Speaker 1: All start to what you want to presents. Off the
bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Bob Abert.
Speaker 3: I gotta come off the bench now.
Speaker 1: Here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 4: We are live here in Mobile, Alabama at the Rees's
Senior Bowl. A few years in a row. Now we've
done this. Very excited to be here. Cannot wait for
this week? Can I wait to see who emerges this week,
who we get to talk to, who we learn about
I mean, Jake, I can't help but but you know
I'm watching those games yesterday and who has that incredible
interception at the end of the Eagles commandage game, Quinyan Mitchell.
Where's the first time I ever heard of queny and Mitchell?
Last year here when everybody all of a sudden is
talking about that Toledo cornerback who's just cooking everyone. So
this is the time of year in which the entire
football world descends upon Mobile, Alabama, and we are very
excited to be here once again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a great Senior Bowl last year,
and it was so cool to see him calling out
people you remember by school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't calling him out by name.
Speaker 5: He's like Michigan, Georgia, Florida, and just kept pointing to
people and it was like really good receivers like Ricky
Piersaw I remember was one of those receivers.
Speaker 4: Roman Wilson was one of those receivers. And so yeah,
he look, this is like a week that he came
down here. I think like it was a deep cut.
Speaker 5: You know, some people knew about him, but I know,
look hand up, like I barely had heard his name right,
and he comes and he was probably one of the stars.
I mean, Lavakonki was certainly another. But that's what's great
about this week. You're going to see people that maybe
they're not household names right now, but they will be
by the end of the week.
Speaker 4: Now, speaking of household names here the Senior Bowl this week,
I do feel like the quarterbacks lot of name recognition here,
more so maybe than last year, last couple of years.
You've got Jackson Dart up here, Jalen Milroe, that's gonna
be fascinating to see, Tyler Schuck's here, Dylan Gabriel's, Riley
Leonard obviously somebody who has been on the you know,
the main stage here as of late. And then Seth
hitting it from from Memphis, who I only know about
from getting cooked by him in NCAA and the AAC.
Speaker 2: But look, the bottom line is there's.
Speaker 4: A ton of great players here, a ton of LSUE
representatives here.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great week.
Speaker 4: We'll be a practice every day, no practice to day
practice every day after this, whole practice reports, potential Saints targets.
Speaker 2: All of this and more.
Speaker 4: I remember Louisiana Sports dotting at Ross Jackson down here
as well doing all of your Saints coverage. You can
get all of your Louisiana sports there. So it's it's
gonna be great. Jake, what players are you?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Do you have any players that you're kind of looking
forward to watching this week to maybe aren't.
Speaker 2: Just one of the quarterbacks. We talked about it kind
of on the way down last night.
Speaker 5: I mean, is a great roster and and hopefully we
can catch up with a lot of these these players there.
Obviously Cam Skataboo is going to be a player, and
I know people like that that I want to watch,
but I do I want to see how somebody like that,
how do they integrate themselves against the best of the best,
Because he showed out on the biggest stage that he
was one, right, you know there against Texas and the
Peach Bowl, and so like, those are players that I
want to see, like, we know you're really good. Here's
your opportunity to show that you're one of the best
of the best. And you mentioned the quarterback class. It's
hard not to sit there and just look name after
name after name, and we got the two national championship,
you know, quarterbacks. I think Will Howard was originally going
to be in this game, and I'm not sure if
he comes down here.
Speaker 2: And if.
Speaker 5: And if he does anything, but I gets a big
week for Riley Leonard too. Like a lot of people
say he's not a pro quarterback, he can't do a
B and C. Well, I mean Riley Leonard's showing his
career a duke and Notre Dame that he can get
all the things done, and so it's gonna be a
big week for him. Tess Johnson's a player that hopefully
we catch up with here in a couple of minutes
from Oregon. He's got a great story being from Birmingham, Alabama,
going to Troy. Now he gets to kind of come
back home to his home state and it's gonna be
a big states for him. So there's a lot of storylines,
a ton of them throughout the week. But you know me,
I mean camp Scattabooy's got to be the guy most
excited about.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, y'all thought I was crushing on
Sam Hartman last year, just wait until you get Jake
interviewing Cam here.
Speaker 5: It's not that, it's I kind of see myself in
his story of no matter what, you know, know what
what you know, he kind of went out there and
he did it. But everybody's always like yeah, but it
was a lot of yeah, but he can't do this
at the next level, and I think he can.
Speaker 2: And this is what this week is, you know.
Speaker 5: For like for me, I had to prove that I
could play fullback during the week of the Senior Bowl,
and so like, I see a lot of the same
like and I see the drive too that he has
and to kind of prove people wrong. And so I
think that's what it is more than anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt, real recognize real, and y'all are
others from another mother essentially in terms of kind of
how how y'all play the game, career, all of that.
