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Speaker 2: live tonight with the one and only. Bringing him in
Speaker 2: right now, mister Howard as Berger Uh from the Cave
Speaker 2: of Wonders Jesus.
Speaker 4: Hello, sir, are you? Are you okay? Almost didn't make
Speaker 4: it hanging on by the seat of of pants.
Speaker 3: Here, we'll bring it to that.
Speaker 2: California is getting flooded like crazy right now. How's how's
Speaker 2: the storm streeting you?
Speaker 3: Well, we're on battery right now on my street.
Speaker 5: We're out, we're out of hour, so hopefully that'll that'll
Speaker 5: come back soon. But I don't think it's this way everywhere,
Speaker 5: but it's for me, it's great.
Speaker 3: I love I love the rain. I don't love, you know,
Speaker 3: people getting crushed to death under tons of mud and
Speaker 3: getting you know, smashed up in there, because it's pretty bad.
Speaker 3: But I don't go anywhere. I just sit here and
Speaker 3: do this stuff, and then you know you're my You're
Speaker 3: my social my desperate social needs for the month.
Speaker 2: Even know, yeah, it ain't white, that's for sure. It's
Speaker 2: all just wet, actually, Jettison, I do reply to Chad.
Speaker 2: These are not recorded, thank you. I'm live every single time, buddy.
Speaker 2: I've only missed one Thursday and four and a half
Speaker 2: years and and every other one of those has been live. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's get this done. I am this is not amazing
Speaker 2: critical film. I am sorry. I am bringing Howard on
Speaker 2: by phone, and then after that, if he falls through,
Speaker 2: I will get Jeremy Long on. Jeremy Long is watching,
Speaker 2: and he will be live. Yet Howard lost power at
Speaker 2: his house. He is in southern California. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're paying attention to the news everybody, but
Speaker 2: southern California is crazy bad right now. There are streets
Speaker 2: actually near where I grew up that are completely washed
Speaker 2: out and not doing well. Here's Howard via phone. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't sound better?
Speaker 3: Now Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome, wonderful to see you.
Speaker 3: Hold on one second, let me this makes for great love.
Speaker 2: This this is just bizarre.
Speaker 3: I have never done this on a phone before.
Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully it works. Hopefully your phone doesn't die like
Speaker 2: the next eight minutes, and we can get this dog.
Speaker 3: We'll keep it going. So now back on track.
Speaker 2: So you said you don't get to watch much other
Speaker 2: than what you're working on. Is there anything that you've
Speaker 2: been able to watch recently that wasn't a recent physical
Speaker 2: media release or sorry, or one that's coming up that
Speaker 2: hasn't been announced yet, because I'm sure you have about
Speaker 2: eighty four of those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, I think I watched the the French Napoleon,
Speaker 3: the New Able Dance, the seven Hour Able Gance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've still never seen that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, you know it's funny. I saw
Speaker 3: that thing on at Radio City Music Hall in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty and they had like you know, but that was
Speaker 3: like four and a half hours long. This is like
Speaker 3: almost three hours longer. Yeah, and it looks like it
Speaker 3: was made this afternoon. Now. It's really gorgeous, but it's
Speaker 3: a it's a wild, wild movie, like every it's all
Speaker 3: pure innovation, and you know, he's he's really I mean,
Speaker 3: it's nineteen twenty seven, so you think that they were
Speaker 3: already gotten a real groove with with the attempting, you know,
Speaker 3: brave cinematic technique this guy is. I mean, it's just wild.
Speaker 3: It's just wild cinema.
Speaker 2: So that's the one where they had for like three projections.
Speaker 3: Right at the very end, there's a trip tech that
Speaker 3: that was set up. It's not the whole movie like that,
Speaker 3: but but it doesn't need to be. There's there's there's
Speaker 3: just amazing you know, attempts at a technical storytelling which
Speaker 3: is just hadn't been done at the time, really amazing,
Speaker 3: amazing for so that I eked out seven hours over
Speaker 3: three nights to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, Oh, I watched The keynot Scars of Dracula four K.
Speaker 2: Oh. Nice that that I loved that. I loved good movie.
Speaker 2: Good movie.
Speaker 3: I can't help that. That's my childhood, you know. It's
Speaker 3: so wonderful.
Speaker 2: Although beating too. Are you Are you picking up any
Speaker 2: physical media over the last few months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't watched. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2: And we're just curious about what kind of stuff that
Speaker 2: you're interested in that you've been buying.
Speaker 3: Uh gosh, let me think. Uh, I got just a
Speaker 3: lot of the new four K stuff I've been getting. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Vinegar Syndrome is coming out with like just
Speaker 3: like a fountain of stuff that's unending. And and Keno
Speaker 3: same thing has been putting out some some really good,
Speaker 3: you know, really good things on four K. I don't
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not like a technical guru, so I
Speaker 3: have no idea, you know, I don't want to say,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, oh I love it, thought looked great,
Speaker 3: and then everyone gets piles on me like this was
Speaker 3: the worst transfer ever.
Speaker 2: You know, well, to be fair, compared to most other people,
Speaker 2: you actually did see many of these projected like on
Speaker 2: their original runs for many.
Speaker 3: Of the movies. Yeah, I mean, yeah, most of them.
Speaker 3: Although you know, I have to hand it to you know,
Speaker 3: Severn and and Vinegar Syndrome. They're they're finding stuff that
Speaker 3: like still was only like your bucket list stuff for me,
Speaker 3: you know, So that that that's great. So no, I'm
Speaker 3: we're entering a new era where you know, my my
Speaker 3: expertise has now hit a brick wall, you know, But
Speaker 3: it's great because now I can learn new new ship.
Speaker 3: You know, this is this is what I live for.
Speaker 3: It's really it's really pretty pretty wild. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I know I must have watched stuff. I
Speaker 3: did get a ton of titles, but they're all sitting,
Speaker 3: you know, they're all in the boxes, still in the floor,
Speaker 3: so I can't I haven't even unpacked them. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to think. I saw the Paul
Speaker 3: Thomas Anderson thing. One battle after another. That was my
Speaker 3: once a year now trip to the theater. I actually
Speaker 3: was able to get.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's still playing, but I did
Speaker 3: miss kill Bill in seventy That's what I was. That's
Speaker 3: what I was hoping to do for my birthday, and
Speaker 3: I blew that one completely. So oh, I did get
Speaker 3: to go to the Las Vegas Sphere and see the
Speaker 3: Wizard of oz In in the Sphere thing, yeah, which
Speaker 3: was really kind of freaky because it's a I you
Speaker 3: know a lot of it. So all the all those
Speaker 3: weird flaws you see, and I like that. It's like
Speaker 3: West World when they say, you know, look at you know,
Speaker 3: the fingertips or look at their you know, look at
Speaker 3: their cuticles and look at their eyes and you could
Speaker 3: tell their fake robots. It's the same thing. Like the
Speaker 3: eyes are just freaky. It looks like partially like a cartoon,
Speaker 3: really weird, but but it was fun. And and they
Speaker 3: actually had like you know, uh, it's it's almost like
Speaker 3: they would also have like wind blowing and you know,
Speaker 3: interactive things that they do in the theater itself, which
Speaker 3: I didn't know they were going to do. Uh, And
Speaker 3: that was kind of cool because they had flying monkeys
Speaker 3: also like a dish flying monkey puppets, like.
Speaker 2: I did not hear that part. I a great Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I watched them carry them out the end, you know,
Speaker 3: they were they were cleaning up the theater afterwards, and
Speaker 3: they're like carrying out these these flying monkeys.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Little things like that make me, ah,
Speaker 2: I thing sounds dreadful, but like the four D aspects
Speaker 2: I could really get behind, like the wind tunnels and
Speaker 2: and the flying monkey puppets. That would be fun.
Speaker 3: It was cool. And they even had when uh you know,
Speaker 3: the the the forest of apple trees whatever. They had
Speaker 3: like h like these these cloth these like sewn apples
Speaker 3: falling on you. Also from the way way high up,
Speaker 3: and they like and it's really steep, like I was terrified, terrified,
Speaker 3: They're terrified to get to my seat. It's really narrow
Speaker 3: and they're all these like the youngest person in that
Speaker 3: theater is like probably me, you know, and I'm like
Speaker 3: trying to get everyone there is has like real walkers
Speaker 3: and you know uh, and they were you know, everyone's
Speaker 3: like singing and crying and they know all the you know,
Speaker 3: all the hand gestures the actors do. So I was
Speaker 3: late trying to get into the theater because it's a
Speaker 3: long walk from where we were staying. And I'm getting
Speaker 3: into the aisle and I look down and I am
Speaker 3: gonna fall, Like there's no it's like a steep You're
Speaker 3: like you're gonna drop into a volcano. That's how steep
Speaker 3: this thing looked to me. And I was terrified and
Speaker 3: I said, I can't, I can't go in there. And
Speaker 3: my girlfriend's already in her seat and I'm like I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't do it, and all these like significantly older
Speaker 3: people sitting, you know, I didn't want to trip on
Speaker 3: them or something trying to get to the see and
Speaker 3: they're like, you can do it, you can do it,
Speaker 3: and they're holding out their hands for me to hold
Speaker 3: on too.
Speaker 2: I love that you have all these seventy four year
Speaker 2: olds cheering you on. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: It's seventy four. We're talking like guys, they were alive
Speaker 3: when this thing was released. They were talking considerably older
Speaker 3: than seventy four. That's that's the new thirty. I mean,
Speaker 3: like these guys literally had to have been in like
Speaker 3: their high nineties or no joke, but they were all.
Speaker 3: They were very were very accommodating. I felt bad. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to trip on them or I didn't want
Speaker 3: to pull them down to the You know, it's scary,
Speaker 3: but it's totally worth it. I mean it was just
Speaker 3: go go on on a weekday because then the the
Speaker 3: the hotels are much cheaper, and we got a really
Speaker 3: good deal on the Venetians.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love this. Aaron Over at Senna Journey says,
Speaker 2: I want William Castle at the Sphere. Give me the Tingler. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be fun, although you your seat and tumble down.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a liability problem.
Speaker 3: A great idea though, once you go and you see
Speaker 3: what the potential is, that's a really cool idea. Castle
Speaker 3: worked great. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah the Tingler. Holy cow.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, what happened if you if you
Speaker 3: tingled those seats, they would just go flying out and
Speaker 3: you lose half the audience. It would just fall into
Speaker 3: this abyss.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, if you tingle those seats sounds like
Speaker 2: a double on. Tandra Howard. Thanks all right, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get I know that you don't have a pile
Speaker 2: of pickups next to you. But just to share a
Speaker 2: couple of things that I've happened to gott in the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. My mother in law went on
Speaker 2: my Amazon wish list and got me Scooby Doo and
Speaker 2: Kiss Rock and Roll Mystery on Blu Ray Rock on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I stoked on that. I've never seen any of bo
Speaker 2: Widerberg stuff. And I got the New Sweet Cinema box
Speaker 2: set from Criterion. So this is a bright new to.
Speaker 3: Me that I had. I think I got that over.
Speaker 3: Was that over the summer?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: I don't even remember what month it is. So that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Everything is great. Adl on the was it thirty one
Speaker 3: or something like that? That's that's incredible. Great man man man
Speaker 3: on a roof, Man on the roof, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah. Yeah, Elvira mad again, the Baby Carriage,
Speaker 2: ravens End and Adeline thirty one. Yeah, at thirty one
Speaker 2: is incredible, and then I've got one more. I've got
Speaker 2: a new one and then one that I know that
Speaker 2: you'll be able to talk about. So I'll show the
Speaker 2: new one first, the new Bogonia film. This is from
Speaker 2: Yorgos Lanthemos, from this year remake of Save the Green Planet?
Speaker 2: Did you ever see that one?
Speaker 3: Great yep? I didn't know that. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: it was. I have it sitting out there, but no,
Speaker 3: I haven't haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2: Supposedly a loose remake. I need to see the original.
Speaker 2: I've still never seen it. I'm waiting for that arrow
Speaker 2: disc that's coming out in the UK to be able
Speaker 2: to slow.
Speaker 3: That's good to that I didn't know either.
Speaker 2: Good Yeah, coming on four K in just a couple
Speaker 2: of months. This one I won in a secret all
Speaker 2: that one. I was sent this in a secret Santa
Speaker 2: giveaway and a Facebook group. And this is Franco Niro
Speaker 2: in a Enzog Castellari's Kiyoma. This is a German media
Speaker 2: book release of Plow.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about Yoma? Howard love it? I
Speaker 3: love it? That's that's It's amazing. With the the DeAngelis
Speaker 3: Brothers score. Yeah, incredible. No, that's great. I actually got
Speaker 3: to see that projected in Rome, which was, you know,
Speaker 3: pretty cool. Yeah, and he's he's a great guy. I
Speaker 3: met him very at the very very end of the
Speaker 3: Fantom Festival when I was there.
Speaker 2: God knows, I.
Speaker 3: Won't even say how long ago anymore, but it was
Speaker 3: left for that. It was like ninety five or.
Speaker 2: Ninety five, I think that's what you said. Last time
Speaker 2: was ninety five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he was like one of the We
Speaker 3: did not expect to meet him at all, but it
Speaker 3: was at the last night of the festival and he
Speaker 3: was there with his son Andrea, and we met them.
Speaker 3: We hung out with them for a while or a
Speaker 3: couple of hours. We each had our own bottle of champagne,
Speaker 3: which made everything really interesting too. But no, it was
Speaker 3: really fun. He's but he's such a he's such a
Speaker 3: great guy. And that movie is you know, from the
Speaker 3: Golden Age. You know, all his Westerns are pretty amazing
Speaker 3: legitimately least, it's not hyperbole, it's it's really you know,
Speaker 3: he he does his own he does his own thing,
Speaker 3: his own way. But that's great. I didn't know about that.
Speaker 3: I'm I have to hunt that down.
Speaker 2: What's your what's your favorite Franco Nero rule? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's a big question, I know.
Speaker 3: All right, well, you know this is where I get
Speaker 3: pies thrown at me. I really thought he was great
Speaker 3: and as Lancelot in Camelot. Okay, so I you know,
Speaker 3: you're not going to find a bigger close up of
Speaker 3: Franco Nero on the screen, that's for sure. I was
Speaker 3: like seventy millimeters and you could literally climb up the
Speaker 3: nosehairs on his from his nostrils and you're that close
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: But he was.
Speaker 3: He was a fantastic Lancelot, you know. But so, but
Speaker 3: you know, I love him and everything I like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I love quiet place in the country. That might be
Speaker 3: the most difficult role. I think he could have asked
Speaker 3: of tried to do it. He was incredible in that.
Speaker 3: So he's Yeah, you know, that's interesting. I never you know,
Speaker 3: I never think about that really ranking the stars. Yeah, no, No,
Speaker 3: he's he's pretty across the board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially for a name like him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the visitor is a big one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm just saying, like, he's my desktop, my screen image,
Speaker 3: my desktop image with the Golden air Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 2: Great, that's pretty funny. Okay, So tonight after announcements, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be going over Howard's contributions for the year. I'll
Speaker 2: talk about some of mine real quick, but the big
Speaker 2: thing is you have You've done some pretty massive things,
Speaker 2: uh this year for supplemental features and not just the
Speaker 2: the plethora of commentaries. A lot of people don't get
Speaker 2: the weight of some of the visual essays because you know,
Speaker 2: when you do something for Arrow, it's just labeled as
Speaker 2: a visual essay by Howards Berger, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: here's a visual essay.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Some of these are are like forty five plus minutes
Speaker 2: and they are epics recorded with the stars from the films,
Speaker 2: properly researched, wonderfully edited, just absolutely incredible pieces. And I
Speaker 2: especially like Excaliburg. We're going to dive into that one
Speaker 2: and some of the other ones that you're proud of
Speaker 2: from this year.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean also judging from the critical thing, you know,
Speaker 3: it's really humbling because you have no idea. You know,
Speaker 3: you're hoping you're not sinking a project with your contributions.
Speaker 3: But Outland for Arrow really was that was just great.
Speaker 3: My producer, and that Neil Snowden that he did this,
Speaker 3: and he did These are all the arrow stuff that
Speaker 3: I've worked on. Mainly I worked with I just did
Speaker 3: with another producer. I did under Siege, which is coming up.
Speaker 2: I did a thing.
Speaker 3: But he's he's a Neil is just an amazing curator,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's you know, as far as producers go,
Speaker 3: you can you can almost collaborate with him. You know,
Speaker 3: you can get ideas off him through so he was
Speaker 3: he makes everything. It's just not like you know, a gig.
Speaker 3: He really he's into it and he loves concepts and
Speaker 3: so he's really he's he's been wonderful. Uh And I
Speaker 3: think the stuff, you know, we like everything we do,
Speaker 3: and especially whenever I work with Kevin Maher, my destructible
Speaker 3: man partner who doesn't seem to gets weird. Like the
Speaker 3: people the critics writing the stuff, they always say me
Speaker 3: and just because it's my voice, I think, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a lot of the the visual essays. If
Speaker 3: it's not just me, it's in the credit as just me.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just you know, we have it really pretty
Speaker 3: clearly marked that it's me and Kevin Maher so I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not gonna steal all credit for the
Speaker 3: you know, the some of the visual essays. But it's
Speaker 3: when it's the flying the Chief State Brothers, when it's credited,
Speaker 3: you know pretty clearly it's me and him. But we
Speaker 3: we like we had a fun time. We were given
Speaker 3: a really cool project started like starting like this time
Speaker 3: last year. It was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: We did the.
Speaker 3: Long Kiss good Night and which was a favorite of ours,
Speaker 3: mainly because there's a great there's dummy deaths throughout the
Speaker 3: whole thing, and you know, I'm sure people know already
Speaker 3: my affiliation with dummy debts and film language. It's like
Speaker 3: they're hand in hand for me. So I can't can't
Speaker 3: get enough of dummy debts. But you even get a
Speaker 3: damn you know, Reindeer in that one, you know, dummy
Speaker 3: rein Deer.
Speaker 2: It was just it was so great.
Speaker 3: But we did they hat like a forty forty minute thing,
Speaker 3: and it just sort of like went under the radar,
Speaker 3: and like, I don't know if people like you, there
Speaker 3: weren't that many Long Kiss good Night fans, but you know,
Speaker 3: who knows. But the only the only time we saw
Speaker 3: it was one wonder review one one video review of
Speaker 3: it or some thing which would it got so far
Speaker 3: as like, you know, we're pretty tongue in cheek when
Speaker 3: we do stuff, and we mentioned just because it was
Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, Shane Black wrote it and
Speaker 3: Rennie Harland did it. They have a pretty potent sense
Speaker 3: of humor and they're very self aware, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was basically we took it like we pretty thought
Speaker 3: it was pretty clear that it is a satire of
Speaker 3: these macho movies. I mean, every two minutes is another
Speaker 3: you know, self mocking comment in that movie about you know,
Speaker 3: macho movies and things like that. So we mentioned phallic
Speaker 3: phallic imagery and we gave an example as a joke,
Speaker 3: and I think they these you start reading the comments
Speaker 3: and like these guys come out of the woolwork hate
Speaker 3: the guy that they hated the movie. Didn't even didn't
Speaker 3: even listen, didn't even watch the rest of our video essay,
Speaker 3: but he was he was going on about like you
Speaker 3: know how it girks him when critics you pull out
Speaker 3: phallic imagery, and I'm like, okay, it's like all these
Speaker 3: guys were just like you know, like I'm really like
Speaker 3: bugged by Phallic Image. It was just the funniest thing
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, and I've never seen a response like that.
