Speaker 1: And closer.
Speaker 2: A big day in the history of Dallas Fort Worth
Speaker 2: as the Dallas Mavericks have the number one pick in
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft. And it's all happening tonight right here
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Speaker 1: You haven't heard Skin with us in a minute.
Speaker 2: Look, look, guys, you can see Skin's getting his TV
Speaker 2: makeup down there.
Speaker 3: He is getting makeup on. Look at getting make up
Speaker 3: right there? So difficult.
Speaker 1: He's demanding some really hot pink lipstick.
Speaker 3: What's so happy?
Speaker 2: So happy down there? She's getting home made up. That
Speaker 2: voice is Max Rogers. My son is here with us,
Speaker 2: hanging out with us. She's on the live mic hanging
Speaker 2: out and Christina and Kat and myself. But we're looking
Speaker 2: at Skins getting his makeup on. He's gonna be on
Speaker 2: the TV simulcast tonight. We'll have that same TV simual
Speaker 2: cast right here. On ninety seven point one the Eagle.
Speaker 2: But this is a big deal. This doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2: And if you think about it, for a city that
Speaker 2: was devastated, devastated by the Luca trade, a fully self
Speaker 2: inflicted wound.
Speaker 1: It didn't have to happen. You didn't have to trade Luca.
Speaker 1: They traded Luca and did.
Speaker 2: Not get a fair return back for the trade, and
Speaker 2: then didn't even have.
Speaker 3: To wait a year. The very next.
Speaker 2: Offseason, they somehow lucked out and got the number one
Speaker 2: pick in the NBA draft. And not in a draft
Speaker 2: where it doesn't matter. Sometimes you get the number one
Speaker 2: pick and there's like, oh, it could be an even
Speaker 2: number of these five guys. No, they got the number
Speaker 2: one pick. When a guy's coming out that is heralded
Speaker 2: as an absolute phenom, sports god, a guy who can
Speaker 2: impact you, know, your your your franchise for the next
Speaker 2: fifteen seasons. A guy who's an absolute cold blooded killer
Speaker 2: who will dunk on your soul and plays both ways,
Speaker 2: plays defense, plays offense. Like he's a sophomore and high
Speaker 2: school and they're like, he's gonna he's the number one
Speaker 2: prospect of the country. Then he's a junior he's still
Speaker 2: the number one. Then he's a senior, still the number one.
Speaker 2: Then he goes to college plays here he's still the
Speaker 2: number one prospect on the planet. And the Mavericks lucked
Speaker 2: into that on the heels of shooting themselves in the
Speaker 2: Foot and Luca trade.
Speaker 3: You can't make this stuff up. It's so unreal.
Speaker 4: The basketball gods love us so much. I guess they
Speaker 4: just felt bad for us.
Speaker 5: Right, they saw the fans just like, you know that
Speaker 5: that feeling. But like for it to be this year too,
Speaker 5: Like it makes a difference because, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't think the casual, average Joe or the average
Speaker 5: Kevin me would know number one pick in last year's drafting.
Speaker 1: Oh that is it.
Speaker 6: He was just some guy from France, Max Zachary.
Speaker 5: I believe, yeah, Max would know, you know, Like that's
Speaker 5: like I followed the league fairly closely.
Speaker 1: But it was it was a whatever draft, right, Like, yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Knew winby a couple of years ago. That's a name.
Speaker 5: We knew Anthony Edwards a few years ago, but like
Speaker 5: this is this is different and I just don't I
Speaker 5: don't think a lot of people have seen him play.
Speaker 5: I mean, college people are watching college basketball. They used
Speaker 5: to like, you really love sports, you have, but he casual.
Speaker 5: People haven't seen this dude play.
Speaker 3: But he's a guy.
Speaker 2: And dude, since Skin's not here and my son Max
Speaker 2: Rodgers here, give us a scanning report Max on Cooper
Speaker 2: Flag as a player.