So I'm really excited to watch him at practice as well.
Excited to see these guys how they handle the riggers
of the week. As you know, there's a ton of
mental and physical pressure when it comes to the practice
doing well once to have, but clear if you get
beaten a rep, not overly stressing it going to the
next rep. But then even when you're not on the
practice field here, you're constantly in meetings with coaches. They
make you do some media car washes as well as
they're really trying to exhaust guys over the week and
figure out who can stand up physically but also who
can stand up mentally. So it's gonna be something that
we keep an eye on. So, as I said, we
are very very excited to be here down here mobile.
We'll continue to talk to sing your Bowl, interview guys
as they come up, but first let's go ahead and
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Speaker 2: Flix will service. Hey, Jake, super Bowl is that? And
what do you know? The Chiefs are back?
Speaker 4: Maybe more interestingly, but you know, objectively less impressively.
Speaker 2: Is the Eagles back as well? Again?
Speaker 4: The saga of the Eagles after the last three years
is one of the most fascinating because eleven games end
of the season last year. I mean, the point is
you could have almost had a three peat of opponents
here as the Eagles are so good all those year
they completely fall off, but now it looks like they
are playing better than never.
Speaker 2: Saquon has completely changed there.
Speaker 4: Do you want to Chuck Comedy's Eagles first or Bill's Chiefs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can go Commanders Eagles first.
Speaker 5: The undercart yeah, I mean, it was a game until
the fourth quarter and then you saw the Eagles pull
away there and just too many turnovers by the Commanders.
They had three fumbles. The Eagles made them pay on
every single one of them. And you're right about Saquon
like he changes the math for that team. They're just
they're different. And you know, they were really good without him,
and they had playmakers and aj Brown, DeVante Smith and
Jalen Hurts would find a way. But now you have
to cover everything, like fifty three and a third better
be cover because they can hit you from so many
different ways.
Speaker 2: And I mean even the tight end position.
Speaker 5: I mean you you just see them spread the football
out and then once they decide, okay, it's gonna be
Saquan's turn, like he's gonna hit a sixty yarder because
he's not like he's getting twenty five carries a game.
Speaker 2: He had fifteen carries.
Speaker 5: But it's like they do a great job tee of spreading, spreading,
spreading Saquon right, and they kind of get you to
wide and everything because you got to cover everybody because
they have so many different weapons. And then he's so
good and once i mean look, once he gets on
the same level as you, he's gone.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna catch it. Uh Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of the funniest football rhythms, uh interactions, rhythm of
the game that I've ever seen is how this game opened,
where the commanders go on a just uber grindy eighteen
play drive where Jane Daniels doing Jane Daniels things, calmly
converts a fourth and five calmly converts a fourth and two.
Took the entire half of the first quarter, and they'd
come away with three. Okay, great, I mean eighteen plays
half a quarter, you put some on the board, and
then the Eagles come back and it's one play. Sekwon
to the house on an incredible little flip like little
little like fake jet sweep flipped the other way a
couple of league blockers, but then Saquon's speed and balancing
breaks a couple of tackles, spit while maintaining speed, and
all of a sudden, It's like the Commanders tried so hard,
eighteen players to get those three and then the Eagles
just go one and it's seven to three. Yeah, all
of a sudden, and yeah, so the game, the game,
the game. It just the turnovers after that for the Commanders,
because every time they felt like they had a chance
to make it, there'd be a fumble or something. There's
the pick didn't really matter. But the Quinnan Mitchell pick
was incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was for me. It was the fumble on
the kickoff return.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they go, they score, They got the momentum,
and for the most part, you've been moving the football offensively,
but you give it right back to him. You're not
gonna be able to overcome that now when you're trying
to punch out, not when you're the underdog. So yeah,
they had three of them, but the one that to
me kind of changed the game was the one right
there on the kickoff return. You're right, I mean, jayde
dust throw a pick, But the game was well decided
by that point. And look, you know, probably you know
this week, next week we'll look back on what Jayden
was able to do his rookie year, one of the
best rookie seasons that we've ever seen. He's got the
Commanders in the NFC Championship game in year number one.
They've got a you know, a squad that feels like
it's going to be kept together for a while.
Speaker 2: You look at their cap space.
Speaker 5: I think they have the third most t money to
spend in all of the NFL. And they got a
couple of guys that are going to be free. But
some guys are gonna have to make a decision like
zach Ertz. I mean, this is somebody that how much
longer does he want to play? He's already got a
Super Bowl title with the Eagles, but he's he's been
big here down the stretch. So there's gonna be guys
like that that have a decision to make. But I mean,
for the most part, they've got they've got their stars
kind of locked up, and they got a lot of
money to spend.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the future looks very bright. Also as far
as the Eagles go, well, actually we can talk more Eagles.
