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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to day six of Halloween Week with Wicked and Grim.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jacko, and although there are only two

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<v Speaker 1>days remaining, I will continue and remain your master of

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<v Speaker 1>ceremonies until Halloween is done. After that, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>might kick my feed up on a little vacation, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will be sure to be careful in my travels

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<v Speaker 1>and as should you. You see, the story today deals

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<v Speaker 1>in a murderous family who took advantage of travelers. They

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<v Speaker 1>lured them in by means of their family business, a

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<v Speaker 1>lodging in. It was there when tired and weary tourists

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<v Speaker 1>would let their guard down, only to be struck when

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<v Speaker 1>list expected. In fact, this case would later spawn a

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<v Speaker 1>vicious Hollywood horror movie, and it was called The Devils Rejects, Ladies, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>theyse and them's. It is time to present to you

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<v Speaker 1>your hosts Ben and Nicole to tell you the tale

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bloody Benders.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacko and his countdown. There is only two days left.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why, I thought you were mid sentence. You just

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<v Speaker 3>stared at me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just stared at me. That was so much The

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<v Speaker 2>hell with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, and yeah, where are you going with this, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's shocking. It's shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>It is very much. So hopefully you guys have your

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween costumes and Halloween candy ready to go, because you're

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<v Speaker 3>running out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's got to stop the campdowns here. It's already

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<v Speaker 2>making me miss Halloween week.

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<v Speaker 3>You're already like thinking in past tense, like it's gone already.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we said, got two days left.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're still in the best of it. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>even at the climactic moment of Halloween itself yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So two things I wanted to talk about on

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween Day. Okay, So we're doing a live, Yes, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're doing a live. It will be on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to be doing it at six pm

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Standard time, correct, and then after that's over, so

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<v Speaker 2>like there, I guess you can kind of chat with us,

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<v Speaker 2>ask us questions, you can see what our Halloween costume is,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we will be bouncing over to Patreon after

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<v Speaker 2>that for a live just with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's like almost like the pre party will

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<v Speaker 3>be on Instagram and then like like the after party.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, I guess it's not the parties on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram the after parties on Patreon. Okay, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>We's the actual party.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's kind of what I was thinking of subscribing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the actual parties Instagram, and then the after party

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<v Speaker 3>is Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>And then super Cool. We will also be having a

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<v Speaker 2>giveaway on our socials on Halloween Day for a T

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<v Speaker 2>shirt and we also need to release it, but bend

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<v Speaker 2>it up. A new piece of merch we did. We

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<v Speaker 2>waket ingram, so we got to share that because you

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<v Speaker 2>could you could literally win that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the design, we're going to put it up

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram and facebooks. You can check it out. Link

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<v Speaker 3>for the merch is all down below in the description

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<v Speaker 3>of the podcast. You can go check it out there

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<v Speaker 3>right now if you want. But the design is called

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<v Speaker 3>crime Scene and it's got like a little like body

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<v Speaker 3>outline and like a little like crime scene going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's really awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. Yeah. And we also feel like we've just

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<v Speaker 3>been doing that a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh gosh, okay, let's stop always have something. It changes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, with the progression of Wicked and Grim, we've

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<v Speaker 2>had so many just sayings that we use for like

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<v Speaker 2>a few episodes. It seems, and then we almost bounced

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<v Speaker 2>to something else, and then like today, I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>already said bounced twice, which is fucked because I never

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<v Speaker 2>say bounce.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean such as the growth and flow of conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, like someone will say a word that just

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<v Speaker 3>like you latch onto for a week, or a saying

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<v Speaker 3>or you saw something in a TV show. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>remember what was that show with all like the three

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<v Speaker 3>nerd or four Nerdy dudes and Penny and Sheldon the

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<v Speaker 3>Big Bang Theory, Big Bang Theory?

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<v Speaker 2>How could you not?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know, but like when Sheldon

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<v Speaker 3>was saying bazinga, like that's what all anyone fucking said

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<v Speaker 3>for a month.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever said bazinga into that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, you know what I mean, I know what

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<v Speaker 3>you mean. Everyone's dialogue is constantly changing, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's just I mean, considering we're recording ourselves and we

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<v Speaker 3>have people pointing it out sometimes and we listen to

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves that we notice it.

