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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say a bunch of things that probably

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say, but but that's what keeps it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you watched any other annual shareholder meeting? Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like if you need to go to sleep. Sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that other shareholder meetings are like snoozefest, but ours

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<v Speaker 1>are bangers. Look, this is sick. Yeah, We're got like

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<v Speaker 1>the cyberpunk nightclub here with real robots just standing there

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<v Speaker 1>and milling around and dancing and round out our engineering

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<v Speaker 1>headquarters in palab Alto. The robots just walking around the

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<v Speaker 1>office twenty four to seven with no one minding them.

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<v Speaker 1>They just and then they go charge themselves. And Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of Optimists, I like, I said, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be something else. I think it's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest product of all time by far. Yeah, so bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than cell phones, bigger than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the way to think about it is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Every human on earth is gonna want to have their

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<v Speaker 1>own personal R two D two C three field, So

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't. But actually, optimists will be even better than

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<v Speaker 1>the like O R two D two would beep at

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<v Speaker 1>you and hard to figure out what is good talking

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<v Speaker 1>about three field to translate, but Optimist is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, everyone's gonna want one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in terms of industry providing products and services,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably I don't know, three to five

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<v Speaker 1>robots in industry for everyone that's a personal robot. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there could be tens of billions of Optimist robots

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<v Speaker 1>out there now. Obviously it's very important we pay close

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<v Speaker 1>attention to safety here because we do want the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars movie, not.

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<v Speaker 2>The Gim Cameron movie. I love Jim Cameron's movies.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, So we're gonna launch on the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>production ramp of any product, of any large complex manufacturer

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<v Speaker 1>product ever and starting with building a million unit production

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<v Speaker 1>line in Fremont, and that's Line one, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>ten million unit per year production line here on the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we're gonna put one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>unit production line, maybe on Mars, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna literally get to one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>a year, maybe even a billion a year. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get to the five second cycle time. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of cars. So these will be everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. Oh, and wanted, We wanted to look futuristic,

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<v Speaker 1>so like it changes the look of the roads.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. The Yeah, the ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at what Optimists is, what's required to

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<v Speaker 1>make Optimists and the various ingredients. What do you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to make to do high volume humanoid robot production.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worth considering that.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the cars we make are already robots, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are four wheeled robots. So Tesla is already the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>robot manufacturer in the world because every car we make

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<v Speaker 1>is a robot.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you break it down to the fundamental.

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<v Speaker 1>Elements, you've got batteries, power electronics, motors, gearboxes, you've got connectivity,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a vision based AI high optimists and all

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<v Speaker 1>the various pieces that you need for a humanoid robot.

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<v Speaker 1>You need the AI chip, you need the AI software,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to build manage a large fleet. And so

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<v Speaker 1>really Optimus is a robot with arms and legs as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to a robot with wheels. Telsa's ideally suited I

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<v Speaker 1>think to make to succeed in this arena, you will

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<v Speaker 1>see certainly many companies showing demonstration robots. There's really three

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<v Speaker 1>things that are super difficult about robots. One is the

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<v Speaker 1>engineering of the forum in hand, because the human hand

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<v Speaker 1>is an incredible thing. Actually, it's super dexterous engineering the

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<v Speaker 1>hand really well, the real world AI, and then volume manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are generally the things that are missing one or

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<v Speaker 1>more of those things missing from other companies. So Telsa

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<v Speaker 1>is the only one that has all three of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So this is the Optimist kind of initial it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a prototype production line.

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<v Speaker 2>The high volume production line.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be very automated, obviously, but this is really the

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<v Speaker 1>production line that we use to make the prototypes. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a sort of rough sense for what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to build the robot.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to pull the finger.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, as I've said before, I think once we

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<v Speaker 1>reach about a million units per year of sustained production,

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<v Speaker 1>or in excess of that, I think probably the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of production is around twenty thousand dollars in curry your dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>so this will be something very affordable. And yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I think Optimists will ultimately increase the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the economy, probably by a factor of ten or

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<v Speaker 1>or next year we start production with Optimist version three.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you're seeing here is Optimists version two

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<v Speaker 1>point five. Optimist three is an incredibly good design. The

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<v Speaker 1>tales the engineering team is amazing. When you see Optimists three, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it will seem as though that there's someone like a

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<v Speaker 1>person in a robot outfit, which is how we started

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<v Speaker 1>with Optimists.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is going to be something special.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Optimist Optimus four that hopefully starts production in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, and then Optimus five and twenty eight, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an annual release cycle with significant improvements with

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<v Speaker 1>each one and gigantic increases in the scale of production. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable abundance via AI in robotics, that's the future. Credible

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<v Speaker 1>and as I think most people here know, the safety

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<v Speaker 1>statistics show that miles driven on FSD are much safer

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<v Speaker 1>than miles driven without it. What this will translate to

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately is saving the lives of millions of people and

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<v Speaker 1>preventing hundreds of millions of accidents.

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<v Speaker 2>So a massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Increase in lives solved and tragedy is avoided.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people here have tried fourteen point one? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, Yeah, you can see the even with

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<v Speaker 1>the point releases, it's getting quite a bit better. Should

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty smooth at this point, but really fourteen point

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<v Speaker 1>two is there are major changes to fourteen point two

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<v Speaker 1>and then fourteen point three, and I think by fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>point three is when we'll really be at the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you can just pretty much pull asleep and wake

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<v Speaker 1>up at your destination. And then I've been putting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time into the new Tesla chip design because

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<v Speaker 1>in order to have a functional robot, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a great AI chip, and it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>an inexpensive chip, and it needs to be very power efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>So we believe the AI five chip will be probably

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<v Speaker 1>about a third of the power of say something like

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<v Speaker 1>a Blackwell and a video Blackwell, which is a great

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<v Speaker 1>chip for roughly a comparable performance and much less than

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<v Speaker 1>ten pescent of the cost. So this is a chip

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<v Speaker 1>that is very much optimized for the Tesla AI software stack.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not meant to be a general purpose chip.

