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Speaker 1: Since twenty sixteen, I've been blessed with the opportunity to

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share conversations with those that have been featured on NBC's

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The Voice. Sure, we'd put them up on the platform,

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but then most people were going, so where's it at?

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So now we finally centralized.

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Speaker 2: It for you.

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Speaker 1: Every performer from twenty sixteen forward ero dot net A

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R R O E dot net enjoy the exploration, Hey,

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what's going on, John? How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good man? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I sure can man, your voice is coming through loud

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and clear, wrapped around the world, you know how that is?

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Speaker 2: Oh sweet? That is what I needed to hear.

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Speaker 1: So that line behind you, is that a symbol of

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the of a victory? I mean, because I mean that's

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a that's a and it's got the lamb. So now

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and see, now I can see what's going on behind

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you there, sir.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, sir, yeah, that's yeah, that's christ. It represents

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the line in the lamb.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I just wanted to hear it from your

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vocal tones, man, because you know, because that's who we

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are these days. It seems like we all sit there.

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We'll judge a book by its cover. Hit social media

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and never get the story right.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, that's one of the things I was

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gonna ask, is you know, because I can't hardly tell

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the story.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell the story without including God in it exactly.

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Speaker 2: So it's well, good, I'm glad. I'm glad that well.

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Speaker 3: And I try to make that real apparent in the

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in the emails that I send out, is that hey, listen,

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this is I've got to give him credit, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so well, that's one of the things that Steven

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Ferdick from Elevation Church has taught us throughout the years,

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is the fact that you've got to do the credit. Man,

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give it, give the credit it's due. And then and

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make sure that you work together as a team because

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it is about a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is, absolutely, Yeah, it's the only way to go.

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Speaker 1: So then let me ask you this question. Is this

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a testimony or is this a story? And is there

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a difference between the two.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't know that. I don't know that.

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My business, my.

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Speaker 3: Everything is an absolute just testimony of God grace really,

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I mean from from day one, and so yeah, it's uh,

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it's so interwoven in who I am is you know,

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I'm not trying to be a minister. I'm not trying

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to necessarily, you know. I mean part of this is that,

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you know, I'm getting my business out there now that

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we went national.

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Speaker 2: But I want people to know what the business is about.

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Speaker 3: And it isn't about uh good contractors. It's about it's

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about Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: It's about you know. Uh. I followed his voice.

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Speaker 3: I didn't follow the voice of all the business people

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out there that told me, you know, uh that that

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it would fail because you know, it was the worst

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business model on the planet. You know, I heard so

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many different things because it's so not a business plan,

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you know, it was it was a mission and I

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felt like God brought me on that and so it

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was it was mine to a steward And that's I mean,

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that's even the why I use my middle name Stewart

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in things is because it's about stewardship of what He's

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given you to.

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Speaker 1: Nice nice nice. So yeah, see, I love that journey,

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and the reason being is because it gives you the

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opportunity to connect the pieces together. Because I've been in

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radio for forty six years and the thing is, though,

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is that what does it have to show for me?

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I can't say that, you know about a relationship with

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God is because I have a lot to show for that,

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whereas the radio it's like I have nothing. So you're

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right when it comes to the separation between your career

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and a higher power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I love it. Well, I'm glad that you're

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Speaker 1: Well you're europeen to it too. And where did you

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get that confidence to take that step? Because you know

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how some people are they don't want to talk about it.

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My mother was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just you know.

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Speaker 3: I I don't I don't think I have an option.

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It's just like who I am, Like I wish I'm like,

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the pieces that happened that were out of my control,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's and so it's just who I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a religious person in this in the in

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the form of religion being religious, but I do have

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a relationship like a daily I get to minister more

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on a daily basis than I ever did when I

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was in church and doing all things.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's what I've always called knocking down the

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four walls of the church and getting out there on

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the streets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I actually even created back in twenty nineteen, right before COVID.

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Actually God started talking to me about building a website

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for house churches, and so I created a website called

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find a house Church dot com. And so I feel

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like that's gonna someday come back around. And I think

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probably the Good Contractor's List is somewhat of a platform

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to to increase my.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, influence, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just it's like God, God has a

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He's given me a huge vision and.

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Speaker 2: It's all kingdom. Man.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like that's and it's impossible. So it's like, well,

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the Good Contractor's List was one of those impossibilities. It's

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like you're not going to be able to guarantee contractors work, yeah,

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you know, you know, and he's proven them wrong, all

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of them wrong, Like they were all saying that you

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can't do it.

