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Speaker 2: Lots of great music to start out today's show, and
of course we have a very busy show for you.
And right now we're going to introduce him without further
ADO photographer Andrew Voorhies this year. Hello Andrew, Hello, good
morning everybody, Good morning, welcome to the program.
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: And so you are a what would be the proper
term photo journalist?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 2: What should we how should we refer to your profession?
Speaker 12: I would say so, I mean I'm a photographer really
generally all around. I mainly do do a lot of
political stuff and journalism, but I also do a lot
of non photojournalism and non political stuff as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are very.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 2: How when did you because you're a young man, when
did you start? When did you start doing this professionally?
Speaker 12: Actually, so about a year ago is when I got
my first actual camera, which is the camera that I
still have today. I first started out going around to
like local events, and I actually went down to Boston
a lot, because, I mean, being honest, around conquered. There's
not really a lot of stuff to photograph over there.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, well once in a while, they're sure is
but we'll get Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah.
Speaker 12: No, So I I first started out, you know, just
going to events and just you know, going around Boston
just kind of photographing the city. I started out doing
some wildlife stuff, and then I also did some motorsports
as well, a lot of stuff with I've done a
few things with MX, NHM up an epping and NHMX
one on one which is like the dirt bikes and
the quad cross and stuff like that. So that was
super fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. What made you want to get
into photography.
Speaker 12: I was first inspired by photography when I was in
eighth grade. I've always been a really big fan of history. Yeah,
and you know, in school, our teacher at the time,
mister Brown, he would show us a lot of photos
of the civil rights movement in World War Two. I
was very inspired by those photos because you know, when
you take a photo, that's not all you're doing. You're
really freezing a moment in time, right, And that's what
first interested me in That is not only just the
aspect of you know, being outside and you know with
a camera, it's also you're you're documenting things. Even if
it's something might seem mundane. Sure, you're still freezing that
moment in time, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 12: Remember seeing these photos and being that's what I want
to do. I want to get out there, I want
to document I mean, because it's important. You know, people
need to know what's going on in their communities, and
people have a right to know what's going on right right,
And it's one thing to hear about an event, but
when you see it visually, even through a photo, you
get that deeper level of understanding of, oh, this is
what happened.
Speaker 2: Are you? Something that comes up on the show a lot,
and we we haven't really talked about it when it
comes to photography. We talk about it a lot when
it comes to music, but AI and the encroachment of
AI for a lot of a better way of putting
it into our creative endeavors. And are you I'm curious
to get your thoughts on that because now and this
is something we'll probably get into a little bit more
later too, but now there's it's easier than ever, of course,
to create a photo or a video or anything you know,
that is AI generated. And it's also but not only
does it make it easy to fake things, or easier
to fake things than it used, but also it makes
it easier for people to say, oh, I don't believe
this is real when they see it. And obviously that
directly affects what you're doing, because, like you said, when
you take a photo of something, you're documenting it. You're
creating evidence that this happened, this is an event, this
is something that is real. But I mean, how do
you feel about how do you feel about AI? And
do you feel do you feel threatened by it? Are
you concerned about it? Or you're not worried about it?
Speaker 12: So there is definitely a level of concern when it
comes to AI, because I mean AI is supposed to
you know, help us, not replace us, right, that is
what the intention of AI should be. But we are
definitely seeing a lot more now that AI is encroaching
on that line of you know, because again, like you
just said, there are a lot of people who will
now be like, oh, that's fake right now, And it
is definitely very damaging when you know, people do that
because of tools like that. I think it definitely is
something that needs to be regulated because then things will
start to, you know, go out of control. Because again,
like as as a photographer, I have had people fully
on tell me that my photos are fake. Oh yeah,
and they are. People are a lot more emboldened to
say that because of tools like AI. Right, Like, because
you know before like I always say this a lot
is you know, the undeniable proof of photographic evidence is
one of the most important things that we have. But
now we're living in a day and age where that
kind of means, hey, I can just type this thing
in a chat GPT and generate it right there, So
why can't you do the same thing?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 12: And it's like, well, I'm not right right, but it
definitely is starting to concern me a bit, especially with
you know, what just happened, because you do have a
lot of people going out there and be like, oh,
that's fake, but it's not, sir right right, yeah, so
oh yeah, it is definitely a concern for me.
