any first.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to stop until I reached the top.

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Let's dive into Purple Rain. Track by track.

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Speaker 1: Purple Rain. All right, Before we jump into our first track,

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we need to know that this album was produced, arranged,

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and composed by Prince and the Revolution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first album that the Revolution gets any

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kind of credit.

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Speaker 1: Well, on nineteen ninety nine, in the album cover he

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wrote like backwards in like one of the letters the Revolution.

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But this is the one that they actually in the

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album notes they get full credit. Okay, cool, Now, Prince

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primarily is the composer of all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: This album won two Grammy Awards and an Academy Award.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This won the Academy Award for Best Original Song Score

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for the movie Purple Rain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so before we jump in Okay, let's talk

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album cover. We typically do that. Yeah, iconic album cover. Yes,

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Prince on his motorcycle in New York City. Except it's

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not in New York City. It's a back lot at

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Warner Brothers Studios on Hennessy Street, but made to look

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like one of the tenements in New York City. Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I just figured it was Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, no, yeah, there's not Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: It is not New York City.

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Speaker 1: It's Yeah, it's the back lot of Warner Brothers. I'm

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wondering if they took this picture after they went to

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La to reshoot the skinny Dip in the Lake Mini

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talka scenes with her when she got so sick after

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the jumping in the water. Probably so Minneapolis winter, Probably so.

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Speaker 2: Just for the record, Yeah, on this record, Yes, thirteen

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times platinum, over twenty five million units sold. Wow, twenty

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five million. I think it was like standard issue to

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everybody in my fourth grade class. I mean just everybody

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got a copy of Proble Rank.

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, so did you have

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this because you've talked routinely about how your dad would

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check your song list, and I don't see how the

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no this was a forgore filthy fifteen soundtrack would have

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made it fast at your dad.

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Speaker 2: This one did not pass inspection at the Calvin household.

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Speaker 1: So this was under the table.

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Speaker 2: This was under the table for sure.

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Speaker 1: Recording songs off the radio, getting stuff from friends.

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Speaker 2: Mostly recording stuff off the radio was how I got

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ahold of this, right, Darling Nikki at my house was against.

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Speaker 1: The rules for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, let's dive in, track by track, track.

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Speaker 1: By track, best freaking song for the first song on

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the album Let's Go Crazy, and.

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Speaker 2: This may be the greatest entry song of any album

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in the nineteen eighties. The intro to this song is

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I'm saying this song like the first track on any

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album in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is my favorite song on the album. Okay,

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it's one of the greatest albums of the eighties, So

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potentially this is the greatest song of the eighties. It's

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in the conversation. It is definitely in the conversation. We

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start with this amazing organ we have dearly beloved, as

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though we're here at a funeral for this thing called life.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I walk by a hot mic or wherever I am,

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it doesn't matter, I find a hot mic, I don't

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do check check check, I do daily Beloved a gay

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that hit to day. Yeah, it just.

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Speaker 1: Comes out, Yeah, and you're locked into every word, right you.

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You are wondering what it is he's talking about. I mean,

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if this is your first time to hear the song,

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you're like, what is going on here? What's on this

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rock album? And so you're totally bought in. And then

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the drum comes in just before the organ fades out,

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and then you get this awesome guitar PowerCore. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: This is an amazing song.

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Speaker 1: And it's about God and the devil of all things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the Christian overtones to this song.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So going crazy and going for a higher floor

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is about God. I mean, you can't just say God

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in a song, so you have to disguise it as something,

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and so going crazy and going higher that's about God.

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And then the elevator. It's not just the elevator.

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Speaker 2: I thought was the elevator for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Prince has you know, you can see it

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in his song titles like I would die for you,

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Nothing compares to you, like he abbreviates you and uses

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the numeral too for the word two all the time,

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like even when he's handwriting notes. That book that I

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told you I read, the beautiful Ones, it was. It

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was largely composed from notes that he had written. They

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left it in. I mean, he would draw the picture

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of an I like a blinking eye for the word I,

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like I would yes, yes, And so that's how that

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book is written. So D Elevator was the way that

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he wrote the lyrics. He didn't write it the elevator.

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It was devil, and devil got translated into D elevator

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because the devil brings you down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. One of the things that we should mention

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that anytime we say the words four or two or

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you please, when you're listening at home, just substitute the

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numbers or the big letter.

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Speaker 1: Make it as short as you can, pretend like your

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teenager is texting you. Prince set thet age in the

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early eighties on how to communicate my text.

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Speaker 2: That's good, Okay, So I want to talk about the

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lyrics on this. This is something I just just discovered.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So you have that big intro, the sort of eulogy

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Speaker 1: George Clinton style.

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Speaker 2: Okay, doctor, everything gonna be all right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, Yeah, But at the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: Of the song, he says, I call my old lady

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for a friendly word. She picked up the phone, dropped

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it on the floor, right, Yes, And in the lyrics

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it says in parentheses sex sex was all I heard.

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Speaker 1: He definitely, throughout all of his work equates sex and god.

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It's kind of weird. It is. It's a little bit weird. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this song was released July eighteenth, nineteen eighty four.

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This is right before the movie is dropped. In our

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preceding episode about how wind Dove's cry was blowing the

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roof off, Yes, he drops this one, Yes, takes it

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at notch is even higher and it's all right before

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the movie drops, and definitely helped propel the movie to

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its success. This reached number one on the Hot one

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hundred September twenty ninth, nineteen eighty four, the second number

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one song in a row from this album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this one. Interesting things happened with Prince's stuff after

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he passed away. Bruno Mars, do you remember did you

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see the twenty seventeen Grammys? I remember watching them like

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lead out show was Bruno Mars, dressed in the old

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purple Rain regalia, and he played the song, and I

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gotta say I was a little nervous when it's he

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did a pretty darn good job.

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Speaker 2: Bruno Mars is about the only guy I can think

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of that could pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did it well. It was respectful, well played, well sung.

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He's a talent guy. But later on the song was

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used in a Capital one commercial and like Prince would

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never ever, ever let something like that happen. I mean

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I almost couldn't get his music before he passed away.

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I mean it was on Spotify. You couldn't get it anywhere.

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You can get it anywhere, and so it was nice

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that it was more accessible like once he passed away,

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which you know, I hate to say that, but then

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have Capital One, whoever's running the estate, that said, okay,

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Capital One, you can use this song. That was shocking

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and disheartening about what was being done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this song is actually shortened. When you watch the movie,

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he plays a long version and it's our intro. You know,

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we talked about the Godfather scene. Yeah, and you have

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a part where he kind of does this weird piano thing.