Speaker 3: But we we were proud of that one. We thought
Speaker 3: it was a pretty We thought it was a fun
Speaker 3: dissection of the movie. Uh, but that you know, that
Speaker 3: was at the beginning of the year. I think that
Speaker 3: the wround this time. I remember the fires in La
Speaker 3: were going on. Yeah, so did that we start. But
Speaker 3: all year we did another one which we thought it
Speaker 3: was a lot really really good of great movie, the
Speaker 3: Fernando Delio, Uh, the Italian Connection for Radiance RaRo Radiance
Speaker 3: and uh, that was another one. You know, if I don't,
Speaker 3: I think you can. They did not. Kino did not
Speaker 3: poured it over on their release. So it's it's it's
Speaker 3: locked on on the the rawer release, the redo. And
Speaker 3: I would love to hear if anyone's ever seen, you know,
Speaker 3: ever seen it, what they thought, because critically was under underwritten,
Speaker 3: so we didn't we have no idea what people thought
Speaker 3: about that. You know the same thing with the Long
Speaker 3: Kiske at Night. It was just sort of under reviewed.
Speaker 3: Or you'll see a lot of these sites, they'll they'll
Speaker 3: review the movie and the transfer, especially if it's four K,
Speaker 3: but they won't get to they'll just post the extras.
Speaker 2: Just list what's on there and never watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, wow, you know, we would love
Speaker 3: to hear, you know, good or bad, whatever. We'd love
Speaker 3: to hear what people thought of it.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, most of our contributions have never had
Speaker 2: a proper review on our end. There's I could probably use.
Speaker 3: You're cranking out some great stuff lately, I mean really
Speaker 3: really great stuff. This whole year has been like, you know,
Speaker 3: your your apple of my eye. Very proud of you. No,
Speaker 3: really great stuff.
Speaker 2: I appreciate good.
Speaker 3: I also really enjoyed the thing we did together at
Speaker 3: first Collapse. I was very I was really happy with
Speaker 3: what you did. I mean, you know, the first time
Speaker 3: I ever didn't edit my own essay, which was weird
Speaker 3: to me. But uh, but no, I thought you did
Speaker 3: a fantastic job. I'm really you know, looking forward to
Speaker 3: do something, you know, doing you know.
Speaker 2: More stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Outland was that to me, was you know,
Speaker 3: like an emotional thing almost because it was you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, I mean I saw it. I was
Speaker 3: already going into you know, I think high school. I
Speaker 3: was already in like high school, and so it was
Speaker 3: part it's been part of me.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: These movies are just kind of get stuck in my
Speaker 3: head and it's part of me for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and to to try and you know, to do the
Speaker 3: visual essay, Kevin Maher and myself, you know, we really
Speaker 3: of course the dummy deaths that were plend full and
Speaker 3: they had great thematic resonance, and we always thought it
Speaker 3: was like, you know, even though the film was logically
Speaker 3: kind of you know, cinema logic in other words, it's
Speaker 3: a lot of things that you know, it's sort of
Speaker 3: like what Dario Argento used to be argued against, like
Speaker 3: these plots are stupid, they're stupid. Like well, it's just
Speaker 3: kind of fun, you know, it's not taking itself too seriously,
Speaker 3: and and the logic is leaps. It's trying to figure
Speaker 3: out how far you can push your power, you know,
Speaker 3: your cinematic power, if you can get away with making
Speaker 3: people believe in not you know, nonsense that just can't
Speaker 3: things that just technically can't happen. But that's that's the
Speaker 3: fantasy of movies. So we really enjoyed this one. I
Speaker 3: mean just from a thematic point of view. That was
Speaker 3: so much fun and we were really we're really proud
Speaker 3: of it. And the fact that I also again Neil
Speaker 3: let me talk to some people to speak to sit
Speaker 3: down with Peter Hyams and and that was pretty interesting
Speaker 3: because you know, there's a lot of you know, he's
Speaker 3: he's an he's a polarizing character sometimes, but he's you
Speaker 3: know as Luckily I'm not one of his crew and
Speaker 3: I'm not one of you know, and I'm not working
Speaker 3: for him, and it was real pleasure to sit down
Speaker 3: with him finally, and he has such a great history
Speaker 3: that he hasn't spoke of. You know. I walked into
Speaker 3: his house and we were sitting down just talking before
Speaker 3: doing the interview, and he starts talking about how he was,
Speaker 3: you know, when he was you know, just barely starting
Speaker 3: out and he was in h you know, a room
Speaker 3: he met Richard Brooks, who did the Professionals and in
Speaker 3: Cold Blood and I'm already like, okay, you got me
Speaker 3: at you got me at Richard Brooks automatically, so I was,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just wild to sit down. And also
Speaker 3: I got to talk for Excalibur. I got to meet
Speaker 3: Rospo Pallenberg, who was a prime collabor rator of Borman
Speaker 3: for quite a few films. And uh, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's just cool that these guys don't live very far
Speaker 3: from me. You know. I had a really good meetings
Speaker 3: with them, and you know, Excalibur and Outland the two
Speaker 3: projects I think more than any and Kevin and I
Speaker 3: got to do a great visual essay for that as well.
Speaker 3: We really, you know, again, from our point of view,
Speaker 3: it was just so much, so much we wanted to
Speaker 3: get out of her you know, focus on get out
Speaker 3: of her chest. And we actually, you know, we actually
Speaker 3: learned from doing these things, you know, I mean we
Speaker 3: you know, we did the research for it and just
Speaker 3: studying the film in a way we never really did before.
Speaker 3: So much, so much fun. And they are damn good looking,
Speaker 3: uh transfers. Uh you know again, I'll probably get you know,
Speaker 3: egg plants and pies thrown at me for saying that
Speaker 3: was a terrible transfer. I don't know, it looked great
Speaker 3: to me. I mean I've watched it for watch these movies,
Speaker 3: you know, half my life, and they're you know, I
Speaker 3: think there's the best that they've ever looked.
Speaker 2: But we will dive deep into Excalibur and a couple
Speaker 2: others after the announcements. First, you got a couple of
Speaker 2: compliments here. Paul in the Chat says Howard's interview with
Speaker 2: Peter Hyms was amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. And we never hear we don't hear
Speaker 3: from anybody. This is great. I love I love that
Speaker 3: they can type it.
Speaker 2: People care, people watch the bid says Howard did a
Speaker 2: great job on the Terminal Man Arrow release. That's the
Speaker 2: one you hear much about.
Speaker 3: That's another one that was again it was like the
Speaker 3: beginning of this year. It was like right over the holidays.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I mean that that was again
Speaker 3: that I would have to include that one. That's another
Speaker 3: another one by you know Neil Snowden, great curatorship and
Speaker 3: and he was. It was just it was just really
Speaker 3: an emotional thing. I knew both directors, Mike Hodges and
Speaker 3: the director of photography, both both people networks, but Richard
Speaker 3: klein Uh and and that was you know, they were
Speaker 3: really special to me too. I mean they you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure people who have met them also would
Speaker 3: probably parrot that that. It's just definitely an emotional you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're really they were really really great people, and
Speaker 3: their their vantage point and their learning and their work
Speaker 3: is just insane. It's just it's just, you know, I
Speaker 3: get choked up just thinking that Richard was like one
Speaker 3: of my Richard Klein was like one of my best
Speaker 3: friends for a good a good four or five years
Speaker 3: before he passed away. Uh and he was something like
Speaker 3: ninety one at that point. Whatever.
Speaker 2: But he's an amazing guy.
Speaker 3: And he would come over every every Thursday, Tuesday and
Speaker 3: Thursday if he could, and we'd watch one of the
Speaker 3: movies that he shot. He never wanted to watch anything,
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't even want to watch those. I had, like,
Speaker 3: you know, pressure him to like just sit down.
Speaker 2: You know. I think he liked my.
Speaker 3: Dog, So it was that was the big That was
Speaker 3: the big thing, was he would he likes he liked
Speaker 3: coming over and just you know, being with the dog.
Speaker 3: But yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. That's it again,
Speaker 3: you don't really hear it. I you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know why. I guess they because there was no four
Speaker 3: K of that one. I mean, people, you know, I
Speaker 3: guess are kind of guessing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Not every not every movie has elements that you know.
Speaker 2: Let's let's be even more clear. Most films will never
Speaker 2: have a four K period half.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: And then and then our friend Rachel bill Wore has
Speaker 2: a plea for you, Please more bil Mondo commentaries in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six always come with you, Howard, along with
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Thompson and Steve Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Rachel, thank you so so much. She's great. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love for column and your your mag She's good.
Speaker 3: So I really I appreciate that, you know tremendously. That's
Speaker 3: that means, that means a hell of a lot. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much. And yeah, there's more bel Mondo. We
Speaker 3: I think I'm trying to remember she I think you
Speaker 3: may have covered the last of the recent Bilmondo's that
Speaker 3: we got. I just did a Lino Ventura and I
Speaker 3: did trying to think well to actually too Leno ventures,
Speaker 3: but he was I don't want to give thee I
Speaker 3: I like, you know, the reveals when it happens. But
Speaker 3: it's a yeah, but yeah, you know we're we're doing
Speaker 3: the Ventura cycle now. But but yeah, thanks, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's great. And again we don't we don't hear.
Speaker 3: So this is amazing that you that this is like
Speaker 3: people actually actually care. However, two seconds of what that
Speaker 3: they watched it.
Speaker 2: Well, let's dive deep into some films. It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of the dead time of the year, so there's not
Speaker 2: a ton of announcements, so we'll get through these real
Speaker 2: quick and then we'll get back to some of these contributions,
Speaker 2: the ones that we're covering tonight. There there are some
Speaker 2: kind of big ones for what was announced, so we'll
Speaker 2: give some extra time to those. I'm curious how many
Speaker 2: of these that you have seen. I'm betting it's most
Speaker 2: of them, so very curious to hear your thoughts. Let's
Speaker 2: get to our first releases. These first two are from
Speaker 2: Deaf Crocodile, coming in January. This first one is from
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight and it's the check film Kracketits coming
Speaker 2: on four K and Blu Ray combo pack. This is
Speaker 2: a astonishing sci fi noir film. We get a new
Speaker 2: interview on this one with the arkvist Teresa Frondlova from
Speaker 2: the Rodney Film ARKive in Prague. New commentary by Peter
Speaker 2: Haynes and Arenakovarova from Comeback Company. New visual essay by
Speaker 2: Clayton Dillard from Someone's Favorite Productions. I've heard of that company,
Speaker 2: and it is a great visual essay. We've got a
Speaker 2: sixty page book, as always in these deluxe edition Crocodile releases,
Speaker 2: and we've got an essay by Walt Shawesi by Jonathan Owen.
Speaker 2: The big thing for me as far as this physical
Speaker 2: release on this though, is the art here is gorgeous
Speaker 2: by Richard Cox. And if you are a subscriber or
Speaker 2: a member and you've got access to the members only section,
Speaker 2: they've got an exclusive version where the title is bolded
Speaker 2: and red. It's the only difference, so you don't get
Speaker 2: to worry about it too much. But it is a
Speaker 2: really beautiful box. Have you seen kracket teeth? Howard?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? In fact, I've been waiting for this. I knew
Speaker 3: you It's like the minute I knew that Dennis Bartok
Speaker 3: announced he was doing this label years ago. I'm like
Speaker 3: I was one of the ones. I'm praying, you know,
Speaker 3: fingers tightly clenched that he actually gets to This is
Speaker 3: like one of those hideous little old Torrent file memory
Speaker 3: is I gotta give like you know tit was in
Speaker 3: the titles I have downloaded and it was much better
Speaker 3: than what I thought it was gonna be. Wild, wild movie,
Speaker 3: wild movie. But again it looked horrible. It looks like,
Speaker 3: you know, like a Karellian photograph. It's like heat sensitive
Speaker 3: photographs is like a tenth generation you know. It was
Speaker 3: like an Avin old av I file. So yeah, I'm psyched.
Speaker 3: I'm psyched. I'm sure. I'm sure will look stunning.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they're doing it in four K two amazing.
Speaker 3: But his extras, the people that he gets on there
Speaker 3: are just you know, they are they're the tops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be a good one. And then
Speaker 2: another one that I believe you have seen. They're also
Speaker 2: releasing White Son of the Desert from nineteen seventy, one
Speaker 2: of the most famous Soviet Easterns or Red westerns. A
Speaker 2: lot of this is a very unique movie.
Speaker 3: Tell us about why some of the desert it's just
Speaker 3: it's just a why you know, it's it's like almost
Speaker 3: like a spaghetti western, a Russian spaghetti western. That was
Speaker 3: I saw that on the when Ruskico was putting out DVDs.
Speaker 3: I guess when was that early nine maybe, yeah, And
Speaker 3: that was one of the pretty close to I think
Speaker 3: that one of the first ones that I actually bought
Speaker 3: from them. Uh, it's it's wild, a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I think it appeals to kids a lot. I think
Speaker 3: they had it. It was very very popular with UH, with
Speaker 3: the kids in Russia and then you know, I mean it,
Speaker 3: it's one of them. It's one of the most popular still,
Speaker 3: like you know, decades on, one of the most popular
Speaker 3: films ever released. Break great movie, a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It's not a dreary you know, there's no you know,
Speaker 3: I mean there are, there are, there's some moments, but
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's just a great movie. A lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of really really a sort of new
Speaker 3: twists on on like the Italian UH style, very foregrounded
Speaker 3: and rhythmic. It's one of those things where I have
Speaker 3: no idea how they how they actually go out and
Speaker 3: plan shoots like this. It just must have been, you know, exhausting.
Speaker 3: You never would think that they would come out alive
Speaker 3: from a shoot like this, but they it's it's great.
Speaker 3: It's good to hear what they're doing. And I'm glad.
Speaker 2: It's a very funny movie too. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: comedy in this one. Yeah, extras on this Blu ray release.
Speaker 2: We've got a new commentary by Ralph Geeson, the film Scholar.
Speaker 2: We got a new visual essay by Evan Chester. We
Speaker 2: got a new interview with Soviet filmmaker Sergei Laventiev. He
Speaker 2: is great in this interview. We've got a new restoration trailer.
Speaker 2: And then on the deluxe edition you've got an essay
Speaker 2: by Peter Rolberg and an essay by Waltshaw. Great great release.
Speaker 2: Uh love the artwork on the outside of the box
Speaker 2: here it's by Stephen Thomas dev Crocodile. Some of the
Speaker 2: best art in the game. I will always say that
Speaker 2: they got some great choices.
Speaker 3: Well, you know again, Dennis Bartak, you couldn't you couldn't
Speaker 3: have hoped for, you know, a better curator of of
Speaker 3: of these movies. These are really the truly under discussed,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's really providing amazing education to everybody.
Speaker 3: And it is just, you know, I gotta you know,
Speaker 3: pat that guy in the back please because seriously amazing
Speaker 3: effort that he's done. Because it's not it's not just
Speaker 3: he's acquiring it and doing the minimal he's really finding
Speaker 3: the right people to talk, you know, and and lead
Speaker 3: you by the hand into another, a totally another you know,
Speaker 3: brain set. It's just great.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dennis, you know, kind of speaking in the
Speaker 2: same way about Dennis, I'm going to digress for a
Speaker 2: real quick second and shout out Connor Holt. Who's in
Speaker 2: the chat tonight, who's on the show I don't know.
Speaker 2: Five six weeks ago, Connor Holt does the Lord's Work
Speaker 2: to promote the smallest theaters all across the US, most
Speaker 2: of them l A and we're talking not even just theaters,
Speaker 2: like pop up VHS festivals, swap meets that are focusing
Speaker 2: on film and physical media, things like that. Everybody should
Speaker 2: go follow VHS Spectacular on Instagram and if you're still
Speaker 2: a R on Twitter, following there. Connor does just some
Speaker 2: incredible enlightening work about just really cool people that don't
Speaker 2: ever get attention. And Connor is not followed by enough people.
Speaker 2: He is just a truly kind soul.
Speaker 3: I don't think we just friended each other today. I'm
Speaker 3: so happy, nice very I didn't even didn't even think.
Speaker 3: You know, again me, if it pops up on my feed,
Speaker 3: you know, then I'll look to see who it is.
Speaker 3: But like I don't have enough I haven't had enough
Speaker 3: time to go prowling around. But when he popped up,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah, you know, it's like yeah, excellent.
Speaker 2: All right, let's continue on with our announcements. Ben Wheatley,
Speaker 2: you probably recognize that name a modern filmmaker. Over on
Speaker 2: March second in the UK, we are getting a four
Speaker 2: K Blue ray combo release from Anti Worlds. This is
Speaker 2: the sister company of Indicator. They are putting out Miss
Speaker 2: Mantler from this year as part of their Anti World's
Speaker 2: Original line. This is a brand new Ben Wheatley film
Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be very experimental. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: curious about this one. This is it is a mind
Speaker 2: bending sci fi thriller in the tradition of Alphaville and Primer,
Speaker 2: but also a love letter to film writing and filmmaking
Speaker 2: in general. So you got a four can of blu
Speaker 2: ray disk in here, you've got exclusive overture film with
Speaker 2: new music by Dave Welder, and then there's an eight
Speaker 2: panel digipak release with new artwork created by Ben Wheatley himself.
Speaker 2: Are you a Ben Wheatley guy? You see much from him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only seen the wacky ones. I haven't seen
Speaker 3: I know he's done so all of them. I'm just
Speaker 3: kidding some more mainstream stuff that I haven't. I love
Speaker 3: kill List and I love Field in England and in
Speaker 3: the Earth. I think it was called yeah He's great,
Speaker 3: you know he's He's It's cool again, like he takes
Speaker 3: a lot of chances.
Speaker 2: So I said the wrong title, Thanks Brendan. This one's
Speaker 2: actually called Bulk, not Mismantler. I apologize, thanks Brendan. That
Speaker 2: was a silly air. When I'm literally staring at the title,
Speaker 2: I was always.
Speaker 3: Looking, we won't battle you tonight for it.
Speaker 2: That's okay, damn all right? That is Bulk by Ben
Speaker 2: Wheatley and going to the next one, or I'm just
Speaker 2: going to click off and do the wrong thing. Full
Speaker 2: Moon is having their holiday horror sale right now. They
Speaker 2: are going to be live until December twenty eighth. If
Speaker 2: you are looking to buy, I will put a link
Speaker 2: to this in the chat. I really don't promote a
Speaker 2: lot of Full Moon stuff because, let's just say, Charles
Speaker 2: Band is not always in it for the right reasons. However,
Speaker 2: I've noticed there's a lot of people that have never
Speaker 2: heard of Full Moon before messaging me. Lately, feel really
Speaker 2: people getting into this stuff, and so I wanted to
Speaker 2: share in their stuff. Is easily the only cost effective
Speaker 2: time to buy it, because you're not getting the highest
Speaker 2: quality stuff. But if you're gonna get it, get it
Speaker 2: on sale. Please, It's a good time to get it.
Speaker 2: So check it out at the link if you want it.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Full Moon stuff? You and
Speaker 2: I have never talked about Full Moon stuff at all?
Speaker 3: No, I you know, I mean, I again, I hate
Speaker 3: saying it. I have them, they're you know, but they're
Speaker 3: they're in.
Speaker 2: They haven't been.
