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Speaker 1: You're listening to Matt Connerton Unleashed on wm n H

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Speaker 2: Three and now exclusively on w m n H ninety

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five point three FM. Matt Connorton Unleashed presents the American

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radio premiere of the new track from Rivia. This is

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called Piece of You.

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Speaker 3: You want anything, Dad, I don't want to be like Joe,

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I recognizable, become the person.

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Speaker 4: Send it no better than Bradley count sound, no hill,

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no way, chow.

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Speaker 5: Any long? I ain't long, how blacky under? That ain't long? God?

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Now ain't love cans.

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Speaker 4: I ain't hit the rest, but I don't want to

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start a Chad said ain't no.

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Speaker 5: Place like choke.

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Speaker 4: But it started like you was liked. He wasn't what

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you want? It said you like john S.

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Speaker 5: We can waste some minute. We want to waste some

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minutes jays some man don't wait, Joe, that ain't long, guy,

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I ain't log.

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Speaker 4: My blady ard.

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Speaker 5: That ain't long, guy, Now ain't long.

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Speaker 6: M H.

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Speaker 7: I've got that sick jim feeling, run out of west feeling.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 5: I still love you.

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Speaker 4: I got that sick jet figuring out right out always

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I don't know what sometime so.

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Speaker 5: No way, no log log log log.

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Speaker 8: Sat Jim very.

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Speaker 5: Always so.

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Speaker 4: No so Sellow.

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Speaker 2: Matterson and now exclusively on w m n H ninety

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five point three FM, Matt Connerton Unleashed presents the American

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radio premiere of the new single from the Falls. This

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is called between the lines.

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Speaker 9: You see you know night something don't feel quiet right

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to me. I've been taking some time to reutilize was

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quir right.

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Speaker 10: For me.

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Speaker 8: When I said, people who call people who.

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Speaker 4: Go to why try not skating vote?

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Speaker 5: You never really know.

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Speaker 7: For sure who's gonna speaking around you, change your child.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you wrong or right. You need

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to speak between the lines.

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Speaker 7: You gonna keep concasing, keep concasing because you said you

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change you off.

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Speaker 8: Feels a.

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Speaker 7: Shame of me, but at the end of the days

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for worse.

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Speaker 11: Best to me.

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Speaker 7: Well, I said, people call the people who go.

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Speaker 4: So why try not get in vote? You never read

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you know who sure.

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Speaker 12: Who's gone and sticking around you take your child.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't matter if you wrong all right.

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Speaker 4: You need to speak between the lines.

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Speaker 7: Key broncasing, keep bocasing, take your time.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you wrong all.

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Speaker 7: Right, You need to speak between the lines and Kenny broncasing,

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keep brocassing.

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Speaker 4: Please say your child, it doesn't matter every wrong, go right.

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Speaker 7: Give me toork be between the lies.

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Speaker 4: Keep focusing, keep podcasting. Take your child.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't understand your all.

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Speaker 4: Go right, give me ork be between the lies.

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Speaker 7: Don't keep focusing, keep pocussing.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mattconnorton Unleashed on m n H

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ninety five point three.

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Speaker 2: Another brand new track. This is Skull. The track is

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called the Whites.

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Speaker 4: I guys.

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Speaker 13: Gotta be.

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Speaker 5: Sime is beginning.

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Speaker 11: Somebody to keep my moneas a too. You know it's

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coming the lights out been, it's time ago, why nights

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keep my brillion seven baion, y'all.

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Speaker 4: I as a man ways been, Yeah, I know you

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come in.

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Speaker 8: Time.

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Speaker 5: You got up through the water.

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Speaker 11: Y'all know we'll come and geez, I'm starting some days,

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but de win nothing.

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Speaker 7: I'm by time.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna win.

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Speaker 11: You're not touch your grumba bass f days a mansday feelings,

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Stop contemplaint sea dealers, no waste to get.

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Speaker 4: Y'all be a flipped yeah, oh your car man, they

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got stop this serving.

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Speaker 5: Guys got a big water.

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Speaker 4: Y'all got all this all.

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Speaker 5: Y'all mon.

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Speaker 4: Seybody that comes out of right guy's hot out this

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batty y'all brain.

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Speaker 5: I'm chilling up there.

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Speaker 8: I don't see if they.

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Speaker 4: YadA ya.

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Speaker 5: Stay by day.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, you are listening to w UM and H

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World premiere.

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Speaker 2: Sepsis uncross my heart.

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Speaker 10: After rider was enough to be with you in I

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be right now if you on the.

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Speaker 2: Fishing side, you.

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Speaker 10: It's time we will waste the un bos spending all

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on me. Crazy when yours are holding lines.

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Speaker 14: In my.

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Speaker 5: Well, used to have be.

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Speaker 4: The way we always were. Now main the same for you.

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Speaker 10: My love was holding out to traumas. I cannot wave anesty.

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My loyalty isn'ten nothing, A really mad respond I am

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the stranger, the dungeon I scrolled in, the thirst inside.

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You'revn so shyly, the mulley and the danger, the malisia

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in the chamber.

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Speaker 11: Surrender to me.

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Speaker 10: It's crazy, man, yours are holding lines.

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Speaker 5: In my It's like a will.

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Speaker 4: Used to be there the way we always were, and how.

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Speaker 5: Man the same for you.

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Speaker 10: Mother was holding out of traumas meet.

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Speaker 4: I cannot for you see the loyalties enough.

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Speaker 1: When mattso wakes up in the morning, he gets into

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the shower and to the top of his lungs, he sings.

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Speaker 4: I do what I want to because I cham.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: I'm back to the radio show.

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Speaker 2: Now, all the best and Jammy, thanks, Jerry, Hey, welcome everybody.

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Speaker 8: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: It is that time again, Matt Connorton unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of w m n H

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ninety five point three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Streaming,

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contact and fosho archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday,

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it is August nine, twenty twenty five. And of course

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I am not alone.

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Speaker 12: Jenny, good morning, sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jenny is sorry. Jenny. Of course there, Jenny, you

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were there. I wasn't there for oh yes, yes, Jenny

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is of course here at the news table.