Uh when when when we start previewing Super Bowl over
the next couple of weeks, I will say this, Wow,
Jordan Davis and.
Speaker 2: Jam Carter so big, so big, good guy man, how
do you have vote? Those guys?
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Speaker 4: You already know, all right, when we get back, let's
talk about the the main event, chief spills and uh
we you know, we'll have interviews cropping up a kind
of uh not set time, so well.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun show. Random ish. We saw
a lot of Saints coaching search talk as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they're the only one left. Yeah, and you
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Speaker 4: Welcome back here on off the Bench our coverage of
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Casino and bat Rouge. And right now we're the Memphis
native former Aggie, former Old Mitch. You're talking about Walter Nolan,
All American, one of the most dominantier d linemen in
the entire country.
Speaker 2: What's up, man?
Speaker 4: You got in yesterday, Today's day one? Get ready for practice?
How we feeling right now?
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm feeling good.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm just mentionally preparing for this week.
Speaker 2: You know, what have they been telling you?
Speaker 4: I guess your camp's preparing you for this What have
they been telling you you need to be mentally prepared for?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 8: Really, I feel like the big thing I got a
mention prepared for the interview? Football still gonna take care
of yourself, all right.
Speaker 5: When you're getting those interviews, Like what do you want
to kind of get accomplished? What do you want to
show them that, you know once you get up there
on the board.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: Really, I just want to show them that I kind
of kind of like, it ain't hard for me to
learn the game.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: I can process things pretty smoothly. I'm pretty coachorable too,
So if anything got to change on the fly, I
can do that, you know. And I kind of understand
the whole defense. Not all the way, but I kind
of understand.
Speaker 2: Are you thinking where you're gonna live? You think in
the NFL?
Speaker 5: I mean we're talking, you know, in a three four defense,
maybe playing some end and a four to three, playing
a three technique, Like, what do you think at the
end of the day, we kind of best suit your game.
Speaker 8: Honestly, I feel like I could play on whatever. I
feel like I can prosper in whatever. You know, if
you want me to play nose, I fly. I play
nose with the best of them. You you want me
slide out to five, ticken you go to six or seven,
I can go out there and play that too. And
I feel like there's really what kind of like separated
me from a lot of other interior defensive linemen. Whatever,
I'm one of those players.
Speaker 3: Whatever. The coach needs to let me know how I
do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I mean look at you.
Speaker 4: You already said be coachable. It's like something that we
were always raised on. Hard is the main thing. Uh
So the coach, you're gonna love that starting tomorrow at practice.
Speaker 2: How we feel about practice?
Speaker 4: Getting excited for the one we got any nerves in
the in the stomach right now?
Speaker 8: Oh, I wouldn't say nervous. I'm just ready, like I'm
kind of anxious excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you ready to get after it a little bit?
Speaker 4: What is the uh what is what is your favorite
part about playing D line, going against uh, going against
these big.
Speaker 8: Alignment Uh, my favorite thing is, you know, just it's
just the battles. You know. You know everybody think, oh,
the biggest, the biggest person on win with the fastest
person and which in reality, yeah, it's supposed to be true,
but in football, I mean it's any given rip, so
you know, it's really just a repeated competition every snap.
Speaker 5: So who was the best offensive lineman you went against
this year in the SEC?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: I probably have just ahead and say just probably just
Will Will Campbell, just probably just saying because he was
the I feel like he was the most prepared and
I's like he prepared the best at all the offensive
lineman that I played, And I feel like he just
he just had that the NFL like level, like just
of preparation. I feel like he already had that kind
of at an early age.
Speaker 4: Is that something that I mean you mentioned here, you
know that it's like, yeah, people assume it's biggest and strongest,
but really yeah, it's like the same preparation technique. It's
preparation something that you pride yourself on.
Speaker 8: Uh. Yeah, I mean at first I was kind of like,
you know, coming out of high school.
Speaker 3: You know, I was just like, hey, I'm just trying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Do the same thing I always do. But you know,
as you get older, you understand it. Preparation is everything.
It's all about the process, you know. I'm just starting.
I'm slowly and slowly falling in love with the process
every day.
Speaker 2: So well, and.
Speaker 4: And uh, I want to take it back to college
for a little bit. I want to I want to
ask a bit of an sec I guess, an old
miss question because it's something that I'm kind of fascinated
outside looking in. Uh, y'all had so much success there,
and y'all brought together so much talent from different areas
and then it really gelled together really well.
Speaker 2: What is the process at all, miss, right now?
Speaker 4: To take in these big personalities, big time players, big
time transfers and kind of get everybody to buy in
and get on the same page.