Speaker 6: Cooper Flag is, I mean, it's one of those guys
Speaker 6: who you just watching the game coming in you don't
Speaker 6: really know who's good, who's bad, who's the star player?
Speaker 6: You will know that he's the star player on a
Speaker 6: team that happened to do Duke is full of five stars,
Speaker 6: are full of big time players. He could have win, Like, oh,
Speaker 6: this guy's a great recruit. This guy's a great recruit.
Speaker 6: Cooper Flag is just a dominating player. That's the best
Speaker 6: way to put it.
Speaker 3: Just he just dominates.
Speaker 1: I think you're better than Skin.
Speaker 5: I mean, let's know, yeah, Skin is nothing if not replaceable.
Speaker 3: I think we're but in time.
Speaker 2: So we're at the American Airline Center again, thank you,
Speaker 2: k Post and fans are now filing in. Doors open
Speaker 2: a few minutes ago, and there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of people here.
Speaker 1: The thinking there anywhere.
Speaker 2: Between eight and ten thousand MAP fans coming down here
Speaker 2: today to be to be here to watch all of
Speaker 2: this happen. Are piling they are piling in, and you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a cathartic healing situation. The
Speaker 2: minute Cooper Flag's name is announced, this crowd is going
Speaker 2: to lose their minds. And I think it's gonna go
Speaker 2: a long way to helping putting the trade behind for
Speaker 2: you know, for a.
Speaker 1: Lot of fans.
Speaker 4: I'm already we don't know the schedule for next year, right,
Speaker 4: do we know their first game yet? Okay, because that's
Speaker 4: all I can think about already. I'm like, when's the
Speaker 4: first MAVs game? When will we get to see him
Speaker 4: play with everyone?
Speaker 6: That's great?
Speaker 3: This is great, all right there, it's a real party.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 1: It's a party now there.
Speaker 2: They're making announcements here and letting fans know what's gonna
Speaker 2: be going on. And we're telling you the fans are
Speaker 2: set up on one side of the state and they're
Speaker 2: looking at a huge stage at center court and it's
Speaker 2: our boys skin right there with Followell and Ted Emrick
Speaker 2: and they're going to be holding down your coverage night
Speaker 2: and laying him down there? Man, why is he standing
Speaker 2: he's standing up, he's kind of putting his pants right
Speaker 2: in Followell's face.
Speaker 5: Surely appropriate and as we're used to him violating.
Speaker 2: HR regulations, he's kind of doing a Captain Morgan like
Speaker 2: lifting one leg up on follow Well there, But man,
Speaker 2: this is such a special day. So what's a special
Speaker 2: night for Dallas Fort worth it? You know, we were
Speaker 2: talking about how rare this is. Mark McGuire nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 2: Troy Iigman nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know.
Speaker 2: Page buckets more recently for the Dallas Wings, But in
Speaker 2: my history of being a fan of local sports, I mean,
Speaker 2: this has just really happened twice prior to page Buckets,
Speaker 2: and you know each time it delivered. My Mark McGuire
Speaker 2: was a phenomenal player for the Mavericks. Yeah, led the
Speaker 2: league in scoring, I believe, or flirted with it many
Speaker 2: many years. And then Trougman brought three Super Bowls to
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. But man, listening to Ted Emert get us
Speaker 2: excited about that got me.
Speaker 5: Felt, uh yeah, And we're ten feet away from CBS
Speaker 5: Sports is Avery Johnson, former Dallas Mavericks coach, played in
Speaker 5: the league for a long time for the Spurs, was
Speaker 5: the head coach at Alabama for a while, and he
Speaker 5: just kind of from where we're at up here on
Speaker 5: this dock in section one oh one, looking down and
Speaker 5: he goes, this is pretty cool, man, I'm glad they're
Speaker 5: doing that. And he seems like, yeah, pumped about this.