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had to trim it up to make sure everything fit,

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and so they had to do some cuts. They cut

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this one along with the Beautiful Ones and Computer Believe,

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but they cut out that middle piano part, which I

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didn't think was any good anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that part of the movie. But I

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gotta say my favorite part of this whole song is

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the cello at the end. The guitar solo maybe my

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favorite guitar solo of all time. He kills it and

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he's he does like with almost that he does with

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his whole album. He is merging the psychedelic with this

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classic blues rock style and it is buyer.

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Speaker 2: You are one hundred percent of the money with that.

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To me, this is a pop song with awesome guitar

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similar I think in spirit to like beat it, yeah,

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very much. Beat it as a pop song with Eddie

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van Halen just shredded.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and from the song, not the song alone, but

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I mean just knowing the man. He doesn't come up

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in the conversation when you're talking about the greatest guitarists

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of all time, but he probably should. Yeah, he just

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was such a rounded musician in everything, and such an

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incredible composer and lyricist and performer you just don't realize. Hey,

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he's phenomenal. I mean, you've seen the my guitar gently

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weeps video that that Tom Petty did, and he comes

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in with that solo at the end and it's just

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holy cow, he can still just shred away like he's

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Eddie van Halen, Like you say, you walk by a

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mic and you're saying, dearly beloved. If this guitar solo

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is I'm gonna stop whatever I'm doing, I get on

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my knees, I'm gonna way away on the air guitar,

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so good man. And the end is that Dann that's

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like a hundred blues songs in that way, but he

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does something so much more with that end. Oh it's

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too good.

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Speaker 2: And you have the big tyke yep. So that blew

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our doors off.

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Speaker 1: Out the out of the gate fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And then it drops us into this beautiful soft pop

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song called take Me with You.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we start with this drum and synthesizer thing

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that's almost frantic, like it's just what's going on. It's

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like a you know, the panic scene in some movie

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and then it transitions into this. It's like we're going

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for a walk in the park.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's unconfirmed, but the urban legend is that

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Sheila at the beginning of the song.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it definitely has her sound, for sure, definitely has

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her sound. So this one he had written for Apollonia six.

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Apollonia is singing the co lead in this. She's the

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she's the female voice that we hear. But they didn't

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to take it out of the Appollonia six album.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Abrabanguli came to Prince and said, hey, we

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need something to go with the montage of the love

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scene where the romances blooming and they're hanging out and

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they're having fun and they're getting to know each other.

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And he's like, well, that's great, I got this song

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right here. I'm just going to take it right back

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from Apollonia that was gonna go on her album, uh huh.

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And he started to pull stuff from her. Originally it

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was Vanity six, yes, and then Apollonia is more of

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an actress, you know. So from that album.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was thinking about this today she still sings. Well,

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I mean, he's not gonna. I don't know that she's

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going to be a star singer sometime, but she's not

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a bad singer.

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Speaker 2: Her album Listen, her album had Manic Monday, The Glamorous Life,

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and Take Me with You.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she could have.

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Speaker 2: Gone a different direction.

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Speaker 1: She could have that's true.

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Speaker 2: He didn't take those songs away from him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So this.

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Speaker 2: Was released January twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five. This reached

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number twenty five on the Hot one hundred. This is

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Chris Rock's favorite print song.

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Speaker 1: This song has got strings in it, one of the

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first times we hear strings in Prince's music. These were

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not synthesized strings. These were live string musicians and Novi

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Novag usually just call her nov but she's one of

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the players in this.

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Speaker 2: I heard that the strings were arranged by Wendy and Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Lisa Coleman is a classically trained pianist. There's

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actually I remember this that when she met Prince, she

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met him and his dad at the same time, and

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they're like, okay, we'll play a song for it. She's

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like okay, and she starts playing and they're like, so,

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what's the point in really learning technique? It's not really necessary,

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is it. And she's like, by a learning technique, you're

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able to play any and every style of music. And

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they're like, oh, and it totally changed the way that

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Prince approached learning music. All right, awesome, this little story

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from The Beautiful Ones.

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Speaker 2: Nice, Okay, all right, we done with this one, yep?

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Moving on, all right, moving on to track number three.

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This song is called the Beautiful Ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the song that he's singing to

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Apollonia whenever she's with Morris Day in the club and

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he's trying to get her to come back, and it's

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also like a challenge to him. And it's interesting because

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he actually probably wrote this for that same reason, but

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with different people involved. Yeah. So supposedly this was supposed

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to be a song written for Susannah Melvoy, who's Wendy's

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twin sister, right right, That was the story for a

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long time, and she had a boyfriend when they first met,

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and so maybe it is that kind of thing of

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leave him come with me. But in twenty fifteen, just

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a year before he passed, he gave an interview and

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he said, this song was for Vanity. Now, if you

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know the story of how he met Vanity for the

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first time, she was with Rick James. I think it

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was at the Grammys or something like that. And Rick

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James comes within with Vanity and you know, she's just

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this B movie actress, but he falls in love with

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her on site. And so it's possible that Vanity is

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at the Apollonia and Rick James. Rick James is the

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Morris Day.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And interestingly, I'd like to see if Dave Chappelle play

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that whole scenario out, because that.

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Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle malls in your core. Buddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this song to me is enhanced.

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Speaker 1: By the movie. Okay, Oh yeah, So the.

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Speaker 2: Performance that he gives in the movie, like you said,

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he's singing directly to her heart, and you know, it

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hits those screams and it's intense at the end, and

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it's emotion and it's do you want him or do

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you want me? Because I want you? And I just

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think it's one of those where when I saw the movie,

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I thought this is a great song.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So the beginning of the song starts off

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with these drums. It's got a similar sound almost to

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the drum sound in the air tonight. But this was

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an LM one drum machine, and back then there weren't

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very many of them. They cost about five thousand each,

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so not a whole lot of folks had them. He

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had taken that drum machine and he would run it

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through his guitar effects pedals, and he had kind of

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made his own drum sounds by using the effects that

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he would use on the guitar, which is how it

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has that kind of echoe effect at the beginning. So

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he kind of kept using what was old technology because

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he had made it his own.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. This song actually replaced another song called Electric Intercourse

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that was scheduled to be on the Purple Raine soundtrack.

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But like this one better, and I think that's a

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good call. I've heard Electric Intercourse and it's not half

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the song. This one is this one that has been

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covered by Mariah Carey and Beyonce. We talked in our

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def Leppard episode about Mariah Carey covering Bringing On the Heartbreak,

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and I thought it doesn't really work. But her version

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of this song is actually good. All right, everybody, I

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just want to formally invite you to come over and

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listen to our side project, the podcast Bull of crypt

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Tonight with mister John Reid from the thirty seventy movie

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podcast and of course you and me meanwhile at the

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Hall of.