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<v Speaker 2>You betcha, Oh yeah, you bet youa.

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<v Speaker 3>Bud, you bet youa.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have people sending us drink photos and I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to say we did get a couple, even

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<v Speaker 2>via email, and not all of them are alcoholic beverages.

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<v Speaker 3>No, which is totally cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone sent a frappuccino yeah, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like frappuccinos too, that's freaking awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Just if you want to be a part of it,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, message us, email us, tag us in a

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<v Speaker 3>post on Instagram or Facebook. Just be like, yo, Wicked

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<v Speaker 3>and Graham, we're chilling doing the thing. Yeah. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>drinking a margarita right now and coleport it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're all about the margaritas right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I love margaritas.

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<v Speaker 2>Are so good. They're pretty dang good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's uh, let's back ounce.

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<v Speaker 3>That's bad. You bet ya?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ready for this?

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<v Speaker 3>You bet ya?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you all ready for this?

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<v Speaker 3>You bet ya? Kay? I'm not going to say that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Once upon a time, in the heart of the

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<v Speaker 2>untamed wild West, where the prairies seemed to stretch on forever,

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<v Speaker 2>there lived a family, the Bender family. But they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>your typical family. The family consistent consisted sorry of John Bender,

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<v Speaker 2>who I will be referring to as Paul or John Senior.

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<v Speaker 2>His wife, who had many names for some reason. She

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<v Speaker 2>went by Elvira Elmyra, and I will be referring to

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<v Speaker 2>her as.

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<v Speaker 3>Ma as Ma Ma Ma, gotcha, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they also had their grown children, So they

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<v Speaker 2>had John Junior and a daughter named Kate supposedly in quotations.

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<v Speaker 2>I say supposedly because it's still unclear today if they

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<v Speaker 2>were actually related in the way that I had mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how they portrayed themselves as a family. But

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<v Speaker 2>being that the two kids were quite affectionate towards each other,

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<v Speaker 2>it was rumored they may have actually been married or

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<v Speaker 2>together in a common law situation, rather than brother and sister.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, okay. I mean it's not unheard of though,

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<v Speaker 3>for family members to live such lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wasn't going to really go there, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is an option.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, I said it very politely.

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<v Speaker 2>You did. So, Ma and Kate were potentially the only

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<v Speaker 2>ones that were of like blood relation that I that

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<v Speaker 2>I could find, But they could all have been to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's something that isn't is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Word, I have no idea?

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<v Speaker 2>Unclear, okay, unclear in my mindings.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was very unclear. Got it, I follow?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So to touch a bit more on the family,

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<v Speaker 2>John Senior was around sixty years old. He spoke little

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<v Speaker 2>English with a thick German accent, and was known for

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<v Speaker 2>his perpetual look of contempt, which is an interesting way

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<v Speaker 2>to describe someone resting bitch face. Basically, yeah, yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah guess resting bitch face. That's way better. Yeah ma.

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<v Speaker 2>She was aged fifty five. She also spoken little English

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<v Speaker 2>with a thick German accent, and had an unfriendly demeanor,

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<v Speaker 2>often referred to as a she devil by neighbors. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>can you imagine my she devil neighbor?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Holy heck?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>John Junior, approximately twenty five years old, was handsome with

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<v Speaker 2>an auburn hair and auburn colored hair sorry, and a mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>He spoke English fluently with a German acc accent. He

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<v Speaker 2>apparently had the tendency to laugh kind of aimlessly, though,

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<v Speaker 2>and this led people to think that he wasn't all

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<v Speaker 2>that bright. Okay, So, and finally, Kate, she was around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three years old, was cultured and attractive. She spoke

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<v Speaker 2>English well and was a self proclaimed healer and psychic,

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<v Speaker 2>known for advertising her supernatural powers and advocating free love.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate was the most social and likable member of the

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<v Speaker 2>Bender family. She was the face of the family and

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<v Speaker 2>her popularity attracted people, mostly men, to the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, so she's a bit of a hippie type.