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<v Speaker 1>It's meant to be an amazing chip for the Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>AI software And a couple of things that I think

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<v Speaker 1>make like how E Tailless are able to achieve such

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<v Speaker 1>an improvement. I think it is because because we are specialized,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to Nvidia has to serve the superset

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<v Speaker 1>of all past and future customers, so all of their requirements,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the software that they're written, has to work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very difficult problem, whereas we just need

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<v Speaker 1>to make it work for our software, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to simplify the chip dramatically. And then we also think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're unique in this, but we have an

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<v Speaker 1>integer based system, and integer operations are fundamentally more efficient

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<v Speaker 1>than floating point operations, so we can do floating point

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<v Speaker 1>but we but the vast majority of our inference is

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<v Speaker 1>done in integer, which is, if you're familiar with sort

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<v Speaker 1>of logic gates like the simplicity of integer, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>integer is much more power eficient and much more silicon efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to you actually have to train for

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<v Speaker 1>integer inference, which everyone else is training for flooding point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a niche technical detail, but it's actually very important.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be a great chip.

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<v Speaker 1>So this chip will be made in basically in four places, TISMC, Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung Career, TSMC Arizona, and TSOMC Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And we already know what improvements to make for AI six.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm hopeful that we can within less than the

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<v Speaker 1>year of AI five starting production, we can actually transition

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<v Speaker 1>in the same fab to AI six and double all

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<v Speaker 1>of the performance metrics. I'm super hardcore on chips right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you may be able to tell chips on the brain,

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<v Speaker 1>I dream about chips literally. I can drow the at

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<v Speaker 1>least the broad rush stroke physical design of the A

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<v Speaker 1>I five chip by well by heart.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, it's a good chip. It's good chips, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is really key. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I'm trying to figure out is

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<v Speaker 1>how do we make enough chips. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for our the Tesla partners, TSMC and Samsung. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll do something with Intel. We haven't signed any deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's probably worth having discussions with Intel. But even

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<v Speaker 1>when we extrapolate the best case scenario for chip production

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<v Speaker 1>from our suppliers, it's still not enough. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>we may have to do a Tesla Terra fab. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Gigabit way bigger. I can't see any other way

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the volume of chips that that we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, So I think we're probably gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>build a gigantic chip fab Yeah, gotta be done. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff I've already talked about. Yep, we've

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<v Speaker 1>done a tremendous amount for sustainable energy and that is

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<v Speaker 1>only going to grow over time. The world is moving

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<v Speaker 1>towards a solar battery economy, which is ultimately the that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's where, that's where it's going to go anyway. But

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<v Speaker 1>what tells us do is accelerate, accelerate that outcome. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people don't understand quite how much energy comes from the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Sun is ninety nine point eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>all mass in the solar system being zero point one percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and then zero point one percent is miscellaneous, Earth being

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<v Speaker 1>in the miscellaneous category. So the total amount of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>So some nice people, what say, will build the fusion

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<v Speaker 1>reactors on Earth, it's actually the giant fusion reactor in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky is basically impossible to beat to such agree

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<v Speaker 1>that even if you could burn Jupiter in a thermon

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear reactor, the amount of energy produced by the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>would still round up to one hundred percent. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>much energy the Sun produces. So solar power is necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>the future, and I think there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of solar powered AI satellites, and I think Tells

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<v Speaker 1>is going to play a role in that. We've obviously

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<v Speaker 1>refreshed the product line so S three x Y. If

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<v Speaker 1>if people haven't tried the well S three x or

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<v Speaker 1>Y or the Cybertry, I recommend at least getting a

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<v Speaker 1>try out the full self driving and I think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be blown away to those who do not. If you

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<v Speaker 1>might be listening and don't have a Tesla, you should

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<v Speaker 1>try one. And of course we've got the cyber Truck,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the toughest truck of all time. It's literally bulletproof,

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<v Speaker 1>faster than a Portion nine eleven and can out toe

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<v Speaker 1>at Ford F three fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a great car, great truck.

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<v Speaker 1>And then starting next year, we manufacture the Tesla Semi.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is already we already have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>prototype Tesla Semis in operation. PepsiCo and other companies have

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<v Speaker 1>been using the a Tesla Semi for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will start volume production at our Northern Nevada

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<v Speaker 2>And then battery packs. So the if you look at total.

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<v Speaker 1>The supercharger team has done great work expanding that and

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<v Speaker 1>We care a lot about their well being, and like

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<v Speaker 1>Catch the vibe, and the vibe in the tails of

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a good company. We've also put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>got here on this site, the Cathode factory, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and we're just making sure that we promised

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<v Speaker 1>And then also at this factory we also make the

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be used in the cybercab and also an optimus.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going well. But we continue obviously to get

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<v Speaker 1>cells from many suppliers. It's kind of like the chip

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. Will take as many chips as our suppliers

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<v Speaker 1>making ourselves or we get stuck. That's the Tesla semi factory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be pretty cool to see these going

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the basic plan, sustainable abundance for all.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess we can go into Queen now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>at the next annual shoulder meeting. We'll have optimists takes

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<v Speaker 1>some of the questions. That'd be cool. So let's see Alejohn,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your help.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Yeah, please go ahead, is it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, let me hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>What a year has been?

