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Speaker 1: Welcome to Waye You Talk Today, the Golden Stata of

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sports betting shows where we talked the talk and walk

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the walk. It's Monday, a loaded lineup to kick off

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Thanksgiving week. Yanni the Greek's gonna start us off with

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Steam Report, Crackman's gonna drop an NBA prop, give us

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some thoughts on Monday Night football, and Steve Merrill busy Man.

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Today we're gonna preview Panthers forty nine ers, also gonna

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take a look at the NBA Calvs and Raptors, and

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then college basketball Saint John's versus Iowa Stope, Iowa State.

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Hope everyone had a really good weekend. No time to waste.

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Let's bring in Yanni and so we got cooking this week. Indeed, Yanni,

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Thanksgiving cooking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, one of the best weeks. Doesn't get

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better than this, bro doesn't get Honestly, like, I've been

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here now for thirty years in Vegas and still March Madness,

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that first Thursday, Super Bowl Day, in the day before

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and then Thanksgiving. Those four days are still among my

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best that I look forward to. When it comes to

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likes like that, I enjoy it, not just the job

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just because it's everybody's all from work. You have all

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those prime time standalone TV games. People are just betting,

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so it's like a different markets. It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's like Sunday afternoon football NFL market, but over four days.

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So yeah, a lot of opportunity to make money.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into it. Let's talk some

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steam Report. If guys please hit the like button really

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helps us out. Let's go to Let's start with college basketball.

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You said you actually have quite a bit of college

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basketball today, so let's start there and get things started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I already gave out ten moves

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in the steam sheet today, and that makes my life

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so much easier because two premiums already released the subscribers.

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But I get so much information. It's good to be

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able to use it. Like this one just came in now, Liberty,

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and I liked Liberty today. That's an early game again Vermont.

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So we're laying the eight on Liberty that was already

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in the steam sheet. Wow, so okay, they're coming back

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with Liberty. Here's some of the college foot basketball eight

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oh two UAB minus two to two and a half

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eight eighteen Arkansas State minus two and a half and

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three eight twenty Northern Arizona plus the three eight twenty

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eight Arizona minus thirty one and thirty two. You just

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got that liberty play. Now what else can I give you?

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Eight thirty Toledo plus the four, eight seventy one, Seaton

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Hall plus ten and a half, eight sixty one Houston

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minus thirteen and a half, eight sixty four Oregon plus

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the four, eight fifty two Akron minus the one, and

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eighteen thirty three Rhode Island minus the one in the

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first half. I know there's some early games going off

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today as well that we got down on. So college

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basketball all day today and those that are checking the

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steam sheet, I think it's free for everyone this week,

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so you get updates. We'll probably have a couple. I

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won't make you go crazy with NonStop up We should

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get more college basketball throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look. We're talking basketball. Got

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a really good slate of NBA games as well. I

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see see maybe some totals on some move on totals here,

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but what are you seeing on your end?

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Speaker 2: All right? The one total that we hit was the

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Houston Phoenix total game five fifteen under two twenty seven

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through two twenty five. That was up there early on

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that steam sheet too. Some of these got away from us.

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Here's the sides five oh one Detroit minus eight and

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a half, nine, nine and a half and ten. I

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had to keep up dating that five oh nine Denver

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minus seven, seven and a half and eight, five point fifteen,

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Houston minus six, five seventeen Minnesota minus eight and a

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half and nine, and then five twenty Utah minus fourteen. Well,

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you noticed they're all favorites. The key do they come

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back on the dogs? We know recreational betters ten the

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bet favorites, we know they didn't have the best week

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last week. They're kind of chasing heading into the holiday weekend.

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Rest assured favorites are gonna be jacked up a little bit.

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That's what we're looking at. But the key is are

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they going to come back and take the dogs a

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little bit later? Are somebody's gonna be set up for

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middles or legit moves later?

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Speaker 1: John wants to know where is the steam sheet found?

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Can you point people to that?

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Speaker 2: Yanni, Yeah, if you go to my page on wager

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talk dot com, should be up and available for you guys.

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I know it's up there because I know we already

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we gave the I have one four percent today in

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college basketball, and that's being given in the steam sheet

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for free, and then all that stuff that I keep adding.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to football. We've got NFL tonight, We've got

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multiple games on Thursday, so I'm sure money has started

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to move in. Let's talk about the game tonight. Are

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you seeing anything? You see a huge move on the

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total from where it opened to where it is now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm surprised the side hasn't really been jacked

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up yet, especially for teaser protection. Kind of tells you

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there is some Carolina money that's holding it back because

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they got to have a lot of exposure on San

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Francisco just in parlays for money lines and even from teasers,

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because let's not forget the Rams were a popular signed

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on Sunday Night football. They got there against the spread,

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they got there on the teaser, they got there on

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the money line parlays, and I think a lot of

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them are tied into San Francisco against Carolina. And listen,

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San Francisco is an elite team. That's the bottom line.

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You're looking at the question is is Carolina have anything

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to play for? Because with San Francisco, they're a top

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five strength of schedule team. Their offense is top ten,

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their defense is just out of the top ten. So

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considering they have a top five strength of schedule, their

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stats are really good. They're legit seven to fourteen. Flip side,

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I look at Carolina, They've had a barely a top

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ten I mean a top twenty strength of schedule, barely

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in the top twenty, and yet there's only four teams

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worse than them offensively, five teams worse than them defensively

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efficiency wise, So obviously it's an elite team like San

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Francisco against a week team like Carolina who has six

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wins and five losses. Like how they have six wins

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is beyond me considering their stats. But they continue to

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get covers. I mean they're seven and four ats. You

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made more money betting Carolina than San Francisco, and that's

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where the spread becomes the great equalizer. Will they be

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able to keep it close? Because you look, the last

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four times they were dogs, they got the money, and

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not only did they get the money, they won outright,

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So it's a scary dog to fade in Carolina, but

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you have the recency buys to San Francisco coming off

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scoring forty plus points last week and a big game

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for them, division rival our own up beating them by

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three touchdowns. Tough game because again the superior team is

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obviously San Francisco, but once you get up over a touchdown,

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you have to have some conviction that they're gonna be

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able to blow them out. The total seems to have

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moved a little bit too high now if you're chasing

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that over, probably should have got involved a little bit

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earlier in the week, because, like you mentioned, it just

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continues to go up. And some of that has to

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do with recency bias, and the rest of it has

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to do with With San Francisco, the weakness is the

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defensive side of the ball, at least that's where they're weaker,

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and with Carolina they're weak on both sides of the ball.

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So I do think the market expects points, and so

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far we haven't seen resistance from the wise guys, Like

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even at fifty and a half that I did see

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some credit shops go to I didn't see any biting

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on the under. That'll be interesting to see if the

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sharps come in and take any of that on there.

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I know they went over early, but at a much

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different number.

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Speaker 1: Question Andrew was curious about this Michigan Ohio State move.

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Are you seeing anything? Probably pretty early in the week.

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I know you always say that most of the time,

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this money kind of comes in closer. Do you see

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anything for Ohio State Michigan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What a game? Right?

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Speaker 2: You see if I see anything else come in early?

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I didn't see much at all. No, it's like you

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touched on. It's really early. I don't even see that game.

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Is that Friday or Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Saturday? Saturday November twenty nights. So yeah, we were just curious.

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But yeah, this early in the week, you're probably not

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going to get confirmation or get anything.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean ten and a half like got taken out,

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but then nine and a half got taken out, So

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it seems like they settled that the line should be ten.