Speaker 2: Well we should talk because this this is an instance
where I assume you didn't expect going into the event
where you took photographs that were about to talk about.
I assume you didn't expect to go in there and
get necessarily the kinds of photos that came out of. Yeah.
Speaker 12: No, absolutely not. Yes. So, for those who don't know,
I covered the neo Nazi demonstration that happened in Conquered
at the Capitol Building. There was a fifty to fifty
one protest that was being held, but it was kind
of the they did try to take it over, but
they eventually failed and left. Yeah, but it Yeah, I
did not expect to turn on to the road of
you know, my capitol building and see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And I once I saw that, I realized people are
probably gonna think the same thing, like, oh, there's no
way right that. You know, they were here and conquered
New Hampshire. So that's why the first thing that I did,
I threw my bag in the grond, ripped my camera
out and started photographing. You know, because, like I said earlier,
photographic evidence is very important because you know, people might
not know that it happened, or you know, like we
said earlier, people might be like, oh, that didn't happen,
this is fake. But then when I show you a
photo of it, then you can't really sit there and
say it is very important because people need to know
and people have a right to know what's going on
in their community.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so in that moment, I mean, have you
had Have you had any other moments that even approached
that in terms of oh my god, I've gotta I
gotta hurry up and grab grab my camera and get
out there. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Absolutely so, my friend He's so, I live right on
Manchester Street and Conquered, like right next to where all
the car dealerships are, you know, Brookside and all of that.
Speaker 2: I know, I grew up in Conquered. Yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 12: My friend Jaden, he actually works at Brookside and one
day he sent a video of the apartment building. So
this actually happened last month. The apartment building next to
brooks Side was on fire.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 12: And he was like, you know, he sent that to
me and I was like, dude, I got to get
over there. So I grabbed my bag, I sped over there.
I was like two minutes away. By the time I
got there, the fire department like already had the flames
you know, dim and down. So, you know, thank you
to Conquer Fire Department, all the other fire departments that
were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 12: That was one of the That was probably the first
moment where I was like, oh, I need to grab
my camera and go and you know, go to this
without you know, warning or anything like that. It's a
as a photographer, it's definitely another level of adrenaline when
it's not a planned thing, right, I imagine, especially something
like a fire h so I got there. I photographed
the fire department at work and stuff like that, because
that's another thing that people need to know about, is
events like that and stuff because that also affects a
lot of people because you know, after that event, there
was a lot of people without homes. Again, it's also
very scary thing because you know that that can happen
really at any time, right, And it's also good to
get those photos for the fire department, you know, so
they have those. And yeah, it was very it wasn't
necessarily what happened at the Capitol Building type of experience,
but it was definitely still a very you know, crazy
situation to walk up to and see what was going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Do you ever have anything happened
where you you you go to photograph something and it
winds up? I mean, are you ever disappointed? Like, like,
do you ever find something isn't as interesting a photograph
as you expected? Or has that ever happened?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 12: Yeah, There's definitely been those times, you know. But I
feel like as a photographer, especially like as I gain
more experience, you realize how to photograph things like that
that might seem mundane or boring and stuff like that.
You you really learn and you get that eye of
like what I should actually capture instead of just being like, ah,
well you know this, this isn't going well. You know,
there's definitely that that thing. I try to keep it
in the back of my head of you know, let's
it's fine to something because there's there's always a story
or there's always something to show people out there, you know,
as I I kind of mentioned earlier that you know,
even though Cockord is kind of a boring place to photograph,
as long as you look, there's always something out there.
Speaker 2: Right right, no doubt. How I want to circle back
to AI for a moment, because how do how can
you tell like, like, do you have any advice for
people who and and whatever we say about it today
might not even matter, you know, a year from now,
a month from now, who knows, because the technology moves
so fast. But like if somebody says to you, for example, well,
how do I know this photograph that you took is real?
How do I know this is an AI?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: What can you tell other than while I was there?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean, what what can you tell them or can't
or is there anything you can you can say, really.
Speaker 12: Well, I have an SD card with raw files. Yeah. Yeah,
but obviously I'm not going to show it to someone's
house with my SD card and be like, well here
you go.
Speaker 7: Yeah. There.
