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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. A state of emergency has been

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<v Speaker 1>declared on Greece's island of Santorini. It was rattled by

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty strong earthquake. This is after they've seen dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of earthquakes over the last couple of days, much smaller ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But this new one about a five point two they said,

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<v Speaker 1>occurred at a depth of only three miles. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know because we're earthquake experts. That's pretty shaky, they said.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousands of people have been fleeing the island of Santorini

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<v Speaker 1>and its neighbors there in the U, G and C

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<v Speaker 1>because they are concerned that there is yet even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>earthquakes on the horizon. There were a couple court things

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about when it comes to the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>A federal judge has temporary blocked the administration and Doge

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<v Speaker 1>head Elon Musk from implementing the fork in the Road

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<v Speaker 1>federal employee buyout offer at least until Monday. More than

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<v Speaker 1>two million federal employees had a deadline of tonight to

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<v Speaker 1>accept the administration's buyout offer about eight months salary and benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>but again it's on hold. We do know that about

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand of them have already accepted the offer. Federal

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<v Speaker 1>judge in Seattle also issued a nation wide preliminary injunction

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<v Speaker 1>against the Executive Order on birthright citizenship, a day after

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<v Speaker 1>a judge in Maryland also issued a temporary block on

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<v Speaker 1>the order. Bottom of the hour, By the speaking of Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some strange science and Trump story that we'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>To that's coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>What else is going on? Time for what's happening, Well, our.

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<v Speaker 1>Second storm is making its way through southern California. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to notice the drizzle, obviously some very light rain

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of the day today. By about six

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock tonight is when we expect to see some

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<v Speaker 1>of it coming in the form of actual rain, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more steady, a little bit more water, but

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<v Speaker 1>still less than an inch expected to fall in most areas.

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<v Speaker 1>Some mountain foo hill locations could see two inches. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, you're just going to see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of localized flooding because that's what happens when it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't rain for a while, and it could potentially cause

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<v Speaker 1>some problems as you're driving home from work tonight. The

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<v Speaker 1>former interpreter who stole millions from Sho hey Otani is

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<v Speaker 1>to be sentenced today federal charges that related to him

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<v Speaker 1>stealing about seventeen million dollars from Shohyotani.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a note, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Be nice to have so much money that seventeen million

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<v Speaker 1>missing didn't really cause a blip. This guy, Epei Misuhara,

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<v Speaker 1>admitted to transferring money from show Heyotani's account for more

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<v Speaker 1>than two years to pay off his own gambling debts.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he impersonated show Hey on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>dozen occasions and calls to the bank. Prosecutor said that

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<v Speaker 1>this thing was deep and it was extensive fraud, and

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<v Speaker 1>that Shoh was harmed substantially by Ipe Mizuhara's actions.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't look now, but mortgage are going down. Mortgage.

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<v Speaker 1>The average US rate on a thirty year mortgage fell

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<v Speaker 1>to six point eight nine percent, the third straight weekly decline.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were lucky enough to hit this thing at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, you're still sitting on about a two point

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<v Speaker 1>nine maybe a three point three percent mortgage rate. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we ever see that again, and mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>the bond market reacts to the Fed's interest rate policy decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>But the average rate on a thirty year mortgage did

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<v Speaker 1>fall to a two year low just above six percent

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<v Speaker 1>last September. It's mostly been going up since then, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the sharp rise that we've seen in the tenure

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<v Speaker 1>treasury LEELD treasury yield, that is which lenders use as

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<v Speaker 1>a guide for pricing some of those home loans. So

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<v Speaker 1>again it looks like it's down for the third straight

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<v Speaker 1>week to six point eight nine percent. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this in the ten o'clock hour today, but it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like firefighters who reported to show up to assist during

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<v Speaker 1>were a bunch of fire equipment vehicles that were down

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<v Speaker 1>for maintenance. KTLA has jumped on this story. The Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal had a version of it, but they looked

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<v Speaker 1>inside the largest LA Fire Department maintenance yard in the

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Heights area and they saw dozens and dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you what has caused them to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>The LAFD has not had the funding mechanism to supply

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<v Speaker 1>all of the engines and trucks and ambulances that are

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in there. New video shows somebody detaining a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>passenger on a Frontier Airlines flight. Why because the guy

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<v Speaker 1>punched the window on a Frontier Airliness flight from Denver

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<v Speaker 2>He punched the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Now close to the window, the one that's next to you,

