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Speaker 2: And welcome to tonight's show. A couple of things I
Speaker 2: want to talk about real quick before we get into
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Speaker 2: starting next week, I should have an occasional co host,
Speaker 2: an anthropology student named Luke Saint Clair. He has been
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Speaker 2: ghost Hunters of the Finger Lakes. He didn't talk a lot.
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Speaker 2: again again next week, and that'll be the interview along
Speaker 2: with Mike Clelland and Aaron Gullius, part three of our
Speaker 2: discussion on the history of UFOs, trying to strip it
Speaker 2: down and look at it in different ways. And I
Speaker 2: believe we're starting with nineteen eighty ish time period next week.
Speaker 2: All right, So for this week, I have Chad and
Speaker 2: Alter I'm sorry, Chad and Alta Dillard, and they are
Speaker 2: a couple of people who have had some very strange experiences.
Speaker 2: They approach them very open mindedly, which is something I've
Speaker 2: found to be very refreshing. They don't try to define
Speaker 2: what happened to them as much as just tell the
Speaker 2: story of what happened to them. So take it as
Speaker 2: you will. I find their story rather compelling. It's definitely interesting,
Speaker 2: and we will be doing this will be part one
Speaker 2: of two. We will be doing part two in about
Speaker 2: a month because there was just too much going on.
Speaker 2: This takes care of the of who they are and
Speaker 2: their first really major experience, and when we come back
Speaker 2: in a month with part two, they'll get into some
Speaker 2: of the even stranger stuff that has happened to them since.
Speaker 2: So that's that. Here's the interview with Chad and Alta Dillard.
Speaker 2: All right, so Chad and Alto, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thank you, yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2: Now you are currently traveling the country.
Speaker 8: We are. We're traveling literally throughout for the rest of
Speaker 8: the year. We started our venture about a.
Speaker 2: Month ago, okay, and what do you do on weekends?
Speaker 8: We do We consider ourselves our of a sort. We
Speaker 8: create a wearable art. That is, I'm originally from a
Speaker 8: reservation in Arizona of mixed native blood, and we decided
Speaker 8: to take a format of part of my regalia. It's
Speaker 8: a shawl, an honor shawl, and we create them. We're
Speaker 8: the only ones in the country doing it outside of
Speaker 8: the native world, and we've opened it up to other cultures.
Speaker 8: We use the format of a Native American shawl that
Speaker 8: we have started creating them in all kinds of fabrics
Speaker 8: and design and what have you. And as I said,
Speaker 8: we're the only ones doing it, and a lot of
Speaker 8: these shows are very happy to have us because we're unusual.
Speaker 8: We're called unique rabbit shawls, and I think we are
Speaker 8: really quite unique.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, And we'll post no rabbits.
Speaker 8: Used in the making of our work, No critters, ah, Okay.
Speaker 2: I'll post links for that stuff for people too if
Speaker 2: they want to check it out. But we're the main
Speaker 2: reason we have you on is you've had some very
Speaker 2: unusual experiences in your lives. When did all this start?
Speaker 8: Well, Chad's kind of guiding for me to start it off.
Speaker 8: I'm ten years older than Chad, and I preface that
Speaker 8: because I'm born in fifty seven, nineteen fifty seven, as
Speaker 8: I said, on a reservation in Arizona. It's made of blood,
Speaker 8: and I have a pretty mysterious past and a lot
Speaker 8: of the questions in my past life I can't get
Speaker 8: answered because I was raised primarily by a mom who
Speaker 8: left the reservation area when I was six months old,
Speaker 8: and she traveled the country, and there were a lot of,
Speaker 8: as I said, a lot of mystery in my early childhood.
Speaker 8: One of those mysteries is that I don't have any
Speaker 8: childhood memory until I'm about nine or ten. I have
Speaker 8: no memory prior to that at all. And my first
Speaker 8: memory is very acute, And as I've said in the past,
Speaker 8: it's not like I it seems like one day I
Speaker 8: just woke up at around nine years old. And in
Speaker 8: that experience, I'm in a military hospital in Aurora, Colorado,
Speaker 8: where we lived at the time, my mom and myself
Speaker 8: and my stepfather. My stepfather was not in the military.
Speaker 8: I don't seem to have a military background in the family.
Speaker 8: That yet I was in a hospital called Fitzsimmons Hospital,
Speaker 8: and I was being tested for what was commonly called
Speaker 8: ESP And that's literally my first memory of sitting in
Speaker 8: a hospital room with people around me in long white
Speaker 8: lap coat testing me for as they called it. ESP.
Speaker 2: Oh. So, as far as you know, this stuff has
Speaker 2: been happening to you all.
Speaker 8: Your life, I suspect it has been my mom. Just
Speaker 8: to add to that kind of quickly, my mom, who
Speaker 8: passed in nineteen ninety seven. So I don't have her physically,
Speaker 8: you know, to speak to any longer to ask any
Speaker 8: of these questions. But she would say to the few
Speaker 8: people that she trusted, and it was very few throughout
Speaker 8: my life, that when I was about six months old,
Speaker 8: So this would have made it somewhere between fifty seven
Speaker 8: and fifty eight. She claims that she was driving across
Speaker 8: the desert, and I don't know what desert she's speaking about,
Speaker 8: because I never questioned her. I never challenged anything she said,
Speaker 8: nor did the people she ever told this to, So
Speaker 8: a lot of this is just an open ended mystery
Speaker 8: for me. But she would She claimed that while she
Speaker 8: was driving, I was the only passenger in the car
Speaker 8: with her, and as I said, I was six months old.
Speaker 8: She says that it was daylight, and that a sometimes
Speaker 8: she would use the word ufo. Sometimes she would say
Speaker 8: a small metallic craft, she claims, came down out of
Speaker 8: the sky and literally stopped her on the highway from driving.
Speaker 8: Now that's about as far as she ever got with
Speaker 8: that story. I don't ever remember anybody ever asking her.
Speaker 8: It was more, you know, their mouths hanging open with
Speaker 8: what strangeness she was saying to them, And it was
Speaker 8: something I felt very embarrassed about for whatever reason, I
Speaker 8: have no idea that I felt extremely embarrassed when she
Speaker 8: would bring that up. So I never I didn't want
Speaker 8: to know, and I never questioned her. But apparently it
Speaker 8: hadn't been going on all my life.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, did this intensify when you met Chad?
Speaker 8: It absolutely did. Absolutely. I don't remember ever having any
Speaker 8: interest whatsoever in anything in space. I had no other
Speaker 8: than the beauty of the stars. I just literally had
Speaker 8: no interest in any of this, any of this arena whatsoever.
Speaker 8: I wasn't even interested in science fiction movies. So it
Speaker 8: wasn't something that I ever, you know, delved into or
Speaker 8: what have you. And in nineteen ninety, while living in
Speaker 8: Little Rock, Arkansas, this is where my mom had relocated
Speaker 8: herself and had created quite a life for herself. She'd
Speaker 8: gone to college there, and so on nineteen ninety, I
Speaker 8: was thirty three years old, never married, nor had I
Speaker 8: had children, nor did I have any interest in either.
Speaker 8: I wasn't interested in marriage nor having children of my own.
Speaker 8: But there's no doubt to me whatsoever that un scene force.