Speaker 3: Watched yet, so I don't know, but I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say, you know, I
Speaker 3: prefer the European titles that they're putting out. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I I hate my dues with the you know.
Speaker 3: I used to love things like Tourist Trap. I thought
Speaker 3: was great and I thought David Smoller from them, He's
Speaker 3: definitely somebody you know who had hid stuff on his
Speaker 3: mind and was you know, things like you know, and
Speaker 3: I love Laser Blast, but once you know, starting with
Speaker 3: like you know, things like The Alchemist or whatever, it's
Speaker 3: really unfair of me to even talk about them. Because
Speaker 3: I saw them in probably a highly inebriated state back
Speaker 3: in the day on opening day, and I don't really
Speaker 3: remember much. It's hard to it's hard. I was, I
Speaker 3: think under the proper I was in the proper you know, mindset,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I just don't remember them. So it's
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, one of those times where
Speaker 3: when I celebrate like a week off at some point
Speaker 3: that's you know, I'm going to start going through all
Speaker 3: those things like hand handover fist.
Speaker 2: All the trancers and Ginger dead Man films, got it.
Speaker 2: I will hold you to that. You know. It's next
Speaker 2: up and right, yeah. Yeah. February twenty third, over in
Speaker 2: the UK, we are getting a blu ray from Central
Speaker 2: City Midi Media of a brand new film called The
Speaker 2: Way We Talk from twenty twenty four. This says it
Speaker 2: is a soul searching story about three friends, Wolf, Allen
Speaker 2: and Sophie, who have different conditions of deafness. When Sophie
Speaker 2: graduates from the university and starts a new job, she
Speaker 2: realizes that she has been struggling to be seen as normal.
Speaker 2: Tensions grow between the three friends as they find themselves
Speaker 2: conflicting over how best to communicate with the world while
Speaker 2: remaining true to themselves. Now this sounds good. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've never seen it, Howard, because it's brand new, never
Speaker 2: heard of it. But the main reason I want to
Speaker 2: highlight this we got a commentary with the director with
Speaker 2: mister Frank Jing. We don't get a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: that isn't like old school Hong Kong stuff, and he
Speaker 2: went and did this commentary live with the director. So
Speaker 2: this is cool. Wanted to highlight it. Sounds like a
Speaker 2: good movie. I kind of want to see this one.
Speaker 3: Very cool. Yeah, No, I've never heard of it before.
Speaker 3: Automatically on the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Next February twelfth on Blu ray over in the
Speaker 2: UK from screen Bound is the story of Skids, Scotland's
Speaker 2: number one punk band. This is a brand new documentary.
Speaker 2: This will be limited to a thousand copies. We've got
Speaker 2: a live in concert at Guildford, a double sided poster
Speaker 2: and a sticker sheet. Have you ever been super into
Speaker 2: punk music?
Speaker 3: Mister berger e you know that's my erar.
Speaker 2: Yep. How do you feel about the Skids? Great?
Speaker 3: I have pretty much most everything they've done on vinyl
Speaker 3: that's back in the you know, no, great no again,
Speaker 3: and screen Bounds coming out with some great stuff lately.
Speaker 3: So a lot of these companies, you know, I can't
Speaker 3: even believe there's more coming out of the woodwork and
Speaker 3: some really great kind I've never heard of half these
Speaker 3: companies now, but screen Bound has been doing some really
Speaker 3: good stuff this year. So I'm I'm really really glad
Speaker 3: to hear that they would care about, you know, something
Speaker 3: like this. I'm anxious to see it now.
Speaker 2: All right, So the Skids Rock the Skids next up
Speaker 2: again over in the UK. February twenty third. We'd already
Speaker 2: heard about this, but Vision's Home Video is releasing a
Speaker 2: four K of Dog Tooth. This is the Yorgos Lanthemus
Speaker 2: film Dog Tooth, and it will also get a Blu
Speaker 2: Ray release if you are not and this will have
Speaker 2: the brand new Dolby Vision four K master supervised by Yourgos,
Speaker 2: audio commentary with a couple of the stars from the
Speaker 2: film interview with Yorgos from two thousand and nine, there's
Speaker 2: an LFF screen talk from twenty twenty five, and then
Speaker 2: some deleted scenes and trailers these releases. This will have
Speaker 2: a slipcover and four art cards and a poster, but
Speaker 2: that is it. I don't think there's gonna be much
Speaker 2: different from the keynot release here in the States, So
Speaker 2: if you're in the UK, this will probably be the
Speaker 2: best way to buy it. But if you already got
Speaker 2: the keynot, probably not much of a reason to upgrade.
Speaker 2: It's probably not even an upgrade. It's probably about identical
Speaker 2: doc Tooth. Have you seen this one?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that one, but I like the director.
Speaker 3: He makes me laugh, he's disturbing.
Speaker 2: He's great, and this is the film that broke him
Speaker 2: into the scene. It did very well at festivals like
Speaker 2: Tyler and the chat is saying I wish I got
Speaker 2: the hype. I get it. I like dog Tooth. It's
Speaker 2: not my favorite, although I don't many people were. Dog
Speaker 2: Tooth is still their favorite. Lanthemost film, which is I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's made such great cinema since then, so
Speaker 2: I could not see picking that one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know who turned him on to me was
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Thompson, frequent frequent co pilot with commentary. I mean,
Speaker 3: he he's the one who you know, just like handed
Speaker 3: over like the whole collection to me. I'm playing that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I actually got through probably a good half hour. This
Speaker 3: is all I get a chance to do of Dog Tooth.
Speaker 3: I was, I mean, I was, I was in love
Speaker 3: with it. It clicked with me. So I'm I didn't
Speaker 3: know this was getting a huge treatment. I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to that. I love to see if the extras are
Speaker 3: are much different from uh, you know, from country to country.
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what they do with this one.
Speaker 3: Do they do? They say, did you say what extras
Speaker 3: are going to be on this?
Speaker 2: Or no? Yeah, we got a commentary. The big thing
Speaker 2: is none of it is new. There's a screen talk
Speaker 2: from LFF screen for twenty twenty five, and then the
Speaker 2: interview with Jorgos from two thousand and nine. But everything
Speaker 2: there except for the scan is all archival, or at
Speaker 2: least was on the keynot release. I think the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five talk was brand new to that keynot disc
Speaker 2: Cool all right. Next up is Genghis Khan from nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five getting a Blu ray release from Alliance Home Entertainment,
Speaker 2: which you may remember is the new name of Mill Creek,
Speaker 2: carrying that reputation into the storm. This is a fairly
Speaker 2: big one, omarsh Reef, Stephen Boyd. I'm sure, this is
Speaker 2: one that you've seen at least two or three times, at.
Speaker 3: One hundred times, right right, yeah, yep, great, great movie.
Speaker 3: You know it came. It's one of those things that
Speaker 3: was going in the wake of Lawrence of Arabia, you know,
Speaker 3: and it you know, you have to have a taste
Speaker 3: for it because you know it it's nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3: So I just I'm always careful with people who are
Speaker 3: expecting a very different look of something, you know. I
Speaker 3: mean people you know nowadays there and it's not a
Speaker 3: new movie anymore, but they're looking at like Gladiator as
Speaker 3: like the definition of an epic motion picture. And to
Speaker 3: me that was like, yeah, I actually liked the movie.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it when I verson of it. Now
Speaker 3: of course, I'm ridly all the way. I even love
Speaker 3: the sequel, you know, so I have a different my
Speaker 3: brain's been poisoned in a really good way, I think.
Speaker 3: But this is something I definitely would would, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean I watched this so many times as a kid,
Speaker 3: and family we saw it. I mean I was, you know,
Speaker 3: post infancy. I mean it was probably on a reissue
Speaker 3: I think, like an nineteen sixty nine or seventy or
Speaker 3: seventy one, probably a reissue in the theater. If it
Speaker 3: wasn't like a re release, it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: local theater had had a rent of it, and it
Speaker 3: was to put it up with something else. But I
Speaker 3: remember seeing it, and I you know, but I've watched
Speaker 3: one hundred times since then. It's itit's great. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like classic comic version of history. It's
Speaker 3: you know, you just have to have a you have
Speaker 3: to have a taste for that, you know, Laurence Arabia.
Speaker 3: You know, it introduced new language that was cinema, but
Speaker 3: these other ones were sort of you know, and who
Speaker 3: did this again, it's this Henry Levitt And I can't remember,
Speaker 3: I am not sure there the directory. Yeah, nineteen sixty five, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five Henry Levin. Yeah, that was right, and
Speaker 3: he did the Levin to the James Mason during to
Speaker 3: the Center of the Earth. You know, so you know,
Speaker 3: it's it has like, you know, British people playing you know, Asians,
Speaker 3: and you know, so you have to you have to
Speaker 3: really you know, I mean, like you know, not not
Speaker 3: just British white people playing Asians. So there's always going
Speaker 3: to be something that's gonna piss somebody off. Nowadays, just go,
Speaker 3: you know, watch it with context. It's it's just a
Speaker 3: really fun adventure movie, you know.
Speaker 2: So speaking of that, they didn't even port over the
Speaker 2: extras from the Twilight Time release, which is kind of frustrating.
Speaker 2: I am. I am happy to see that it's back
Speaker 2: in print at least. However, come on, there's already stuff
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Give us some of the extras, seriously, especially anything to
Speaker 3: do with Julie Kergo for sure. I mean, give it
Speaker 3: a break that I could, I could listen to and
Speaker 3: I have listened to her. I have watched things, listen
Speaker 3: to her commentary. You know, I do not fall asleep
Speaker 3: during her commentaries, even though that's my preferred way of
Speaker 3: falling asleep. Is you know, so like you know, learning
Speaker 3: in the back of falling asleep and listening to someone
Speaker 3: tell you every all the brilliant thoughts.
Speaker 2: They have the dulc tones of Eugenio Erkuilani. Yep.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's there's a few people. There's
Speaker 3: a few people out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, all right, next, it's true, I think
Speaker 2: we'd an archive is releasing on March twenty fourth Collector's Vault,
Speaker 2: Volume two of their Looney Tunes collection. Now, the big
Speaker 2: thing here, this stuff is always super confusing because they've
Speaker 2: got the Collector's Choice, Collector's Vault, they've got the Platinum collection.
Speaker 2: Is what is happening? Okay? So the truth is we've
Speaker 2: got two discs here, and the big thing is one
Speaker 2: of these discs have never been on Blu Ray or
Speaker 2: DVD ever, so it's the first time ever being on disc,
Speaker 2: and then the other disc it's their first time ever
Speaker 2: remastered in HD. So you've got a good like fifty
Speaker 2: shorts coming as part of this, and we can guarantee
Speaker 2: none of them have ever been on Blu Ray remastered
Speaker 2: in HD at all. We can also see that these
Speaker 2: have never been on disc for half of them. That's
Speaker 2: a big deal. It is just nice to see these
Speaker 2: added to it and see that grow. I gotta admit, though,
Speaker 2: it would be so nice just to see a full
Speaker 2: Loony Tunes collection, or at least all at once, so
Speaker 2: we don't have to drip these out over nine years
Speaker 2: or whatever. Just give us, what is it going to be,
Speaker 2: a forty three disc set? I'll pay it just tell
Speaker 2: me what to pay. I will buy it, all right.
Speaker 3: Well, they'll make sure that happens once you pay, once
Speaker 3: you buy all the separate ones.
Speaker 2: And the sad thing is if I don't buy all
Speaker 2: of those, it will never exist.
Speaker 3: There you go. I was just say, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: and that's also I think these will be uncut as well,
Speaker 3: which is good. I mean yes, because that's been happening.
Speaker 3: I've been watching things and things, you know, I guess
Speaker 3: over the years, I don't know, social climates changed. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they you know, what they do, but
Speaker 3: or if they just can't get the elements.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But you know, this is just always something very tempting
Speaker 3: when they start really doing these beautiful with re releases
Speaker 3: of these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a must one. Our archive animation lately
Speaker 2: has been knocking it out of the park, so this
Speaker 2: is not even a hesitation for me. Next up, the
Speaker 2: brand new film Nuremberg from this year is getting a
Speaker 2: Sony Pictures release on February tenth. For some it will
Speaker 2: be disappointing that it is Blu Ray and DBD only
Speaker 2: not getting a four K release. I thought this film
Speaker 2: was pretty wonderful. I expected to go into this and
Speaker 2: walk away disappointed, but I was surprised. I enjoyed a
Speaker 2: lot of the performances in this. The story not surprising,
Speaker 2: we know how it ends. However, it is one that
Speaker 2: I think is important and gives some really great content
Speaker 2: text to the history in a period where we need
Speaker 2: to hear about this history specifically.
Speaker 3: Have not seen it. I've heard, you know, back and forth,
Speaker 3: Like I think people wanted, you know, the critics that
Speaker 3: I read and I try not to read reviews before
Speaker 3: I've seen the movie, but that I think, you know,
Speaker 3: they say like that they took liberties with with the facts.
Speaker 3: But I think judging from what I've seen in other
Speaker 3: other people, especially what you just said, I think it's
Speaker 3: the point is it's it's like, you know, like a
Speaker 3: Ken Russell film, history is distilled into drama, not documentary.
Speaker 3: And I think that you know, it had to be
Speaker 3: sculpted for you know, the the overall point, which you're right,
Speaker 3: is extremely important to remember and uh and to make
Speaker 3: sure it doesn't happen again. Uh So, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in seeing this.
Speaker 2: Probably the worst thing I can say about this one
Speaker 2: is there some like timeline Whiplash. They really take their
Speaker 2: time leading up to the point of the courtroom trial
Speaker 2: where they show the film from the camps, and that
Speaker 2: video is very emotionally like it's supposed to be heavy
Speaker 2: in that moment, but then everything after that moment is
Speaker 2: like flying by, like somebody's just running by you. So
Speaker 2: they took their time. They really contextualize all the characters.
Speaker 2: They showed the short film and then zoom after the
Speaker 2: races of the ending. But other than that, it's an
Speaker 2: interesting movie.
Speaker 3: I thought, is it a long film?
Speaker 2: It's yeah, like two and a half to two hours
Speaker 2: forty minutes something like that.
Speaker 3: Because Judgment at Nuremberg, just the Stanley Kramer one that
Speaker 3: was three hours and fifteen minutes or.
Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, And obviously I don't know have
Speaker 2: things changed. I feel like there's always complaints about modern
Speaker 2: film being too long, and then you'll get like seven
Speaker 2: indie movies every week that are eighty three minutes. So
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I couldn't care less as long as it's fun movie.
Speaker 2: If it's great, it's great, I'm down for it.
Speaker 3: I do not judge a movie on the length. I
Speaker 3: try to understand why it's that length. So that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's bring it on. It's fine, and we'll be honest.
Speaker 3: You're gonna pay money for it, give me, give me something,
Speaker 3: and usually the.
Speaker 2: Same amount of money. That's the funny part. I will
Speaker 2: say that the length sometimes dictates if I can watch it.
Speaker 2: I will admit to that.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I know that that's my story to at
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: All right, so next month. Music Box Films on January
Speaker 2: twenty seventh, is releasing a Blu ray and DVD of
Speaker 2: a Little Prayer from twenty twenty three, filmed by Angus McLaughlan,
Speaker 2: which is supposed to be really great with Jane Levy,
Speaker 2: David Strethrain and and a camp in this one. And
Speaker 2: this is a heart tugging drama about finding kindred spirits
Speaker 2: and unexpected places. You can reorder this now. It is
Speaker 2: available next up the air forty four, forty four. That
Speaker 2: is always a mouthful to say. They have announced that
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six they are releasing Blu rays of
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight City Warriors and two thousand's Teenage Hooker
Speaker 2: Became a Killing Machine. If that is not a seductive
Speaker 2: enough title for you, man, you have issues. Yeah, these
Speaker 2: both look and sound great, and I am very curious
Speaker 2: to check both of these out. Have you seen either
Speaker 2: one of these?
Speaker 3: No, but they're on the queue now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The teenage Hooker movie. It says a high school
Speaker 2: girl who moonlights as a prostitute is revived as a
Speaker 2: killing machine after she is murdered by her teacher. Doesn't
Speaker 2: that just sound like I have to see that movie
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: That's what it's there for. I'm glad there's some people
Speaker 3: there who know what we're waiting for.
Speaker 2: That's good. Oh yeah, this has bound to be some
Speaker 2: people's favorite movie next year, all right. Next, Speaking of
Speaker 2: Aero Video and Warner Brothers projects, they just today finally
Speaker 2: confirmed that Mortal Kombat from nineteen ninety five is getting
Speaker 2: the deluxe four K treatment. Are you working on a
Speaker 2: three hour dummy death visual essay for Mortal Kombat? If
Speaker 2: you are just wink at the camera, Not.
Speaker 3: Yet, but well yeah, I might have to enquire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one that has been speculated for quite
Speaker 2: some time, and it's just nice to see a full,
Speaker 2: full confirmation about that. It's this is many people's favorite
Speaker 2: movie from their childhoods. I will admit it is not mine.
Speaker 2: Did you ever see this one when it came out.
Speaker 3: I think I have to confess. I think I think.
Speaker 3: I think I actually walked out. I didn't instigate it,
Speaker 3: but I think the people that I was with, I
Speaker 3: think demanded that we leave. It's never me.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't do that by practice.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't. I don't think I
Speaker 2: would expect you to walk out of films. Is that
Speaker 2: something that you've done many times?
Speaker 3: Oh, I've done it many times, but again never on
Speaker 3: my instigation. I went back and finished it at some
Speaker 3: point that it never got around to doing it with
Speaker 3: Mortal gomback.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they will say, get over here so you
Speaker 2: can watch that one.
Speaker 3: How you never know. I'm gonna start asking questions.
Speaker 2: Next up, we got some release details of the brand
Speaker 2: new release of Five Nights of Freddy's Two Howard's Next
Speaker 2: Favorite film. This is from this year, coming out on
Speaker 2: four K Steelbook standard, four K Blu ray, and DVD
Speaker 2: because this is a money making hit for Universal. Even
Speaker 2: though this movie was straight garbage. I hated this movie.
Speaker 2: It was really terrible. There are gonna be some extras
Speaker 2: on this There's gonna be revealing interviews behind the scenes
Speaker 2: footage with the cast. There's gonna be a stunt doubles
Speaker 2: of puppeteers picturettes. There is going to be Mangle coming
Speaker 2: to life as nightmarish and multi limbed monstrosity. The puppet
Speaker 2: in this. Uh, there's gonna be a cast and crew
Speaker 2: revealing how the multiple methods used to turn the marionette
Speaker 2: into an eerie entity whose unique design and hunting movements
Speaker 2: are unlike any other animatronic. That kind of sounds interesting.
Speaker 2: And then a featurette called Sensory Overload, which, no, thank you,
Speaker 2: this film was sensory overload enough.
Speaker 3: Now you even trigued me.
Speaker 2: No, it's bad this. You know, we keep harping on
Speaker 2: how bad AI is going to be. I swear the
Speaker 2: dialogue in this may have been written by Ai, because
Speaker 2: it is atrocious. There is nothing human sounding about the
Speaker 2: dialogue in this film.
Speaker 3: It's terrible. You get these reviews like this, and now
Speaker 3: you've intrigued me so much that these are the next
Speaker 3: movies that I'm actually gonna make time to watch.
Speaker 2: It's great, oh man, go watching her in Berg instead.
