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alien stuff, the alien stuff, and I just realized, like, Okay,

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here we are, you know, twenty twenty six, in the

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middle of a soft disclosure going on right now. And

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if in fact we are in the fig Tree generation,

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if in fact we are in this moment of time

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where things are starting to shake, rattle and roll, then

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perhaps that is a more timely book that needs to

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be out there, because I do believe that aliens, in

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some way, shape or form, are going to play into

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the Great Deception in the end times. I do believe

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that there is a spiritual aspect to this that is

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being played. Why Why are all these green men from

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you know, billions of light years away in different galaxies.

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Why is one of their main objectives about talking about

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Jesus and that he was just a prophet? Why it

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makes no sense? You know. So I started going down

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that rabbit hole of researching, and man, I came up

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with twenty six different and listen, I'm sure there's more

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twenty six different ideas of like, okay, what are aliens? Okay?

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And this takes everything from you know, interstellar, interdimensional. They've

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been here all long time, travelers from the future, the government,

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black projects. There's twenty six of these things. I came

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dare you? I'll guests only show do not reflect the

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opinions of the host. The purpose of the show is

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to have interesting conversations, stretch.

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Speaker 3: Our minds and grow not what we want.

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Speaker 2: If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and

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listener discretion us ablaged.

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don't fear the questions. They fear the fun.

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does the fear of the dark and only the shows.

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is uh? You hold out that glass man because we

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are about to feel it up. Welcome to the promote

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like to use the allegory of the Prometheus lens. Take

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That would be much much appreciated. Well, guys, man, I

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got a great show for you lined up. This is

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a guy that I've kind of been following him with

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my notepad and seeing what he's been up to. Man,

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and he's been killing it. He's got a great show.

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If you follow this show, you'll probably follow his show.

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I'm talking today with Ryan Pelton from The Ryan Files.

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He was good enough to have me on his show

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a while back, so I reached out to him and

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asked if he'd be willing to come on my show,

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and he was like, Yeah, I'm actually working on a

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new project, so I'd love to come talk about it.

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first time, hopefully the first of me, mister Ryan Pelton

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from the Ryan Files. How are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? How you doing doing great?

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introduce yourself to the listeners. You know who you are,

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what you do, tell us a little bit about your show,

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just kind of give everybody a feel for who you

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kind of shy and introverted. But about thirty years ago,

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my mother dared me to enter an Elvis Presley contest.

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got video of me singing on you know, local television

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after winning this contest, looking at my hand because I

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that was, and it really immediately, just like that, launched

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a thirty year career that has opened so many doors.

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father and Ashley Judd playing my mother, and just so

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many other things along the way that, you know, it's

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first episode I listened to was with Timothy Alberino talking

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about his book Birthright, and I said, wow, that's really interesting.

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kind of started taking a deep dive into the Bible.

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Genesis six opened my eyes to so many different things

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that all of a sudden everything made sense. And whenever

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that's whenever your life starts changing. So and you know,

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long story short, I just felt a calling, had no

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idea what I was going to do and what not

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to start a podcast. It ended up being The Ryan Files,

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and I admitted from day one, man, this is just

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a journey podcast. I didn't know where it was going

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to go. And I mean early on we have episodes

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about golfing and you name it. But it's definitely gone

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the direction that I think it was supposed to go.

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wacky things that connect to the Bible. And you know,

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truth is scarce these days, and if we can just

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shine a light on it, maybe make people think. I

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think that's an important thing, especially in this day and

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age we live in, which I believe we're in the

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fig Tree generation and so you know, getting your armor

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up and understanding what's really going on the world matters.

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without all the great success in music and film, but

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like how you got exposed to blurry creatures and it

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kind of just lit a fire underneath you man, that's

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what happened with me. But it was with like Trace

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human women and making a hybrid race, and aliens and

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giants and all this kind of stuff, man, it did it.

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then next thing, you know, it's like, you know, I

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discovered podcasting. I was like, okay, And then I found

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blurry creatures. I was like, okay, I can actually search

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these guys up and have conversations with them and asked

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them my questions. Hell yeah, sign me up.

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what to do here. Just open the doors, you know.

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even whenever I wasn't necessarily living the way I needed

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to or should have. He's always opened these doors and

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Timothy Alborino was there, and I just said, you know what,

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hung out with the Blurry Creatures guys and Timothy Alberino

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for a week and we checked out all the megalithic

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to do it, but yeah, I'm supposed to do this.

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know you're where you're supposed to be.

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wild books and you could trade in your old ones,

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you know what I mean, and kind of do like

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year and just stock up, you know, on reading material,

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and you get good conversation material, good podcasting material from it.

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that I went. It was right before they closed, and

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I'm like, dude, that's right up my alley, and I

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don't find much esauce stuff. But in there he was

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talking about that about you know, how we're commanded to

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be a light, you know in the darkness, that bright

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shining city on the hill. But he had said that

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the word tav, you know, which is you know, a

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mark or you know the original like paleo pictograph with

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font it was like a cross, but it was just

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kind of tilted a little bit. But he said that

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that and its original meaning means to be, uh, where

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you're supposed to be. It means like, you know, that's

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the mark. So being where you're supposed to be, you know,

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like everything's falling into place, You're feeling God's purpose for you. Uh,

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that would be a cool like T shirt or bumper

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stick or you know, I'm Tav, you know, like and

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stuff say I'm good, bro, No, I'm taugh. I'm right

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where I need to be.

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Speaker 1: Right absolutely, And you know, it's so funny. We have

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so many distractions, Doc. Life is full of distractions, and

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you can find whatever distraction you know, creates that dopamine

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in you, you can find it. It could be doom

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scrolling on X or it could be you know, having

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seven hundred streaming services and watching whatever you want to

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on demand. We have it, and those distractions I think

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are part of the plan of the enemy. But it's

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easy not to be able to focus on the things

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that you're supposed to be focusing on, you know. But

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when you do, man, you feel it, You feel it

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in your gut and it feels right. You feel like

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you're in communion with God. And you know, sometimes that

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means stepping away from the digital side of things. There's

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been nothing more rewarding than actually taking like you did

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back in the day in school and writing out and

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outline and note cards and stuff like that. When I'm

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writing this book. So it's been a fascinating journey all

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because it feels like you're doing something right. You're you're

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on you by the Holy Spirit that this is like wow, okay,

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this is cool.

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people call me negative Nancy or whatever. I'm like, no,

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I'm Reggie the realist. Okay, uh, I'm and I'm Murphy's Live.

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I'm just I'm like that. So now uh I found

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myself that I'm now tav You know, I had this

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realization moment about a week ago maybe uh you know,

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me and my girlfriend, you know, through work, made like

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a little business vaca out of it. So we went

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west and done some podcast recordings and done some hiking

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and stuff, and I'm like, man, this is a beautiful place. Uh.

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I was just you know, surviving. But now I'm you know, thry.

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or cancer or something. You're letting me you have all

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these things that I just love to do and getting

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to live out my best life because I only got

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a few months to live. Please God know that's my

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dark humor.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some positivity here.

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Speaker 1: I need that.