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Like anyone at nine and a half? Is that juiced

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minus one? P fifteen. But you do see some of

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the square shops at ten and a half, so obviously

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they're expecting the public to beat on Ohio State, and

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why wouldn't they best team in the country continue not

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just to win, but cover games, which is almost impossible

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to do. When you're the number one team in the country.

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You're not supposed to be that good. Ats the books

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should be able to protect themselves against that, and they

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haven't been able to. So I think this is one

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of those cases where if you're liking Ohio State, brother,

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do not wait because unless the Bettingston gets line up

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and steam Michigan, which they have no reason to do

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so early in the week, when you're seeing the line

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moving in the direction of Ohio State, I would get

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down on Ohio State now, or I would wait a

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little bit on the Michigan side.

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Speaker 1: All right, You mentioned Thanksgiving and just how awesome it is.

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we know from from Thanksgiving games that you try and

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follow each year or is it just new Year? It's

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always something different for me.

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Speaker 2: It's year to year. Honestly, I'm not a big trend guy. Again,

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I don't knock it anyone making money on with trends,

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God bless you keep doing it. I just feel like

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I could find a trend for anything like if I

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add enough factors, I could find one hundred percent trend.

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there a fundamental reason why that trend should continue? Like

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if you tell me that the Phillies are eight to

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oh when a day game with a starting pitcher whose

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last name starts with a P and the first baseman

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is right handed that day like that, there's no fundamental

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reason that trend should continue, that it should get the

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ten and oh. But tell me that this team hits

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left handers and that year they're hitting left these better,

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then that's a trend I could pay attention to, you

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know what I mean. So to me, it comes down

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to the trend. And I'm not a big, big trend guy.

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I don't have that kind of memory. Unfortunately, like game By,

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they all mix up. For me, I look at him

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each individually.

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Speaker 1: What are we seeing with some of the We've got

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so we got Green Bay, Detroit, we've got kids of

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city down since Inny Baltimore, Yeah, yeah, I see the

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line is dropped on on Baltimore. Probably the news with

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Joe Burrow. Plus fact Baltimore hasn't looked back great covering

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these big numbers. What are we seeing this early in

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Speaker 2: Lions, Lions, Lions. The public's already betting the Detroit Lions,

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and yet you could get them at minus three plus

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one oh five or minus two and a half minus

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two and a half. So that's a little bit uh

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interesting this early in the week, uh seeing that even

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though the public, again they're not heavy public money this early,

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but that tells me they're tying in this Monday night

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game with Thursday's action already. So I'm sure you're getting

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tonight the favorite teased or the favorite Parlaid money line

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with Detroit. And that's why I'm starting to see the

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Detroit risk because I just looked in the back end

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of a book I have access to, and their risk

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is already piling up, Like they have zero risk right

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now in Green Bay, but they have risk on Detroit.

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Thursday from tonight, and that's not surprising that they're going

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to bet Detroit. Dallas and Kansas City, Believe it or not,

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I think Dallas will get some money at home, especially

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the way they came back yesterday against Philadelphia. Against Dallas

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at home Thanksgiving Day and the Chiefs, you know they

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they've been beatable this year for sure. Baltimore, like you

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touched on, that's going to be an ugly game. That

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late game probably end up a little more moneyline action

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on Baltimore. But it's the question marks with that team

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that game early or else there'll be a lot of

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live parlays and teas into the two later games.

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Speaker 1: All right, Uh, I think that Brow wants to know

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what tools do you use to research a game? My gosh,

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there's a million tools out there, Yanni, you want to

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tackle that one for me.

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Speaker 2: I start with the power ratings that I use. That

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starts everything for me in all sports, so that I

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try to create a number before I even look so

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I'm not biased. That's rule number one, and every handicapper

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should do that. If you're handicapping your own stuff, you

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should never look at the price before you create your

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own number. It's like going in the buy a car.

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an idea of what the car should cost. Because he

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could throw a price at you you don't know are

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you getting low balled or not. But if you go

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in knowing this should be twenty five thousand and they're

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asking thirty, then it's too much. Same thing with betting.

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favorite bias Wise, we already assume teammates the favorite. But

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the screen, and you're like, wait, I have team B

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is the favorite, and you look up and teammate is

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the favorite, all of a sudden, you have yourself a

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nice bet to place. So that's one of the tools

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that I think everyone needs to use because you could

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create them yourself. You don't need like any kind of

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expenses to do it, just need a lot of practice.

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Speaker 1: All right, what do you have up for everybody on Monday?

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Kick us off right now?

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Speaker 2: The free steam sheet. The free Steam sheet, And that's it,

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because I'm waiting for my confirmation on the primetime games.

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bro for whatever reason. Now, I think like fourteen and four,

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fourteen and five in the Monday Night Football Sunday Night

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Football over the last how many weeks, and I have

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strong wings again, just waiting to see if I get

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that confirmation then that package will be up. Otherwise, I

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and getting ready for football for this week ahead. So

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those packages will be up today or tomorrow at the

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Speaker 1: All right, Yannie, thank you so much. Big week guys

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ahead of us. Yanni the Greek getting us started with

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the Steam report. Yes we are doing a show on Friday.

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No show on Thanksgiving, but yes we will be will

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be doing a show I'll be hosting. I hope it

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goes well. I will be out of town so as

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we all know, I'm going to be at the Mercy

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of the Wi Fi so but hopefully hopefully will be

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good to go on Friday. So a big night of plays, guys.

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I have my Monday Night Football pack that is up.

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One best bet in NFL, and I went ahead and

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attached as a bonus to NBA props to that. Since

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we only have one prop in NFL and then the

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two NBA plays I love. That's actually gonna turn out

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to be a really nice pack, because I think I'm

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at an NHL prop to that as well. So primetime

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games for whatever reason, I've worked out great this year

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twenty and eleven primetime games when we just do one

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bet on Monday night football, So partner up with us.

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Let's cash on that one. Sadly lost a big play

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yesterday in NFL full disclosure, we'll tell you when we win.

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When we lose Zach charbonnay to go over his rushing

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yards and then Seattle beat Tennessee so bad they only

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held the ball twenty two minutes. It was gross season

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Zwe carries for him and he was averaging five point

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eight yards of carry. He just needed one more carry

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and he would have got there. But nice thing about that,

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there's always tomorrow, and that starts tonight. So join up

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with me. We got one NFL and two NBA props

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as a bonus, and probably we're gonna add an NHL

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as well. All right, let's do some questions the NFL

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Week twelve, and we've got a bonus non NFL. Do

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we need Thursday night football? I was going back and

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looking at Thursday football. If such weird results, these teams

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know if this is just a failed experiment. But sometimes

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the games aren't real good. It's not a real true

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indication of what the teams are. I don't know. Maybe

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some people love, but I guess my question is do

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we need Thursday night football? Next question? How many people

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knew Teddy Bridgewater was still in the NFL? I did not.

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That was that was new to me. So how much

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trouble are the Patriots in big time losses to that

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offensive line? Waiting to see how how bad the injuries are.

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they're left the left side of their offensive line, so

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that is that's that's big trouble. Next question, who's the

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number one wide receiver for Dallas?

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Speaker 3: Mean?