Speaker 2: What is Lane telling y'all?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 8: Lane here here players coach, So it really, old Miss,
it's like the player's team, honestly, So whatever, I feel
like we had a pretty good leadership leadership group, you know,
in the seniors, So really it was just you know,
everybody come in, let's work. I mean, I feel like
everybody came in with the same goal as we're trying
to win and everybody trying to go to the next level.
So I feel like, honestly, it was just I forgot
the word called uh.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was just everybody had the same ideas.
Speaker 2: You know, had good chemistry. They got on the same page.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I also feel like if we would have
had just a little bit more time, we would have
clicked a little bit better and we probably have had
a better send, a better turnout.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about another coach of years
we were talking a little bit before, Jimbo Fisher. I
do radio with Jimbo every Tuesday and played for him
and so knowing him really well, and he didn't get
excited too often about defensive players. But when he talks
about you, he kind of sits up in his chair
and he gets a big smile on his face. You know,
Jimbo talks fast already he gets to go in a
little bit there, and so man, he was a big
fan of yours. What was it like a text A
and M before you went to all mess because y'all
also look y'all had a really talented group as well,
and probably felt like y'all were pretty close to you know,
taking that next step there as well.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know actually and them.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm the type of person I always feel
like the head coach like he got a lot of
stuff to do. So I usually have my conversations with
the head coach like on the side, like a little
small conversations or I don't usually have like the real
big conversation so after the season. So really just like
after after every season or like after every couple of games,
I'll just be in his office, like, well, can I
what you think I could do to get better? Even
though you know, Jimbo he not a defensive coach, but
you know he still he don't coach some guys, So
just really just trying to learn from a you know,
he already got it, So.
Speaker 2: What did it? Uh?
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing, right because like your college career
is over, the NFL thing is just beginning now, so
I know it's not really time to reflect yet, But
what did it mean to you to be named a
consensus first team All American?
Speaker 2: I mean very very rare. That is the highest of college.
Speaker 8: Football Oh, I mean it's a blessing. I said there,
From the day I found out what it was, It's
a blessing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I'm just thankful to be in the situation. And I
feel like I feel like some of my work from
this past off season it really showed this year.
Speaker 3: That's why I was able to learn it.
Speaker 4: What did you do in the off season that you
feel like maybe crank things up or took it to
an even higher level.
Speaker 8: Like were talking about the preparation. You know, I feel
like I prepared a little bit better go around, and
I feel like I don't kind of finally found like
that I kind of found my rhythm, you know, and
just trying to get better every day.
Speaker 5: Anything in this combine training process that you're like, Okay,
this is something I want to identify to make sure
that by the time I get to Indie and the Combine,
I'm doing this really well because I feel like I
can get a little bit better there. Oh yeah, I
read my scout report. That's the first thing I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really yeah, I ain't read the positives.
Speaker 2: But what they say, what are the negatives?
Speaker 3: What motivated you? Oh?
Speaker 8: You know, they they would just saying all kind of
stuy I play I played high, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't use my hands enough.
Speaker 8: A lot of stuff. But you know, I gotta tell
you what the grain of salt. That's part of being coachtable,
you know. Yeah, the coaches in the league, they don't
seem the best, so obviously if they see somebody gotta
work on i'ma work on it and I plan on
showing that this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, man?
Speaker 2: Uh what was it?
Speaker 4: Okay, last one here but soft on the way out?
What was your what was the best kind of memory
or moment of the season this last year for you?
Speaker 3: Was it beat?
Speaker 2: Was it beating the hell out of Georgia?
Speaker 3: Honestly?
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, that was that probably had to been my
my favorite experience, and not even just because we won
the game. It was just h it was kind of
like just the city of Oxford, you know. It was
you could tell like that they really did something for them. Yeah,
you know what' so I would just glad to beat
there and be a part of it, you know that.
I don't know when the last time. Uh oh, missad
b Georgia a fly. We all had their mission to
go out there and dominate them.
Speaker 4: Well dominate y'all did, as did you Walter all year long,
Memphis finest can unanimous as I said, consensus First Team
All American Walter Nolan Walter, thank you so much for
the best of.
Speaker 2: Luct this week.
Speaker 3: Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: All Right, when we get back here on ot B,
we can talk a little AFC Championship. Uh.
Speaker 2: We still got to get to the Saints coach search.
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Speaker 1: What's some other stuff mixed in off the bench with
Hester and T Bob.
Speaker 4: This is O TV Live from Mobile, Alabama. We had
the recent senior Old Sun starting to come up. We're
here at the convention center. Uh and we just talked
to Walter Nolan.
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Speaker 4: Uh well, actually real quick, Chad saying that it's Mozart's birthday.
I don't know that A happy birthday. Can I know
Mozart died at thirty five?