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Speaker 1: So now to the average listener, what is the good contractor?

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Because we all are bombarded by people who we've been

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in family business for forty three years don't care. So

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then you know, it's one of those things that what

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are we talking about when he comes to the good contractors.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's different about us is we didn't really it

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wasn't really about.

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Speaker 2: The money, you know, it was it was what.

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Speaker 3: I felt like God gave me, and so I didn't

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I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure

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out how am I going to make more money? It

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was like, how can I give people more? And one

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of the things that was obvious to me is I

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was there to protect homeowners from these bad contractors, you know,

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Speaker 2: Kind of grew nice, you know, from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: And so what we're doing now, you know, it was

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in Dallas Fort Worth for fourteen years. We've been doing

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this since twenty eleven. We've backed over five billion dollars

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worth of work and out of pocket so far, we've

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got we've come out of pocket one hundred and twenty

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seven thousand dollars in fourteen years. So you know, yeah,

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we've had to take some of the contractors out. We

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have an amazing screening process now. We have FBI level

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background checks that we do on the owners.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, no, we don't.

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Speaker 3: We can't take a chance because we literally put a

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twenty five thousand dollars guarantee on every job they do.

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party now they can go to other than the contractor.

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organization because they they're good contractors because that they take

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care of business and you know, they don't need somebody's

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third party guarantee. But in today's world to have a

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third party that takes responsibility is like it's unheard of.

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You don't there's not another resource out there like it

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that you know. It's like in most in most cases,

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they want to sell as many leads to as many

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contractors for as much as possible, you know, And what

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we do is a I mean we and this is

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this is sounds crazy, It sounds like how how are.

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Speaker 2: You even gonna make it?

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Speaker 3: But we we charge five hundred dollars setup fee and

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two hundred and fifty dollars a month. Yeah, and what

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we do is we treat it truly is a movement

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of good contractors who are banding together to protect homeowners.

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Speaker 2: You know, while.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else is trying to get more money for more leads,

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we want to we bring them together, and they start

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saying the same thing. We have all the services here

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that are backed by twenty five thousand dollars guarantee. We're

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a movement that's trying to protect homeowners. And so pretty

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soon when they get all their homeowners registered for the

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guarantee and they start bringing other contractors in from all

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the different services, they'll have what we call a safe

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contractor community. And as the word gets out, then the

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homeowners come to the Good Contractors List to find their contractors,

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which means that for two hundred and fifty dollars a

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month they can together create what I call a community,

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a community base lead ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, so that's all I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's like, because we did the right thing, and everyone's

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doing the right thing, and you know, the homeowner, the

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homeowners are watching to make sure we have the right people.

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that has a bad contractor, and you know, yes, so

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it so it becomes an organ It's it's a movement, man,

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it's a it's a it's a living organism of people

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who are bent on doing the right thing. And uh,

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and it takes care of itself. But you know, it's

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not the it's not the biggest money maker on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be back with John Stuart

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Hill coming up next. This is absolutely one of the

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most brilliant ideas the good contractors. Let's get back in

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with John Stuart Hill. Do you have to face the

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evil empire the hoas when it comes to these contractors,

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Because when it comes to home building anymore, or even

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home owning these days, that hoa stands in the way

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of so many decisions being made.

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Speaker 2: I really haven't seen any problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Especially a matter of fact, we even have homeowners associations

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that want to use our list because I mean it's

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every contractor is backed by twenty five thousand dollars guarantees.

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So none of the homeowners get ripped off. There's nobody

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going to show up and just disappear, and it go

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around the neighborhood that they let somebody in, you know,

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so it's like, no.

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Speaker 2: We're real estate friendly.

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Speaker 3: It's like the real estate agents, you know, they're afraid

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to refer contractors because they don't know who to trust.

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So now here's a resource in their hands, you know,

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if they if they if they have a safe contractor

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community in their neighborhood, then they now they have a

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place that they can refer homeowners without actually referring a

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contractor that could could look bad on their reputation. So

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it's like, so it's really a great resource to you know,

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for just about everyone involved.

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Speaker 2: I can't see a downside to it.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's it's such a perfect move because

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I know that in our own neighborhood, we've all been

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together twenty five to thirty years, and that nobody moves

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until somebody else makes the first step and then we

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you know, for instance, like when it came to fiber,

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we all got when nowhere all starting to get the

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fiber now, but it only took forever to get it

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because nobody wanted to be the first one to jump

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But it's like that.