Speaker 8: I feel this union that I'm in with Chad was
Speaker 8: arranged by I always say, by them, them is the
Speaker 8: unseen force, this hidden hand, if you will, seem to
Speaker 8: bring Dad and I together in nineteen ninety. And so
Speaker 8: it absolutely began to amp up when I was arranged
Speaker 8: with Chad in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Now how did they arrange it per se.
Speaker 8: Well, it was Valentine's Day. And you know, without sounding
Speaker 8: as if I never want to come across as if
Speaker 8: I don't love Chad or care about Chad deeply, because
Speaker 8: I do with all my soul and all my being.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 8: It's as if these beings that appeared in the form
Speaker 8: of humans made sure that Chad and I met on
Speaker 8: Valentine's Day, nineteen ninety. And you know, there's quite a
Speaker 8: bit to that story, but I'll preface it with saying
Speaker 8: that not only am I convinced that these beings that
Speaker 8: appeared in human form brought Chad and I together, but
Speaker 8: within twenty four hours of us meeting, we discovered that
Speaker 8: Chad's grandfather, who had passed on before I came into
Speaker 8: the picture, he was fairly responsible for raising Chad throughout
Speaker 8: his early life, him and his younger brother. So Chad
Speaker 8: very close to this man. But he knew this man
Speaker 8: is George. The world knew him as George or Papa.
Speaker 8: And come to find out this grandfather and I share
Speaker 8: the same identical name as in his first name that's
Speaker 8: on his tombstone, it's Alta fame as mine, and that's
Speaker 8: just too bizarre for words for me. And also his
Speaker 8: last name is Duncan, and that happens to be my
Speaker 8: mom's name. So, as I've said in the past, here
Speaker 8: I am mixed Indian from a reservation in Arizona with
Speaker 8: this strange name Alta. I moved to the South, I
Speaker 8: meet Chad and we find out that his grandfather and
Speaker 8: I share this identical name. So it goes beyond coincidence.
Speaker 8: I've never been a coincidence kind of person, and it
Speaker 8: goes way beyond all of that. And to this day,
Speaker 8: we still can't find out. We've never been able to
Speaker 8: find out how his grandfather ended up with this name
Speaker 8: of Alta. You know, there's there's no there's no legacy
Speaker 8: there whatsoever. And that's just a that's as much of
Speaker 8: a mystery as my childhood.
Speaker 2: Huh. Now, what about ched? Did Chad have unusual experiences
Speaker 2: growing up as well?
Speaker 7: Well? I had a few. My dad was a farmer
Speaker 7: in Arkansas back in the you know, for the sixties seventies.
Speaker 7: I remember one time we had a sweeping field at
Speaker 7: the time out the side our house, and I remember
Speaker 7: my dad, my uncle, and my grandfather talking about these
Speaker 7: three burnt circles. They were perfect circles, probably twelve fifteen
Speaker 7: feet in diameter, just kind of boom boom boom, right
Speaker 7: in a road. And they were right outside between our
Speaker 7: house and our little shop that they had for the
Speaker 7: tractors and all, you know, no explanation. You know, nobody
Speaker 7: knew where they came from. Nobody saw anything or anything
Speaker 7: like that. But that was kind of weird. I remember, now,
Speaker 7: I wasn't with my dad at the time. I was
Speaker 7: been you know, most of the school time year with
Speaker 7: my mom and then summertimes with my dad after they
Speaker 7: split up, and I remember my dad telling me that
Speaker 7: they'd come home. My dad and my stepmother came home
Speaker 7: and the whole house was rearranged, you know, the furniture,
Speaker 7: the you know, everything in the cabinet. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: the whole house was just incorated. You know. Wow, you
Speaker 7: know now, you know, I wasn't around at that time,
Speaker 7: but yeah, so you know, little things like that, not
Speaker 7: as dramatic as outset, but you know I did have
Speaker 7: a few.
Speaker 2: Okay, so after you two met, what started happening then?
Speaker 8: Well, so this arrangement, as I said, I've always called
Speaker 8: us an arranged union. In nineteen ninety we'll move us
Speaker 8: forward now to nightteen ninety five. Chad and I have
Speaker 8: relocated to Louisiana, and we were living in a small
Speaker 8: community just outside of a university town about an hour
Speaker 8: or so out of New Orleans called Hamon, Louisiana. And one,
Speaker 8: please keep in mind again, I've never had any interest
Speaker 8: in uphos or anything of that nature, Chad saying the
Speaker 8: same thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not really any sci fi or you know, we
Speaker 7: weren't you know, searching for you know, UFOs or anything
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 8: And so one evening, one evening and nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 8: after we had just moved to this area, Chad had
Speaker 8: asked me out for dinner after work one night, and
Speaker 8: so we were driving. It was still light out, so
Speaker 8: you know, it was before dark. We were just going
Speaker 8: to go out and have dinner and drinks and just
Speaker 8: a nice evening out. I'll have Chad pick it up
Speaker 8: from there. What happened to us.
Speaker 7: Well, we you know, we were driving. I'm driving out
Speaker 7: to the passenger seat and right around this kind of
Speaker 7: bend in the road, and this group of trees was
Speaker 7: the local Walmart shopping center, the super size Walmart shopping center.
Speaker 7: And when we get around this group of trees out
Speaker 7: to I kind of look up in the in the air,
Speaker 7: in the sky and on the passenger side of the road,
Speaker 7: I would say, below cloud level is this huge, huge
Speaker 7: crowd and.
Speaker 8: Like a floating city.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean huge battleship side, you know, mothership side.
Speaker 7: You know, it was very flat on the bottom, kind
Speaker 7: of an obelisk shape. You know, it was our rectangle,
Speaker 7: but not not as wide in the front as it
Speaker 7: was in the back.
Speaker 8: I think he's meaning to say, like more like a
Speaker 8: trios police that's something of.
Speaker 7: That means it's you know, it's totally black, totally real
Speaker 7: dark sound sound, moving very.
Speaker 8: Slow, almost like not moving at all.
Speaker 7: Two or three lights in the front, three or four
Speaker 7: in the back. You know, she looks back at me.
Speaker 7: I look at her and is this to say? You know, okay,
Speaker 7: And you know, without saying a word to each other,
Speaker 7: you know, we were like okay, you know, focus back
Speaker 7: on the road. You know, if we don't see it,
Speaker 7: it won't see us, and you know, we'll just keep
Speaker 7: one going. We went on dinner that night. We I
Speaker 7: don't remember speaking about it, never spoke about it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: The next morning, I do remember either something in the news,
Speaker 7: local newspaper or radio or something like that.
Speaker 8: So what you're saying is others had seen it and reported.
Speaker 7: It right during during the experience, you know, I didn't
Speaker 7: see anybody running off the road or stopping their cars
Speaker 7: or panicking or anything like that. But you know, apparently
Speaker 7: there was sightings of this, of this craft.
Speaker 8: You know, and people have really questioned us over our
Speaker 8: reaction that there's no book of rules in this we've discovered.
Speaker 8: And in all honesty, I went into complete shock. That's
Speaker 8: the only explanation I have, because my head jerked away
Speaker 8: so fast. I mean, I turned my head away from
Speaker 8: it instantly, and I stared at Chad like baking. Chad
Speaker 8: silently to tell me that that was not there, and
Speaker 8: we literally, as Chad said, made up our minds. It
Speaker 8: was a non event. It didn't happen, And yet we
Speaker 8: weren't allowed to escape that because others had seen and
Speaker 8: reported it, but even after we heard about others seeing it,
Speaker 8: we still refused to speak of it. We never even
Speaker 8: spoke about it.