Speaker 2: Next up, some that I've never heard of. Somehow, even
Speaker 2: though I've always loved Walton Goggins, But we got two
Speaker 2: pieces here. April seventh, Blu Ray, coming from a light
Speaker 2: Year entertainment of Randy in the Mob from two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven. This is directed and starring Ray McKinnon, and
Speaker 2: I think he directs this. I'd have to check that
Speaker 2: I might be wrong there. It might be a different
Speaker 2: name entirely and I missed it. But this is freshly
Speaker 2: scanned in four K from the original materials, and this
Speaker 2: is supposed to be pretty good, some mafia comedy. It
Speaker 2: will also include the Academy Award winning The Accountant, which
Speaker 2: is a forty minute short film starring Walton Goggins and
Speaker 2: Ray McKinnon. But also on that same day they are
Speaker 2: putting out a single disc release of Just The Accountant
Speaker 2: as well, So if you want that and you don't
Speaker 2: want Randy the Mob, you can just pick that one up.
Speaker 2: But I love Walton Goggins and I need to see these.
Speaker 2: I do wish that they had not poorly photoshopped Walton
Speaker 2: Goggins into this scene because that looks really terrible for
Speaker 2: a cover. But I'm definitely curious about seeing these.
Speaker 3: You haven't never heard of them until now, but I
Speaker 3: love that cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea Walton Goggins was as an
Speaker 2: Oscar winning short film from two thousand and one. But
Speaker 2: I got to see it, all right, a film that
Speaker 2: Howard has seen at least nineteen times, I'm sure. April seventh,
Speaker 2: the Russ Meyer Film's estate is putting out Faster Pussycat
Speaker 2: Kill Kill, and sadly they're not doing a damn thing
Speaker 2: with it. This is the exact same disc that has
Speaker 2: been floating around for a while, so it's nice that
Speaker 2: this will be easily accessible, but it's not newly scanned.
Speaker 2: There are no extras on it. I don't even think
Speaker 2: there's a menu on this. It literally just pops up
Speaker 2: and plays the film with a really terrible version of
Speaker 2: the movie. It's basically just like a DVD upscale, I believe,
Speaker 2: and not even a good one at that. How much
Speaker 2: do you enjoy Faster Pussycat Kill Kills?
Speaker 3: So it's amazing. It's most Dressmayer until literally little low
Speaker 3: Pandora peaks. I think have to a visit again. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't even remember what I thought of that.
Speaker 3: You know I'm playing that much, But uh no, he's
Speaker 3: he's unique. He's just a master he's i mean an
Speaker 3: incredible visual director and he's very funny and very funny
Speaker 3: work with some really really sharp people. So no, I
Speaker 3: mean that's it's an amazing film. And you know, I
Speaker 3: mean if you can't, if you don't notice the influence
Speaker 3: on on Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I think you're just turning
Speaker 3: a blind eye. And you know it's a it's a
Speaker 3: it's a pretty influential you know film as well, but
Speaker 3: really funny and just really well then I don't know
Speaker 3: how you know, It's like it's like with Ken Russell.
Speaker 3: There's certain people where they could have absolutely no budget whatsoever,
Speaker 3: and and actors who've never been in front of a camera,
Speaker 3: but they have them really working at like a level
Speaker 3: best and and always with a certain choreography that only
Speaker 3: only they can do with actors. I mean, it's really crazy.
Speaker 3: Like the rhythms, it's like they're active. You think they
Speaker 3: would be acted for the rhythms that he has in
Speaker 3: his editing. And I just don't understand how certain people
Speaker 3: get away with that. That's a that's a pretty masterful
Speaker 3: movie and it is a terrible shame because that film
Speaker 3: is I think pushing sixty No, yeah, pushing sixty now,
Speaker 3: I guess, and I mean, the elements are not getting
Speaker 3: any better, so you know it's a shame.
Speaker 2: Well, and the vid is saying this Blu Ray looks excellent.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I wouldn't say excellent. And
Speaker 2: I only say that based on what seven has done
Speaker 2: for the other russ Meyers that they did. They've put
Speaker 2: out five them up, okay, and those are stunning. So
Speaker 2: just for anybody that's gonna ask about this later, the
Speaker 2: big problem here is the russ Meyer estate is saying
Speaker 2: supposedly they are demanding like literally upwards of a million
Speaker 2: dollars to license just this one movie. And I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that's that's not gonna happen. This film is never gonna
Speaker 2: make a million dollars, even though it's a great movie.
Speaker 2: No boutique could ever pay a million dollars to put
Speaker 2: this out because you would have to sell so many
Speaker 2: copies of this to make that up that it would
Speaker 2: just never happen. And even something like a Kickstarter would
Speaker 2: never be enough unless everybody that was willing to buy
Speaker 2: the Blu Ray that has already bought it would guarantee
Speaker 2: that they would donate like four hundred dollars each. It's
Speaker 2: just never gonna happen. So the only way I see
Speaker 2: this ever happening is if they drastically lower their price
Speaker 2: by literally, like I don't know, like eighty nine percent
Speaker 2: something like that at absolute most. Probably even more than that,
Speaker 2: probably more like ninety three percent is more realistic. Yeah, good,
Speaker 2: good movie, and nay, great movie, but yeah, we deserve
Speaker 2: a better release with some contextual extras. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Next up, we are getting from Unearthed Films on April seventh,
Speaker 2: a blu ray of Cradle of Fear, starring Danny Filth
Speaker 2: from the band Cradle of Filth. And that is probably
Speaker 2: the only reason this has ever been a relevant movie.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a two disc release. The first
Speaker 2: disc is gonna have a making of Cradle of Fear.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have a special German DVD making of for
Speaker 2: Cradle of Fear. There's an important Words featurette, behind the
Speaker 2: scenes gallery, some trailers. But the big draw here for
Speaker 2: many people might be a short film collection that is
Speaker 2: attached to this by the director. We've got a short
Speaker 2: film called Chainsaw scum Fuck. Doesn't that sound amazing? Howard? Uh,
Speaker 2: there's a short called bad Manner, bad Karma, drill bit,
Speaker 2: night pastor bullshit news film extremes, three promo Borderline, and
Speaker 2: then a shorts behind the scenes gallery and some trailers.
Speaker 2: That is all we've got.
Speaker 3: I would give that a go.
Speaker 2: I like Cradle of Film. Adam says he's friends with
Speaker 2: the director. Nice.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, right.
Speaker 2: TV, says Meyer state at a singular moment of clarity
Speaker 2: working with seven and probably went back to being crazy
Speaker 2: cool cool cool. Yeah. I mean, I don't know they
Speaker 2: licensed those five even give us another five more. It's
Speaker 2: been more than a year though, which is crazy. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Come on, we've got from VCI on April
Speaker 2: twenty first to double feature of the Crawling Hand and
Speaker 2: the Slime People. This is coming out as Creepy Creatures
Speaker 2: as a double feature, and what's crazy is they poured
Speaker 2: it over all of the extras from the previous releases,
Speaker 2: including the Tom Weaver commentaries, and then this is going
Speaker 2: to have a slip cover on the first fifteen hundred units,
Speaker 2: which for VCI, that's wild. I have never seen either
Speaker 2: one of these Howards. They're great.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, they're great. I don't know about the transfers. I
Speaker 3: have no idea even what the masters are like or
Speaker 3: you know what, it wouldn't matter because both of these
Speaker 3: or I think when when they were at their peak
Speaker 3: on TV, you know, and like this nineteen seventies, you know,
Speaker 3: Saturday Morning, they looked like they were shot on toilet paper,
Speaker 3: like printed on toilet paper. Very worst. It's part of
Speaker 3: the abviance anyway, So I wouldn't go. It would be
Speaker 3: great if they finally but VCI, you know, it's hit
Speaker 3: or miss.
Speaker 2: I really don't know, but.
Speaker 3: Both movies, I have to say. Crawling Hand is extremely disturbing.
Speaker 3: It's a really good, really really good little I guess
Speaker 3: sci fi horror film that I can recommend it. And
Speaker 3: Slime People the same thing. It's just like it's just
Speaker 3: a great you know, early sixties Saturday Morning, you know,
Speaker 3: horror things.
Speaker 2: Matt and a thing.
Speaker 3: So I'd be into at least checking it out. But
Speaker 3: again I wouldn't get hopes too high technically, but you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I have no idea. I haven't haven't really
Speaker 3: seen a vc I released in a long time, so
Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad. So apparently these were released before
Speaker 3: or I know they were on d v D. Didn't
Speaker 3: Rhino put them out on the sounds right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think the Border Books used to sell them for like,
Speaker 3: you know, three ninety nine. In the video, I mean that,
Speaker 3: I remember it looked good enough. But I don't know
Speaker 3: what these new transfers are.
Speaker 2: Going to be. But I would rush them in the movies.
Speaker 3: Especially Crawling Hand I think is pretty cool, actually very disturbing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a good movie.
Speaker 2: Next up another Full Moon title, Maroid, coming to Blu
Speaker 2: Ray for the first time ever on April seventh. This
Speaker 2: is going to have the original video zone on the here,
Speaker 2: original trailer, and then a Full Moon features trailer compilation.
Speaker 2: I believe this is going to include Robert Simon's from
Speaker 2: The Exorcist and yeah Android from ninety three. Have you
Speaker 2: not seen this one either?
Speaker 3: No, come close a couple of times because the title
Speaker 3: is great, So it is great. But I know again,
Speaker 3: it's good to know it's coming.
Speaker 2: Yay full Moon. Next up from this year, Lurker is
Speaker 2: coming on March third on Blu Ray and DVD from movie.
Speaker 2: Sadly no extras on this film. I will say I
Speaker 2: highly recommend this one. This is like a cringe super
Speaker 2: fan type of situation and everything is awkward to the
Speaker 2: nth degree. The acting in this though, is incredible. There's
Speaker 2: a couple of people in this movie that seem like
Speaker 2: they have been their characters their entire lives, and it
Speaker 2: is just so well made. I appreciated this film a lot.
Speaker 2: I liked it enough when I left the theater, but
Speaker 2: this one is weighed on me all summer and into
Speaker 2: the fall. This is a great movie. Cool.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, just on that recommendation alone.
Speaker 2: These I believe that you have seen. March third, we
Speaker 2: beget a blue ray coming from Film Masters called Monster Mayhem,
Speaker 2: and this is a collection of four films that have
Speaker 2: been recently out of print and now you can get
Speaker 2: them all in one package on two press discs. We've
Speaker 2: got the Monster from Green Hell, Frankenstein's Daughter, Giant from
Speaker 2: the Unknown, and The Brain from Planet Aarus. And this
Speaker 2: will bring on the commentaries that were on the previous releases,
Speaker 2: those with Tom Weaver Gary Krutcher. We've got a couple
Speaker 2: other special productions, especially with Steven Arbissett and then Bally
Speaker 2: who Motion Pictures did a couple of things for this.
Speaker 2: Which of these is the best?
Speaker 3: In your These are all great, I mean they're all great,
Speaker 3: But I actually say I love Film Master just so
Speaker 3: I loved working that did a couple of things for
Speaker 3: them too. But I honestly would have loved an opportunity
Speaker 3: to do Giant from the Unknown because Kevin Maher and
Speaker 3: I we actually were it was one of those things
Speaker 3: where we were there is an amazing dummy death in
Speaker 3: that movie. But it's such an actually like sort of
Speaker 3: unintentionally intelligent film culturally, like it was just a smart movie,
Speaker 3: and Kevin had this absolutely brilliant, uh deconstruction of it,
Speaker 3: and we were always you know, on the on the
Speaker 3: cusp of of doing it, you know, drawing out notes,
Speaker 3: drawing out notes, but then something else would take take
Speaker 3: over me would just like I really would have had
Speaker 3: I even known they were doing this, I would have
Speaker 3: I would have offered to do uh that at that
Speaker 3: deconstruction for them for that movie. A Giant from the
Speaker 3: Unknown alone is just a really cool film. But these
Speaker 3: are all great movies, I mean, legitimately great movies like
Speaker 3: Bring from Planet Arrows is. I mean, there's something incredibly
Speaker 3: memorable in all of them, so I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: it's from an era, and none of these movies were
Speaker 3: made to be critically assessed. You know, they were just
Speaker 3: churned out, which to me, we're feels a hell of
Speaker 3: a lot about you know, the filmmakers, that people who
Speaker 3: write it. So I mean, you can, you know, you
Speaker 3: can say these are you know, crap films, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever your your your level is. But honestly, I if
Speaker 3: you're interested in watching some unusually intelligent crap movies, I
Speaker 3: guess I don't know what you know, it's just it's
Speaker 3: just being, you know, a d Z movie filler. These
Speaker 3: are these are the four four really great ones. So
Speaker 3: you know, it's not you know, I definitely think it's
Speaker 3: probably a worthwhile purchase. It's great, great.
Speaker 2: Headcoop says Howard. You should do that as a commentary
Speaker 2: and put it on YouTube so that we can sync
Speaker 2: it up and watch the film with it.
Speaker 3: I may just do the essay anyway and put it
Speaker 3: up just like this, and finally, now somebody might be
Speaker 3: watching it, so I hear, all right, I might just
Speaker 3: throw that up. But it's it's it's better. It's better
Speaker 3: as an essay because you got to hear Kevin Kevin's
Speaker 3: Kevin's take is just genius. I mean, like it usually is,
Speaker 3: but this is really to me. Yeah, Giants and the
Speaker 3: Unknown love to hear if people think of that one,
Speaker 3: that's a great movie.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to fly through these. But everything
Speaker 2: else tonight is all film masters. So Howard and I
Speaker 2: have both worked with filmmasters before. I respect the hell
Speaker 2: out of those guys. They put a lot of thought
Speaker 2: into what they're doing. A lot of their choices are
Speaker 2: public domain, and they're not getting like the best materials,
Speaker 2: so keep that in mind. However, they are usually brand
Speaker 2: new four K or two K scans. Quite often they're
Speaker 2: not necessarily restored to what you would expect from like
Speaker 2: a boutique release. But the other big plus is most
Speaker 2: of these are quite inexpensive. So if any of these
Speaker 2: movies peque your interest, write them down. I believe you
Speaker 2: can look at their website and see rough date. For
Speaker 2: most of these, I've just got like a month that
Speaker 2: they're coming out. We don't even have a specific date yet,
Speaker 2: but we should be finding that out soon. So next
Speaker 2: up is The Black Six from nineteen seventy nine. Oh yay,
Speaker 2: this is coming in a limited collect limited edition collection
Speaker 2: release here soon. No no month, no no date, no estimation.
Speaker 2: Or anything like that. This will have a commentary from
Speaker 2: Robert Kelly and Daniel Budnick, and that is it. These
Speaker 2: these limited edition titles always have a slipcover and then
Speaker 2: they've got a booklet with an essay. But that's all
Speaker 2: we know at the moment. This is interesting. I believe
Speaker 2: this was also unrestored, but it was also included on
Speaker 2: one of the AGFA releases over the last year. So
Speaker 2: nice to see this getting one that will have a
Speaker 2: nice restoration and a full release and with some contextual extras.
Speaker 3: Great movie, Matt simber Right, I.
Speaker 2: Believe so, and I've never seen this one.
Speaker 3: This one great movie.
Speaker 2: Yep. Next up is Shirley Temple, coming on Blu ray
Speaker 2: and DVD from Filmmasters in March. In the Little Princess.
Speaker 2: This one is interesting because it is going to get
Speaker 2: a brand new two K or four K scan, we
Speaker 2: don't know which yet. There will not be any extras
Speaker 2: on it at all, but there will be subtitles. But
Speaker 2: the big thing is this was a Fox title and
Speaker 2: this is now in the public domain, so that's the
Speaker 2: only reason they're able to even put this out. So
Speaker 2: this is like, if you want this on physical media,
Speaker 2: this may not happen much. So check out the Shirley
Speaker 2: Temple release.
Speaker 3: It's actually a really good movie too, So I mean
Speaker 3: it's not like Shirley Temple. Why, I mean give it
Speaker 3: you know, read a little bit about it, and I
Speaker 3: think I think it's that.
Speaker 2: To me, it's a shame.
Speaker 3: There's no contextual info with it. That's a that's a shame.
Speaker 3: There's no extras. But I think it's probably in the
Speaker 3: contract whatever, the licensing contract. But great movie, good movie.
Speaker 2: My big thing is it's a shame that we're not
Speaker 2: going to ever get like most of the Shirley Temple releases,
Speaker 2: a nice big, you know, extravagant restorations with a bunch
Speaker 2: of supplements because they they're they're important. They were huge films.
Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, time marches on, right.
Speaker 2: It's true. Next up is The Snows of killiman Jarro
Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty two. This is coming in March on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray DVD. This is the Gregory Peckins wu'san Hayward
Speaker 2: film again two K or four K scan and there
Speaker 2: will be no supplements, but be able to get it
Speaker 2: on Blu Ray and DVD. Tell us about it, Howard, Now, just.
Speaker 3: Another great, you know, really really cool, cool movie. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to remember who the director was. I think it
Speaker 3: was Henry King. It's the other, It's the other, Henry
Speaker 3: Henry Levin, and there's Henry King. Henry Henry King did
Speaker 3: a lot of greg the Gregory Peck twentieth century Fox stuff,
Speaker 3: and this was a big if I'm right, this was
Speaker 3: a big Darryl Zannik early you know, big Daryl Zannic
Speaker 3: production for that era. If there's one reason to see it,
Speaker 3: I mean, you have an amazing cast. If anyone's big
Speaker 3: fans of like the Seventh Old Age of Sinbad, the
Speaker 3: the Evil Wizard in that by Torren Thatcher, he's in
Speaker 3: this and he's pretty memorable in this film. But the
Speaker 3: real reason to watch it is because the cinematographer of
Speaker 3: the Franklin Schaffner the sixty eight Planet of the Apes,
Speaker 3: Leon Shamroy, shot it and it is literally one of
Speaker 3: a kind. It's really great. So it's a shame there's
Speaker 3: no extras, because this film, of all things, would call
Speaker 3: for it. There's so many amazing people involved in this,
Speaker 3: you know movie, but great, a great film. I don't
Speaker 3: think anyone be disappointed unless it's just a you know,
Speaker 3: a mediocre you know, transfer or something, but it's a
Speaker 3: it's a wild, great epic. You know, it's it's Hemingway.
Speaker 3: So you know, you're get you're already going to get something. Uh.
Speaker 3: Anytimes a major studio tries to adapt Hemingway, especially in
Speaker 3: that era where Hemingway was actually you know, still alive,
Speaker 3: pretty perverse. So there's there's there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: cool juxtapositions between the source material and you know, the
Speaker 3: actual the actual film version. Great, great reason to watch
Speaker 3: it alone. Great good films, great film.
Speaker 2: Another good reason to watch a movie is William Holden.
Speaker 2: William Holden is in nineteen forties Our Town coming in
Speaker 2: March on Blu Ray DVD from Filmasters, same thing two
Speaker 2: K or four K scan, no supplements, but nice to
Speaker 2: see this come out. You can look to hear that well.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, these are you know, these movies
Speaker 3: that when they come out, I kind of like hope
Speaker 3: that I get some context for finally, you know, I like,
Speaker 3: you know, I love I love the people that are
Speaker 3: that are being asked to participate and share their knowledge
Speaker 3: to research and their their own perceptions. We're getting some
Speaker 3: really really good people in the past, especially in the
Speaker 3: past year, surfacing up. So you know, it's just a shame.
