Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fires Gape cast. It is episode
Speaker 1: ninety nine. We are here. It's January twenty seventh or something.
Speaker 1: I'm Mike Mahardy. Here's always with Dan Riikert. Hello, and
Speaker 1: Mary Kish.
Speaker 2: This is my real voice. Do not be fooled by
Speaker 2: the imitators that people have overused in jokes that are over.
Speaker 3: One year old.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Dan, that soundby was perfect.
Speaker 4: That wasn't on the on the recording. I haven't done
Speaker 4: it on a podcast in a while.
Speaker 2: Authentic, true gluten free Mary, it is real.
Speaker 1: Raw and wait, breebe the opposite of raw.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do people have gluten in them just by nature?
Speaker 1: I got, oh, yeah, I have to gluten. Yeah, check
Speaker 1: out both of my glutens. I don't do voices anymore.
Speaker 1: We discussed yeah, yeah, gluten. So what's up Dan? You
Speaker 1: got Harvard floors in that room?
Speaker 3: Now? Luxury vinyl is I think the technical term.
Speaker 1: Oh and if anybody, Xana, can you preface a disturbing
Speaker 1: noise that people might pick up at some point during
Speaker 1: this episode? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes I don't think about things that might
Speaker 4: be a surprise to people. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I was turning to think, like, what can we
Speaker 4: do to our house? We should do something to our house.
Speaker 4: And me and Bank both had our offices. Uh had
Speaker 4: the carpet torn off and put the vinyl in, and
Speaker 4: she's fine with it. She's not, you know, on a
Speaker 4: recording podcaster, exactly, it looks good, thank you.
Speaker 3: It feels good on my feet.
Speaker 2: It's super important for a professional podcaster to have a
Speaker 2: really nice hardwood floor behind them.
Speaker 4: I did mention it to back Lar and he's like, well,
Speaker 4: that's going to give you an echo. It's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: well here's my thing. In Connecticut. Every fucking up episode
Speaker 4: we did a fire escape, I had hardwood floors, and
Speaker 4: so I don't understand why it would be different.
Speaker 1: This room strikes me as bigger than that.
Speaker 3: I don't I think the other one might have been
Speaker 3: slightly bigger.
Speaker 2: It's also the dimensions, right, like if you're yelling at
Speaker 2: a wall and it bounces off the wall and HiT's
Speaker 2: a hardwood floor. I was told that there was sound
Speaker 2: baffling in your old place that you threw away because
Speaker 2: you were like, don't need this anymore.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's done the way.
Speaker 2: The carpet which you needed literally, and Dan, you know
Speaker 2: this within like five seconds of you saying hello, and
Speaker 2: I'm excited to record this podcast, I said, respectfully, you
Speaker 2: sound like dog shit.
Speaker 4: To be fair, though, that was when the furnace was
Speaker 4: going and it turned off. Now it could turn on again,
Speaker 4: so you might all hear it later on.
Speaker 2: Fully, we'll turn on again.
Speaker 3: It's winter in Minnesota, it's going to be It's only
Speaker 3: any second now.
Speaker 4: It's only been negative thirty negative thirty three around there,
Speaker 4: so it should be fine. And it probably gets warmer
Speaker 4: at night, which is when we're recording.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like a prospector's breathing between is one
Speaker 2: empty tooth slot.
Speaker 3: Like furnace right now? Right now? I sound fine?
Speaker 1: Right, no, you sound fine now, But the furnace does
Speaker 1: it sounds like fran Dresser getting attacked by a vulture.
Speaker 3: You might get the luxury.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a tea pot that you've ignored in
Speaker 2: your basement floor for three months.
Speaker 1: It's improv hour, let's go make it sounds like she's
Speaker 1: Or from Pokemon jacking off.
Speaker 2: Might actually sound like the noise we're trying.
Speaker 4: Shee Or it looks like Scissor. It's a character in
Speaker 4: the Star Wars universe s c I z O r Oh,
Speaker 4: it's like scissor okay, and I could see that, yeah, Or.
Speaker 1: It sounds like when Neo's screaming in the Matrix, when
Speaker 1: the mirror first goes down his throat.
Speaker 3: The Neo wax off.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Well there's no sense in those movies
Speaker 4: that he's said, wait no, haven't turned to have sex
Speaker 4: in one of the sequels.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, like violently or not violent? Sweatily it's sweating
Speaker 1: sexy actually, but no, he like they kind of make
Speaker 1: it look like he's owing when he does the downloads, like, like,
Speaker 1: I know kung fu, make it?
Speaker 4: I mean I would probably ejaculate if I suddenly knew
Speaker 4: all of kung fu.
Speaker 3: Yeah mean yeah, Yeah, that's the first thing to teach
Speaker 3: you in your furnace.
Speaker 2: Sounds like ejaculating because you've learned all of kung fu.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's the first skill you would download if you
Speaker 1: could immediately learn, like master a skill in whatever ten
Speaker 1: seconds it takes.
Speaker 2: All languages would be really cool if you're just go
Speaker 2: like an all language pack would be pretty sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Would that be like Morse code and everything too? Or
Speaker 4: those like expansion packs. Oh okay, d yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: The languages nobody can talk anymore and like don't know
Speaker 2: anything about so you're able to like translate like texts
Speaker 2: that are just gone. Yeah, cipher codes.
Speaker 3: Maybe. I think I would do every martial art before
Speaker 3: I did languages.
Speaker 2: I would do violence over education, be shocked defense.
Speaker 1: I would do something parquet punch. You can learn Spanish
Speaker 1: in a few years.
Speaker 2: You can't learn can't You've learned a punch in four years?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to know all the moves and
Speaker 3: holds and stuff.
Speaker 2: All these things take dedication, patience, and determination, of which
Speaker 2: you have none.
Speaker 1: You're downloading this. That's the point. You don't need one.
Speaker 2: The thing about languages is I assume that it's just
Speaker 2: like knowledge in your head. But when it's like kung fu,
Speaker 2: even if you have the knowledge, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you actually if your body would know. I mean, shot,
Speaker 2: I'm really are you as weak as you are now?
Speaker 4: Yes, But I mean there's a leverage and bodyweight that
Speaker 4: you can utilize. You know, I would know all the
Speaker 4: different chicken wings and Nelson's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you trying to say?
Speaker 1: It? Jiu jitsu happens right here?
Speaker 2: Are you are you as limp as a noodle as
Speaker 2: you are at this moment, or it doesn't. It also
Speaker 2: come with some muscles.
Speaker 4: I did a ten minute peloton upper arm and shoulder
Speaker 4: exercise today, so I think I'm doing fine.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that'll save you in the Oxagon.
Speaker 3: Come on, McGregor, I would download.
Speaker 5: If I downloaded ten minutes to kung fu and I'm
Speaker 5: about to take on this fucking fighter, watch me still weak.
Speaker 2: I've forgotten the other component of.
Speaker 3: I would if I'd been better situation than I am now.
Speaker 2: You would snap your bones.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I that's the thing.
Speaker 4: If I got in a fight right now, I do
Speaker 4: think my knee jerk instinct would be like to do
Speaker 4: like a super kick like wrestling movies. Like I've seen
Speaker 4: so much wrestling, and I think I would be going
Speaker 4: for like the tas mission or a super kick before
Speaker 4: I tried in the actual martial arts move.
Speaker 1: I think a person who can actually fight would just
Speaker 1: punch you, like right in the chin really quickly and
Speaker 1: you get knocked out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be it. I mean, there's no way
Speaker 4: I would have my defenses up. I wouldn't know about
Speaker 4: how I was supposed to do that, it'd be over.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would. If I was like fought in the Civil War,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even use my bayonet. You just see me
Speaker 1: running around the field kicking people in the nuts. What
Speaker 1: if there's like a flag guy, Yeah, the flag guy
Speaker 1: just fall Yeah, Ulysses s Groin. What if, Like, do
Speaker 1: you think they could fully respect him if they saw
Speaker 1: him doing that?
Speaker 3: If you won the war, Yeah, there'd be statues to you.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I mean imagine, Okay, you're at like the victory parade
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And Ulysses S. Grant is riding
Speaker 1: passed on this horse after the Union wins. If you
Speaker 1: had seen that guy just sprinting around the battlefield kicking
Speaker 1: people in the cross, I don't think you'd fully respect him.
Speaker 2: Talking about as long as you win, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you take out a whole Nazi regime
Speaker 2: by just kicking them in the ball, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: This isn't really about any specific war. This is just
Speaker 2: about winning and being on the good side.
Speaker 3: You had guns, though, that's true.
Speaker 1: Before you kick's is like the scissor crock crotch kicking's
Speaker 1: paper and then like a nuke is the rock to
Speaker 1: the gun's scissor. Ah.
Speaker 2: Yes, so in the previous question that somebody wrote in
Speaker 2: the Pokemon evolution goes kicking in the nuts gun nuke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's fair, all effective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should make Christopher Nolan should make an Oppenheimer
Speaker 4: for the first guy that kick someone in the nuts.
Speaker 1: That'd be really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would see that.
Speaker 2: It's just like all of that amazing audio design. But
Speaker 2: it's just a slow motion kick to the groin.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anybody timing it, like can see on their watch
Speaker 1: there's five minutes left and the growing kick hasn't happened yet,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, sloo kicks in, and.
Speaker 2: Then Isaac Newton goes, what have we done?
Speaker 3: And Einstein's in it for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's Newton because
Speaker 2: it's like gravity of the balls. But like I get
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh that makes sense. Yeah, what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's like he's like writing all these like algorithms on
Speaker 2: a chalkboard and he's like, it's the balls, but it's
Speaker 2: too late. We've already learned.
Speaker 4: I think Newton ever drew balls. Yeah, yeah, like for
Speaker 4: fun or do you think it was part of like
Speaker 4: an equation.
Speaker 1: Like with a dick involved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like, did like fourteen year old Isaac Newton
Speaker 4: draw a dick on a chalkboard? Did they have chalkboards
Speaker 4: back then? Did he draw it into sand or however
Speaker 4: they drew back then?
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had chalkboards, right a passage?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I hope that teenagers back then found that
Speaker 4: funny too.
Speaker 2: I don't think that one of the very few joys
Speaker 2: they had back then. You know, they didn't have tele
Speaker 2: and they didn't have video games. You know, back then
Speaker 2: you had some twigs and a berry and you were like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's like two dicks in one ball,
Speaker 2: and you you joked about that, and then you died
Speaker 2: of scoliosis.
Speaker 4: I used to in the middle of the night in college,
Speaker 4: some of the halls would be left open because there
Speaker 4: would be like late night classes, and me and my
Speaker 4: friends like after the bar sometimes would just go in
Speaker 4: and go into every classroom that was unlocked and just
Speaker 4: draw big, big dick and balls on it.
Speaker 1: Is that like with markers or chalk whatever was available.
Speaker 1: Did you deal with permanent marker on the board?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I think we're just trying to
Speaker 3: be rascals who were trying to cause damage.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that would be considered vandalism if you
Speaker 1: did permanent marker on a board at night in a college.
Speaker 2: So I think that's not super cool because now the
Speaker 2: teacher can't.
Speaker 4: Teach if it's permanent. Yeah, I know, they could wipe
Speaker 4: the dick off.
Speaker 2: The ultimate prank is one where all parties laugh. Nobody
Speaker 2: should be like crying in the corner, agreed, that's not
Speaker 2: a good prank. Should be something where everyone can appreciate
Speaker 2: the gag and life can go on as if it
Speaker 2: never happened. Does that mean that makes sense?
Speaker 4: Ranks back then, Yeah, all of mine were pretty temporary
Speaker 4: in college. You know, we're getting a shark mascot suit
Speaker 4: and running through a film class. Stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 4: very filming, it putting a risk show. Yeah, I had
Speaker 4: no fun innocent stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the.