Speaker 5: That was kind of neat. Well we lived it, but like,
Speaker 5: you know, this is pretty excitement.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know they've had small draft parties before when
Speaker 2: you got the twelve pick or something.
Speaker 3: Dude, you know, just you know.
Speaker 5: You know, when they got Derek Lively. I was at
Speaker 5: the Echo Lounge when that happened, and it was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is great, kind of celebrated, but let me nothing
Speaker 5: like this. Non't mean nothing like this.
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is like having Zion or Anthony
Speaker 2: Davis as your draft pick, or some guy that the
Speaker 2: whole world says this is for sure the number one
Speaker 2: player and then everyone else is behind him. The MAVs
Speaker 2: are getting that guy.
Speaker 5: So there's a big article that dropped yesterday from ESPN's
Speaker 5: Baxter Holmes is his name, and it's kind of about
Speaker 5: the family and what they've been going through through all
Speaker 5: this and what happened on the night of the draft lottery,
Speaker 5: because we'll podcast all the segments later.
Speaker 3: You can get him on the.
Speaker 5: iHeart app But earlier were talking about where we all
Speaker 5: were when we found out that the Maverick are getting
Speaker 5: the number one pick. Well, they were at the draft lottery,
Speaker 5: and before they went, they got in their hotel room,
Speaker 5: his mom, his dad, and his twin brother, Ace.
Speaker 3: And Ace Flag. Great name, Oh are you a spy?
Speaker 3: Good name?
Speaker 5: I'm Ace Flag, And they talked about, Okay, let's talk
Speaker 5: about the three teams that is probably gonna be because
Speaker 5: that's what the probability said, it's gonna be the Washington Wizards,
Speaker 5: the Utah Jazz are the Charlotte Hornets, And they talked
Speaker 5: about all the pros. Washington is real close to Maine.
Speaker 5: Charlotte East Coast, real close to Maine. Wouldn't be a
Speaker 5: hard time to you could at your time in Washingt
Speaker 5: dinner Charlotte.
Speaker 3: It talked about the Jazz.
Speaker 5: They apparently were big Boston Celtics fans growing up, so
Speaker 5: they knew Danny Ainge, right, So there there's the But
Speaker 5: they also talked about the negatives and the negatives of
Speaker 5: each of those situations. Is those are losers not It's
Speaker 5: not hell like they said, but those are teams who
Speaker 5: have lost for a long time. And Cooper Flagg has
Speaker 5: never lost. He only wins. So to go here, they
Speaker 5: had never thought it one time. They never thought it
Speaker 5: could happen, and for him to end up here, they
Speaker 5: were like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: And they were as happy as we were because.
Speaker 5: They knew Kyrie Irving plays here, Anthony Davis plays here.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you who knows Derek Lively, Derek two.
Speaker 5: Years ago from Dukes Klay Thompson, forget Thompson, and it's
Speaker 5: it's it's.
Speaker 2: Look, it's there's so many wounds here because of the
Speaker 2: Luca trade. But you know, Skin was talking about that
Speaker 2: Houston game where everybody was healthy for half before Anythony
Speaker 2: Davis got hurt and.
Speaker 1: The MAVs looked good.
Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't understand them getting that much older
Speaker 2: and taking another injury prone player. And we were still
Speaker 2: broken hearted over Luca, but you could see the way
Speaker 2: they were playing and contesting every shot, playing with his
Speaker 2: defense first mentality, and you were like, okay, okay, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty good. Obviously Ad got hurt then and
Speaker 2: it screwed everything up. But you can understand, you know
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do, why they're trying to build
Speaker 2: the team that way. They're gonna be really, really good.
Speaker 2: And typically the team that ends up with one of
Speaker 2: the top picks is gonna be a team that is
Speaker 2: losing every single night. And if Kyrie hadn't have gotten hurt,
Speaker 2: the Mavericks would have been in the playoffs. They would
Speaker 2: have been a playoff team with Kyrie. And so I
Speaker 2: understand people are like a conspiracy, but for this to
Speaker 2: be a conspiracy, Kyrie Irving would have had to fake
Speaker 2: a knee injury because if he hadn't gotten hurt, they
Speaker 2: would have been in the playoffs, they wouldn't have had
Speaker 2: a chance to have the number one pick.