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Speaker 12: I am.

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Speaker 6: I am.

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Speaker 2: Lots of great music to start out today's show, and

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of course we have a very busy show for you.

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And right now we're going to introduce him without further

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ADO photographer Andrew Voorhies this year. Hello Andrew, Hello, good

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morning everybody, Good morning, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: And so you are a what would be the proper

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term photo journalist?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 2: What should we how should we refer to your profession?

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Speaker 12: I would say so, I mean I'm a photographer really

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generally all around. I mainly do do a lot of

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political stuff and journalism, but I also do a lot

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of non photojournalism and non political stuff as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are very.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 2: How when did you because you're a young man, when

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did you start? When did you start doing this professionally?

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Speaker 12: Actually, so about a year ago is when I got

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my first actual camera, which is the camera that I

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still have today. I first started out going around to

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like local events, and I actually went down to Boston

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a lot, because, I mean, being honest, around conquered. There's

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not really a lot of stuff to photograph over there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, well once in a while, they're sure is

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but we'll get Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: No, So I I first started out, you know, just

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going to events and just you know, going around Boston

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just kind of photographing the city. I started out doing

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some wildlife stuff, and then I also did some motorsports

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as well, a lot of stuff with I've done a

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few things with MX, NHM up an epping and NHMX

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one on one which is like the dirt bikes and

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the quad cross and stuff like that. So that was

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super fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. What made you want to get

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Speaker 12: I was first inspired by photography when I was in

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eighth grade. I've always been a really big fan of history. Yeah,

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and you know, in school, our teacher at the time,

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mister Brown, he would show us a lot of photos

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of the civil rights movement in World War Two. I

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was very inspired by those photos because you know, when

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you take a photo, that's not all you're doing. You're

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really freezing a moment in time, right, And that's what

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first interested me in That is not only just the

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aspect of you know, being outside and you know with

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a camera, it's also you're you're documenting things. Even if

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it's something might seem mundane. Sure, you're still freezing that

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moment in time, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.

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Speaker 12: Remember seeing these photos and being that's what I want

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to do. I want to get out there, I want

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to document I mean, because it's important. You know, people

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need to know what's going on in their communities, and

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people have a right to know what's going on right right,

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when you see it visually, even through a photo, you

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get that deeper level of understanding of, oh, this is

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what happened.

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Speaker 2: Are you? Something that comes up on the show a lot,

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and we we haven't really talked about it when it

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comes to photography. We talk about it a lot when

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it comes to music, but AI and the encroachment of

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AI for a lot of a better way of putting

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it into our creative endeavors. And are you I'm curious

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to get your thoughts on that because now and this

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is something we'll probably get into a little bit more

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later too, but now there's it's easier than ever, of course,

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to create a photo or a video or anything you know,

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that is AI generated. And it's also but not only

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does it make it easy to fake things, or easier

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to fake things than it used, but also it makes

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it easier for people to say, oh, I don't believe

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this is real when they see it. And obviously that

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directly affects what you're doing, because, like you said, when

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you take a photo of something, you're documenting it. You're

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creating evidence that this happened, this is an event, this

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is something that is real. But I mean, how do

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you feel about how do you feel about AI? And

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do you feel do you feel threatened by it? Are

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you concerned about it? Or you're not worried about it?

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Speaker 12: So there is definitely a level of concern when it

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comes to AI, because I mean AI is supposed to

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you know, help us, not replace us, right, that is

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what the intention of AI should be. But we are

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definitely seeing a lot more now that AI is encroaching

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on that line of you know, because again, like you

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just said, there are a lot of people who will

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now be like, oh, that's fake right now, And it

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is definitely very damaging when you know, people do that

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because of tools like that. I think it definitely is

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something that needs to be regulated because then things will

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start to, you know, go out of control. Because again,

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like as as a photographer, I have had people fully

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on tell me that my photos are fake. Oh yeah,

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and they are. People are a lot more emboldened to

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say that because of tools like AI. Right, Like, because

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you know before like I always say this a lot

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is you know, the undeniable proof of photographic evidence is

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one of the most important things that we have. But

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now we're living in a day and age where that

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kind of means, hey, I can just type this thing

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in a chat GPT and generate it right there, So

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why can't you do the same thing?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 12: And it's like, well, I'm not right right, but it

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definitely is starting to concern me a bit, especially with

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you know, what just happened, because you do have a

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lot of people going out there and be like, oh,

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that's fake, but it's not, sir right right, yeah, so

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oh yeah, it is definitely a concern for me.

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Speaker 2: Well we should talk because this this is an instance

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where I assume you didn't expect going into the event

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where you took photographs that were about to talk about.

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I assume you didn't expect to go in there and

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get necessarily the kinds of photos that came out of. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: No, absolutely not. Yes. So, for those who don't know,

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I covered the neo Nazi demonstration that happened in Conquered

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at the Capitol Building. There was a fifty to fifty

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one protest that was being held, but it was kind

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of the they did try to take it over, but

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they eventually failed and left. Yeah, but it Yeah, I

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did not expect to turn on to the road of

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you know, my capitol building and see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And I once I saw that, I realized people are

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probably gonna think the same thing, like, oh, there's no

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way right that. You know, they were here and conquered

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New Hampshire. So that's why the first thing that I did,

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I threw my bag in the grond, ripped my camera

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out and started photographing. You know, because, like I said earlier,

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photographic evidence is very important because you know, people might

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not know that it happened, or you know, like we

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said earlier, people might be like, oh, that didn't happen,

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this is fake. But then when I show you a

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photo of it, then you can't really sit there and

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say it is very important because people need to know

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and people have a right to know what's going on

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in their community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so in that moment, I mean, have you

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had Have you had any other moments that even approached

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that in terms of oh my god, I've gotta I

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gotta hurry up and grab grab my camera and get

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out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely so, my friend He's so, I live right on

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Manchester Street and Conquered, like right next to where all

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the car dealerships are, you know, Brookside and all of that.