Speaker 12: There are definitely ways to tell if an image is AI.
There's a lot of things that can factor into it.
Is the equality of the image, because like, if if
I have an actual camera, obviously it's not gonna look
like it was taken off of a potato.
Speaker 2: Right right. Yeah.
Speaker 12: The other thing you look for is really just like
human anatomy is like is there few extra fingers or
are people's faces smudge together and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, has a problem with fingers, Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 12: They have a very big problem with you know, getting
those features down. So that's important to look for, you know,
certain colors. There's things that just wouldn't make sense, you know,
like a group of people merging together in like a blob,
stuff like that. But it is getting harder and harder
to tell. Like I don't know if you've seen the
uh I believe it's called the Google VO three.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 8: I believe I know of it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like people are able to create these like
very realistic looking videos, and you got to look at
the progression of AI, like I believe in like twenty
twenty three is when it first really started to kind
of emerge. If oh, you can create these AI videos
of you know, like Will Smith eating spaghetti or something,
and now it's merged into and you could clearly tell
back then, oh this is AI, like his fingers are
like disappearing into his face and stuff like that. But
now it's kind of getting the point where it takes
longer and longer to kind of look at it and realize, Okay,
this is AI. And again, if that's the kind of
progression it's had since twenty twenty three, I mean, could
you imagine what it's gonna be like two years from now.
And it is a very very scary thought because I mean,
not only does that come into play when it comes
to my job, of people saying this is fake, you
got to think what that would do the world, especially
when it comes to deep fakes. You know, people can
make deep fakes a political leaders, celebrities or even of you,
you know what I mean. It's a very real concern.
And this is why I say, like it really is
something that needs to be regulated because if it's not,
it's gonna spiral out of control. And a lot of
people think that way, So I don't really know why
it's not really happening.
Speaker 2: I keep seeing these videos that show up in my
feet on uh, like on on Facebook, I'll see these
shorts of videos of like floods and and and like
tsunamis and things. And one of the one of the
ways I can always tell. I mean, I'm sure there's
some of them that look so real that I can't
tell they're fake. But but there is one tell and
a lot of these is how the people in the
videos react. Like you'll see this huge wave coming and
people aren't.
Speaker 12: Running away, they just standing of some of them.
Speaker 2: Some of them are running awave, but some of them
are just standing there like it's no, like they're not
afraid of you know, It's like, okay, that's not how
people would react in that situation. Everybody would run.
Speaker 12: It's like you can tell by their movements too, is
like you know what I mean, Like their arm will
spin all the way around or something like that. But again,
especially when it comes to a lot of you know,
older people, uh to say, they they are more attuned
to believe things like that, you know, obviously, but and
that also poses the other danger of you know, scammers
have also been using stuff like that to lure people
into just draining their accounts. And it is a very
horrible situation and I hope that something is done about
it rather sooner than later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what can be done though, not
to Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 12: So that's the thing is we need to actually have
conversations about this and you know, figure something out because
it does need to be addressed. And that's where it starts,
just having simple conversations with each other and be like,
all right, what are we gonna do about this? You know,
your stay in local legislators and just bringing it all
the way up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you put this genie back
in the bottle. I really don't. I mean, I honestly,
I really don't. But but yeah, there are concerns. I mean,
obviously a I can do can do some great things too.
You know, we we've our first experience with AI actually
live on the radio. We there's a couple of Pudo
and Udio seem to be the two biggest ones where
you can make music using AI yep, and we we
did all an experiment on the show. I said, we
had something where we had I guess who had canceled
or something, but we always find ways to fill the time.