Speaker 5: It goes back to this thing I asked Skin said
Speaker 5: it before, is like I need someone who really believes
Speaker 5: this to walk me through these specific mechanisms in place
Speaker 5: to rig it, Like tell me specifically how this happens.
Speaker 5: It's not just a ping pong ball out of out
Speaker 5: of the thing like people think it is. There's combinations
Speaker 5: to it and things like that, Like it's a way
Speaker 5: deeper thing. And every time you ask someone like, who
Speaker 5: does think it's a conspiracy, And you ask them that question,
Speaker 5: they don't have an answer, and that tells you it's
Speaker 5: not a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: It's just not The map's got lucky, dude.
Speaker 5: This Nikola Harrison's ass was saved, Like, just be really
Speaker 5: clear about that.
Speaker 3: It was saved.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm sure they all know that. And it's
Speaker 5: fine because it's okay. Like you just never know what's
Speaker 5: gonna happen in life. And we got lucky. And we'd
Speaker 5: never gotten lucky though in the NBA draft lottery, the
Speaker 5: Dennis Smith junior year years.
Speaker 3: And the nineties, and they're so bad.
Speaker 5: We've never gotten lucky in the draft lottery, So maybe
Speaker 5: it was just our time. I know that I'm walking
Speaker 5: on sunshine.
Speaker 1: I know, but right now we are walking on such
Speaker 1: a ye.
Speaker 2: That's the song that's playing here at the American Airline
Speaker 2: Center Inflatable.
Speaker 1: Champ is here inflatable MAVs man.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 2: There's seventy four cameramen right now pointing cameras at skin.
Speaker 1: Look at all the cameraman over there.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 5: It looks like we're going to war down there. Those
Speaker 5: are like a bunch of cannon does.
Speaker 1: Look like a firing line looking at those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is gonna be a good place to
Speaker 2: hang out tonight. You'll be able to hear all the
Speaker 2: coverage the MAVs Draft Party twenty five. Again our our presentation,
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Speaker 5: I have to do it make a complaint about the
Speaker 5: Dallas Mavericks organization though. Yeah. Get you a look out there, Ben,
Speaker 5: there's new MAVs man. Okay, man, this is just not
Speaker 5: the MAVs man that we all grow to no one loves,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: It's he's now.
Speaker 5: Blue and you know, a MAVs man is a walking
Speaker 5: human basketball.
Speaker 3: It's lucky in the DNA test did they.
Speaker 4: Probably scare too many kids and that's why they had
Speaker 4: to change it to a more friendly Marvel version.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Oh, the new Marvel is supposed to
Speaker 2: be I heard its nuts there.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to go see that. All right.
Speaker 2: Kat's taking shots at mascots.
Speaker 1: And I'm here for it. I can't argue with you
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 5: That's it's a weak spot of our city. You know,
Speaker 5: we don't have a single mascot in the Mascot Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame.
Speaker 3: It's really discouraging.
Speaker 2: Look down at the court, there's Chuck Cooperstein, the voice
Speaker 2: of Dallas Mavericks basketball down there.
Speaker 3: Oh, Ben, you're gonna like this.
Speaker 5: So in this article when they got Cooper Flag, a
Speaker 5: Mavericks team source said, we surprisingly renewed seventy five to
Speaker 5: eighty percent of our season tickets.
Speaker 3: They said that in the quote surprisingly.
Speaker 4: Dude, he's yeah, he's saving so much.
Speaker 5: The quote said, we had a lot of work to
Speaker 5: do in earning back the confidence and fandom. We sold
Speaker 5: eight million in new season tickets into three days after
Speaker 5: the lottery.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Eight million. Wow. That is so lucky. Wow.