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<v Speaker 1>able to crack the plexiglass window, which is still pretty thick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the kind that you'd buy it at home

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<v Speaker 1>depot or something like that, but he cracked that window,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was enough to cause other passengers to determine

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<v Speaker 1>that he was potentially a threat. So when the flight

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner Phillips, a guy served in the army and several

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<v Speaker 1>others stepped up, said Tanner said, he was very physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked him up and put him on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>ties and a shoelace and that'll do it. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to do. They were able to keep him

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<v Speaker 1>restrained during the rest of the flight. That didn't help,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because people are looking at this cracked window

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that that's going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, and then it looks like The Boy Scouts

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<v Speaker 1>of America, a historic rebrand of the Boy Scouts of

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<v Speaker 1>America has been followed by a little uptick in young

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<v Speaker 1>people who want to join. They're now calling it Scouting America.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been leaning into their message of inclusivity. They celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>their one hundred and fifteenth birthday just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days from now. The CEO and president of Scouting America

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<v Speaker 1>says there's been some backlash to the rebrand after it

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<v Speaker 1>a positive thing. The gain in membership is small. It's

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<v Speaker 1>up less than two percent from the year before, but

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<v Speaker 1>they'll take it. They have over about a million members

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States right now. A couple stories we're

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<v Speaker 1>following a second federal judge in a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>as black President Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids of parents who are in the United States illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>This district judge out of Seattle decried what he described

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<v Speaker 1>does the administration's treatment of the Constitution and said that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was trying to change the Constitution by executive order. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this decision from today comes just after a day, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>just a day after a judge in Maryland issued a

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide pause in a separate but similar case that involved

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<v Speaker 1>some immigrant rights groups and some pregnant women who's soon

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<v Speaker 1>to be born children would be affected by all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel says it has begun preparations for the departure of

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<v Speaker 1>large numbers of Palestinians from the Gaza strip that would

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<v Speaker 1>be in line with President Trump's plan to empty the

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<v Speaker 1>territory of its population so that it could be rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you a napper?

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<v Speaker 1>People who make a habit of sleeping on the job

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<v Speaker 1>comprise a secret society of sorts within the labor force.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, there's some famous power nappers, Winston Churchill, Albert Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. These committed nap takers will sneak in short

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<v Speaker 1>rest breaks because they think the practice would improve their

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<v Speaker 1>cognitive performance, but still carries a stigma, so they'll go

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<v Speaker 1>down to their car in the parking garage or turned

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<v Speaker 1>down a side street before the school run. They can

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<v Speaker 1>rent nap pods in some areas by the hour. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also a story that suggests that a short nap

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<v Speaker 1>no more than about thirty minutes could rejuvenate you for

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon without really disturbing all of your nighttime sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we talked about this headline that's been making

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<v Speaker 1>been detected in US dairy cow specifically, a herd in

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada infected with a new type of bird flu different

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<v Speaker 1>from the version that spread in the US since last year.

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<v Speaker 1>USDA says this tape type A H five N one

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<v Speaker 1>and the concern is that it could be more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>The B three one three was the version that was

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<v Speaker 1>spreading late all of last year and into this year.

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<v Speaker 1>This new version, known as D one one, was can

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<v Speaker 1>firmed in the cattle in Nevada on Friday, was detected

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<v Speaker 1>in milk that's collected as part of a surveillance program

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<v Speaker 1>launched in December. We've talked about the impact that bird

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<v Speaker 1>flu is having.

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<v Speaker 2>Poultry prices have gone up.

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<v Speaker 1>Egg prices have been skyrocking, and that's because we've had

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<v Speaker 1>to kill or cull, if you like the better term,

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<v Speaker 1>the more clean term. We've had to call millions and

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<v Speaker 1>millions of birds so that bird flu doesn't spread. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get a bird or two birds in a flock

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands, they kill the entire flock because they know

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<v Speaker 1>that it is potential, it has the potential to spread wide.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was also something that happened back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven where we just barely dodged a bullet when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to the bird flu. Maurice Hillerman Hilleman, sorry

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<v Speaker 1>was an expert in the flu, and in nineteen fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy was also looking for cheap eggs, not because

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to them, because he needed fertilized eggs to

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<v Speaker 1>make vaccines that would be key to stopping a flu epidemic,

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<v Speaker 1>or a flu pandemic in that case. This guy was

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<v Speaker 1>born just after the Spanish flu back in nineteen eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the politically correct term is now for the

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish fluw and he started worrying about the egg supply

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty seven because scientists had a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated understanding about the flu than they had previously, and

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<v Speaker 1>that knowledge led them to a fear that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be another pandemic similar to the Spanish flu in nineteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't want to see millions of people die again.