Speaker 2: I do know. I guess. I haven't seen Amadeis in
a while. I'm a Dais.
Speaker 4: You have ever seen the old Mozart movie that came
out in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Very good movie. I think it won Best Picture. Actually
very movie.
Speaker 4: I don't I can see his face. I do not
know his I do not know his name, but it's
a very good movie. I guess I haven't seen it
in a while because I did not know he died
at thirty five.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I'm thirty five, but that'd be thirty six.
Not as old as Rivers. She's thirty seven, so you know.
Speaker 4: Anyway, AFC Championship Bill's Chiefs yesterday the main event Josh Allen,
Patrick Mahomes and it is insane to me, Jake, how
in the world can the Chiefs and the Bills be
so close? Remember entering this game, Taylor gave us the
stat the other day. Entering this game, if you look
at the past ten games the two teams have played,
it was five and five, so five each with exactly
two hundred and fifty one points scored each. With about
half of the fourth quarter left, this game was twenty
nine to twenty nine, meaning with about ten point seventy
five games played they were still dead even. And yet
once again, when it matters most in the playoffs, it
is the Chiefs getting on the Chiefs now four to
o patrom moves four to o against Josh Allen in
the playoffs, it just boggles the mind that you could
be so close overall and yet at these moments you're
always on the wrong side. Like, how does Jake in
your NFL mind? What do the Chiefs do where they're
able to create that sort of consistency in the postseason.
Speaker 5: I wish I could tell you because we've never really
seen it outside Oh, I mean, you know of our
lifetime the Patriots, like and we saw them do that, and.
Speaker 2: I mean the Cowboys when I was young.
Speaker 5: I mean they certainly would they win three of four
something like that, but just this, but this is like
the longevity of how long they've done this, Like the
Patriots are the only other time. And first off, you
got to have a Hall of Fame head coach. They
both have that. You to have a Hall of Fame quarterback,
they both have that. And also like that hall of
fame quarterback just makes those around him better.
Speaker 2: He just does like he finds a way.
Speaker 5: Like yesterday, Patrick Mahomes had eleven carries, Like that's what
he had to do with Patrick Mahomes, But like that's
what they do. They find a way. He had two
scoring plays on the ground, Like just doesn't happen. They
weren't scrambles. A lot of it was designed quarterback run,
and so man, they just they have the combination that
you have to have coaching quarterback, and they just make
all those players around them better.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who it is.
Speaker 5: Now he's got the Travis Kelsey, just like Gronk was
there for Brady.
Speaker 2: You have your stars, but t Bobb.
Speaker 5: It is so impressive how it doesn't matter if somebody
gets signed off the street, if it's somebody else's trash,
it does not matter.
Speaker 2: Once they get to Kansas City.
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, they make that player better and
then Spags does it on the defensive side. Right, And
he hasn't always been great in his career. I think
a lot of Saints fans will remember the year he
was there as their coordinator.
Speaker 4: But that's kind of the weird part about Spagnola though.
The Saints year is such an aberration, right yeah, because
he was the Giants de coordinator both Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, So this man won two Super Bowls? There?
How many has Kansas City won? Four? This will be
three in a's three in a row.
Speaker 4: They do, by the way, more on that because I
don't think people well, actually, I'm sure you heard it
now afterward the weekend of games, you know this, But like,
I don't think a lot of people would have known
last week that nobody's ever three peeded in the NFL
because we have seen dynasys. We've seen the Patriots, like
you mentioned the Cowboys success in the nineties.
Speaker 2: We've seen people get close.
Speaker 4: But this is actually the first time ever there's been
nine teams that have won back to back Super Bowls.
This is the first time ever that a team that
that same team has even made a third straight. So
credit to the Kansas City Chiefs. But yeah, as far
as Bagnola goes, I mean, the man's got how many
Super Bols to his.
Speaker 2: Name now, five six something like that.
Speaker 4: And Chris Jones said after gave yes, and he was like, look, man,
until y'all like, if nobody's gonna hire this dude to
be a head coach, fine, he's the key to the success.
He's gonna keep winning. And I don't know what he does, Jake,
because I've been like, uh, we just watched it live.
Speaker 2: We're driving mobile. I need to go watch the film.
Speaker 4: But like you hear Romo breaking down that final blitzer,
he brings the corner and I guess how he set
up was so unexpected because Rome was in you would
never expect that guy to come. And but it's weird
because you know he's blitzing. You know he's gonna bring it,
and so he's cover from somewhere. So how is Spags
Because normally though that gets you beat again, the best
quarterbacks like that, they will they will pick you apart.
But somehow he consistently engineers that pressure to where the
guy looks hapless, and he does it in the biggest
moments game on the line.
Speaker 2: Gotta have the.