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<v Speaker 4>Just a year ago President Trump got elected on the

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<v Speaker 4>same day. These twelve months have been a heck of

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<v Speaker 4>twelve months. Thank you to the board because I think

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<v Speaker 4>they had to weather quite some storms. Institutional investors, and

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<v Speaker 4>obviously thank you to you, and we stand with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we showed it and we will show.

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<v Speaker 2>It at.

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<v Speaker 4>So we would like to express a wish please. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a nice venue. We love coming to the factory

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it's actually great we're doing this at

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<v Speaker 4>the factory. But there are thousands of retail investors who

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<v Speaker 4>are crying because they cannot they come to me. I

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<v Speaker 4>love taking the Mama, but I now give it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Please organize a bigger venue, a bigger than Berkshire, and

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<v Speaker 4>we will do better than Berkshire.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure we can pay. Yeah, see, Tessa will be

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<v Speaker 1>very bigger than Berkshire. Long term, it's gonna be naughty,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. We'll do the next one were able in

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah, like the yeah, maybe they're downtown arena or

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<v Speaker 4>We want to make sure that you're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I just we.

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<v Speaker 4>But we want to party. And if you can bring

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<v Speaker 4>the other Elon companies there as well, let's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Would really appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much for listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon as a father.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to first thank you for the everything

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<v Speaker 6>you're doing in the world, especially freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>And one question. Will you a Tesla ever consider FSD

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<v Speaker 6>tied to an owner's account rather than a vehicle to

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<v Speaker 6>encourage more frequent upgrades, provided a transfer is to only

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<v Speaker 6>a brain new Tesla vehicle, while flustering brand loyalty. If

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<v Speaker 6>the vehicle has sold the trade of about upgrade to

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<v Speaker 6>another Tesla f S, the ownership would end.

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<v Speaker 1>We have done that a few times. I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>could extend it again. All right, we'll extend it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>extend it for at least another quarter and then play

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<v Speaker 1>it by a year after that.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, howdy Elon, congrats on not having to show

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<v Speaker 7>up to work for free anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we now have over a forty billion dollar war chest.

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<v Speaker 7>We're cash flow positive and remain that. We know how

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<v Speaker 7>you feel about FIAT already.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it time to take a look at bitcoin?

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<v Speaker 7>What's your belief on that? Also, you've hinted towards that

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<v Speaker 7>there's a wheelchair accessible model in the works where you're

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<v Speaker 7>referring to the Reboven, and if so, can we please

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<v Speaker 7>speed up production to help the least fortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously we need a vehicle that's big enough to

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the Reboven or Robust or whatever we call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like we're slowing down because we want to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down. It's like we're spending in like gazillion plates here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it would be very cool because

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<v Speaker 1>I think esthetically as well, it's just it's just would

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<v Speaker 2>So it won't be long before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Make that, but it's but since we do have optimists,

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<v Speaker 1>the we've got cybercaf optimists and semi all next year

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<v Speaker 1>it will probably have to be maybe the year that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of years from now or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But we certainly will make a wheelchair accessible vehicle.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Hi, so she I was privileged enough to attend

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<v Speaker 9>the investor day, And you've also talked about the factory

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<v Speaker 9>being a product, and I saw the dry cathode method

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<v Speaker 9>in that and also would often be working on that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess the dry cathode man that's turned out

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<v Speaker 1>Will have some cost advantage relative to wet cathode. But

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<v Speaker 1>if had to wind the clock back, I would probably

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<v Speaker 1>make it capable of high buluing production with super higher liability. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will be we will be scaling up battery

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<v Speaker 1>ou suppliers as well, because we're going to be ramping

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<v Speaker 2>Now much greater than a regular car.

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<v Speaker 1>The killer app really is for people, can you text

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<v Speaker 1>and drive or can you sleep and drive? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>can the car take you to your destination? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>Have to drive it?

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<v Speaker 1>And before we allow the car to be driven without

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, we're on the cusp of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know said that a few times, but we really

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<v Speaker 1>are at this point and you can feel it for

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<v Speaker 1>yourselves with the fourteen point one release. So the what

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<v Speaker 1>aspirationally would aim to increase vehicle production by about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>This is a gigantic increase in output, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>the entire supply chain has to move in unison with

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<v Speaker 1>that with that increase in volume, and the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>producing a large, complex product is that it moves as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as the least lucky, dumbest element in the entire system.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's ten thousand plus items. But this, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this really is a new It's not just a new

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<v Speaker 1>chapter for Teesla. It's a new book, and that new

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<v Speaker 1>book is massively increasing vehicle production and ramping up OPTIMS

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<v Speaker 1>production faster than any things ever been wrapped up before

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<v Speaker 1>in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Elon, thank you, Thank you from all of us.

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<v Speaker 10>The retail shareholders really care and so echo the sentiment

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<v Speaker 10>of a larger venue work can come as a testament

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<v Speaker 10>to that. I was here, I was fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 10>be her last year and since then touring the factory

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<v Speaker 10>talking to people that work here. I'm just a retail shareholder,

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<v Speaker 10>but increase my holdings twelve times, So I know it's

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<v Speaker 10>really engaging and gives people confidence, and so thank you

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<v Speaker 10>for having us, and I do echo that I hope

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<v Speaker 10>it grows. Last year, I'm the one that asked you

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<v Speaker 10>about your well being and safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, full life.

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<v Speaker 10>It was a broad general question and it was before

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<v Speaker 10>some of the uncertainty that's unfolded since then. And yes,

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<v Speaker 10>I hope that had a positive impact and we all care.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my question this year.