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<v Speaker 2>Then hippy and a babe.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess a hippie babe, gotcha, peybabe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're living in the nineteenth century, a time where

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<v Speaker 2>the government was offering plots of land to anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>was to move to canvas and farm said land. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the Venders were a family that took them up

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<v Speaker 2>on this offer, moving to canvas and building a small

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<v Speaker 2>cabin in the eighteen seventies adjacent to the Great Osage

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<v Speaker 2>Trail in Labette County. Being that the trail was frequently

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<v Speaker 2>used by pioneers and travelers heading farther west, the family

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<v Speaker 2>eventually hung a grocery sign and turned their cabin into

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<v Speaker 2>a way station and in if you Will. The cabin

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<v Speaker 2>was divided with a canvas wagon cover to create two rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>They used the smaller room at the rear for living

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<v Speaker 2>quarters and the front room as a general store where

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<v Speaker 2>they sold dry goods and potentially goods from their vegetable

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<v Speaker 2>garden and apple orchard.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha. So we're talking like eighteen hundreds year. So

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<v Speaker 3>they took converted their cabin and just with canvas kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sorted out sections.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one room, and it wasn't very big cabin. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also think back then two people probably lived. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have high as high of expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they were quite modest living, which yeah, isn't a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible thing. No, I mean cutting down some of the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in today's society would be nice, you know, technology

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<v Speaker 3>and live in the large kind of means we don't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily need that. No, No, hence why we live in

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<v Speaker 3>a tiny home. I know, I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the front section also contained the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 2>dining table, where travelers could stop for a meal or

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<v Speaker 2>spend the night. Kate also offered her services of being

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<v Speaker 2>able to talk to the dead, which she did charge

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<v Speaker 2>a price for. The inn was rather unassuming, a refuge

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<v Speaker 2>for those weary from their long journeys, but behind the

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<v Speaker 2>facade of hospitality, a sinister secret lay concealed. The ves

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<v Speaker 2>in wasn't just a resting place for travelers. It would

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<v Speaker 2>actually be their final resting place. For many unsuspecting visitors.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was sinister. It wasn't just a resting place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was their final rest final resting place.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we've ever had a better time to

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<v Speaker 3>do this. Dun dun dun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well just wait, you have to do it again in

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<v Speaker 2>a secon because I want more align.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll hold the organ the piano. That sounded dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>So the piano.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. This is how the Bender family would

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<v Speaker 2>go about receiving their nickname as the Bloody Benders.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, okay, dune dun dun free. I'm just making

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<v Speaker 1>Shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So the bendersmo was chillingly simple. They would invite travelers

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<v Speaker 2>often loan men, into their inn for a meal or accommodation.

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<v Speaker 2>They would seat their guests at a table cleverly placed

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a canvas that separated the diners from

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<v Speaker 2>So as the guests ate their meal, one member of

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<v Speaker 2>with conversation and you know her good looks and charm yep,

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<v Speaker 2>while another assumed to be either John Senior or John Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>approached the curtain with the victim's head outlined through the canvas.

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<v Speaker 2>They would then smash the skull hidden as they were

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<v Speaker 2>still hidden behind the canvas, with a hammer Jesus like

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<v Speaker 2>as hard as they all could, right and just to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure the job was complete, because sometimes it wasn't. Kate

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<v Speaker 2>or Ma would then go about slashing the victims through Wow, like,

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious as to why what they're just stealing and

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<v Speaker 3>taking all this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess or you got to keep listening here. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say one more thing than I forgot to

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<v Speaker 2>if they always did the slashing of the throat, but

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like maybe they always did. But at times

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<v Speaker 2>after I think hitting them in the head, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>right before these victims probably was like what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>and got like an unedged feeling because there were I

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<v Speaker 2>think they had said, like at least ten bullet holes

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<v Speaker 2>within this cabin.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, so individuals firing back or.

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<v Speaker 2>Somethingah like trying to fight back right dang so then

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<v Speaker 2>the body would fall through a conveniently placed trapped door

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<v Speaker 2>basically right under them under this chair, into the basement,

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<v Speaker 2>never to rise again. In the basement, the benders continued

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<v Speaker 2>with their smooth operation. The lifeless victims were stripped of

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<v Speaker 2>their valuables, and because many of them were traveling, some

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<v Speaker 2>victims had a substantial amount of money on them, and

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<v Speaker 2>not to mention their modes of transportation to boot like

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<v Speaker 2>their horses or their buggies or whatever, right and.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever supplies that are carrying with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, saddles. I think one person had a saddle

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<v Speaker 2>that was actually worth quite a bit of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I can imagine, like an waste leather saddle.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they're not cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, So fear and suspicions spread through the surrounding

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<v Speaker 2>community as travelers passing through the AIRA vanished without a trace.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't long before one particular traveler became entangled in

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<v Speaker 2>the web of the bloody vendors. Vendors. Did I say vendors?