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Speaker 3: It's like that in a movement too, is that when

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when someone says, oh, okay, I see the difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh and so and so did it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well I won't look so dumb if it's me

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and it fails, you know, and I think homeowners naturally

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feel that way. And I've kind of been in this

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unique situation being in between contractors and homeowners for the

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last fourteen years, and so I've seen some a different

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perspective of things. Homeowners are scared going into this. They're

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afraid they're going to look like a fool. They're you know,

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if that guy is the one that took advantage of

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them or charged them too much.

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Speaker 2: They're afraid to talk about it with their neighbors, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so when the least little thing happens, which we

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live in a real world and contracting is difficult, I mean,

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it's it's got a lot of moving parts. And so

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you know, the first time somebody uh gets delayed because

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the electrician had lost someone in his family and wasn't

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able to make it on the day he was supposed

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to be there, when that caused that to not work,

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and then and then next thing, you know, it just

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kind of snowballs, and homeowners will get really really defensive

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and and be like, oh, no.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got one of those guys. And so

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by being in the middle, you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Was easier to to de escalate those issues, you know,

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by just being the voice of truth and just saying, hey,

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you know, this happened, and it's it's it's a normal

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thing for in life, and so we're here, we'll we'll

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be right beside you all the way to the end,

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and let's just let him get done with the job.

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And so I think that a lot of things that

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don't really need to escalate escalate quickly just out of.

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Speaker 1: Fear or assumption.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: And so by having that third party there just to

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kind of buffer things and go, hey, you're not alone.

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These guys are good, or they wouldn't be on our list,

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and it just takes the fear out. It makes the

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homeowner go, oh okay, well, as long as you're with us,

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and we do we do everything from most things can

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happen through emailing on the phone, by just opening up

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communication correctly. But there have been times that we go

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out to the home and actually inspect the work. So,

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I mean it'll be that way across the United States.

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We'll have inspectors that can pop in and look and go,

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you know, is this homeowner feeling like you know, I mean,

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things are expensive now, so sometimes homeowners just go, man,

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did I pay too much for this, I feel like

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I got more, you know, and so they start nitpicking

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everything and try to get stuff for free.

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Speaker 2: And there's so many things.

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Speaker 3: The review system is being used to manipulate contractors, you know.

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They they have to give away stuff sometimes because homeowners

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will threaten, you know, if you don't throw this in,

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I just don't feel like you did get enough job

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or whatever, I'm going to write a bad review. And

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it's just the world's messed up.

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Speaker 1: So in reality, what you're doing is you're creating an

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open door conversation. Then you're bringing people together because you're

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right when when something goes wrong, for instance, I need

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to have my deck repaired, instead of me going out

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there and half ass in it, what happens is is

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that you get somebody such as what you're doing with

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good contractors, and then you're guaranteed the work is going

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to be satisfied.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, that's exactly it.

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Speaker 3: And if there if there is a disagreement, they can

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they can bring us in and we'll look at you know,

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And obviously the first step would be like take some pictures,

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show us and you know, we'll we'll start there and

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you know, and there's been There's been times that the

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contractor thought he could really trust his foreman out there

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and and uh, all I took care.

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Speaker 2: Of that, and they didn't.

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Speaker 3: And so you know when we had to call him

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to the carpet and say you need to go out there,

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and we'll bring the owner out, you know, look at

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the job, and they go, oh, man, man, this is

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not our quality. This is not the kind of work

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that we do. I'm sorry, you know, And then all

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of a sudden things are better.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just like I like to call I like to

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look at us more like the voice of truth. We're

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we're kind of more like counselors sometimes than we are

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anything else.

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Speaker 2: Is that good? You know?

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Speaker 3: We like to we like to we like to strengthen relationships,

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and that's what we do. We we strengthen the relationship

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between a homeowner and a contractor. And if they're a

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good guy and they do things right, man, we'll we'll

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bend over backwards to do whatever form.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't you see that we're in a resurgence right

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now of rebuilding the community that when we get somebody

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like this on our team, it stays within that neighborhood.

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And this way, then our community remains strong as well,

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instead of being the one that hides because something might

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be wrong with being the crawl space of the house

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and you don't want to talk about it in front

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of your neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Right well, I mean community is so important, especially in

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the day of AI.

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Speaker 2: I mean think about that. I mean, you can go

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buy reviews, you can.

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Speaker 3: Go there's so many there's so many fake things out

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there that you know, to have something that's genuine really

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makes a difference. And the only way that you know

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that is in a community you don't like. I mean,

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if you're a you're just out there on your own,

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just you know, trying to figure things out on your own,

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you're in a dangerous position.