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<v Speaker 10>You've talked recently about the most mind blowing product demo

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<v Speaker 10>of all time and a shot at being the most

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<v Speaker 10>memorable product.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah ever roadster. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>And I have patiently been waiting on my Founder's series

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<v Speaker 10>Roaster Reservation on behalf of the Founder Series. Guys that

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<v Speaker 10>have stuck in there, can we be unvited to this unveil?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, sure, absolutely definitely.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, yes, all Founders series can be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's the least we could do, frankly for people

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<v Speaker 1>that have along suffering Roaster Reservation holders. The I I

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident in saying it will be the most exciting

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<v Speaker 1>product on bail ever, and I hope that whether it

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<v Speaker 1>goes well or it doesn't go well.

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<v Speaker 10>Some them up here. Can I get the first one?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the it's according to who whoever put down

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<v Speaker 1>the deposits in that sequence, So that's the but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a very early one.

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<v Speaker 2>And the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Roaster is very much like it's not even the icing

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<v Speaker 1>on the cake, it's the cherry on the icing on

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<v Speaker 1>the cake. It's really it's not essential for sustainable abundance.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think there should be very cool technology

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that is, let's wave beyond anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>ever existed. And I think I'd like those even if

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<v Speaker 1>I could never have access to those things, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to know that they exist and see the future happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it will be inspiring to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. And just it's extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>The coolest car if it even is a car that

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<v Speaker 1>is ever that will probably ever exist. Yeah, Eilon, congrats

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<v Speaker 1>on the proposal plan.

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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing. The compensation question.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Chick, the chips will be the limiting factor

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<v Speaker 1>to the future, so on chips and electricity are the

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<v Speaker 1>two limiting factors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we got the.

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<v Speaker 11>Energy and power and energy packs ready to roll. So

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<v Speaker 11>I think on the chips. I think you said TSMC, Samsung,

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<v Speaker 11>perhaps Intel fourteen A and several different sites are a

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<v Speaker 11>couple of US factory sources, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is we're like everyone every day. Yeah yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 11>So I guess the is there an open door in

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<v Speaker 11>the future of investing directly into some of those boundaries.

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<v Speaker 11>And second question, how big is a terraff factory? Can

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<v Speaker 11>you put that in scale? And oh yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 11>TERROR factory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is that we actually have agreed to buy

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<v Speaker 1>all the chips that are made from the FAB, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically a money printing machine for TSMC and Samsung.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like literally the fast you make the trips are faster,

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<v Speaker 1>we sent them money, but it's still not going at

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<v Speaker 1>just fast enough. So that's why I think, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I can see, the only option is to go

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<v Speaker 1>boild some very big chip bab and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to solve memory and packaging too. But otherwise you just

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<v Speaker 1>tap out at whatever the chip production rate is. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess TERROR would be you'd want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be at least one hundred thousand way

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<v Speaker 1>for starts per month size fab and maybe that would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of ten in a complex. So will ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>be a million wafers starts per month? Yeah, exactly. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell when it gets the giggle factor. That's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign that we're onto something special. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised for long term, it's like a million

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<v Speaker 1>wafers a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Hi, I'm a long term investor, so I've been holding

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<v Speaker 12>the shares for twelve years. I worked at the Autopilot

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<v Speaker 12>team development for ten years, and I brought my dad

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<v Speaker 12>here from Brazil. We actually won the testlevision contest with

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<v Speaker 12>the cyber truck b VideA. I hope you got to

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<v Speaker 12>see that at some point. So thanks for the free mode.

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<v Speaker 12>The why, and then my question is about obviously market expansion,

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<v Speaker 12>but not only South America, Brazil, but also into Mars.

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<v Speaker 12>Like with the upcoming rendezvous of Mars and Earth, what's

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<v Speaker 12>going to be in a pillow where we're going to send.

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<v Speaker 1>There, Optimist is going to play a big role Optimists,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think tells the vehicles will play a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Role on the Moon and Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>So for a Moon base and a Mars city, tells

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicles and Optimus robots are natural fit for building

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<v Speaker 1>and operating a Moon base and a Mars city.

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<v Speaker 2>So sorry tyber truck. Also yeah, yeah, it's cyber truck.

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<v Speaker 1>You will need to drive around and pressurized vehicle if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a person inside. But yeah, it'll be something cool

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<v Speaker 1>the next level Moon buggy or my Mars buggy.

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<v Speaker 13>All right, Hi, mister musk GOREV been a fan of

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<v Speaker 13>yours since two thousand and six. I think I saw

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<v Speaker 13>a piece in a popular science magazine. It was really cool,

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<v Speaker 13>and I think I was fifteen at the time. Shareholders.

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<v Speaker 13>Since ten years now, it's been really rewarding. It's changed

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<v Speaker 13>my life, So thank you very much to you and Tesla.

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<v Speaker 13>My question is regarding Tesla's mission for a sustainable future

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<v Speaker 13>as it pertains to autonomy. I personally fully expect a

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<v Speaker 13>deflationary period after unlocked by autonomy, basically both in moving

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<v Speaker 13>humans and goods and whatnot, excluding Optimus even yeah, what

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<v Speaker 13>efforts are is Tesla going to focus on to reduce

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<v Speaker 13>the dollars per mile rough math? I think like thirty

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<v Speaker 13>cents a mile would be really nice. Fifty cents is

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<v Speaker 13>pretty good too, looking at inflation later on, and then

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<v Speaker 13>I guess the second part of that, how low does

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<v Speaker 13>it have to be for people to just stop buying

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<v Speaker 13>cars like where it doesn't make economic sense to do that.