Speaker 2: And that's not a totally unusual response to something like
Speaker 2: that either.
Speaker 8: Thank you for saying that, because most people just think
Speaker 8: that's just the strangest thing of our reaction, and yet
Speaker 8: you know it was our reaction. It was it was
Speaker 8: non even to us.
Speaker 2: As you said, it wasn't something you were interested in.
Speaker 2: I could see it being an odd reaction if you
Speaker 2: were really interested in UFOs, but that not being a
Speaker 2: part of your reality. To see something like that to
Speaker 2: just kind of try to block it out of your
Speaker 2: reality is not an unusual reaction whatsoever.
Speaker 8: Thank you for that.
Speaker 7: And you know this was before cell phones and you
Speaker 7: know cameras you know is easily you know, accessible and
Speaker 7: all that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had a we had an astral physicist asked
Speaker 8: us on it during an interview. You know why we
Speaker 8: didn't get pictures kind of language, rather than hearing us
Speaker 8: stating the fact that it was as if we were
Speaker 8: in shock, total shock.
Speaker 2: Right right, and in nineteen ninety five too. It's not
Speaker 2: like cameras are like they are today, and people don't
Speaker 2: always understand that. I mean, nowadays everything has a camera
Speaker 2: on it, but in nineteen ninety five, we had to
Speaker 2: have a camera to you know, be able to take
Speaker 2: a picture.
Speaker 8: That's right, not handy as we were going out just
Speaker 8: to have dinner and drinks that night. Nope, that was
Speaker 8: the sension, the beginning for us to realize that what
Speaker 8: I suspected from nineteen ninety started feeling like it was
Speaker 8: more real than I wanted to admit to.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and this led up to something in
Speaker 2: the French Quarter in New Orleans, right, So it.
Speaker 8: Wasn't long after this this event then Chat and I
Speaker 8: then moved to the French Quarter, and this would have
Speaker 8: been now in ninety five, later on in that year.
Speaker 8: And then it took from ninety five until nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 8: as we were living and working in the French Quarter
Speaker 8: and doing quite well for ourselves and making a good
Speaker 8: name for ourselves and just really enjoying life. We'd had
Speaker 8: a lot of I refer to all of this, and
Speaker 8: I always have as high strangeness. I call every bit
Speaker 8: of this. I don't use the word aliens or abducted
Speaker 8: or any of this language. I've always just referred to
Speaker 8: everything there normal as high strangeness. From ninety five until
Speaker 8: ninety seven, the high strangeness was amping up, really amping up.
Speaker 8: French Quarter is a bizarre place anyway. I call it
Speaker 8: a mystical madness living there. It's quite amazing and it
Speaker 8: takes a certain caliber person I feel that, you know,
Speaker 8: can navigate that kind of environment with voodoo. Who do
Speaker 8: she do? Don't do? Ghost sees? Right? You know, just
Speaker 8: all the things that you hear about, or you read about,
Speaker 8: or you see, this was happening to us in those
Speaker 8: forms lots of ghost experiences, time slips. I had personally
Speaker 8: what I at least during the experience, there was a
Speaker 8: female that presented herself to me that she didn't call
Speaker 8: herself the Virgin Mary, nor did I, nor do I
Speaker 8: even to this day that it seemed as if I
Speaker 8: was having one of those kinds of encounters with a
Speaker 8: veiled woman. And again, just lots of high strangeness taking
Speaker 8: place really Ambibout.
Speaker 2: I think high strangeness is a good way of putting
Speaker 2: it because it's not just one type of thing. From
Speaker 2: the sounds of it, that was different types of things.
Speaker 2: You know, if you were just seeing ghosts. Then it's
Speaker 2: not necessarily high strangeness. But having a number of different
Speaker 2: things happened to you, I think qualifies as high strangeness experiences.
Speaker 8: Right, We've seen, we were, we were involving, you know,
Speaker 8: in all the various forums these kinds of experiences. It
Speaker 8: seems like the absolut titles me. I don't know what
Speaker 8: else to call any of.
Speaker 2: It, right, And I think it's good that you're not
Speaker 2: trying to fit it into a to pigeonhole it into
Speaker 2: a specific dogma.
Speaker 8: Either, Thank you, Thank you for that. Yeah, I've refused
Speaker 8: to do that from the beginning. You know, we've had
Speaker 8: everyone else suggest to us what it is, but we
Speaker 8: don't or I don't in particularly now Chad and I
Speaker 8: are very different, and I'm grateful for that about our experiences.
Speaker 8: But I personally I see the trickster element and all
Speaker 8: of this, and oftentimes I would just I question everything.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the best way to be.
Speaker 8: I think it's been working so far, you know, other
Speaker 8: than the folks that are very dogmatic about it being
Speaker 8: aliens and abduction and ghosts and you know this and that,
Speaker 8: so far, it's worked well for me to not think
Speaker 8: in terms of anything other than it's all high strangeness
Speaker 8: and as I said, a trickster element.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so now you met this woman Jacqueline as well.
Speaker 8: Right now Jacqueline is we have her talent in writing,
Speaker 8: but she has chosen, maybe very wisely, to never go
Speaker 8: public herself. But she she knew that Chad and I
Speaker 8: were going to be public about this and that at
Speaker 8: some point we intended to try to write We never
Speaker 8: intended to write a book, as everybody seems to write books,
Speaker 8: but we finally were guided a couple of years ago
Speaker 8: to we're in the process of trying to get this recorded,
Speaker 8: you know, for posterity, if nothing else, to Chad and I.
Speaker 8: But Jacqueline has just always chose to let us do
Speaker 8: the talking about it, and she's felt that, you know,
Speaker 8: we've handled this well, and she just has. She went
Speaker 8: on to have a and has created a great life
Speaker 8: for herself. So she has stayed, you know, publicly silent,
Speaker 8: but certainly not without giving us permission, if you will,
Speaker 8: to speak on her behalf. And she came into our lives.
Speaker 8: I was working in a real exclusive salon in the
Speaker 8: French Quarter and she had been hired as one of
Speaker 8: our managers for the shop. And she was at the time,
Speaker 8: just to give you an idea of age range, she
Speaker 8: was twenty four, never married, no children, who was thirty
Speaker 8: and I had just turned forty. And the moment that
Speaker 8: Jacqueline and I met in the shop, it was like
Speaker 8: old Home week. It certainly was that way for me.
Speaker 8: I felt that I was meeting a familiar. It was
Speaker 8: love at first time. She's a very joyous soul. She's
Speaker 8: very straightforward, no bs kind of person. You know, she
Speaker 8: has a joyous laugh and she had this wounderful sense
Speaker 8: of humor of it. She spoke me nobody that I
Speaker 8: would ever found, you know, she said something. I always
Speaker 8: took it to the bank. And even at twenty four,
Speaker 8: she was old, way beyond her years, but again, a
Speaker 8: very joyous soul, tall, slender, long block. Here there's a
Speaker 8: reason for us giving this description. And as I said,
Speaker 8: from the moment we first met, it was just it
Speaker 8: was like finding family. It felt like family for me.