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Speaker 1: Justice, we are the super Friends. That's right.

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Speaker 2: We cover the TV show Superman and Lois. We go

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over every episode. We have a great time, and John

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knows so much about Superman it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: If you love Superman, or even if you don't, you

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just want to learn more, come check it out. And

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if you haven't watched Superman and Lois yet, you need

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to right now crawl out of your fortress of solitude

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and turn the TV on.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Bull of cryptoback, moving on, Moving on. Next song

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on the album is a song called Computer Blue, when

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we yes, Lisa, is the water warm?

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Speaker 5: Yes Lisa?

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Speaker 2: Shall we begin, Yes Lisa?

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Speaker 1: And then we have Wendy and Lisa conjuring up images

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in young boys minds back in the eighties of what

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the water was going to be used for.

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Speaker 2: All I know is that the idea of Wendy and

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Lisa in the bathtub was enough to spiral my mind.

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Speaker 1: Out of control an eleven year old. So then we

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jump into this horrendous scream and a entirely different sound.

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But it is fantastic. It's very computerized, it's very synthesizer heavy,

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and it's about the relationship of humans and computers.

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Speaker 2: Interesting at a time when that was on people's minds,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, This one involved more of the band in

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its composition. The keyboard bassline was something that doctor Fink

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had come up with.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, and.

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Speaker 1: He started playing at one of their sessions. The band

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kind of joined in and jammed over it, and Prince

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was like, I like this, and he I mean for

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the for what the song became. He brought in the

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bridge from this song that he had called Father's Song

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that was written by his dad, John L. Nelson. It

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was originally a much longer song before they put in

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Gwindov's cry and take Me with You.

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Speaker 2: We got to listen to the part where he plays

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on his guitar, that piano part that his father wrote.

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Let's do it right here. It's kind of interesting that

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Prince's dad gets a credit on the writing of this song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's really neat. Whole band gets credit

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and John L. Nelson. Okay, so this song was originally

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like seven minutes and thirty seconds long, and I think

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there's like a twelve minute version as well, and when

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they I think they've released that longer version as well.

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There's a hallway speech. Oh yeah, yeah, so he's like

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going down the hallway and each of the doors lead

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to different emotions, and it's considered by Prince fans as

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like one of the best parts of the song that

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we didn't even see for a long time, but because

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they got to see it in the live shows, they

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were like, oh, this is a great part of the song,

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but it never made it in the album.

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Speaker 2: I saw an interview with Wendy Melbourne, right, and it

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was actually The Revolution minus Prince after his death, and

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they were asking her. They're like, what's the deal with

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you know, Wendy, Yes, Lisa is the water warming up?

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Speaker 1: Yes Lisa? Right.

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Speaker 2: They were asking her directly, what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: She's like, well, he.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to do something kind of alluring with that, and

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so he's like here say this. They're like, okay, all right,

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there's the water warming up, you know. Yeah, and he

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just thought that was kind of a cool, sexy hook.

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Speaker 1: So well. Acting chops go as they do. H Wendy's

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probably got the better, the better acting chops, the yes,

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the very computerized. Could we do it a little less

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like a zombie this time? Please?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Wendy does a great job in Purple Rain when

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she tells Lisa to shut up, shut up, Lisa was like,

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she said that before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's feisty. I like her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are we done with computer Blue?

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Speaker 1: Listen?

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Speaker 2: This is a great song. Yeah, but for me, it's

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the weakest song on the album.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah, it's more of an underlying soundtrack song

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than a song I want to go listen to.

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Speaker 2: It's a great song, but it's not mind blowingly great,

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which from this point forward, they're all amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we've got a tentpole song obviously at the beginning,

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and a tentpole song at the end of side one. Darling, Nikki,

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I'm sorry, Jason, I have to stop this now. You're

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not allowed to listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Tipper Gore says, press pause on your tape player, kick

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it out and go tell your mom you're grounded.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Tipper Gore catches her eleven year old daughter,

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Carina listening to this song and she's like she doing

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what with a magazine? I remember hearing that line and

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I was like, that sounds painful. You get paper cuts

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or something. Oh, she's looking at the magazine. Makes so

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much more. This was the song that led Tipper Gore

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on her crusade where she started the Parents Music Resource Center,

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which ultimately led to parental Advisory stickers and a list

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of songs that you're not allowed to hear.

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Speaker 2: You are exactly right, let's not gloss over that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The reason why we have those parental advisory stickers on

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every CD now, Yeah, of course nobody buys CDs anymore.

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It's because this song.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so this song wasn't released as a single, but

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it hit number one on the Filthy fifteen charts. Right,

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this is the this is the top worst song that

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the Parents Music Resource Center had on their list.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, this song committed a couple of sents, okay,

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parental sins. I should say Nikki was a sex fiend.

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Speaker 1: Yes we know that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It also had back masking. Oh yes, which was you know,

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the Devil's work back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except that if you actually listen to the back

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masking backwards. It says, hello, how are you fine? Fine?

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Because I know that the Lord is coming soon, coming,

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coming soon. Kind of an interesting uh flip?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean you have Christian overtones on a

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song called Darling Nicky.

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Speaker 1: I told you man, he equates the two. But thank

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you Tipper Gore for giving us stickers so that we

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would know what the album was we wanted to find

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when we were tea.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We talked about the Filthy fifteen back when

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we did ac DC and their song let Me Put

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My Love into You.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, though, Darling Nicky maybe one of the most controversial

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songs in the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Turns out Karina Gore went on to seminary and

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is now actually a professor at the seminary school like

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a dean. Maybe, so she made it okay, Well, you know,

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we all keep it if she listened to Darling NICKI no, well,

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that's good.

471
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that one.

472
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:10,599
Speaker 5: You know.

473
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: In two thousand and one, when Prince got serious about

474
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,799
his Jehovah's Witness faith, he moved away from songs like

475
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:22,400
that and this one in particular. He would not play

476
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,039
this when live, and in fact, I listened to a

477
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,519
guy and he went to a Prince concert and Prince

478
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,599
started the song and everybody's like, here it is, and

479
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,440
He's like, no, I can't. I'm not going to play

480
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:34,880
that one for you.

481
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh man. He stopped playing put it on the shelf

482
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,640
yep for six years, played it again in two thousand

483
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,039
and seven.

484
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

485
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, sounds good time to hit stop on

486
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,680
your tape player.

487
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: Kick it out, flip it over side two for Purple Rain.