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<v Speaker 3>You said vendors, which almost makes it sound like actually

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<v Speaker 3>like that terrifying story, because well, I mean they almost

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<v Speaker 3>are vendors, like they're offering the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fartality offering a service. Yeah, so his.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloody bending benders.

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<v Speaker 2>Bending benders, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying with something there just didn't really work.

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<v Speaker 2>So his disappearance would set in motion the events that

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<v Speaker 2>would eventually finally expose the family of serial killers. His

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<v Speaker 2>name was doctor William Henry York. Now doctor York was

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<v Speaker 2>actually in search of a friend. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor that had went missing in the area. And

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<v Speaker 2>this neighbor was called George Longcour and his one year

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<v Speaker 2>old daughter Mary Anne.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I meta, Margarita, what is up with you? What?

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<v Speaker 2>First of we are eating candy on here. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>like sipping from a straw really loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted my last sip of margarita.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>You should not to you. Oh shit, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. But when he himself also went missing, his brothers

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<v Speaker 2>Ed York and Colonel Alexander York, who was a Civil

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<v Speaker 2>War veteran, lawyer and politician, so he had like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a resume, Yeah, no kidding a began an all out

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<v Speaker 2>search for their missing brother. So they they missed, they

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<v Speaker 2>mess of the wrong family here this time. Clearly, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that always happens, right something, Well not always, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's always something like luck generally runs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Alexander, leading a company of more than fifty men,

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<v Speaker 2>like at least fifty men, questioned every traveler along the

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<v Speaker 2>trail and visited all the area homestead, including the Benders. In.

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<v Speaker 2>The Benders did, however, admit to him that his brother

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<v Speaker 2>did stay with them, but that he was alive and

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<v Speaker 2>well when he left, and suggested the possibility that he

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<v Speaker 2>had ran into some trouble after his stay with them,

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<v Speaker 2>like mans, you know, it was the wild West. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander agreed, this, you know, could be a possibility. But

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<v Speaker 2>as he continued his investigation, it kept leading him back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Venders, as several people had unpleasant stories to

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<v Speaker 2>share about them. But he wanted to do things the

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<v Speaker 2>right way and insisted on finding evidence. So he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to just like storm a blazon go in there

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<v Speaker 2>and be like I got you. You know, he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do it the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing willy nilly here. He's going to do it good.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe well, I was going to say he's a politician,

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<v Speaker 2>but actually it probably doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know, sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>In shape.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, around the same time, neighboring communities began to

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<v Speaker 2>make accusations that the o Sage community was responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>the disappearances. So the Sage they were like, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>They arranged a meeting to discuss the disappearances, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was agreed upon that a warrant would be obtained to

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<v Speaker 2>search every homestead in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so at this meeting, both Paul and John Junior

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<v Speaker 2>were there. They were at the meeting, which then led

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<v Speaker 2>the family to flee their homestead. I wonder why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure we're about to find out why and

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<v Speaker 3>how many bodies are reasons? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>As you count on your fingers. Yeah, it wasn't noticed initially,

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<v Speaker 2>but several days after the meeting, a neighbor noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>the benders in was abandoned and the farm animals they

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<v Speaker 2>had were unfed and unintended to, which is terrible. This

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<v Speaker 2>was reported to the township trustee, which then called for

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<v Speaker 2>volunteers to form a search party. So a lot of reports.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think I said this in here, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was like hundreds of people, like numerous people going there,

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<v Speaker 2>which I feel like is just such a disaster, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really back in the day. So a search party,

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<v Speaker 2>fueled by concern and a growing sense of dread, was

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<v Speaker 2>hastily assembled. The inn, which had once seemed like a sanctuary,

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<v Speaker 2>now seemed to hold the air of just gloom. Upon