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to bring you on because that's the whole reason we're

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here today is to talk about this new project that

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you're working on. You'd briefly mentioned it that you had

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found yourself, you know, writing notes and making some plans

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and outlines for this book. Have you come up with

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a working title yet? What is the name of this book?

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What are we What roads are you going to take

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us on for this adventure?

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Speaker 1: Ryan boy? This has been a This is the typical

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kind of journey that if you were to watch it

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from the outside looking in, you'd be like, this dude

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has no idea what he's doing. And you know what,

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I love it. I love not having all the answers.

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answers to the questions. So this kind of started out

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fascinated with history, fascinated with UFOs all my life, fascinated

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with so many things. I remember. I remember sitting in church,

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and you're like ten years old, and you're getting one

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of these sermons about revelation, you know, and the end

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times and the mark of the Beast and everything else.

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bed and you're like, oh my god, he's coming back tonight,

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and you're having nightmares and you're scared and all this stuff.

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what if what if aliens were part of this in

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times stuff? You know, I mean ten years old, And

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of course you know when I'm fifty threes or fifty

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three years old. So if you think that forty three

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years ago, you can't just go around willy nilly talking

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about aliens. Just it's not the thing to do. So

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and more about it. Obviously, was a huge Star Trek

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fan anything science fiction had anything to do with the aliens.

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bottom line is that moment at ten years old kind

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of just grew throughout my life and here we here

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I am, you know, fifty three. I set out to

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write a book about, you know, at a cult involvement

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in the government after World War Two. That was what

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I originally wanted to write a book about because it's fascinating.

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There's so much wild information out there about that. But

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in doing that and then researching it and whatnot, I

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kept on coming up with the alien stuff, the alien stuff,

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the alien stuff, and I just realized, like, okay, here

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we are, you know, twenty twenty six, in the middle

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of a soft disclosure going on right now. And if

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in fact we are in the fig Tree generation, if

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in fact we are in this moment of time where

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things are starting to shake, rattle and roll, then perhaps

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that is a more timely book that needs to be

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out there, because I do believe that aliens, in some way,

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shape or form, are going to play into the Great

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is a spiritual aspect to this that is being played.

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Why Why are all these green men from you know,

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billions of light years away in different galaxies. Why is

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one of their main objective about talking about Jesus and

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that he was just a prophet. Why it makes no sense,

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you know. So I started going down that rabbit hole

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of researching, and man, I came up with twenty six

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different and listen, I'm sure there's more twenty six different

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ideas of like okay, what are aliens? Okay? And this

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takes everything from you know, interstellar, interdimensional. They've been here

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all long time travelers from the future, the government black projects.

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There are twenty six of these things I came up with,

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and this is only for part one of the book,

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and I'll explain exactly what I'm talking about. So you

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have these twenty six categories of what aliens could possibly be,

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and then I put together a twelve point test and

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I'll just read them off real quick. I'm not going

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to bore you with them. But the origin test, you know, like,

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where do they originally come from? The body test? Are

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these beings physical, logical, spiritual, synthetic, hybrids, avatars, containers? The

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craft test? What are the craft? Who built them, how

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they operate? The abduction test, which is very important, how

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does the theory explain the contact these abductees, missing time, paralysis,

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repeated encounters not just through families but bloodlines. The messaging test,

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what do they say and what worldview are they pushing?

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Very important? The motive test, what do they want? You know,

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what do they want from humanity? The historical test does

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the theology or I'm sorry, does the theory explain ancient

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God's angels, demons, phae jin modern aliens is a continuous pattern?

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Number eight? The deception test does the theory explain the contradictions,

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trickster behavior, false predictions, screen memories. The genetics test does

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it explain hybridization, reproductive themes, bloodlines, containers? The evidence test

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what physical, testimonial, governmental, spiritual, historical evidence should exist? The

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theology tests how does it handle genesis, Christ, angels, demons,

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creation and the image of God? And finally the disclosure test.

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Why would governments hide it? Why are they releasing it slowly?

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Why have they ridiculed it in the past, and why

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have they weaponized the narrative? So taking those and I

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mean it really sounds technical. It's not so technical whenever

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you break it down. And my goal was to make

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this readable, make it fun even though we're talking about

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you know, like I said, I'm a nerd. I would

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happily sit down and write the nerdiest book about this,

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and it's all facts and whatnot. But along the way

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I realized, you know what, I have an interesting life

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and a lot of experiences, and so I throw a

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lot of that in there as well. I don't want

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it to be preachy. I don't want it to come

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off as I know everything, because guess what, I don't.

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And it's kind of a journey. It's kind of my

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journey figuring it all out what I what I believe

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in this book. So that's basically the premise of the

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first half of the book, kind of just of you know,

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nailing down, okay, what is everything? And then the second

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half we take it into a more focused examination of

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it's probably not this, it's probably not this, it's probably

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not this, but it certainly leans towards this, this, and this.

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And if it leans towards this, this, and this, what

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does that mean for humanity? For you as a human being,

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your life, the value of your life, the value of

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your soul. So some of these things, you know, we

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get into. But you know, Doc, I got to be

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honest with you, the book is not written for Christians.

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I mentioned, you know, I think that there's there's going

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to be it seems a problem with the Church when

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it comes to this, because a lot of people just

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haven't been taught that there's a framework in the Church

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that allows for this. There's a framework in the Bible

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that allows for aliens if you will, and I'm not

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saying aliens from another planet and all that stuff, but

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there's a framework if you believe in the Bible if

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you understand Genesis six, if you understand things that have

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happened in the Bible, there's definitely a framework there that

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has not been taught by the Church. And so I

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wanted it to be able to reach out to Christians

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who believe in aliens but maybe want to understand it better.

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But for Christians who don't believe in aliens and maybe

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need some understanding that, hey, this fits Moreover, why in

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the world would you write a book about this stuff

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and not want to reach out to people who are

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not Christians. Reach out to an atheist, agnostic, you know,

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a guy who's just a scientist and sees things through

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that lens. So I deal a lot with the lenses

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through which people see life and try to not ostracize

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one or the other, try to be open because I

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have a very scientific mind myself, and many years of

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me researching this has been just through a scientific lens.

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But when you bring in the theological lens into it, man,

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there's so much stuff that just clicks and makes sense.

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So it's an honest discussion. I'm sure that there's going

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to be haters, because always I'm throwing out I'm throwing

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out twenty six ideas of which many people will only

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believe these ones, and many people will only believe these ones,

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and then immediately you have a debate. But I'm trying

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not to make it that. I'm trying to make it like, Okay,

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let's just logically talk it through this and this is

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the way I see it. Tell me what you think.

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So I'm really excited about the project. And just if

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nothing else, challenge yourself to look at something through a

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different lens, maybe an understand it. There's a framework out

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there in the Bible that can handle all of this

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no problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and like I had this clip. Actually I

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will pull this up because I want you to see it.

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I want to get your reaction from it too. What

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do I do with it?

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 3: Behind this window. It's always behind something hide and it's

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like where is this thing?

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Speaker 1: If you're like me, you put stuff, You hide stuff

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in certain places so you'll remember where you put it. Yeah,

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and obviously you end up forgetting where you hit it.