Speaker 3: But you know, the movie good enough. Let's get a
Speaker 3: great version of the movie and then you know, I
Speaker 3: can always go do my own research. Good good film.
Speaker 2: We got. Another one of those coming from nineteen thirty
Speaker 2: six is Dancing Pirate. This is coming in March on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray DVD. Same thing, most supplements two K or
Speaker 2: four K scan. We'll figure that out eventually. There will
Speaker 2: be subtitles. This is the first dancing musical in one
Speaker 2: hundred percent new technicolor as advertised the cover.
Speaker 3: Wow, well maybe sometimes that's all you need. But Dancing
Speaker 3: Pirates no context. It hurts, you know, I want no context.
Speaker 3: Just would I would love just like, you know, the
Speaker 3: film on one disc and like three discs of just
Speaker 3: context for that one. I've never heard of this thing,
Speaker 3: so I am very excited.
Speaker 2: Too amazing. Next up is The North Star. This is
Speaker 2: coming in March on Blu Ray DVD. This is from
Speaker 2: nineteen forty three. It says a Ukrainian village must suddenly
Speaker 2: contend with the Nazi invasion of June nineteen forty one.
Speaker 2: Later re edited and released as Armored Attack. This one
Speaker 2: again two K or four K scan, no supplements, but
Speaker 2: it will have subtitles. That is all we got. Have
Speaker 2: you seen this one?
Speaker 3: I think I have seen it under Armored Attack, which
Speaker 3: might have been I don't know if that's a slightly
Speaker 3: different version. I'm not sure, but it's Lewis Milestone. So
Speaker 3: I've been you know, I've definitely been a fan. And
Speaker 3: it's weird to think, I don't know, I mean's shot
Speaker 3: by one of the greatest cinematog going. Everyone's one of
Speaker 3: the greatest cinematographers of all.
Speaker 2: Time back then.
Speaker 3: But James Wong Howe who shot John Frankenheimer's Seconds, and
Speaker 3: he shot the Molly mcguires And if any I did
Speaker 3: the the commentary and the extra for the imprint version
Speaker 3: of the Molly mcguires, yes, thank you, thank you. If
Speaker 3: anyone wants to understand where James Wong Howe ended up,
Speaker 3: my god, not far from he started off. This guy
Speaker 3: was just like innovator out of the gate. When you know,
Speaker 3: one of one of the very few Asian cinematographers who
Speaker 3: got you know, the prestige treatment in Hollywood. He's just
Speaker 3: an innovator. And brilliant. But the movie is another one
Speaker 3: of these movies, man.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just like he.
Speaker 3: Got some you got a brilliant group of people making
Speaker 3: this thing. So yeah, I mean a hundred. I would definitely,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I mean Lewis Milestone, he did you know,
Speaker 3: I'm all Quiet on the Western Front, the nineteen thirties version,
Speaker 3: he did well. I think it was probably mainly directed
Speaker 3: by Marlon Brando, but Brando's Mutiny on the Bounty, you know,
Speaker 3: but he but He's done some amazing, amazing movies, so
Speaker 3: I definitely give it a shot. Especially it's such a
Speaker 3: rare title. I mean, it really isn't you know never.
Speaker 3: You don't really hear about this, But it's a cool film.
Speaker 2: You shouted it out, so I'll give it another moment
Speaker 2: in the sun here. But The Molly Maguires is a
Speaker 2: film that I just on the surface of it, was
Speaker 2: not super interested in, took a chance on it ended
Speaker 2: up loving that movie. There are so many compelling moments,
Speaker 2: and then the way that they shoot, like these fucking
Speaker 2: explosions in this movie look so great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially if you're stoned. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is Martin Ritt, who did you know Casey's Shadow and
Speaker 3: j Norma Ray very socially conscious in this movie is
Speaker 3: very socially conscious. But Walter Bernstein, who was blacklisted, brilliant writer,
Speaker 3: who was blacklisted for years in the fifties and was
Speaker 3: you know, coming out of that blacklist nineteen seventies the
Speaker 3: end of the sixties, he wrote the script for it,
Speaker 3: very hands on with the production. And Martin is just
Speaker 3: a brilliant under Even though he has always been highly rated,
Speaker 3: he's he's underrated or under discussed. I mean, it's sort
Speaker 3: of like he was from that period of time in
Speaker 3: the fifties and sixties with you know, the these kind
Speaker 3: of movies. He came up around the same time and
Speaker 3: as Sidney Lamett, uh and you know, but this movie
Speaker 3: showed that he working very closely, you know, with Bernstein.
Speaker 3: Molly Maguires is just a really cinematic film. It's it's
Speaker 3: it's has a great script, good but a brilliant structure
Speaker 3: that definitely goes in and out.
Speaker 2: Of of.
Speaker 3: Really truly poetic cinema. Great great movie and if you
Speaker 3: are even slightly buzzed, you'll be thanking stars for natural chemicals.
Speaker 3: It's really fantastic trippy movie, really tribut movie, but a
Speaker 3: great and incredible I mean really the dynamics of the
Speaker 3: cast lates that Samantha Eggar, I can't believe she passed
Speaker 3: away this year from the Brew the Mama from the Brood.
Speaker 3: She's amazing. But Richard Harris and Sean Connery at Connor
Speaker 3: is great loggerheads and another the whole cast, Anthony Zerby
Speaker 3: If anyone's Anthony Anthony zerbey Fan, I was lucky enough
Speaker 3: to do a phone con injury with him. He was
Speaker 3: a lovely guy. I'm pretty frank about stuff. It was
Speaker 3: a little featurette that I did for that disc as
Speaker 3: well as the commentary. But really great, great movie. So
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad there's a champion of that out there.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Ryan, that's great that it hooked you.
Speaker 3: Great movie, It was good. It was a good one.
Speaker 3: Sean Connery was great in it.
Speaker 2: All right, next up. This film has been released eight
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two thousand times. Coming in March on
Speaker 2: Blue Raine d D from Film Masters is refer Madness
Speaker 2: from nineteen thirty six. Again two K, four K scan,
Speaker 2: no supplements, but it will be out there. And there
Speaker 2: will be some titles. Everybody's heard of this one. Most
Speaker 2: people have probably seen clips from this one. We don't
Speaker 2: need to dive too much into this, but I love
Speaker 2: that we cover this right after Howard says, get buzzed
Speaker 2: a walk. Next up Anime Wong's Bombs Over Burma from
Speaker 2: nineteen forty two. This is coming in February as part
Speaker 2: of the same collection, so again two K or four
Speaker 2: K skin no supplements will be subtitled Anime Wong is
Speaker 2: kind of incredible.
Speaker 3: S Fuego, she is on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've not seen this one. I need to see
Speaker 2: this one for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I had seen. I think I
Speaker 3: saw this from a literally it must have been like
Speaker 3: one of my first months, like in freshman year of college,
Speaker 3: and we were invited over to someone's house. We had
Speaker 3: a print of this and a bunch of us an
Speaker 3: Anime Wang fanatic, and we saw a bunch a bunch
Speaker 3: of her stuff and it was really pushing the pushing
Speaker 3: the limit of censorship at the time. So I don't
Speaker 3: remember specifics about the movie that I do remember that
Speaker 3: we loved everything we watched. It's so magical.
Speaker 2: I love a review like that. It was good. Don't
Speaker 2: remember anything about it, but it was good.
Speaker 3: It's it looks it's it's the crime of just getting older.
Speaker 2: And watching a billion movies you.
Speaker 3: Know when you were younger, completely stone.
Speaker 2: So you know, yep, read for madness, folks. Uh, next life.
Speaker 2: The Black Raven from nineteen forty three coming in February
Speaker 2: is part of that line. Same thing, two K or
Speaker 2: four K scan uh, no supplements And I know nothing
Speaker 2: about this one? Is this film, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the Black Raven. I'm just checking to see if
Speaker 3: it's the one that I do know.
Speaker 2: Let me see George Zuka, Wanda McKay and it says
Speaker 2: one dark and Stormy Night convict.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a it's it's a little hybrid. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's like a it's like a it's like the Well
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's a lot like The Raven.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things that just sort of like
Speaker 3: they didn't wanna that they were. It is a poverty
Speaker 3: Row production, you know. So George Zuko is amazing as always.
Speaker 2: This guy was.
Speaker 3: If no one's familiar with him, this is what's in
Speaker 3: my head. Everyone knows what I know or experience, what
Speaker 3: I experience, and I'm like, wow, I'm realizing that, you know,
Speaker 3: they don't they don't have the venue, you know, the
Speaker 3: outlets to see these type of things anymore. Maybe YouTube
Speaker 3: has taken over, you know, you know, Saturday afternoon TV
Speaker 3: stations like you know, syndicated, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But Black Raven, yeah from uh It's it's not one
Speaker 3: of the ones that got heavy attention. But George Zuko
Speaker 3: is you know, he was from like The Flying Serpent,
Speaker 3: and I mean he's some universal stuff. He's a good villain,
Speaker 3: but he's a was a really sharp actor, really cool,
Speaker 3: so he's anything he ever did was great. Sam Newfield
Speaker 3: is also pretty cool the director, which I really like.
Speaker 3: But it is there are not just mystery elements or
Speaker 3: thriller elements, but are there's some horror elements in this
Speaker 3: It's only like is it even an hour long? I
Speaker 3: don't even know if it's an hour long? But great
Speaker 3: that it's great that it's coming out. So yeah, from
Speaker 3: my five or six year old viewing of it, because
Speaker 3: it's not not a common one, that's why I think
Speaker 3: it's great. I would definitely, you know, I would jump
Speaker 3: at this one. It's better than what you would imagine
Speaker 3: from what I remember, and I remember thinking it was
Speaker 3: pretty cool, but it didn't get the play that some
Speaker 3: of these other ones did.
Speaker 2: Of course. All right, last up for the entire week.
Speaker 2: Already done with the announcements we've got in January, a
Speaker 2: Blu ray and DVD coming of the Second Woman from
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty. This is a Robert Young and Betsy Drake film,
Speaker 2: again two K or four K scan. No supplements will
Speaker 2: be subtitled. This one says in flashback from a Rebecca
Speaker 2: style beginning, Ellen Foster, visiting Rands on the California Coast,
Speaker 2: meets neighbor je cohalan colon let's not call it colon
Speaker 2: that sounds funny and his ultra modern cliff top house.
Speaker 2: Ellen is strongly attracted to Jeff, who's being plagued by
Speaker 2: unexplainable accidents, major and minor bad luck, persecution or paranoia,
Speaker 2: war that Jeff could be dangerous. Ellen fears that he's
Speaker 2: in danger as the menacing atmosphere darkens.
Speaker 3: Great. I've never seen it, but it sounds perfect.
Speaker 2: As a nineteen fifty film. I'm kind of surprised.
Speaker 3: I can only hope there's a dummy death this sounds
Speaker 3: perfect for it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it really does, especially for that time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, any kind of synopsis like that. It's
Speaker 3: like that's not even me, say no more, I'm there,
Speaker 3: you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds good. All right. Next week, just in case
Speaker 2: you forgot, it, is the last welcome new release Tuesday
Speaker 2: of the year, which means it's kind of a black hole.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of not a lot of huge
Speaker 2: stuff coming out. Most of the stuff lifted here listed
Speaker 2: here sorry is a Vineyer syndrome and OCN releases that
Speaker 2: are coming out for this month, all the partner labels,
Speaker 2: but we do have a handful of things like Breakdown
Speaker 2: on four K coming from Paramount as their standard four
Speaker 2: K release. Outside of that box set, this does have
Speaker 2: the TerrorVision titles listed here. Student Bodies is not shipping
Speaker 2: this week, Gator Bait not shipping this week. Their others
Speaker 2: are not shipping this week, Digimond the movies coming out
Speaker 2: from Disco Tech this week, for sure. We've got a
Speaker 2: couple others here. Hide and Go Shriek not shipping this
Speaker 2: week for sure. Last Screening not shipping this week. Happy
Speaker 2: Hell Night not shipping this week. Hannah k from Keno
Speaker 2: Larber good Night and good Luck the Clooney film. That
Speaker 2: one is coming out this next week. City Hunter also
Speaker 2: coming from Disco Tech. That is the complete second series.
Speaker 2: I believe Challenge of the Lady Ninja from Air forty
Speaker 2: four to forty four should be shipping semi soon. They
Speaker 2: did post that those were delayed, same with the Art
Speaker 2: of the Devil one through three. Anami collection. Beast Wishes
Speaker 2: is a documentary that I need. That one will be
Speaker 2: shipping this week. I've got that one pre ordered. Long
Speaker 2: Live the King another documentary coming out from Anchor Bay
Speaker 2: as well. But that is it for this month or
Speaker 2: not this month, this next week. Not a lot coming out,
Speaker 2: Thankfully you can rest for the week following Christmas. But
Speaker 2: that's all we got for announcements. Howard Wow, Hannah Ky's
Speaker 2: worth it.
Speaker 3: I love Costagavres did z so he Loves did an
Speaker 3: amazing movie which I don't believe has been distributed in
Speaker 3: the States yet called Shock Troops from I guess like
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty seven. And he also did another amazing I
Speaker 3: think it was placed first film the Oh gosh, the
Speaker 3: I forgot what it was called, Like the sleeping car murders,
Speaker 3: That's what it was. Very tongue in cheek, very stylish cinematic.
Speaker 3: Who done it that he did in like nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: five Issues sixty six another good one, but Hanah kay
Speaker 3: is also it's a later movie with Jill Clayburgh, who's brilliant.
Speaker 3: But I'll give I'll endorse this one completely. It has
Speaker 3: a it's one of these moral examinations of a time
Speaker 3: at the time, a timely situation because it's pretty timely
Speaker 3: now too, only it's gone far worse. Middle East lot
Speaker 3: of you know. I think it's a courtroom drama. But
Speaker 3: a great movie, really really cool film and an interesting discussion,
Speaker 3: you know. But Keino good, I'm glad. I'm glad they're
Speaker 3: doing it. It's in good hands.
Speaker 2: Solid from Keno. All right, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: some of Howard's contributions. I might pepper in some of
Speaker 2: my feelings for that in there as well. But my
Speaker 2: big thing is as we're going through as we're going
Speaker 2: through these, if you have any questions for Howard, please
Speaker 2: pos us them in the chat and I will ask.
Speaker 2: I'd love to get more interaction on this part because again,
Speaker 2: a lot of people that work on supplements. There's not
Speaker 2: a lot of feedback, there's not a lot of discourse
Speaker 2: on them. There's not a lot of discussion on what
Speaker 2: goes into them. So I mean, I don't think we
Speaker 2: even covered this the first time that like years ago,
Speaker 2: that you and I chatted. What do you look for
Speaker 2: in a good supplemental feature, Howard? What is your favorite
Speaker 2: type of supplemental feature?
Speaker 3: Just some kind of personality from the people who make it,
Speaker 3: that's honestly, I I it's funny you asked this because
Speaker 3: I was just talking to a couple of people about this,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think it's I always thought it
Speaker 3: was great. The first thing I ever went for when
Speaker 3: I was watching a disc is if you know one,
Speaker 3: if they were interviews. I hadn't even you know, visual
Speaker 3: essays where you know that. That always seemed like a
Speaker 3: totally separate thing to me, but interviews, And I kept
Speaker 3: noticing that even though I was interested in the person
Speaker 3: and in the what he was or she was saying,
Speaker 3: I would lose interest kind of quickly. And I went
Speaker 3: back and I started watching. This is why I don't
Speaker 3: get really to watch time to watch features that much. Lately.
Speaker 3: I'm really watching a lot of older extras and see
Speaker 3: to see what, you know, what I've missed in terms
Speaker 3: of the person who was conducting the interview or editing
Speaker 3: the interview. And I noticed a lot of things, and
Speaker 3: I wonder what you think of this. I see like
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of interviews are they're either
Speaker 3: done like a junk you know how they do it
Speaker 3: for the junket interviews with like the the little the
Speaker 3: back to a little backdrop set built or something go,
Speaker 3: and it's always like a colorful lighting whatever. But then
Speaker 3: it's never like they don't really go into Maybe this
Speaker 3: is because of the company having this, they're you know,
Speaker 3: having lawyers go through the tapes. That's always possible, but
Speaker 3: it's never it's always like about just the film, so
Speaker 3: I never get to know really who is talking. It's
Speaker 3: always like a guy who showed up on set and
Speaker 3: it's like it could be the greatest cinematographer or the
Speaker 3: greatest director. But somehow I had a lot of these
Speaker 3: these things really didn't you know, reveal much. It was
Speaker 3: just seems so hemetically sealed. And do you ever notice
Speaker 3: that sometimes when they have like a they'll have a
Speaker 3: second camera usually like an iPhone or something, so it
Speaker 3: doesn't quite match the camera anyway. I mean, it's like
Speaker 3: the footage, it doesn't, but it'll just cut into like
Speaker 3: a side view, and that always kind of throws me
Speaker 3: that that I lose I lose, I lose focus quickly
Speaker 3: because you're not You're not they're not talking to you anymore.
Speaker 3: They're like suddenly they're cutting to like a side shot.
Speaker 3: And I've been noticing how much that really bugs the
Speaker 3: hell out of me lately. I like, I rather, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of fascinated with like zoom conversations or you know,
Speaker 3: film zoom conversations or something more direct where they're actually
Speaker 3: looking at you as opposed to just answering questions. So
Speaker 3: I kind of like, I kind of like seeing that,
Speaker 3: you do you know what I'm talking about? You ever
Speaker 3: seen that with the Yeah?
Speaker 2: I Actually I had to edit one of these for
Speaker 2: an upcoming release from Imprint semi recently that did that,
Speaker 2: And the main reason was when they set up coverage,
Speaker 2: the room that they were interviewing in was so small.
Speaker 2: The what would be the normal B camera was literally
Speaker 2: almost like a side view of the face. And the
Speaker 2: reality is you're paying for that you should use it
Speaker 2: at least a little bit. So I didn't overly use it,
Speaker 2: but it I don't know. I do. One of the
Speaker 2: big things I do like is keeping the viewer engaged,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people nowadays just changing the angle
Speaker 2: does that. But also of course using like clips from
Speaker 2: the film or just showing footage while they speak is
Speaker 2: big for that a lot of the times. So it's
Speaker 2: it's nice to see, nice to see some coverage. But
Speaker 2: the zoom interviews, I don't know. It depends, Like if
Speaker 2: deaf crocodile, for instance, they're interviewing somebody from Moscow, we
Speaker 2: can't really call in a studio and get them in
Speaker 2: a studio. I get that, But a zoom zoom one
Speaker 2: makes sense there. If they're in LA, I don't want, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want Shout Factory doing a zoom interview or
Speaker 2: somebody else who's in LA. That doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean it's just sometimes the smallest little thing.
Speaker 3: But if I start like not paying attention to someone
Speaker 3: who I'm I'm naturally interested in, but and also I
Speaker 3: just like to know. I like to get to know
Speaker 3: the person and his attitude or her attitude towards their
Speaker 3: career or what their career was. I just had the
Speaker 3: privilege of doing. And I may not speaking of this
Speaker 3: may not be everyone's taste. I'm just saying you asked me,
Speaker 3: so this.
Speaker 2: Is this is my take.
Speaker 3: I had a zoom conversation and it was in you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, it was in Spain. It was done.