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Speaker 2: I know, I grew up in Conquered. Yeah, I know exactly.

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Speaker 12: My friend Jaden, he actually works at Brookside and one

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day he sent a video of the apartment building. So

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this actually happened last month. The apartment building next to

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brooks Side was on fire.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 12: And he was like, you know, he sent that to

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me and I was like, dude, I got to get

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over there. So I grabbed my bag, I sped over there.

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I was like two minutes away. By the time I

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got there, the fire department like already had the flames

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you know, dim and down. So, you know, thank you

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to Conquer Fire Department, all the other fire departments that

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were there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it.

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Speaker 12: That was one of the That was probably the first

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moment where I was like, oh, I need to grab

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my camera and go and you know, go to this

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without you know, warning or anything like that. It's a

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as a photographer, it's definitely another level of adrenaline when

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it's not a planned thing, right, I imagine, especially something

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like a fire h so I got there. I photographed

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the fire department at work and stuff like that, because

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that's another thing that people need to know about, is

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events like that and stuff because that also affects a

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lot of people because you know, after that event, there

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was a lot of people without homes. Again, it's also

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very scary thing because you know that that can happen

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really at any time, right, And it's also good to

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get those photos for the fire department, you know, so

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they have those. And yeah, it was very it wasn't

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necessarily what happened at the Capitol Building type of experience,

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but it was definitely still a very you know, crazy

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situation to walk up to and see what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Do you ever have anything happened

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where you you you go to photograph something and it

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winds up? I mean, are you ever disappointed? Like, like,

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do you ever find something isn't as interesting a photograph

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as you expected? Or has that ever happened?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, There's definitely been those times, you know. But I

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feel like as a photographer, especially like as I gain

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more experience, you realize how to photograph things like that

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that might seem mundane or boring and stuff like that.

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You you really learn and you get that eye of

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like what I should actually capture instead of just being like, ah,

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well you know this, this isn't going well. You know,

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there's definitely that that thing. I try to keep it

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in the back of my head of you know, let's

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it's fine to something because there's there's always a story

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or there's always something to show people out there, you know,

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as I I kind of mentioned earlier that you know,

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even though Cockord is kind of a boring place to photograph,

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as long as you look, there's always something out there.

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Speaker 2: Right right, no doubt. How I want to circle back

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to AI for a moment, because how do how can

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you tell like, like, do you have any advice for

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people who and and whatever we say about it today

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might not even matter, you know, a year from now,

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a month from now, who knows, because the technology moves

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so fast. But like if somebody says to you, for example, well,

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how do I know this photograph that you took is real?

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How do I know this is an AI?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: What can you tell other than while I was there?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what what can you tell them or can't

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or is there anything you can you can say, really.

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Speaker 12: Well, I have an SD card with raw files. Yeah. Yeah,

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but obviously I'm not going to show it to someone's

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house with my SD card and be like, well here

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you go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. There.

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Speaker 12: There are definitely ways to tell if an image is AI.

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There's a lot of things that can factor into it.

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Is the equality of the image, because like, if if

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I have an actual camera, obviously it's not gonna look

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like it was taken off of a potato.

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Speaker 2: Right right. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The other thing you look for is really just like

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human anatomy is like is there few extra fingers or

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are people's faces smudge together and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has a problem with fingers, Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 12: They have a very big problem with you know, getting

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those features down. So that's important to look for, you know,

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certain colors. There's things that just wouldn't make sense, you know,

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like a group of people merging together in like a blob,

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stuff like that. But it is getting harder and harder

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to tell. Like I don't know if you've seen the

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uh I believe it's called the Google VO three.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that.

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Speaker 8: I believe I know of it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like people are able to create these like

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very realistic looking videos, and you got to look at

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the progression of AI, like I believe in like twenty

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twenty three is when it first really started to kind

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of emerge. If oh, you can create these AI videos

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of you know, like Will Smith eating spaghetti or something,

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and now it's merged into and you could clearly tell

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back then, oh this is AI, like his fingers are

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like disappearing into his face and stuff like that. But

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now it's kind of getting the point where it takes

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longer and longer to kind of look at it and realize, Okay,

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this is AI. And again, if that's the kind of

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progression it's had since twenty twenty three, I mean, could

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you imagine what it's gonna be like two years from now.

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And it is a very very scary thought because I mean,

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not only does that come into play when it comes

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to my job, of people saying this is fake, you

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got to think what that would do the world, especially

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when it comes to deep fakes. You know, people can

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make deep fakes a political leaders, celebrities or even of you,

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you know what I mean. It's a very real concern.

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And this is why I say, like it really is

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something that needs to be regulated because if it's not,

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it's gonna spiral out of control. And a lot of

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people think that way, So I don't really know why

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it's not really happening.

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Speaker 2: I keep seeing these videos that show up in my

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feet on uh, like on on Facebook, I'll see these

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shorts of videos of like floods and and and like

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tsunamis and things. And one of the one of the

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ways I can always tell. I mean, I'm sure there's

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some of them that look so real that I can't

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tell they're fake. But but there is one tell and

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a lot of these is how the people in the

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videos react. Like you'll see this huge wave coming and

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people aren't.

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Speaker 12: Running away, they just standing of some of them.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are running awave, but some of them

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are just standing there like it's no, like they're not

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afraid of you know, It's like, okay, that's not how

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people would react in that situation. Everybody would run.

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Speaker 12: It's like you can tell by their movements too, is

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like you know what I mean, Like their arm will

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spin all the way around or something like that. But again,

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especially when it comes to a lot of you know,

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older people, uh to say, they they are more attuned

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to believe things like that, you know, obviously, but and

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that also poses the other danger of you know, scammers

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have also been using stuff like that to lure people

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into just draining their accounts. And it is a very

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horrible situation and I hope that something is done about

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it rather sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what can be done though, not

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to Yeah, no, absolutely.