Speaker 2: All the sweet, sweet innocent things.
Speaker 1: Tell tell us about a not victimless prank that you've done,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are some.
Speaker 4: Oh it would have been with like friends that I
Speaker 4: was very close to to where they could Oh, oh,
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: One, what's that?
Speaker 2: In college, we were playing a lot of Mario Kart,
Speaker 2: and one late night we broke into the college greenhouse
Speaker 2: and we stole the bananas from the banana tree and
Speaker 2: then we peeled them and threw them on the floor
Speaker 2: the greenhouse.
Speaker 1: Was it like a nursery for growing those things? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did like a botanist get pissed off.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they were, like, we've been trying to harvest
Speaker 2: these bananas for like three years. They weren't very you know,
Speaker 2: they weren't very big because it's not a good place
Speaker 2: to grow bananas, it's Ohio. And we plucked them all
Speaker 2: and peeled them and were like running around throwing them
Speaker 2: at each other's feet.
Speaker 1: The fun there's pounding on your bedroom door. The next night,
Speaker 1: a swat team of gorillas storms the room wearing helmets
Speaker 1: with that battering ram thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we probably feel you're my punishment is to be
Speaker 2: peeled like a banana, like my skin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems that's a fatality.
Speaker 2: Punishment from ulysses as growing here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was his movie.
Speaker 2: I feel a little guilty that we probably ruined some
Speaker 2: learning opportunities. I'm sure the teacher who who ever really
Speaker 2: cared for that greenhouse was like these little bastards destroyed
Speaker 2: this banana tree that I've been working on. And it
Speaker 2: was not for like of any value. It was like, haha,
Speaker 2: we have peels and we're throwing them at each other.
Speaker 1: That was it. Where'd you go to college? What was
Speaker 1: the professor's name?
Speaker 2: I went to Ohio University.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna look it up, see if I can
Speaker 1: find the professor and tell them.
Speaker 2: I do feel a little bad about it, but I
Speaker 2: also think, like in the grand scheme of things, when
Speaker 2: I say, like we broke in, we didn't break uh,
Speaker 2: you know, like glass or anything. We didn't ruin the place.
Speaker 2: We just got in when we shouldn't have gotten in.
Speaker 2: And you know, ruining some bananas is not a huge crime.
Speaker 2: But that's the one I'm willing to admit to you.
Speaker 4: I guess the one that definitely had a victim with me,
Speaker 4: And I wasn't the only one, but I was kind
Speaker 4: of the ringleader. Was was in the dorms and my
Speaker 4: friend Ben. We got back from a party or something
Speaker 4: and we were all just tanked and Ben passed out
Speaker 4: hard and his lower bunk and his cousin was his roommate,
Speaker 4: and so his cousin, me, couple other friends went in
Speaker 4: and we got a bunch of duct tape and electrical
Speaker 4: tape and stuff, and we like scooted. He was so out, like,
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't even notice we're like scooting the
Speaker 4: whole bunk bed away from the wall, and we're just
Speaker 4: going around and around like fully, duct taping him to
Speaker 4: the bed, you know, putting cigars in his mouth, drawing
Speaker 4: on him in permanent marker, all that shit, and he's just.
Speaker 3: Not waking up. So we all just keep doing shit.
Speaker 4: So we fucking like took all of the pillows and
Speaker 4: blankets and everything, and we went up to the lobby,
Speaker 4: got all the couch cushions, put it between him and
Speaker 4: the lower part of the upper bunk, so he's completely
Speaker 4: sandwiched in there. We put down all the blankets over
Speaker 4: it so it's pitch black, and then we got all
Speaker 4: the chairs and everything from the lobby and filled the
Speaker 4: actual room with it. So even if he gets up,
Speaker 4: gets free of all the tape, he has to dig
Speaker 4: himself out from under all these cushions, find his way
Speaker 4: out from under the blanket, and then the whole room's
Speaker 4: filled with chairs. Anyway, if he couldn't be Chris. Well,
Speaker 4: we didn't think about them. We might have been nineteen
Speaker 4: and very stupid. So we leave and his cousin wasn't
Speaker 4: staying in there. His cousin was standing in a girl's
Speaker 4: room that night, And it turns out one of the
Speaker 4: guys was leaving the next morning to go to work
Speaker 4: and he just heard yelling coming from Ben's room and
Speaker 4: Ben's like help, help, goes in there.
Speaker 3: Ben had woken.
Speaker 4: Up two or three hours earlier, couldn't get out, and
Speaker 4: was super hungover and just was repeatedly peeing his pants.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm not claustrophobic, and is a terrifying
Speaker 1: cast to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, So we all went in.
Speaker 4: We helped him out, We cut him loose and everything,
Speaker 4: and he'd been peeing so much that his I want
Speaker 4: to say, his blanket or his fitted sheet was red.
Speaker 4: And so we took the fitted sheet off and there
Speaker 4: was just a pool of red pea because like the
Speaker 4: die from the thing had mixed with like had just
Speaker 4: been sitting there so long, and so just red pea
Speaker 4: that he'd been laying in. And so that night we
Speaker 4: went out to another party, we came back. I was
Speaker 4: the one who passed out of my bed and he
Speaker 4: put a bunch of super glue in my hair and
Speaker 4: so deserved it. Yeah, yeah, that's why. Well, I mean,
Speaker 4: but I had to like cut my hair like that night.
Speaker 4: So I get up and I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 4: asking people for clippers. I sho, you know, cut my
Speaker 4: head and all that stuff. And uh. Then I met
Speaker 4: him in the lobby and I asked if I could
Speaker 4: punch him in the face and then we would be
Speaker 4: even and call it juice. Yeah, I have this on tape.
Speaker 4: I have the face punch on tape. I have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just ducked him in the face.
Speaker 1: Really, you were already even, you fucking terrorized.
Speaker 2: I mean what he did to you was even.
Speaker 4: He was temporary. My hair was cut. I guess it's
Speaker 4: temporary too, right now?
Speaker 2: Is that from the glue?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: From two thousand and threes And yeah, so I should
Speaker 4: go find him and punch him again.
Speaker 1: I think I think you were even. Yeah, when he
Speaker 1: puts super glue in your hair.
Speaker 4: It was like he knew I was a weak man,
Speaker 4: and so I just got one punch to the chin.
Speaker 4: Got it on tape. It looked pretty weak. He just
Speaker 4: kind of ah, and we shook. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, I would have. I would have freaked
Speaker 1: out if I woke up tied to a bed encased
Speaker 1: in linen's out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Our entire floor was doing that ship like all the time,
Speaker 4: Like if we rememb There's one time, oh god, a
Speaker 4: guy came back from the bars and he was in
Speaker 4: his dorm room having coitus with someone we had met,
Speaker 4: and we took like handfuls of bottle rockets, like whole
Speaker 4: like bundles of them and just lit them and like
Speaker 4: the roommate would like, let us in with the key,
Speaker 4: and we just toss it in and they're just in
Speaker 4: their mid sex and a bunch of bottle rockets start
Speaker 4: going off.
Speaker 1: It's Jesus changer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh no, he thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, we were menaces for sure.
Speaker 2: Did he let you punch him in the face afterwards,
Speaker 2: just to make sure it was even?
Speaker 4: Now, there's no nobody got uh you know, any get
Speaker 4: backs on that one. But yeah, eighth floor McCullum Hall
Speaker 4: two thousand and two, two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and three was a column hall. It was a circus. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now he can only get off if there are fireworks
Speaker 1: in the room.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolute, that was a high. Was chasing the dragon forever.
Speaker 3: Sex with a Roman candle.
Speaker 1: Lit god he empty, he empties one hole from the
Speaker 1: Roman candle.
Speaker 4: Every every thrust one of the reports goes off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a nub because of all the mistakes
Speaker 2: and incidences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our ras really loved us.
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine. I feel like the girls dormitories were
Speaker 2: just so reasonable, Like, yes, we got into like moderate shenanigans,
Speaker 2: but we just were nice people. We just didn't do
Speaker 2: ship like that to each other. Our games were mental.
Speaker 2: We were fighting other wars.
Speaker 4: Sure, ours were very physical and gross and stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're from the era of Jackass, and I think
Speaker 2: all boys at that time and girls were just so
Speaker 2: heavily influenced. And the funniest thing you could do is
Speaker 2: get some one to shit their pants.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I never the shit stuff. That was as much as
Speaker 4: I loved Jackass. That was my line where it's like,
Speaker 4: I remember my friends would be really in the like
Speaker 4: cky and like bambargerra stuff and everything, and they would
Speaker 4: literally be like doing like poop stuff, and we're like
Speaker 4: running at full sprint and pooping.
Speaker 3: I always thought that was that's too gross.
Speaker 4: Like I thought it was funny when like, okay, tastefully
Speaker 4: one of the guys would go into a hardware store
Speaker 4: and poop in one of the toilets. That's fine, you know,
Speaker 4: that's just sitting display. That's tasteful. I don't want Sometimes
Speaker 4: they were pooping on each other's heads and stuff. It's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to see this stuff.
Speaker 2: I also think they were saying something broader about our
Speaker 2: system and like how much things cost so that we
Speaker 2: can just do basic, you know things in our lives. Symbolism, symbolism, symbolism.
Speaker 3: I should have picked up on that social commentary.
Speaker 1: I think to this day my favorite Jackass is when
Speaker 1: they they lock all the doors on the limo open
Speaker 1: the center. It's the funny thing that because it's not
Speaker 1: the bees and the limo, it's the fact that say,
Speaker 1: cord marbles everywhere outside stars that makes it genius.
Speaker 4: That is the extra thing where it's like the bees
Speaker 4: are hilarious objectively, but when they're all eating shit, when
Speaker 4: they think they got out safe, like oh my god.
Speaker 3: I think my one of my favorites might be in
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 4: I think the second one where they acted like some
Speaker 4: of my groupies had like written a note on the
Speaker 4: door to like it was on a big heart and
Speaker 4: it was like but the text kept getting smaller and smaller,
Speaker 4: so their heads said to keep getting closer to the
Speaker 4: and then cartoon ass boxing glove and when we man
Speaker 4: did it and he fell off the chairs just about was.
Speaker 2: A chair there.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's so fucking funny. Those guys are geniuses.
Speaker 4: I met Johnny Knoxville backstage to WrestleMania when I was
Speaker 4: at Devin Dry and it just shook his hand and
Speaker 4: I was like, thank you for everything was cool.
Speaker 3: He was crazy, seemed a little like odd.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that Johnny Knoxville probably is, but like in
Speaker 4: a nice way.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: He's been punched in the head a lot, you know,
Speaker 2: and so like some of it might be the normal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: some of it is probably the normal, Like I am
Speaker 2: a celebrity and it is difficult to inner act with
Speaker 2: normies all the time. And then the other part is
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, he's been concussed so many times.
Speaker 3: He probably more CTE than the wrestlers he was working with.
Speaker 1: I suspect, so yeah, speaking of the CTE in wrestlers,
Speaker 1: I've watched the Mister McMahon documentary. Can you tell you
Speaker 1: can we talk about that? You're not?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Used to have to? Okay, Yeah it
Speaker 1: was really good. I I didn't realize obviously for those
Speaker 1: who haven't seen it on Netflix. Uh, they finished recording,
Speaker 1: or rather, Vince basically stopped coming to the interview sessions
Speaker 1: for a roll because the allegations came out like the
Speaker 1: bad allegations.
Speaker 4: They were recording all those interviews they got with him.
Speaker 4: They were recording in the building I worked in, just
Speaker 4: in like a separate room.