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<v Speaker 13>I expect that to affect economies of scale and then

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<v Speaker 13>further increase the pricing of vehicles they're on out. So like,

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<v Speaker 13>how what is that node at which inflection happens.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of cost per mile?

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<v Speaker 1>We do see a path with a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to get below twenty cents a mile in current ear dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and I someone agree that there's things will probably be

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<v Speaker 1>deflationary as productivity increases. Because you can think of money

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<v Speaker 1>supply as being the ratio of goods and services to

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<v Speaker 1>what's the growth in goods and services versus the growth in.

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<v Speaker 2>The money supply.

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<v Speaker 1>That ratio is basically inflation, and so if the output

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<v Speaker 1>of goods and services grows faster than the money supply,

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<v Speaker 1>then you necessarily have deflation or vice versa. They try

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<v Speaker 1>to make it sound complicated, but it's not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that even government overspending can actually I think government

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<v Speaker 1>overspending will not be will be lower than the increase

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<v Speaker 1>in productivity of goods and services, which would apply to

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<v Speaker 1>deflation as you expect.

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<v Speaker 13>Sorry, what about economies of scale? And be impacted. Has

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<v Speaker 13>to how you respond as an automotive company when people

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<v Speaker 13>stop potentially buying cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Economies, sorry, economies of scale in.

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<v Speaker 13>Like auto manufacturering for instance, it only makes sense if

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<v Speaker 13>lots of people buy your vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the total number of vehicles will decrease.

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<v Speaker 1>This sort of vehicle fleet out there is about two

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<v Speaker 1>billion of cars, but to two billion if you add

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<v Speaker 1>up old corson trucks that are not at a scrap yard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's around two billion, but that number would

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<v Speaker 1>decrease with autonomous vehicles, so the total fleet size would drop.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think miles driven will increase because it's now

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<v Speaker 1>much less painful to travel somewhere. So if somebody's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about traveling across the busy city, then they'll take into

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<v Speaker 1>account how much pain do I have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>If I have to do it through two hours of traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably won't won't do it. But if you're just

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<v Speaker 1>say sitting in a cybercab watching a movie or doing

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<v Speaker 1>some work, then it's just like sitting in a little lounge,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think you'll see probably a significant increase

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<v Speaker 1>in total miles driven. But at the same time, a

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<v Speaker 1>decrease in the total active fleet of vehicles.

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<v Speaker 14>I'd just like to reiterate how grateful we all are

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<v Speaker 14>to have you on board, ready to lead us to

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<v Speaker 14>another seven trillion in market cap at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least at least obviously thank you.

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<v Speaker 14>My question is how much of a concern is it

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<v Speaker 14>that when Cybercabs starts production in Q two next year,

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<v Speaker 14>that regulation won't be there yet to where you can

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<v Speaker 14>deploy cybercabs being produced. Or are you guys confident that

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<v Speaker 14>every cybercab you guys make you'll be able to deploy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the rate at which we'll we receive regulatory

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<v Speaker 1>approval will roughly match the rate of cybercab production. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be maybe a little tight, but that's it's about right.

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<v Speaker 1>And i'd like to thank Way more for paving the

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<v Speaker 1>path here. It's very helpful. Yeah, but I think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to deploy all the cyberclbs that we produce.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is, once it becomes like extremely

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<v Speaker 2>normal in cities, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just going to become like the regulators will have just

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<v Speaker 1>fewer and fewer reasons to say no.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got this, You've got the.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident statistics at scale, and you can show that what

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous miles save lives then, and you've got unequivocal billions

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<v Speaker 1>of miles to prove it, then I think it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for regulators to say no. Yeah, true. All right.

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<v Speaker 15>First of all, Leland, thank you so much for everything

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<v Speaker 15>you do for the Tesla shareholders. Do you see a

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<v Speaker 15>path for optimists to have consciousness downloaded to it?

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<v Speaker 1>You mean human consciousness or yeah, it's not immediate, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you say it down the road, would you be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, with a neural link, have a snapshot

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<v Speaker 1>of what is an approximate snapshot of somebody's mind and

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<v Speaker 1>then upload that approximate snapshot to optimus body. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that at some point that technology becomes possible, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably less than twenty years. Yeah, but of course you

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<v Speaker 1>won't quite be the same, be a little different because

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be in a robot body and the mental snapshot

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<v Speaker 1>will not be precise. It'll be a probably pretty close,

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<v Speaker 1>but not exactly the same. On the other hand, are

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<v Speaker 1>you the same person that you were five years ago? Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things have changed. Yeah, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, if you want to be uploaded to

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<v Speaker 1>a robot body. My guess is that becomes possible.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, hi, elon space based data center is a great idea,

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<v Speaker 16>and I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>I was curious on your views on space based solar power,

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<v Speaker 16>the idea of beaming down microwave energy down to Earth

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<v Speaker 16>so that you can just point it to where it

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<v Speaker 16>needs to go without transmission, without distribution lines, and it's

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<v Speaker 16>more energy dense, so you know, less band use. Just

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<v Speaker 16>curious on your views.

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<v Speaker 1>Space solar power until the advent of something like Starship,

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<v Speaker 1>where the cost per ton to orbit drops by orders

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<v Speaker 1>of magnitude. The cost of getting Pale to orbit is

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<v Speaker 1>so high that there was no possibility of space solar

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<v Speaker 1>power solving anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with Starship, like I see a path to Starship

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<v Speaker 1>cost per ton to orbit being.