So I said, let's, uh, this was something I'd kind
of had in the back of my mind. Let's use
the Tsuno app because I'd created an account and their
free account is actually pretty generous, and let's just create
a song live on the air. We'll we'll put in
a prompt and we'll create and and oh my god,
like they're so good, like they're legitimately good. Like it's
not it's not like, oh, this is obviously aiah. You
listen to it, you know what I mean. It's it's
pretty incredible what what it can do. And you know,
and I have mixed feelings about that because on one hand,
because of where I come from in my background and
what I do, you know, I will always always advocate
for artists, for musicians and protecting them and everything. On
the other hand, when you type in an idea and
it creates this great song for you, it's like, this
is pretty cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it's like, what do you do that
plays into it? Is, you know, people's jobs security and
it just comes downstreet to like human creativity. No matter
what AI can do, at the end of the day,
humans created AI, and humans have done those things on
their own without AI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true, Yeah, it's uh. You know you mentioned
too deep fake videos. And part of the part of
the problem too is people will tend to just broadly speaking,
even if you take AI out of the equation, people
are easily fooled when they're being told something or shown
something that they want to believe. Yeah. You know, we
all carry, some people more than others, and we won't
get into that, but you know what I'm talking about,
but we all carry It's it's part of human nature,
some degree of confirmation bias in our brains, and and
so we're always all of us are more apt to
believe certain things more easily, and so you know, if
they comport with what we already think and believe or
like to think and believe it. Therefore it's very very
because that's the thing too. Even if there are tells,
this is part of the problem. Even if there are
certain ways that you can tell that something is AI,
if you want to be fooled by it, you will be,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you want to be. I mean, even before AI,
people were saying things were fake and they didn't believe
them and stuff. That's why I truly feel like what
I do to this day is still very very important,
still relevant, you know, because there are a lot of
people out there who might just be like, oh, you're
just taking photos. I mean yeah, I mean, if you
really want to simple it down like that. But at
the same time, especially with AI and all this other stuff,
it is very important for you know, people like me
to get out there and document things and document things accurately.
That's why I get photos of everything. I'm not just
taking photos of one side or I'm not just taking
photos of a select group of people. I get everything
because at the end of the day, no matter what
your beliefs are, the truth.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely oh well said, perfectly said. If you're just
joining us, we're talking with photojournalists. Photo journalist tripped on
that word. I should just say photographer, Andrew, No, but
what you do is more than just photography, so it's
important to it's important to get that out. Andrew Vorhees
is here with us, and I also want to talk
to you about you know, we've been talking about AI technology. Also,
phones like your cell phone can take incredible pictures depending
on what I mean. Some of the new phones, it's
amazing what they can do. Is that a threat to
what you do in any way?
Speaker 12: So when it comes to the phones, I don't believe.
So I'm actually very glad that, you know, people who
aren't able to get a super expensive or fancy camera
can use their phone to document things like this, because
there's not always going to be someone with a nice
camera around to document things like that. So I actually
think it's a good thing that other people have the
ability to document events like this, even if it is
just a cell phone. Do I think they're gonna take
my job? Absolutely not. I mean you gotta look at
just the things you can do with cameras. It's just
on a whole other level. Yeah, the iPhones that they
definitely have, the quality on them has gotten insane, But
when we're talking about the level of photos and the
storytelling that you can do with a camera, it's just
on a whole new level. And I might be a
little biased saying this as a photographer, I should. I mean,
even before I was a photographer, it's what truly inspired
me was photos with actual cameras. I feel like you
get you're able to tell more of a story with
a camera, and you're able to get a deeper understanding
of things when it's actually taken by a camera. Sure,
you know, but definitely I am Actually, I do believe
it is a good thing that, you know, everyone can
have the ability to document events because that is also
very important too, absolutely, and you can see all sides
in that way, you know. Yeah, And again, like I
said earlier, the truth is important, you know whether again,
it doesn't matter what your beliefs are as long at
the end of the day, as long as the truth
is what gets out there, that's what's important.
Speaker 2: Can you tell? Can can you tell if a picture
was taken with a camera or a phone?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? Yeah, yep. Interesting, interesting, yeah, yep, yeah, it's it's
I mean, especially as the photographer, it's very easy to tell.
But if if you're not, it's very easy to give
you a simple explanation and be like, oh, here, you
know what I mean. That would actually be a pretty
good test to do, actually, just to you know, test
my eye a little bit, right right, Yeah, mainly because
like the mainly the way you can tell is the
depth of field is like when it comes to cameras crazy,
but also I mean just image quality in general, like
typically even now, like the more you zoom in with
an iPhone, the worst and worse the image gets, you know,
But if you're you know, someone like me who has
like a two hundred millimeters lens, you can really get
in there and it's still crystal clear.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, that makes sense, Yeah, makes sense. So what
you take the picture with is important.
Speaker 12: Raight gear is important, absolutely, because.