488
00:26:49,279 --> 00:27:19,960
This song is when doves cry.

489
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna be naked in a bath tub? Sorry.

490
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,759
As a throwback to our Sign of the Times episodes,

491
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,680
go check that out. Another amazing song.

492
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:33,559
Speaker 2: The guitar at the beginning. This gives me chills.

493
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: So this one. Do you know how this came about?

494
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,279
Tell me. Albert Magnoli, the director of the movie, was like, hey,

495
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,799
we need music to go over the parents fighting with

496
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,799
each other in this awkward relationship, and Prince is like, okay,

497
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,680
I'll go write back. And it's supposed to be partially

498
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,119
inspired by his relationship with Susan Moonsee, who is a

499
00:27:52,160 --> 00:28:11,200
member of Vanity six and Apolloni six. Right, it looked

500
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480
out the leads and that's the same girl. By the way,

501
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,000
why six there's three girls? I can think of just

502
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:19,359
a few things that there's six of. And they were

503
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,240
prominently displayed in the live show. Yes, their eyes, their

504
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:30,000
ears something anyway, So he writes this song and Jill Jones,

505
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,079
who had performed with him on Wednesday, which was a

506
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,960
song that was supposed to be on this album, she's

507
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,599
the one that says it sounds too conventional. In the conversation.

508
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,480
The idea was take out the bass, and so we

509
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:45,880
have this song that becomes a number one hit and

510
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,759
becomes the best selling single of nineteen eighty four, and

511
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,160
it has no bass.

512
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: That's really the big story on this. There is no bass.

513
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 1: When they play the show live, there is a bassline.

514
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:01,400
He does play the bass when it's live. And not

515
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,599
only was it interesting because of this, but then we

516
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,359
have the video, which is weird. It's Prince crawling naked

517
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,440
on the ground out of the bathtub with doves flying

518
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,319
around him. And he's the one that directed it. Prince

519
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,960
directed this video, but it's controversial because of some strong

520
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:19,119
sexual overtimes.

521
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: This was the song of the summer of nineteen eighty four.

522
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:36,920
We talked to our Huey Lewis episode where I'm like,

523
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,200
you know, if this was it was like huge for

524
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,920
me the summer of eighty four. But this song reached

525
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,400
number one on July seventh, nineteen eighty four, and was

526
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,079
number one for five weeks. It owned that summer and

527
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,559
it was like on my local radio station, they played

528
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:52,559
it every album. Is it a pop song, is it

529
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,279
a guitar song? Is it both? Is it something we've

530
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,200
never heard before? It's amazing, It's incredible.

531
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,599
Speaker 1: So because this came along later on, because their request

532
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,240
for the song came later on, this one that was

533
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:09,599
not performed by the Revolution for the album. This was

534
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:13,440
all prints wrote, it played it, played every instrument on it. Yeah.

535
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: He had actually finished the soundtrack. I think they may

536
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,119
have even started the initial pressings of it, and he

537
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,319
came in he said, guys, I got one more song,

538
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,279
and they were like, no, we've we've barely fit everything

539
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,400
in there as it is, and he's like, no, you're

540
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,119
going to want this.

541
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:27,599
Speaker 1: One on there.

542
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,319
Speaker 2: You think, wow, the number one single in nineteen eighty four.

543
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: How many stories have we told were the last song

544
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,279
to come up in the process? Is the best song

545
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,680
on the album. Yeah, this one is certainly. I mean,

546
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,000
it's the best selling single of nineteen eighty four.

547
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: It may be the best song of nineteen eighty four.

548
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:49,200
In a year where the competition is incredibly high.

549
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,599
Speaker 1: And this one they changed the rules on how to

550
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,799
get a platinum single. Before they changed the rules to

551
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,000
make it easier, this was the last single to reach

552
00:30:58,079 --> 00:30:58,960
platinum steps.

553
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell talk to you about this. Okay.

554
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,440
We've talked about how this song is sounds different. There's

555
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,680
no baseline. You know, You've got two different solos, and

556
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,799
you've got these sort of weird sounds at the end.

557
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640
He's kind of doing some weird vocalization at the end. Yeah,

558
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,440
and it's five and a half minutes long. It's a

559
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,759
risky choice for the first single because we talked about it.

560
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,960
If it bombs out of the gate, do they market

561
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,160
purple Rain like crazy?

562
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

563
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: I would have thought that Let's Go Crazy would have

564
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,240
been a much safer choice for the first single. Absolutely,

565
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:31,039
But this one comes out and it is a huge smash.

566
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: Huge smash number one, followed by another number one, followed

567
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,400
by the movie Of Course, It's going to do well.

568
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,599
This is why the movie. I mean, we talked about

569
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,079
it before. There's no reason this movie should have been

570
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,640
a success other than this album coming out first and

571
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,559
these two songs being the lead singles.

572
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: The video is like an ad for the movie, I.

573
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: Mean absolutely absolutely. Okay. So before we finish up with it,

574
00:31:53,079 --> 00:32:12,119
we've got to talk about this last synthesizer solo. Okay. So,

575
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,160
as I mentioned, Prince did all of the instrumentation on

576
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,720
this right well, he slowed down the track to half speed,

577
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,799
lowered it an octave, and then sped it back up

578
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,480
to get it. Swear it's the same sound. It fits

579
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,960
the sound correctly, right, smart, very smart. But doctor Fink

580
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,519
then had to learn how to full speed whenever they

581
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:35,279
did their live show.

582
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Good luck with that, dude.

583
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: When you hear this, you have to be playing the

584
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,680
air piano on your dashboard or your steering wheel or

585
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440
whatever wherever you are. You're doing that little keyboard bit

586
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:46,880
with your finger for sure.

587
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: One percent. Okay. You know what else was a huge

588
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,279
hit in nineteen eighty four, Dancing in the Dark Vibrus Springsteen. Yes,

589
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,480
only made it to number two because it could not

590
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,839
push this one out of the way.

591
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,759
Speaker 1: Couldn't Unsea when Dove's cry I hate to leave it.

592
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: It literally maybe the best song in the nineteen eighties.

593
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,519
Speaker 1: There really is. But the good news is the next

594
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:17,960
song is I Would Die for you. Greater love has

595
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,279
no one than this, to lay down one's life for

596
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:22,079
one's friends.

597
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,759
Speaker 2: John fifteen thirteen and quoting scripture, Well, that's what this.

598
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Song is about. It is so good. It's I am

599
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,359
something you'll never understand. It is, I'm willing to lay

600
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,759
down my life for you. And you know what, it's

601
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,880
such a happy, great song. It's a good way to

602
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,759
have a Hollywood end to a otherwise pretty dark movie.