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And yeah, it's funny. I do that with money. Oh yeah,

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I carry a lot of cash. I don't carry a

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lot of cash, but when I have cash, i'd like

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put it someplace to hide. It and years later I'll

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you know, open a door and or open a book

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or something and it'll be like five hundred dollars in there.

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So I don't know what that weird.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, while I'm searching for this, let me ask

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you this. Pick your brain. You said you found twenty

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six different ones, so it's different. You know how people's

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going with the four there's the four races, you know,

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But one thing that stood out to me was that

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number twenty six.

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Speaker 1: That is the.

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Speaker 3: Jematria value of the name of God. So numerically God's

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number is twenty six, So I thought that was pretty cool.

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And just looking through them, which one was I'm sure

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there were some that you had never heard before to

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kind of done this research. What are some of the

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races that you had found that are just like totally

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different from the mainstream narrative that you don't think the

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folks at home have heard about or you know, are seen.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's so much man and there's so much science

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behind it too. To explain some of this stuff. You know,

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we can talk about extraterrestrials from other planets. Okay, great,

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And that's kind of like the thing that has been

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ingrained in people through pop culture and movies and whatnot.

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You know, aliens are from other planets and they're just

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an advanced race of you know, humanoid looking like beingst

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bipedal and so on and so forth, just because that

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might just be the natural selection lends itself to beings

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having two arms and two legs whatever. But you know,

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there's there's some logic that goes into ideas like maybe

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extraterrestrial but not maybe more like AI machines, like a

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von Neumann probe. It's basically, you know, a probe with

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a three D printer on it that can travel through

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the universe and get resources and make new you know,

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new probes to send out. That's you know, there's there's

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ideas like that, but you know, you get into interdimensional beings,

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no doubt about it, spiritual beings, fallen angels, stuff like that.

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You know, And I separate this out too, because it's

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very important to separated out. You hear JD. Van saying,

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I've leave aliens or demons. Well, a demon is a

474
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different thing than a fallen angel, so we we definitely

475
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uh break that category down. You know, we talk about

476
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the Watchers in Genesis six We talk about an advanced

477
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Earth civilization coming back in time, breakaway civilizations who have

478
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a more technology, time travelers, altraterrestrials, crypto terrestrials, you know,

479
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things that are from withinside the Earth, biological avatars or containers,

480
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government black projects, psychological operation by the government, natural phenomenon.

481
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We talk about, you know, uh, human hybrid alien theories.

482
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We talk about the gods re branded. We talk about

483
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:53,079
holograms and the gen and remember the elves and the

484
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trolls and all that stuff from medieval literature, the fairy folk,

485
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foreign adversaries, biological experiments, simulation entities. So there's there's a

486
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lot that goes into it. But I think at the

487
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end of the day, you're going to come up with

488
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like a category mixed bag, if you will, where there's

489
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,119
a little bit of truth from two or three or

490
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,880
four of these mean categories that come into play, and

491
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what does that look like. Well that's the second half

492
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of the book. Nice Okay. I found it.

493
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Speaker 3: I had to pull it up on my YouTube channel.

494
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:36,039
I was trying to find the raw video. But Timothy Alberino,

495
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while I was out west, did a talk with lou

496
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Arizondo and I got some footage of that, and there

497
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was one part where there was a woman there that

498
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had been drinking and she even said, you know, I'm

499
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a Christian. She said, No, I'm not some holy roly

500
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she said, I mean, I'm I've had some drinks tonight,

501
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you know, she said. But and she combated him come

502
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at am with with some hard stuff and kind of

503
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you know, hickled him a little bit. But uh, I

504
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know Timothy is a mutual friend of ours. And you

505
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had mentioned that comment that the Christians that are not

506
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prepared for this, it's because they've just not been taught,

507
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you know, because our Bible has a great framework for it.

508
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And I think Timothy is, in my opinion, that the

509
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best person framing that in a biblical lens. But I

510
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wanted to show you this clip to kind of get

511
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your reaction.

512
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Speaker 1: Uh, Mom, really is the reality?

513
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Speaker 8: The UFO reality does no violence to my favorite.

514
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Speaker 9: But you're a Christian man and your purpose as a

515
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Christian man that has spread the good news of.

516
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:46,799
Speaker 1: The Gospel and.

517
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Speaker 4: Talking to a let's let's.

518
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Speaker 10: Talk about the.

519
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 9: You know, I'm just daking.

520
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Speaker 10: Let me see if I can, if I can interject

521
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her for a second.

522
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Speaker 1: So I understand your respect.

523
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:23,079
Speaker 5: Hello, everybody their mom really is.

524
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Speaker 1: Your name? My name is Chrissa, Chrissa, thank you for calling.

525
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This is really.

526
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Speaker 9: Scared me up here.

527
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Speaker 1: My goodness, I heard.

528
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Speaker 9: But my question is just basically, as a follow of Christ,

529
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I'm not a perfect person.

530
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Speaker 1: I need lots of us Master tonight.

531
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Speaker 9: So not it's not a simplest person, but I just

532
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,920
want to ask. It's just Jesus wasn't mentioned one time

533
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in all of this mystery.

534
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Speaker 2: Of the universe that he was several times Jesus.

535
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Speaker 7: So there's nothing we have to you have to it's

536
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,799
direct questions.

537
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Speaker 1: Is something specific?

538
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Speaker 7: Example, if you're asking, can you formulate a biblical paradigm

539
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in which extraterrestrials can be comfortably accommodated, then the answers

540
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is it's quite easy.

541
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Speaker 9: God is everything, so there's no comfortable accommodation when God

542
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is involved.

543
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Speaker 8: Well, as I was saying before, in the Biblical narrative

544
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introduces Us unapologetically to eraseivies who pre exists us, who

545
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are non human and who are not from the unit.

546
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Speaker 7: So that's those are extraterrestrials. Now you can say that

547
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they are by definition, Yeah, you can say they're in

548
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an dimensional or they're spiritual or whatever.

549
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Speaker 8: But it's just semantics at that point because it's it's

550
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the indisputable fact is that they're not from Europe.

551
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Speaker 3: It exists, and you kind of know his framework. So

552
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I'll skip past. But there's a couple of times you know,

553
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,319
she was talking over and as you see in the

554
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,359
first of it, but lou believe it or not, said

555
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,920
something that I thought was profound.

556
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Speaker 1: Honestly, uh.

557
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Speaker 10: Stake alive until he recanted. Burned Galileo centric model had

558
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said that the sun with alt.

559
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Speaker 1: Around Earth right because he and the almost.

560
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Speaker 10: Burnt Galileo at the stake alive until he recanted.

561
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Speaker 1: The bottom line is he was right. Now.

562
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Speaker 10: The reality is Galileo never challenged God. What he challenged

563
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was mankind's notion at the time of God. It was

564
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man who goes wrong, not God right. And it was

565
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our correct understanding at the time that was inaccurate. It

566
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is it is the ego of human kind that we

567
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are the ultimate in God's Christ. You knows considered herotical

568
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at one point to put limitations.

569
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Speaker 1: On the dominion of the idea of God.

570
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Speaker 10: It was theretical meaning God there is a God has

571
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the ability of power to do whatever God wants as

572
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a matter of what we want matters what He decides.