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<v Speaker 2>Lower than air flight.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to fly to a long distance airflight

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<v Speaker 1>with cargirls, they took seven forty seven from here to Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>Australia or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think ultimately Starship.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be able to do that trip for less cost

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<v Speaker 1>per ton than an aircraft. So then you so now

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<v Speaker 1>that now you've got that opens up a what very

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<v Speaker 1>wide range of possibilities, like the most obvious one I

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<v Speaker 1>think is actually solar powered AI satellites, So to move

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<v Speaker 1>the AI to orbit and essentially deep space over time,

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<v Speaker 1>because the you can actually access over a billion times

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<v Speaker 1>more energy from the Sun in deep space than you

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<v Speaker 1>can on Earth. The scaling to scale to crterships any

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<v Speaker 1>to make any progress on a crdoship two scale, which

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<v Speaker 1>is using some non trivial amount of energy from the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do space solar power.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you could only beam a tiny amount of that

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<v Speaker 1>back to Earth or you would melt Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>So Earth actually receives a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiny amount of the Sun's energy, where Earth is a tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Dust mote you see, like Earth to.

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<v Speaker 1>Scale with the Sun, we look like a little crumb.

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<v Speaker 2>So the to scale civilization.

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<v Speaker 1>Like said to be at all relevant on a cordship

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<v Speaker 1>of two scale, like to even use a millionth of

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<v Speaker 1>a percent of the Sun's energy, you really have to

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<v Speaker 1>be have your soul power in deep space and you

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<v Speaker 1>could be in some of that back to Earth too,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can only be a tiny bit of it

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<v Speaker 1>back or you'd melt Earth.

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<v Speaker 17>And this will be our last question.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do okay, we'll do a few more we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a few more. Sorry, I'm sorry, all right, Elan. Look

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<v Speaker 2>around you.

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<v Speaker 18>This is a very small sample of Tesla soldiers. Maybe

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<v Speaker 18>actually I should say, elin Musk soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your sport. So thank you everyone. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to say thank you from the bottom of my

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<v Speaker 1>heart for your support.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and thank you every one out there.

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<v Speaker 18>So I know for sure a lot of them sold

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<v Speaker 18>the farm to buy Tesla, and they stuck with Tesla

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<v Speaker 18>through thick and thin, good days and bad days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So my.

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<v Speaker 18>Question to you is, how do you feel about the thing,

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<v Speaker 18>the success, but in a safer way where you get

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<v Speaker 18>qualified Tesla retail investor only to invest in SpaceX, avoiding

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<v Speaker 18>all these market manipulators, those crooks, and these short sellers.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a tough problem that you highlight the basically

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<v Speaker 1>the unfortunately, over time, the parasitic load of being a

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<v Speaker 1>public company has just grown over time, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>get all these spurious lawsuits, obviously, and they just make

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<v Speaker 1>it very difficult to operate effectively as a public company.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to try to figure out some

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<v Speaker 1>way for Tesla shareholders to participate in SpaceX.

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<v Speaker 19>That would be very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been giving a lot of thought to how to

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<v Speaker 1>give people access to SpaceX stock, because I do want

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<v Speaker 1>supporters to have SpaceX stock. But there's a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred shareholder threshold for before you become impacted.

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<v Speaker 2>A public company.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, maybe at some point tells it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe made some point SpaceX should become a public company

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<v Speaker 1>despite all the downsides of being public.

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<v Speaker 20>All right, Okay, first of all, thank you very much, Elon.

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<v Speaker 20>Just an amazing job you're doing, not only for Tesla

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<v Speaker 20>shareholders but humanity in general. So we got a couple

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<v Speaker 20>of questions. Many of us are asking, like, we want

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<v Speaker 20>to know. Many of us think you are one of

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<v Speaker 20>the most consequential business people honor of ever and we

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<v Speaker 20>want to understand how do you think, For example, like

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<v Speaker 20>a couple of one, how did you know in the

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<v Speaker 20>master plant part two, this is like twenty eighteen or

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<v Speaker 20>something like that, you calculated that point it takes six

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<v Speaker 20>billion miles of FSD miles driven before maybe the world

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<v Speaker 20>the regatory would prove it. And then the second is

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<v Speaker 20>like when you were deciding if Tessa's going to have

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<v Speaker 20>the hardware chips AI chips, did you know at that

742
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<v Speaker 20>time that at some point when you get to AA five,

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<v Speaker 20>it's going to be used not only for cars but

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<v Speaker 20>for bots and for AI data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that luck a little bit or was it.

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<v Speaker 21>Like you that was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I generally, I mean in terms of the estimates, like

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<v Speaker 1>the for the self driving stuff, I generally try to

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<v Speaker 1>get things to within an order of magnitude. So if so,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me like probably and this was technically

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<v Speaker 1>in kilometers, but would be more closer to ten billion kilometers,

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<v Speaker 1>which is roughly six billion miles. Then it would be

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<v Speaker 1>to one billion, but I think I thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>not take one hundred billion kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really just.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to when you're trying to guess something where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of uncertainty, just try to get it get

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<v Speaker 1>the estimate to the nearest order mangitude closest factor of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I said probably around ten billion kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>or six billion miles. And then yeah, the chip the

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<v Speaker 1>reason Tesla created a chip team, And it's important though,

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<v Speaker 1>like the vast majority of Tesla is like a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>startups in one and the only we've only really done

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<v Speaker 1>one major acquisition, which is solar City and then had

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<v Speaker 1>some very small ones. So all of us is almost

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is organic. I built the CHIP team

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<v Speaker 1>from scratch and the AI team from scratch. The it

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<v Speaker 1>was just because it became a limiting factor. Hardware too,

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<v Speaker 1>we used in video, but in video was at that

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<v Speaker 1>time focused on making really AI server hardware, which obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was a smart bet. Though the most val currently the

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<v Speaker 1>most valuable company in the world, and Jensen Long his

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<v Speaker 1>team have done an incredible job at in video.