Speaker 3: They were in Spain. It was Peter MacDonald, who was
Speaker 3: like the greatest second you know, assist in the second
Speaker 3: camera and cameraman.
Speaker 2: I mean my whole childhood, all.
Speaker 3: These British movies, these which were almost you could consider
Speaker 3: them almost you know, experimental, you know, in a way.
Speaker 3: He used to be Jeffrey Unsworth's cameraman, and then ultimately
Speaker 3: he went on he directed, ultimately did like his own
Speaker 3: He directed his own films that he directed, The Never
Speaker 3: Ending Story three, I think War two or three, I
Speaker 3: think three. And he also did like Rambo, uh the
Speaker 3: third one, the Rambo three, and he did some you know,
Speaker 3: Jean Claude van damp An amazing, but he was camera
Speaker 3: on Cabaret and he did work with Unsworth on two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, and he was you know, I was
Speaker 3: so fortunate to set up a Zoom interview with him,
Speaker 3: and he was so magnetic to me. It was like
Speaker 3: a gift that he you know, you know the fact
Speaker 3: that he just gave up the truth about working with
Speaker 3: some of the greatest people, Richard Lester, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, Basil Derdon, I mean, like the people that
Speaker 3: he was listening off and talking, discussing about his approach
Speaker 3: to things and anecdotes working with certain stars, has a great,
Speaker 3: great bit about Oliver Reid, and this is all leading
Speaker 3: up to his work on Czardas and Excalibur. So it
Speaker 3: was a four and a half hour conversation and I
Speaker 3: was glued. I just couldn't even I had to cut
Speaker 3: it down. It was painful. I had to cut it
Speaker 3: down to you know, I didn't want to short change anyone,
Speaker 3: but I wanted people to know him the way he
Speaker 3: let me know him, which is just wonderful. And he's
Speaker 3: got a great sense of humor and an amazing rack
Speaker 3: on tour and a life that it's you know, it
Speaker 3: was working in film, not on digital video, and he created,
Speaker 3: you know, helped create, innovate a lot of things that
Speaker 3: people are still struggling to replicate on digital video. You know,
Speaker 3: and he's he's a but I cut it down to
Speaker 3: like seventy five minutes and it's still I wanted to
Speaker 3: go farther with it because the stories that I had
Speaker 3: to cut out were just like almost criminal that I
Speaker 3: had to cut it out. But he's but I want
Speaker 3: people to know he's this guy. I mean, he's a
Speaker 3: lovely guy. But it's it's they don't have the same
Speaker 3: they didn't grow up A lot of these people didn't
Speaker 3: grow up with him the way I grew up with him,
Speaker 3: just seeing the name over and over again from you know,
Speaker 3: when I was a little kid, straight through all these
Speaker 3: movies that were like my favorite films that were just
Speaker 3: on TV. You know, I grew up with him so that,
Speaker 3: you know, and I like the fact that we had
Speaker 3: to do it over zoom because he was really you know,
Speaker 3: he knew how to use the laptop lens to act
Speaker 3: to his performance as it well, it was just great
Speaker 3: and he was just great. It's the most fun of
Speaker 3: had doing an interview in a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's dive deep on Excalibur. We got two
Speaker 2: real quick comments before we go into that. One. Terry
Speaker 2: talks movie says, I want to see interviews where the
Speaker 2: stars sitting in a pub getting pissed with the interviewer.
Speaker 2: He just totally reminds me this last year. We had
Speaker 2: Joe Bob Briggs for Sledgehammer, and he was exhausted, literally
Speaker 2: in a bar and to we go to shoot and
Speaker 2: then suddenly he's just on. The dude is like it
Speaker 2: was filmed during the weekend of a convention and so
Speaker 2: he was just beat already, but he was just immediately
Speaker 2: on as soon as we started filming. And then the
Speaker 2: other one, Robert Hubbard says, hello, Howard, big fan of
Speaker 2: the Terminal Man features on the Arrow disc and your
Speaker 2: commentary with Howard Thompson. I think we mean the Thanel
Speaker 2: Thompson on the Big Bus.
Speaker 3: Steve Mitchell was with me, Steve.
Speaker 2: Mitchell on that one, the Big Bus, not another one that.
Speaker 3: We hear, So that's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So Excalibur, why you know four and
Speaker 2: a half hours is a long interview? Does Arrow? I
Speaker 2: don't think you've told me this yet. Did they dictate
Speaker 2: how long it could be or did you just say
Speaker 2: this is what it is. I'm turning it in and
Speaker 2: it's seventy five minutes, So good luck.
Speaker 3: I think usually Arrow has no compunctions, you know, unless
Speaker 3: unless they tell me that I haven't been told. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I asked. I said, look, you know, i'm
Speaker 3: cutting this down from four and a half. And as
Speaker 3: I got into the you know, watching it and listening
Speaker 3: to it, making my notes, I didn't want it to bloat.
Speaker 2: It's not bloat.
Speaker 3: But it was all amazing and really I can't tell
Speaker 3: you how funny some of the stuff was. And it's
Speaker 3: a shame, but it was. I did have to tell them,
Speaker 3: I said, when I finally, when I got the cut,
Speaker 3: I said, I brought it down to seventy five. I
Speaker 3: could go more and go let They said, if you
Speaker 3: could go as long as you need to, as long
Speaker 3: as it's interesting. But then I realized, you know, all right,
Speaker 3: what's going to be. Maybe a criticism is that I
Speaker 3: thought this was going to be only about the production
Speaker 3: of Excalibur, and it wasn't. I mean, I never promised that.
Speaker 3: I want people to know Peter McDonald's my that's my concern,
Speaker 3: and why his work on Zardas and Excalibur aren't the
Speaker 3: same thing. It's not a technician showing up on set.
Speaker 3: I wanted them to follow it like he followed it
Speaker 3: like his career through his eyes. So to me, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's just like one person telling you and I
Speaker 3: illustrate it. I used clips and I used I use
Speaker 3: b ra all and stuff, but I really they never
Speaker 3: they've never given me a problem. I did another thing
Speaker 3: which for one reason another didn't didn't end up you know,
Speaker 3: uh where where where it wanted to be, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was another turned out to be like a seventy
Speaker 3: five minute visual essay quick like no one can No
Speaker 3: one said anything, but it was. But I am not
Speaker 3: at liberty to say what it was or what it
Speaker 3: was for. But I would have, and I probably am
Speaker 3: going to since it's reverted back to me. I probably
Speaker 3: would add another half hour to it, only because I
Speaker 3: personally was trying. Was never told to keep it down,
Speaker 3: but I there's things about link that I think, you know,
Speaker 3: if it's pertinent, you know, it may not be in
Speaker 3: every you know, viewers capacity to remain interested in an essay,
Speaker 3: but I'm not. You know, I can only do it
Speaker 3: from my point of view if I have something that
Speaker 3: I think needs to be discussed, that hasn't been discussed
Speaker 3: or needs to be heard that hasn't been heard. I'm
Speaker 3: going to try and do my best to keep it pertinent.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not thinking about running time. I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people have. You know, look, there's there's
Speaker 3: some brilliant three hour movies, but people have like they're
Speaker 3: they're you know, they have problems with with running time,
Speaker 3: even of great movies. You know, So you know, I
Speaker 3: I it's an interesting question. How do you deal with it?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you have you ever had something, you know,
Speaker 3: truly epic that was just like no, I can't do this, or.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I've had that was close to
Speaker 2: that is we were told one time that a disc
Speaker 2: only had just over ten minutes of available space on
Speaker 2: it that we could make. So we went into a
Speaker 2: project knowing that it could only be ten minutes, and
Speaker 2: that was tough considering what we had written and then
Speaker 2: editing down to that point. It was like chock there's
Speaker 2: no rest in that piece. It was. It was chock
Speaker 2: full from second one until end of the credits, and
Speaker 2: so it was. It was rough, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think even the thing that we
Speaker 3: did together for The Ugly was that a full half
Speaker 3: hour or was that twenty No, it.
Speaker 2: Was around eighteen to twenty. I think, yeah, let's talk
Speaker 2: about that one. So The Ugly is coming from unearthed films.
Speaker 2: It has not been released yet. I believe that's coming
Speaker 2: next month or February. The Ugly. How'd you feel about that?
Speaker 2: And putting this piece together for somebody editing for you
Speaker 2: for the first time like this, I.
Speaker 3: Trusted you, I I you know, I had. I tried
Speaker 3: to not guide that much, but I hope I gave
Speaker 3: in the way I wrote it. I figured, you know,
Speaker 3: let's see where you take it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: we never have enough time. I mean, especially when you
Speaker 3: get to the entertage. It is really sometimes you're usually
Speaker 3: juggling to other projects and you're on a twenty almost
Speaker 3: twenty hour schedule sometimes and sometimes you know, so I
Speaker 3: kept going, like, I hope I'm not complicating this for him,
Speaker 3: but like the all that's so sympathetic to it, you
Speaker 3: know how it's how I feel about, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: doing it myself. But I had a complete trust doing it.
Speaker 2: I just didn't.
Speaker 3: I just was hoping that I wasn't unclear or I
Speaker 3: wasn't making my my thing. There's so much to go
Speaker 3: over with the ugly. I mean, there's so there's so
Speaker 3: many antecedents that they and they, and it plays with
Speaker 3: it like you think, oh, that's such a cliche. But
Speaker 3: then I would watch it for like the third time
Speaker 3: and I go, you know something, he's very as possible,
Speaker 3: very possible that he's doing some subversive twists to a
Speaker 3: lot of these tropes that have been accepted in that genre,
Speaker 3: and I like, I like that. There's another movie that
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Thompson, who I'm glad ended up doing commentary for
Speaker 3: the disc. He was the one who he wasn't attached
Speaker 3: to it yet when we were working on it originally,
Speaker 3: and I was so happy because he's the guy who
Speaker 3: introduced the movie to me. He's he was saying, oh no,
Speaker 3: it's a great movie. It's a great movie, and I go, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm psyched. I'm watched it and it was it was
Speaker 3: an unusual film for me, but I really liked the
Speaker 3: fact that it there was I thought some very interesting
Speaker 3: suberversive thematic twists to this movie. And I thought, from
Speaker 3: you know, I thought you did a great job with it.
Speaker 3: But I really you know, I enjoyed the movie tremendously
Speaker 3: and not a lot of people have actually heard of it.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a name one of my wrong
Speaker 3: that was like a big VHS thing. I think that's
Speaker 3: people saw it when it was on like VHS and
Speaker 3: and they're in the video stores.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a mom and pop video store title.
Speaker 2: It came out late nineties, not a ton of fanfare
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but it's it's shockingly good for
Speaker 2: when it came out and for not being a huge movie.
Speaker 2: It's well acted, unique, idea fun movie. It shot pretty well.
Speaker 2: I truly liked the ugly quiteit and it's tricky. It's
Speaker 2: a tricky film.
Speaker 3: It's not like you think there, at least the way
Speaker 3: I took it is that I would think there was
Speaker 3: a cliche that's a bad word, but a cliche or
Speaker 3: a very recycled you know, trope to that, and then
Speaker 3: just watching it, I'm like, no, he's doing He's doing
Speaker 3: something else, you.
Speaker 2: Know, something new.
Speaker 3: So we tried, I tried to do try to incorporate that,
Speaker 3: and I guess, wow, twenty minutes I really thought it
Speaker 3: was like longer, that's good to know. Do you have
Speaker 3: to did you have to chop a lot down. I
Speaker 3: don't remember, No, not a lot.
Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of Like there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of fluff from the like for many of these
Speaker 2: when it's thirty minutes, it might only be like twenty
Speaker 2: one minutes of essay and about nine minutes of film footage.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of just film footage because the
Speaker 2: way that we did the essay, it's not a lot
Speaker 2: of that. It's a lot of just focus on what
Speaker 2: inspired this, what came from it, and what the film
Speaker 2: itself means because there's okay players in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good to know.
Speaker 3: Again, I can't wait till people see it. But I
Speaker 3: hope people response. We can, you know, get some feedback too.
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's always good to hear feedback. Might
Speaker 3: not change what we do at all, but at least
Speaker 3: we get an idea of what it's coming on across.
Speaker 2: Like, well, but you got a question, Ragnar wants to
Speaker 2: know what made what made you want to be on
Speaker 2: physical media to begin with? Is there something that made
Speaker 2: you want to speak on these on these films to
Speaker 2: be on the.
Speaker 3: Disc I've will you know, I've always I've always just
Speaker 3: loved this whole environment of physical media. But again it
Speaker 3: was it was Nathaniel Thompson who invited me. You know,
Speaker 3: I'd go over to his place and watched tons of
Speaker 3: stuff and you know, but then he he was he
Speaker 3: was doing stuff with image every way earlier, you know,
Speaker 3: but he invited me to to do I think the
Speaker 3: first one he ever did was trouble.
Speaker 2: Man on Keno.
Speaker 3: Uh and uh then it starts snowballing. We were getting
Speaker 3: titles that was greatly Phil Carlson's framed and things like that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, So it was really I
Speaker 3: went to Nathaniel also Callum Waddel when he was with
Speaker 3: Arrow a long time ago. Uh he yeah, very long
Speaker 3: time ago. But he also started asking me to be
Speaker 3: a talking head and I'm like, really, here's but so,
Speaker 3: you know, so I had you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: really cool you know movies through that, but I I
Speaker 3: just love That's the first thing I go to is
Speaker 3: the extras on the you know, the the DVTs, the
Speaker 3: Blu rays. I've always just been I've always been interested
Speaker 3: in the personality of the artist of who who did it,
Speaker 3: And like I said, some some of them really capture it,
Speaker 3: uh you know, and some of them I like I
Speaker 3: like a lot of I like the fat I like
Speaker 3: the creative. I like to know who i'm who's who
Speaker 3: worked on this, not just that they showed up and
Speaker 3: this is the story on the set. It really kind
Speaker 3: of doesn't. Really, I've worked on movies. It doesn't really,
Speaker 3: it's not that interesting to me. What's interesting is is
Speaker 3: not the backstage you know, Yeah, but they created something,
Speaker 3: you know, it's they had to have a hive mind.
Speaker 3: They had to have a collective amoebic you know, mind
Speaker 3: for a while. And that fascinates me so much. Uh.
Speaker 3: And what I'm happy about is like it looks like
Speaker 3: in the last two or three years in particular, forget
Speaker 3: about the last ten, but in the last two or
Speaker 3: three with all these boutique labels finding a voice and
Speaker 3: trying at least giving it themselves a chance to try something,
Speaker 3: to show something that hasn't been explored yet. Uh, it's cool.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things to a lot of approaches
Speaker 3: to film and history. I mean, you look at Death Crocodile.
Speaker 3: I'm learning a hell of a lot of history that
Speaker 3: I never I never would have, you know.
Speaker 2: It's speaking of speaking of finding their voice. I've always
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you this because you have a very
Speaker 2: specific style when you especially visual essays, when you're not
Speaker 2: just interviewing but doing a full out essay. You know
Speaker 2: what you're setting out to say. You know that you're
Speaker 2: you've got a central thesis that you're always coming back to.
Speaker 2: Do you approach these differently for different companies? Is there
Speaker 2: a different feeling when you're doing one for Arrow as
Speaker 2: opposed to filmmasters? Because Arrow is a very mainstream audience
Speaker 2: type of company, but even filmmasters might be a little
Speaker 2: more I don't want to say, like Pinky in the
Speaker 2: Air condescending, but more like these people might pay a
Speaker 2: little more attention to the craft of like B movies
Speaker 2: type of feeling.
Speaker 3: It's more filmed by film, not company by company. It's
Speaker 3: funny you say that, but no, and I don't even know,
Speaker 3: Like it just becomes because when I'm working with Kevin,
Speaker 3: when Kevin's my co writer or writer, I mean, he's
Speaker 3: he's he you know, I throw out whatever I can
Speaker 3: sometimes with him, but he's you know, he's he's the master,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I have to I have to sort of
Speaker 3: find the voice that he has, and it's sometimes inadvertently
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say facetious or sarcastic, but that's
Speaker 3: not that's not there's no contempt in it at all.
Speaker 3: It's just I have to find I just have to
Speaker 3: find the right, you know, voice for it. I guess
Speaker 3: I don't think about it. I hate hearing my own voice.
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy. And sometimes I'll change it. I'll
Speaker 3: pitch shift it so I sound a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like what Keanu Reeves tries to do with his voice,
Speaker 3: and he's making basillary just talking like this. You know,
Speaker 3: I try to do the same thing. I'll like pitch
Speaker 3: shift it so I'm a little bit slower. I caught
Speaker 3: fast or so.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just but it's that's why I like to edit
Speaker 3: my own things, clean it up, my own interesting. And
Speaker 3: I didn't think that Arrow was terribly mainstream, but I guess, yeah,
Speaker 3: they balanced it. I mean, you know, they went corporate
Speaker 3: so that they're balancing. I think they're doing a really
Speaker 3: good job, even with the films that I don't know.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what people expect from companies.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. Their choices aren't necessarily mainstream. Down
Speaker 2: the Aisle films because like right now to Save the
Speaker 2: Green Planet, you could argue as not mainstream, but they're
Speaker 2: even doing things like the Samurai trilogies from the sixties.
Speaker 2: Nobody else is putting out stuff like except for maybe Radiance.
Speaker 2: But the big thing is Arrow purchasers are the mainstream.
Speaker 2: Like other than Criterion, Vinegar, Sindermon, Arrow are the ones
Speaker 2: that many people could name, and people like filmmasters. Most
Speaker 2: people in their right mind, even in this hobby, would
Speaker 2: not name filmasters if you ask them to list twenty
Speaker 2: five boutiques. That's just not a title that would come up. Right.
Speaker 3: Eventually, maybe we'll see. I mean, you know again, I
Speaker 3: enjoyed what I did with them. They were very they
Speaker 3: were very open to whatever we were doing. We did
Speaker 3: the Tormented, the Burt Gordon Tormented. Yeah, we did the Terror,
Speaker 3: which was a long piece too. Oh that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was the Terror. Imprint has a totally different vibe
Speaker 3: to it. They I think they like as much the
Speaker 3: thematic as they do technical, especially in the visual essays.
Speaker 3: They're very, very embracing me and people like Daniel Kramer,
Speaker 3: who we really want to get if we see an
Speaker 3: idea that it has been under discussed. You know, we'll
Speaker 3: go for it. We'll try and do it, you know,
Speaker 3: to the best we can, as articulate as we can,
Speaker 3: you know, do it. But it's interesting. I never thought
Speaker 3: about that label by label, Like what, what is sort
Speaker 3: of a tone for the label?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's usually just filmed by film.
Speaker 3: Like I said, we could do something like last Long
Speaker 3: Kiss good Night, and it would be a little bit
Speaker 3: you know, in the in the flavor of the film,
Speaker 3: a little you know. I had done one for Tough
Speaker 3: Guys Don't Dance, and it didn't It was rejected by
Speaker 3: MGM because of the tone and like what the tone
Speaker 3: of what Norman Mailer's tone. And we were only doing
Speaker 3: it up to Norman Mailer, you know, we were trying
Speaker 3: to figure and we I think there's a lot of
Speaker 3: revelations there that still have not been discussed about him,
Speaker 3: either as a director or an author. But that's something
Speaker 3: that you know, again, I own it now. I'll probably
Speaker 3: put it up somewhere some point if it doesn't get
Speaker 3: taken in for another you know, if someone else doesn't
Speaker 3: end up handling it, and then can I don't know
Speaker 3: what MGM is like now that could be different now,
Speaker 3: So for all I know, yeah, that's sad, it's too bad.