Speaker 3: I've filmed stuff in there before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2: And they got a series out of it. I actually
Speaker 2: haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Really got six part six part documentary on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, there's a lot just about wrestling in general
Speaker 1: that I didn't know. I told him, Man, I was like,
Speaker 1: watch this. I'm gonna pissed Dan off. So I started
Speaker 1: texting Dan like have you heard of these? Have you
Speaker 1: heard of something called the Monday Night Wars? And Dan,
Speaker 1: who kept thumbs downing all of them? What else did
Speaker 1: I say?
Speaker 3: If I had heard of the Montreal screw Job.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of there? You're like you must stop this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like texting someone who's really in the baseball
Speaker 4: and be like, heard of this, babe, Ruth?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or if you just started learning Warhammer or
Speaker 1: wine and texting me about have you have you had
Speaker 1: a cap Frank before. It's good though.
Speaker 3: You guys are Vince fans now?
Speaker 1: No, your biggest fans not doing that one the family episode,
Speaker 1: just Amanda, Amanda's the Family one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I started to feel bad for Shane and that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because James also completely nuts. Just to be clear, and
Speaker 4: if they documentary Sea.
Speaker 1: Kind of well adjusted in the documentary, just like overlooked
Speaker 1: unloved son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's insane.
Speaker 4: He's definitely not a monster on the level of his
Speaker 4: father or anything like that, but he's I'd imagine any
Speaker 4: child of that man ever being remotely saying. Stephanie is
Speaker 4: you know, she's definitely made some major mistakes and stuff
Speaker 4: on air and off, but like she was pretty beloved
Speaker 4: at the company, like she she was. I've worked with
Speaker 4: there like once or twice and she was very very nice.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Shane's nuts and Vince is a monster.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also had never seen the origins and how Big
Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan was. I mean, I knew he was this
Speaker 1: pop culture icon. I knew who he was, but I
Speaker 1: didn't really know how it started. I was around for
Speaker 1: when the Rock was coming up because I had friends
Speaker 1: who were really into the Rock and like Goldberg in
Speaker 1: that era.
Speaker 2: But it cool they got the Rock for these interviews.
Speaker 2: That's quite the guest.
Speaker 1: His was so fucking like polished though, like he just
Speaker 1: looked at the cameras like Vince would only ever do
Speaker 1: this and like stop being a movie star for a second, give.
Speaker 4: All points out, especially now that he's on the board
Speaker 4: of the company, and like even before that, he was
Speaker 4: just the most just like not going to say anything controversial,
Speaker 4: like all those guys still like seeing a rock, all
Speaker 4: those guys still hold Vinced in like very high regard,
Speaker 4: and it's just, yeah, that's rough.
Speaker 1: There was too little Rick Flair, I will say, matro Man.
Speaker 1: They really didn't. I also didn't realize that ultimate warrior,
Speaker 1: like his heart wasn't really in things. He was just
Speaker 1: the crowd liked him for a while.
Speaker 3: I didn't know, but he didn't care about the business.
Speaker 3: No one liked working with him. He was very selfish.
Speaker 3: He wasn't saying yeah, no one liked him.
Speaker 4: Hogan was a weird one because like I started watching
Speaker 4: in ninety three, which is right after Hogan left. So
Speaker 4: like I feel like most guys my age, like forty
Speaker 4: and above, they all go back, Oh Hogan, Hogan, he
Speaker 4: was my thing, and like he wasn't like by the
Speaker 4: time I was aware of him, it was like when
Speaker 4: he came to WCW and turned into a bad guy,
Speaker 4: and so like I missed that whole, like whole Camania era.
Speaker 4: And I don't think I certainly think I would hate
Speaker 4: him by this point, even if I grew up with
Speaker 4: him and his stuff. But like it is pretty awesome
Speaker 4: seeing everyone just knows that he's a real piece of shit.
Speaker 4: And like, I don't know if you saw he got
Speaker 4: like boot out of the building on the raw on Netflix.
Speaker 2: He did see that. People were talking about it on
Speaker 2: social media. It's just like this big turning point of
Speaker 2: like you are it wasn't normal, like you're a heel boo.
Speaker 2: It was like we don't want you here boo.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, and he's not a heel.
Speaker 4: He was brought out to be, oh, the legendary Jo
Speaker 4: Cogan and stuff, and everyone's like, no, fuck you, we
Speaker 4: hate you.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't just like.
Speaker 4: A Trump thing, because you know, he came out and
Speaker 4: he's done a bunch of Trump stuff and everything. Now
Speaker 4: he's very loud and proud about that, because like they
Speaker 4: had the Undertaker on the same show, who was extremely trumpy,
Speaker 4: and people cheered the Undertaker. It's Hogan is just a
Speaker 4: shitty person in every possible way you can be shitty,
Speaker 4: Like I don't trust anyone who has like kind words
Speaker 4: to say about him as a person.
Speaker 1: You know, I also really enjoyed, and I don't bear
Speaker 1: in mind, I don't I have not looked farther into
Speaker 1: a lot of these people. There's probably many of them
Speaker 1: have done shitty things I'm not aware of. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the interviews that they did with like Sean Michaels because
Speaker 1: he was pretty honest. I'm sure he's done fucked up stuff.
Speaker 1: All these people have the dynamic between like Eric Bischoff,
Speaker 1: Bishoff am I saying that right? Has he done shitty
Speaker 1: stuff too?
Speaker 4: I mean, he's definitely someone who people would I think
Speaker 4: most of our listeners would not agree with his politics
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's like a monster or anything. He's
Speaker 4: always nice to work with.
Speaker 1: In terms of the documentary, those are the interviews that
Speaker 1: at least they were actually like talk like being giving
Speaker 1: interesting interviews, whereas the Rock was just like looking into
Speaker 1: the camera like just over like you know, not what's
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for? Kind of just like airbrushed
Speaker 1: and really.
Speaker 3: A press junket for a movie.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like the most like you know, soft, uh,
Speaker 4: and it's just he is just a corporate bullet point
Speaker 4: at this point. He's incredibly talented, but you're not gonna
Speaker 4: get anything real out of that guy.
Speaker 1: It was also crazy to hear when they started first
Speaker 1: start digging into how incredibly misogynistic and abusive everything was
Speaker 1: toward women. Tony Atlas was just like, oh, we were
Speaker 1: terrible to women back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, error, like it's just withoutout even like.
Speaker 1: Off button up shirt tucked in.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, but every single era of wrestling
Speaker 4: has had plenty of horrible people and horrible situations like that.
Speaker 3: It has gotten much much better.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Tony Atlas in that era and everything you remember,
Speaker 4: like Tony Atliss in that documentary talking about Pat Patterson,
Speaker 4: you know, he grabbed my Pecker. That's why I didn't
Speaker 4: like him. And then it's like, why didn't you tell
Speaker 4: anyone's like what what am I gonna do? Go to Vince,
Speaker 4: Like that's not gonna fucking yeah, Vince's buddy, like he's
Speaker 4: not gonna punish in and like he'll get fired, you know,
Speaker 4: the wrestler. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it is much better now.
Speaker 4: It is far from perfect, but uh, it's it's been
Speaker 4: a fascinating industry now.
Speaker 2: You can't just grab them by their dick and balls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you were Joey Ryan who that was one
Speaker 4: of his main moves for many many years and got
Speaker 4: him famous, but then it turned out he was actually
Speaker 4: a giant sex pest and got roundly canceled.
Speaker 1: H It's just like Vince, like his ring person in
Speaker 1: ring persona reflects who he really is.
Speaker 4: It's always crazy when like, yeah, like the real Vince
Speaker 4: is way worse.
Speaker 2: Could have predicted, Yeah, that the sex pest wrestler was
Speaker 2: a sex pest in real life.
Speaker 3: We thought it was a cheeky and ironic, like, nope,
Speaker 3: he's just a giant xist.
Speaker 1: The guy who showed up at his trial wearing a
Speaker 1: neck brace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy who kept making out with his mistresses
Speaker 4: in front of his wife on camera. Oh turned out
Speaker 4: he actually had many, many extramarital affairs and much worse.
Speaker 1: Oh so, shit Dan, Actually for people listening in for
Speaker 1: Dan if you're not familiar, that was actually for it's
Speaker 1: called for shoot. It's when it's not technically real. It's
Speaker 1: part of a storyline.
Speaker 3: Oh oh so it's like, Okay, it's like a real
Speaker 3: thing that happened. Is that a work?
Speaker 1: Actually I'm making fun of you, but is that a work?
Speaker 3: The shoot? Shoot is real? Work is fake?
Speaker 1: Gotcha? So it was a work, Well, we'll.
Speaker 3: Talk to work shoot If it's yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later. You can text me to
Speaker 1: any question.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 2: I would shoot be real and work be fake.
Speaker 1: I don't get shoot.
Speaker 4: People that don't watch wressing have trouble with that, and
Speaker 4: I don't really understand why, because a shoot for.
Speaker 1: Shoot, like a video shoot is sounds shoots.
Speaker 4: No, it has nothing to do with that though where
Speaker 4: I come from, it's like straight shooting versus like it's
Speaker 4: a work.
Speaker 3: Like if something is.
Speaker 1: I get the work, not the shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, oh here I'm gonna shoot with you. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm gona shotraight with you, you know.
Speaker 1: Shoot.
Speaker 2: But the other one is like it's work like it's work,
Speaker 2: it's my job, as opposed to it's just a shoot.
Speaker 4: It's more not real a work. Not it's work like
Speaker 4: a job. It's more like it's a work. Like let's
Speaker 4: say it all comes from Carney stuff. So let's say
Speaker 4: a carnival booth was like, it's a work if the
Speaker 4: ring toss thing, if the rings only go over the
Speaker 4: shitty prizes, you know, like, oh right, it's a gimmick.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's that. That's where that comes from.
Speaker 2: Is all your terminology come from Carney's.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of mine comes from wrestling, which
Speaker 3: comes from Carney.
Speaker 1: Yeah you talk, Yeah, I use Mark now.
Speaker 3: And that comes from carnival stuff because like, let's say.
Speaker 1: Pick someone from the audience out right you're telling them, let's.
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, let's say it's a fella and his lady
Speaker 4: friend and they're walking down the little minigame section of
Speaker 4: the carnival, and it's clear the guy wants to win
Speaker 4: a big teddy bear for his girl. Basically they will
Speaker 4: have a guy go out there back.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking like the thirties, forties whatever.
Speaker 4: Somebody go out there with a little piece of charcoal
Speaker 4: and mark like the guy's little coat. And then that
Speaker 4: way all the other carnival barkers could see the mark
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, here's an easy marked. Like hey,
Speaker 4: I follow, you want to win this for your carol,
Speaker 4: come over here and know that the guy's just going
Speaker 4: to keep spending money because he has the mark on it.
Speaker 3: So he's a mark.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so's he's vulnerable, he's gullible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, easy marks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Is that just because wrestling evolved out of
Speaker 1: like traveling carnival stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it used to be a strong man thing.
Speaker 3: So you started at carnivals be like.
Speaker 4: Ah, who can beat who can beat the strongest man
Speaker 4: of the world. He'll take anybody in this crowd. Who
Speaker 4: in this crowd, and like they would have a plant
Speaker 4: in the crowd, which a plant is still a term
Speaker 4: used in wrestling, and so the plant would be in
Speaker 4: the carnival too, and he would just be like an
Speaker 4: everyman and they would call the plant up to fight
Speaker 4: the guy and everything, and it was a work. So
Speaker 4: you know, whatever whoever they wanted to win, that would
Speaker 4: win it.
Speaker 1: It's like in The Prestige when they pick they got
Speaker 1: the plant? Is it Hugh Jackman or whatever you call
Speaker 1: him out of the audience and he's supposed to Christian
Speaker 1: Bale is supposed to catch the bullet, and then Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman actually loads a real bullet to shoot him because
Speaker 1: he because he blames him for kill him his Well, have.