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Speaker 2: You really need to be part of a community. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's that's so that's so true because that

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that's where people start losing grip and they start losing

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interest all of a sudden. You know, the house down

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there in the corner, it's now empty because they decided

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to move on because they didn't feel it. And and

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this is a situation where you know, you feel it

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once it begins to happen. I mean, you're bringing something

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brand new to the neighborhoods.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I mean that's one of the you know,

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with I find a house church idea, I really felt

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like that was the opportunity for everyone in the neighborhood

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to even get to know each other. Hey, you just

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want to get together and hang out and get to

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know our neighbors. And so, you know, we we did

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this here and we lived in Burlison, Texas. Whenever I

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first started this, and I put out a couple of

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yard signs saying find a house church, because you know,

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I didn't want to put my dress out there. You

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go to the find a House church and then you

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were able to look up and and and you know,

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they saw that that little I had. I put out

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three signs that said go to find a house church

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dot com, you know, and and people started going. And

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next thing, you know, I have twenty people in the

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house coming, you know, once a week, just together and

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and and we we we all communicated. It wasn't like

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we were all sitting out in a pew and I

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was talking. It's like we all we were a community

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of people, and we all had value. And that's and

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that's where I feel like a lot of the church

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is missing, you know? Uh? Is that is that they

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go there and they can they can show up for church,

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they can feel like they're part of something and not

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actually ever even really talk to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Tell me that you don't feel the same vibe that

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this is like being on that boat. Jesus is over

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there in the other room. There's a big storm going on,

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Paul and those guys are all worried about the storm,

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and all of a sudden, it's like, just guys, find

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your peace. When we get on shore. We're going to

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change people's lives. And it just feels like because all

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three of those guys never really had anything in common

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except for except for their conviction, and and and that's

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the thing about it. And then and then what look

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what what happened after that was a they used it

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together as one tool, and look how many people's lives

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one what was it, five loaves of bread feeding five thousand?

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Speaker 2: Come on now, yeah, it multiplies. Yeah. And and they

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also knew who they were following.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was that was that was probably the most

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powerful part of it.

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Speaker 2: Is Yeah, I'm scared. I'm scared. But if he says it, yep,

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you know, I can stop you know.

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Speaker 3: And so that's and that's kind of how I've lived

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my life. Uh, you know early as matter of fact,

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you know, my backstory is that in twenty eleven, I

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had a heart attack, and uh and I really had

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been praying for two solid months that God would take me.

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I had been praying that because I was at such

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a low point divorce three times, didn't have any kind

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of any kind of real job that I thought would

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ever become anything. I was selling coupons at the time.

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You know, I'm like, Callie, I'm forty two years old

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and I've done nothing. I've touched nobody, you know, Please

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just I'm ready to go. And so this business didn't

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start in a place of me understanding how powerful I

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am or any of those things that you know. I

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had no business experience, I had no business background.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any money. Like, there was nothing going

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for me when.

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Speaker 3: I start this business other than in the process of

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that heart attack and coming out on the other side,

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I felt like God said, if you decide to stay,

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I'll be with you you and I'll give you a

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purpose in that beautiful Yeah, it's so crazy, because I

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left in worse shape than I went in. Obviously I'd

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had an heart attack and had you know, I was

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forty to fifty percent of my heart was scarred. I

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had to have a pacemaker to keep it squeezing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: He was like I was that I was in worse

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shape than I went in on the outside. But on

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the inside, all I knew was like I know what

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God said, Like I know with all of my soul

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that He is with me, and I have a purpose.

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I don't know what it looks like. I had no

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idea it was ever going to be about contractors. It

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was about walking out there knowing that I have a purpose,

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and that's all I knew. And so within six months

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I was selling coupons, Like I was telling you, So

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was trying to sell a coupon to a local plumber

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and he goes, Man, I don't really know if I

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want to pay for this all by myself.

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Speaker 2: He goes, but I know.

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Speaker 3: A really good electrician that I trust with all my

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you know, business, and I have a roofer that I

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really trust, and we could go in together and buy

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this ad. And I was like, oh, like, so y'all

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would like be you know, you'd be the plumber and

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the roofer and the electrician and y'all would kind of

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come together as a good contractor, right, like a list

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of contracts. Maybe we should get a bunch of different

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people together and then y'all could all go together and

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buy this ad. It we even be that, you know,

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that much more less expensive to you guys. And so,

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but then two solid nights I couldn't go to sleep

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because it was just it was like God.