Speaker 2: I'm also curious too for anyone who's listening to this
conversation who's interested in doing what you do, you know,
that's that's something you probably want to impress upon people, right,
like what you use you know, Yeah, yeah, it's fine
to take pictures with your phone, but to do what
you do, you know, you really need a professional camera.
Speaker 12: Right, yeah, absolutely, and especially like if you do want
to do photography, you are definitely going to need a camera. Yeah,
it's definitely an important thing. So what I would recommend
doing is at first, like anything you know, even with photographers,
like Okay, this seems like something I'm interested in, But
there are some things where you're like, oh, I'm interested
in this, but then you start doing it and you're like,
I don't really like this, you know. So my recommendation
would be too. Because there's actually a store here in
Manchester called Hunts. It's a photos store. They you can
actually rent a camera for like the day or the
week and stuff, so interesting it would be my recommendation
is to rent a camera, you know, for a day
or a week or you know, whatever you think is adequate,
rent out, you know, because you can actually rent lenses
and stuff like that as well, So I would that
would be my recommendation was to start out doing that,
you know, renting and rent different types of cameras, like
rent a Fujifilm or a Nikon or a Cannon or Sony,
just to see what feels comfortable to you and what
you know, aspects of certain brands that you like, right, yeah,
because that is also very important in photography, is you know,
it's not people aren't necessary. I mean people are as
and you know any other community are very brand heavy.
But at the same time it's really you know, just
what are you most comfortable with, what do you like using,
you know, what specs do you like about certain cameras?
So yeah, just renting stuff out and just going out
and just really taking pictures of anything. Yeah, like literally
anything when you're starting out, just to not only be like,
hey do I actually like this what I'm doing right now,
and also learning the mechanics of the camera, learning you know,
all that stuff, and just learning what to photograph, learning
how to photograph it. It was very I mean I'm
still definitely learning. I mean, no matter what you do,
there's always room to learn and grow, and it's very
very interesting. As someone who's very passionate about the work
that I do, it's I'm always down to learn everything
that I can when it comes to photography. So that
that is another thing I would recommend is just learn. Yeah,
you know, I have, like the majority of what I've
learned I've done on my own with you know, YouTube
and talking to those around me.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 12: So that's the other aspect too, is you know, joining clubs,
talking to other photographers, stuff like that can go a
really long way.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people are interested in doing this,
but they but then they become overwhelmed because we kind
of live in a culture where a lot of things well,
now you're you're very young, Jenny and I were Gen X,
so we're like the last generation that actually grew up
pre Internet. And I wonder how many people are are
just kind of just they get discouraged because it all
is more complicated than maybe they expect, because they think
they think it's going to be easy, because so many
things are easy. Yeah, in terms of of just like
you know, again, like taking pictures with your phone. They think, Okay,
well I'm gonna be a photographer. Okay, I better get
a real camera to do this. Oh there's a lot
to learn, like different trying different cameras, like you said,
trying different lenses and so forth. It's not like you
just okay, now I have a real camera. Now I'm
gonna go take some pictures and it's going to be
great and I'm a professional. It's not like that. It's
like any really, it's like anything else. You have to
actually learn and spend the time. Yeah, you know, you've
you've put the time in to learn all this stuff.
But you know a lot of people they get impatient,
they get frustrated, and you know.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and honestly, I've been there. You know, yeah,
you know, it's but really, again, once when you're passionate
about something. You realize, hey, this is what I want
to do. You stick through it, you know, on the
highs and the lows. Yep, it is that, like I said,
I mean happen to me, and it is definitely a
very real thing that can happen where you're like, oh,
this super easy. Because before I got a photography I'm like, oh,
you're just pointing a camera and pressing a button.
Speaker 2: There's definitely more than that.
Speaker 12: But once you you know, sit there and you actually
start learning a lot of it just makes I mean,
for me, it just like that. It was just super
quick and I was like, oh, okay, so that's what
this setting does. That's what this does. Okay, awesome, And
then you just kind of collectively take all the things
that you've learned and just really when it comes to
a camera, when you do one thing, it affects something else,
so you know what I mean, Like when when you
up your ISO, it adds more light into the camera,
but it also makes the image more fuzzy, so stuff
like that. So like almost every setting that you can
mess with, it also messes with something else. And once
you learn that really that those basic things you're not
necessarily set, but you kind of you can from there,
you can just go, you know, and it is definitely
a very very interesting process because you know, as a photographer,
the weather hates us. Oh yeah, so, and it also
goes down to the gear that you have as well.