603
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,319
Speaker 2: It's an amazing pop song.

604
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

605
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: And like you said in the movie, after we reached

606
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,839
that emotional peak of Purple Rain where Purple Rain comes in,

607
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,200
he plays it. It clears the deck, It solves all

608
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,160
the problems that it is the awesome climax.

609
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,279
Speaker 1: Of Purple Rain.

610
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,319
Speaker 2: Then you finish with two super fun songs. Have this

611
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,359
song and then the next song we're going to talk about,

612
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:06,480
and it's just good old fashioned, awesome pop fun.

613
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think when he did, when he had his conversion,

614
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,199
he stopped saying I'm the Messiah. I think he started saying.

615
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,760
When he would sing it live, he would say piece

616
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,599
in the side.

617
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:30,079
Speaker 2: Yep. This song was released November twenty fourth, nineteen eighty four.

618
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,599
This reached number eight on the Hot one hundred.

619
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: How did this song only get to number eight?

620
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: Another top ten hit?

621
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: But it should be I mean it should be closer

622
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,360
to number one then eight Top gold that pop gold.

623
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,360
So the B side on this one was a song

624
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,239
called Another Lonely Christmas. It is a much downer song

625
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,960
than this song. This is happy, Go Lucky. The other

626
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,320
side's about a guy spending Christmas alone because his significant

627
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,199
other died on Christmas Day the year before. Is tragic.

628
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,559
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. Some people open presence on Christmas.

629
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:01,920
Other people open their wrists.

630
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Gremlin, So that's how I found out there was

631
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,840
no Sanita.

632
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: Flashback to our Gremlins episode.

633
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: We've got Sila e on this one.

634
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sheile becoming a prominent member of Princess entourage.

635
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: When they would do this tour. Sheila was a part

636
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,760
of the show and she would come back out for

637
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239
this song and play the drums and they would sing

638
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,199
it together on the song.

639
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: It's a great song.

640
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, what else is there?

641
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: To say other than it's so fun, it's popgold.

642
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say. Let's go on to Baby

643
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:39,000
I'm a Star.

644
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: It slides right into Baby I'm a Star.

645
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the beginning part of this song.

646
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Make you think of the scene in Batman where Jack

647
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Nicholson is dancing around.

648
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: Yes, the joker parise scene.

649
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,519
Speaker 1: There is a reason for that, right. This is the

650
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,400
song that was supposed to be in that scene. And

651
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,039
it was just going to be the only Prince song

652
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,800
in the soundtrack. But then Prince got signed on to

653
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,039
the entire soundtrack, and so he said, we're going to

654
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:24,559
take that song out and we're going to put in

655
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,039
a song called two hundred Balloons. And they went, can

656
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,039
we go back to the other song? He was like, okay,

657
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,599
we won't do two hundred Balloons, but I've got another

658
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:35,360
song that's much closer to Baby I'm a Star. And

659
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,400
the song is called Trust, and we can play that

660
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,039
right here. See how close it is.

661
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: That's exactly like Baby I'm a Star.

662
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: Yes, you got no question when're hearing this, this is Prince, right,

663
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:57,599
And so that's how we get that awesome image. But

664
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:02,440
this one, this song actually came about in nineteen eighty one.

665
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,639
This whole album other than this song was written eighty

666
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,079
three ish, right right, And this one actually he had

667
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,719
written before December of eighty one, when he had just

668
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,719
started to become famous. And he's like, maybe I'm a stock.

669
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,519
Speaker 2: That's great, and your batman reck is awesome. Why somebody

670
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:41,400
tell me he's got one of those things? Okay, So

671
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,559
there's that string part right there, that that little tune,

672
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,400
that musical tune. It reminds me a lot of Raspberry Beret.

673
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same you got again. I mentioned her before.

674
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:53,480
This is nob Novag. She's the one playing the strings

675
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,880
on this, arranged by Winnie Lisa. Right, you get the

676
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,599
same sound, same string sound when you have Raspberry Beret.

677
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,639
That's why the sound the same. When Novie came in

678
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,480
to record this, this is like completely the opposite of

679
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,320
what I would expect from Prince. But she came in

680
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,639
and she was like, Okay, I'm going to try it out.

681
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,559
She plays it and she's like, Okay, I think I've

682
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,320
got it. He's like, Nope, that's goods. No, I can

683
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,880
do it better than that. He's like, no, I really

684
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
like the energy that you had on that one. I

685
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,039
don't want to use anything else, and she's like, okay, thanks,

686
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:22,480
because I.

687
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: Knock off earlier. Then, Baby, I'm a star. I would

688
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,039
die for you. Let's go Crazy and Purple Rain we're

689
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:33,920
all played at First Avenue on August third, nineteen eighty three,

690
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:35,559
for that concert.

691
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:38,639
Speaker 1: The benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater.

692
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Yes, when I think about that, I'm like, man, there's

693
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,559
a few concerts that I would have killed to have

694
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:45,880
been at, right, I mean we're talking for sure, Live Aid,

695
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,199
the Moscow Peace Festival and that night at First Avenue

696
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:51,519
in Minnesota on August third. To hear these songs have

697
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:52,440
played for the first.

698
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: Time, it's like the Lost Arc being opened, well in

699
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,199
a good way, not the bad one forgers Lost Arc.

700
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,239
I mean, right, this is a moment where we get

701
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,559
the title song for the movie. Albert. We talked about

702
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,239
it during the movie episode. Albert Magnolia is in the audience.

703
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:11,159
Hears them play Purple Rain along with those other songs,

704
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:13,880
and he's like, that song needs to be the key

705
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,119
song to my movie. They hadn't put live music on

706
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,519
an album before this. It's incredible these songs were played live.

707
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880
Now they overdubbed some and they added some vocalizations and

708
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,239
some strings to them, but these were plucked right out

709
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,719
of that concert. Yeah. Yeah, this song almost always follows

710
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,639
I Would Die for You. Whenever they play it live,

711
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,800
they blend together perfectly. It's kind of like we will

712
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,159
rock you and we are the champions. You've got to

713
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:39,000
hear these two songs.

714
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: You play one, you get the other.

715
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: You got to have the other. There, they're a pair.

716
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: All right, you're done with this one. We ready to

717
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,079
tackle this beast.

718
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: This talk about saving the best for last man. This

719
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,719
is so.

720
00:39:51,800 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 5: I okay, hold on, hold on, push pause, push pause,

721
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,719
hold on.

722
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I just got to talk about this for just a second. Okay.