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<v Speaker 2>My headsaft to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge admirer of Jensen and in video done

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<v Speaker 1>amazing work, but they were they didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>a cut a low cost, power efficient car computer at

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<v Speaker 1>the time AI car computer. So it's like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we need to start a chip team to solve that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then that's when I hired Jim Keller and we

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<v Speaker 1>built the chip team and did AI three, then AI four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we to be honest, we made a few

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<v Speaker 1>we made some mistakes there with AI five, but now

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<v Speaker 1>AI five is back on track and we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>very rapid cadence to AI six and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 1>this will really this is really necessary for for the

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<v Speaker 1>car to like like With AI four, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can get to two or three hundred percent better than

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<v Speaker 1>human safety, maybe four hundred percent better. But with AI five,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can do one thousand percent better or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even better than that, and then human safety at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point. Actually, it might be too much intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>for a car because like I was thinking, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you get stuck in a car and you have

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<v Speaker 1>too much intelligence? But then one of the things we

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<v Speaker 1>could do is when the car is idle, is use

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<v Speaker 1>the car as a massive distributed AI infrince fleet with

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<v Speaker 1>the content of customers. We're like, do you want your

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<v Speaker 1>car to earn money for you while it's sitting in your.

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<v Speaker 2>Garage of night. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pay one hundred dollars a month or two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month or whatever the right number is if

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<v Speaker 1>you allow Tesla to do AI inference workloads when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not using your car. So that will also helped the

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<v Speaker 1>AI in the car not get bored, because I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what if I got stuck in a car and then well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the highlight of your day was driving. But they

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<v Speaker 1>don't always want to drive, so then what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do with the rest of the time. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla could actually end up having the largest might end

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<v Speaker 1>up having the most amount of AI inference compute.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world. Like I think, like maybe if we.

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<v Speaker 1>Had one hundred million car fleet, and at some point

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<v Speaker 1>we may have more than a hundred million call fleet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll have AI six AI seven, And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to run a kilowatt of inference on one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million car fleet, now you've got a one hundred gigawatts

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<v Speaker 1>of distributed inference with built in cooling and power electronics

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<v Speaker 1>and distributed power. Probably the market's valuing that at zero

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<v Speaker 1>point zero right now, so I guess, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an obvious thing to do if you've got distributed

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<v Speaker 1>inference AI and you've got the power and the cooling,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very difficult to do the power in the cooling,

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred gigawatts is a lot the average I said.

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<v Speaker 1>The average power consumption in the US I think is

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<v Speaker 1>around four hundred and sixty gigawats within that's the entire

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<v Speaker 1>electric consumption of the US. So the if you do

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<v Speaker 1>it one hundred gigawatts, that'd be a pretty big number.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's basically something as a limiting factor and

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<v Speaker 1>then we take actions to address the limiting factor.

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<v Speaker 20>A quick follow up, Thank you for that very much.

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<v Speaker 20>A request for you. So you guys just unveiled the

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<v Speaker 20>cyber bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we'd like to. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 20>We'd want you, guys or maybe do a cyber bull

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<v Speaker 20>here in Giga Texas. My name is Herbert. I've got

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<v Speaker 20>a brighter with Herbert channel on YouTube. And this is

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<v Speaker 20>the Cyber Bulls. We are representing the Tesla Bulls and

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<v Speaker 20>we stand with you, elon, but would it be cool

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<v Speaker 20>to have a cyber bull right here in Texas?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a cyber longhorn.

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<v Speaker 20>Cyber longhorn.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll do a cyber longhorn for the factory.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 22>I'm I'm very excited to ask this question. I've dreamed

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<v Speaker 22>of giving away a Tesla for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 22>and I finally wore Evy Jack down enough that they're

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<v Speaker 22>willing to flip the bill for it. But it turns

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<v Speaker 22>out to give away a Tesla, I have to have

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<v Speaker 22>your permission to say we're giving way a Tesla, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get away.

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<v Speaker 22>You don't have to do anything Tesla does that. We're

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<v Speaker 22>going to go through the normal channels. We'll buy it

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<v Speaker 22>from a store that stuff if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can get totally cool. Yeah, yeah, that's certainly. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>need my mission to give away a car.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take like maybe a couple more questions and call

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<v Speaker 1>it a night.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Hilana, my name is Jonathan. You mentioned that

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<v Speaker 5>the Roadster will have more tech than all the James

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<v Speaker 5>Bond vehicles combined. Do you think this possible will be

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<v Speaker 5>that any of that tech will make it into the

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<v Speaker 5>current vehicle lineup? No, And to follow up on that,

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<v Speaker 5>do you have any estimate of production or delivery timelines

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<v Speaker 5>for the Roadster.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're aiming for the product unveiled and will be

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<v Speaker 1>of the Roster to which will be very different from

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<v Speaker 1>what we're shown previously. That demo event will be April

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<v Speaker 1>first of next year. I have some deniably because like

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<v Speaker 1>I could say, I was just kidding, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>actually tentatively aiming for April first for what I think

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<v Speaker 1>will be the most exciting whether it works or not,

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<v Speaker 1>demo ever of any product. And then I guess production

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<v Speaker 1>is probably about twelve to eighteen months after that, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think production is probably a year or so after that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't give away the secrets, but you won't be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take one last question? Hey, all right, three

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<v Speaker 1>last questions?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hi Elan.