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<v Speaker 1>So in April nineteen fifty seven, Maurice Hillman opens his

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper and sees an article about glassy eyed patients that

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<v Speaker 1>were overwhelming the clinics in Hong Kong. The article very short.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an American newspaper. It's about a sickness in Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an front page news. It was eight sentences long.

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<v Speaker 1>But all he needed was the four words of the

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<v Speaker 1>which was Hong Kong battling influenza, and he was concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Within about a month of this. He had requested, obtained,

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<v Speaker 1>and tested a sample of the virus from his colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>that Americans did not have immunity against this new version

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<v Speaker 1>of the flu, and he was worried that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a pandemic. So in the spring of fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the government calls for vaccine manufacturers to accelerate the production

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<v Speaker 1>of this new flu vaccine for all Americans because of

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was appearing in Asia. Now, traditionally, farmers

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<v Speaker 1>have been called on to kill off roosters and any

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<v Speaker 1>unwonted chickens to keep their costs low, but in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Maurice Hillman asked, farmers, don't kill your roosters. I need

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<v Speaker 1>the same as the flu back in nineteen eighteen. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So cal Edison says its equipment may have sparked a

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<v Speaker 1>which are thousands of dollars a year, I mean somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's beyond just what you get on their website.

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<v Speaker 1>about legislation that was denied. She Caroline Levitt said that

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<v Speaker 1>them better at their jobs. Again, this is what Politico says,

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, fine, If these are individual government

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<v Speaker 1>would violate President Trump's executive orders. Right now, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a list of keywords, and this doesn't mean that they're

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of a to me, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>those and go through and see what they're actually studying. Oppression, polarization,

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for strange science, strange sience. It's like weird science,

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<v Speaker 1>I referred to bonobos as a monkey. They are an

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<v Speaker 1>Because they are brainiacs, they should have no problem finding

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<v Speaker 1>the sweet treat, right. But here's the wrinkle. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins helped run this experiment and said the bonobos knew

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<v Speaker 1>They described the bonobos behavior in a paper that came

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<v Speaker 1>We humans use it to communicate and coordinate with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>In some of the trials, the researcher could see the

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<v Speaker 1>of this thing, so it's the size of about a fingertip,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course makes the whole thing seem pretty futuristic.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we talked I talked earlier about this whole

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<v Speaker 1>bird flu thing and price of chickens, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be going up, Eggs is already up.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a way to get our chicken without you know,

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<v Speaker 1>actual chicken? And here's a new development. Lab grown chicken

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<v Speaker 1>meat is now on store shelves in the UK. They

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<v Speaker 1>said it's a the world's first. They said it's an

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<v Speaker 1>innovative product. It's produced without traditional farming, without animal slaughter obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say it tastes exactly like chicken. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not currently available. It's only a limited addition, a limited location.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. It's called chick Bites.

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<v Speaker 1>The product was recently introduced as at a Pets at

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<v Speaker 1>Home store in London. Plant based ingredients cultivated chicken grown

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<v Speaker 1>in a laboratory setting. Here's how they do it. They

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<v Speaker 1>take a single egg.

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<v Speaker 2>One egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Meatly Is, the company that's behind this thing, emphasizes the

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<v Speaker 1>health benefits of their product. It contains all the essential

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<v Speaker 1>amino acids, the fatty acids, the vitamins and minerals found

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<v Speaker 1>in traditional chicken, without the environmental impact or ethical concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the CEOs, or Thus CEO, said, just two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago it felt like a moonshot, and to today

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<v Speaker 1>we take off with a giant leap forward toward a

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<v Speaker 1>significant market for which meat is healthy, sustainable and kind

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<v Speaker 1>to our planet. Europe has approached this old lab grown

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<v Speaker 1>meat with some caution, but other nations have shown greater

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm for this. The first fully cultivated hamburger was developed

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<v Speaker 1>almost eleven years twelve years ago, and since then an

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli company has pioneered by opening multiple lab to fork restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds disgusting offering consumers. They said, the first hand

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<v Speaker 1>experience of this innovative food solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, not ready for lab grown meats. Not ready for it.

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