Speaker 3: You guys seen The Prestige like in college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time. And it came out during
Speaker 2: that other movie that was also about the same time,
Speaker 2: and I got I got them confused. The Illusionist was
Speaker 2: like about a guy and his lover and I think
Speaker 2: he wanted to run away with her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jessica, it was a deep impact volcano situation.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry. I mix it up.
Speaker 4: It's deep impact armageddon and it was volcano Dante's peak.
Speaker 1: Friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I understand where you are now,
Speaker 2: your maternal animal crossing horizon exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, but yeah, though the documentary
Speaker 1: is good and now we're watching I have never seen
Speaker 1: I never watched the Queen's Gambit during cod Oh.
Speaker 2: Really, that's so good. I'm glad you're gonna get to
Speaker 2: enjoy it. It kind of like skyrocketed Anya Taylor Joy's career,
Speaker 2: and I think it's warranted because she really owned that role.
Speaker 1: She's really good. What else have I seen her in? Oh?
Speaker 1: I seen the Witch? Was the Witch before the Witch
Speaker 1: would have been before that. That's the first thing I
Speaker 1: saw her.
Speaker 2: She's a baby's teenage.
Speaker 4: The Menu and Furiosa, I think are the only things
Speaker 4: I've seen her in Dane briefly right, Dune two she
Speaker 4: was in briefly.
Speaker 1: Right, I still haven't seen that. She was in last
Speaker 1: Night and so yes, oh right, uh.
Speaker 2: Last and everything Now she's great.
Speaker 3: She's big. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Last night, Bunk and I watched Late Night with the
Speaker 4: Devil watch that I didn't. Neither of us loved it.
Speaker 1: Most was on my flight from LA recently.
Speaker 3: Oh that he's really good. Like the performances are good.
Speaker 4: It's just like the whole thing is like it's trying
Speaker 4: to do this like Blair Witch found footage type thing.
Speaker 4: But it was bugging me because I it's set in
Speaker 4: like the late seventies late night shows and that's a
Speaker 4: very specific look and like I feel like they made
Speaker 4: it four by three which would have been the aspect
Speaker 4: ratio back then. But just the cameras look too good,
Speaker 4: and just the way the cameras moved and stuff, it
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I was actually watching, Like it seems
Speaker 4: like they wanted it to look authentic, but it just
Speaker 4: looked a little too polished to actually be like a
Speaker 4: seventies found footage thing, So that kind of took me
Speaker 4: out of it.
Speaker 2: I can see that criticism. I think it it had
Speaker 2: brilliant ideas, and it is an indie, Like it's definitely
Speaker 2: like an independent film, so we have to kind of
Speaker 2: take into context, Like I think they had visions of grandeur,
Speaker 2: but at some point you can kind of just tell
Speaker 2: they didn't maybe have the budget that they wanted to
Speaker 2: do everything with it. But it's a brilliant idea. I
Speaker 2: think it's such a good idea, and I just don't
Speaker 2: think it's executed the way I would have liked it.
Speaker 3: I agree the.
Speaker 4: Concept is super duper strong, but yeah, like some of
Speaker 4: the checks they do are not great. I think there's
Speaker 4: some controversy because they used AI art for some of
Speaker 4: the like intertitial logos and stuff of the TV show.
Speaker 2: I don't know there was some like AI anger about that,
Speaker 2: but that's to me. I don't want to like get
Speaker 2: sue into that detail. For me, I was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: is the movie good? And the movie is like, there's
Speaker 2: some misses. For me, it is entertaining. Like if someone
Speaker 2: was like, it's Spoop Tober season, I want a quick scare.
Speaker 2: It's free on some service, I would be like, yes,
Speaker 2: watch it. I probably wouldn't like recommend paying twenty bucks
Speaker 2: to rent it, but I think it's I thought it
Speaker 2: was like decent watch for an evening, but I also
Speaker 2: found it disappointing. Now, if you like authentic camera work,
Speaker 2: have you seen The Holdovers.
Speaker 3: That's one of the Paul Jimani you right, yes, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not a horror movie. The Holdovers is one of the
Speaker 2: most phenomenal films made in recent years in my opinion,
Speaker 2: and it is made with authentic film cameras from that time.
Speaker 2: All of the cameras in it are like seventies cameras,
Speaker 2: and you can tell it looks fucking great. It ain't
Speaker 2: a filter. They filmed it on like that original film,
Speaker 2: and it looks awesome.
Speaker 1: Soundtrack, the cars, the clothing like it. It's awesome, and
Speaker 1: it's Tech. It's set during Christmas, so we've actually like
Speaker 1: started watching it yearly on Christmas. It's become autradition. Awesome.
Speaker 3: I've heard great.
Speaker 2: Things and awesome, Dude, it's pretty All the performances are good.
Speaker 1: It gets heavy, but you know it's earned. It's really good.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know what else that director has made is Sideways,
Speaker 1: a movie about wine, Oh Frado.
Speaker 2: He loves Paul Giamatti. He's a really good actor. And
Speaker 2: in this one, I feel like, at least in Sideways,
Speaker 2: like they're like you're like a young buck who's like
Speaker 2: out to score and like you get yourself into some trouble.
Speaker 2: In this one, they're like you're like a decrepit, ugly
Speaker 2: teacher that no one loves. And he's like he's got
Speaker 2: this like weird eye.
Speaker 1: Everyone hates him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like, all right, that's me. Like he's
Speaker 2: really earned this role.
Speaker 3: Have you heard the story about him with Planet of
Speaker 3: the Apes?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: But I mean, oh my god, so I already loved him,
Speaker 4: and then I've read this anecdote recently, so basically remember
Speaker 4: the like two thousand and one Marky mark uh Planet,
Speaker 4: the Tim Burton one that was fucking terrible yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So Jimmati's in it and he plays an ape, and
Speaker 4: I need to find this actual quiot because basically his
Speaker 4: agent really wanted Okay, this is a quote from Paul Gimonti.
Speaker 3: I was obsessed with the plan.
Speaker 4: Of the Apes movies as a kid, so the notion
Speaker 4: that I could be in one of those was mind
Speaker 4: blowing to me. My agents were like, don't you think
Speaker 4: you should play a human so they can see your face?
Speaker 4: And I was like, if you tell them I want
Speaker 4: to play a human in this, I will fucking kill
Speaker 4: all of you. I'm going to play an ape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's dedicated. I love that guy knows what he
Speaker 1: wants and he runs straight at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that real stern opinion to be an ape.
Speaker 4: Last week, you know what we do our Tuesday movie nights.
Speaker 4: Last week, Mary, we did the Substance.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested. I'm very invested in how you fucking
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it since I saw it.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 4: It's a very subtle movie, and I understood all of
Speaker 4: the metaphors and symbolism.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, what am I trying to say here?
Speaker 2: Lets you know its point. I mean, it is Hammer's
Speaker 2: home all of those points. Towards the last I don't know,
Speaker 2: five minutes, maybe ten minutes, you're like, what are we
Speaker 2: doing here anymore?
Speaker 4: The end was fucking incredible, and what they waste no
Speaker 4: time and like the whole concept this isn't a spoiler,
Speaker 4: because this is the concept of the movie, is like
Speaker 4: you take this substance and it makes like a younger
Speaker 4: version of you, and like they don't waste a single
Speaker 4: frame of that movie being.
Speaker 3: Like, well here's how it works. They're just like, here
Speaker 3: it is. Do you want to take it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Now you're young? You know.
Speaker 2: They never even discussed payment, which I found really interesting
Speaker 2: about this film. Yeah, there's no exchange. At no point
Speaker 2: does she sign a contract I think, or like is
Speaker 2: there like me talk, literally no information because this movie
Speaker 2: they like decided early on they were like, well we
Speaker 2: don't give a shit about any of that. They don't
Speaker 2: need to. They cut out all the middlemen. There's no
Speaker 2: middleman in this. It's just straight up like this is
Speaker 2: what I want. I want everyone to know that this
Speaker 2: is the only thing I care about. And then like
Speaker 2: the implications of that, and then I would say, just
Speaker 2: a complete slow burned downfall of everybody involved. It is
Speaker 2: a horrible visual to wad.
Speaker 4: There's some horrible like Dennis Quaid his character is. This
Speaker 4: is how subtle the movie is. He's a super sleazy,
Speaker 4: misogynistic film executive named Harvey.
Speaker 3: That's how subtle this movie My name is Honestly.
Speaker 2: I mean he kind of has a McMahon look to him.
Speaker 3: I had that thought many times.
Speaker 2: Yes, his very first shot and this is nothing is
Speaker 2: an accident in this but his very first introduction is
Speaker 2: him pissing in a urinal with a fish eye lens
Speaker 2: and his face is like in the fucking lens while
Speaker 2: he's pissing, and he's just like, she's too old, nobody
Speaker 2: wants to fuck her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so gross. And then like he's ah and
Speaker 3: he's talking to.
Speaker 4: Her and he's just like eating all this shrimp and
Speaker 4: it's super close up on his mouth. It is the
Speaker 4: least this movie is a sledgehammer. It is fucking awesome. Though,
Speaker 4: Like Mary, I was with you the whole time. I
Speaker 4: remember like in the middle you talked about how like
Speaker 4: it kind of goes up and down in terms of
Speaker 4: like it's so gratuitous.
Speaker 3: In the middle, its sobody's.
Speaker 4: Like there's Margaret Qualley's ass, just like over and over
Speaker 4: and over again, and then it's like by the end,
Speaker 4: it's just like all that like gratuitous like ooh butts
Speaker 4: and boobs.
Speaker 3: By the end, it's like, oh God, what are we
Speaker 3: doing here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember saying when I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I was pitching this to you, but like
Speaker 2: my reaction to it was, I love this film. This
Speaker 2: is so interesting. I hate this film. They have lost
Speaker 2: the plot. Oh I love this film. They played me
Speaker 2: like a fiddle and they knew me very well, and
Speaker 2: I was just like wondering, is that your ride as well?
Speaker 2: Where Like at some point actually was like I literally
Speaker 2: said out loud, I don't like this movie, and then
Speaker 2: by the end I changed my mind.
Speaker 4: I think it is all earned because it's like it
Speaker 4: is so cartoonish, like when Margaret quality takes over again.
Speaker 3: No big spoilers here anything, but you know, it's like
Speaker 3: a workout sha.
Speaker 4: The hot one, yeah, like Demi Moore was like an
Speaker 4: aging yeah, like Jane Fonda style workout video thing. And
Speaker 4: it's so funny because its supposed to be this workout video,
Speaker 4: but every single move that Margaret Poley is doing is
Speaker 4: like tits and camera tits and camera squat squat squat,
Speaker 4: and it's just it's like it is the it's so
Speaker 4: so gratuitous that it's intentional, and but that is just
Speaker 4: kind of the point of the movie and where it
Speaker 4: goes and everything. So yeah, yeah, I felt like it
Speaker 4: was earned.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, I had. I had
Speaker 2: a real visceral reaction to that film, and I think
Speaker 2: they wanted you to write like they really wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure you ya got it. But I believe to
Speaker 2: me more one uh first award for her acting in that,
Speaker 2: and I also thought that was quite earned because I
Speaker 2: think that's a very difficult role to accept as an
Speaker 2: aging actress, which is like, here's a role in which
Speaker 2: you're you're an aging actress. Aren't you perfect for this
Speaker 2: role of an aging actress that will give up anything
Speaker 2: to look a little younger, And then we're gonna have
Speaker 2: this hot actress with a fat ass be you and
Speaker 2: have all the sex scenes or like all the hot
Speaker 2: scenes with her ass. But when we want to show
Speaker 2: someone who's like destroying themselves mentally and physically and is old,
Speaker 2: it's you also full nudity you in and she was
Speaker 2: like sure, and she did it, and I just think
Speaker 2: she really own it well.