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Speaker 1: Dan Pickens looked like a world beater against your team,

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and Ceedee Lamb just continues to drop the ball, by

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the way, shout out to those guys. So Ceedee Lamb

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apparently missed curfew when he was in Vegas, and then

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Pickens missed the bus. That's why they got benched. So

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I'm sure the coaching staff was like, awesome, we get

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these guys. Next question, is it our prey over? For

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JJ McCarthy, it's not getting better. For JJ McCarthy, it's

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actually getting way way worse. So I don't know what

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the solution is, but when you're regressing as the season

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goes on, that's not good. So and then finally, what

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is going on with Brett the Hitman Heart. If you

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did not see what Brett the Hitman Heart said, then

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just look it up. Anybody that's a wrestling fan and

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knows Brett will be will be stunned. And if you

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know what he said, shout out to you in the chat.

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Let's do where the public one and where the books won?

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Where the books won? These big faves were just disastrous.

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Ravens did not cover Lions, did not cover Seahawks, did

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not cover Your Money Lines did but those spreads the

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books absolutely feasted. Where did the public win? Everyone was

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on Baltimore Under and the packers did get that cover,

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so that's where the public won. But other than that,

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it was pretty big week for the books. Let's dos

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and fantasy football winners and losers. Not a long list here,

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but I'll tell you Caleb Williams. He keeps getting it

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done and if you have him on fantasy, he's been

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a really really nice starter for everybody. And Dj Moore

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looked good yesterday as well. Hunter Henry with the huge game,

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so did Wandel Robinson and Jamiir Gibbs. Holy I believe

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I said that was a top three Fantasy performance for

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a running back. So Jamiir Gibbs has the huge game.

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Manuel Wilson took over the lead role for Green Bay.

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He didn't have like huge chunks, but he just kept

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going at it and going at it and going at it,

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ends up with a really nice stat game. Rashid Rice

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is looking fantastic for the Chiefs and Michael Wilson. I

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don't know what that team's gonna do when Kyler Murray's

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ready to come back, and so is Marvin Harrison. But

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Michael Wilson's been absolute stud, absolutely stud so props and

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fantasy football losers. DeAndre Swift he may have lost that

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job in Chicago fumbles. Then Kyle Manongui gets going, so

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he may have lost that job. Everybody in the Vikings

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we talked, we were terrified of what's gonna happen with

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Justin Jefferson with his numbers and it's it's not looking good.

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Jonathan Taylor bottled up by the Chiefs. They did a

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really good job. And Lamar Jackson, who is clearly not

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healthy dating he's under on rushing props, has been really good.

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And then we talked about Ceede Lamb. Too many drop

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balls for Ceedee Lamb. Pickens caught nine catches on all

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nine of his targets. So all right, those are your

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props and Fantasy football winners and losers. And yes, I'm

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talking about what he said about Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon. Yikes.

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All right, let's bring in Bill crack Man. Bill, were

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you a wrestling guy?

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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning?

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Speaker 1: Were you wrestling guy?

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Speaker 3: When I was a kid.

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Speaker 4: Back in New York and New Jersey, there used to

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be Channel nine used to have wrestling at midnight. This

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is you know, literally fifty years of all them, fifty seven

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so literally, and it was Bob Becklin was the champion

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for like a decade straight. Yeah, yes, it was fun though,

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but uh, I quickly grew out of it in my

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teens and that was it. But however, I did go

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see when I was in Tampa a couple of years back,

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and it was so nice. Brett Hitman Heart was the

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first guy that you know, it was the it was.

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It was in VIP event at the hard Rock in Tampa,

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and I didn't know where, I know the name, I

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know who he was, but he was very nice.

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Speaker 3: And the two.

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Speaker 4: Guys were Rick Flair and Hulk Hogan. That uh, it

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was great. It was a one on one. You got

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to go in and like for like sixty seconds, take

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photos with them, talk to them both and really nice guys.

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Speaker 4: And they gave him an hour talk after to the audience,

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and Rick Flair just got over the sickness.

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Speaker 3: He was really sick.

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Speaker 4: He almost died and it was his first show and

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he told about how Hogan saved his life and how

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uk Hogan loan the money and it was just it

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was really cool and and those guys were so real.

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They were just so so nice. And I was upset

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when Hogan died.

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Speaker 1: And uh, what a story.

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Speaker 3: I was upset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have I have some great photos of those guys,

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and that was a memorable night. They were my brother

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was into wrestling more than me, so so he he was.

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and yeah it was nice. You know.

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Speaker 4: Uh, wrestlers are nice. Certain people are, like certain sports.

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The athletes are really nice. Boxers so nice, boxing guys

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are so compare them to like some of these NBA thugs.

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I mean, I'm you know, I'm I'm unfiltered. That's the

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way I call it.

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Speaker 3: Like it is. Some of these guys are just total

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animals to the fans.

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Speaker 4: But yet, like I was just with Larry Home and

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Michael Moore was three.

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Speaker 3: Of them, Michael Moore, Larry Holmes, gott.

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Speaker 4: And and then and they were nicest can be. I

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was just just with him at a charity event. So nice,

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such good guys and always every single year. Woman seeing

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I was talking to him, I was, uh, and and uh,

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there's just so many guys. Thomas Hitman, hearns, I can't

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go on. And I told you, Larry Holmes, Oh, Sugar,

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Ray Leonard, how can I only fuck I figure Sugarray, Leonard,

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Sugar Ray Leonard, just regular great guys talk to the fans,

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Unlike like.

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Speaker 3: I said, the the NBA clowns. That's that's the way

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying all of them, but my experience

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has been most of them, so it is what it is.

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with basically every single NBA team, and it was it

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was all or nothing. They were the nicest guy in

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the world, or the you didn't want to you didn't

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want to be around him. Like I would say, Dirk

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Nowitzki was one of the nicest guys I ever met.

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He was Oh, he was Oh he was a gem.

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He was Yeah, he was absolutely fantastic. So I won't

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tell the stories about the I will tell the negative stories.

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We'll try and keep it positive on the show here.

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So let's uh, how was how was your weekend?

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Speaker 4: Bill?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Uh? What'd you do?

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Speaker 3: There? You go there? You go pretty cool?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, they were kidding.

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Speaker 4: They were They were so nice to these guys. My

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guy I found the photo. They were so and you know,

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I have to admit it, I didn't know. I didn't

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even get a photo with him. I didn't know who

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heart was. But he was like their manager, I guess

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at one time.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, that was pretty cool. My brother was with him.

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That that's hard right.

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Speaker 1: That is that. Ye, that's Jimmy Mouth. That's Jimmy Mouth

477
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,359
of the South. And I've met and worked with Jimmy

478
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,279
Mouth the South and he is one of the nicest

479
00:24:55,279 --> 00:25:00,400
guys I've ever interacted with. They were so nice and

480
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,359
it's not really a persona. He does talk as much

481
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,440
off outside the ring as he does when he's inside

482
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240
the ring. It was just non stop. He was he

483
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480
was wild man, he was. He was so cool. It

484
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:16,480
was uh and Mike.

485
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: Awesome like that. I love stuff like that. Just great guys,

486
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:22,400
great guys. Ultimate Warrior, I remember him, all.

487
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:22,759
Speaker 3: Right, Mike.

488
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a Uh, I did a show for somebody.

489
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:28,480
And his payment, they gave me an autograph the very

490
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:31,200
first version of the Ultimate Warrior comic book. I've got

491
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,119
it somewhere, I got I Got a Warrior. Yeah. It's

492
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:35,440
so cool, so cool.

493
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:36,319
Speaker 3: So yeah.

494
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: So last week, yeah good, good week plus seven point

495
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,160
one units rolling along again. There's a rating service that

496
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,880
tries to rate tries to rate us, and they I

497
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,240
always tell him they get it so wrong because they

498
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:51,759
don't they just don't go by the proper rating system.