573
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Speaker 1: Right, And so.

574
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Speaker 10: I think, just like here are there's animals that we're

575
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discovering all the time, an insects, bugs, fish, whatever. That

576
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doesn't go against religion, right?

577
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Speaker 1: Well, what if it turns out we find animals on

578
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the moon? Does that go against God? Might go against

579
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our cart understanding of religion?

580
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Speaker 10: You know?

581
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Speaker 1: Sure?

582
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Speaker 7: So anyways, understood.

583
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Speaker 1: Very good question.

584
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Speaker 3: Anyways understood Jesus, because we didn't really go to the moon,

585
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did we. But that unfolded in front of me that

586
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week in there and when you had mentioned the framework

587
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being biblical but most Christians are not aware to it,

588
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that popped in my head. I wanted to let you

589
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see that and pick your brain, get your thoughts.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Lou Alessando and and Timothy So Lou

591
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,559
Alexondo kind of came into my mind early on, early

592
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on in the disclosure stuff where you know, the tic

593
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tac and stuff videos. He was, you know, part of

594
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getting that out. And I saw an interview with him.

595
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I forget even where, but he was talking about, you know,

596
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a very high senior official in the Pentagon coming up

597
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to him and saying, Lou, you know, we we got

598
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to not be messing with this stuff. And he's like,

599
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well why because because they're they're they're they're evil, they're

600
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not good. He goes, well, what do you mean, sir,

601
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,039
h And Lou Alessandro is calling this guy sir, and

602
00:34:55,079 --> 00:35:00,920
he's like, they're they're they're evil, They're they're demons following angels.

603
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And the guy is telling Lou Alizondo that and he

604
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,599
comes out and admits that. But then you see, like

605
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the film that the documentary film where he was in

606
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it and he was the first thing out of the gate.

607
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He's like, well, people want to say this stuff's interdimensional

608
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and whatnot, and you know, and he kind of downplays it.

609
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And then I went and saw him talk a couple

610
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,360
of years ago live Man. I was raising my hands

611
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,079
so bad because I wanted to ask the question. And

612
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:31,800
he literally said during this presentation that people are just

613
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,320
asking the wrong questions. I would love to tell you

614
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,519
what I know, but I can't because you're not asking

615
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,199
the right questions. And I was going to ask a

616
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,679
question about the dimensional stuff, be it spiritual dimensional aliens,

617
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:47,480
fallen angels, demons, whatever. Didn't get a chance to ask

618
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,679
the question. But it is funny because he has skirted

619
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,519
around this issue time and time again. How ironic is

620
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,719
it that just went and saw this? I know you

621
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,159
did as Welly, How ironic is it that you know

622
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,480
in this in this film about disclosure of aliens that

623
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,559
one of the main themes in the film is about

624
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:15,119
God and how we can allow for aliens to be real.

625
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,079
But also it's okay because God allows for two because

626
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,280
and they kind of danced around it, they kind of

627
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,159
it was kind of tricky what they did with the

628
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,559
verse from Genesis three. You know, God gave me a

629
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,079
dominion on Earth. You know, that's what the sister says,

630
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,119
sister superior or whatever on Earth, leaving the door open

631
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:44,039
to mean that there are superior beings elsewhere in the universe,

632
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:46,760
which I always thought is funny. One of the things

633
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,559
I came I've come to believe very strongly is that

634
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:54,039
in John one three he states all things were made

635
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,320
through him, and without him nothing was made that was

636
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,360
that has been made. So we're not talking about Earth,

637
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,239
we're talking about everything. Nothing that was made was made

638
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,320
by him, And so you really have to wrap your

639
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,760
head around that to understand. Okay, if aliens are coming

640
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,079
from other planets or whatnot, they're not a separate part.

641
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And I think that's where Christianity kind of gets sideways

642
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,800
because they're like, oh my gosh, they automatically assume that

643
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,559
these are supreme beings on the level of God. But

644
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
John one three clearly states that there's nothing out there

645
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
that was made that He didn't make. Anything that could

646
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,679
be made he made. So if he if he made

647
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these aliens, okay, fine, there's still subject to him as

648
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,599
a creator. And moreover, if we are talking about you know,

649
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,400
aliens being you know, fallen angels or or you know,

650
00:37:54,679 --> 00:38:00,159
spirits of the dead, Nephelene demons, guess what God made them? Too? Know,

651
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,599
he didn't. He didn't necessarily make nepheline, so to speak,

652
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but he made the ingredients. And so here we are questioning,

653
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you know, whether or not aliens have a right to

654
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,320
be uh to come in and and straighten us out

655
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,639
on our theology. When you don't, you're not wrapping your

656
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,280
head around the fact that, no, they're still subordinate to

657
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God the creator. And so it is fascinating and what

658
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,960
she said is absolutely truth and in a drunken sort

659
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:38,440
of you know, Karen sort of way. But at some

660
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,920
point we do have to, uh, we do have to

661
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,440
circle it always back to the Gospel, because that's that's

662
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,880
really what this is all about. However, if you can

663
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,079
get someone to start thinking about the Gospel by challenging

664
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,880
paradigms based upon something that's going to be in your

665
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,199
face a ka the whole alien thing, and I think

666
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,800
it's a it's a good conversation to have.

667
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I agree. Uh. And one of

668
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,280
the things too, like with Tim how he talked about

669
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,519
in his book Birthright, the the Elder Brother, you know that,

670
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and how Job says, you know, they were clearly but

671
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here before us they saw creation, and how it's always

672
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a physicality to these beings. You know, they eat, they drink,

673
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440
they sleep, you know, and always they're the close enough

674
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,920
to us that they can reproduce.

675
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Speaker 7: Uh.

676
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Speaker 3: That it aligns a lot with what people are calling

677
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the Nordic race. So could it be that you know,

678
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,400
these fallen beings are coming back again, like Solomon says,

679
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,400
nothing new under the Sun's Genesis six all over again.

680
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But with this now, this new age, you know gnostic

681
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understanding of you know, no, they're the saviers, They're the

682
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ones going to be coming and saving us from then

683
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sectasoids and all those kind of they live creatures that

684
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walk among us apparently.

685
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of remarkable. Again, it's isn't it

686
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fascinating how this conversation about aliens always leads to something theological.

687
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And I mean I think there's a natural progression there, Okay,

688
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because if you're if your mind can wrap itself around

689
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the fact that there's other intelligent life forms out there,

690
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then the next obvious questions are like, well, where did

691
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we come from? You know what, what's life about? What's

692
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the purpose? And if there's higher beings other places, then

693
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you know, are we subject to them? And people will

694
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happily go down that road, but they will not take

695
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:59,360
the moment to say, wait, God, is you know the

696
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920
exact same thing that you're talking about, But you're not

697
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,760
going to take that serious or feel like you may

698
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:09,800
may have a responsibility to be subject to that. So

699
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,639
it's a fascinating thing. Why this comes up again and

700
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,760
again and again in the Alien Lord. Why is it

701
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,760
that you can call on the name of Jesus during

702
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,639
an abduction and they'll flee. Why is that? What do

703
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,880
aliens care about Jesus Christ? If they are separate in

704
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,400
a part and not under the thumb the rule of God?