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Speaker 12: So that's the thing is we need to actually have

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conversations about this and you know, figure something out because

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it does need to be addressed. And that's where it starts,

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just having simple conversations with each other and be like,

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all right, what are we gonna do about this? You know,

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your stay in local legislators and just bringing it all

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the way up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you put this genie back

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in the bottle. I really don't. I mean, I honestly,

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I really don't. But but yeah, there are concerns. I mean,

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obviously a I can do can do some great things too.

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You know, we we've our first experience with AI actually

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live on the radio. We there's a couple of Pudo

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and Udio seem to be the two biggest ones where

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you can make music using AI yep, and we we

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did all an experiment on the show. I said, we

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had something where we had I guess who had canceled

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or something, but we always find ways to fill the time.

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So I said, let's, uh, this was something I'd kind

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of had in the back of my mind. Let's use

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the Tsuno app because I'd created an account and their

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free account is actually pretty generous, and let's just create

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a song live on the air. We'll we'll put in

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a prompt and we'll create and and oh my god,

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like they're so good, like they're legitimately good. Like it's

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not it's not like, oh, this is obviously aiah. You

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listen to it, you know what I mean. It's it's

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pretty incredible what what it can do. And you know,

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and I have mixed feelings about that because on one hand,

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because of where I come from in my background and

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what I do, you know, I will always always advocate

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for artists, for musicians and protecting them and everything. On

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the other hand, when you type in an idea and

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it creates this great song for you, it's like, this

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is pretty cool.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it's like, what do you do that

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plays into it? Is, you know, people's jobs security and

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it just comes downstreet to like human creativity. No matter

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what AI can do, at the end of the day,

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humans created AI, and humans have done those things on

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their own without AI.

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00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true, Yeah, it's uh. You know you mentioned

480
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,920
too deep fake videos. And part of the part of

481
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:30,160
the problem too is people will tend to just broadly speaking,

482
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,279
even if you take AI out of the equation, people

483
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,920
are easily fooled when they're being told something or shown

484
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,279
something that they want to believe. Yeah. You know, we

485
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240
all carry, some people more than others, and we won't

486
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,119
get into that, but you know what I'm talking about,

487
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,119
but we all carry It's it's part of human nature,

488
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,799
some degree of confirmation bias in our brains, and and

489
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400
so we're always all of us are more apt to

490
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:58,720
believe certain things more easily, and so you know, if

491
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,240
they comport with what we already think and believe or

492
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,000
like to think and believe it. Therefore it's very very

493
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,720
because that's the thing too. Even if there are tells,

494
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,000
this is part of the problem. Even if there are

495
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,160
certain ways that you can tell that something is AI,

496
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,200
if you want to be fooled by it, you will be,

497
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:19,039
you know what I mean.

498
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you want to be. I mean, even before AI,

499
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160
people were saying things were fake and they didn't believe

500
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,759
them and stuff. That's why I truly feel like what

501
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,319
I do to this day is still very very important,

502
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680
still relevant, you know, because there are a lot of

503
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,240
people out there who might just be like, oh, you're

504
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,039
just taking photos. I mean yeah, I mean, if you

505
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,039
really want to simple it down like that. But at

506
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,440
the same time, especially with AI and all this other stuff,

507
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,440
it is very important for you know, people like me

508
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,440
to get out there and document things and document things accurately.

509
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
That's why I get photos of everything. I'm not just

510
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,839
taking photos of one side or I'm not just taking

511
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,279
photos of a select group of people. I get everything

512
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640
because at the end of the day, no matter what

513
00:31:58,759 --> 00:31:59,880
your beliefs are, the truth.

514
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Is absolutely oh well said, perfectly said. If you're just

515
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:08,759
joining us, we're talking with photojournalists. Photo journalist tripped on

516
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:12,359
that word. I should just say photographer, Andrew, No, but

517
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,839
what you do is more than just photography, so it's

518
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,279
important to it's important to get that out. Andrew Vorhees

519
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,839
is here with us, and I also want to talk

520
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,240
to you about you know, we've been talking about AI technology. Also,

521
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,119
phones like your cell phone can take incredible pictures depending

522
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,359
on what I mean. Some of the new phones, it's

523
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,160
amazing what they can do. Is that a threat to

524
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:34,279
what you do in any way?

525
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,359
Speaker 12: So when it comes to the phones, I don't believe.

526
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,039
So I'm actually very glad that, you know, people who

527
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480
aren't able to get a super expensive or fancy camera

528
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400
can use their phone to document things like this, because

529
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,720
there's not always going to be someone with a nice

530
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,680
camera around to document things like that. So I actually

531
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440
think it's a good thing that other people have the

532
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,519
ability to document events like this, even if it is

533
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,759
just a cell phone. Do I think they're gonna take

534
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,279
my job? Absolutely not. I mean you gotta look at

535
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,079
just the things you can do with cameras. It's just

536
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,200
on a whole other level. Yeah, the iPhones that they

537
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,240
definitely have, the quality on them has gotten insane, But

538
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,599
when we're talking about the level of photos and the

539
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,799
storytelling that you can do with a camera, it's just

540
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,559
on a whole new level. And I might be a

541
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,920
little biased saying this as a photographer, I should. I mean,

542
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,119
even before I was a photographer, it's what truly inspired

543
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720
me was photos with actual cameras. I feel like you

544
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:31,319
get you're able to tell more of a story with

545
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,440
a camera, and you're able to get a deeper understanding

546
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,480
of things when it's actually taken by a camera. Sure,

547
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:42,000
you know, but definitely I am Actually, I do believe

548
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160
it is a good thing that, you know, everyone can

549
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,039
have the ability to document events because that is also

550
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,519
very important too, absolutely, and you can see all sides

551
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,160
in that way, you know. Yeah, And again, like I

552
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,079
said earlier, the truth is important, you know whether again,

553
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,160
it doesn't matter what your beliefs are as long at

554
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,720
the end of the day, as long as the truth

555
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:03,559
is what gets out there, that's what's important.

556
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: Can you tell? Can can you tell if a picture

557
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,039
was taken with a camera or a phone?