499
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,319
You know.

500
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,319
Speaker 3: I tell all my clients, you.

501
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: Know that maybe you go one unit on an NBA

502
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240
or I don't do NBA sides, an NFL side, but

503
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,279
you're going through to four units on a college basketball game.

504
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,599
You're going two and a half units on an NFL prop.

505
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Like you have to bet. You have to bet the

506
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:09,680
units properly.

507
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,519
Speaker 4: You can't be betting the same amount of money on

508
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,759
an NBA or an NFL side that you are an

509
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,960
NFL prop or better yet, a college basketball game.

510
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: So but if you're going by what I tell yous

511
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:21,799
to do.

512
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,839
Speaker 4: Absolutely last year, last week, I'm sorry, college basketball fourteen

513
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:32,160
and eleven, NFL seven and four, that prop unit wise

514
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,960
it's plus point plus seven point one units. And you know,

515
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,279
I always tell people you have to go by unit size.

516
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: But there's a there's a there's a you.

517
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: Know, a service that all they do is try to

518
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:47,319
make everyone look bad and ruin people's lives and affect

519
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640
their pocketbook, and they just don't know how to rate

520
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,200
the stuff. And it's, you know what I tell like,

521
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,440
but they wouldn't know, you know, they wouldn't know because

522
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,559
unless they're told, and they are told, but they still

523
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:00,000
want to just try to make people look bad under

524
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:01,079
anonymity of course.

525
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: But anyway.

526
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: You know again, like I said, it's just I'm going

527
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,640
to win because I'm betting stuff that's smaller market and

528
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,519
NFL props compared to NFL sides. They put a lot

529
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:19,319
of props out. I'm killing it on the season, killing

530
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,759
it on an NBA props, destroying it, NFL props, winning,

531
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,359
college basketball winning, That's what I do. And this is

532
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,880
my wheelhouse time of the year now. So college basketball,

533
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,119
NFL props, are you kidding me? NBA props all together

534
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,799
in the same week. Oh God, bombs over Tokyo. The

535
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,480
books have no chance, no chance in the long term.

536
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: They have no chance.

537
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,079
Speaker 4: It's the reason why I've been thrown out of many

538
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,640
legalized sports books, stations, Caesars boy. I can go on

539
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,920
and on and on this treasure Island. The big sports

540
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,920
books of course, the Fandols and DraftKings limited the pennies

541
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:04,680
and which is basically thrown out, and local guys forget it.

542
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
I don't even want them anymore. I don't even want them.

543
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,039
I can't even over the years. This is going on

544
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,519
thirty years now for local guys. So you understand, they

545
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,119
just don't like anyone with a pulse. So and the

546
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,920
per head shops that that that run the sports books

547
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,079
in Costa Rica and Panama, on Antigua, they run the

548
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,039
sites for the people. So people, as you guys know,

549
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,640
you probably have some local guys. And what happens with

550
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720
local guys is they're not sitting there like the old days,

551
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:36,440
picking up the phone and writing tickets and saying all right,

552
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,240
what do you want?

553
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:38,599
Speaker 3: Okay, you want this? All right?

554
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: One hundred game, two hundred, this game, writing them down.

555
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,279
They just go to a per head shop. Well short,

556
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:47,680
they're giving them five bucks per player per week to write.

557
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: The business for them.

558
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 4: And literally all they have to do is check on

559
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,519
the account and say and see the action they have

560
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,559
and just do the P and H on sr P

561
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000
and C. They do the payments and pay and collect

562
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,720
every week. But those type of guys, those type of

563
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,079
guys are the guys that I'm getting that I was

564
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:08,359
getting thrown out with for years. I literally don't even

565
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
I don't even mess with him anymore. I'm I'm very

566
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,279
happy doing what I do with media, doing what I

567
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,599
do here on Wager Talk Fox, many different media sources

568
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,759
and UH and bet bet the local casinos that allow me.

569
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,359
I'm getting down some good money, though, I can get down.

570
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,960
I can get down two thousand at circa thousand at

571
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,519
Westgate fifteen hundred, I bet MGM. I can get down

572
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:35,440
like five hundred, five thousand dollars a prop on basketball

573
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,960
and and and NFL props. So I'm happy with that

574
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,079
and done dealing with the local guys that just uh,

575
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,759
they don't pay winners, they don't like winters. So I've

576
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,920
been stiffed out of a lot of money in my life,

577
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000
a lot, and I'm just done doing it.

578
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm done doing it. I'm done doing it. You know,

579
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:53,839
you do the.

580
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,319
Speaker 4: Work, You have partners, you deal with, and they're you know, yeah,

581
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,599
you have to pay the partners. You have to make

582
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:02,079
sure that they get paid. And I'm not getting paid

583
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:06,640
from certain sources. So and you know, uh, you know, listen,

584
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,359
we all have a rabbi to go to. But that's

585
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,039
not it's twenty twenty six year, you know, you know,

586
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:14,759
and we're not going after people, and.

587
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: That's not the way it is.

588
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: Uh today, I'm not trying to go off like a

589
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,319
tough guy, but I mean there's cameras on every corner,

590
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,599
cameras here, camera.

591
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,559
Speaker 3: They forget about it. You can't. There's there's nothing like imagine.

592
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:29,000
It's the opposite. It's actually the opposite that makes me laugh.

593
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,680
It makes me ef and laugh. It's the opposite of

594
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,640
what's supposed to be.

595
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be the book makers and the agents

596
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,440
going after players that don't pay. It's the opposite, though,

597
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,519
it's the opposite. It's the book makers that don't pay.

598
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,000
It's the book makers. It's it's it's it really is.

599
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,799
It makes me want to curse. It's a joke, it

600
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,279
really is.

601
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:50,319
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk a little NBA. I want to get

602
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,039
a want to get a prop that you like. But

603
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,519
do you focus on the same and similar teams, like

604
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,480
like similar players. I mean I like to try and

605
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,640
play the same guys and the same props over and over.

606
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,599
Train that's a nice streak, try and get five and

607
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
two type of streak. So I had I had, I

608
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640
had the dreaded uh at a guy over rebounds and

609
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720
he had three thousand and five minutes. It's like, well,

610
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,799
that one's dead man. So he sat the rest of

611
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,279
the half and then lost by the hook. But yeah,

612
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,599
what guys, have you been seeing some success with recently?

613
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,119
Speaker 4: No, you're right, you're right, it is good to to uh.

614
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,759
But you know, until I made maybe the public knows

615
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:28,079
a little bit more. It is good to pound the

616
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:31,240
same players if you see him going in one direction

617
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:33,799
out again. I heard Gianni say it. Man, he is

618
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,480
so spot on, I have to be blunts. I knew

619
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,400
who Gianni was, but until I joined wager Talk, I

620
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,880
didn't know how astute he was.

621
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: I didn't know how.

622
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: He knows so many things about so many things in

623
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,440
this game.

624
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 3: He's been around. He's been around this uh, this, this

625
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:52,599
this game.

626
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,519
Speaker 4: Like I just said about the local guys and stuff,

627
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,559
he's been around for a long time. That like trends,

628
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,039
you don't want to just go off a trend NBA

629
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,839
prop trend. Oh this guy went under on his points

630
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:05,279
and rebounds the last two games. I don't know.

631
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm want to do that. No, because the book knows

632
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,319
that too. They're gonna adjust or even over adjust. So yeah, no,

633
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:13,759
it he is.

634
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:14,079
Speaker 1: He is.