705
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What is that? So these are all questions that are

706
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,280
very important to talk about because once you do, I mean,

707
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,599
it gets dirty real quick, you know. And ultimately, at

708
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,599
the end of it, there is the answer, and the

709
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:51,000
answer is salvation because when you realize that everything that

710
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:56,719
was ever made is subject to God, including the angels,

711
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,639
the fallen angels, everything, And if you just read your Bible,

712
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,440
you'll understand that's exactly what the story is telling and

713
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,719
why it comes to fruition in revelation. And as you

714
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,239
step back and you look at where we're at today,

715
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,719
guess what we're in it. So I just I think

716
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,320
it's a positive message. I think it's something positive to

717
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,559
talk about because in the end, the Gospel is there.

718
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,480
So that particular lady, I understand exactly what she's saying,

719
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,480
but she's also kind of talking out about both sides

720
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,280
of her mouth a little bit, and in a very

721
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:41,159
Karen sort of way. But it is ultimately about the Gospel.

722
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,639
So and I feel like this is an opportunity, if

723
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:49,440
nothing else, to talk to people about this stuff on

724
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,119
this level, whereas might not have been able to do

725
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:54,079
it before. I mean, I can talk to a lot

726
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,880
of friends that I've had over the years that are

727
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,360
not Christians, but we can talk about Aliens.

728
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,199
Speaker 3: So I was going to say, this is the most

729
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,920
ripe and fertal soil for the Gospel of Christ, and

730
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,719
I'll get in. I want to get into that with

731
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,639
you in just a moment, Ryan, but I'm want to

732
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:13,760
take a quick break to get a word in from

733
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,800
our sponsors and then we can get right back into this.

734
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,800
We'll be right back.

735
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 6: Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most

736
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,719
people never think about what they're carrying. We do because

737
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,599
preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway.

738
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,880
Comfort isn't a luxury. It's what keeps you moving when

739
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,920
the day goes longer than planned. That's why every Squatch

740
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741
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packs for people who don't assume the day will stay easy.

742
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743
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down when you're done. Squatch Survival gear ready for the

744
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next one.

745
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: And that's something too that I was talking with some

746
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,960
buddies and stuff even about that, you know, not just

747
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,119
that particular video clip, but just in general. I see

748
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:15,760
it in the comment sections of the videos on YouTube.

749
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:18,920
I mean, you see it everywhere. But you have some

750
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,360
people that I think are well meaning, but they kind

751
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,000
of come off as Karen's you know, or Terry sometimes,

752
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,599
you know, beating the Bible over people's heads and kind

753
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:31,800
of coming over the top of them, you know, instead

754
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,920
of you know, coming underneath or even like with me,

755
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,519
I get a lot of shit sometimes for talking to

756
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,280
people that are not Christians. They're not gnsty, you know,

757
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,159
they're gnostics or this or that and the other. But

758
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,039
I'm like, we got to have that dialogue and have

759
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:48,400
that friendship and develop that relationship so we can sew

760
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,559
seeds if we truly are Christians and care about, you know,

761
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,480
the souls of other people. But yes, this is something

762
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,679
that you could easily come in as a casual conversation

763
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,480
and show them the Gospel of Christ.

764
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,679
Speaker 1: Right and you know, our our commission isn't to you know,

765
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,920
hold people at gunpoint and say, accept the Lord Jesus

766
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Christ as your savior or else. You know, our job

767
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,440
is just to spread the word. Plant a seed. We

768
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,599
don't save people, you know, we don't save people. We

769
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,800
can talk about it, we can spread the good news.

770
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,679
We can, you know, plant the seeds, like I said,

771
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:32,039
But we are not the one saving people. You know,

772
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:36,079
only Jesus is saving people. The Holy Spirit is working,

773
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,800
you know. And uh, I mean think about that gift

774
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,199
that we have and all you got to do is

775
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,880
accept it now. But like I said, you can't. You

776
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,320
can't hold a gun to people's head and say, you know,

777
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,719
repent and be saved. That's not the way it works.

778
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,599
And so you know, we're told to be loving, to

779
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:01,400
do this out of love. What greater love is there

780
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,639
than like telling people, hey, I got I got the

781
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:07,679
magic ticket, you know, and I want you to have

782
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,719
it too, and you can it's free. And so how

783
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,679
do you how do you do that? Well? I think

784
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,679
you just reach people where they're at. And this is

785
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,960
a place where, at least in my world, and you know,

786
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,599
in my sphere, the Ryan Files sphere, if you will. Yeah,

787
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,679
that's where people are and that's what we can talk about.

788
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,320
And that's where you can make the connection and and

789
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:33,760
if people are open to it and hear the message,

790
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,039
then guess what, some good's going to come out of it.

791
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:39,679
And if they're not, maybe maybe it's just the first

792
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,880
of many seeds that needs planted. Or maybe maybe they

793
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,840
hear it and it doesn't affect them until you know,

794
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,559
six months down the road. Who knows. But I have

795
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,559
no power to have control over that. I'll leave that

796
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:56,119
to the higher ups, you know, the Holy Spirit. Okay,

797
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,119
you can handle that, But as far as me, my

798
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,480
job is just to plant the seeds and do it

799
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:06,880
out of love and actual genuine concern. And I do

800
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,480
man the people who tune into the Ryan Files, and

801
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,079
certainly I know you feel the same with Prometheus Lens.

802
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,320
It's there's a large part of this that comes out

803
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,400
of just love and caring for people and wanting them

804
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,519
to have a place to talk about this stuff, you know.

805
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,400
And so I think it's important what we're doing, even

806
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,320
though sometimes the Gospel isn't always the first thing. I

807
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,519
heard a gentleman talking a while back about he changed

808
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,199
his mind about his podcast and said, every time I

809
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,119
am on a podcast, I want to, in some way,

810
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,719
shape or form touch on the fact of the Gospel.

811
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,679
The redemption. And I thought about that in my own

812
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,599
case because I have a lot of non Christians on

813
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,400
scientists and you know, people from mof On and all

814
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,920
these different places that they're they're not coming at things

815
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,639
from a biblical worldview. And man, you know, Jesus died

816
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,119
for them too and for all the people that are

817
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,000
listening to them. So I like to engage in those conversations,

818
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,199
and I don't. The one big thing is, you know,

819
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,360
the modern day thing is you got to have a debate.

820
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,639
You always got a debate. You got to and if

821
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,000
someone says up out, if you don't nail them to

822
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,400
the wall in that moment, then you are just a

823
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,920
terrible No. I don't believe that. I do believe that

824
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,760
there's a time and place, but I also believe that

825
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,599
you can let people talk so that people can understand, Okay,

826
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:42,320
this is what the other side is thinking, all right.

827
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,159
And I have I've I've really enjoyed learning from the

828
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,679
non Christians who have come on and understanding Okay, this

829
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,480
is where they're coming from. So if this is where

830
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,760
they're coming from, well let's talk about this. Because with

831
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,119
without arguing with you, with out making it a debate.