Speaker 4: Her speech at the Golden Globes is really good because
Speaker 4: it kind of touched on all that stuff about being
Speaker 4: like an aging actress in Hollywood and like you know,
Speaker 4: her agents and people saying like, hey, you're not going
Speaker 4: to get these roles anymore, but like you ever heard
Speaker 4: a win for this, and it's super deserved.
Speaker 3: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: As soon as you turn thirty six, your options are
Speaker 2: to be Jim Carrey's wife, or like the dead mother
Speaker 2: of someone who wants to like get revenge. That's it,
Speaker 2: like you're or like a really old uh grandma in
Speaker 2: the you know who's like in the crowd clapping yeah,
Speaker 2: because the prince has done something good.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Those are your three options.
Speaker 4: There was a good uh Niki Glazier at a joke
Speaker 4: at the Golden Globes about how like, oh, when you
Speaker 4: turned you know, fifty, as a woman in Hollywood, you're
Speaker 4: pretty much on the way out. If you're if you're
Speaker 4: if you're a man and you're fifty, congrats you're about
Speaker 4: to play Sidney Sweeney's boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's true. I mean it's ridiculous, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: they're all doing great and like good for these old men,
Speaker 2: the cloonies, the pits, they're all killing it. But I
Speaker 2: think like they're is something to be said. It is
Speaker 2: way younger than fifty. That joke is silly, Like literally
Speaker 2: as soon as you twear and I turn, I want
Speaker 2: to say, like thirty seven, thirty eight. As a woman,
Speaker 2: they're just like, you get nothing except for mom options
Speaker 2: and your parts will be very flat.
Speaker 4: I saw this Demi Moore kind of comeback story a
Speaker 4: lot like Mickey Rourke because he had been gone for
Speaker 4: a long time and he came back for the wrestler,
Speaker 4: which was also just like, hey, you're going to play
Speaker 4: this like beat up piece of meat, just this old loser,
Speaker 4: you know, who's just an idiot and it's a idiot's
Speaker 4: maybe not the word, but you know. It's a similar
Speaker 4: thing where it's this big actor that had disappeared for
Speaker 4: like a while and then comes back with this like
Speaker 4: very well regarded role.
Speaker 3: Like I love seeing that stuff.
Speaker 1: Darren Aronofski did that again with Brendan Fraser with a whale.
Speaker 1: Oh right, I don't know that there's any parallel between
Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser and the guy's life in the Whale. I
Speaker 1: have not seen that movie. I have no intention either.
Speaker 2: My problem with seeing something like that is that it's
Speaker 2: so heavy, and I usually watch I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: can't watch a heavy movie. I think Kheimer is heavy,
Speaker 2: and I just loved that film. I think there's something
Speaker 2: about watching like a character suffer for two hours for
Speaker 2: just being a shitty person.
Speaker 1: I read a lot, but it's just like, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like Aeronofski's doing anything besides just pitying the character
Speaker 1: the whole time. So what's the point? I don't know,
Speaker 1: so I gotta I don't know. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch it. Eric Darren Aronofsky's movies, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to either hate or love them. I
Speaker 1: love Black Swan, I love The Wrestler.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't watch it again. I wouldn't watch Black
Speaker 2: Swan again. Like that movie was exhausting to get through.
Speaker 4: I think I would watch it again because I was
Speaker 4: surprised with the rest of who owns.
Speaker 2: The Swan on DVD? Who owns a DVD?
Speaker 4: But like who owns I have ba on four K
Speaker 4: and The Wrestler, well the Restaurant Blu Ray Yeah, No,
Speaker 4: I mean, like, The Wrestler is a fucking depressing ass movie.
Speaker 4: But I hadn't seen it in a few years, and
Speaker 4: John Carson hadn't seen it, so he came over and
Speaker 4: we both watched it and we're like, oh, that's a
Speaker 4: five out of five, fucking like, that's one of my
Speaker 4: few five out of five's letterbox.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was in theaters and I was working in the
Speaker 1: theater and I remember seeing that. I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: that was amazing. And then I talked to all my
Speaker 1: friends like it fucking sucked. I was like, what we
Speaker 1: were young, I guess, so I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Spoilers for The Wrestler, which came out in two thousand
Speaker 4: and seven. If anybody wants to mute now, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like we're allowed to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's past. So I'm I'm always up for.
Speaker 3: I've heard yes, yes, oh that's right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah she is movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm think, oh,
Speaker 3: yeah she was.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she had twenty three minutes in the seventeen
Speaker 1: seconds of screen time.
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, Yeah, it's something around there.
Speaker 3: He might be a double tention a second off.
Speaker 1: I think she snip slips that, like.
Speaker 3: You must be thinking of someone else. You're thinking of Mick.
Speaker 4: Mickey was wearing that mesh Yeah, Mickey was wearing that
Speaker 4: mesh top thing.
Speaker 3: I remember that. That must have been Mickey I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Was I gonna say, oh yeah? The spoilers for The Wrestler,
Speaker 3: I uh.
Speaker 4: I watched the movie and I loved it, and it
Speaker 4: wasn't until, like I swear, twelve years later or something,
Speaker 4: someone's like, oh yeah, like when he dies at the end,
Speaker 4: and I was like, what are you talking about it? Like, hey,
Speaker 4: dies at the end of that movie, isn't it doesn't
Speaker 4: he goes out, he just has his finishing move and
Speaker 4: it goes to black. I'm like, yeah, that's he died
Speaker 4: doing it. And he died in the ring like I
Speaker 4: did not under I just thought it was this triumphant
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna do my move and he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: on top of the world again, and then credits. I
Speaker 4: thought like, oh, good for him, and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 4: he died, which also, I I don't want to just
Speaker 4: say names of movies where people die at the end.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't say it now, but several.
Speaker 4: Movies the main character has died at the end and
Speaker 4: I haven't realized it.
Speaker 1: Well, fuck now I have to. I was about to
Speaker 1: talk about another recent movie I saw, and now it's
Speaker 1: the spoilers because I can't bring it up now.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, everyone mute.
Speaker 4: If you were worried about spoilers for any movie, that
Speaker 4: is ridiculous. Ill Okay, this one was a sci fi
Speaker 4: movie from the late twenty tens. If you're worried about
Speaker 4: a spoiler for that, all right, everyone's muted. What here
Speaker 4: we go, Blade Runner twenty forty nine. I didn't realize
Speaker 4: Ryan Gosling died.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought he was just.
Speaker 4: Like waiting for Harrison Ford and he just laid down
Speaker 4: on the thing. It was like, it's that's nice and.
Speaker 1: Sorry dead the snow bleeding out?
Speaker 2: Yet what about the end of the thing.
Speaker 4: The end of the thing recently? Right, I was watching
Speaker 4: for the breath because you said.
Speaker 2: That man, come on this journey with me, Michael, we
Speaker 2: stop it. Stop being that way.
Speaker 1: No, what you know? Both they're both still conscious, talking
Speaker 1: to each other at the end.
Speaker 2: The dead they're dying thing, Yes, but they're going to die.
Speaker 1: Sure you're not die? Yeah, yeah, for sure, they're not
Speaker 1: getting out of there. Yeah, definitely. I also watched the
Speaker 1: character none of the characters die at the end for Challengers.
Speaker 3: Luca Guandino soundtrack for that when I'm running. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good soundtrack. Trender resor atticists Ross
Speaker 1: who do every fucking soundtrack now. So Luca Guanino, who
Speaker 1: I love, did two movies last year. He did Challengers
Speaker 1: and now I have the screener from Writers Guild for Queer,
Speaker 1: but we have not watched it yet.
Speaker 3: Challenging nice, were nice working on netflex of your screeners.
Speaker 3: Good good work, So you can.
Speaker 1: I think anybody can sign up for the Writer's Guild
Speaker 1: and get a screener if you want. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I should have as.
Speaker 3: Part of the Writers Guild, as I have access.
Speaker 1: To my every person in our profession can easily sign up.
Speaker 3: I'm not I bet this guy knows about symbolism. I
Speaker 3: don't know what the Writer's Guild is.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what I can do?
Speaker 3: I'm not a writer.
Speaker 1: It's a very power like, very important union in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry.
Speaker 3: What do I get out of this?
Speaker 1: Dan, What do you think that whole strike about was
Speaker 1: about like several years ago.
Speaker 4: No, I know about the AI and the actors, and
Speaker 4: I fully understand that, and yes, it's good they did
Speaker 4: that about that a lot.
Speaker 3: But like I write about Donkey Kong, like I know.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, screener aside. I haven't watched Queer yet, but
Speaker 1: I think I liked what. I want to get on
Speaker 1: this list.
Speaker 3: Now tell me how I get on this list. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you this guilder.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you after it's it's you say it
Speaker 1: like it's a fucking fable faction that you can.
Speaker 2: You don't even know what it is, and you want
Speaker 2: to be honest.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you get free stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's for I mean, it's all water marked
Speaker 1: and it's all through like specific apps.
Speaker 3: It's only watch I have that with Netflix and stuff.
Speaker 3: I get screeners for that.
Speaker 1: But they'll often they'll give you a code for a
Speaker 1: specific streaming platform and you'll do that. It's not you
Speaker 1: just said you had it.
Speaker 4: No, I when we did, when we and Bank did
Speaker 4: the Paint in the Stream podcast, we got some cop
Speaker 4: some of them we still have, so we get early
Speaker 4: Netflix stuff with embargoes and all that, and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, challenges are good. Oh I finally saw I saw
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, I liked it a whole bunch. It's good.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it
Speaker 2: three stars. I was. I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: VI's walking the really quiet shot after the village when
Speaker 1: he's walking toward the castle and that empty carriage comes
Speaker 1: up to grab him. But the shot before that, like
Speaker 1: in the dark in the woods, one of the most
Speaker 1: gorgeous shots I can remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's several, like very stunning. There's a I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be very careful how I ward this, but there is
Speaker 2: a shot where a family is in danger and when
Speaker 2: they show what happens to everybody. I think they do
Speaker 2: it in a really clean, crisp and brutal way, but
Speaker 2: like I feel like there's just it's very desaturated and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of use of silhouettes and shadows throughout
Speaker 2: it thematically, and so I think the way they do it,
Speaker 2: it's brutal, and they don't shy away from really vivid
Speaker 2: violence of like what vampires are, which is like, they're
Speaker 2: fucking monsters, right. I personally emma hater and did not
Speaker 2: care for Lily Depp's performance. And there was like this
Speaker 2: moment where she was like yelling at her partner or whatever.
Speaker 2: They're having a little spat, and she was backing up
Speaker 2: and there was like a bookcase behind her, and I
Speaker 2: literally said to my person sitting next to me, She's
Speaker 2: she's gonna push over that bookcase, and she was just like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm very upset about She turns around and
Speaker 2: pushes down the bookcase. It was just like, how did
Speaker 2: how did no one in this room when she was
Speaker 2: doing that performance be like, can you make it look
Speaker 2: a little less likely that you are about to throw
Speaker 2: that bookcase down?
Speaker 3: Been distracted by her? I wouldn't distract.
Speaker 4: But I also don't remember her being like, if I'm
Speaker 4: thinking performance, I'm defoe in that one was probably confusing.
Speaker 2: Was that poor casting? Because like this is controversial, but
Speaker 2: everyone in the theater was laughing at every.
Speaker 3: Time in a different movie, it doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Lighthouse the Guys, uh Robert Egger's
Speaker 1: previous movie or before the Viking? Yes, And that's like
Speaker 1: all he's doing these days, is these like coutpass psychoah.
Speaker 2: Just a little psycho and the comic relief.
Speaker 1: In the movie. Of course, he's supposed to be funny.
Speaker 5: Confused, I was a bit confus he's so funny and
Speaker 5: all these people are dying.