Speaker 4: Stuff credited Josh Allen somehow putting that ball in Kk's hands.
H But yeah, I mean, what a call and what
execution by Spags and the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 5: The thing that he does really well is he brings it.
Speaker 2: Sure like he's always.
Speaker 5: Trying to create chaos, but he brings d blitz when
you're not expecting it, like the corner cat like they
had shown that all game long, and you know Georgia
did that. The Texas and college football this year they
kind of did the same thing, like they made it
such a point of focus in the middle, double a gap,
mugs and all of a sudden, when the game was
on the line, they brought the corner cat with the
double a's and they dropped him. Like that's what Spags does,
but he does it consistently every single game, not just
a one off. And even a guy like Josh Allen
who processes it, you know, incredibly fast and knows it
and can get you in the right call when you're
not expecting cornercat because they hadn't shown it all games longer,
the biggest play, even the best quarterback is going to
get pulled by it, and Josh did. Now credit to Josh,
he's an alien and hes still got to pass off
and kaid right in the hands, but still like he
wasn't ready for that play. And that's what Spags does
at an elite level, because think about like who he
has he I mean, outside of Jones, he doesn't have
a lot.
Speaker 2: Of cast of characters.
Speaker 4: I mean, at one point it was Sorenson, uh I
forgd out about one of the names.
Speaker 2: That people talk about.
Speaker 5: That guy like Trent McDuffie's a gosh, he's he's a
top corner. But I mean you start looking at some
of the guys that they have and they just got
really good players that buy into the system and give
you everything that they've got, and I means to the
quarterback Jerry Sneed was all some last playoff run like
it's it's it's Chris Jones is kind of the only commonality.
He's probably like the only Hall of Famer that they've
had on that side of the football, which he's like,
he said after the game that he thinks the reason
why the Chiefs are so incredible is quite simply just
they're so comfortable in high pressure moments.
Speaker 2: They've been doing it for so long.
Speaker 4: They've done it, they practice it all the time they've
been in the play This is their seventh straight AFC championship.
What an advantage that is when you get to these moments,
as when you go to something seven years in a row,
it's going to feel more commonplace where for a lot
of these guys, maybe not the Bills as much, but
for a lot of these guys the first time that
you've ever been there. So yeah, the Chief's best trait
in this entire run is there. It's their intangibles and stuff.
We talked about their ability to stack small wins that
at the end of the game end up creating those
kind of consistent one score differences to create a win,
because that's really what a lot of the NFL comes
down to, is how do you do in one score games?
Speaker 2: And they just thrive.
Speaker 4: They thrive in the one score game, and they approach
you with the confidence of someone who knows they are
gonna win, doesn't hope, doesn't think sure knows, Oh no,
we're and obviously hopefield advantage.
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, Which that's the closest to a college stadium that
would have in the NFL. Like you know, the Supernome
is great in the NFL. Don't get me wrong. When
the Saints are rocking, it is really good, Hines. When
the Steelers are rocking, it's really good. There's a couple that,
you know, can rival a college stadium. Arrowhead's the only
one that meets those standards of like an SEC at
night type stadium. And you heard it. We were talking
about it on the way here. You could hear it
through the phone, just how loud it was. But I
am going back and and kind of looking exactly at
what they did and again at double a mugs, right,
and so in that last play, and so they put
two linebackers in a gap. And here's here's what got
Josh Allen Because you got a press corner. Anytime you
have a press corner, you're thinking, Okay, he is, you know,
likely to blitz.
Speaker 4: But it's a tight formation, right, so he's got a
short continue yeah, short too, you know too from away
but into the boundary. But the reason that he doesn't
believe that that corner is going to come even though
he's pressed is because in his mind, Okay, the safety
is about eleven yards.
Speaker 2: Yea, he's not stack directly.
Speaker 5: So if the safety's at eleven yards and you have
a fourth and five, you're like, he's not gonna give
me a five yard hitch. Yeah, there's no way in
the world our five yard out. And so that guy's
not gonna come because if he does, it's easy. I'm
gonna throw it to this guy. So you eliminate that
corner out of your mind. And also you're like, okay, well,
you got two mugged guys right there in the a gap.
Speaker 2: They can't drop to that either.
Speaker 5: They can't drop and cover that receiver on the short side,
So I'm gonna be able to hit a five yard
hitch a five yard out all day long, and so
in your process, because when you're playing it at that level,
you have to eliminate some things just based off alignment
and situation. And so that's another thing that Spags does.
He goes away from what anybody would typically do because
typically there's no way in hell that that safety is
gonna be able to play my receiver if that corner comes,
and well he does, who.
Speaker 2: Ends up playing him?