635
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,119
Speaker 4: He is spot on, spot on about that stuff. So

636
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,720
I do have one for you. I just want to

637
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:21,920
go to the website to make sure it's I put

638
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,400
it up an hour ago and make sure it's the

639
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,720
same line here and Anyway, it's a Derek Queen points

640
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
and assist over twenty ye all right over twenty and

641
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
a half minus one thirty over twenty and a half

642
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:33,759
minus one thirty.

643
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,119
Speaker 3: Going with the rookie here, who's been hot? He's been.

644
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: He's been hot betting thirty you know, literally he's been.

645
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,720
He's been getting thirty plus minutes. And I bet him

646
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,279
a couple of times. So just talking about a certain

647
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,000
player here you go. So he's been thirty plus minutes

648
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,160
his last three games. A great spot for Queen against

649
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,839
the Bulls, who they have. They literally rank last in

650
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,039
paint defense where they already does most of his work.

651
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,119
Speaker 3: Plus his total is really high. It was like two

652
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,000
forty four. I seen it earlier.

653
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: So they're expecting a lot of points here, and she'd

654
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
get a lot of points and assist opportunities in this one.

655
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:19,920
So over Derek Queen points assists over twenty and a half. Yeah, yeah,

656
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,359
so there's a there's a perfect example. I wasn't planning

657
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,480
to say that I bet them but in the past

658
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,680
with it. But yeah, there's a perfect example of that.

659
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:31,119
So go over on his and and smoking hot on

660
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,400
these props. I didn't know the record. You think I

661
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,359
know records like I have to get off my assistant.

662
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:37,880
I send them, I bet them, and I go so

663
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
and that's one thing. One other thing I do. So

664
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:44,160
I don't bet the thing first. You know, I just

665
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000
told you I can bet like five thousand on props.

666
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,839
I don't bet it and then send it after it moves.

667
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:50,920
That's that's bullshit. I would never do that.

668
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: I send the props, send them, send.

669
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: Them to the public. And and by the way, if

670
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:58,839
I don't get it in, great, I still have a bet.

671
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,039
You know what the bet is. If it wins, the

672
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,640
customers realize it, and I'll get more business. So that's

673
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,280
the way I work, and it's been it's been going

674
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,880
really well.

675
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,679
Speaker 3: Listen, I know what I do on props every year.

676
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,519
I know why all those local guys stiff me over

677
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,559
the years. It's for props. And it's for betting early

678
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:16,960
in the week.

679
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,519
Speaker 4: By the way, So if you're betting something now Monday

680
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,719
morning for next week's college college football or yet even

681
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,480
pro football, if you bet like like this morning, I've

682
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,119
seen a major line move on Dallas. So the Cowboys

683
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:35,480
plus three and a half minus one ten. If you're

684
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,519
betting that early morning and you see the market and

685
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:39,639
you're chasing some steam.

686
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: Well it sits in the account there all week. You know,

687
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,119
your local BM looks at bookmaker that is looks at it,

688
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,360
and he sees it, and he says, look at is.

689
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,960
This guy got three and a half on this game.

690
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,760
It's three. This guy got five and a half on

691
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920
this game, it's four. And they say, well, what are

692
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,800
we what are we doing here? We're you know, we're

693
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,960
having a local shop here.

694
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,599
Speaker 4: Following they start yelling at the local shops and at

695
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:01,800
the local guys, the local.

696
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,519
Speaker 3: Place that the PPH guy.

697
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: They you know, they say, well listen, we'll alert you

698
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,400
whenever this guy plays steam. So sure enough, that's what

699
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,320
makes that get try that's what makes you get in trouble.

700
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,679
So not that you don't want to bet games that move,

701
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,320
because you do want closing line value, but it's better

702
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000
to bet something same day of the game, a college

703
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,480
basketball game, college football game. This way, there's a lot

704
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:27,800
of stuff going on that same day.

705
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: It mixes in.

706
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,639
Speaker 4: It's hard for a book to look at every single bet.

707
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,000
A book maker because he has so many different customers,

708
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:35,719
he wants to check what he has at risk or

709
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,239
exposure for the day. But with college football and NFL

710
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,599
and stuff like that, sometimes you do have to get

711
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,800
ahead of the line. So you do have to play

712
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,679
with shops that keep that keep you playing here South

713
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,159
Point Westgate Circa. I could bet anything early in the week,

714
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
don't matter that they take the games off me and

715
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,239
they move them, though you can guarantee they do move

716
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,599
the game.

717
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: So there's a little little you know.

718
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:05,599
Speaker 4: Peek into my world and peek into the world of

719
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,480
an advantage better that actually sells games. It's very very

720
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,800
hard to do. It's very hard for an advantage better

721
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,159
to sell games. So it's it's an interesting thing. Most

722
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,280
people sell games and just stays there the whole day.

723
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:20,400
It's the reason why I was having a hard time.

724
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,639
Sometimes people got to keep their notifications on. On wager Talk,

725
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,960
you have to keep your notification emails on.

726
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is. Right now, we're working

727
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,800
on an app.

728
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna have an app out eventually with the games

729
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,840
where you can get the notification run on your phone.

730
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,119
Speaker 3: But you have to have the notification on because my

731
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,239
stuff will move.

732
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: But however, I've been noticing, you know, I follow things

733
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,960
real careful I've been noticing not too bad with wager talk.

734
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,639
Not too bad of movement out there, and it's still

735
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,480
available for a couple hours after the email goes out.

736
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,719
So it has been. It's been an interesting run here.

737
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,079
That was my big that my main concern Andy was joining.

738
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:03,840
When joining, I was like, I want a customer, the

739
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,360
customers to get an obtainable line. You know, I don't

740
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,559
do this bullshit where people say, oh, bet this line

741
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,119
at hard Rock Florida, bet.

742
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: This line at Bet three sixty five.

743
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't do that. I give it attainable line. I

744
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,679
use the DraftKings and fan Duel, that's what most people have.

745
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000
I'll use the maybe the Chris, I'll do a combination

746
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:26,719
of all of them. I want the customers to get

747
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,079
an obtainable line. That's my biggest thing. I know I'm

748
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:33,480
gonna miss out on many many units that pad the

749
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,039
record by saying, oh, you can get this at one

750
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:37,079
single sports book.

751
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: I refuse to do that. I refuse to do that.

752
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Monday Night football tonight.

753
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:49,159
Speaker 3: I don't know those playing. No, I'm joking. I'm not

754
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,360
being funny Monday Night Listen.

755
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: You guys don't want to think about NFL sides and

756
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,000
NFL primetime games. Just because they're on TV does not

757
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,639
mean anything to me. It doesn't mean, like I know,

758
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,119
everyone's gotta have a bet. Though I have literally waved

759
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,840
the white flag, the white towel because I just know

760
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,320
what sports betting is. I know what the humany makeup is,

761
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,400
I know the dynamic of us. We just can't just

762
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480
sit and watch a game. Sam Fran, Carolina. We gotta

763
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,320
have some action on it. It's the reason why I

764
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,559
say everyone should have a season win, bet on a

765
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:24,280
team or something.

766
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: Are you can even going right now?

767
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 4: I know apps like bet MGM, the Caesars, and I

768
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,159
know these apps have You can bet futures right now

769
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,920
over underseason wins. Throw five or ten bucks on a

770
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,239
forty nine ers or Carolina over on the for the

771
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,880
season's way.

772
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,519
Speaker 3: You can root on the game or something. Don't just

773
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,599
fire on a side because you think you know.