Speaker 1: There's a scene where it's like, uh, count Oorlock, Dracula,
Speaker 1: this is doing this thing from a distance and it's
Speaker 1: awful and horrific, and then it just cut and it's
Speaker 1: like crazy loud, soaring music. Then it cuts back to
Speaker 1: Leo in the room. He's like, so the count of that,
Speaker 1: Like it's he's supposed to be funny, Like I took
Speaker 1: him as the comic relief, which that movie needs it
Speaker 1: because it's grim the whole time.
Speaker 2: A little off then sure, I think, like what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is exactly that, Like I welcome a William Dafoe
Speaker 2: in my film. I'm not saying I want him there.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like something really stressful would happen, and
Speaker 2: without like a break, without like a little bit of
Speaker 2: a gap, they would just cut to his fucking weird ass,
Speaker 2: grimy ass, fallen ass face and he would say something
Speaker 2: in the weirdest accent and I was laughing, and I
Speaker 2: was just I was just like, are you sure that's
Speaker 2: what you wanted?
Speaker 3: Did you laugh now and do what he wants to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4: I surely told you what Bonk said about him. He'll
Speaker 4: always be dark off to me. I was just anytime
Speaker 4: his face shows up, I just can feel the seat
Speaker 4: next to me vibrating.
Speaker 3: His bond is laughing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's there's a scene later with Willem Dafoe where
Speaker 1: like you can tell he was just waiting to go
Speaker 1: nuts and he starts going nuts and doing his like
Speaker 1: the equivalent of the Boondock Saints, where he thinks that
Speaker 1: listening to classical music is gonna an orgasm is going
Speaker 1: when you sit in the.
Speaker 4: Fire everywhere, and he's yeah, yeah, he's That was amazing.
Speaker 1: Also, Nicholas Holt, like every time I see him in anything,
Speaker 1: he's always like just perfect for the role.
Speaker 3: What else I've seen him?
Speaker 1: The Menu mad Man, he.
Speaker 2: Plays such a weazy little worm.
Speaker 1: Same in this kind of almost but like a little
Speaker 1: bit like more disguising the fact that he's a huge baby.
Speaker 1: He's just dumb in this.
Speaker 2: I hope he's not type cast as like a weasly
Speaker 2: little worm. But like every time I see him, I'm
Speaker 2: always like, there's that weasley little runt.
Speaker 1: He was nuts and have a one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was always kind of just scraping by in
Speaker 2: the roles that he was playing. But I think he's
Speaker 2: a fantastic actor. It's unfortunate, do you know, like people
Speaker 2: who it's not their fall, it's just like their face
Speaker 2: and just kind of type cast them. They are people
Speaker 2: who are type cast as bullies or type cast is
Speaker 2: like idiots because of the way they look. And I
Speaker 2: think he's type cast as like a little weasel boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I in that vein. I also cannot imagine
Speaker 1: Lily depth being in anything besides like a gothic Victorian
Speaker 1: era bottom car like a doll kind of which you
Speaker 1: could tell they down surface. Like, yeah, the way they
Speaker 1: did her makeup, I like that movie quite a bit.
Speaker 2: It's like they put her forehead in a bowling ball shiner.
Speaker 2: They really accentuated.
Speaker 1: What is Do you have some underlying problem with Lily
Speaker 1: Depp and some resentment of some sort.
Speaker 2: I think I'm a hater.
Speaker 1: I just like shiner, like the cloth such a.
Speaker 3: Funny like are they doing this to her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Not have the machines, or you put a corner and
Speaker 4: you just dunk her head in it like a sorely.
Speaker 2: So glaring. I don't know. I was unimpressed with the performance,
Speaker 2: but I still really liked the film.
Speaker 1: I also did not realize that was Bill scars Guard
Speaker 1: until after the movie. He's becoming like the new horror
Speaker 1: monster dude because he did a Pennywise. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: also he was also I don't know, there's.
Speaker 4: All these scars Guards that popped up out of nowhere,
Speaker 4: Like I never heard scars Guard until like five or
Speaker 4: six years ago, and then there's nineteen of them and
Speaker 4: they're in everything.
Speaker 1: Well stelling scars Guard was always in everything. He was
Speaker 1: You've seen him all their dad. He was in pirates
Speaker 1: like Caribbean Girl with Dragon Tattoo, which we just rewatched
Speaker 1: the other night. What else.
Speaker 3: I don't think I saw the pirate stuff he was in.
Speaker 1: He was in, he was a couple. He was like
Speaker 1: Orlando Bloom's dad and Pirates the Caribbean. He's in a
Speaker 1: lot more and blanking right now. But the guard Guard
Speaker 1: was also a Barbarian. He was the other Airbnb guest
Speaker 1: at the beginning.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that you haven't seen Barbarians.
Speaker 1: You should, dude, you have.
Speaker 3: Never heard of this? What is barbarias?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: Really funny? Yeah? Yeah, no, no spoilers twenty twenty, don't
Speaker 1: look it up.
Speaker 3: Don't look up twenty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, stop, don't else watch barb movie night.
Speaker 2: Be very careful your audience at home. Barbarians, google Barbarian
Speaker 2: just watch it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know it was on HBO.
Speaker 1: Or Max or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's on now, but like, if
Speaker 2: you look, if you look it up, you're gonna fuck
Speaker 2: it up for yourself and your family.
Speaker 3: I added the list and I had not looked up
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 1: It is a well done horror movie.
Speaker 2: It's all yeah, that's yeah, that's fair. That's fair, and
Speaker 2: that is I think apparent in the first fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2: Like it is. It is a scary movie and it's
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear your reactions.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't mean to be the person like, oh,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this. I'm surprised you haven't because I
Speaker 1: feel like you would like it.
Speaker 3: I've never been a big horror guy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's yeah again, unless you know I think
Speaker 1: for this the better I think. Yeah, I would be
Speaker 1: surprised if Bonk hasn't seen it, But if she hasn't,
Speaker 1: I feel like she would really like it.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watch that, but yeah, Bill Scars guards in that.
Speaker 3: And then was the one that was in the succession.
Speaker 1: Who was the guy from the Viking? His brother?
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the other scars Guard's name?
Speaker 2: The oldest boy.
Speaker 3: That was the guy that was like the head of the.
Speaker 1: Norwegian dude or finished.
Speaker 2: Norwegian guy Norwegian Swedish scars Yeah, he was in the Viking.
Speaker 1: He was the Viking Alexander scars Guard the Norman.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That movie is really good.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Actually, I did not love that movie.
Speaker 2: It's I didn't care for it either.
Speaker 1: I thought Robert Egger's previous movie Ford after the Vampire,
Speaker 1: thought it was The White House.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do need to get letterbox. I like letterbox.
Speaker 4: I want to see your just your scores. You don't
Speaker 4: have to write anything.
Speaker 2: No, I'm doing it right now. I'm telling you my opinion.
Speaker 3: This is its work.
Speaker 1: Man. Oh you're all night. The furnace is back together.
Speaker 2: Furnace is back on.
Speaker 4: Speaking of horror movies, Jake, Jake, can you look at
Speaker 4: every syllable I say from this point on and please
Speaker 4: knock out the furnace, thanks, Jake.
Speaker 2: Nothing that can be done. It's just a horrible pipe
Speaker 2: that looks feels like it's leaking gas into your house and you.
Speaker 3: Die thirty for a while.
Speaker 2: Put on a sweater. You fucking not cold.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm not cold because of this furnace.
Speaker 4: It gets bank be all cold upstairs.
Speaker 1: You know what it sounds like, you know what?
Speaker 6: You playing bonk on your fucking port and you have
Speaker 6: no sound baffling, and you are a fun entertainer in
Speaker 6: your room for a living.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm just starting with this.
Speaker 1: Stuff sounds someone is in that closet folding and unfolding
Speaker 1: an ironing board. That makes sense, It doesn't every every
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's a robot laughing along with you.
Speaker 4: Let's just get a nice clean read of the furnace here.
Speaker 4: You can't it only okay, because yeah, it's the noise
Speaker 4: gate thing. Yeah, okay, Well it's only that I never
Speaker 4: stopped talking.
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about video games.
Speaker 2: Sure, fucking furnace.
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's really scraping Mary's ear drums.
Speaker 2: It's so ir, it's my, it's my. What eating is
Speaker 2: to Mike, it's just like this trigger whistle.
Speaker 3: I'm in the room with it. It's always more reason.
Speaker 2: For you to solve the problem. I love that your
Speaker 2: answer was I don't know how to turn off a fern.
Speaker 2: I don't, and I'm not going to let my wife
Speaker 2: freeze to death.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I think you just have to actually try
Speaker 1: to beat down. Okay, Dan, I need an update. Are
Speaker 1: you still playing Red Dead two?
Speaker 4: I am. I haven't had as much time to play,
Speaker 4: uh since last time, but I have been like, if
Speaker 4: I have like a free night, that's when I settle
Speaker 4: in I play. Yeah, I'm like eighteen hours in now,
Speaker 4: starting to kind of get outside of that first main
Speaker 4: camp area, going to you know, rescue guys, rescue Micah
Speaker 4: from Strawberry and kind of getting the crew back together
Speaker 4: and everything, kind of going back into black Water and
Speaker 4: seeing now it's all, you know, real hot there in
Speaker 4: terms of you know, the crime situation. But yeah, no,
Speaker 4: still playing it, still enjoying it. I wouldn't say any
Speaker 4: big updates or revelations or anything like that. It's just uh,
Speaker 4: I do feel like I'm doing it right this time,
Speaker 4: and I do not think it's going to be a
Speaker 4: thing where I'm suddenly like this is the best game ever.
Speaker 4: But I think it is going to go from me
Speaker 4: just saying it's a piece of ship game every time
Speaker 4: it comes up to me being like, it's a really
Speaker 4: really it's a really good game.
Speaker 3: But it's not going to be for everyone. And there
Speaker 3: are things that still annoy me about it. Okay, very mature. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I understand symbolism though you're just noble.
Speaker 1: I'm noble.
Speaker 3: I don't want to use the word hero.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I think I said that earlier, and
Speaker 1: I think you did.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of the emails did.
Speaker 4: We had to like kind of call the emails because
Speaker 4: most of them were just calling me a hero.
Speaker 1: What does Mary always say that whenever you say something.
Speaker 2: Dan is a piece of ship?
Speaker 3: No, I think you know, I say something and.
Speaker 2: You say is a piece of ship.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to clip that.
Speaker 1: It'd be funny clip. Uh good to hear Mary. You
Speaker 1: beat Silent Hill, by the way, I know how Silent Hill.
Speaker 1: Do you still like it now that it's over?
Speaker 2: I still like it. I'm glad it's over. I just
Speaker 2: think that that is a long time to be really
Speaker 2: stressed about legs.
Speaker 4: And the symbolism though, tell me about the symbolism. I
Speaker 4: heard there's a lot in that game sexual assault.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, what's what's.
Speaker 2: The It's mostly sex related innuendo sexual violence. I would
Speaker 2: say it is probably like the better term holes are
Speaker 2: repeated throughout that can also be maybe referred to like
Speaker 2: going further and further into hell, but a lot of
Speaker 2: it is sexual violence.
Speaker 4: That's it's pretty wild for big budget for a big
Speaker 4: budget game made by Konami, when Kanami was a big deal.
Speaker 4: That's the wild tonally in subject matter wise, to put
Speaker 4: out back then.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they got the rights. I think that
Speaker 2: they didn't know.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like one of those things where they
Speaker 2: probably played like a snippet of it and they were
Speaker 2: like these nurses are and they're also hot and their
Speaker 2: titties are out, and then towards the end they were
Speaker 2: like this, son of a bitch, Yeah, this is really dangerous.