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<v Speaker 2>arriving at the inn, they found the empty, the cabin

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<v Speaker 2>empty of food, clothing, and personal possessions gone. There was

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<v Speaker 2>also a horrendous odor that could not go unnoticed to some.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew the smell, and it was the smell of death.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool. Well, I'm just sitting here thinking, like, Okay, the basement.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly there's death rotting and bodies down there. I assumed

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<v Speaker 3>that when they dropped to the basement they were like

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<v Speaker 3>remembering and like disposing. But doesn't seem like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't know a lot of people too. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reports also said that there was like a

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<v Speaker 2>fly situation, which you know kind of goes hand in

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<v Speaker 2>hand for that. Yeah, the smell was traced to a

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<v Speaker 2>trap door, which at this point was underneath the bed

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<v Speaker 2>and nailed shut. Of course, you know they opened the door.

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<v Speaker 2>I would fucking run for the hills, but they opened

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<v Speaker 2>the door, terrified what they might find beneath it, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was actually no sight of any bodies. There was

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<v Speaker 2>blood and lots of it on the floor, but other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, it was an empty room.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The search needed to continue, though, so starting at this

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<v Speaker 2>secret door, they broke down the stone slab floors, still

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<v Speaker 2>finding no human remains. Every corner was searched, every floorboard

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<v Speaker 2>examined for the hidden hoars they concealed, with the search

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<v Speaker 2>party even apparently physically lifting the cabin dang, which I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how the fuck does that even happen to dig underneath?

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<v Speaker 2>But still, other than blood, no remains were found.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that kind of reminds me of like, have you

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<v Speaker 3>seen like those Amish communities when they like move a barn. No,

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<v Speaker 3>they will literally just like get all these dudes together

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<v Speaker 3>from the Amish community and they literally just lift a

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<v Speaker 3>barn and walk it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Oh yeah, oh so there's no foundation whatsoever? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, No, No, it's just like sitting on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing, huh, or sitting on blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to make sure that you all kind of lifted.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in this sense, they probably didn't give a

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<v Speaker 2>shit if they kind of wrecked the house, but like

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to kind of all lift at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like could.

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<v Speaker 3>Be well, I mean, picture this. You got a small

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<v Speaker 3>little cabin. You got one hundred dudes around it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone ready, one, two, three, lift? Sure, it's gonna lift.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna lift.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wow, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Get enough muscle behind it, She's going up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Okay. So they then started probing the ground with

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<v Speaker 2>a metal rod. It was the garden beneath the freshly

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<v Speaker 2>turned soil that the group made their chilling discovery, revealing

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<v Speaker 2>the remains of numerous victims. The once unassuming Bendorin was

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<v Speaker 2>now a house of horrors. Doctor Yorke's body was found

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<v Speaker 2>buried in the orchard, along with numerous other bodies. A

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<v Speaker 2>body was also found in the well, which I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't they be drinking the fucking water for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that just contaminates your water source?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't even get that.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless they weren't using that well they had another source

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<v Speaker 3>or something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nasty and various body parts were also found that

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<v Speaker 2>did not belong to any of the other victims. So

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<v Speaker 2>like cool, they would find like a random arm or whatever, right,

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<v Speaker 2>All but one had their heads bashed with a ham

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<v Speaker 2>and their throats cut. The body of little Marianne, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the one year old ahit was buried with her father

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<v Speaker 2>with no injuries sufficient to cause death, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>speculated that she may have been buried alive.

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<v Speaker 3>I fuck kind of saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that is too much. That is disturbing. Shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Three hammers, so, a shoehammer, a claw hammer, and a

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<v Speaker 2>sledge hammer that appeared to match indentations and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the skulls were all found, as well as a knife

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<v Speaker 2>with a four inch tapered blade still bearing a stain

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<v Speaker 2>of blood. Word of the murders spread quickly, and allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people, including reporters from as far away as

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<v Speaker 2>New York and Chicago, visited the site of the inn.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The cabin, though, was destroyed by souvenir hunters who took

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely everything, including the brook, the bricks that lined the south,

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<v Speaker 2>and the stones that line the well.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like people wanted a piece of this, which is interesting.

426
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it, and I don't get it.