Speaker 8: And then when she met Chad, he was like a
Speaker 8: brother to her. You know, it was just it all worked.
Speaker 8: The three of us just worked well with each other
Speaker 8: as friends. And on this particular evening she had asked
Speaker 8: if I wanted to go out and you know, party
Speaker 8: in the French Quarter and have dinner and drinks. Again,
Speaker 8: I think it's had dinner and drinks thing that seemed
Speaker 8: to get Chad and I when I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 8: So we happened to live only a couple of blocks.
Speaker 8: Chad and I had a townhouse, just a couple of
Speaker 8: blocks from the salon, so I told Jaquelin, let's call Chad.
Speaker 8: I know he'll want to come join. And he always
Speaker 8: liked playing with the girls, and she's acutie Patuti, so
Speaker 8: he you know, he just walked over a couple of
Speaker 8: blocks and joined us at the shop that evening. She
Speaker 8: was doing her duties closing the shop up. We were
Speaker 8: just going to leave from the shop on foot and
Speaker 8: make a night of it across the French Quarter. I'd
Speaker 8: like to also mention before I forget, Jacqueline didn't live
Speaker 8: in the French Quarter at the time. She lived across
Speaker 8: the river, and for folks who lived on the other
Speaker 8: side of the river, they either took the ferry back
Speaker 8: and forth if they worked in the quarter, or they drove.
Speaker 8: She did both. She had a car, and on this
Speaker 8: particular day, most of the time she used the ferry,
Speaker 8: but on this particular day she happened to drive to
Speaker 8: work that morning or that late that afternoon, and she
Speaker 8: parked her car just up the street from our stop,
Speaker 8: which is important to remember down the line in this story. So,
Speaker 8: as they said, we were going to do this night
Speaker 8: all on foot, and we were just going to start
Speaker 8: from one end of the French Quarter and work our
Speaker 8: way across, and it's probably about twenty three blocks square.
Speaker 8: I think something of that nature. From the moment we
Speaker 8: stepped outside of the shop, I very clearly remember it
Speaker 8: feeling weird to me. And it's hard to describe what
Speaker 8: feeling weird means, but I clearly could feel the vibration
Speaker 8: was off, the energy was strange.
Speaker 2: It just felt me zone that twilight zone, sort of feeling.
Speaker 8: Thank you, you just took the words right out of
Speaker 8: my little brain. That's exactly how I've described it. It
Speaker 8: felt like I had stepped into the twilight zone. And
Speaker 8: so as we started our evening, we discovered very quickly
Speaker 8: the three of us that we were in the twilight zone.
Speaker 8: Because the French Porter is a I don't know if
Speaker 8: you've ever been there or not, but it's a twenty
Speaker 8: four to seven party. It's it never sleeps, you know,
Speaker 8: it's non stop and even when it flow months in
Speaker 8: the you know for the tourism, it's still always busy.
Speaker 8: But not this night. Again, the twilight his own it was,
Speaker 8: there were very few people. We started off on the
Speaker 8: famous Bourbon Street, walking down Building Street on there weren't
Speaker 8: people and there were the three of us were looking
Speaker 8: at each other, what's going on? Where is everybody? And
Speaker 8: so in a short amount of time we discovered, as
Speaker 8: we made that twenty three blocks, we were clearly experiencing
Speaker 8: something we couldn't explain because there just weren't any people.
Speaker 8: None of the clubs had any work staff in them.
Speaker 8: You know, if it had a restaurant, there was no
Speaker 8: weight staff. If it had a bar, they had maybe
Speaker 8: a bartender, but there were no patrons in any of
Speaker 8: the locations that we stopped at. We never stayed at
Speaker 8: any of them. We just we didn't We didn't drink alcohol,
Speaker 8: nor did we take drugs, nor was there anybody around
Speaker 8: to drug us, you know, which would have been helpful
Speaker 8: maybe to explain some of this down the road, but
Speaker 8: right there weren't even there wasn't even anybody around to
Speaker 8: drug us. So, you know, we didn't even have that
Speaker 8: as an excuse. We just literally found ourselves stopping at
Speaker 8: three different locations that we were very familiar with, and
Speaker 8: the minute we'd get you know, inside the door, we
Speaker 8: would see there wasn't a you know, it was the
Speaker 8: same story each place we stopped.
Speaker 2: So how long how long did this last for.
Speaker 8: You know, a whole hour we were out there, and
Speaker 8: how it took us an hour? About an hour?
Speaker 5: Is that right?
Speaker 8: Chat? We started around nine point thirty. And the last
Speaker 8: thing the three of us seemed to collectively remember, and
Speaker 8: as I said, we have it in Jacklin's writing she
Speaker 8: seems to remember as Chat and I do, around eleven o'clock.
Speaker 8: And that's the last thing the three of us remember,
Speaker 8: so about an hour an hour and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now you all have different experiences in
Speaker 2: this time period as well, right, we did.
Speaker 8: If I may, we'll you know, however you'd like us
Speaker 8: to explain this to you. I'm the only one that
Speaker 8: seems to have come back, if you will, from whatever
Speaker 8: this experience was, with what I call memory, and it's
Speaker 8: very strong, again, acute memory of what I call the
Speaker 8: in between experience. I have no memory whatsoever, not even
Speaker 8: to this day, of coming off that street corner, nor
Speaker 8: do I have any memory whatsoever the return home the
Speaker 8: next day. But literally one minute I'm on the street
Speaker 8: corner around eleven o'clock at night telling Chad, I'm so bored,
Speaker 8: I just want to go home. And then the next
Speaker 8: thing I know, I'm sitting straight up in my living
Speaker 8: room on my day bed. I had a brass day
Speaker 8: bed in the living room and I was sitting Indian
Speaker 8: staf like I normally like I'm doing right now when
Speaker 8: i'm you know, pup, when I'm by myself, And that's
Speaker 8: how I came to.
Speaker 5: I didn't wake up.
Speaker 8: I came to. My eyes popped open, and I was
Speaker 8: sitting straight up, and I looked around and I was
Speaker 8: in my home and it was the next day, and
Speaker 8: I'm flipping out, is putting it mildly rubbing. I'm rubbing
Speaker 8: my arms and I can feel something in my upper arm.
Speaker 8: It wasn't there the night before. And while I'm, you know,
Speaker 8: having this kind of experiences, and I'm flipping out inside.
Speaker 8: I'm mortified because where's Chad and where's Jacqueline's all I
Speaker 8: could think of is where are they? And thank goodness,
Speaker 8: you know. Chad then finally woke up for about an
Speaker 8: hour after I came to in our bed, thank goodness,
Speaker 8: and the Jacqueline was still missing. We have no account
Speaker 8: for Jacqueline at all, and it took a couple of
Speaker 8: days before we did have contact with Jacqueline. So Chad
Speaker 8: and I went through unbelievable panic, fear. You can't even
Speaker 8: begin to describe what we were experiencing. Over where is Jacqueline?
Speaker 8: And so if you'd like, now we've had regression done.
Speaker 8: I've tried, and I've paid a lot of money to
Speaker 8: be regressed by you know, a world renowned regressionist, if
Speaker 8: you will, and it failed miserably for me. So I've
Speaker 8: never been able to be regressed. All I have is
Speaker 8: that memory of the in between experience. But Chad has
Speaker 8: had regression and he has a full blown account of
Speaker 8: what he feels happened to him and possibly Jacqueline. That
Speaker 8: keep this in mind, I'm not involved in his experience
Speaker 8: at all, and in my memory of that night, Jacqueline
Speaker 8: and Chad not involved in my experience.