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Speaker 2: Was downloading yes the vision, and I was like, oh, man.

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Speaker 3: So I went into my boss and I said, you know,

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I was an outside sales so I could look. I

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could go out and at least see if someone was interested.

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Speaker 2: In my idea. But I was like, that's not integrity, man.

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Speaker 3: And so I went in and I talked to my

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boss and I said, hey, man, I'm going to have

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to quit. I've got this idea. I told him what

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it was, and I've got to do it. I don't

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know how I'm going to do it, but I got

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to do it.

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Speaker 2: And quit.

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Speaker 3: Had one paycheck coming to me, had no money in

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the bank, no savings, and just went out. And at

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first I had started with a yellow legal pad going

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into contractors and you know, just trying to find out

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who who's the good guys in town? And I would

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go talk to them and I was drawing it. I

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was literally drawing it on a legal pad. We're going

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to have a website someday and it's going to look

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like this and this is where. This is what it's

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going to do, and you'll be the good guy guys,

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and you know, so we're also going to guarantee your work.

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I'd never made more than fifty thousand dollars in a year,

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and I'm telling them what we're going to do is

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we're going to start out with fifty thousand dollars month

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in radio and TV advertising. And man, they would they

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were they were on board.

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Speaker 2: They saw what I was doing. They saw that, you know,

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and I told them, this is the worst sales thing

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that you can imagine.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you could lose your money because I don't

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know how many people are going to try to join up.

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You know, I'm just doing my thing here. And they're like, dude,

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if you're if you do this, I want to be there.

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And so we just had our fourth annual ten year

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dinner and there's contract there's contractors at that dinner that

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have been with me. Since I was riding it on

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a legal pad. So it's like they saw it. They said,

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we want to be separated from the bad guys, and

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we believe that you're going to do it. And that

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was just faith on everybody's part.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, the different tiers that you have now, So now

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what what I'm understanding is that you've got a tier

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for the contractors and then you've got a tier for

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the for the actual business, I mean, the homeowners. So

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how can people find out more about those different tiers

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and start promoting you know what what what it is

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that you're bringing forward?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, So I consider this a movement, and

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a movement it requires community, like we were talking about,

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so it takes everybody you know, to be a part

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of this. And so as a homeowner, what I'm asking

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homeowners is, if you know someone that has the integrity

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that I mean can go to bed every single night

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because they in sleep because they know they did the

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right thing. You know that kind of guy. And it

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doesn't have to be a big company. If you know

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someone who has that kind of integrity, we want you

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to refer them. And so if you want a safe

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contractor community in your neighborhood. You could literally be the

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spark that starts it. Wow, it just takes one good contractor.

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We bring that contractor on, that contractor, you know, and

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we do all of our screening first, obviously, but that contractor,

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let's say it's a plumber, knows an air conditioning guy

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that has integrity. That air conditioning guy knows a roofer,

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And next thing you know, you have a nice group

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of people who are saying, I'm going to protect homeowners

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at no matter what the costs. I'd rather lose than

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lose my integrity, you know. And so when they start

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banning together like that, and they start bringing other homeowners

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to the one place they can go, and that's the

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Good Contractors List dot com. So if you're a homeowner,

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go to the Good Contractors List dot com and refer

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your favorite contractor. If you're a contractor that that's hearing this,

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and you are that kind of person that has been

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in business a long time, you've done things right, you've

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worked on your reputation, and you're tired of self promotion.

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Speaker 2: It's time to come together as a collective. And when

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you come together as a collective and you work together,

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you're so much stronger.

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Speaker 3: Then you buy yourself out there trying to find another

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accolade to add to your You know, your your all

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the accolades that you give someone whenever. You know, because

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everybody's doing the same thing, they're saying, this is why

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you should hire me. And if you're part of a

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collective that worked together, you're never going to have to

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do that again.

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Speaker 2: You know, people will come.

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Speaker 3: To the website, they'll find you, and this will be

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a community based lead ecosystem that will just continue to

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grow as more people find out about it. So it's

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it's really the best world for contractors that I can imagine.

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It's the best world for homers I can imagine. And

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so please go to the Good Contractors List dot com

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and play your part in this movement.

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Speaker 1: Well, John Stewart Hill, You've got to come back to

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this show anytime in the future, especially as we build

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up a brand new year, and I want people to

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be motivated to do exactly what it is that you're

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bringing forward to them.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's awesome. I would appreciate that. I appreciate the

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time of you doing me today. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Well, excellent, will you be brilliant Today, Okay, sir, you too.