723
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:10,960
I've talked about four chord songs before, and how like

724
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:15,000
there's a million rock pop hits that are the same

725
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,039
four chords. Right, Yes, we've got Don't Stop Believing, We've

726
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:22,599
got Africa, We've got minute work down under, all kinds

727
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:26,079
of songs, the same four chords, faithfully by Journey, which

728
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,400
we'll talk about here in just a second. Right, same

729
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,960
four chords. So this song is a four chord song. Literally,

730
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,320
the entire song is only four chords long. But what

731
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,480
happens is something amazing with these four chords that's unlike

732
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,760
the other songs. Okay, So normally, in a four chord song,

733
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,000
depending on the key, you're going to have B flat,

734
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,639
G minor, F and E flat. Okay, that's normally what

735
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:52,960
you would have. There's if you put in a different key,

736
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,079
it'd be a D F sharp minor and E. I mean,

737
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,440
it's just they are. They bear the same relationship to

738
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:03,440
each other on the scales, right. Okay, So this one, though,

739
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,440
you have an entirely different voicing for each of the chords.

740
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,719
So instead of having B flat, you have a B

741
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,559
flat nine, which makes it a much prettier sounding chord.

742
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:20,159
Let's listen to the first chord, and then that transitions

743
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,360
into not just a G minor, but a G minor

744
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:30,360
seven suspended four, which is again so beautiful. And then

745
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:32,679
this one's the basic chord. It goes right into that

746
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,639
F except the other guitar plays an F minor. So

747
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,280
every single chord he's taking these that four chord song,

748
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,920
but he's turning it into something bigger and better and

749
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:46,960
more beautiful. And then he finishes off not with an

750
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:50,320
E flat but with an E flat nine. Which is

751
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:55,880
this beautiful chord. Okay, now we can just play this

752
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,320
angle wow.

753
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: I h You know, they were following Bob Seger around

754
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,880
when they were touring, and they were kind of chasing

755
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,880
him around the States, and Prince went to Matt Beek

756
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,880
one day and he's like, damn, these white people in

757
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,239
the Heartland they love Bob Seger. I don't really get it.

758
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,480
Tell me why they're so into it. And Matt think says, well,

759
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,320
it's just this, It's just this kind of heartland thing, right.

760
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,960
They want to sing along and they want to be moved,

761
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,599
and they want to want to feel a part of it.

762
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:53,079
And so Prince modeled this song Purple Rain after turn

763
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:53,639
the page.

764
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,679
Speaker 1: So interestingly, this song started out it wasn't going to

765
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,039
be a song for him. It was going to be

766
00:42:59,079 --> 00:42:59,920
a song for Stevie.

767
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

768
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,639
Speaker 1: And it wasn't this power ballad. It was a country

769
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:07,440
style song. He sends it to Stevie Nicks and it's

770
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,559
about ten minutes. I mean, he gives her ten minutes

771
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:12,320
of these four chords over and over day and he's like,

772
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,519
will you just write some lyrics to this and you

773
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:16,679
sing it and it'll be our song together, and it

774
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,320
freaks her out and she's like, this is overwhelming. I

775
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,199
can't do this. I'm scared, I'm gonna mess it up.

776
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,039
It's too beautiful. I don't want to touch it. Here's

777
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:26,280
it back, Yeah, And so they bring it back into

778
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,159
their studio and their rehearsals, and it's one of the

779
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,920
first times that they have Wendy rehearsing with them, and

780
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,639
they start playing the kind of country style chord progression,

781
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,679
and Wendy is the one who does this voicing with

782
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,000
the chords that I just talked about, and when she

783
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,679
does that, it completely eliminates the country sound and it

784
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,280
brings it into that power ballad world that we love.

785
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: You know, when you're talking about Stevie Nicks. She gave

786
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,320
it back to him and said, basically, like you said,

787
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,559
it's too epic, it's two grand I can't handle it.

788
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,719
But she also added it was an olive branch of

789
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,960
him giving me that cassette, which was huge, but I

790
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,519
think he would have liked to have had a romance

791
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:21,239
with me as well.

792
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Well. She is Stevie Nicks. That is shocking, Well not really, Okay,

793
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,760
So this song spent two weeks in the number two position.

794
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,360
It never made it to number one. Do you know

795
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:42,800
what kept it out of the spot.

796
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: Quickly got got Oh, George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley had

797
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,400
some power in nineteen eighty.

798
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: Four Human Beings of the World. I love that song,

799
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,760
but it should not have kept out the Purple Master.

800
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:56,599
I agree.

801
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, it's tragic that song was released number

802
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,679
twenty sixth nineteen eighty four made it to number two,

803
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,159
blocked by Wham.

804
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,159
Speaker 1: So after he had put this song together, he realized

805
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,360
it sounded a lot like one of those four chord

806
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,480
songs Faithfully Right by Journey.

807
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually called Jonathan Kane. Yes, he called Jonathan

808
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,639
Kane and he said, hey, here's the tape of this song.

809
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,639
I'm afraid that I copied you. Would you listen to it?

810
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,199
Make sure that you're cool with.

811
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: This right and if you if you're trying to figure

812
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
that out in your head, listen to those first four

813
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,159
chords and then go down now now no no no

814
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:37,159
now now now no no no, and you will hear it. Yeah.

815
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:39,960
But Jonathan Kane said, no, man, it's just the same

816
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,119
four chords. This is obviously a completely different song. Okay,

817
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,719
So the first time that you hear the words purple

818
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,880
and rain put together in music. Is a song by

819
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,880
this band called America called Ventura Highway.

820
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:55,599
Speaker 2: This blew me Away, So it just it's the.

821
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,559
Speaker 1: Last it's kind of the last bit of one of

822
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,320
the lyrics in the song. Prince takes it and obviously

823
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,760
makes it his own. You know what purple rain is?

824
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,840
Do you know what it's supposed to be?

825
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I read this where it's talking about

826
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,159
you have a blue sky and you've got blood in

827
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,679
the sky, and therefore you have purple rain, right, which

828
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,320
for me, that was a little bit of a revelation.

829
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,000
I remember the lyrics from nineteen ninety nine. We was

830
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,239
talking about the sky was all purple, there are people

831
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,599
running everywhere.

832
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: Everywhere. Yeah, could have sworn it was Judgment Day. Sky

833
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,519
was all purple, there were people running everywhere. So it's

834
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,719
about the end of the world, and that's what this

835
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,480
song is about.

836
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: Wow. Back when I was in middle school, we had

837
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,320
this little riddle. We used to tell each other, Yes

838
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,559
that blue thunder plus red dawn equals purple rain.

839
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 1: There you go, how create it?