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<v Speaker 23>I'm really excited about this a future of sustainable abundance

881
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 23>that we're talking about. You're going to be saving a

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<v Speaker 23>lot of lives with FSD, but the number of lives

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<v Speaker 23>that would be saved and improved with this future vision

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<v Speaker 23>you have is really inspiring and very exciting. So even today,

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<v Speaker 23>you've mentioned though that in a post scarcity world, the

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<v Speaker 23>role of money could diminish or become obsolete, given that

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<v Speaker 23>much of today's power, including yours, is tied to wealth.

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<v Speaker 23>Do you think achieving this abundance would require powerful people

889
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<v Speaker 23>to relinquish their power? And how might we address resistance

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<v Speaker 23>from those who hold power to make this vision a reality?

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<v Speaker 1>I think actually, long term, the AI is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans. If

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<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence vastly exceeds the summer human intelligence, it is

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to mentionine that any humans will actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in charge. So we just need to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that as friendly. Yep, thank you? Is that the question

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead? Sure? Yes?

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<v Speaker 18>Okay?

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<v Speaker 24>Sorry, el okay, okay, yeah, I'm cybercat on X and

900
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<v Speaker 24>I'm doing YouTube and the content creator. There's one thing

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<v Speaker 24>I always heard about Tesla owners or people who want

902
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 24>to buy Tesla complain about that is about super expensive insurance,

903
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<v Speaker 24>right and the thing is Tesla I know Tesla also

904
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<v Speaker 24>do insurance. However, it's not a cover every place. Based

905
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 24>on Boston, I don't have too much options. It's super expensive.

906
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<v Speaker 24>And the other point is the FSD is very safe

907
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<v Speaker 24>right now. I've been using FSD for about four years.

908
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<v Speaker 24>Right it's getting to a point it's like almost unsupervised. However,

909
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<v Speaker 24>the insurance still does not take this into consideration. They

910
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<v Speaker 24>don't ask you whether you have FFD or not, and

911
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<v Speaker 24>they don't know how much you travel with FSD, and

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<v Speaker 24>that is not a part of the risk prediction kind

913
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<v Speaker 24>of thing. So I feel like, what's your thought about

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<v Speaker 24>the insurance going forward, especially when we're getting close to

915
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<v Speaker 24>the autonomy. What is PAS like either using your own

916
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<v Speaker 24>with the external partnership, for example, there's a company called Lemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to not have the questions be super long.

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<v Speaker 1>The Teslin insurance is trying to expand as as quickly

919
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<v Speaker 1>as possible, but the regulatory structure for insurance is extremely

920
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<v Speaker 1>complex and works on a state by state basis, so

921
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<v Speaker 1>it's really somewhat of a racket, and the rules for

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<v Speaker 1>insurance are different with every state.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very complicated thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there's but I'm aware that insurance often is

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<v Speaker 1>too expensive and doesn't take the right things into account.

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<v Speaker 1>But so all I can say to that is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll keep expanding teslent insurance. When the car is operating

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<v Speaker 1>as a cybercap Tesla will simply self insure, so that

929
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<v Speaker 1>kind of solves that. But insurance is a yeah, a real.

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<v Speaker 2>Pain in the neck for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But Okay, I do need to end this at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Yeah, one question, one question there.

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<v Speaker 21>All right, thanks thelan for taking my question.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 21>My question has to do with compute and what the

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<v Speaker 21>build out or how much is necessary to train optimists

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<v Speaker 21>and actually get them to a very household meaningful robot

938
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<v Speaker 21>that can do things, and if the partnership with x

939
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<v Speaker 21>A with XAI would help accelerate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's there's a lot of training compute needed for Optimus,

941
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<v Speaker 1>and because the AI tip in the robot is relatively weak,

942
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<v Speaker 1>because it's really living in our power.

943
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<v Speaker 2>You can make up with that with a lot.

944
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<v Speaker 1>Of training to have a lot of training result in

945
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<v Speaker 1>a very efficient AI that can run on a low

946
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<v Speaker 1>power chip in the robot. So it is we will

947
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<v Speaker 1>actually have to spend a lot of money on training.

948
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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately it'll be like tens of billions of dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>training compute, so it's a big number.

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<v Speaker 21>What a partnership with Xai help accelerate that?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think potentially, Yeah, I think that that could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's potential for accelerating that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Did the Xai investment think get approved?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, okay, okay, okay, whatever. What it like?

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<v Speaker 1>It's Teesla and some other company that I have been

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<v Speaker 1>interested in, and it's like always quite complicated to do

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00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 1>things has to go through a lot of hoops to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think there's a lot of potential collaboration

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<v Speaker 1>with Xai in the future and with space x A.

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<v Speaker 20>Right, okay, this is the last one.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, sorry, Thank you so much, Captain elion x. I

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<v Speaker 17>support you. Thanks so much for everything you do. Very

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<v Speaker 17>simple question. I'm from Israel. I don't represent a lot

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<v Speaker 17>of people, but people do ask me and I'm going

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<v Speaker 17>to ask you, I need a chance to have the

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<v Speaker 17>app in other languages, like Hebrew for example. Some people

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<v Speaker 17>struggle with me. I mean even the app is the

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<v Speaker 17>app itself, Yeah, just the app.

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<v Speaker 1>The app is not a Hebrew Oh and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't speak English. Oh okay, shoot, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>we had it in all languages. Okay, definitely the app

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be in all languages, all right, all right,