558
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:17,559
Speaker 12: Absolutely? Yeah, yep. Interesting, interesting, yeah, yep, yeah, it's it's

559
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,679
I mean, especially as the photographer, it's very easy to tell.

560
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
But if if you're not, it's very easy to give

561
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360
you a simple explanation and be like, oh, here, you

562
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,480
know what I mean. That would actually be a pretty

563
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
good test to do, actually, just to you know, test

564
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,840
my eye a little bit, right right, Yeah, mainly because

565
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,519
like the mainly the way you can tell is the

566
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,679
depth of field is like when it comes to cameras crazy,

567
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,440
but also I mean just image quality in general, like

568
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,760
typically even now, like the more you zoom in with

569
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920
an iPhone, the worst and worse the image gets, you know,

570
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,320
But if you're you know, someone like me who has

571
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,920
like a two hundred millimeters lens, you can really get

572
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,800
in there and it's still crystal clear.

573
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, that makes sense, Yeah, makes sense. So what

574
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,800
you take the picture with is important.

575
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 12: Raight gear is important, absolutely, because.

576
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm also curious too for anyone who's listening to this

577
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,400
conversation who's interested in doing what you do, you know,

578
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,800
that's that's something you probably want to impress upon people, right,

579
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,360
like what you use you know, Yeah, yeah, it's fine

580
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,800
to take pictures with your phone, but to do what

581
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,199
you do, you know, you really need a professional camera.

582
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 12: Right, yeah, absolutely, and especially like if you do want

583
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,599
to do photography, you are definitely going to need a camera. Yeah,

584
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:33,039
it's definitely an important thing. So what I would recommend

585
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,480
doing is at first, like anything you know, even with photographers,

586
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,679
like Okay, this seems like something I'm interested in, But

587
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,559
there are some things where you're like, oh, I'm interested

588
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,039
in this, but then you start doing it and you're like,

589
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,400
I don't really like this, you know. So my recommendation

590
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:49,599
would be too. Because there's actually a store here in

591
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,599
Manchester called Hunts. It's a photos store. They you can

592
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,519
actually rent a camera for like the day or the

593
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,000
week and stuff, so interesting it would be my recommendation

594
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,360
is to rent a camera, you know, for a day

595
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,559
or a week or you know, whatever you think is adequate,

596
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,480
rent out, you know, because you can actually rent lenses

597
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:09,360
and stuff like that as well, So I would that

598
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,920
would be my recommendation was to start out doing that,

599
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,800
you know, renting and rent different types of cameras, like

600
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,199
rent a Fujifilm or a Nikon or a Cannon or Sony,

601
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,199
just to see what feels comfortable to you and what

602
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:26,599
you know, aspects of certain brands that you like, right, yeah,

603
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,599
because that is also very important in photography, is you know,

604
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,960
it's not people aren't necessary. I mean people are as

605
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,559
and you know any other community are very brand heavy.

606
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:37,920
But at the same time it's really you know, just

607
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,159
what are you most comfortable with, what do you like using,

608
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,320
you know, what specs do you like about certain cameras?

609
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,320
So yeah, just renting stuff out and just going out

610
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,639
and just really taking pictures of anything. Yeah, like literally

611
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,679
anything when you're starting out, just to not only be like,

612
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,039
hey do I actually like this what I'm doing right now,

613
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,280
and also learning the mechanics of the camera, learning you know,

614
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,039
all that stuff, and just learning what to photograph, learning

615
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:08,360
how to photograph it. It was very I mean I'm

616
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920
still definitely learning. I mean, no matter what you do,

617
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,360
there's always room to learn and grow, and it's very

618
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,400
very interesting. As someone who's very passionate about the work

619
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,360
that I do, it's I'm always down to learn everything

620
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,280
that I can when it comes to photography. So that

621
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,760
that is another thing I would recommend is just learn. Yeah,

622
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,760
you know, I have, like the majority of what I've

623
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960
learned I've done on my own with you know, YouTube

624
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,280
and talking to those around me.

625
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 7: You know.

626
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 12: So that's the other aspect too, is you know, joining clubs,

627
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:36,039
talking to other photographers, stuff like that can go a

628
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:36,840
really long way.

629
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people are interested in doing this,

630
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,679
but they but then they become overwhelmed because we kind

631
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,039
of live in a culture where a lot of things well,

632
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,920
now you're you're very young, Jenny and I were Gen X,

633
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,079
so we're like the last generation that actually grew up

634
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,519
pre Internet. And I wonder how many people are are

635
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,320
just kind of just they get discouraged because it all

636
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
is more complicated than maybe they expect, because they think

637
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,400
they think it's going to be easy, because so many

638
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,320
things are easy. Yeah, in terms of of just like

639
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360
you know, again, like taking pictures with your phone. They think, Okay,

640
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,760
well I'm gonna be a photographer. Okay, I better get

641
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,840
a real camera to do this. Oh there's a lot

642
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,679
to learn, like different trying different cameras, like you said,

643
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,519
trying different lenses and so forth. It's not like you

644
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
just okay, now I have a real camera. Now I'm

645
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,000
gonna go take some pictures and it's going to be

646
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,039
great and I'm a professional. It's not like that. It's

647
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,039
like any really, it's like anything else. You have to

648
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:35,000
actually learn and spend the time. Yeah, you know, you've

649
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,039
you've put the time in to learn all this stuff.

650
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,320
But you know a lot of people they get impatient,

651
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,280
they get frustrated, and you know.

652
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and honestly, I've been there. You know, yeah,

653
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,679
you know, it's but really, again, once when you're passionate

654
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,519
about something. You realize, hey, this is what I want

655
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,559
to do. You stick through it, you know, on the

656
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:56,599
highs and the lows. Yep, it is that, like I said,

657
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:57,920
I mean happen to me, and it is definitely a

658
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,639
very real thing that can happen where you're like, oh,

659
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,360
this super easy. Because before I got a photography I'm like, oh,

660
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,039
you're just pointing a camera and pressing a button.

661
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: There's definitely more than that.