Speaker 2: Okay, well do you want to start with what you
Speaker 2: remembered about your experience.
Speaker 8: So in my case, as I said, one minute, I'm
Speaker 8: on a street corner saying I just want to go home,
Speaker 8: and the next thing I know, I'm standing on the
Speaker 8: edge of a crater. And I'm literally on the edge
Speaker 8: of a crater, looking down in a crater, and the
Speaker 8: coloring around me was like being in a black and
Speaker 8: white movie. It was all gray and black and white
Speaker 8: and blonde. That's the only color involved in that experience.
Speaker 8: When I'm looking down in that crater, I feel a
Speaker 8: metallic structure that I'm not sure if it was a
Speaker 8: building or a craft. I thought at the time that
Speaker 8: it was a large warehouse, like a big metallic warehouse.
Speaker 8: I didn't see any movement down in this crater at all,
Speaker 8: like anybody moving about. Everything was stationary. There were lights
Speaker 8: around the perimeter of this crater that were orbs of
Speaker 8: light that made very well. It feels to me like
Speaker 8: those lights were intelligent. Then I remember kind of pivoting,
Speaker 8: not completely turning around, it sort of looking over my
Speaker 8: shoulder and a bit turned and there were what appeared
Speaker 8: to be humans behind me, a few feet behind me
Speaker 8: that they were stacked on top of each other at
Speaker 8: different ages, all dressed and again looked like humans, you know,
Speaker 8: off of Earth. They seemed to be. They seemed to
Speaker 8: be in suspended animation. Nobody looked upset distressed. I didn't
Speaker 8: steady it long, but you know, that is the memory.
Speaker 8: Then before I could turn around, I'm looking back sorr.
Speaker 8: I turned back to my forward again, facing this crater
Speaker 8: down into this crater. All of a sudden, without any warning,
Speaker 8: there is what appears to be a woman standing right
Speaker 8: next to me, and she's so close that we're touching
Speaker 8: side by side. I have to look up at her.
Speaker 8: She's very tall, well over six feet tall. I'm about
Speaker 8: five to five, but my head had to crank back
Speaker 8: to look up at her. She's absolutely I've had the
Speaker 8: most difficult time ever finding words describing her. She is
Speaker 8: so physically beautiful to me that those words don't really
Speaker 8: even apply. I was just beyond myself in amazement how
Speaker 8: beautiful this woman was. She was had long blonde hair,
Speaker 8: she was perfectly proportioned, wearing a body suit. You know
Speaker 8: that did her perfect. And I just know that I
Speaker 8: was in a state of ecstasy. I said this before
Speaker 8: if I had been a puppy. My tail was wagging.
Speaker 8: I was so yeah, you know, I was childlike, joy
Speaker 8: like just glee. I was in such a state of ecstasy.
Speaker 8: I didn't care where I was. I didn't think anything
Speaker 8: about Chad or Jacqueline or anything.
Speaker 5: I just was so joyous to be with her.
Speaker 8: I never had any other thought other than just how
Speaker 8: happy I am. I was just that happy. I've never
Speaker 8: experienced anything like that. Then I remember looking.
Speaker 5: Up above us into the sky. It's a black sky
Speaker 5: with what appeared to be lots of beautiful stars, very
Speaker 5: bright white lights, and that was joyous. And as I'm
Speaker 5: studying these stars with her, you know, my world's complete.
Speaker 5: The next thing I know, one of those stars began
Speaker 5: to move. And when that began to happen, I went
Speaker 5: from this state of ecstasy to a state of terror.
Speaker 8: Just that fast, my heart started moving like it was
Speaker 8: going to beat out of my chest. I became that afraid.
Speaker 8: Other stars joined in, or these other lights joined in
Speaker 8: the movement. And as they're moving across the sky back
Speaker 8: and forth like doing a dance, I remember her speaking
Speaker 8: to me telepathically with a melodic voice that I'll never
Speaker 8: be able to duplicate. She called me by name, and
Speaker 8: she said in the most meaning voice, she said out
Speaker 8: to don't be afraid, they're just scanning you. And then
Speaker 8: with that, now again I'm in a state of terror
Speaker 8: as she what I think is trying to calm me.
Speaker 8: And as I said, with that, then the next thing
Speaker 8: I know, I'm sitting straight up the next day in
Speaker 8: living room rubbing my arm with something protruding out of
Speaker 8: the top of my you know, my left upper arm,
Speaker 8: and I had very strange handprints around both my arms
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 2: Have they only had four digits on them.
Speaker 8: That's right, Yeah, they were. I didn't. I was in
Speaker 8: so much trauma when my eyes popped open because again
Speaker 8: I'm going through unbelievable hell, trying to adjust with what
Speaker 8: that memory was, Where's Chad, Where's Jacqueline? And I got
Speaker 8: something now in my upper arm. This is all happening
Speaker 8: at one time, you know, at the same time, so
Speaker 8: I didn't even realize I had these bruises on my arms.
Speaker 8: It wasn't until Chad woke up about an hour or
Speaker 8: so afterwards that as he walked around me, he saw
Speaker 8: these bruises and as he can.
Speaker 7: Describe, yeah, there were four digits, very long, and again
Speaker 7: when all the way around her up her arm, both.
Speaker 8: Arms, they looked like I had been hell or grabbed
Speaker 8: from the back, which is why I didn't see them,
Speaker 8: you know at first, because I was too busy dealing
Speaker 8: with the front of me.
Speaker 2: Okay, and now that you remembered without any hypnosis.
Speaker 8: Right right, yeah, I had when I went to have
Speaker 8: regression done that never happened. The regression never took place,
Speaker 8: but high strangeness beyond words took place. So something cleely
Speaker 8: was interfering with that, whether it be my own sight
Speaker 8: or what. But I had a very bizarre encounter, you know,
Speaker 8: of a nature that I clearly remembered that had nothing
Speaker 8: to do with regression because I tried very hard to
Speaker 8: be regressed and it wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 2: Huh okay. And what was Chad's experience.
Speaker 7: From that night, Well, you know, like Alta said, the
Speaker 7: last thing I remember is, I would say, eleven o'clock.
Speaker 7: My next memory in my regression. What comes out in
Speaker 7: my regression is we're standing on that street corner again.
Speaker 7: It's about eleven o'clock. I noticed this bright light coming
Speaker 7: from around the corner where we were standing, and I
Speaker 7: get the girl's attention, and we walk around this corner
Speaker 7: and I would say about halfway down the block. This
Speaker 7: orb of light in this orb was probably about twelve
Speaker 7: foot in diameter, probably about fifteen foot off the ground,
Speaker 7: and yeah, off the street. It was very bright, white, crisp,
Speaker 7: clean light, just I mean, just beautiful light. And all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, it just kind of comes at it
Speaker 7: and engulfs that brings us into it. My next memory is,
Speaker 7: I'm walking down this hallway hallway. It's kind of gently
Speaker 7: kind of turning to the right. I'm following this little bean.