Speaker 5: And so Josh gets kind of surprised there and then look,
he immediately goes down and yeah, he's just banking on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you had an eliminate, you could have hit
him right away for the first down. Yes, they won
just by they won with the with the pressure.
Speaker 5: With the unexpected pressure, and they were like, hey, if
you run a five yard out here, you got it's
basically like we're gonna give you the first down.
Speaker 2: But we know what this can create as well.
Speaker 5: And so Buffalo doesn't end up running They run a slant,
which I hate the concept of running a slant on
that side. It's the only route that's kind of going
there because you have nothing really coming back to the
right side. So I don't love the concept. But the
Chiefs were like, hey, we're going to surprise you. We're
going to give you the five yard out if you
want it, but you are not going to know that
we are bringing this corner off the edge.
Speaker 4: Beautiful call, beautiful defensive call to send the Chiefs to
their third straight Super Bowl again. First time you've ever
had a back to back winner go to a third
straight and the poor Bills man Jay cow about seventy
eight wins over the past six seasons, that's the most
in NFL history without making a Super Bowl appearance. Josh
Allen seven playoff wins are the most ever by a
quarterback without making a super Bowl appearance. And you know,
the older you get, the heavier the lift feels. I mean,
how much work you put in to get to this point.
The Bills, it's it's not quite the nineties, but again
suffering within some really just spectacular success. If I'm a
Bills fan, I'm just praying and sacrificing to the football
gods that you know I can end up with my
Manning moment where he eventually breaks through Brady, because it
felt like that for years in that rivalry as well,
and Manning him getting a couple.
Speaker 2: Here's oping that Allen can as well, at least if
you're a Bills fan.
Speaker 5: Gosh, I mean when we were growing up, they lost
four straight Super Bowl So I can't imagine what that
felt like for Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Brucevan
all those great Bills teams. But it's a different situation
if you're Josh Allen and the compared to some of
the other teams, because you feel like you've gotten to
that point and you can't figure it out.
Speaker 2: Are you ever going to be able to figure it out?
Speaker 5: And you're like, we do everything right and we can't
get over this Chiefs hump. Like even the Bengals they
got over at once, and so like there's a different
belief for them if they get to that point. But
it is so hard to get to that point in
the NFL season. You put in so much work and
then all of a sudden it's just taken away from you.
Speaker 2: You don't have anything to show for.
Speaker 5: Like the Commanders today, they're probably reflecting you, like, Okay,
you know what, we got the stud rookie quarterback, We
got eighty plus million salary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, we got people locked up.
Speaker 5: Hey, we'll be back even if you're not like you
have that conversation today for the Bills today, they're like,
what the hell do we have to do to beat
this team?
Speaker 2: Well, what do we have to do?
Speaker 4: Because they're playing well in the games too, It's not
like they're playing poorly.
Speaker 2: They came back from eleven down to take that lead.
Speaker 4: But then it's always something like this game, well twenty
two twenty one, they have the fourth down at about
midfield and they get soughed, right, I mean, you make
that play. Who knows, maybe you win that game. So
credits Kansas City. Another classic in a rivalry that is
not one sided unless it's a playoff game. But shout
out to the Chiefs man real quick here before you
go to break, Jake, are you cheering.
Speaker 2: For the Eagles?
Speaker 4: The Eagles have never been like underdog or likable team,
and yet with the Evil Empire that the Chiefs look
more and more like a kind of like. I even
have Giants fans saying that they are cheering for for
the Birds.
Speaker 5: Let's say we got a Giants podcast next talk. We
should go ask those guys who they're rooting for. Everybody
is tired of the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Like nobody really wanted to see them there.
Speaker 5: It's probably like storylines and ratings, WI probably good for
the Chiefs and we're gonna be down there in New
Orleans covering the game in a couple of weeks, and
so you know, it would be good for us probably,
But I would sacrifice some content for the Bills to
have made the Super Bowl because my god, and uh,
just the same thing over and over again, and.
Speaker 2: It's it's the same people too.
Speaker 5: Like even with like Brady and the Patriots, like like
the stars outside of Brady, you kind of switch them up,
but you still got Kelsey, you still got Jones, you
still got obviously Andy Reid, like you still have like
the stars.
Speaker 4: They're still the stars for this, I think, I guess
you're right. Even in the in the Patriot Dynasty, it
was because.
Speaker 2: It's a bit more spread out.
Speaker 4: It was more rotating cast, like Welker and then Edelman
and then and then I mean Randy Moss obviously at
one point. Yeah, Troy Brown, like you go all the way,
you know, it's like the kind of very beginning of it,
and Dion branch and and ames like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to Corey Dillon didn't he catch it.
Speaker 4: I just feel like ty Law was a part of
that secondary where they beat me in the playoffs. But
it's because they would just like p I every play.