662
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 12: But once you you know, sit there and you actually

663
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,559
start learning a lot of it just makes I mean,

664
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,360
for me, it just like that. It was just super

665
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,280
quick and I was like, oh, okay, so that's what

666
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960
this setting does. That's what this does. Okay, awesome, And

667
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,159
then you just kind of collectively take all the things

668
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,199
that you've learned and just really when it comes to

669
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,360
a camera, when you do one thing, it affects something else,

670
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,719
so you know what I mean, Like when when you

671
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960
up your ISO, it adds more light into the camera,

672
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,159
but it also makes the image more fuzzy, so stuff

673
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,400
like that. So like almost every setting that you can

674
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,880
mess with, it also messes with something else. And once

675
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,280
you learn that really that those basic things you're not

676
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,960
necessarily set, but you kind of you can from there,

677
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,519
you can just go, you know, and it is definitely

678
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,960
a very very interesting process because you know, as a photographer,

679
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:02,079
the weather hates us. Oh yeah, so, and it also

680
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,679
goes down to the gear that you have as well.

681
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,480
The more gear you have, the different types of gear

682
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,320
you have, the more you can do. Really, you can

683
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000
definitely do a lot with you know, I even have

684
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,639
right now, you know, as a twenty year old, it

685
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,079
doesn't have a lot of money. I only have, you know,

686
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,519
one camera body and three lenses. Even with that you

687
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,960
can do a lot, yeah, you know. But the the

688
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,440
more equipment that you have and the type of equipment

689
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,679
that you have, you can do a lot more. You

690
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,559
can shoot indoors, you can shoot at night, you can

691
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:32,480
shoot when it's cloudy, stuff like that. So really it

692
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,719
might not even come down to you know, what you

693
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,320
know and what you don't know. It just comes down

694
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,840
to what tools do I have available?

695
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you been in situations you mentioned the weather.

696
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,079
Have you been in situations where you needed to photograph

697
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:47,280
something in weather that was challenging?

698
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 11: Oh?

699
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's especially with you know, only one camera

700
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,880
body and three lenses. It happens more more often, especially

701
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,639
in the winter, I bet, especially in the winter. And

702
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:02,079
I'm like, ah, because again, like lighting, lighting is a

703
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:05,000
big thing when it comes to me. You know, it's

704
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,199
it can be very especially indoors. You know, it like

705
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,800
like this right now, it's very you know, well lit room.

706
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,599
But if I were to you know, take my camera out,

707
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,719
it's not gonna look so light right, especially with my

708
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,480
my long lens. But you know, with my one point

709
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,880
four you know, fifty lens in here, it would look

710
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,519
pretty good. But again that's that's a very very short lens.

711
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,679
You can't really zoom in and stuff like that. And

712
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,760
that's the other thing. When you zoom in with a camera,

713
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,079
it also gets darker as well. So oh okay, yeah,

714
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:35,960
so it's very it can be very challenging when you're

715
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,440
in a very big, open room and you're trying to

716
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
get those you know, close up shots of you know,

717
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,199
people talking and stuff like that or just you know,

718
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,280
what have you whatever you're photographing. But again, it's just gear.

719
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:51,199
There's there's so much out there. It's insane. Like I

720
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,079
could literally look online for like hours and hours and

721
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:55,920
be like, oh I want this, I want that, I want.

722
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,760
So it's also very expensive.

723
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:03,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Do you have

724
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:04,639
a favorite thing to photograph?

725
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 15: Is there?

726
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,599
Speaker 2: Is there something anything in particular, like political events or

727
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:09,840
is there anything that Yes?

728
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 12: So I cover a lot of protest and I would say,

729
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,679
not only is it my favorite thing to photograph, but

730
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,800
it is definitely the thing that I'm best at.

731
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

732
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:25,519
Speaker 12: Is just you know, telling people's stories of you know, resistance. Yeah,

733
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:30,000
and it's I love. That's another thing that got me

734
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,039
really interested in photography was I love talking to people.

735
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,519
I love hearing people's stories, you know, the where did

736
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,679
you come from? Why are you here? You know, just

737
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,360
just learning about people is something that fascinates me.

738
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: You know.

739
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:46,039
Speaker 12: I just love talking to fellow humans, you know, and

740
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,079
telling their stories. To be able to not only tell

741
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:53,440
their story, but show people their stories through the visual

742
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,880
aspect of photography is just something I love.

743
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

744
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 12: And again it's also very important to document events like that. Again,

745
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,400
no matter what your belief is, that's still history, you

746
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,960
know what I mean, It's it's still history.

747
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 7: Uh.

748
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:09,679
Speaker 12: And to be able to be at those events and

749
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,920
meet the people that I meet, Uh, it's it's amazing,

750
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:14,800
you know. And it again. It's it's like one of

751
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,880
the things that I'm best at.

752
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 6: Ye.

753
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,199
Speaker 12: I mean the quality of images that I've been able

754
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,000
to get through those events is just insane, right you know. Also,

755
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,159
another another thing that I really love the photograph is

756
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480
the motor the like motorsports.

757
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 8: Love it.

758
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Oh really, I love it.

759
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 12: It's so fun just to watch them jump up on

760
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,199
their dirt bikes and stuff like that. It's great. I mean,

761
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:35,679
that's awesome, is it?

762
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 11: Ah?

763
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: I would imagine part of I'm guessing tell me if

764
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,599
I'm right that part of what's exciting about that is

765
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:43,440
the challenge of getting like a really good sort of

766
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,079
mat Yeah.

767
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 12: And when you look back and then when I get

768
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,960
home and I look back at my shots, I'm like, oh,

769
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,199
it's so cool. Just there's just mid air. It's it's great.

770
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 11: Uh.

771
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 12: I do also like, I mean wildlife as well. It's

772
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,679
just it's so cool. I've gone to the Boston Commons

773
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,599
a lot because I mean, the squirrels will just walk

774
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,880
right up to you. Oh really, yeah, it's great. I

775
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,800
mean I literally have a photo of my uh my

776
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,280
friend Bryce with an acorn in his hand, and the

777
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,599
squirrels literally just like up against his hands. Really, yeah,

778
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,840
grab the acorner hit out of his hand. Yeah, it's

779
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,719
just super cool.