Speaker 3: But like with Excalibur and Outland, again, I'm dealing with
Speaker 3: Neil Snowden, who is really he you know, he just
Speaker 3: he he entices you, you know, he allows you to
Speaker 3: explore something that isn't just by rote at this point,
Speaker 3: you know, so Borman I had to realize John Borman.
Speaker 3: You know, people a lot of people don't know who
Speaker 3: he is. Like a lot of people through shocking to
Speaker 3: me because for a while maybe up you know now
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's over twenty years ago now, But
Speaker 3: like even in the nineties, which I think is still yesterday,
Speaker 3: John and was still a viable you know, he had
Speaker 3: a history like Deliverance and and and Zardas wasn't so
Speaker 3: ridiculed as it is now. I mean, Zarda's people think
Speaker 3: is a bad movie, and they talk about even I mean,
Speaker 3: I understand gripes with Exorsist two, but I still I
Speaker 3: used to say, it's like a it's a terrible Exorcist sequel,
Speaker 3: but it's a great John Borman movie, you know. Like
Speaker 3: so that's why I think it's great that they're so
Speaker 3: indulgent and and they want people to have, you know,
Speaker 3: a voice like David Kittridge. I can't wait to see
Speaker 3: his documentary on Exorcist too, because there's a perspective and
Speaker 3: he and within his own perspective, he's he's getting other
Speaker 3: people to help sort of navigate through the strange waterway
Speaker 3: of critical thinking towards that particular film and that director.
Speaker 3: So I love what Neil was doing with Excalber because
Speaker 3: he loves the movie. I mean, he's really passionate, but
Speaker 3: he has an incredibly open mind and he's very eclectic
Speaker 3: on his own and to see that that enthusiasm come
Speaker 3: across to the you know, in his curatorship to edit
Speaker 3: the visual essay, you know, I was doing it for him,
Speaker 3: you know, I was trying to. I was looking forward
Speaker 3: to at least stating you know, Kevin in my case
Speaker 3: and see how he responds.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So he was.
Speaker 3: He's He's an exemplary you know producer in that respect.
Speaker 3: That's really important is to you know that your producer,
Speaker 3: if he can be or if she can be, is
Speaker 3: a little bit involved in the discussion and before you
Speaker 3: before you sit down and cut. Hasn't always worked out
Speaker 3: that way. I mean not that the producer has been
Speaker 3: bad or anything like that, but sometimes that they themselves
Speaker 3: are overworked and they have a huge so they can
Speaker 3: only spend so much time in discussion or planning whatever,
Speaker 3: or things can things can go south. But you know
Speaker 3: so so things like the Australian discs are usually great
Speaker 3: because you can get away with a lot and you
Speaker 3: know their laws of be you know of using clips.
Speaker 3: You know, they have a fair use law that they
Speaker 3: can apply.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: England is the opposite. It's really rough to try and stretch.
Speaker 3: You have to get like the if it's if it's
Speaker 3: a Warner Brothers disc and then it's up to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3: I can use Warner titles, you know, things like that,
Speaker 3: or Universal same thing. You can use Universal titles generally.
Speaker 3: But I like I like that, you know, the ones
Speaker 3: that really stayed with me, the Terminal Man, even the
Speaker 3: shootest those from last year, the year before. But Neil
Speaker 3: was just such a great launch pad for ideas and
Speaker 3: things that you know, I like, I just feel like
Speaker 3: I'm I I know who I'm who I'm trying to
Speaker 3: shape it for. I'll get I'll get feedback, you know. So,
Speaker 3: But I loved I loved I loved the Palenberg piece,
Speaker 3: you know, on excaliburt. I mean, we're dealing with a
Speaker 3: lot of people, and Borman is in his in his nineties,
Speaker 3: and you know, the health is just not the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, it happened, it happens quist and uh so,
Speaker 3: I know, Jonathan Zorn did a really great job, you know,
Speaker 3: getting the most out of him.
Speaker 2: And then his son.
Speaker 3: Charlie, who, of course, if you're in the Borman family,
Speaker 3: you've you've probably had to do either appear before the
Speaker 3: camera for his their father or they you know, I
Speaker 3: know Telsha his his late daughter. She was like his
Speaker 3: assistant director, you know. So it's really cool to find
Speaker 3: out about the family unit. And and and the idea
Speaker 3: of what I did was when I interviewed Raspo Pallenberg,
Speaker 3: who is I think now he's either just turned ninety
Speaker 3: or he's turning ninety, younger than Borman, believe it or not,
Speaker 3: I mean, but still that age. They're from a different era,
Speaker 3: a whole different era, and their memories obviously they're not
Speaker 3: perfect anymore, but their personality is. So I rode with that.
Speaker 3: But I've been in awe of his work and he
Speaker 3: did a great little stereocomic satiric horror film called The
Speaker 3: Cutting Class with Brad Pitt, I think was the name
Speaker 3: in his first film. It's his first Jill Sholin interesting
Speaker 3: to me, very interesting. I've always laughed when I watched
Speaker 3: that movie, and so I was a I knew, I
Speaker 3: knew what he was. I knew him, I knew I
Speaker 3: knew his work. I watched everything he's been responsible for,
Speaker 3: including an interesting Russian epic. Yeah, I mean he's he's
Speaker 3: just an interesting, interesting writer, but an interesting thinker. And
Speaker 3: Borman in his autobiographies would almost undercut not not his importance,
Speaker 3: but he just says right off the bat that, you know.
Speaker 3: It's almost like he's like an appendage of Borman's, you know,
Speaker 3: like he was just an interesting guy. Never said a
Speaker 3: bad word about him, always thought he was fascinating, befriended
Speaker 3: him because he was such an unusual, unique thinker. So
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait to talk to him. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's you know, not his memory is human, you know.
Speaker 3: So I got a great interview out of him, but
Speaker 3: I thought it needed context, so I kind of combined
Speaker 3: the visual essay with the interview. So it really is
Speaker 3: about what I was determining once Pallenberg's son very generously
Speaker 3: started giving me emails from between the two of them
Speaker 3: for years and and going back twenty some odd years,
Speaker 3: and letters even further, and footage that Pallenberg had shot
Speaker 3: on Deliverance back, you know that has never been seen
Speaker 3: outside of the family. So I made this thing basically
Speaker 3: about my impression of their their relationship together as friends,
Speaker 3: as it's it's almost like a sexless, passionate marriage that
Speaker 3: they had. That the that their bonding came out through
Speaker 3: the films and the ideas that they each endorsed by
Speaker 3: each other, I mean, and then you know, which is
Speaker 3: so eccentric and so personal, I mean with I saw
Speaker 3: it as a love story. I saw it as some
Speaker 3: kind of a love story, and and a believable one,
Speaker 3: one with ups and downs. And honestly, so that was
Speaker 3: that was great And Neil really you know, Snowden was
Speaker 3: really great with encouraging me to try and get another
Speaker 3: point of view, you know.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't just an ordinary interview. It looked like
Speaker 3: when at first, but then suddenly I was able in
Speaker 3: the editing, you'll see I start to toy with things
Speaker 3: you know, with with with the actual picture, so I
Speaker 3: have fun as well. You know, it wasn't just like
Speaker 3: cutting an interview, you know, it's all about what I
Speaker 3: did on the set of You know, it didn't interest me.
Speaker 3: I want, you know, I want, and I knew there
Speaker 3: was so much else, so many other people being interviewed,
Speaker 3: and I just think it's great that at some point
Speaker 3: what I think this is. This is again, I know
Speaker 3: I sound like a nut, but it's worth it. Neil
Speaker 3: put everything into contact, so he knew that when you
Speaker 3: watch all the extras, you're not just watching about the production.
Speaker 3: You were really sort of centrifuical. You're you're becoming John
Speaker 3: Borman at some point point, You're you're you're you're understanding
Speaker 3: not just this one movie's production, but what it meant
Speaker 3: to him and and what eventually you're gonna It'll just
Speaker 3: come across. All these different perspectives in the extras sort
Speaker 3: of are harmonious to each other. And I love that
Speaker 3: type of attitude, that care of what. And he was
Speaker 3: able to say to me, you know, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for from these other things, and then it
Speaker 3: was It was great. And he did that also with
Speaker 3: inglorious bastards. And he also did that with the Cell.
Speaker 3: He helped me get a great focus. But I did
Speaker 3: a very long, very technically detailed interview on the Cell
Speaker 3: with pol Paul Laufer, who was the cinematographer, and he
Speaker 3: was absolutely brilliant and fun guy, and and and and
Speaker 3: that was also long, and in two parts, I guess
Speaker 3: because he split it in where it needed to be
Speaker 3: split for another another use on the second disc. But
Speaker 3: they gave me, they gave me a point of view
Speaker 3: so that when I went into the interview for doing
Speaker 3: an interview, I knew what I wanted to know about
Speaker 3: the guy now that you know, and to find out
Speaker 3: I didn't even know this really. I just assumed he did,
Speaker 3: you know, he had an extensive commercial background, but Laufur
Speaker 3: actually did that. He actually said, this is my first,
Speaker 3: you know, first motion, my first you know, this narrative feature,
Speaker 3: and I think this might be my last because I
Speaker 3: because of Tarsum and the Warner Brothers, they let him
Speaker 3: do everything he needed he wanted to do. He said anything,
Speaker 3: he wanted to learn, anything he wanted to try, they
Speaker 3: let him do it. So afterwards he's like, there was
Speaker 3: really nothing else I wanted to do in this realm.
Speaker 3: It's like to me, that's like, so not only did
Speaker 3: I get to know something interesting about the movie, but
Speaker 3: about this this amazing personality and this amazing talent and
Speaker 3: how he's approaching this particular project. I like that, Like that,
Speaker 3: that's cool. Arrow was giving me a lot of leeway
Speaker 3: in that, you know, and so that that's that's really cool.
Speaker 3: The Borman stuff, the Terminal Man. It's just I love
Speaker 3: these two guys a lot, and I admired them both,
Speaker 3: you know, all my life. In the minute I was
Speaker 3: introduced to both of their films, you know well.
Speaker 2: And Terminal Man was a big movie for you, right
Speaker 2: if I remember right, I think that was one that
Speaker 2: you had always cherished.
Speaker 3: I mean I saw it when I was in fourth
Speaker 3: grade alone. I was dropped off the movie theater because
Speaker 3: it was playing with I think High Averbacks, the Peter
Speaker 3: Sellers movie I Love You Alice b. Toklas. I was ten,
Speaker 3: I think or nine or ten, and I just was dropped.
Speaker 3: It was Alice B. Toklas and Juggernaut was the triple
Speaker 3: feature that was playing this little mini Cinny. It was
Speaker 3: called Tiny, Little about seventy c theater.
Speaker 2: So when I saw.
Speaker 3: That that was the that was the It wasn't the
Speaker 3: first my conscious, but it was the first cond I
Speaker 3: knew the name. So that I knew the name, I
Speaker 3: had seen Get Carter and I had seen Pulp in
Speaker 3: the theater, but I didn't connect it.
Speaker 2: I didn't connect them at the time.
Speaker 3: I knew and I didn't, And and Get Carter was
Speaker 3: very upsetting.
Speaker 2: It was one of those things.
Speaker 3: I saw it when I was five or so and
Speaker 3: my fingers were over my eyes, you know, it was
Speaker 3: I was really I was really upset by a lot
Speaker 3: of that movie and it was very emotional that watching
Speaker 3: it now, I go, wow, it's really actually an emotional movie.
Speaker 3: But Hodges was like that, and I, you know, so
Speaker 3: this was you know, this was a great assign. I
Speaker 3: was very touched that Neil asked me to do it
Speaker 3: because he knew it was probably as my Facebook posts
Speaker 3: occasionally I would go and tell about these guys, but
Speaker 3: Richard Klein and UH and Mike Conjos for two totally
Speaker 3: different types of guys, and and just knowing them the
Speaker 3: way I did it was it was a very emotional thing,
Speaker 3: and you know, Uh, and it was nice that you know,
Speaker 3: I would hand it in and you know, you'd hear
Speaker 3: back from you know that George Feltenstein, who is you know,
Speaker 3: the head of Warners. He has to prove these things
Speaker 3: to hear them say like, you know, this is a
Speaker 3: great you know this is this is a good you know,
Speaker 3: tribute to these guys and like and then I'm being
Speaker 3: told that, like, you know, these they never get criticism
Speaker 3: from the approval. You know, it's like either do it,
Speaker 3: cut this, change this. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: it was just nice to know that I'm not wasting
Speaker 3: my memories or my emotions, you know, you know, revealing
Speaker 3: them to the public when you know, are they just
Speaker 3: expecting something else out of this? I can only you know,
Speaker 3: make it the same thing whenever I talk about Simula
Speaker 3: met which I'm about to do another commentary with Nathaniel
Speaker 3: for Imprint, a great Sidney Limit movie that no one
Speaker 3: knows is a great Sidney Limit movie, and I really
Speaker 3: invite people to just explore. This is a critical care
Speaker 3: with James Spader and Helen Marron. Have you heard of it.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it. I've never been able to see it,
Speaker 2: but I've heard it's great.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends on some of these I've
Speaker 3: never even heard of it before. It's like it is
Speaker 3: phenomenal and really perverse. I'm very funny and it's it's
Speaker 3: a it's a great limit. So just being able to
Speaker 3: have an outlet where I can sort of make people,
Speaker 3: you know, see it through my eyes as opposed to
Speaker 3: even if it's I don't know if it's yeah, but uh,
Speaker 3: but I'm looking I'm really looking forward to a lot
Speaker 3: of these things. Like you know, I was so happy
Speaker 3: to see how Outland was.
Speaker 2: I was about to mention because it got brought up earlier,
Speaker 2: but we haven't like really dove deep into it. You
Speaker 2: did two things for that disc right, No? I did.
Speaker 3: I did four pieces for it, okay, Uh, yeah, there's
Speaker 3: only one, just one really good visual essay that I
Speaker 3: didn't do on it was all about it's high noonism,
Speaker 3: you know, it's connection with high new Uh. And I
Speaker 3: didn't do the commentaries. Obviously. There's two, I think two
Speaker 3: different sets of commentaries. One is I think archival with
Speaker 3: Higham's and then there's uh, there's another and forgive me,
Speaker 3: I forgot who did it.
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten a change.
Speaker 3: Is Chris Alexander, Chris Alexander. Okay, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: haven't gotten listened to it. I heard it was a fun,
Speaker 3: fun track, but I haven't listened.
Speaker 2: To it yet. Excuse me, but no, I did.
Speaker 3: Uh the interview with Steven Goldblatt, cinematographer. Uh again, he
Speaker 3: was in Mexico and we we zoomed it and that
Speaker 3: was that was terrifying because he's amazing and I love
Speaker 3: Breaking Glass is the first theatrical film, and he also
Speaker 3: did The Hunger. I mean, I mean to me, you know,
Speaker 3: Cotton Club, Lethal Weapon one and two. I mean, really amazing.
Speaker 3: But he's another very soft spoken, funny, human guy, and
Speaker 3: I love that he had a human perspective of all
Speaker 3: his work that he was happy to share and and
Speaker 3: be very frank and open about because it's an interesting
Speaker 3: story about Outland. Between him and Hiam's, the relationship was
Speaker 3: not perfect, I'll say so, it's a it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 3: But I was screwed by Zoom. I had gone through
Speaker 3: this like long trying to figure out got a better
Speaker 3: computer to do the interview through. I did all this
Speaker 3: stuff and I had to sign up with the Zoom
Speaker 3: on this new computer and I had to get a
Speaker 3: business thing, you know, all the subscription of it, get
Speaker 3: the tie deaf. And I saw him sitting there do
Speaker 3: it and the interview is lovely, just great. And I
Speaker 3: check afterwards and all the settings were at the lowest settings.
Speaker 3: Oh no, imaginable. I'm like, what is this? So I
Speaker 3: ended up talking to someone at Zoom and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, you guys made me upgrade. Once I had
Speaker 3: all the settings and everything made me upgrade, Suddenly it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't use the and they go, oh, yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 3: I said, but you know when you upgrade, it usually
Speaker 3: upgrades around your existing settings. And they're like, yeah this, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: we haven't gotten that.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I had to.
Speaker 3: If you watch, if you watch the piece with Stephen Goldblat,
Speaker 3: I was sweating because it looked it didn't look good.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was Zoom anyway, it doesn't won't all
Speaker 3: that great. So I finally thought I thought of a
Speaker 3: way to sort of trick the audience into thinking that
Speaker 3: it was appropriate and nothing was wrong. So I don't
Speaker 3: want to ruin it, but I thought it was pretty
Speaker 3: fun pretty funny. The solution that I had. I was
Speaker 3: like sweating my balls off. I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 3: is going to work, and it's I've read all these
Speaker 3: you know, these reviews, not once. Same thing happened with
Speaker 3: Peter McDonald on Excalibur. Had to come up with a
Speaker 3: sort of a psychological thing. So we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 3: if that passes the test.
Speaker 2: I'm eager to see that one. I will admit I did.
Speaker 2: I did get that one ordered the day was announced,
Speaker 2: knowing how important it was to you and knowing the
Speaker 2: amount of work that went into it, and not to
Speaker 2: mention I've still never seen it. I've heard that it's
Speaker 2: really good. And wait, wait for you, I've never seen Excalibur.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm jealous. I'm jealous.
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm behind on that one yet.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not no, I'm jealous. I'm if anything,
Speaker 3: really excited for you. This is what it's for. This
Speaker 3: is what this is what this is for. We were
Speaker 3: supposed to be born seeing all these things. Just sad
Speaker 3: that's happened. I mean, you were that's Happenstance that's happened.
Speaker 3: That's just that's just I'm not in control of that.
Speaker 2: I was an infant. I wish I was seeing a
Speaker 2: triple feature in a seventy seat cinema when I was
Speaker 2: ten years old, that's for sure, you know.
Speaker 3: But but isn't that what we're you know, doing this.
Speaker 3: We're all living vicariously through everyone we meet, right, that's
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3: But no, no, you're gonna know, you're in control of this.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have a great time. I mean, I'd love
Speaker 3: to see you. Definitely want to hear what you have
Speaker 3: to say about it. It's it's an amazing movie. The
Speaker 3: but what it had to do with borm And touched
Speaker 3: me so much more, you know than just you know,
Speaker 3: it being it was definitely not a product, you know.
Speaker 3: And what's cool is they're including the radically different editor
Speaker 3: of the movie for TV, which I've never seen, and
Speaker 3: I am super psyched that Era went the distance with this.