The more gear you have, the different types of gear
you have, the more you can do. Really, you can
definitely do a lot with you know, I even have
right now, you know, as a twenty year old, it
doesn't have a lot of money. I only have, you know,
one camera body and three lenses. Even with that you
can do a lot, yeah, you know. But the the
more equipment that you have and the type of equipment
that you have, you can do a lot more. You
can shoot indoors, you can shoot at night, you can
shoot when it's cloudy, stuff like that. So really it
might not even come down to you know, what you
know and what you don't know. It just comes down
to what tools do I have available?
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you been in situations you mentioned the weather.
Have you been in situations where you needed to photograph
something in weather that was challenging?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's especially with you know, only one camera
body and three lenses. It happens more more often, especially
in the winter, I bet, especially in the winter. And
I'm like, ah, because again, like lighting, lighting is a
big thing when it comes to me. You know, it's
it can be very especially indoors. You know, it like
like this right now, it's very you know, well lit room.
But if I were to you know, take my camera out,
it's not gonna look so light right, especially with my
my long lens. But you know, with my one point
four you know, fifty lens in here, it would look
pretty good. But again that's that's a very very short lens.
You can't really zoom in and stuff like that. And
that's the other thing. When you zoom in with a camera,
it also gets darker as well. So oh okay, yeah,
so it's very it can be very challenging when you're
in a very big, open room and you're trying to
get those you know, close up shots of you know,
people talking and stuff like that or just you know,
what have you whatever you're photographing. But again, it's just gear.
There's there's so much out there. It's insane. Like I
could literally look online for like hours and hours and
be like, oh I want this, I want that, I want.
So it's also very expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Do you have
a favorite thing to photograph?
Speaker 15: Is there?
Speaker 2: Is there something anything in particular, like political events or
is there anything that Yes?
Speaker 12: So I cover a lot of protest and I would say,
not only is it my favorite thing to photograph, but
it is definitely the thing that I'm best at.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Is just you know, telling people's stories of you know, resistance. Yeah,
and it's I love. That's another thing that got me
really interested in photography was I love talking to people.
I love hearing people's stories, you know, the where did
you come from? Why are you here? You know, just
just learning about people is something that fascinates me.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 12: I just love talking to fellow humans, you know, and
telling their stories. To be able to not only tell
their story, but show people their stories through the visual
aspect of photography is just something I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And again it's also very important to document events like that. Again,
no matter what your belief is, that's still history, you
know what I mean, It's it's still history.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 12: And to be able to be at those events and
meet the people that I meet, Uh, it's it's amazing,
you know. And it again. It's it's like one of
the things that I'm best at.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 12: I mean the quality of images that I've been able
to get through those events is just insane, right you know. Also,
another another thing that I really love the photograph is
the motor the like motorsports.
Speaker 8: Love it.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I love it.
Speaker 12: It's so fun just to watch them jump up on
their dirt bikes and stuff like that. It's great. I mean,
that's awesome, is it?
Speaker 11: Ah?
Speaker 2: I would imagine part of I'm guessing tell me if
I'm right that part of what's exciting about that is
the challenge of getting like a really good sort of
mat Yeah.
Speaker 12: And when you look back and then when I get
home and I look back at my shots, I'm like, oh,
it's so cool. Just there's just mid air. It's it's great.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 12: I do also like, I mean wildlife as well. It's
just it's so cool. I've gone to the Boston Commons
a lot because I mean, the squirrels will just walk
right up to you. Oh really, yeah, it's great. I
mean I literally have a photo of my uh my
friend Bryce with an acorn in his hand, and the
squirrels literally just like up against his hands. Really, yeah,
grab the acorner hit out of his hand. Yeah, it's
just super cool.
Speaker 8: And I mean a lot of.
Speaker 12: Street photography stuff is great as well. I mean, you know,
I've taken photos of people in Boston just playing guitars
on the side of the streets stuff like that. And again,
it's like to other people that might seem like super mundane,
but you're you're capturing a moment there, yeah, you know,
and it's it's just with a camera. It's just it's
so cool. Yeah, that's another aspect of love. And I'm like,
this is so cool, right, right, Like it's great.