840
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. Nuggets like that, ladies and.

841
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, Okay, and so we've mentioned it multiple times now,

842
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,239
but just as a reminder, this was one of the

843
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,199
songs at the benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater. This

844
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480
was the first concert that Wendy Melvoy played. She was

845
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,800
only nineteen years old when she played with them. At

846
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,280
the time, they brought recording equipment with them. They didn't

847
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,760
know what it was going to be about. They just

848
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,119
knew Prince just does this stuff. So David Z, who

849
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,320
is the brother of Bobby Z, brings over recording equipment

850
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,039
and thank goodness, because I mean Bobby Z said it

851
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,599
was one of the best concerts they've ever ever done.

852
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,760
And you're talking about I've got the drummer for the

853
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:33,039
Revolution says one of the best concerts we've ever done.

854
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: So glad that they had the foresight to do that.

855
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,199
Speaker 1: He's got a huge Prince is not what I would

856
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,199
describe as a great singer. Like he does. His voice

857
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,400
is good and it's enjoyable to listen to him, but

858
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:54,760
it's not like he's He's not some amazing Steve Perry

859
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,239
esque kind of singer. But his vocal range on this one,

860
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,440
he goes from a B flat two all the way

861
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:04,960
up to a C sharp six, which is a huge,

862
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,719
huge vocal range for one song. Yeah.

863
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,159
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say, you can see that

864
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,440
on the beautiful Ones.

865
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: I think that range is there. Yeah.

866
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: One of the things I want to talk about, Yeah,

867
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,639
just briefly, is the super Bowl.

868
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty one, two thousand and seven. Do you

869
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,320
remember who the teams were that were flaying?

870
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,599
Speaker 2: Was the Bears and the Cold Cycle very good.

871
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: It's really hard to remember the teams, but it sure

872
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:30,679
is easy to remember. Prints.

873
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,079
Speaker 2: Hey, we posted on Facebook during the Super Bowl. I

874
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:34,880
was watching the Super Bowl with you at your house

875
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,079
and I just threw it out there and I'm like,

876
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:38,280
we're watching.

877
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: The super Bowl performance. I'm like, what are we watching here?

878
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:40,719
You know?

879
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: So I threw it out there on our Facebook page.

880
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,199
I said, if you will, a picture of the world's

881
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,920
best Super Bowl performer ever.

882
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: And the response was unanimous and overwhelming. Thank you all

883
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,559
of our Facebook friends. It blew up. But it was

884
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,239
again this magical moment, like that concert was a magical moment.

885
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,000
The half time show was a magical moment because he

886
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:04,639
goes through these songs. He had played Baby I'm a Star,

887
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,559
and the last song that he plays is Purple Rain

888
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,599
and Lo and behold it starts to rain on the

889
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:18,360
concert and there are purple lights making the rain purple.

890
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,679
I mean, you just you can't get any more religious

891
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:22,519
experience than that.

892
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,199
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.

893
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing moment of silence for Prince's supowl performance. Tragically,

894
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,199
this is also the last song he ever performed live.

895
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,800
He performed this April fourteenth, twenty sixteen, one week before

896
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,159
he died.

897
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,199
Speaker 5: Is that right?

898
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,679
Speaker 2: I did not realize.

899
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,079
Speaker 1: That, But what a great way to end that epic career.

900
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Okay, are we done with Purple Rain? I

901
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,679
just want to throw a couple of songs a bone

902
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,400
here real quick.

903
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

904
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: They weren't on the Purple Rain soundtrack, which was interesting.

905
00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:06,760
So More's Day in the Time have Jungle Love and

906
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:17,480
the Bird, which featured prominently in the movie. But Prince

907
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,480
made it clear to Morris Day He's like, listen, you

908
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,840
put those songs on your own album. I'm gonna make

909
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,800
my own album and this is gonna be my thing. Right,

910
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,840
So Jumble Love and the Bird feature prominently in the movie,

911
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,039
both great songs. Jumble Love was a big hit in

912
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,519
nineteen eighty five. Then, of course you also have sex

913
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:44,639
Shooter by Appolonius six not a great song, it's okay,

914
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,239
Apolony looks fantastic and so.

915
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:47,679
Speaker 1: There you go.

916
00:50:47,800 --> 00:51:02,199
Speaker 2: Now are we ready for final Judgment? Purple Rain?

917
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,079
Speaker 1: It is Judgment Day?

918
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: This guy was all purple. There are people running everywhere

919
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,800
Footloose soundtrack Yep versus Purple Rain soundtrack, the go.

920
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:18,119
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question it's overwhelming. You have a

921
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:23,639
phenomenal album. Phenomenal Footloose has hit after hit after hit.

922
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,679
It's the album that knocked Thriller out of the number

923
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,880
one spot and then stayed in that spot for ten

924
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,599
solid weeks. You've got performers at the top of their game.

925
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,079
You've got Kenny Loggins, You've got Denise Williams, You've got

926
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,519
Ann Wilson and Mike Reno. I mean, there's just an

927
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:48,000
amazing amount of talent in this album. But it's a

928
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,239
pop album. It was made it was It's a wake

929
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,599
me up, before you go go album. It is made

930
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,239
to be accessible to the public, and it's not musically intricate.

931
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,639
On the other hand, and you have prints taking songs

932
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:05,880
that not only have those pop sensibilities, but you have

933
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,760
the musicianship of Him and the Revolution. I mean, they've

934
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,800
got to get a lot of credit in this one,

935
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,679
but it's conceivably the best album of the decade. In

936
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,360
a decade of great albums, it is conceivably the best.

937
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,719
It is the best album of nineteen eighty four. It is.

938
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,559
And you got a lot of good stuff that year.

939
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,519
So sorry, Footloose, You've got some great stuff. You definitely

940
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,239
are a big hitter, but there's no way you can

941
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,400
overcome the Purple One. What are your thoughts?

942
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: That's tough to follow up right there? That was pretty

943
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,760
pretty on the nose. I love the Footloose soundtrack. When

944
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,719
you talk about the eighties, the soundtrack was a really

945
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,480
big deal. If you had music videos and songs that

946
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,559
went with your movie. They kind of went hand in

947
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,280
hand and helped each other out. Footloose hit it right

948
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,280
on the nose. And what we say, they were like

949
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:54,719
six hits of the top forty.

950
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:55,079
Speaker 1: Or something like that.