They were just like it was like early Legion of
Boom set. They're like, Nah, you ain't gonna call it
all the time. We just gonna get pisical every single play. Anyway,
whatever super Bowl set, Chief Seagulls again, what's gonna happen.
We'll break it down to the next one weeks score.
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coming up as well weekend winners ton on today's show.
But I want to give a shout out to one
of our former teammates, my guy, Calvin Sheppard, dude ol
Shep as he was named Detroit Lions new defensive coordinator.
For those who don't remember Shep, him and Perry Riley
made up one of the most fearsome linebacking duos in
college football back around, you know, like kind of was
probably like five to nine, maybe six to ten. It
could be a year off there. Two guys ended up
playing in the league. Perry for I think over a decade,
Kelvin goes into coaching. He was at Lush, was like
a player personnel guy. Then he caught on and some
role with the Lion's staff. And if you remember Jake,
we saw him here years ago when the bad teams
used to have to come coach the Senior Bowl, the
lines were awful at the time, and you know, we're
hanging out, we're drinking in the bars. That's why this
place is crazy. All the NFL coaches just being normal
people here. And I remember him telling us, like, yo,
like Aaron Glynn, this dude's different, and like Dan Campbell,
like this dude's different.
Speaker 2: Like we got a.
Speaker 4: Really good staff, and you could feel the chemistry kind
of in the room as they're all kicking it. Now
years later, the Lions are incredible. Everybody knows Dan Campbell's awesome.
Aaron Glenn's now the head coach of the New York Jets,
and Kelvin Sheppard is the new Detroit Lions defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5: Man's so happy for our guys, shep And I mean.
Speaker 2: What a quick rise. Yeah, coaching ranks, you're right.
Speaker 5: I mean he's player personnel at LSU in twenty twenty,
and kind of shortly after he retired, and then immediately
that next year he's like.
Speaker 2: All right, I want to coach.
Speaker 5: I don't think the like player of personnel side of
things is what I want to do. So he's the
outside linebacker coaching twenty one, and then he gets a
full time linebackers coach coaching job in twenty twenty two.
He holds that down until obviously now the defensive coordinator position.
But I mean that's a quick rise, yeah, and that
just kind of shows you how impressed Dan Campbell and
everybody was with Shepping. If I'm not mistaken, I think
Shep was actually with Miami when Dan Campbell was the
interim head coach there, So I think that's where that
relationship started. And obviously he had to impress Dan Campbell
because even like going from a player personnel in college
to an outside linebackers coach, like that's his first coaching gig,
was outside linebackers coach in the NFL. Shep certainly impressed
Dan Campbell when they were together.
Speaker 4: And what's crazy, Jake is like on a personal friend level, Look,
sometimes the guys who go on to be the great coaches,
you still love their teammates, But a lot of times
they're kind of nerdy, you know, they're so football obsessed
that you could tell, Like some guys are like, oh,
like he's going to be a coach, you could just
talent there.
Speaker 5: But but like our boy August, who's gonna be coaching
in the Senior.
Speaker 2: Bowl this year.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's with San Francisco. He's gonna be one of
the coaches. Like I could tell August, he played fullback.
August is going to be a coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The dude's taking every single note on a yellow pad.
He's nerdy about this stuff. He is going to be
a coach.
Speaker 4: Shep was always one of the brodies, which is crazy,
like like like like we I mean, and he still is.
Speaker 2: He's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's it's it's such an interesting uh dynamic
where it kind of subverts a lot of your expectations.
I mean, he was always a.
Speaker 2: Very smart football player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just again he was one of the brodies
personality wise.
Speaker 2: Is interesting. Even how he looks. Dude, he's got the.
Speaker 5: Uh oh, we gotta get this man at lost know
what just happened.
Speaker 2: Saw some incredible dreads going on.
Speaker 4: Dude to shout out my guy, Kelvin Sheppard, defensive coordinator
for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: Awesome job, dude, I hope he's down here.
Speaker 5: When need to text chef when you see if he's
down here, man, because we need to we need to
help him celebrate Like that is a big, big deal man,
the fact that he is an NFL defensive coordinator for
one of the best teams in the NFL. Yeah, like
the Lions still have star power, the those their coaches,
but they still got the Jimmies and Joe's so.
Speaker 4: Shout out, yeah, let's and a lot of pressure on
him as well now obviously to live up to that
Lion Stevens and Aaron Glen and whatnot. All right, our
one in the books here and Mobile Alabama live at
the Reese's Senior Bowl. Uh we may I think today's
interview sleep maybe a little lighter, as guys are getting in town.
A lot of meeting citing no practice today, but we'll
start bringing you a practice reports tomorrow. A lot of
LSU players here. Remember we already had Walter Nolan in here.
He said Will Campbell was the best off the line
and he faced all year long.
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