Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Brian
Coberger and his father took a longer route home from Pennsylvania,
and that decision has had some people asking some questions
about what would motivate them to do something like that,
And for me, my personal opinion is it had to
do with the weather. We're talking about driving across country
from Idaho all the way to Pennsylvania through the Rockies
in the middle of winter, and there were some storms
raging at the time. So personally, I would have taken
the other route, the southern route that we saw Brian
and his father take as well. Sure, you might add
on a few hours to your journey, but it's better
than getting caught in a white out or some icy
ass highway where you can't even move. So when I
first heard this story and that they took the longer route,
I thought right away it had to do with the weather.
And that's still where I'm at as of now. Let's
see if this article changes my mind. This is an
article from Fox News headlined inside Idaho murder suspect Brian
Coberger's unusually long route home to Pennsylvania. The lengthy drive
home in December had some questioning whether he was dodging
more than snow. This article was authored by Michael Ruiz,
and it's a legitimate question to ask why would you
take the longer route? And while I believe the answer
is simple and it has to do with the weather,
I'm not willing to discount anything until it's ready to
be discounted. A month after allegedly stabbing for University of
Idaho students to death, Brian Coberger and his dad set
off on a cross country odyssey in the vehicle of interest,
headed home to Pennsylvania from Washington State University. The twenty
eight year old criminology PhD student avoided the most direct route,
which a long Interstates ninety and ninety four is a
thirty eight hour drive according to Google Maps. Was he
trying to confuse authorities, enjoy a scenic route, or avoid
bad weather? I mean, I guess it can be any
of those. Right. You and your dad are out on
a cross country trip, say to your pops, hey, let's
take the scenic route and let's look at some of
the sites. Or he wants to throw the cops off,
so he comes up with a different excuse, tells his dad, hey,
there's going to be too much weather on the northern route,
so we're going to take the southern route, and the
reason is the weather. Dad. Meanwhile, it has nothing to
do with the weather, just a likely excuse for Brian
Kolberger so that he could take the scenic rout to
ditch the cops. So, of all of those scenarios that
are presented, those three scenarios, the most unlikely of those
scenarios is Brian trying to go the scenic route. Why
in the hell would he want to do that considering
what's going on and at this point the authorities were
already looking for the vehicle and him, So taking the
scenic route that would mean more eyes on you and
more cars driving by you, and more possibility of you
getting spotted by law enforcement like what happened in Indiana.
Coberger and his dad went south down to Loma, Colorado
near I seventy, then cut east on a route that
took them past Indianapolis along the way, adding at least
six hours to a drive that they completed some time
between December twelfth and December sixteenth. Court documents don't specify
exactly when Coberger left his apartment in Pullman, Washington, about
ten miles from the crime scene, but the document show
his car triggered a license plate reader in Loma on
December thirteenth. The route takes the father and son duo
about fifteen hours out of the way. Despite some reporting
that the FBI lost track of his whereabouts during his
leg of the journey, authorities have denied it, of course
they have. What are the authorities gonna come out? The
FBI is gonna say, yep, you know Howard Bloom over
there over at Airmail, he really got it. He got
it right, Folks, we lost Brian Coberger and that was
our bad. We were busy watching episodes of Yellowstone, so
you know, we couldn't keep our eye on Brian Coberger.
Is that what people expect the FBI to say? Why
would they even admit that Bloom has it? Right now?
I'm not saying that he does. I can't confirm what
Bloom over at hot air has to say, hot Mail,
whatever the hell it's called over there. I have no clue.
But the FBI sure is quick to come out and
deny a whole bunch of stuff in this story. It
would be nice if they'd give us a little bit
of context every now and then. Instead of all these denials,
the FBI is aware of reports detailing alleged FBI surveillance
on Idaho murder subject. Brian Cooberger, an FBI spokesman, told
Fox News Digital on Thursday, there are anonymous sources providing
false information to the media. That's pretty ironic and rich
coming from the FBI, considering how they like to also
do the same thing and provide information when it suits
them through anonymous sources. According to that same report, however,
the Coburgers were allegedly worried about snow to the north
in their twenty fifteen Hondai, a launtra a small sedan
nearly a decade old with front wheel drive, And to me,
that's the likeliest scenario, and that's probably what they were
thinking about. Who the hell wants to drive across country
in a little ass Hondai in the middle of December,
going through the Rockies. I can understand if the weather
is good, then that's a whole different story. But with
bad weather, zero chance I'd even try and begin to
navigate that. And they had reason to be. According to
storm data just reviewed by Fox Weather, meteorologists were tracking
a coast to coast storm during the week of December twelfth,
and it didn't matter which highway a driver picked, they
would likely run into potential hazardous weather, explained Andrew Wolfick,
a digital content producer and meteorologist at Fox Weather that
said the initial hours of the duo's journey would have
been treacherous had they taken the most direct route with
white out conditions that covered parts of the northern Plains
and upper Midwest in over a foot of snow. So
even if they would have taken the most direct route,
they would have had those white out conditions driving that
hooped ass HONDEI Alantra, So they would have lost time
either way. Why not just go the way with the
better weather and keep your time that you're going to
be spending on the road and moving towards your destination.