Speaker 7: He's probably about three foot tall, big, kind of a
Speaker 7: pale gray skin tone, bulbous head, big bulbous head. He
Speaker 7: was wearing a kind of a skin tight one P jumpsuit. Ah,
Speaker 7: he had substance to him. He you know, he wasn't
Speaker 7: like the graves that you see on TV, the little
Speaker 7: skinny things. He had substance to him. He kind of waddled, wading,
Speaker 7: he walked. He was kind of dwarfish. To my to
Speaker 7: my left, I could see or preflely. I could see
Speaker 7: a tall blonde female walking beside me. Uh, this does
Speaker 7: describe our friend Jacqueline. But you know I didn't turn
Speaker 7: to see if it was. Uh. The walls were very uh,
Speaker 7: very smooth, uh you know, to the looking at him.
Speaker 7: You know, there weren't any bolts ortain, you know, rivets
Speaker 7: or anything like that. No scenes, you know, very very smooth.
Speaker 7: My next memory is I'm in this room.
Speaker 8: In this room.
Speaker 7: Seems infinite just it was very dark. I could not
Speaker 7: see any walls or anything. The only thing I really
Speaker 7: could see is off to my left again, where was
Speaker 7: this tall blonde female laying on an examining table. She
Speaker 7: was she was nude, but she was censored like they
Speaker 7: do on TV, you know, when they don't want you
Speaker 7: to see someone's face or body part or whatever. She
Speaker 7: was she was said from head to toe. You know,
Speaker 7: I couldn't tell who it was. I you know, I
Speaker 7: couldn't you know, see, I didn't see body parts or
Speaker 7: anything like that. There there were three beams around her,
Speaker 7: one on each side and one like like behind her head.
Speaker 7: They were very buggish or praying mantissy looking. They were
Speaker 7: about eight nine foot tall, you know, their mouths were
Speaker 7: down closer to their chin, their eyes big, you know,
Speaker 7: insect looking eyes. Their arms were kind of uh ah,
Speaker 7: you know, crooked or you know, like a praying mannas
Speaker 7: would be, you know, almost right.
Speaker 8: They were wearing.
Speaker 7: They were wearing these cloaks, these black cloaks, almost like
Speaker 7: you would see like a Jesuit priest or a grim
Speaker 7: reaper without the hood. You know. Uh. She never seemed
Speaker 7: to be in distress or pain or anything like that,
Speaker 7: almost like she was, you know, and you know, like
Speaker 7: how they said suspended animation or unconscious m I focused
Speaker 7: my attention back to my immediate I could see, you know,
Speaker 7: like around her, and I could see like around my
Speaker 7: immediate you, and everything else was just pitch black. H
Speaker 7: I focused my attention back to my immediate I'm sitting
Speaker 7: in his chair and it's almost like a dentist chair,
Speaker 7: but much more comfortable.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: I was never in tanning throughout my experience, never scared
Speaker 7: or you know, hurt or anything like that. I focused
Speaker 7: my attention back to my immediate And I'll look over
Speaker 7: to the right, on my right, and there's this little
Speaker 7: blue bee. And when I say blue, he's like this
Speaker 7: neon electric beautiful blue. He looks a lot like the
Speaker 7: grays that you see on TV. Big Bubba's head, almond
Speaker 7: shaped eyes. His aura, his presence was that of like
Speaker 7: a professor slash scientist, slash shaman, healer, all of this
Speaker 7: kind of vine. He goes over and he picks up
Speaker 7: this box and he has it in his right hand.
Speaker 7: He takes his left hand and puts it into the
Speaker 7: side of the box. And when he brings his hand
Speaker 7: out of the box, there's this substance free floating above
Speaker 7: his hand. It's probably maybe it's almost in a ball shape.
Speaker 7: It's about the size of maybe a quarter or a
Speaker 7: silver dollar. It's kind of it's kind of hard to
Speaker 7: tell because he was so smaller than me, though probably
Speaker 7: not the size of a quarter or So he sits
Speaker 7: the box down and he takes his right hand and
Speaker 7: now he's only got four digits on his hand. So
Speaker 7: he takes his hand and he's kind of got it
Speaker 7: two middle fingers up and then his two outer fingers
Speaker 7: kind of fold it in almost like you see what
Speaker 7: you know, like Buddhist priests or or you know, the saints,
Speaker 7: or you know Jesus, the pictures of Jesus when he's
Speaker 7: depicted in the art right, and this substance, now, this
Speaker 7: substance is it's blue. It's just like he is. It
Speaker 7: has little metal flakes or or sparkle things in it,
Speaker 7: and it's almost like that kind of that jelly flamy
Speaker 7: stuff that the kids that kids play with, you know,
Speaker 7: because it's because you can almost see from them, but
Speaker 7: not quiet, you know. And so he takes his hand
Speaker 7: and he does this, you know, peace kind of sign up.
Speaker 7: And when he does that, this substance starts spinning, and
Speaker 7: it's just getting faster and faster. And the faster it spins,
Speaker 7: this the blueness and the sparkly stuff kind of dissipate
Speaker 7: out of it and kind of free floating, rotating around it.
Speaker 7: It starts slowing down, and when it slowed down enough,
Speaker 7: it had turned into this double pointed crystal pyramid. Uh
Speaker 7: you know, uh, probably two three three inches long, not
Speaker 7: very bigger round uh it Uh. You know, I remember
Speaker 7: thinking to him, you know, why are you showing this
Speaker 7: to me? You know, I'm not a doctor. I'm not
Speaker 7: a scientist some money engineer. You know, this is this
Speaker 7: is you know, this is important. This is you know,
Speaker 7: people need to know this, you know. I mean you
Speaker 7: told me I would know in time or when it's time.
Speaker 7: My next memory, because I'm in this other room. There's
Speaker 7: only three walls. Two very straight, uh. The other one
Speaker 7: was kind of concaved again. The walls very smooth, you know,
Speaker 7: no rivets, no bolts, you know, very kind of a
Speaker 7: gunmetal gray, metallic gray. There's this overstuffed leather chair sitting
Speaker 7: in the middle of the table, in the middle of
Speaker 7: the room, and I remember thinking to myself you know,
Speaker 7: how out of place it is, and it looks comfortable,
Speaker 7: but it's not. So I focused my attention back to
Speaker 7: this wall that's kind of concaved, and I kind of
Speaker 7: walk a little closer to it, you know, I'm probably
Speaker 7: about five six foot away. And what I thought was
Speaker 7: this solid, metallic, you know wall was I could see
Speaker 7: through it like a like a window, and that you know,
Speaker 7: it's probably the wall is probably eight to ten foot
Speaker 7: you know, tall, it's probably fifteen foot long, and I
Speaker 7: could see through the whole the whole wall, you know,
Speaker 7: from from wall to wall, and I could see stars
Speaker 7: and planets, and it's like I'm out in the galaxy somewhere.
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there kind of in awe, and all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, right outside the wall, I mean, like maybe
Speaker 7: three or four foot away from whatever I'm in or
Speaker 7: whatever I'm on, is this little craft thing that goes
Speaker 7: speeds passed and it's not very big. It's probably three
Speaker 7: foot long, two foot wide, almost rugby ball or football shaped.