Speaker 1: And it's and it's gonna happen even more and more
Speaker 1: and more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, excitement is back from a team that
Speaker 2: was again shot themselves in.
Speaker 1: The foot with the trade.
Speaker 2: It's it's the one of the most miraculous bailouts ever.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. Is this real life?
Speaker 4: Didn't Skin say he like cried when you.
Speaker 2: Fo and and and I get it and uh he
Speaker 2: did say that, Christine.
Speaker 3: And he also cries during and after sex.
Speaker 2: Right immediately after. That's just he's proud. He tells everyone
Speaker 2: that it's a signature move.
Speaker 3: But no, he he. You know, I know this from
Speaker 3: being around Skin.
Speaker 2: Skin works for the Dallas Mavericks, being around him, other
Speaker 2: people that work in the Mavericks, whether they're in sales
Speaker 2: and marketing, promotions or anybody affility with the organization wore
Speaker 2: that trade. Yeah, Like, every single person who had any
Speaker 2: job for the Mavericks wore that Luca trade. Everywhere they
Speaker 2: went in the world. They got pooped on by everyone going,
Speaker 2: what are you y' all thinking? Yeah, and it's wasn't
Speaker 2: their decision, but they had to wear it. And it
Speaker 2: was just this plague of depression and sadness that was
Speaker 2: following everybody.
Speaker 1: And Skin and I were doing a MAVs podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah you are too dolling.
Speaker 2: So we're going up to the MAVs studio Studio forty one.
Speaker 2: You me, Skinned going up there doing MAVs content. It
Speaker 2: was hard to do because we're trying to put a
Speaker 2: good face on everything, but we're all devastated. And so
Speaker 2: for the weight of all that to be warned by
Speaker 2: all these employees, the minute you got the number one pick,
Speaker 2: you lucked into it.
Speaker 1: Suddenly that weight was lifted and hope was restored.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, like selfishly to make it about me.
Speaker 5: I don't like the man I looked at the comment
Speaker 5: section too much. But like when we were doing that
Speaker 5: show Roundball Talk on maps Doar forty one, you come
Speaker 5: up with something that you think is funny and you
Speaker 5: think might be good, and then you just go to
Speaker 5: look at the comments are all fire ego and you're like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, no one's even watching what we're doing.
Speaker 3: They're just saying, Matt I mean things and I'm not.
Speaker 5: The one who had to post the video, like they're
Speaker 5: a whole team of people well you know, And it
Speaker 5: was like that was really discouraging to think you're doing
Speaker 5: something that's like, oh, I don't think you were watching it.
Speaker 5: They're just checking in to say bad things about the team. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because they were mad, and it's okay to be mad.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely okay to be mad, but that's still take
Speaker 5: it too far.
Speaker 4: That's another reason I'm excited for this pick. That's why
Speaker 4: I brought it back up because I totally forgot he
Speaker 4: had said that, like, we can be excited for our
Speaker 4: friends who work for this organization again because now they
Speaker 4: can be excited to go back to work and actually
Speaker 4: be excited to do, you know, talk about him?
Speaker 5: Would you say that American Airlines is the Mavericks' biggest
Speaker 5: sponsorship deal?
Speaker 2: What do you think I would assume? So, I mean
Speaker 2: because the American Airlines Center. But it's kind of a
Speaker 2: deal for both the Stars and the Mavericks, right.
Speaker 5: So yeah, in that article, the mav source who said
Speaker 5: all that stuff that sus tickets said, we have also
Speaker 5: done two additional new sponsor deals, won the second largest.
Speaker 1: In our history.
Speaker 2: Wow, just by getting lucky on lottery night, right, because
Speaker 2: now it's dude, it helps us as the Eagle. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're the whole man basketball. You trade Luca and everybody's hurt,
Speaker 2: and you can't even you barely have seven active players,
Speaker 2: and you're just like, oh my god, this is miserable.