832
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,119
Let's talk about this because that's where your your ideas

833
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:09,360
are kind of like flawed, and so it's it's just

834
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:13,000
been a very interesting ride getting to know people. And

835
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,360
once I kind of made that flip in my head

836
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,679
about this is what the Ryan Files is going to

837
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:22,360
be about. Man, I think the Lord is blessed it.

838
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,199
So I'm just thankful.

839
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, yeah, that's the thing that I recently

840
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,559
had a new age person on and I even done

841
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,400
it on purpose because I had a good friend of

842
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:42,199
mine who's a Christian, talked about the divine feminine from

843
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,039
a Christian perspective, and then I told them, I'm like, guys,

844
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,000
if you're easily triggered, don't tune in. Next week, I'm

845
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:52,519
talking to someone about the same subject of divine feminine,

846
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:56,760
but they are gnostic. So I want to hear things

847
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,599
from her perspective, her point of view, because her group

848
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:04,760
of people are the ones that are, you know, bowing

849
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,840
to this thing, and that's what their world is about.

850
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,880
So I want to hear it from their point of view.

851
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:13,079
And I did, and I was respectful. I set back,

852
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,840
let her talk. I heard things from her point of view.

853
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,000
I mean, I asked some questions, you know me, without

854
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,320
being a jerk or priding or beating her over the

855
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,880
head with anything. I just had a really great conversation,

856
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,960
and like you said, I seen where she was at,

857
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
I seen where she was coming from. And at the

858
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:31,679
end of it, I just told her, I said, Hey,

859
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,199
I appreciate you coming on, I said, and giving me

860
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920
your perspective. I said, a lot of the stuff that

861
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,760
you talked about, I said, referring to the Nogamiti text,

862
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,320
some of these gnostic leaning texts and stuff, I said,

863
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,360
I don't myself personally in align with. I don't agree with,

864
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
I said. I'm a Christian, I said, but I love

865
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:52,519
having these conversations and talking to people, I said, like

866
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:55,119
you and hearing you know what you found. What's your

867
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:58,159
research points too, I said, And we got to have that,

868
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,199
you know. But then next thing, you know, like you said,

869
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,360
because I didn't call her out and tell our house

870
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,960
he was wrong X y Z and real time and

871
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,639
all this kind of stuff that I, you know, wasn't

872
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:12,280
defending God, you know, or something like that, or defending

873
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,159
the faith. I'm like, guys, are we really that prideful

874
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,679
and arrogant that we think that God needs our defense,

875
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:20,880
the or the Word needs you know, we need to

876
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,039
put on our armor and fight and defend the Lord

877
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:26,480
because he's so helpless. And it's like, no, I mean,

878
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:29,559
you've got to build relationships with people, and you know,

879
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,519
if anything, make sure the ground stays soft so it

880
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,559
can take a seed later. So it's like a lot

881
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,920
of people that act like that, they they pack at

882
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,920
soil so tight. Man, They've made it impossible for the

883
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,880
next person to even plant a seed, you know.

884
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it surely doesn't feel like love whatever. You're

885
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,599
just berating someone over the head. You're literally taking the

886
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:57,239
Bible and just beating them over the head. Doesn't feel

887
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:03,360
like love. And you know, listen, people have all kinds

888
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,400
of different thoughts and opinions out there. And man, I'll

889
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,559
tell you what, I've learned so much from people who

890
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,079
have come on and explain to me why they believe

891
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:18,639
what they believe. And it challenges me. And I'm not

892
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:20,760
smart enough in the moment always to have the answer.

893
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,599
But I'll go back and I'll think it through and

894
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:26,599
I'll be like, no, that's this is the answer for that,

895
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:31,440
you know, And I challenge my audience to be curious

896
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:35,920
out there and don't don't don't take my word for it,

897
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,960
don't take the guest's word for something. Research it yourself.

898
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
But if it's causing you to think and then having

899
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:44,320
to like justify where you set with it in your world,

900
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,400
in your view and your world, your paradigm, that's a

901
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,679
good thing. Man, it's a good thing. And you can

902
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:54,559
have intelligent conversations, friendly conversations. I had a gentleman on

903
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,119
Frank Jacob and uh man, I mean, the dude's full blown.

904
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:01,679
I mean he came out and said it. He's like, yeah,

905
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:08,159
I'm gnostic, which is fascinating because isn't it. Isn't it

906
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,880
crazy that all the atheists and agnostics in the world,

907
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:14,880
especially on the science side of things. Hard to find

908
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,159
Christians in certain fields in science, But isn't it amazing

909
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:26,679
that they're turning from agnostics and atheists to gnostics. And

910
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,360
the reason why is because God created us with this

911
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,599
big hole in the middle of us. It needs filled

912
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,960
with something, and man, if you can't fill it with

913
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:41,960
something bigger than yourself because of you know, you don't

914
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,360
believe in a God or any kind of thing like that,

915
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:48,159
then you have this big empty hole on yourself. But

916
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,519
guess what, you can become a gnostic and you can

917
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:55,400
fill that hole with yourself. You can be the one

918
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,199
to transcend, you can be the one who becomes enlightened,

919
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:01,760
you can become God, just like in the garden, you know.

920
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,199
And it all goes back to that, and so everyone's

921
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,199
looking for something to fill that hole. You know. Beating

922
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,840
someone over the head doesn't seem like a way that

923
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,199
they're gonna say, hey, I want that. No, not at all.

924
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

925
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: Man.

926
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,119
Speaker 5: Uh.

927
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: Well, with going back like the Aliens and stuff, that's

928
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,480
one thing which I was always a big fan of

929
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:29,239
doctor Michael Heiser, and he was in the Aliens, you know,

930
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,440
and he said that even hell back in twenty twelve,

931
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,199
in twenty thirteen, that he was going to these you know,

932
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,119
UFO conferences and stuff like that and preaching the Gospel,

933
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,440
and to a lot of people back then when they

934
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,519
heard that, they were like, well, that's just ludicrous. You know,

935
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:48,920
how the hell are you gonna be talking about Jesus

936
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,920
in the Gospel and Christianity at a UFO conference? You know,

937
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,480
Because he had that framework, you know, and just like God,

938
00:54:56,639 --> 00:55:01,199
he met them where they were okay, like aliens and stuff.

939
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:02,599
All right, I'll show you where this is at in

940
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:05,639
the Bible. Or oh you like that show Stranger Things. Look,

941
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:08,239
I wrote a book. How that book? How that show

942
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,599
mirrors the story of Christ? You know, He meets people

943
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:17,159
where they are and pulls them, you know, makes them

944
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,400
want to come to the gospel. I should say, But

945
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,679
with the alien stuff, and this is super complex, and

946
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,639
feel free to take the Fifth Amendment or just pass

947
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:32,599
on the question if you need to. But big picture,

948
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,880
if aliens are real, all these years they deny, deny, deny.

949
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:44,159
Oh it wasn't a saucer. It was a weather balloon

950
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:46,920
at Roswell, you know, and all this stuff, and all

951
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,760
these people are crazy. They weren't abducted. They're having dreams

952
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,159
and nightmares. To now all of a sudden, yeah they're real.

953
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,159
There's non human biologics. What the hell is that?