780
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 8: And I mean a lot of.

781
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,639
Speaker 12: Street photography stuff is great as well. I mean, you know,

782
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,760
I've taken photos of people in Boston just playing guitars

783
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,519
on the side of the streets stuff like that. And again,

784
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,039
it's like to other people that might seem like super mundane,

785
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,239
but you're you're capturing a moment there, yeah, you know,

786
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,079
and it's it's just with a camera. It's just it's

787
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,599
so cool. Yeah, that's another aspect of love. And I'm like,

788
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,440
this is so cool, right, right, Like it's great.

789
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Not only that, but if you take a picture of

790
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,960
somebody with a guitar, you never know exactly right, You

791
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:45,679
just never know.

792
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:49,559
Speaker 12: And that's the other cool aspect of it. And again,

793
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,199
it's like when you as a photographer and you take

794
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,480
a photo of someone, that's also a conversation initiated.

795
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:54,599
Speaker 7: You know.

796
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:56,679
Speaker 12: As I mentioned before, I love talking to people, and

797
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,360
that's a great way to be like, hey, I got

798
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,039
this super cool photo of you. Same time, some people

799
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:02,800
might be like, hey, why did you take a photo

800
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,119
of me?

801
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Which that's something I'm curious about too, so do you

802
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,599
ever have someone who you know you want to take

803
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,440
their picture and they and they say no.

804
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 12: So I when it comes to me on my own,

805
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,719
you know, when I'm out in public, I definitely do

806
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,320
tend to ask people first. Or if it's for example,

807
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,239
like if someone is you know, playing a guitar or

808
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,880
actually like doing something, you know, I tend to take

809
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,559
the photo first and then show it to them and

810
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,400
then you know, if they want me to delete it,

811
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,440
obviously I'm gonna respect their right to privacy and I'm

812
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,719
gonna get rid of the photo. But I definitely do make,

813
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,239
you know, initiation to actually ask people like, hey, can

814
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,639
I take a photo of you? Because again, like I

815
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,480
I'm very you know, big on privacy because I mean,

816
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,000
I mean everyone should be. It's just respectful and you know,

817
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:47,960
it's just common sense.

818
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

819
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 12: But I mean, I know, at the the rallies and

820
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,039
stuff like that, I've had people come up to me

821
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,960
and they like, are you a cop? And I'm like, no, really, no,

822
00:45:58,559 --> 00:45:59,920
I mean it doesn't really. I mean I got the

823
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,639
short hair, I'm a tall yeah, I got my fit

824
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,400
white dude who wears khakis and yeah, polo shirts a lot. Yeah,

825
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,159
I totally get it, uh, And I totally get you know,

826
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,159
people's worry about that stuff. But I'm like, no, I'm

827
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,800
not a police officer. And they're like, oh, do you

828
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,639
work for the press or something like that. I'm like no,

829
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:19,679
I'm like just a dude, I promise.

830
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm with you, you know, yeah, you know.

831
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,119
Speaker 12: But I I kind of like laugh at it now,

832
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:28,559
you know what I mean, because I'm like, well, I mean,

833
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,199
do you see a bat? Like, no, I'm not a

834
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,880
police officer. And it It actually happened a lot yesterday

835
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,039
at the I was at the Portsmouth Airport photographing the

836
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,440
anti ice protest there, and I did get like around

837
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:44,920
three people who are like, hey, dude, are you are

838
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,480
you a cop? And I was like, no, no, I'm

839
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:54,480
not funny, Like I just take pictures like oh that's funny. Yeah,

840
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,960
but you know, just having simple conversations with people and

841
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:58,760
be like hey, no, you know, I'm just here to

842
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,000
document the event and stuff like that.

843
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 12: Everyone that I've come across so far has been like Okay,

845
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,639
you know, thanks for being here and stuff like that.

846
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,960
And I do understand the worry that that. I mean,

847
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,159
we do live in you know, pretty sketchy times, right,

848
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:11,760
so I totally understand it.

849
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Todd Air of course from the Hanging

850
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,519
Left podcast, and he is in the chat room. He says,

851
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:20,039
love to go out and have you give me a

852
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,920
refresher on photography, and he says he loves street photography

853
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
as well. Very good, and we should mention, of course

854
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,280
Todd from the uh yeah, Hanging Left. I guess you're

855
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,519
coming on board with us officially, right, absolutely, so we'll

856
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:36,119
have so Andrew and I and Todd. We host the

857
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,760
Hanging Left podcast. You can find that online and it

858
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,960
is on all your favorite podcasting platforms of course. But yeah,

859
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,679
so you must you're with Todd every day, right because

860
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,440
you both work on the campaign. We won't get into

861
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,920
it in depth here, but the campaign. Do you want

862
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,719
to mention the campaign?

863
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 7: Ye?

864
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 12: So I am a campaign photographer for Sarah Chidzinsky, she's

865
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,880
running for congress here in New Hampshire. That's another thing

866
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,159
that's that I was like, you know, back to what

867
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,119
inspired me to do photography was not just you know,

868
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,760
political rallies and protests and stuff like that, but also

869
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,679
like my absolute dream is to be a white house photographer. Really, yes,

870
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:19,119
that is I went to d C for my eighth

871
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:23,320
grade field trip, and this was sort of where, like,

872
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,159
you know, the first flame began of all. I really

873
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,519
want to be a photographer. I've always been interested in history,

874
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,519
you know, and you can't really be interested in history

875
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,440
without being history and with you know, interested in politics

876
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,800
hand in hand. Yeah, you know, it just doesn't really

877
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,880
make sense for you to like history and then not

878
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,320
like the thing that dictates like all of history.

879
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course.

880
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 12: But I remember being there, you know, as like a

881
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,840
twelve year old, thirteen year old kid, and I was

882
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,920
just like, this is this is where I want to be.

883
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

884
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:53,119
Speaker 12: Again, I had an iPhone at the time, and I

885
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:54,559
was just taking pictures of everything.