427
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Nowadays that shit just can't happen though, because like crime

428
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>scenes are.

429
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, well, I'm I'm thinking that's very akin to

430
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>the cabin in Evil Dead. It was like people went

431
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.160
<v Speaker 3>and took pieces of it and everything, and it was

432
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 3>on private property too, but it eventually it actually burned down,

433
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 3>so there's not a whole lot left of it, but

434
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 3>there are still some stones left from the fireplace and stuff.

435
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh are you think still? Really?

436
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

437
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Can people not go there and grab them there?

438
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 3>It's private property? Well, it's it's private property and I

439
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>can't remember where it's located. But Bruce Campbell, the star

440
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 3>of Evil Dead, he plays at Williams. He even warns people.

441
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.279
<v Speaker 3>He's like, don't go there because like I can't remember

442
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 3>where it is. Yeah, he's like, you'll get a buckshot

443
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 3>to your ass. Holy, Like it's redneck area sort of thing.

444
00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>That's terrifying.

445
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so don't fucking do that. But it's kind of

446
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 3>very similar thing. People were rating it for pieces.

447
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>See, it's kind of sad. Actually, there's a location in

448
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 2>town that I used to shoot at that was like

449
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful barn and people would go about stealing pieces

450
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 2>of it too, and then it wrecked the structure and

451
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>the barn like fell in.

452
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, is that the one went up near the airport.

453
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, and it's I mean, the thing was

454
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.200
<v Speaker 2>old and like weathered, so it might have kind of

455
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>like been facing its doom anyway. But still, I can't

456
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>imagine people like going stealing things as they want to

457
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>make a sign for their house.

458
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just vandalism.

459
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I also wanted to mention before I

460
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 2>finished this off, is the weapons are at museums now,

461
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>which is really cool, including that knife. But apparently the

462
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>knife isn't on display because it has like bloodstain on

463
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 2>on it, so you have to request it or something.

464
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's in the Kansas Museum.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cool, morbid but cool.

466
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh I would yeah, I would request to see if

467
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>a show. I wonder if people are just like like

468
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>they want to see it again, or if it's like, yeah, sure,

469
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll go get it for you. You know.

470
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's kind of it's it's the museum.

471
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.400
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of the point. So I'd assume people working

472
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 3>there is like understand.

473
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

474
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like saying, like you work at a bar and

475
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 3>someone orders a beer and the bartender's like, I got

476
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 3>to get you another beer? Are you kidding me? Like

477
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of the point of the place, you know

478
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

479
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I totally get that. I'm just seeing if

480
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I can find where what what museum? It was the

481
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Kansas Museum of History. So yeah, still bearing reddish brown

482
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>stains on the blade. It can be seen upon requests.

483
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 3>Wild.

484
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is wild. So a nationwide manhunt was launched

485
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Vendor family, including the offers offerings of large

486
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>rewards for the family's arrests, and that was something kind

487
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 2>of more rare for about then. The Bender's family wagon

488
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>was found shortly after their disappearance, and it was only

489
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a few miles away from their home, and there had been,

490
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, over the years, numerous apparent sightings, but the

491
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>family seems to have just vanished into the air, leaving

492
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>behind only the echoes of their gruesome deeds.

493
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 3>They were never found. No, oh shit.

494
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Really really fuck I mean, there's speculation that people because

495
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>back then, people kind of took things into their own

496
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>hands often fair enough. Yeah, so there is speculation that

497
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe some people did get to them and they

498
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>did get murdered, but maybe they literally just did get

499
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>away with it too.

500
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Back then, it was also a lot easier to just like, hey.

501
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>My name is now slip into the shadows.

502
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, John Doe and this is Mary Sue and we're

503
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>a family from upstate somewhere, like you know what I mean.

504
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>So, including random body parts recovered and bodies found off

505
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>site because there were a few of those, it speculated

506
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that the Benders killed as many as twenty people from

507
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>May eighteen seventy one to May eighteen seventy three, so

508
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>two years. And that's on including the stories. There's many

509
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>stories of people that got away. Yeah, and I bet

510
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 2>you anything, that number even could be higher, and they

511
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>probably if they got away, literally, there's probably even more.

512
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they're doing the ship before eighteen seventy one,

513
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Like well, I.

514
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Was thinking twenty sounds like a low number.