The first leg out of Idaho through the higher elevations
of the Rockies would likely have been tough, with estimates
topping a foot of new powder per day. Wolfig said.
Once east of the Rockies, southern routes appeared to be
more optimal due to exffected blizzard conditions in the northern plains.
The weather up north was so severe that South Dakota
authorities even shut down several major highways, including Interstate ninety
on December thirteenth. He added, So if they would have
went that way, they would have lost more time probably
than even going the southern route. So you might as
well just do the southern route. Suck it up, know
you're going to have to eat a few hours and
try and make up for it on the back end.
Who the hell wants to be stuck in a snowstorm
in some rinky dink motel in North Dakota South Dakota
wherever a southern route would put a traveler closer to
the system's warm zone and further away from the effects
of wintry impacts. Wilfix said snowfall did not affect Interstate
eighty or any route south of there. East of the Rockies,
they would have only been impacted by rain and wind,
and not nearly as hazardous, he said. The detour south,
according to criminal profiler and psychotherapist John Kelly, among the
least suspicious of Coburger's actions following the murders, and I
agree with that fully. I don't even find this suspicious
at all, To be honest with you, police alleged Coburger
returned to the crime scene hours after the slayings, but
before police had received a nine to one one call.
Authorities tracked his movements about thirty miles south to Lewiston
that afternoon. It's the drive that morning that Kelly said
stands out to him, and I agree again with mister
Kelly here. I think that directly after leaving the house,
if Brian Coberger is the guy the government's telling us
he is, that's when he got rid of all the evidence,
got rid of the knife, got rid of clothes, got
rid of Dickey's or vans whatever he was rocking, and
kept it moving. I highly doubt he kept all of
that in his possession all the way up until the
time him and old pod Dukes here were driving across
the country. He may have disposed of evidence along the way,
Kelly said, or he may have been in a euphoric state,
reflecting on the crime and enjoying the mountain scenery. That
sounds perverse and crazy to us, but to these crazy
psycho killers, that's the kind of shit that they do.
For them, They're fulfilling their needs, right, They're fulfilling their
goals like you or I would fulfill a goal by
graduating from school, getting promoted at work, something like that.
For these sick bastards, it's all about enacting these fantasies
that they've been harboring for all of these years. We
can't call him a serial killer yet, and maybe never,
Kelly said, but serial killers tend to put a lot
of mileage on their cars. They spend a lot of
time stalking and voyeuristic kinds of situations where they've got
a drive looking for victims. And that's one thing that
Ed Kemper was talking about as well. Ed Kemper said
that one of the most important things for him was
to have a good car because he was putting a
lot of miles on it. The son of Sam same thing, Berkeway,
he would put his kill kit in the car and
he would drive around for weeks at a time looking
for the perfect woman to shoot. So Kelly is not
wrong when he's talking about how they put a lot
of mileage on their car. Now. I won't say that
Brian Cooeberger is a serial killer. We don't know that,
but he certainly has a lot of the attributes of
some of these sick bastards that we've seen throughout the past.
Coburger is accused of entering a six bedroom house on
November thirteenth and killing four young people around four am.
The victims, all University of Idaho's students, have been identified
as three housemates, Kaylee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, and Xana Kernodle,
and Kernodle's visiting boyfriend Ethan Chapin. Along the way home,
the Coburgers passed through Hancock County, just east of Indianapolis.
A local deputy end the state trooper each stopped the duo,
resulting in a pair of body cam videos that eventually
gave the public the first sound of coburger voice. He
was suspicious. His demeanor is one of suspicion. Susan Constantine,
a behavioral analyst who specializes in body language and detecting deception,
told Fox News Digital he is a suspicious person, but
he was suspicious of the officer. Why was he being
pulled over the intensity of his glare, The way he
leaned forward and gripped the steering wheel with one hand
shows this. She said. You can see that stalker in
his eyes, that fixation. That's a scary thing. She said
evil is looking at you straight in the eye. I mean,
come on, talk about hyperbole. I think Brian Kohberger is
likely the guy here. But to look at him and say, oh,
he looks evil or he has a stare that's evil,
that's a bit silly. Nobody can look at somebody and
say oh, they're evil because of the way they're looking
back at them. Now, people can give you the creeps.
People can be creepy as shit, like Charles Manson. But
for this lady, who is an actual doctor, to say
that she was staring at the face of evil, talk
about hyperbole. Coberger has been charged with felony, burglary and
four counts of first degree murder. He could face the
death penalty if convicted. A Leta County judge set his
preliminary hearing for the week of June twenty sixth, and
in the meantime he is being held without bail. So
there is the conversation about Brian Cohberger and his drive
from his home in Washington all the way back to Pennsylvania.
And for me, I don't think there's any doubt that
they changed their route because of the weather and to
avoid a full on white out. Blizzard. All right, folks,
that's gonna do it for this one. All of the
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