774
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,679
Speaker 4: Or a teaser like tonight's game, easy teaser game, I understand,

775
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,320
I understand that the game's over already in many people's eyes.

776
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Sam Fran minus a half in a teaser.

777
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: Minus one and a half, bringing it down through the

778
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,719
key numbers of seven and three.

779
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 4: Well, the problem with that is you laying a dollar

780
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
thirty five or more on a teaser.

781
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,519
Speaker 3: In the end, that's unbeatable. So I don't even give

782
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:04,400
out teasers because they're.

783
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,599
Speaker 4: Unbeatable unless you're playing with the local shops and they

784
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:08,880
take it a six point q's a minus one ten

785
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,320
or even minus one twenty. You can't go up higher

786
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,760
than that. But anyway, I'll have a prop bet probably

787
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,480
on the game. But that's about it. There's no sweat

788
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,480
equity on the side or.

789
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: Total for me. What we'll have them up later air

790
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,639
Wader Talk, all.

791
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:26,519
Speaker 1: Right, so Bill will have his plays up. Tell everyone

792
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,559
else which got going on for for the today.

793
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:30,079
Speaker 3: I went over.

794
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: I went over to the wager Talk site just to

795
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,119
check to see what they had up for me. And yeah,

796
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,000
it looks like there's a there's a you know, nice

797
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:40,800
packages there. Still they're they're talking about my twenty twenty

798
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,840
eight and fifteen NBA prop run.

799
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna win on props. It's that simple. Props is

800
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,519
really I'm the prop meister. I'm gonna win on the

801
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,079
NFL and NBA props. So join us over there, like I.

802
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 4: Said, join me for a long term package, though anything

803
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,840
can happen one day. You want to join one day

804
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,280
just to you know, spend some money for a little

805
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,079
bit of money for one day. Join me for a week,

806
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:05,880
join me for a month, join me to the end

807
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,679
of the super Bowl. We're gonna have super Bowl props.

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Just email the site and we'll we'll we'll make hip

809
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,239
a package till the end of the super Bowl and

810
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,920
and uh to the end of the NBA season. Really too.

811
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:22,119
Speaker 4: NBA props are you know, they go until until May and.

812
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: So there we go. That's it, Andy, you know, I mean,

813
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,920
I'm not a good salesman.

814
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 4: I just talk about what's going on, talk about like

815
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,559
life what it is, and people can make their own decisions.

816
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,159
But you know, if you want to win long term,

817
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280
let me and my team do the work for you.

818
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,840
You guys work forty fifty hours a week. Just get

819
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,639
the emails and fire and gets for on your local book.

820
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: I love it, love it, awesome stuff. Bill, Thank you

821
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360
very much. Check your Twitter DMS. I'm gonna send you

822
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:53,360
a message after this show. Everybody. All right, oh, all right,

823
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,199
I figured out how to change the name in the

824
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,639
In the chat here, you click on the on the

825
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,239
on the upper right of your YouTube channel. You click

826
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,480
on your photo or your avatar and it says view

827
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,440
your channel. You click on view your channel, and then

828
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,119
you click on customize and you can change the handle

829
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,519
so you can put something like Andy is truly awesome,

830
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,039
like I did in there. So that's how you can

831
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:20,360
change it YouTube. I don't know why YouTube change it,

832
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,119
but you can go into your channel and get it

833
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,519
that way. We can all see your your the way

834
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,639
we can all see your your real names, because i mean,

835
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,840
let's face it, r J five seven eight is not

836
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,960
nearly as sexy as seen as a real name. So

837
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,039
all right, let's bring in Steve Merrill. We had a

838
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,639
lot to get to Steve. Happy Monday, Steve, how was

839
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:42,639
your weekend doing?

840
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: Well?

841
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,159
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go back and listen to what

842
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:44,559
you just said.

843
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: Again.

844
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,639
Speaker 5: I didn't realize you're talking about the actual like comments

845
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,519
on the main because yeah, mine does that. I've got

846
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,400
a couple counts I used to pity if I'm on

847
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,360
my laptop or my phone and they're all like Steve

848
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,079
Merrill's zero five two nine dash by five five, But

849
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:57,960
it says my name, so I assume people know it's

850
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,159
me replying back, because as you know, I do read

851
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:02,039
the comments and replied back, so that's good to know.

852
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, it's really easy. You just click on your

853
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,039
click on your profile, hit view channel, and then customize

854
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:10,559
and we'll see where to change. All right, you got

855
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:12,559
three games of break Down Force. Let's get started with

856
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,800
Monday Night Football. We got Panthers and forty nine Ers.

857
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,000
I already have the Panthers plus the points locked in

858
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480
for my super contest pick. So I'm hoping you're on

859
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:25,960
the right side and they are the same side with me.

860
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,400
Maybe maybe not. How do you break down this Panthers

861
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,280
forty nine Ers game?

862
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: Cracking up?

863
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: Because I don't use Instagram a lot, I do put

864
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,320
some wager talk stuff up there and it popped up.

865
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,199
It was a nineties skid from SNL. Chris Farley was

866
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,960
doing the Monday Night Football drunk and whatever, and Will

867
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,840
Ferrell was the producer ABC, and it's like said, now

868
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,679
what he said, Monday Night's all I think of now.

869
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,039
But this was a matchup that would not have been

870
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,239
very good back then, and still not consider too well

871
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,400
of a match up here with the Panthers Niners. But

872
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,519
I think the Panthers are alive dog in this one.

873
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:58,960
Of course, did a standalone video for this, as I

874
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,840
do for all this Sunday Night Monday Night games. Gave

875
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,519
you the Rams last night for free in my Sunday

876
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:08,119
Night video, this past Thursday, the Texans for free now eleven,

877
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,079
and two of those Thursday Prime videos. We're gonna put

878
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,079
it on the line because there are three Thursday NFL

879
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,400
games this week for Thanksgiving. Yet technically the prime game

880
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,480
is the Friday game between the Bears and Eagles, a

881
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,360
little technicality there, so I will have all those games

882
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840
for you this week Thanksgiving week. So click subscribe, click

883
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,840
the bill for instant alerts. If you want a deep

884
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,519
dive in this game, go back and watch the ten

885
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:29,840
minute video. But one thing I point out in that

886
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
video and also my Fade the Public video, is that

887
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:34,239
the forty nine ers one of the most public sides

888
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,000
this week, and by the way, Buffalo on Thursday was

889
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,960
maybe the most public side this week. But I don't

890
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:41,599
use the Thursday games for the fade the public. And

891
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,000
then yesterday we had two of them, Detroit and Seattle.

892
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Detroit never in it. Seattle did cover, So we'll see

893
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,199
what the public ends up doing. They're currently one and

894
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,079
two this week, and this is the fourth game this

895
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,119
week that was very public, and I do think this

896
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:54,760
is a spot where we can fade the public for

897
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,719
a couple reasons. First of all, adjusted line value. You know,

898
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,440
one of the reasons fade in the public works long

899
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,000
term is good. If everyone's on one side, you get

900
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480
a little extra line value, and that is the case.

901
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: Now.

902
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: This line was open six six and a half a

903
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,039
week ago. It was seven for some of this week.

904
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,320
Now it's pretty much seven and a half across the board.

905
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,239
If you like the Niners, you probably missed the minus seven.