Speaker 2: Not only that, but if you take a picture of
somebody with a guitar, you never know exactly right, You
just never know.
Speaker 12: And that's the other cool aspect of it. And again,
it's like when you as a photographer and you take
a photo of someone, that's also a conversation initiated.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 12: As I mentioned before, I love talking to people, and
that's a great way to be like, hey, I got
this super cool photo of you. Same time, some people
might be like, hey, why did you take a photo
of me?
Speaker 2: Which that's something I'm curious about too, so do you
ever have someone who you know you want to take
their picture and they and they say no.
Speaker 12: So I when it comes to me on my own,
you know, when I'm out in public, I definitely do
tend to ask people first. Or if it's for example,
like if someone is you know, playing a guitar or
actually like doing something, you know, I tend to take
the photo first and then show it to them and
then you know, if they want me to delete it,
obviously I'm gonna respect their right to privacy and I'm
gonna get rid of the photo. But I definitely do make,
you know, initiation to actually ask people like, hey, can
I take a photo of you? Because again, like I
I'm very you know, big on privacy because I mean,
I mean everyone should be. It's just respectful and you know,
it's just common sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: But I mean, I know, at the the rallies and
stuff like that, I've had people come up to me
and they like, are you a cop? And I'm like, no, really, no,
I mean it doesn't really. I mean I got the
short hair, I'm a tall yeah, I got my fit
white dude who wears khakis and yeah, polo shirts a lot. Yeah,
I totally get it, uh, And I totally get you know,
people's worry about that stuff. But I'm like, no, I'm
not a police officer. And they're like, oh, do you
work for the press or something like that. I'm like no,
I'm like just a dude, I promise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm with you, you know, yeah, you know.
Speaker 12: But I I kind of like laugh at it now,
you know what I mean, because I'm like, well, I mean,
do you see a bat? Like, no, I'm not a
police officer. And it It actually happened a lot yesterday
at the I was at the Portsmouth Airport photographing the
anti ice protest there, and I did get like around
three people who are like, hey, dude, are you are
you a cop? And I was like, no, no, I'm
not funny, Like I just take pictures like oh that's funny. Yeah,
but you know, just having simple conversations with people and
be like hey, no, you know, I'm just here to
document the event and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Everyone that I've come across so far has been like Okay,
you know, thanks for being here and stuff like that.
And I do understand the worry that that. I mean,
we do live in you know, pretty sketchy times, right,
so I totally understand it.
Speaker 2: By the way, Todd Air of course from the Hanging
Left podcast, and he is in the chat room. He says,
love to go out and have you give me a
refresher on photography, and he says he loves street photography
as well. Very good, and we should mention, of course
Todd from the uh yeah, Hanging Left. I guess you're
coming on board with us officially, right, absolutely, so we'll
have so Andrew and I and Todd. We host the
Hanging Left podcast. You can find that online and it
is on all your favorite podcasting platforms of course. But yeah,
so you must you're with Todd every day, right because
you both work on the campaign. We won't get into
it in depth here, but the campaign. Do you want
to mention the campaign?
Speaker 7: Ye?
Speaker 12: So I am a campaign photographer for Sarah Chidzinsky, she's
running for congress here in New Hampshire. That's another thing
that's that I was like, you know, back to what
inspired me to do photography was not just you know,
political rallies and protests and stuff like that, but also
like my absolute dream is to be a white house photographer. Really, yes,
that is I went to d C for my eighth
grade field trip, and this was sort of where, like,
you know, the first flame began of all. I really
want to be a photographer. I've always been interested in history,
you know, and you can't really be interested in history
without being history and with you know, interested in politics
hand in hand. Yeah, you know, it just doesn't really
make sense for you to like history and then not
like the thing that dictates like all of history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 12: But I remember being there, you know, as like a
twelve year old, thirteen year old kid, and I was
just like, this is this is where I want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Again, I had an iPhone at the time, and I
was just taking pictures of everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I actually I still have a photo of me in
front of the White House and I was like, that's
where I want to be. Oh no, okay, I have
actually have Pete So's's photo book. He was Obama's chief
White House photographer the images. He was actually also Reagan's
photographer as well.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So, I mean it's so interesting. He's an amazing guy,
and the the types of photos and the quality of
photos that that man was able to produce is insane really. Yeah,
he's like, he's like one of those people that I
look up to, you know, because I mean that's that's
what I want to be right there in the Oval
office photographing what's going on. Yeah, you know, it's just, man,
I'm just I can nerd out about it for like
the longest time. But it's great.