951
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, six out of nine. Yeah, I mean every song

952
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,599
but one was released as a single. It was a

953
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,159
huge album, and it was a number one seller and

954
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,199
a not thriller out of the top spot. And I

955
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440
love it. If you tell me that Footloose is the

956
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,280
second best soundtrack of the eighties. I'll go with you

957
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,840
on that, but it can't overcome the mass amazing appeal

958
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:18,920
of Purple Rain. Purple Rain, I'm spiking the football is

959
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,719
the best album of the nineteen eighties, and since I

960
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,320
only listened to was basically in the eighties and nineties,

961
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,679
it's probably my favorite album of all time.

962
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: Wow, better than Thriller?

963
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: Yes, because I like Bad better than Thriller?

964
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: Better than Bad?

965
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, Peple Rain is the best album that we've

966
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:39,039
covered so far, and I don't see anything topping it.

967
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's hard to argue with that. It really is.

968
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:45,280
And we mentioned this frequently. We've got a lot of

969
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,639
Ready Player one fans. You still haven't read Ready Player

970
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,800
two yet. I have, But I will just say Prince

971
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,159
and the Afterworld is a major, faceted part of this book.

972
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:59,239
You've got to go read it. Awesome, awesome.

973
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,639
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what we really didn't do Judgment Day.

974
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,599
Speaker 1: On movies on movies. Yeah, that's what we got to

975
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:07,280
do next is Okay, So we are obviously both on

976
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,920
the same page. Purple Rain far and away the better album, Yes,

977
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:14,039
Footloose or Purple Rain movie wise?

978
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:17,039
Speaker 2: You go first, okay, all right, now listen fully admitting

979
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,400
that I am born and raised in Oklahoma, So there

980
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,400
is a sauce spot in my heart for stories that

981
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,639
are born here. Elmore City is right down the road

982
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:25,079
from where we're recording right now.

983
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,679
Speaker 1: Say thank you again to Arlen for all of those

984
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:28,679
incredible stories that.

985
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:31,519
Speaker 2: Are and those were fantastic stories. Yeah, so I love

986
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:35,039
the movie Footloots, probably more than the average Joe on

987
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:38,760
the street. With that said, the movie Footloose, the cast

988
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,039
alone is amazing. I mean, John Lithgow, Kevin Bacon, Laurie

989
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,599
Singer does a great job, Chris Penn is awesome. Sarah

990
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:49,800
Jessica Parker and she's on her way up. She looks great.

991
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,000
Diane Weist is awesome. The kids leaving a church is awesome.

992
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,280
Purple Rain is a movie held up by the songs.

993
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,280
Now you have Prince at the height of his powers

994
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,199
performing amazingly, and Apollonia is gorgeous. But this is propped

995
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,719
up by the songs. So when it comes to the movies,

996
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:14,960
footlos is clearly the better movie, Purple Rain is clearly

997
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,760
the better soundtrack. That's where I am spiking the football.

998
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need to spike the football on me. Man,

999
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,360
we're again on the exact same page on this one.

1000
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,480
Purple Rain. The movie is, like you said, it's carried

1001
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:29,559
along by the music. It is a music video followed

1002
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,239
by some boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl.

1003
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,880
Back story. That's great. I mean, it's Prince's story and

1004
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,000
it's entertaining, but it's not a movie that if I

1005
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,760
saw it, I'm gonna be like, oh, Purple Rain, I

1006
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,920
gotta watch that. You know, maybe the lake mini talka scene,

1007
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,719
but that's about it.

1008
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: You get to the opening scene, let's go crazy. You

1009
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,719
get Lake Mantonka, and you get Purple Rain.

1010
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get Yeah. I'm watching that first, those first two,

1011
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
and then I'm like, all right, foot Loose on Footloose,

1012
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,400
I'll go back and watch again and again. It is.

1013
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,000
I mean, you can't grab a CD of a movie

1014
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,719
as you're going out the door. But if I'm finding

1015
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,840
things to watch on TV, I'll watch Footlots. I'll watch

1016
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,599
it over and over again. It had been a long

1017
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:14,960
time since i'd seen it, And like you said, the

1018
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,599
performances made this movie. Kevin Bacon, this was his first

1019
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,719
really big breakout role, but he did a phenomenal job

1020
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,519
with it, and we talked about how it was that

1021
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,639
going to the high school for one day, just one

1022
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,519
day of being in high school, completely changed the way

1023
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:31,760
that he decided to portray this character. And it was

1024
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,360
a key to the movie. And John Lithgow met with

1025
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,320
the Preacher for just one meeting and it completely influenced

1026
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,440
how he played this Preacher. And as a grown man

1027
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:44,639
watching this movie, I'm like, this guy is not an evil,

1028
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,159
you know, being thump in the Bible Helen Brimstone Preacher

1029
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,719
like I thought he was. He's a guy who is

1030
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,719
concerned about the well being of the people. He lost

1031
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,760
a son, and I think you mentioned this. This is

1032
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,000
about a son who's lost a father and a father

1033
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,400
who's lost a son and them making peace with each other.

1034
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,719
And that is a movie that you just don't see

1035
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,880
very often. And then the fact that you've got, yeah,

1036
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,559
you've got You've got the young kids dancing their hearts

1037
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:17,039
out trying to beat the oppressor. Brilliant, brilliant movie. Obviously

1038
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:17,440
the winner.

1039
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,599
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this one last curve ball?

1040
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,039
Speaker 1: Okay?

1041
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,239
Speaker 2: Rank them one, two, three, four, Okay.

1042
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: Purple Rain soundtrack Footloose movie Footloose Soundtrack, Purple Rain Movie one,

1043
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:31,400
two three four.

1044
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going Purple Raine soundtrack, Footloose Soundtrack, Footloose Movie,

1045
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:41,519
Purple Rain Movie. Okay, we would love to hear from you.

1046
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,039
Where are you guys on this?

1047
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Rank them one two three four one two three

1048
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:46,880
four for us.

1049
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,239
Speaker 2: We've had a lot of fun doing a four parter

1050
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:50,920
on these two.

1051
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,119
Speaker 1: Such a good time, such a good time.

1052
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: Hey, next week we are coming back with Alien Versus Aliens.

1053
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,639
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we.

1054
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:03,639
Speaker 2: Are off summer of eighty four, right, we'll.

1055
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Return to eighty four in just a few weeks. Yeah,

1056
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,119
because we're gonna throw in Terminator and Terminator two after that,

1057
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:11,480
and then we're going to compare all four of those

1058
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:15,360
movies since they're so heavily James Cameron, not all, but heavily,

1059
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,920
and see how they all match up against each other.

1060
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,440
We'll do a one two three four on that one

1061
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:20,840
as well.

1062
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,119
Speaker 2: All right, next week, nineteen seventy nine, Alien.

1063
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,000
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1064
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:29,480
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1067
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