906
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,119
If you like the Panthers, you step in down and

907
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,239
get that plus seven and a half. There's about a

908
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,800
three to four percent chances game lands exactly on that

909
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,599
key number of seven, so it's seven and a half

910
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,800
or more. I do think there's some value here with

911
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,960
the Panthers, and I also like the matchup. Carolina flying

912
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,760
a little bit under the radar now six and five

913
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,159
straight up, The Niners are just seven and four, and

914
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,840
San Francisco is actually alternated wins and losses going all

915
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,360
the way back to mid September. Their last eight or

916
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,519
nine games it's been win loss, win, loss, win loss,

917
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,480
and of course they won at Arizona last week, so

918
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,519
we'll see if that trade continues with a loss tonight.

919
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,679
And Carolina also has been a feisty little underdog here

920
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,239
in recent weeks. After that one and three straight up start,

921
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,800
they have quietly gone five and two straight up and

922
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,840
against the spread their last seven, and I believe four

923
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,880
of those five wins have come as an underdog. I

924
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,480
think Carolina's alive here plus seven and a half or more,

925
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,280
and we'll fade the public in this one tonight on Monday.

926
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, let's go, let's go. Come on Panthers. That's

927
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920
a phrase I never thought i'd hear, Come on Panthers.

928
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 5: Bryce Young, by the way, and he coming off maybe

929
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,440
his best game ever last week. You know, party returned. Also,

930
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,800
I failed to mention that he had three touchdowns no picks.

931
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,960
Bryce Young threw for over four hundred yards, three touchdowns,

932
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:26,280
no picks, So we'll see if he's finally turning the

933
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,440
corner after being a pretty week number one pick.

934
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bryce Young and Jacoby Brissett tearing it up as expects.

935
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,559
We live in Steve, by the way. How's that for

936
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:39,400
like one of the best pieces of trivia, like moving forward,

937
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,840
like who holds the record for the most completion in

938
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,079
a game in NFL history And it's Jacoby Brissett. That's crazy. Yeah,

939
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:51,239
all right, let's go to the NBA Cavaliers Raptors. I

940
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,519
love this Cavs team. They were one of my favorite

941
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:59,880
overs for season win totals. And this Raptors team, there's

942
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,199
oping there. I don't know what's there, but I feel

943
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:05,079
like there's something there there. They're not a terrible team here,

944
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,719
and that's kind of what this line is telling you.

945
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,039
Cleveland's only minus two and a half here over under

946
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,199
two thirty six. How do you break down Cavs and Raptors.

947
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this game is literally lighting up right now

948
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,000
in the Odds Logic screen as we're doing this live

949
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,400
around twelve forty five Eastern on Monday, both the side

950
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
and total. I didn't see a ton on the injury report.

951
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:24,599
Sam Merrill two ours two l's unfortunately is questionable with

952
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,400
an illness, and we do know Merrill moves the line,

953
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,760
so maybe that's what this is. But Cleveland's a little

954
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,320
bit of money coming in on It looks like Cleveland

955
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,719
now they've gone for two two and a half up

956
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,320
to three across the board, and that total is definitely dropping.

957
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,280
It opened as high as two thirty nine. You mentioned

958
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440
two thirty six. Well now it's two thirty five as

959
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,599
of a couple of minutes ago. Lighting up like a

960
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,559
Christmas tree this Thanksgiving week on the Odds Logic screen.

961
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,920
So money coming in on Cleveland and on the under Toronto.

962
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,599
Twelve and five on the season, a little bit of

963
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,480
a surprise and star at the Cavaliers. As you said,

964
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,159
twelve and six, probably where they should be, but keep

965
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:58,039
in mind they've done more damage recently. They got off

966
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:59,880
to a little bit of a shaky start this season,

967
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,559
going just three and three straight up. They won four

968
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:04,079
straight and then they lost two out of three, but

969
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:07,119
they've now won four their last five. But they aren't

970
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,440
coming off of no rest situation after that home win

971
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,519
against the Clippers yesterday on Sunday. Really streaky over underteam.

972
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,239
They went over their first two games this year, then

973
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,440
five straight unders, and then we had six straight overs,

974
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,360
and now we've had five straight unders. So the under

975
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,960
money is coming in here again. Unrested situation. One thing

976
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,119
Cleveland does do play do well is play good defense.

977
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:31,519
They've got a lot of size down low, and I

978
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:33,119
think that's why we're seeing a little bit of money

979
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:35,159
on Cleveland, and it probably is correlated to that side

980
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:38,320
as well as far as Toronto. This team I mentioned

981
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,760
twelve and five, it's pretty impressive considered they started just

982
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,119
one in four this year and they have quietly won

983
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,239
what is it, eleven of their last twelve games straight up,

984
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,920
including a current seven game win streak. So I'm not

985
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,679
sure I'm in a hurry to fade a team at

986
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,199
home dog on a seven game win streak. But they

987
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,559
also have no rest, but they stayed at home against Brooklyn.

988
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Big step up in class though for Toronto in this game,

989
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,440
after being a double digit favorite at home yesterday, now

990
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,960
they're a slight dog. Meanwhile, Cleveland, coming off the La

991
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:07,960
Clipper game, one of the tougher teams in the league

992
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,800
and now a slight road favorite. I can understand the

993
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,440
money coming in on Cleveland and the under I would

994
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,360
probably prefer to have Cleveland here, even though Toronto has

995
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,880
been red hot. I think it's a big stuff up

996
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,119
in class for the Raptors. We'll take the better team

997
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:19,760
here in the caves. Late of minus three, and I

998
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,559
think that does correlate to the under two to thirty

999
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:23,400
five as well as you're the better defensive squad.

1000
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: All right, Cavaliers and Raptors, We're going to move to

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college basketball Saint John's Iowa State. Before you do that,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. College basketball Saint John's Iowa State.

1026
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,679
Tell me about these teams. We got a pretty short

1027
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,599
line here minus two and a half over under one

1028
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:38,960
fifty eight and a half.

1029
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Speaker 5: Yeah, first thing I'll say is this Thanksgiving a week,

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will show you where all these games are taking place.

1036
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It'll show you show you the kind of the brackets

1037
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,119
they're in to say, maybe you know some possible look

1038
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:00,159
aheads and whatnot. And this is one of the those

1039
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,639
neutral court games. It's the Players Era Championship in Las Vegas, Nevada.

1040
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Nicelob Ultra Light arena. Tons of games in this tournament.

1041
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,360
Some are at the Ultra Light Arena like this one,

1042
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,800
some are at the MGM Grand Arena, this one by

1043
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the way, at four third Easterns. We got a lot

1044
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,760
of daytime action as well. And we have seen the

1045
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,880
money so far come in on Iowa State. They opened

1046
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,599
as a brief one point favorite. Now it's two and

1047
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:24,920
a half even some three starting to show out. There

1048
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,519
some money coming in on Iowa State. Not much moving

1049
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,159
on the total a little bit to the under one

1050
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,599
fifty nine and a half down to one fifty eight,

1051
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,079
one fifty seven and a half. So Iowa State and

1052
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,480
the under has seen the initial action in this game.

1053
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400
And these are two really good defensive teams. They both

1054
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,519
ranked top fifteen defensive efficiency this season. They're both top

1055
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,880
sixteen ranked teams overall. Of course, we always look at

1056
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,559
tempo when we look at these games, and Saint John's

1057
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:50,400
does like to play up tempo even though they play

1058
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,199
good Tenation's defense. They do it fast, full court pressure

1059
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,559
with Patino and Iowa States kind of what I call

1060
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,599
a neutral team, and what I look for at the

1061
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,840
neutral teams is when they play down teams, they probably

1062
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480
get slowed down. When they play faster teams, they speed

1063
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,760
up a little bit. So it'll be interesting to see

1064
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,199
if Iowa State likes this tempo. They currently rank them

1065
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,320
the top third in tempo, so I think they will.