954
00:55:59,519 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: You know?

955
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: And it goes on. They're just edging us along for

956
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:08,000
the past decades. But so it's like, are they real?

957
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:17,559
Why now? And what is their end goal agenda? What?

958
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,239
What is the cattle gate that they're all kind of

959
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:24,960
seemed to be hurting us toward. In your opinion, Ryan.

960
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: That's a good question, and it's not an easy answer. No,

961
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,960
but I can tell you. I can tell you a

962
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,800
few things that might shed some light onto them. So

963
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719
we're going through what you know, can only be described

964
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,440
as a soft disclosure right now. I think it's interesting

965
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:51,239
that www dot war dot gov slash UFO is the

966
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,599
site where all the the tranches of declassified documents are at,

967
00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:59,320
and images and videos and all that. Why didn't they

968
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,159
use UAP? Just think about that. Why did I use UFO? Anyways?

969
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,679
I go through all those records, and here's one thing

970
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,920
that I found. There is zero upside for a government,

971
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,920
any government, let alone our government, to do disclosure. There's

972
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:23,320
zero upside, period And the main reason why is because

973
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:30,760
there's a liability. Okay, what you spent the last eighty

974
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:39,400
years ridiculing people, grounding pilots, ending careers, potentially silencing people

975
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,519
over this, and you're not going to be liable if

976
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,719
you come out and say, we've known about it all along,

977
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,440
but we had a campaign to ridicule it. No, there's liability.

978
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,679
And moreover, if you get into the alien abductee side

979
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:58,639
of things, man, there's an MIT conference back in twenty twelve,

980
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,679
I believe where in Owen, I believe her name was

981
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:08,280
listed out forty four similarities between alien abductions and SRA

982
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:15,239
forty four comparisons similarities. And so you take a look

983
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,480
at this and you're like, oh, so you've spent the

984
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:22,199
last eighty years just telling these people that they were

985
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,679
crazy or whatever, and you didn't step in and help

986
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:28,639
whenever you knew that the phenomenon was real. And what's

987
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:32,119
happening right now in these disclosures, the most recent one

988
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:36,000
was on the twelfth of June, the same day Disclosure

989
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:41,719
Day came out. Ironically, they're actually admitting the government is

990
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,320
actually emitting and a lot of people think there's nothing burgers.

991
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,800
That's what they keep on saying. But the reality is

992
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,159
they're starting to admit things that are making them liable.

993
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,559
They in the last tranch, Trench number three, they fully

994
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,039
admitted that there was Their stance was we're going to

995
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,079
lie to the public. Were going to be researching this

996
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:05,760
deeply and categorizing it, have programs in place, but we're

997
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,079
going to control the narrative by ridiculing people on the outside.

998
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,880
It's essentially in a nutshell, what's going on, and they're

999
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:17,000
admitting it. Why would you admit that it's liability like crazy?

1000
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,320
And the further down this road they go, the more

1001
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,800
liability they're going to take on. That's a problem that

1002
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,320
makes you ask some interesting questions. And also keep in

1003
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,800
mind there is no such thing as a little disclosure.

1004
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,719
You can't disclose a little bit and not have to

1005
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:38,280
continue down the road. So it raises some questions like

1006
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,760
why would a government do this when there's zero upside

1007
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,679
for them to do it. Well, I think that there

1008
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,079
is something bigger that is forcing this action, that is

1009
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:52,400
forcing disclosure. And whenever you start thinking about it from

1010
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,039
that standpoint and you start thinking about the end times,

1011
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:58,280
I believe that there is a moment in time where

1012
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,519
the enemy is all jacked up and ready to go.

1013
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:05,199
They're like, this is our chance. We unleash it now.

1014
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:09,320
And I know that it's in God's time, but that

1015
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,360
doesn't mean that God doesn't have plant that seed and

1016
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,280
have them say hey, now's our time. And I just

1017
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:21,000
feel like disclosure is being forced by the enemy by

1018
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:23,480
I say the enemy, but in this case, let's just

1019
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,800
say the aliens, whatever that is. I think it's being

1020
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,280
forced by them, and I think there's going to have

1021
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,719
to be a narrative created to be able to accept

1022
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:36,559
it when it comes, because it's going to be massive

1023
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,039
and it's going to be life changing. It's going to

1024
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:43,360
change the way the world is period. And so I

1025
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,840
think that's why we're seeing this happening now. As to

1026
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:55,679
what the aliens are, that's a different question and why,

1027
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,920
but they're definitely in control of the timeline, it feels.

1028
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,199
So that's my thought and opinion on that. I think

1029
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:07,480
that you're going to see more and more come out

1030
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:09,440
and a lot of people think, you know, no, it's

1031
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,599
just going to be a little bit here and there. Trickle. Man,

1032
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:17,159
they're already lining themselves up to be liable. Governments don't

1033
01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:21,519
do that, and so we're seeing that happen today. The

1034
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:23,119
only thing that can be forcing this And a lot

1035
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:27,559
of people say, well, it's the congressional hearings in the whistleblowers. Man,

1036
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:32,360
they've spent eighty years stamping that stuff out. Okay, they

1037
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,360
could just keep on doing what they've done for eighty

1038
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,800
years and no one would be the wiser. And why

1039
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,639
does everyone think that everything is a nothing burgers, Because

1040
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:43,760
we've really already knew a lot of this stuff to

1041
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,440
be true. Okay, it's like for human beings, you know,

1042
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:51,559
like we do have the ability to figure stuff out,

1043
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,760
and there's enough. There's enough there there people talking the

1044
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:01,800
millions of abductee cases worldwide that at some point in

1045
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,079
time you're like, Okay, if even one of those is true,

1046
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,239
then there's a lot of other stuff that's probably true.

1047
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,119
So no one's surprised about what's coming out. But the

1048
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:13,440
thing that you should be surprised about is a government

1049
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,960
that is allowing it to happen whenever they are going

1050
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,000
to have to take on liability. Something is forcing this

1051
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:22,000
behind the scenes. There can be no doubt about that.

1052
01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:25,079
And I believe that it is the phenomenon, whatever that

1053
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:30,039
might be in a biblical worldview, guess what it fits.

1054
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,280
And there's not a lot of other views out there

1055
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:39,320
where it makes sense. So that's kind of my take

1056
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,639
on it. It is fascinating though, like you said, man,

1057
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:47,239
doctor Michael Heizer, Chuck Missler, Gosh, I would have loved

1058
01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:49,000
to have met both of them before they passed away,

1059
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:55,280
just sat down and talked. Man, great great people. I

1060
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,719
had a guy on you ever hear of Darryl Simms

1061
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Daryl Sims? Huh, Darryl simms Man. He's awesome. So he

1062
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,519
has a website called the Alien Hunter. What a great

1063
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,159
url to be able to get a hold of the

1064
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:14,199
hunter dot com. But he's been around for many years

1065
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:18,360
doing this. He is an abductee. He was in Vietnam.

1066
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:23,199
He was I forget the term he used, sheep dipped

1067
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,800
he said, by the CIA for a number of years.