515
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there's probably numerous that they didn't even unbury

516
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, right.

517
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 3>That they're not aware of or yeah.

518
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Wild And that's the grim till of the Bloody Benders,

519
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 2>which apparently is America's first serial killer family.

520
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>That's cool, what's Paul?

521
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Well?

522
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Cool?

523
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 3>It's cool because I mean it's I learned a little

524
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>bit about. Okay, the whole Bloody Bender situation not cool,

525
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>trust me. The douchebags and murders. Fuck them. However, there

526
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>is a movie called The Devil's Rejects that this inspired.

527
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Which I didn't even know about that, to be honest.

528
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, you were kind of just filming in like before this,

529
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 3>just a brief thing about like, hey, they ran an

530
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>end and the daughter kind of like swooned them a

531
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 3>little bit and distracted them and then they caught. And

532
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that sounds like Devil's Rejects. Yeah, and

533
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I gave a quick google and yeah, it's based.

534
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Off of that, which apparently is the movie that scared

535
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 2>the shit out of you the most.

536
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 3>That is one of the horror movies that has bothered

537
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 3>me the most ever, and the reason for it is

538
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>it's it's too real. So imagine, like think of horror movies.

539
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 3>There's there's ghost stories, There's there's demons, there's monsters, there's

540
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 3>creatures coming out from wherever. There's serial killers, there's the

541
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 3>slasher films where they're wearing a mask and they're chasing

542
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>you with a knife, and it's like the intense music.

543
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Things that a lot of times you're like, oh, that

544
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>would never happen to me.

545
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would never happen to me. And even if

546
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 3>it does, it's like it's just such a weird chain

547
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 3>of events to lead you there. It's like that's one

548
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 3>in a fucking million. Yeah, But with Devil's Rejects the movie,

549
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 3>it's the killers are not a monster. They're just another

550
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 3>fucking person. They're not some deranged psycho who had this

551
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 3>terrible upbringing and got them there. It's just another fucking

552
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>person that you just happen to run into, and they

553
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 3>put you in a position where you're absolutely fucking helpless,

554
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And it just got to me so bad. It's such

555
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 3>a well done movie. Love the movie, but goddamn it

556
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 3>gets to me.

557
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh in the darkness, I just saw Kiwi's eyes. You know,

558
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>housemers are like reflective. That was freaking creepy.

559
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Good Oh my god, Halloween decoration.

560
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Ever, Well, I did want to say too about this family,

561
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>is their main motive was, is you know, like stealing, right, Yeah,

562
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of figured out. But then and a lot

563
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>of because a lot of people had quite a bit

564
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of money, but then some of them didn't actually have

565
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 2>very much money at all, but they still want about

566
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>killing them, and so it was you know, kind of

567
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 2>speculated that they also enjoy doing this which is so

568
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>fucked well.

569
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, typically someone who's becoming a serial killer, it's

570
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>not just about the money, it's not just about the trophy.

571
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>It's they enjoy the thrill of it.

572
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>They enjoy the thrill of it. And there's actually even

573
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 3>speculations of individuals going on conversations like psychology wise and

574
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>stuff about how these individuals almost want to get caught,

575
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>and that's.

576
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>At some point it seems like they really do.

577
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's why, I mean, that's why they taunt police. Yeah,

578
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 3>that's why they write these letters, or that's why they

579
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 3>leave a calling card, That's why they get sloppier, that's

580
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>why they get more brave, and all these things. It's

581
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>like they kind of want to get caught.

582
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, even think about too, how there's so many people

583
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>in jail are just random people who oh, I can't

584
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>think of the word, but they admit to a crime

585
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't do, yeah, because they almost want I

586
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't even know what would they want of that.

587
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of almost like a badge of honor, being

588
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, fuck, yeah that was.

589
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Me, which is so disgusting.

590
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that renown that yeah fuck that.

591
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, one more thing I wanted to just say

592
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>too is the this is a this is a pretty

593
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 2>dang large story, and like our Halloween episodes are a

594
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit shorter. So there is a book out there

595
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>that I kind of got some information from, and it's

596
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>called Hell's Half Acre, The Untold Story of the Venders,

597
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>a serial killer family on the American Frontier. That would

598
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>probably be like a pretty amazing read, just to like

599
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>if you really wanted to die into this story.