Speaker 2: And there's like, I mean, the themes, I want to
Speaker 2: be really careful here, but like the themes are also
Speaker 2: about like young girls like it's fucked up, and like
Speaker 2: it is a really hard to process game, especially towards
Speaker 2: the end. Like the more you get into it, the
Speaker 2: more you're like, oh, this is so gutting. It's so draining.
Speaker 2: People are miserable, and I got apparently I got the
Speaker 2: good ending and it's fucking devastating. It's really bad. And
Speaker 2: my chat was like, yeah, you that's a good ending.
Speaker 2: Everyone's dead. It's a real miserable. It's actually reminds me
Speaker 2: of something that you wouldn't get, Like it was one
Speaker 2: of those endings where he's just like he's like crying
Speaker 2: and he's like really miserable. Then it like it goes
Speaker 2: to black and then you hear like these no, and
Speaker 2: you probably would have been like, well, I hope he
Speaker 2: has a good life. I know, specifically I finds himself.
Speaker 4: One day, I was in person with Kayla as she'd
Speaker 4: be the last four hours that game, and we both
Speaker 4: I watched every second and it ended, and me and
Speaker 4: Kayla were like, well, that's a spooky town.
Speaker 3: What the hell was that about?
Speaker 4: And then Chad had to explain it to us, like,
Speaker 4: this is what that was about. Here's the metaphor here
Speaker 4: and Kayla and I both gone, Oh, that's fucking sad
Speaker 4: and traumatic. That's wow.
Speaker 2: Is the spooky town?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't want to go there on
Speaker 4: my vacation.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that mansion was full of zombies.
Speaker 3: Actually waits nuts. Resident Evel's actually.
Speaker 1: Just stupid, right, are you serious?
Speaker 3: Yes? Underlying? Oh you fuck her?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's about capitalism or something. Everything's about fucking capitalism.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's.
Speaker 2: About the war.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which war? All of them?
Speaker 3: Damn the war on the middle class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wid the gap.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad.
Speaker 4: That Chris Redfield is the everyman wescar Is Trump.
Speaker 1: Really really prescient game? Long before he ever talked about
Speaker 1: running Umbrella is Elon Yep. Spencer is also trus Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, whooa Yeah, crimson heads are crimson heads? Are
Speaker 1: You would have.
Speaker 2: Known that if you knew good movies?
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, crimson edger Trump's second term because he
Speaker 4: thought he was gone.
Speaker 3: You can't he can run for doors? Yeah wow, we're
Speaker 3: a political smart podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump, and now that he's back, he can use doors.
Speaker 4: They can run through doors. Now they have to keep
Speaker 4: replacing them at the White House.
Speaker 1: Barrels through them secret service, just as to up their
Speaker 1: cardio to follow him around. He's sprinting around the White
Speaker 1: House opening doors.
Speaker 7: He was in a volcano and fucking Lodgers came and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I really do like how Chris Redfield goes from this
Speaker 7: every man person who just stumbled onto a into a
Speaker 7: mansion in the woods because his helicopter got shot down,
Speaker 7: and then he's punching a boulder in Africa.
Speaker 3: It's a good series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: It's very good.
Speaker 1: Uh Resumel to remake, I think is one of like
Speaker 1: the best games period. What am I playing? Oh, i'm playing?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: I finished. I finished Dishonored, the first one. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the DLC. Now. I forgot how abruptly and badly that
Speaker 1: first game ended you could tell they were just getting
Speaker 1: ready for the DLC. But also I forgot how much
Speaker 1: I'm Dishonner two is just I used to like be
Speaker 1: split between which one I liked, but god, Dishuner two
Speaker 1: is much better. But it was still fun going back
Speaker 1: to see those missions and Dishonor one seeing the kernel
Speaker 1: of what would become some of the sequels in the
Speaker 1: DLC's really good missions. So that's gone sort of in
Speaker 1: the immersive sim vain and talk speaking of level design,
Speaker 1: I'm also playing the embargo went up this morning for
Speaker 1: Sniper Elite Resistance. Yeah, if you are a Sniper Elite fan.
Speaker 1: For those who don't know, it's third person sniper series
Speaker 1: set in World War Two, and each new mainline game
Speaker 1: kind of goes from a different theater of war, generally
Speaker 1: speaking during World War Two. But the levels are sandboxes
Speaker 1: kind of in this the vein that they are in
Speaker 1: Dishonored or hit Man. They're like immersive sim levels. Resistance
Speaker 1: is feels like a just big expansion pack to five.
Speaker 1: So you are a different character. I believe he's Scottish,
Speaker 1: but you are helping the French resistance during Nazi occupation.
Speaker 1: I've done four levels and again.
Speaker 2: Always find a way to put Nazi occupation in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that way you don't feel bad about shooting them in.
Speaker 3: Their balls slow mo style.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have not turned off SloMo yet.
Speaker 4: I crank them all all the way up in those
Speaker 4: games every super frequent and yeah, I want to see it.
Speaker 4: Literally why I play those games. I just want to
Speaker 4: see Hitler's ball explode.
Speaker 1: But the level, the level design of those games are phenomenal.
Speaker 1: In Resistance, I will say the game I'm playing on
Speaker 1: a PC, it feels pretty messy right now. A there's
Speaker 1: no big mechanical innovation since five, which is fine, not
Speaker 1: that you need it. I kind of was just hoping
Speaker 1: for more levels, which is what it is. The first one,
Speaker 1: you are it's like GoldenEye, You're going to destroy this
Speaker 1: dam so you can mess up anti aircraft so these
Speaker 1: bombers can come. In the second one, it's more traditional
Speaker 1: French countryside town that you're sneaking in and out of apartments.
Speaker 1: In the design conceit there is that there are these
Speaker 1: underground tunnels connecting the whole map. So once you start
Speaker 1: to learn the underground tunnel system, you can pop up
Speaker 1: kill one of your side mission targets, go back into
Speaker 1: the tunnels up here on the other side of town.
Speaker 1: I could see going back to that mission to try
Speaker 1: to master those. Now I'm on one that's a combination
Speaker 1: of a train station or rally yard and a big
Speaker 1: hotel where this Nazi party is happening, not the Nazi party,
Speaker 1: but like a party for Nazis, And uh, that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's got it's got like Saboteur Vibes Color Palte.
Speaker 1: You played that game.
Speaker 3: I like that game. Yeah, me too. So what d
Speaker 3: I think Saboteur had nipple DLC?
Speaker 1: You can add nipples to the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm searching for Saboteur nipple DLC.
Speaker 3: Yep. It's called Midnight Show.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they put DLC nipples.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's correct, Midnight show.
Speaker 4: Midnight Show is the name of the DLC. Yes, DLC
Speaker 4: that adds nudity to the game. Extra hiding spot.
Speaker 2: Keeps repeating what you say so that it makes more sense.
Speaker 2: Nipples you say, you say midnight you say.
Speaker 4: Launch DLC that allows players to toggle nudity on and off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go on and off.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Oh.
Speaker 4: You go to the Unlocks, the secret basement of Sean
Speaker 4: Devlin's favorite strip club. You can play a mini game
Speaker 4: to earn some extra cash and watch a saucy nude
Speaker 4: dance from one of three Bucksome French girls, or all
Speaker 4: three at once if you're feeling frisky.
Speaker 1: Oh, if you're feeling frisky. Yeah, I back to what
Speaker 1: I was saying before. Sniper Elite Resistance is it's fun
Speaker 1: to see the new levels. However, it is pretty janky.
Speaker 1: I will be crouch walking along a building on the
Speaker 1: edge of this courtyard, and I have just quick loaded
Speaker 1: because I know this nazis about to turn around and
Speaker 1: see me. And as I'm getting to the top of
Speaker 1: these stairs to get into a building, I just hitch
Speaker 1: on the last step while I'm crouched, so I have
Speaker 1: to stand up in order to walk through the door. He,
Speaker 1: unlike Trump, does not know how to use doors in
Speaker 1: this game sometimes, so I then reveal myself and I
Speaker 1: don't have any other choice. I have a choice. I
Speaker 1: could go around, but I'm just being stubborn. So that's
Speaker 1: not the game's fault. But yeah, it's just I'm getting
Speaker 1: caught on geometry in a way that reminds me of
Speaker 1: like Assassin's Creed Unity. Maybe not that bad, but bad enough.
Speaker 1: Where in a stealth game, in a sniper game game
Speaker 1: about precision, Yeah, you don't want like in a stealky
Speaker 1: if you get discovered, you want to feel like you
Speaker 1: fucked up, not the game. Yeah, So again, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a Day one patch that's
Speaker 1: that will have been out today. Other than that the
Speaker 1: game's running smoothly, like really well, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's good otherwise, but if you're expecting anything other than
Speaker 1: a big expansion pack, which if you're like me, that's
Speaker 1: you're fine with that because you like Sniper Leet five
Speaker 1: so much, you might be disappointed. But it's it's good
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: Now, what advancements have they made to enemies balls?
Speaker 1: I have not shot anybody in the balls yet. I did.
Speaker 4: However, Amanda bash, that's right.
Speaker 1: Hear me out. I did not tell Amanda the the
Speaker 1: gimmick in that game. So I was like, watch, we
Speaker 1: shoot this Nazzi in the head, and there's a sniper
Speaker 1: up in this bell tower across town, and I I
Speaker 1: triple check that there was no one that would hear
Speaker 1: my gunshot from where I was, which is the best
Speaker 1: feeling ever when you actually pull it off, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's slow motion. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a Michael Bay kind of slimmo. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it goes into his head and
Speaker 1: then the skull gets the X ray.
Speaker 3: She's like, a, yeah, it's video games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2: So funny too, because like it is like a very
Speaker 2: well thought out game, but ultimately, like these compilations that
Speaker 2: I made on game Spot, We're all ball Bay.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: It was like top ten Ballbusters, Sniper Leaf.
Speaker 1: That's the best. That was me.
Speaker 4: I turn it to the easiest setting, no enemy vision anything,
Speaker 4: no one knows they're blind, they're deaf, and they all
Speaker 4: have just balls that are not ruptured yet. That's how
Speaker 4: I said every setting, and then I just go ball hunting.
Speaker 2: Going on a ball hunt.
Speaker 3: That's that whole series. To me. I played like five
Speaker 3: of those games just hunting balls.
Speaker 2: I'm always hunting balls. I think that that game is
Speaker 2: so funny and it is gimmicky in that sense, but
Speaker 2: that's also excellent marketing, right, Like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: many people would genuinely be like I know exactly what
Speaker 2: game that is. But when you say Sniper Elite, everyone's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's the one where you can shoot them in the
Speaker 2: balls and it shows like the X ray of their balls.
Speaker 4: Exploded and they do like DLC of like Hitler's Retreat
Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, he's at his vacation chateau and
Speaker 4: it's like peterful and swim trunks with like a drink
Speaker 4: and sunglasses.
Speaker 1: They're gonna shoot him his nuts. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: they're selling. Hitler is on vacation in this matter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, balls are about to be on vacation from his
Speaker 4: fucking scroed him.
Speaker 1: I'm about to send him and Eva both on vacation
Speaker 1: to Hell. Yeah but no, I mean it's again. If
Speaker 1: it's it's exactly what you expect, just some rough edges
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still enjoying it. Yeah, I I some
Speaker 1: of the level design from that team is up there
Speaker 1: with the best dishonoreds and Hitman's uh sniper leet five
Speaker 1: the Chateau St. Michelle one. Did you play that game? Five?
Speaker 4: I think so they've got Yeah, Grub did the co
Speaker 4: op thing where we're both hunting Hitlers together.
Speaker 1: Co Op is super fun in those games. It's got
Speaker 1: the causeway into the town like off the Coast. It's
Speaker 1: it's an actual place. But that mission is amazing. That
Speaker 1: you go up the hill to the church. That's that
Speaker 1: ranks right up there with Clockwork mansion and cracking the
Speaker 1: slab from dishonor too for me.