1066
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,519
So I'm not in a hurry to get on the

1067
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:14,559
under money, but I can understand the move from one

1068
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,199
to fifty nine down to one to fifty seven and

1069
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,559
a half because it is a neutral arena, first game there,

1070
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,159
the sightlines and shooting sometimes can be different, and it's

1071
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,239
a pretty big total. Obviously, one fifty seven and a

1072
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,119
half for two good defensive teams is high, but I

1073
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:28,280
would lean towards Iowa State. I agree with that move

1074
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,639
from minus one to minus three. I think they're the

1075
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:34,079
better overall team. And Willy Mary Tribe hung within three

1076
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,079
with Saint John's last Saturday a couple of weeks ago.

1077
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,280
I think I've blown up with like thirty two or something.

1078
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:41,400
But Saint John's has been vulnerable at times this season.

1079
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,519
They've underachieved a little bit at times this year. I

1080
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,480
actually took a shot with them against Alabama's, a stancial favorite,

1081
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,280
back in Game two, and they lost outright. So that

1082
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,719
was a real red flag for me whenever a team

1083
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,000
is in what I think is a good spot and

1084
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,800
then loses outright, And that did carry over as I

1085
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,400
mentioned that William Mary game is they're only up a

1086
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,599
like three and a half mental thirty three point win,

1087
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,519
and then they beat up on a bed buck Nell

1088
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,800
team in their most recent game. Iowa State hasn't exactly

1089
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,079
been battle tested either, but the one good team they played,

1090
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:10,079
Mississippi State, they handle rather easily by sixteen points. I

1091
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:11,840
think that the better squad right now, and I agree

1092
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,480
with that line move. Take a look at Iowa State

1093
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:15,920
minus three that goes at four thirty eastern in Vegas

1094
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today on Monday.

1095
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Speaker 1: All right, Steve Merril, thank you very much. Have a

1111
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,320
big week do all around the world. Then we're going

1112
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,400
to break down the Nuggets and the Grizzlies, so let's

1113
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,480
do some free plays. We'll go to the NFL tonight.

1114
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,639
It's looking like a Bryce Young over two oh six

1115
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:11,880
and a half passing. This is just too low. I

1116
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,280
know you guys mentioned some of you mentioned Shadur Sanders.

1117
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:18,039
We actually cashed for clients Shadur Sanders over his passing.

1118
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,159
His passed THO was like one to fifty eight. It's

1119
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,159
just way too low. I feel the same way about

1120
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,519
this one, mostly because the defense are going up by

1121
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:27,079
This is forty nine ers that since Fred Warner's injury,

1122
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,800
given up two hundred and fifty six passing per game.

1123
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,440
Since Fred Warner's injury, every quarterback except Jackson Dart has

1124
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:35,519
gone over this total. So give me Bryce Young to

1125
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:39,559
go over his passing as a strong lean NBA Pacers Pistons.

1126
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:41,840
Duncan Robinson over ten and a half points. He's been

1127
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,400
really good recently, thirteen plus points in seven straight, playing

1128
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:51,000
thirty one point nine minutes per game, making over four

1129
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,280
shots per game, and three of those are three pointers.

1130
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,360
And the Pacers afll on defense give up twenty four

1131
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,639
points a game to small forward. So Duncan Robinson over

1132
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:01,199
his point and then we'll go to the Nets and

1133
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:03,280
the next Jalen Brunson over two and a half rebounds

1134
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,840
really low here, Nets give up five rebounds per game

1135
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:08,440
to point guinds. Brunson has gone over in four straight

1136
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,239
and he's averaging six point six rebound chances this season

1137
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,719
per game, so I kind of expected this number to

1138
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,039
be three and a half. So I think we're getting

1139
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:19,880
a free rebound here on Jalen Brunson. All right, let's

1140
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:27,239
break down the Nuggets and the Grizzlies. Denver Nuggets minus

1141
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,119
eight and a half against the Memphis Grizzlies over under

1142
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:33,079
sits at two thirty two and a half. We talked

1143
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:36,519
about this Grizzlies team last week, what if not having

1144
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,679
job Moran, there was a little bit of addition by subtraction,

1145
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,480
and sure enough, what's happened. The Grizzlies have won two

1146
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:47,039
games in a row. Granted was against Sacramento and Dallas,

1147
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:50,559
but that's a huge win by big margin against Sacramento,

1148
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,880
then a six point win against Dallas. And meanwhile, you

1149
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,880
have a Denver Nuggets team that they added depth to

1150
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,639
their team, and they need it already because Aaron Gordon

1151
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,079
is nursing a hamstring. He's going to be out for

1152
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,079
this game. And you look at this Nuggets team. They're

1153
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,960
coming off a loss to Sacramento, and it's kind of interesting.

1154
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,639
You look at who the Nuggets lose to. They're in

1155
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,599
letdown spots, so they lose to Chicago by three, they

1156
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:18,159
lose to Sacramento, and then they also lost at Portland. Like,

1157
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:20,719
those teams are not awful, but they're certainly not on

1158
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,400
the caliber of like, for example, Houston, which was a

1159
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,920
team that Denver beat. So I look at this Denver

1160
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,039
team and without Aaron Gordon, you're getting a lot of

1161
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:34,559
this Jokic and valanchunis a double lineup, which is a

1162
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,880
lot of fun to watch. But I just don't think

1163
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,639
they're in the mode of trying to beat up teams

1164
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,880
really really bad Jokic has been spectacular, but I could

1165
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,760
see a little bit of a letdown spot. Edie has

1166
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,239
looked fantastic for the Grizzlies, so I like the Grizzlies

1167
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,920
to keep this one close. They just looked a little

1168
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,039
bit better without John Morano. They're gonna be missing a

1169
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:56,480
few people, but eight and a half kind of feels

1170
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,360
like a little bit of a look ahead spot for Denver.

1171
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,000
So I will take the Grizzlies plus eight and a

1172
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:04,360
half and for a couple of props, I don't see

1173
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,119
Santy al Dama's points number when it comes out. He's

1174
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,239
been on fire with John Morant out of the lineup,

1175
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,840
so I would be looking at him, and I would

1176
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,559
also be looking at Peyton Watson to go over his rebounds.

1177
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:18,320
He stepped in nicely and has gone over this rebounding

1178
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,559
total of five and a half in every game that

1179
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,880
Aaron Gordon has been out of. So there's a couple

1180
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free props and a lean to the side for the

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Grizzlies and the Nuggets. And once again tonight we have

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our Monday Night Football best bet that is up and

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be playing tonight and I think we're gonna have an

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NHL added out as well. So that turned out to

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be a really really nice pack. We're twenty and eleven

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in NFL primetime games, looking to make that twenty one

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and eleven. So primetime games has just been one of

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the bright spots this year in the NFL season. So

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partner up with us, jump on board. That's over at

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much guys for join us, and we're gonna do it

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again tomorrow and we're gonna start getting you ready for

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Thanksgiving again. The schedule for this week, we will be

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on Tuesday and Wednesday off Thursday, but then we will

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be here for football Friday. I will be out of town,

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but I'll be hosting hopefully from the Airbnb, so we

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should out a good, good weeks of shows. So thanks

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Ruch for joining us. Make sure you hit the like

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button subscribe to the YouTube channel. Let's have a big

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night and we'll see everyone tomorrow. Take care