886
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

887
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 12: I actually I still have a photo of me in

888
00:48:57,159 --> 00:48:58,679
front of the White House and I was like, that's

889
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,480
where I want to be. Oh no, okay, I have

890
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,960
actually have Pete So's's photo book. He was Obama's chief

891
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,679
White House photographer the images. He was actually also Reagan's

892
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:09,480
photographer as well.

893
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 16: Yeah.

894
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,079
Speaker 12: So, I mean it's so interesting. He's an amazing guy,

895
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:17,840
and the the types of photos and the quality of

896
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,159
photos that that man was able to produce is insane really. Yeah,

897
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:23,840
he's like, he's like one of those people that I

898
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440
look up to, you know, because I mean that's that's

899
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:28,760
what I want to be right there in the Oval

900
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,039
office photographing what's going on. Yeah, you know, it's just, man,

901
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,079
I'm just I can nerd out about it for like

902
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:36,960
the longest time. But it's great.

903
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: Are there are there any specific photos that come to

904
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,239
mind of of that are sort of iconic in your

905
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,920
mind of of at the White House that that perhaps

906
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,679
at gentleman, would you say his name was Pete?

907
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,159
Speaker 12: So I believe that's how you pronounce his name.

908
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: Like, are there are there any specific photos you can

909
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,039
think of that he's taken that you can describe that

910
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:56,400
the the.

911
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 12: One that comes from One of my favorite photos is

912
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,800
the photo of Obama and his staff in the situation

913
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,159
room during the bin Laden raid.

914
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: That was the first one I thought of when you mentioned, yeah,

915
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,519
photos from the White House. Yeah.

916
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 12: I look at that photo almost every day, and it's

917
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,920
like to capture a photo like that, it's just it's

918
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,480
just insane. Yeah, I mean that, like it just blows

919
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:24,599
my mind, like not only was he there in that

920
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,559
moment in that room with all the super important people,

921
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,639
he got to document that like that, like that is

922
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,199
forever in history because of him. And that's just the

923
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,880
thought of that's just insane, you know. And you know,

924
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,440
even just like sort of the again what other people

925
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:43,199
might think is like mundane, but like the photos of

926
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,480
you know, one of Obama's daughters, like sneaking behind the

927
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:49,679
couch to like surprise him. It's like when you think

928
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,000
of the Oval Office, like in my brain, it's a

929
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,320
super serious place and all this stuff. But I mean again,

930
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,800
at the end of the day, like they're still human,

931
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,880
right exactly, especially you know, you know, as young girls

932
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,639
growing up in the White House, like they're still going

933
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,519
to do all those kid things like you know, scaring

934
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:06,199
or surprising they're dead. It's just that and again you

935
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,400
it just shows like the humanity aspect and it's just

936
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:11,599
that is that is one of the things that also

937
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,280
I love about photography is just capturing humanity, Yeah, in

938
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,320
its purest form. Yeah, and it's it's just great. I

939
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:19,760
love it.

940
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. So that that's the long term goal.

941
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 12: That's that's what that would be. To get to d

942
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:29,039
C and to do that, Yeah, that would be insane.

943
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Absolutely, Oh yeah, Todd says too. Yeah,

944
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:40,559
that's an amazing photo. He says, show Matt the protest

945
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:42,280
photo you took of me after the show.

946
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 12: I can definitely send that over to you.

947
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, absolutely absolutely. Oh the time goes

948
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:54,079
so quick. Yeah, this has been wonderful. Yeah, you know,

949
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:55,880
and looking forward to talking to you of course on

950
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the next hanging left as well. Absolutely, where should people

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go to uh to follow you online? And if they

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want to see I assume do you have a website

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or something where you put a lot of these photos?

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Speaker 3: Are so?

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Speaker 12: I So the website is Friday dash Photography dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay I do.

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Speaker 12: I also am Friday Photography on uh Facebook as well.

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So the way to find that really is so the

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logo with the like Jason Voorhees esque hockey mask its.

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It's a play on my last name, you know, like Vorhees,

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Friday Photography, Friday the thirteenth. You know, yeah, a lot

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of people don't really know what that is, but you know, UH,

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look it up. Friday the thirteenth. That's a super good

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horror film. I believe it came out in the round

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the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth. Probably I never got I never got

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into those movies but early eighties, the early eighties.

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Speaker 12: And you can also just search up my name on

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Facebook as well. I post all my stuff on there,

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and that's just as an Apple and d R E

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w V as the victor O O R H E

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E S. I'm also on Instagram Andrew dot Andrew dot

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V hold on, okay, let me right.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, we won't make sure people can.

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Speaker 12: Uh there you Andrew dot V thirteen on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very good, very good.

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Speaker 12: And for those who use blue Sky, oh yes, I

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am the camera guy thirteen dot b Sky dot Social.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to find you on Blue Sky if I

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if I if we're not already connected. I I have

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Blue Sky, I I have the app on my phone

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and everything, but I forget to use it, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie to you like I do the

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same thing. I'm like, oh yeah that does exist. And

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I know a lot of people have switched from X

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to Blue Sky like that. So yeah, I do need

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to get on there a lot more.

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 2: Every every time I'm reminded of it's like, oh I

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got to do that, and then I I'll forget about

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it again. Well, very good. Well, Andrew Vorhees, thank you

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so much.

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Speaker 12: This has been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm sure we'll do it again in the future.

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Speaker 9: Ye.

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Speaker 2: Absolute, And I'll see you on the podcast The Well

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So Wonderful. Well, if you are listening live on Saturday,

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stick around Amber. Nicole Cannon is coming up in the

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second hour. Is she in the building, Jenny, She is

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in the building, so looking forward to speaking with her.

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And in hour three, our friend Nancy Manet is going

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to be joining us online via Microsoft Teams all the

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way from Texas to talk about her new single. But

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so stick around. Plenty more to come here on this

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Saturday on Matt connorton Unleashed and Andrew thank you again, Yeah,

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thank you, you got it.

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