1068
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,559
And today he's a detective, but he spent his detective

1069
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:33,760
skills over the years trying to figure out what happened

1070
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,280
to him between the ages of four and seventeen when

1071
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,519
he was abducted. And he is the Alien Hunter. He's

1072
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:45,519
a Christian and boy, I tell you what you talk

1073
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,559
about someone who has some ideas about what the phenomenon

1074
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:54,159
actually is and what it is not. It gets really crazy.

1075
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:57,039
And him and Michael Heiser were actually friends. Ironically enough.

1076
01:03:57,079 --> 01:03:59,400
They met at these conferences, like you said, out in

1077
01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:01,719
the desert or you know, the UFO conferences, because he

1078
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,840
would be speaking and they had a friendship and it

1079
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,199
was the kind of situation where Michael Heiser would sit

1080
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:11,559
down and ask him questions and he would give his

1081
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:18,480
thoughts and opinions based upon his experience. So Fascinating Guy show. Yeah,

1082
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,440
we just did a interview. Yeah, it's just coming out.

1083
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,599
It's coming out in the next couple of weeks. But

1084
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:27,679
it's a two part interview because it was really long.

1085
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:32,480
But he is of the opinion that this is It

1086
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:34,119
was really hard to kind of get him to nail

1087
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:36,639
it down, but I feel like I can say this

1088
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,679
safely that the phenomenon that we're seeing, according to him,

1089
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:50,199
was hatched, made, manufactured. I forget the other word he used. Basically,

1090
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,519
he's saying that all the phenomenon that we're seeing is

1091
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:59,800
some sort of hybrid hybridization. But who's in control of

1092
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,800
that behind the scenes. I think that he's pointing towards

1093
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:10,840
Follen Angels potentially these containers being containers for you know,

1094
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,719
the spirits of the dead, Nephelene, the demons, Genie Boas. Yeah,

1095
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:22,320
so he has a really interesting story, no doubt about it. Also,

1096
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,800
because of being inducted all the all those years, he

1097
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,599
said that he had a for whatever reason, he could

1098
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,760
not only just hear what they were saying to him,

1099
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,880
which of course you can and telepathically, but he could

1100
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,639
also hear the conversations that they were having between each other.

1101
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,480
When he was being abducted, so he has this insight

1102
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:50,239
into what was going on. Really, so just fascinating conversation

1103
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,480
and that does come into play in the book at

1104
01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:56,280
some point, that idea of the containers, the genie bottles,

1105
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,519
if you will. But it's a fascinating subject. But it

1106
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:03,280
does matter, and it's only gonna matter more, and it's

1107
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,360
very timely right now. That is why I'm trying to,

1108
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,039
you know, getting three hours of sleep at night, trying

1109
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:13,199
to do perform and do shows and do the podcast

1110
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:16,079
three episodes a week and find time to write.

1111
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:19,519
Speaker 3: M Yeah, man, well brother, I ain't gonna keep you.

1112
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:21,519
I know, like you said, you you busy dude. I

1113
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:23,880
know you had actually just reached out to me about

1114
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:30,039
the my publishing process, and then I'm mister capitalist. I

1115
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,039
was like, Wellyn's I got you on the phone. Let's

1116
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:33,519
try to get schedule time.

1117
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. No, I loved it. That's it. That's

1118
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,719
exactly you know how it is to get stuck in

1119
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,039
that email chain if you can't nail down a date.

1120
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,159
It's like, oh, yeah, I understand, I understand.

1121
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: It's like, while I got you on the phone, let's

1122
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:48,519
get this done. Here.

1123
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: That's all you said. That's what you said. I was like,

1124
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:53,079
I can appreciate that.

1125
01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, well I appreciate you taking the time

1126
01:06:55,519 --> 01:06:58,519
to come sit down between and the listeners and kind

1127
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:01,480
of talk about some of these subject and things like that.

1128
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,360
I know I had asked in the beginning, which if

1129
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,239
you did mention it, I must have missed it. But

1130
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,760
I'll ask again. And if I'm repeating myself, I apologize.

1131
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:16,000
But as we get ready to land this plane here,

1132
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,639
just let everybody know, like where they can find you, websites,

1133
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:23,960
your show, what kind of you know stuff? Can they

1134
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,840
be looking forward to that kind of thing? But also,

1135
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:30,039
did you give me a name for your book? Are

1136
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:32,280
are you still working on the title or is it

1137
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,400
just I'm not telling that right now kind of thing.

1138
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,239
Either way, I'm not a fan of just asking.

1139
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: I could Well, I'll be honest with you. Like I said,

1140
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,760
this started out as a book about World War three,

1141
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,920
and then the research was like, no, I need to

1142
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,280
write this other book. The working title, which will not

1143
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:55,840
be the final title, was a case for Aliens, But

1144
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,559
that's not going to be the final title. That is

1145
01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:02,719
the folder I'm computer where all my writing is at

1146
01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:05,639
and everything, but that's not going to be the final

1147
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:09,280
title because that's not what it's really about. So but

1148
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,079
A Case for Aliens was where it started, but it's

1149
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:16,399
definitely taken on its own life and direction since I

1150
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,159
started writing, no doubt about it. As far as The

1151
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:22,479
Ryan Files, you can go to YouTube dot com slash

1152
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,359
at the Ryan Files. We do shows on Monday, Tuesday,

1153
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:30,680
and Fridays seven pm. The weekly Briefing is live on

1154
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,079
Mondays and then the others are just shows. And the

1155
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:37,479
Ryanfiles dot Com is the website. You can stop over

1156
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,640
there and there's great resources, books, the book club and

1157
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:45,199
episodes and merchandise and all that fun stuff. But I

1158
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,000
just wanted to say before leaving, thank you so much. Doc.

1159
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,079
You have been awesome. You're you have a message out

1160
01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:58,640
there that your audience is listening to, and you're just

1161
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,680
growing the kingdom man, and in the way that you

1162
01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:02,960
know how to do it. Thank you so much for

1163
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:05,720
doing what you do. And man, just keep on keeping on.

1164
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,159
I don't know how much time we have keep on.

1165
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:13,359
Speaker 3: Going, brother, Thank you so much. Like I said, you

1166
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,399
nice stuff. Let me come on your show. I love

1167
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,439
what you do. Man, You're kind enough. Let me get

1168
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,960
in front of your audience and let me tell my message.

1169
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,640
So I'm so thankful for that, man, and thankful for

1170
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,439
our friendship. Dude. I love to get together again and

1171
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,560
work with you on some future projects. I got another

1172
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,600
book I'm working on. Maybe when I get closer to

1173
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,079
nailing it now and I will come hang out and

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have another conversation at your house.

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Speaker 1: Bro. That sounds great, But thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Guys, hope you enjoyed that. Man, Hey, don't be a jackass.

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If you like this and I've had your attention more

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than ten seconds, hit that like button. That is the

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podcast currency and I appreciate it. But guys, behavior until

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next time, just remember the difference between the known and

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the unknown. That is the journey, my friends. So good journey,

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guys and gals.

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Speaker 4: The boys, the cross shot the truth. So we steal

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the fastire, not to burn it down, but to war

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the one still froze him by the last passed around.

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They call it dangerous, they can They call it aercy