Speaker 2: Are there are there any specific photos that come to
mind of of that are sort of iconic in your
mind of of at the White House that that perhaps
at gentleman, would you say his name was Pete?
Speaker 12: So I believe that's how you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2: Like, are there are there any specific photos you can
think of that he's taken that you can describe that
the the.
Speaker 12: One that comes from One of my favorite photos is
the photo of Obama and his staff in the situation
room during the bin Laden raid.
Speaker 2: That was the first one I thought of when you mentioned, yeah,
photos from the White House. Yeah.
Speaker 12: I look at that photo almost every day, and it's
like to capture a photo like that, it's just it's
just insane. Yeah, I mean that, like it just blows
my mind, like not only was he there in that
moment in that room with all the super important people,
he got to document that like that, like that is
forever in history because of him. And that's just the
thought of that's just insane, you know. And you know,
even just like sort of the again what other people
might think is like mundane, but like the photos of
you know, one of Obama's daughters, like sneaking behind the
couch to like surprise him. It's like when you think
of the Oval Office, like in my brain, it's a
super serious place and all this stuff. But I mean again,
at the end of the day, like they're still human,
right exactly, especially you know, you know, as young girls
growing up in the White House, like they're still going
to do all those kid things like you know, scaring
or surprising they're dead. It's just that and again you
it just shows like the humanity aspect and it's just
that is that is one of the things that also
I love about photography is just capturing humanity, Yeah, in
its purest form. Yeah, and it's it's just great. I
love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. So that that's the long term goal.
Speaker 12: That's that's what that would be. To get to d
C and to do that, Yeah, that would be insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Absolutely, Oh yeah, Todd says too. Yeah,
that's an amazing photo. He says, show Matt the protest
photo you took of me after the show.
Speaker 12: I can definitely send that over to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, absolutely absolutely. Oh the time goes
so quick. Yeah, this has been wonderful. Yeah, you know,
and looking forward to talking to you of course on
the next hanging left as well. Absolutely, where should people
go to uh to follow you online? And if they
want to see I assume do you have a website
or something where you put a lot of these photos?
Speaker 3: Are so?
Speaker 12: I So the website is Friday dash Photography dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay I do.
Speaker 12: I also am Friday Photography on uh Facebook as well.
So the way to find that really is so the
logo with the like Jason Voorhees esque hockey mask its.
It's a play on my last name, you know, like Vorhees,
Friday Photography, Friday the thirteenth. You know, yeah, a lot
of people don't really know what that is, but you know, UH,
look it up. Friday the thirteenth. That's a super good
horror film. I believe it came out in the round
the eighties.
Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth. Probably I never got I never got
into those movies but early eighties, the early eighties.
Speaker 12: And you can also just search up my name on
Facebook as well. I post all my stuff on there,
and that's just as an Apple and d R E
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E S. I'm also on Instagram Andrew dot Andrew dot
V hold on, okay, let me right.
Speaker 2: Definitely, we won't make sure people can.
Speaker 12: Uh there you Andrew dot V thirteen on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very good, very good.
Speaker 12: And for those who use blue Sky, oh yes, I
am the camera guy thirteen dot b Sky dot Social.
Speaker 2: I'll have to find you on Blue Sky if I
if I if we're not already connected. I I have
Blue Sky, I I have the app on my phone
and everything, but I forget to use it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie to you like I do the
same thing. I'm like, oh yeah that does exist. And
I know a lot of people have switched from X
to Blue Sky like that. So yeah, I do need
to get on there a lot more.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 2: Every every time I'm reminded of it's like, oh I
got to do that, and then I I'll forget about
it again. Well, very good. Well, Andrew Vorhees, thank you
so much.
Speaker 12: This has been awesome.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm sure we'll do it again in the future.
Speaker 9: Ye.
Speaker 2: Absolute, And I'll see you on the podcast The Well
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