Speaker 3: And also they're also have a fantastic I mean I
Speaker 3: think we I think everybody doing extras on this, Jonathan
Speaker 3: Zarren and me and whoever, we all had to use
Speaker 3: bits of this. But it was Neil Jordan the documentary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that was because Borman gave him a chance. Thought
Speaker 3: he was an interesting guy, just like Pallenberg gave him
Speaker 3: a chance and I want to work with him, and
Speaker 3: he produced it. He produced one of his movies, I think,
Speaker 3: early on, an early film by him. But Jordan is
Speaker 3: another fascinating guy, and you could just tell that he
Speaker 3: was as swept up in Borman's mania as I was,
Speaker 3: you know, way before even before Excalibur, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean I remember seeing zardas my dad. I dragged my
Speaker 3: poor dad, and my dad dragged him to see He
Speaker 3: loved Sean Connery, so fine with him. But we went
Speaker 3: opening night and it was like, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: know that there were people who were going to think,
Speaker 3: you know, something that was like a bad or. I mean,
Speaker 3: can't be well, that's that's sort of a style, that's
Speaker 3: that's a sense of humor.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was out and out trying to
Speaker 3: be campy. I think there's camp was a certain aspect
Speaker 3: of Borman's humor just in general, but it wasn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't think it sacrificed the film. It's a pretty a
Speaker 3: pretty dense film with some very funny viits and funny
Speaker 3: ideas in it. It's just a satire. But when you
Speaker 3: learn about Vorman. You learn about his Arthurian obsession and
Speaker 3: you start watching his movies from the very beginning, and
Speaker 3: he even goes into it. To Neil Jordan, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, this is even back then, you know, because
Speaker 3: he had to exploit it then, because you know, it
Speaker 3: was making of Excalibur. He had the guy in the
Speaker 3: set right, but he really went into it and I
Speaker 3: and I just I love when a filmmaker is sort
Speaker 3: of so confessional about his private passion, his private focus,
Speaker 3: his reason a little tiny, dark, little, you know, closeted
Speaker 3: reasons for being and this Arthurian thing. And it really
Speaker 3: helped me understand his relationship with Pallenberg because had I
Speaker 3: not known that he wanted to be Arthur, he also
Speaker 3: knew that Arthur needed a Merlin and Pallenberg just his
Speaker 3: character just fit. They both fit the role. It was crazy,
Speaker 3: and so he wanted to It wasn't just my like
Speaker 3: author and I'm working it into my stories. He is
Speaker 3: living it somehow in his real life. He's putting himself
Speaker 3: in positions where he is Arthur and he has to
Speaker 3: learn from certain people, but those certain people have to
Speaker 3: fit such a fragile human criteria about his idea of Merlin,
Speaker 3: what he's, you know, where he's the sources he identifies
Speaker 3: with a million authors of Arthurian legends, So it really
Speaker 3: becomes quite a quite a vivid depiction of you know,
Speaker 3: the heart of this guy. And then you look at
Speaker 3: Deliverance again you go, wow, it's not the movie that
Speaker 3: I remember seeing a hundred times before, or you know,
Speaker 3: you know, Hell in the Pacific or point blank, you go,
Speaker 3: you know, wow, you realize you were innocent when you
Speaker 3: watched it for yourself, and then you've been you know,
Speaker 3: you've sort of been tainted, polluted by knowing the heartbeat
Speaker 3: behind these movies. I just love the feeling that you
Speaker 3: can films so many different ways, and it's like it's
Speaker 3: not just one movie you're watching or suddenly watching it
Speaker 3: through a bunch of different eyes. So this was a
Speaker 3: cool year for a lot of things, like you know,
Speaker 3: the Terminal Man, and also Francesco Simeoni at Radiance and
Speaker 3: Paul martin Kovic at Martinovac excuse me at Radiance and
Speaker 3: now Transmission. They're fantastic too because they I was asked
Speaker 3: simultaneously by these guys if I would do the Wicked
Speaker 3: Game a visual essay on Robert jo Song for the
Speaker 3: Wicked Games set and also uh for the Knight of
Speaker 3: the Juggler the Transmission release, which I'm really thinking, you know,
Speaker 3: I can't be disloyal to Keino, but I they didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't think they poured it over my visual essay,
Speaker 3: but I think, but you know, I honestly think that
Speaker 3: maybe the Transmission one. People has to ask. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of leaning towards that because there's a couple of things
Speaker 3: that could sort of poured over, not the Nathaniel Thompson
Speaker 3: Steve Mitchell commentary, but I may have to say, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe by both if you really care about the movie,
Speaker 3: because there's some really cool stuff on the Transmission one
Speaker 3: as a pretty hefty, hefty set, But I was. I
Speaker 3: loved doing both of those visual essays. Those I did alone.
Speaker 3: Again for the for the Oh Song, I really thought
Speaker 3: I had to. I found out. My god, I was
Speaker 3: shaking when I found out that Tim Lucas was doing
Speaker 3: the commentary for all three of those movies, and I'm like, I,
Speaker 3: you know, step out down.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't compete with my SOF. I wanted to know
Speaker 3: just to get a focus. I ended up calling Tim
Speaker 3: and asking him, like, permission to do this? I'm like that,
Speaker 3: but what am I? So he was very he was
Speaker 3: pretty pretty good with me on that one. He told me,
Speaker 3: you know, more than I hate asking people like what
Speaker 3: did you do? You know, what did you cover?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Such a classless thing to do. But I just didn't
Speaker 3: want to repeat. I didn't want to step on his
Speaker 3: toes because they were pretty mighty toes, you know, And
Speaker 3: I was I was looking forward to when I found
Speaker 3: out he was going, was like, gosh, do I even
Speaker 3: have anything new to say that would be interesting? But
Speaker 3: he was great, Like, we talked for a long time
Speaker 3: and I went and I was just able to suddenly
Speaker 3: do it, you know. But I love I love doing
Speaker 3: both of those pieces. I think Radiance and Transmission they're
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, Radiance is already like side
Speaker 3: swiping people in the world seriously. And I think Francisco
Speaker 3: I think he worked for Arrow for like ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yet he's found a totally new voice separate from
Speaker 3: that without without hurting anything that Arrow does.
Speaker 2: The funny thing though, a lot of what fran is
Speaker 2: doing now Arrow used to do, and you could literally
Speaker 2: tell what was fran coded that entire time, the moment
Speaker 2: he stepped away and the moment the Hut group thing happened,
Speaker 2: it is all a completely different world. And he I
Speaker 2: mean he stepped in and immediately was not just I
Speaker 2: don't know, not just successful, but like in an enthralling way,
Speaker 2: in a way that everybody was scared.
Speaker 3: At, beautifully put. Yeah, absolutely, I totally concur Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's remarkable and great though that now here you
Speaker 3: can we can talk about not even the producers of
Speaker 3: the disc the creators. Now we're talking about like the
Speaker 3: people who created the label.
Speaker 2: Like curation is a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, it's like, you know, it's just it's just wild.
Speaker 3: It's really wild, and it's so liberating to me because
Speaker 3: this is this is the world I've been inducted into.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, after we're after we're not live, we got to
Speaker 2: talk about something else about that too. That'll be fun
Speaker 2: before you hang, Okay, you got it's other than I
Speaker 2: think you've named a lot of the more recent ones.
Speaker 2: Other than that, how about some Keta Lber stuff you've
Speaker 2: done this year?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's where I like you.
Speaker 2: Name one of eighty three commentaries.
Speaker 3: That I mean, I mean, they're all, they're all really cool.
Speaker 3: I just have to be careful not to announce something
Speaker 3: that hasn't been well. Obviously, everybody Daniel and I Freakin's
Speaker 3: Rampage we wanted to do. And the thing was as
Speaker 3: funny is that afterwards, I think you've even commented on
Speaker 3: this phenomenon, is that you could be offered the greatest
Speaker 3: set on Earth, with the greatest x I print, the
Speaker 3: greatest transfer, and someone's going to be unhappy about like something,
Speaker 3: and afterwards, you know, not that I blame them, but
Speaker 3: it's like someone had noticed that there was like literally
Speaker 3: maybe a thirty five second scene or two or two
Speaker 3: thirty second not even scenes from the original. Maybe that
Speaker 3: maybe it was the Japanese laser disc now I had
Speaker 3: I didn't have when I was preparing for it. I
Speaker 3: didn't have the I didn't have the new version yet.
Speaker 3: I didn't have the the two new versions, and I
Speaker 3: only had the That's what I saw it. I had
Speaker 3: bought the laser disc, you know what, nineteen ninety, nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty nine or something that at a video a video
Speaker 3: store that I used to frequent.
Speaker 2: In Long Island and.
Speaker 3: So I had the laser so I watched the laser disc,
Speaker 3: so I didn't know. And it's like it must have
Speaker 3: been so minor that I didn't even notice it was
Speaker 3: missing because we're already in the thick of you know,
Speaker 3: now we have the thing, the actual thing, were watching it,
Speaker 3: and this is gonna happen. That's what Video Watchdog was
Speaker 3: there for. I mean, like, you know, there's a you know,
Speaker 3: if they were still Tim was still doing Video Watchdog,
Speaker 3: my god, it would be an insane It would be
Speaker 3: you know, a hundred different versions of every fucking movie,
Speaker 3: you know, so that you know, we did this, which
Speaker 3: I always thought the original was an astonishing freakin movie.
Speaker 3: And then when Mirramax, you know, basically after Delorentius ghosted
Speaker 3: him ghost right, and the contract was such where freaking
Speaker 3: owed the money to the people who didn't get you know,
Speaker 3: when the thing was not distributed. Uh, Dilarentiez just ghosted
Speaker 3: him and left him, so he had to do something.
Speaker 3: So Mirramax, I guess they screened it to test audiences
Speaker 3: who were already you know, I mean silence of the
Speaker 3: lammed out, you know, it was that was out, that
Speaker 3: wasn't out.
Speaker 2: That there was nothing when it was made.
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't made yet, but I'm sure there
Speaker 3: was the only reason why Merrimax agreed to do it,
Speaker 3: and and to when they when they did the new version,
Speaker 3: it's such a dramatically different edit. And I remember hearing
Speaker 3: before I saw the new version. I remember hearing freaking
Speaker 3: going on about you know, and it sounded so contrived, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I have this political stance and I think I changed
Speaker 3: as a human being, and blah blah blah. And then
Speaker 3: I find out, No, he needed that sale really bad,
Speaker 3: so I think he's just, you know, he he cheat
Speaker 3: just I don't know if he pretends the right word,
Speaker 3: but he and cocted this scenario, this pitch to audiences.
Speaker 3: Why you know that it has a difference, It really
Speaker 3: almost doesn't. What it does have is it's not subtle,
Speaker 3: and it becomes almost propagandistic, and they made him change
Speaker 3: every mysterious lyrical which is what his whole structure is.
Speaker 3: In any movie, you have to spend forty five minutes
Speaker 3: figuring out where you are, who you're with, what their
Speaker 3: point is, who these people are, and what's the drama
Speaker 3: and where we're going with it? I mean, watch the brinkstrip,
Speaker 3: any any movie French connection. You're not told, you're thrown
Speaker 3: in the middle of everything, and you sort it out eventually,
Speaker 3: like they have the characters.
Speaker 2: Even Jade start little jewelry boxes of right.
Speaker 3: Look, the longer version of Jade is fantastic. I mean,
Speaker 3: it just is a great. It's a great It does
Speaker 3: not resemble in those tiny minutes changes. It doesn't resemble
Speaker 3: the original that was in the theater. And this is
Speaker 3: sort of the same story with with Rampage. So I
Speaker 3: was really pleased with how that came out. I just
Speaker 3: didn't know that. I didn't notice there was another minutia.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm glad I owned the laser disc. I
Speaker 3: guess if there is something that's small. I haven't even
Speaker 3: gone back to see what those differences are yet, but
Speaker 3: but I was pretty proud of that. I thought we
Speaker 3: I thought that was a great movie, and I was
Speaker 3: really happy that people were finally getting to see it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's certainly not censored in any way or
Speaker 3: that there was anything, you know, you know, and we
Speaker 3: just did another movie as well. I can't I don't
Speaker 3: like announce that it's it's coming up.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 3: Another another movie where there was like we we did
Speaker 3: the theatrical release version of a movie coming up that's
Speaker 3: they're going to release, and they're including there's a European
Speaker 3: version which supposedly has more violence in it. It really
Speaker 3: does it like it does, but it's like, no, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: There's nothing there that you would never even notice it
Speaker 3: if you saw both versions back to it. So that's
Speaker 3: the only reason why I'm like, you know, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm not like that nor normally like, no it's censored.
Speaker 2: Apparently, No, it's not at all.
Speaker 3: It was just a couple of shots here and there,
Speaker 3: almost nothing like to be whacked out about. So I,
Speaker 3: you know, Nathaniel and I were both like, that's just
Speaker 3: really this is trivial. And I'm not being flippant about it,
Speaker 3: because again, like I, you know, there are cases where
Speaker 3: I would be like luckily, like the Devils, you know,
Speaker 3: where there's five different there are five different movies with
Speaker 3: five different themes. Now they've cut everything a different a
Speaker 3: different film. But Rampage was was a lot. It was
Speaker 3: really good. I really liked doing that. Again, you know,
Speaker 3: like Rachel pointed out, I really love doing the Belmondo's
Speaker 3: and the but not even for the bell, not even
Speaker 3: for the stars, not even for the directors or all
Speaker 3: these wonderful directors that were spit on by the new
Speaker 3: wave directors in France as being old fogies, and in
Speaker 3: which they weren't, I mean or cater having built up
Speaker 3: the language mainly around Hollywood directors and not a unique
Speaker 3: cultural voice, a stylistic voice from which you know, was
Speaker 3: a concern I guess of that era, late sixties, mid sixties.
Speaker 3: And so I really love I love going in and
Speaker 3: you know, introducing people to doctors like Usual Granier or
Speaker 3: or Jean Delenois or Jean Armand or you know, all
Speaker 3: these really really terrific directors.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of stuff that woudn't come out
Speaker 2: from anybody besides Keino, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: And I think they're doing a really great job mainly.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's not up to them. The
Speaker 3: elements are not always up to them, right, But I
Speaker 3: know I do know that, and I have a lot
Speaker 3: of respect for Frank Tarzi, who curates that company impeccably.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a couple of times where there
Speaker 3: was something that you know, we noticed about a print
Speaker 3: or something or and I know for a fact several
Speaker 3: times we would have reported to him, and he's when
Speaker 3: he couldn't find a satisfactory once he found out of
Speaker 3: the issue, if there wasn't a satisfactory conclusion, rather than
Speaker 3: cynically treat it like a product and just throw it
Speaker 3: out there, he refused to do it until better elements
Speaker 3: were found or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So I really, you know, give huge hats off to
Speaker 3: Frank for for again, like you're saying, you know, you're
Speaker 3: saying it's and it's not just because you know they've
Speaker 3: they've gotten the catalog. He's you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: sort of it's it's still curated out of out of
Speaker 3: love for those titles, out of you know, or at
Speaker 3: least you know, him wanting to, you know, learn more
Speaker 3: about the movie than you know himself. So Keino has
Speaker 3: done some great stuff this year. I mean, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think of others. My god, yeah, I can't even
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, the sugar Hill we did. These are
Speaker 3: something that just kind of got passed by critics and
Speaker 3: stuff we did sugar Hill, Nathaniel and Steve Mitchell and
Speaker 3: I we did Orca, which I love you know and
Speaker 3: and I knew, you know, I had encounters with Richard
Speaker 3: Harris about it when I was trying to kind of
Speaker 3: do something, uh to a voice over for me.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: He was a great guy and and he told me
Speaker 3: a lot. He really spilled his guts out over it too.
Speaker 2: It is kind of cool.
Speaker 3: Made me go back and read the novel, uh to
Speaker 3: see there was a lot of a lot of changes
Speaker 3: in it. But like Orca, I thought was a really
Speaker 3: good track. And also the god, the god said if
Speaker 3: you saw that a British I thought that was a
Speaker 3: wonderful little movie, really unnecessarily nuanced, and you know, it
Speaker 3: was like, wow, this is very you know, literary almost away,
Speaker 3: and it was smart and a good ultimately a cool
Speaker 3: horror film that separated itself from why it was you know,
Speaker 3: because of the omen you know it was.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Different, there's a different, totally different thing. Wasn't a cynical ripoff.
Speaker 3: It was handled by some interesting people. So it was good.
Speaker 3: You know, it was definitely a good lush year. But
Speaker 3: there's so many titles that I'm I'm forgetting, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, you give hats off to Frank Tarzan, we
Speaker 2: got we gotta give heads off to you. You and
Speaker 2: Nathaniel and Eugenio and Troy Awarth and Steve Mitchell and
Speaker 2: all these people are not even unstoppable. Like it is
Speaker 2: crazy when I do the show every single week that
Speaker 2: there are sometimes I say Nathaniel Thompson's name five times
Speaker 2: in one week.
Speaker 3: Undoubtedly, yeah, literally yeah, and Eugenio same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and he's doing not only that, he's acquiring films
Speaker 2: for some of these companies, he's doing somebody of the interviews,
Speaker 2: he's editing things. She's h he's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He literally must have a discipline where every day he
Speaker 3: has to go to five homes to shoot, you know,
Speaker 3: to archive every literally working every working talent in Italy,
Speaker 3: you know. And then now yeah, you're right now he's
Speaker 3: going to moving into other countries too.
Speaker 2: KD bless him.
Speaker 3: He's kick cool, really really cool.
Speaker 2: That's good. You know.
Speaker 3: I did a couple of things and him.
Speaker 2: Again, I can't they haven't been announced, so I can't say.
Speaker 3: And we're about to do another Nathaniel and Genie and
Speaker 3: I were about to do another commentary nice in another week,
Speaker 3: in like a week or something like that. Yeah, after
Speaker 3: after the New Years. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's and
Speaker 3: it's really great. I learned. I learned so much from
Speaker 3: these guys, you know, and I'm just very happy that
Speaker 3: they want me along occasionally, you know, so, But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was this.
Speaker 2: Year too, buddy.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, you don't see as yourself
Speaker 3: because you know, when you're in the thick of it,
Speaker 3: it's just war until you're you know, when you were
Speaker 3: back from the war. But you know, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you're you're definitely you know, a major you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you're a valve in our you know, in the in
Speaker 3: the in the heart that beats our careers. So uh,
Speaker 3: you know, much much appreciation for sure.
Speaker 2: Doing what I can. Again, like I was saying, it was,
Speaker 2: it was an honor to be able to do one
Speaker 2: with this year. I can't wait to do another one.
Speaker 2: I think the Ugly turned out great and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it was an interesting one for us to do it
Speaker 2: for a first title together. But I'm ready for a
Speaker 2: second one. Yeah, you let me know, you know where
Speaker 2: I am. You got it.
Speaker 3: I have all that guest now in two years, so
Speaker 3: that's a good feeling.
Speaker 2: I'm all right, Well, we'll get the chain off someday.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time tonight. I hope Christmas was great
Speaker 2: for you. Thanks for spending it with me.
Speaker 3: Yeap of course, anytime, Ryan, you know, uh, everybody bringing
Speaker 3: out Yeah, thank you everybody who picked who wrote questions.
Speaker 3: This is this is really great. I'm very humbled. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much.
Speaker 2: Well, everybody has got more questions. Same in the chat.
Speaker 2: I'll try to I'll try to pour him over to
Speaker 2: Howard somewhere and maybe we can respond to some of those. Again,
Speaker 2: thank you all for hanging out. It's Christmas and we
Speaker 2: got a bunch of people watching night. That's gotta be amazing.
Speaker 2: Next week, it's already the first of the year, which
Speaker 2: means it's time for brand new vinegar cinder announcements. We've
Speaker 2: got a lot to cover next next Thursday, that is
Speaker 2: the start of subscriber week. Lots to cover then. Of course,
Speaker 2: until then, stay safe. I know there's a flooding and
Speaker 2: lots of sickness going on out there for everybody, so
Speaker 2: stay out of it and until then we'll see you
Speaker 2: next Thursday.
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