Speaker 7: It's about eight ten foot away, you know, pass me,
Speaker 7: and it stops and comes right back, and it's like
Speaker 7: right outside the wall, you know, and it's almost like
Speaker 7: saying you know, like it was a surprise to see
Speaker 7: me as I was it. You know, it has little
Speaker 7: lights on it. There's little wires kind of moving around
Speaker 7: and thing kind of metallic things kind of shifting around
Speaker 7: on it. Lights blinking, and I could feel intelligence coming
Speaker 7: out of it in you know, it's It's there for
Speaker 7: thirty forty seconds and then shoots off again. And that
Speaker 7: was the last memory. And my next memory is waking
Speaker 7: up in bed the next morning.
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Speaker 2: Now, did did Jacqueline also get hypnotized?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: No, okay, so she doesn't remember anything that happened to her.
Speaker 7: No, I'll kind of let out to tell what she
Speaker 7: does remember, okay, Jacqueline.
Speaker 8: Last, Jacqueline knows like Chad and I being on that
Speaker 8: street corner board to death, wanting to go home. And
Speaker 8: then the next thing Jacqueline knows, so again our guests
Speaker 8: women is around eleven. Somewhere between eleven and eleven thirty
Speaker 8: is our last the three of us collective memory. The
Speaker 8: next thing Jacqueline knows because I told you before in
Speaker 8: the beginning of sharing with you, she drove her car
Speaker 8: that morning and parked it up the street from our shop,
Speaker 8: so we're on the opposite end of the French Quarter
Speaker 8: from where her car was last known to be. The
Speaker 8: next thing Jacqueline knows is that somewhere between three and
Speaker 8: four in the morning, she has no memory of those
Speaker 8: four or five hours in between at all. It's completely erased.
Speaker 8: But the next thing she knows is she's now behind
Speaker 8: the steering wheel of her moving car. If we're moving slowly,
Speaker 8: Thank goodness, because it's again it doesn't seem like somebody's
Speaker 8: trying to hurt us. But anyhow, it's moving slowly, and
Speaker 8: it hit a parked car and knocked off her rear
Speaker 8: view mirror, which is what actually jolted her too. It's
Speaker 8: also in a whole nother section of the city from
Speaker 8: where she parked the car earlier that day. I'm talking
Speaker 8: miles away from where she parked it.
Speaker 5: That day, and it's.
Speaker 8: It's driving. Then she's now driving, you know, as she's
Speaker 8: come to into an area of the city that I
Speaker 8: knew she'd never want to be in at three four,
Speaker 8: five o'clock in the morning, not a particularly nice area
Speaker 8: of this, and she actually drives to see she ends
Speaker 8: up at a guy's house that she had broken up
Speaker 8: with that she'd only dated briefly. Shortly prior to us
Speaker 8: having this encountered experience. That night, she'd been seeing this
Speaker 8: young guy named Will, and I called him dark Boy
Speaker 8: because he was her opposite. As I said to you,
Speaker 8: she's very joyous and tall, slender, long blonde hair, happy soul,
Speaker 8: very pretty and Will, even as cute as he was,
Speaker 8: he was her opposite, long dark hair, and he had
Speaker 8: a darkness about him, so I always called him dark boy,
Speaker 8: and she'd only dated him very briefly. I will mention
Speaker 8: that I find most amazing about all of this in
Speaker 8: her case is that when she decided to not see
Speaker 8: this guy any longer, she invited him over to her house.
Speaker 8: It was daylight. She had the you know, the I
Speaker 8: like you butt kind of story going on on her
Speaker 8: front porch. She said that he's only just right in
Speaker 8: front of her face as she's basically breaking up with him.
Speaker 8: You know, I like you, but let's stay friends. She
Speaker 8: says that just within a couple inches of her face,
Speaker 8: he's becoming extremely emotional. And Jacqueline says, and I absolutely
Speaker 8: believe her, and we do have this in her own writing.
Speaker 8: She claims that he shaped shifted into a wolf. She said,
Speaker 8: the shock, and I can seal the shock if she
Speaker 8: relayed this to us, as I felt when I saw
Speaker 8: that first craft, when I had my head turned sideways
Speaker 8: immediately because I was not going to deal with what
Speaker 8: was right in front on my face. This is what
Speaker 8: she did. She turned her head instantly away, and then
Speaker 8: she said, I look back, and he must have shifted
Speaker 8: very quickly. In between. He shifted a second time, and
Speaker 8: she said, when he did it. The second time she
Speaker 8: called him on it, she said, she used the word
Speaker 8: you just turned into in a very loud, you know voice,
Speaker 8: you just turned into an effing wolf. And she says
Speaker 8: that the stock in his face told her she saw
Speaker 8: what she saw. She said he looked shocked and said,
Speaker 8: with a shocked voice, you saw that? Knowing you know,
Speaker 8: it confirmed to her she saw what she saw. Now
Speaker 8: this is the same guy that she ends up back
Speaker 8: at his house at you know, this ungodly time in
Speaker 8: the morning, somebody she never intended to ever see again.
Speaker 8: Is where this car is going. She says that when
Speaker 8: she gets there, as I said in the past, and
Speaker 8: trying to describe her version of this, she says that,
Speaker 8: you know, it's like a creepy movie. It's the perfect setting,
Speaker 8: you know, bad neighborhood of New Orleans, and it's whatever
Speaker 8: for so in the morning, and he lives in an
Speaker 8: old house I think that's been converted into apartments, and
Speaker 8: it normally has a locked, huge gate around it, gig
Speaker 8: iron gate. Well, of course, like an old bad movie,
Speaker 8: not this night or this morning, that gates wide open.
Speaker 8: She says. She parks the car, gets out of the car,
Speaker 8: goes up the steps, gets up on his porch, and
Speaker 8: she claims that he's sitting right inside the door. I guess,
Speaker 8: you know, either the doors wide open or a screen door,
Speaker 8: and he's sitting under a light playing guitar. She claims that,
Speaker 8: you know, she's very confused what she's doing there, and
Speaker 8: she says that he stops playing and looks up at
Speaker 8: her and says, either we've been waiting for you or
Speaker 8: I've been waiting for you. She claims that she then
Speaker 8: became a controlled hysteria, which is so interesting for Jacqueline
Speaker 8: because Chad and I never saw Jacqueline in any ever
Speaker 8: hysteria kind of personality. But she claims that she just
Speaker 8: started crying uncontrollably. She says that he led her into
Speaker 8: a room and laid her down, and she says that
Speaker 8: she cried herself to street. It had only been you know,
Speaker 8: a short time, because she said, she opens up her
Speaker 8: eyes and realizes where she's at. She's completely dressed, so
Speaker 8: it appears he hasn't tried anything or what have you,
Speaker 8: And she said, I got the f I got the
Speaker 8: f out of there and I didn't look back. Now,
Speaker 8: just to tie that up in a little bow for
Speaker 8: you a few years later, it was this happened to
Speaker 8: us in ninety seven. In the year two thousand, Chad
Speaker 8: and I had left New Orleans. We had a huge,
Speaker 8: you know, further adventure, if you will, back in the
Speaker 8: Southwest where we went to a whole lot happened to
Speaker 8: us there, and then by two thousand we returned to
Speaker 8: New Orleans. On this particular day, I'm walking through the quarter.