600
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I can imagine a lot of these cases where it

601
00:33:56.839 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>is like major history going back a few hundred years.

602
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>You can dig really deep, and it's like if there's

603
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>books on them, usually it's like that person has dug

604
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 3>real fucking yeah.

605
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, and like there's even quite a bit of photos

606
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I was a bit surprised how much information

607
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>was out there, but then there was a lot of

608
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 2>reports kind of that you have to be careful because

609
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.679
<v Speaker 2>it's so long ago, so like the story, people to

610
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of change the story a little bit.

611
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's always a concern with this sort of stuff.

612
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>The telephone game or whatever it's called. Yeap, So, yeah,

613
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the freaking story.

614
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Well well done. I'm kind of actually, like I said, cool.

615
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a cool episode.

616
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of happy you did this one because it's

617
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like I said, it's kind of going

618
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 3>into that horror genre a bit, and it's I kind

619
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>of learned something like outside of just the realm of

620
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 3>what we usually do. It's like, oh, I know something

621
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.679
<v Speaker 3>about that that it ties to and that's cool that Factoy,

622
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 3>it looks.

623
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>So excited right now.

624
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry.

625
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Generally we end the episode were like, wow, that sucks,

626
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Like cool, well, and does this mean I'm gonna have

627
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to watch the friggin movie?

628
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh you fucking bet you.

629
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I really want to at all.

630
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I would weigh rather watch Okay, this is fucked, And

631
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like i've I think I shared like a

632
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 2>meme or something about this in Patreon, But I would

633
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>way rather listen to a true crime podcast or watch

634
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>like a true crime documentary or something that's like true

635
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>versus that.

636
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, not the oh that's just scares the shit

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<v Speaker 2>out of me. Like I don't even think it's too

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<v Speaker 2>much visual. I think is what it is probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, fair enough, and yeah, it's it's not it's

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<v Speaker 3>a story to entertain rather than a story to educate,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like when you're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>true crime, you're watching a documentary, it's it's educating, you're

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<v Speaker 3>learning something about someone, about an event. It's it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a completely different media of entertainment value rather than

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<v Speaker 3>just like, oh my god, here's blood and gore and

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<v Speaker 3>a story that was made up and it's cool and

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<v Speaker 3>it's fun to watch and oh my god, you see

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<v Speaker 3>I almost beat myself. Well, rather than oh this person

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<v Speaker 3>happened this time, and it's like, wow, I know someone

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<v Speaker 3>who lives in that city and like a block away

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<v Speaker 3>from that house. It's wild and I can't believe someone

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<v Speaker 3>would actually do that. Oh my god, he got bail.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you fucking kidding me? Or justice system is shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's completely different. Yeah, sorry, I went on a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a rampage there, you did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was enjoying it. Really, I was enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I enjoyed this episode. It's a good job, well done.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're left to just Halloween Day episode. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just one to go. Goodness, unless you're a patron, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>because Patreon is getting a little bit of extra treatment,

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean it's Patreon that they literally subscribe for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to join up, Patreon link is

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<v Speaker 3>down below, along with all of our other links Facebook, Instagram, website,

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<v Speaker 3>read it, YouTube, you know, name it all. It's down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can you say what they're getting the extra Patreon?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting an extra episode because they always get an

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<v Speaker 2>extra episode at the end of the month. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>also getting how would you say, the history, the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Jacko, Jacko's backstory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're gonna sit down. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast episode discussing Jacko and his backstory, who he is,

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<v Speaker 3>where he came from, and how he came to be

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<v Speaker 3>the Jacko that we know today.

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<v Speaker 2>We know and love today of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, we swoon over Jacko, Oh totally. I

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you there's someone out there swooning over Jacko right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, is it you?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit? Are you jealous a little bit? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to take him on. I have a word with

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<v Speaker 3>Jacko about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lucky to kick your ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh probably. Anyways, you guys, thank you so so much

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<v Speaker 3>for being here if you want to join our Patreon

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, links down below. If not, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you just the same, and we have that one more

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<v Speaker 3>day to go to Halloween, so we will see you

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<v Speaker 3>in the next episode tomorrow and until then, stay wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>It