Speaker 2: Please just lose every game. And they're still fighting, scrapping,
Speaker 2: clawing and somehow winning games. It's like that would have
Speaker 2: been a death march if you have the number twelve
Speaker 2: pick in this draft.
Speaker 1: But you don't. You have the number one pick.
Speaker 2: So the you know, the radio ratings for the MAVs
Speaker 2: games are going to be significantly higher, the interest.
Speaker 1: In them as a team, and again.
Speaker 2: It's the number one pick and a year where the
Speaker 2: number one pick matters coming to a contending team that
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't even have been in the lottery to begin with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me say to you, if you're like a listener,
Speaker 5: heard the show today and you're like, I need my rock.
Speaker 5: Christina will have rock music for you at nine o'clock tonight.
Speaker 5: But the draft simulcast that's gonna happen right here and
Speaker 5: on KFAA. I would stay tuned to that because you know,
Speaker 5: the Maverks could not only after the draft Cooper Flag
Speaker 5: couldn't getting them and try to get someone in the
Speaker 5: back half of the first round.
Speaker 3: So you know, watch that.
Speaker 5: I mean, the draft is now broken up into two nights,
Speaker 5: around one to night, Round two tomorrow night, and it's
Speaker 5: always fun to hear skinning those guys and Ted ever
Speaker 5: can follow though, and when all that's going down and
Speaker 5: there's action happening on Twitter and things like that, and
Speaker 5: find out that was gonna make a trade and maybe
Speaker 5: get another player to night too, and you're gonna be like,
Speaker 5: you're gonna want another that you would listening.
Speaker 3: To that line, right.
Speaker 1: There's been some talk that they were trade back into
Speaker 1: the first round.
Speaker 2: My son Max is here. Max, who's the guy they
Speaker 2: were talking about them trading of his teammate at.
Speaker 6: Duke Tyres Proctor, who was a five star a couple
Speaker 6: of years ago, top prospect out of high school. He
Speaker 6: was ranked twelfth on the nation or something. Okay, he
Speaker 6: was supposed to come out last year. Decided to say
Speaker 6: one more year to play with Flag. He's saved one
Speaker 6: more year to stay and play with him. He's a
Speaker 6: good combo guard. He's not gonna be an elite playmaker,
Speaker 6: but he shoots at three well and he's gonna be
Speaker 6: a really good defender.
Speaker 1: He's a good prospect and.
Speaker 3: He's from Australia.
Speaker 2: Mate. Oh okay, mate, throw another trip at the barbie man.
Speaker 2: I just Max was more succinct than Skin got to it.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, quickly wrapped it up. He was knowledgeable, believable.
Speaker 2: Sometimes Skin's not believable. Skin On Tyre's Proctor.
Speaker 5: That scouting report would have taken us past our heart out,
Speaker 5: his heart on would have taken us fast heart out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, heart on, sure heart Yeah, I heeart And we
Speaker 2: have to thank our friends at iHeart for having us
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: You have to think I heard yeah, thank them. I
Speaker 1: don't even think I Heart.
Speaker 5: If you're coming out to the draft party, I know
Speaker 5: we have some BFD shirts.
Speaker 3: To give away.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she did say the first four people, which
Speaker 4: I'm sure those are already.
Speaker 3: All right, that's right.
Speaker 2: If you uh coming out to the draft party, come
Speaker 2: find us. The Eagle is set up here and our
Speaker 2: promo crews here. And look at the break dancers out
Speaker 2: there getting skin packed up.
Speaker 4: Also, it's much better to see them dancing to music
Speaker 4: than just.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like to thank again our friends at
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Speaker 1: And appreciate being here. All right, here we go, Dallas,
Speaker 1: Sport Worth. It's a big night in your history.
Speaker 2: Coming up next the NBA Draft and the MAVs have
Speaker 2: the number one pick.