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful afternoon, lots of people on the streets,
Speaker 8: which is what's normal. I happened to see an old
Speaker 8: friend that I had not seen in a very long time,
Speaker 8: an artist friend, a guy friend, and you know, we
Speaker 8: get each other's attention. We go sit down at a
Speaker 8: little out door cafe and you know, got a drink
Speaker 8: and we were just going to play ketch up while
Speaker 8: we're visiting. This guy is originally from montak you know,
Speaker 8: transplanted to New Orleans, and so I always thought that
Speaker 8: had been interesting. Anyhow, he seemed as strange as strange
Speaker 8: could be, and you know, but we just chalked it
Speaker 8: up to him being an artist. He says, as we
Speaker 8: get to visiting a little bit and trying to play ketchup,
Speaker 8: and what's been going on in our lives. He then
Speaker 8: out of nowhere, I mean this came out of nowhere,
Speaker 8: like left field. He said, did you hear about Will?
Speaker 8: And I'm like, Will, You're talking about dark boy. It
Speaker 8: was like I was shocked he even knew him. I mean,
Speaker 8: this came out of nowhere, this conversation, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: how do you know? And I don't even remember how
Speaker 8: he responded, but what he said to me, I will
Speaker 8: never forget. He says. Yeah, he says, Will went around
Speaker 8: telling everybody he had to get out of New Orleans
Speaker 8: because the aliens were after him. I'm like, I mean
Speaker 8: my mouth was hanging open. It was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 8: where's the camera. This is like just a really bad movie.
Speaker 8: I mean right. So, you know that's Jacqueline's experience, and
Speaker 8: she has accepted it. She then went on in a
Speaker 8: very short time after her evening with us, of this
Speaker 8: high strange It was within literally just a couple of
Speaker 8: months of that she's pregnant and she now has this
Speaker 8: amazing sun who is now what eighteen, I guess or
Speaker 8: something of that nature. That you know, it's just this
Speaker 8: amazing child. And I've always thought there was so much
Speaker 8: more to that picture than met the eye. But she's
Speaker 8: gone on to create an amazing life for herself and
Speaker 8: her son. And you know, she went on to college
Speaker 8: after this encounter, this experience, and got her degree and
Speaker 8: environmental sciences. You know, she really is very earth based
Speaker 8: kind of human being, not somebody who went to the wall.
Speaker 2: Good. Did you ever find out anything about the implant
Speaker 2: in your arm?
Speaker 8: So I have tried with everything I can to get
Speaker 8: help and to find out whatever, and to no avail,
Speaker 8: I might add, and I still have it. I call
Speaker 8: them unknowns. I've never even used the language of implant
Speaker 8: because I have no memory of it being implanted. As
Speaker 8: I've often said, you know, for all I know, it
Speaker 8: was hatched with me. Maybe it came with the package,
Speaker 8: you know, I just don't know. I only know that
Speaker 8: it was standing out in my arm like a big lump,
Speaker 8: you know. The morning that I came to after that
Speaker 8: night of missing time. I will tell you though, that
Speaker 8: the first go round with X rays was mind blowing.
Speaker 8: I went to a medical doctor. Chad and I both
Speaker 8: a little small UFO group, a moofon group, arranged for
Speaker 8: this doctor to see me, knowing that you know, we'd
Speaker 8: had this experience, and there's a whole lot to that story,
Speaker 8: but the short version is that this unknown chose to
Speaker 8: not take an X ray the first two times. Now,
Speaker 8: there's no mistaking I've got a lump in my arm.
Speaker 8: You can feel it, you can see it. It does move,
Speaker 8: It will move and bury itself all the way down
Speaker 8: to the bone. But and I'll be the only one
Speaker 8: that'll know it's in there sometimes, but most of the time,
Speaker 8: it's just underneath the top layer of skin, and it
Speaker 8: appears to change shape. And as I said to you,
Speaker 8: the first two times of trying to get it x ray,
Speaker 8: it refused to take a picture. What would come out
Speaker 8: was a perfect skeletal picture of my arm and nothing there.
Speaker 8: Now the x ray tech was losing her mind because
Speaker 8: she knew she could see and touch this in my arm.
Speaker 8: And that's worthy of its own story in itself. So
Speaker 8: that's the first object in my upper arm. To this day,
Speaker 8: I've never been able to get any help, as hard
Speaker 8: as I have tried. I did have an opportunity to
Speaker 8: spend quite a bit of time on the phone. This
Speaker 8: gentleman gave me a lot of time, about an hour
Speaker 8: conversation which in this day and age, you know, is
Speaker 8: such a grace who happened to be on the team
Speaker 8: of doctor Roger Lear, you know, the only noted doctor
Speaker 8: if you will, involved in these what they call implants.
Speaker 8: This this gentleman has these objects as well in his body,
Speaker 8: and he also happens to be a chemist or a scientist.
Speaker 8: While he's speaking to me on the phone, he spoke
Speaker 8: a lot stranger than anything I've ever said. And I've
Speaker 8: always felt what I've said is founding just way too bizarre.
Speaker 8: You know, I can feel a lot of people rolling
Speaker 8: their eyes, but this gentleman shared a lot of information
Speaker 8: with me that had me rolling my eyes, and you
Speaker 8: know it was it just gets stranger and stranger. I've
Speaker 8: had another experience where I was taken out of bed
Speaker 8: a few years ago put in our backyard, and I
Speaker 8: have full memory of that account. And at the very
Speaker 8: end of that encounter, my wrist, the same arm, the
Speaker 8: left arm, my wrist exploded in light. It was absolutely
Speaker 8: beautiful and terrifying to watch a light bulb go off
Speaker 8: in my wrist at the end of that runner. And
Speaker 8: the next morning I told Chad, I said, I have
Speaker 8: another object in my wrist now this one in my
Speaker 8: wrist won't X ray at all, but it has been
Speaker 8: detected with an ultrasound machine. So you know, this is
Speaker 8: more questions ever than any answers.
Speaker 2: Now, if I'm not mistaken, you've had a lot more
Speaker 2: experiences beyond this, haven't you.
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, because we're starting to run a little
Speaker 2: low on time, that maybe we can have you back
Speaker 2: to talk about the rest of your experiences, because I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure they'll fill another show.
Speaker 8: That would be amazing. We're very great, that would be amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's do that. Let's let's end that
Speaker 2: one here with those initial experiences, and we'll have you
Speaker 2: back in a month or so and we can get
Speaker 2: into all the strange experiences you've had since then, which
Speaker 2: includes a black eyed adult and uh some other really
Speaker 2: like a sasquatch like creature you said, a lizard, monkeys,
Speaker 2: and some other really weird stuff. Absolutely all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: So let's let's end that one here, and I thank
Speaker 2: you for telling your story to everyone. And where can
Speaker 2: people find you online?
Speaker 7: Well, they can find us. I'm on Facebook. It's Chad Dillard,
Speaker 7: and you can find outa has a website it's www
Speaker 7: dot Readings without the dot com, and then you can
Speaker 7: find us on the Unique Rabbit charls and gifts and
Speaker 7: Unique is spelled capital U dash in e e k
Speaker 7: in that's Unique Grabbit dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay and on. Those will also be linked up in
Speaker 2: the show archive for anyone who wants them as well
Speaker 2: some of the pictures you sent along and we will
Speaker 2: have you back in about a month and we will
Speaker 2: continue this story.
Speaker 8: We're very grateful and we thank you so much for this.
Speaker 7: Yes, thank you for your time. We enjoy sharing our experiences.
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