Speaker 4: When you are exploring these levels, Mike and France, do
Speaker 4: you frequently think about wine?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I do.
Speaker 1: I actually have been doing this thing in video games.
Speaker 1: When I see there's a wine model and a seller
Speaker 1: or something, I look at what they did with the label. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no labels on these ones.
Speaker 4: What is the twisted metal to Paris level where you
Speaker 4: can blow up the Eiffel Tower and make you think
Speaker 4: of wine wise.
Speaker 1: And the nineteen forty seven Bordeaux.
Speaker 3: Oh yep, me too, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The legendary vintage. Yeah, naturally twisted metal would remind me
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, but another you can they there's several
Speaker 1: different wine bottles they use in Black Op six in
Speaker 1: the Casino heist mission. You can look at those. They
Speaker 1: did some pretty good label work.
Speaker 4: Leo Vader did a video once where I think it
Speaker 4: was a it might have been Rainbow six Siege where
Speaker 4: he went around to all of the like food and
Speaker 4: drink and all the levels and like just did a
Speaker 4: deep dive on like here's this wicker basket of beans,
Speaker 4: here's this label of this wine thing, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, what an interesting take?
Speaker 1: What was the take?
Speaker 3: Just look at this food.
Speaker 1: It's not a take. Just look at this stuff I
Speaker 1: looked at.
Speaker 3: I've been like a long time since I saw it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's smarter, and I'm describing it. I just
Speaker 3: really Leo's great.
Speaker 1: Leo cool your jets, dude, We're not ready for this
Speaker 1: kind of fucking opinion right now.
Speaker 3: It had to be.
Speaker 4: Pored to it than that, because I remember thinking like
Speaker 4: this is genius.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, I'm sure it was. For the record,
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of Leo and making fun of you.
Speaker 1: Leo's work is amazing, and then people should be familiar
Speaker 1: with it. If they're not.
Speaker 3: Yes, his hip.
Speaker 1: Man stuff is always well, you guys did stuff together.
Speaker 1: The challenges to I think about that game World Assassination,
Speaker 1: those games on a nightly basis.
Speaker 3: You should.
Speaker 1: We got to do like some sort of bonus contaent
Speaker 1: with it. I don't give a fuck if we steal hits,
Speaker 1: miss something like that.
Speaker 3: That's I came up with that. It's sealing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I can do it with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do like that, which reminds me.
Speaker 1: At the end of the episode, we have something to promo.
Speaker 1: Speaking of uh, next Lander, I guess is the best
Speaker 1: way to segue Dan, what else you're playing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I started playing Blade Chimera, which I've been on a
Speaker 4: real Metroid Vania kick lately with the Dominant collection and
Speaker 4: now Blade Camera. It's a kind of one of those
Speaker 4: you know, it's that aesthetic where it's like, oh, you've
Speaker 4: got guns and plasma guns and swords, and it's just like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you call it. It's definitely like
Speaker 4: a sci fi metroid Vanya. And it's cool because you've
Speaker 4: got square and circle. You can put weapons in each
Speaker 4: of those. If you want a gun and the gun,
Speaker 4: you can do that. If you want a gun and
Speaker 4: a sword, you can do that an assault rifle, and
Speaker 4: you know, you can decide what you want there close range,
Speaker 4: far range, whatever. But then on triangle you have lux
Speaker 4: which is this like spirit sword. I think like the
Speaker 4: Skywrid sword, you know, turns into a lady. Sometimes it's
Speaker 4: the sword and it has its own abilities. Wait what
Speaker 4: are you laughing at?
Speaker 1: What? And oh, Skyward sword?
Speaker 3: I thought you a spirit in the sword? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: it comes out and talks to you. Yeah, it's like yeah, fee,
Speaker 3: It's like it's the sword that turn.
Speaker 1: Into talking about tears of the Kingdom. And with those games,
Speaker 1: you could have said that the sword can send out
Speaker 1: a lady, and I would have believed you because there's
Speaker 1: so much shit in that game I haven't.
Speaker 4: Seen sure, So like what no No sword turns into it's
Speaker 4: a spirit sword that turns into a lady and and
Speaker 4: she gets all sorts of abilities too, and it's got
Speaker 4: that like Doom Eternal kind of like AMMO and health
Speaker 4: economy where it's like if you kill with standard weapons
Speaker 4: guns and swords, you get lux energy for your Spirit sword.
Speaker 3: If you kill with the Spirit Sword, you get health.
Speaker 4: And so it's just a lot of looking at your
Speaker 4: bars up there and being like I need this, I
Speaker 4: need this, I'll use this, I'll use that, and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: unlocking different abilities extuft for the sword itself, which is
Speaker 4: really cool. The sword can be a grappling hook. The
Speaker 4: sword can turn into a thing that like can remember
Speaker 4: in like singularity or that uh like remember you could
Speaker 4: like reverse time like oh this box that got crushed
Speaker 4: or it goes back in time and now it's like
Speaker 4: that type of stuff, like reverting things from the past.
Speaker 4: So like the Stoord, basically that triangle button has a
Speaker 4: lot you can do, uh contextually, depending on where you're at.
Speaker 1: It's on sale or it's on sale right now in
Speaker 1: a bundle with Bloodstained. Oh that's it's like generation of
Speaker 1: metro Vania Bundle.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck.
Speaker 4: If you haven't played Bloodstain, that's a no brainer because
Speaker 4: Bloodstains I still with like Castlevanias.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I watched you play a lot for Giant Bombies, but
Speaker 1: I haven't played.
Speaker 4: It's super good. But yeah, this is who I'm two
Speaker 4: or three hours in now to this. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a super long one based on like
Speaker 4: the map percentage of at now, but great boss fight.
Speaker 4: It's good look to it kind of gets right into it.
Speaker 4: Not a lot of exposition or anything like that, but
Speaker 4: just I don't know, Like I feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of Metroid Veaneas have similar aesthetics and everything, and I
Speaker 4: think this handles the kind of like future sci fi
Speaker 4: ish thing in a way that kind of looks like
Speaker 4: its own and the spirit sorts stuff, like I really
Speaker 4: like how that lux works.
Speaker 3: With your more traditional weapons. It's a it's a really
Speaker 3: cool so far.
Speaker 1: It's a cool looking game. It honestly looks like at
Speaker 1: a distance, the graphics themselves look like kind of the
Speaker 1: background of a beat them up.
Speaker 3: Oh, I could see that a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little like kind of Saturn era maybe,
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah. It's also got some quality of life
Speaker 4: stuff where it's like, you know, all these metro venias,
Speaker 4: it's so much like I need to find a saved
Speaker 4: room where I'm gonna lose all this progress and level
Speaker 4: ups I've been doing.
Speaker 3: This one.
Speaker 4: You can like fucking warp most anywhere on the map.
Speaker 4: Like one of the first things you can unlock is
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, just warp wherever you want to of
Speaker 4: like places you've been to instead of like only using
Speaker 4: special teleport rooms or you know, transit rooms or whatever.
Speaker 4: But it's just been feels great, plays awesome on steam Deck.
Speaker 4: I've only played with Unsteam Deck, but yeah, very much
Speaker 4: enjoying it so far.
Speaker 1: Oh it's great Soka.
Speaker 2: You can tell because of the roofs right, Like they
Speaker 2: have that like classic Osaka roof tile set for a
Speaker 2: lot of their styles. It looks really nice up the
Speaker 2: boss fights looktrip too. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: Those roofs are awesome.
Speaker 4: Also, the thing you can do with the sword too
Speaker 4: is like really cool platforming stuff where it's like if
Speaker 4: you're jumping at a wall that doesn't have a ledge
Speaker 4: you can jump onto. You can hold in why or
Speaker 4: triangle to throw it into the wall and then climb
Speaker 4: onto it, so you can kind of like make your
Speaker 4: own little platform with a sword, or if you do
Speaker 4: down in triangle, it like creates a little bubble around
Speaker 4: you that'll project you against projectiles. So like there's just
Speaker 4: a lot of different ways you can approach different fights
Speaker 4: and boss fights and everything. So just it feels really
Speaker 4: cool planet.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh man, maybe you two would know
Speaker 1: this is going to be the worst description ever. There
Speaker 1: was this game I really liked. I fucking beat it.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: It was really colorful side scrolling. I think it was
Speaker 1: like a I don't know that it was a METROIDVNA.
Speaker 1: I think you can assign you gather characters and then
Speaker 1: you you assign them to each face button, so you're
Speaker 1: fighting with one and.
Speaker 3: Then nobody saves the world.
Speaker 1: No. I love that game. I knew that game. It
Speaker 1: was earlier than that. It was like a year or
Speaker 1: two before. It'll come to me at some point, but basically,
Speaker 1: you're fighting with one character, but then you press circle
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the other character comes out
Speaker 1: does their ultimate and it was like an indie game.
Speaker 1: Ah man, I wrote about it, I think for Polygon,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't even know what to google to find it.
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. It's just something about the art
Speaker 1: style here. The color palette reminded me of that game
Speaker 1: which I really liked but forgot the name of Mary.
Speaker 1: What else have you been playing?
Speaker 2: I was playing Dome Keeper. I was looking for a
Speaker 2: tower defense or like something that I wanted something. So
Speaker 2: this is not like a new game. This came out
Speaker 2: a couple years ago and I never played it, and
Speaker 2: I was looking for something that just allowed me to
Speaker 2: have a simple premise.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You never have like one of those nights where you're like,
Speaker 2: I want to put on some crap on TV that
Speaker 2: I'm not actually watching. I want to sit on my
Speaker 2: couch and I want to play something on my Steam
Speaker 2: deck that won't kill me if I'm not fully paying attention.
Speaker 2: But I do want to like enjoy it. Okay, I
Speaker 2: actually really like dome Keeper. Here's the concept. You are digging.
Speaker 2: You're like digging into the earth to find raw materials.
Speaker 2: The raw materials help you upgrade your digging, your flying,
Speaker 2: and your carryability, which is also very important because then
Speaker 2: you can carry more materials. But every like sixty seconds,
Speaker 2: something attacks your dome, and so you got to hurry
Speaker 2: back to your dome so that you can use a
Speaker 2: laser to like laser them in the face and get
Speaker 2: rid of them. Each wave gets slightly more difficult, so
Speaker 2: you need to hurry up. The second the wave is over,
Speaker 2: I'm like back down in the ground digging up more
Speaker 2: raw materials. There's three different types of materials. There's like
Speaker 2: gold or I think they've been calling it or but
Speaker 2: like let's be real, it's like essentially like just currency one.
Speaker 2: And that helps you get stuff like buying a better laser,
Speaker 2: upgrading your character so that they can carry fly faster. Oh,
Speaker 2: the drill needs to be stronger because as you progress outwards,
Speaker 2: these are all procedurally generated. So the core part, like
Speaker 2: as you're as you're starting out, that's like really loose
Speaker 2: rock and you can get through it. But once you
Speaker 2: get beyond that, you can't dig through that rocket takes forever,
Speaker 2: so you need to upgrade your drill. That's all or
Speaker 2: So your first currency. Second currency is usually some kind
Speaker 2: of like I use it mostly to get health back,
Speaker 2: so to repair a repair currency that comes in handy
Speaker 2: because you is a brutal game and you get viciously attacked.
Speaker 2: So there are so many times in this game where
Speaker 2: I was like barely making it just by the scrape
Speaker 2: of my teeth through like some of these horrible monster fights.
Speaker 2: And then I would repair a bunch and go back
Speaker 2: into the minds to dig for more crap. And then
Speaker 2: the third currency I think is why, which is a
Speaker 2: really interesting one, and that one helps with your defense,
Speaker 2: so you can make your dome stronger, you can get
Speaker 2: like nice quality of life things. The very first thing
Speaker 2: I ever invested in was let me know when the
Speaker 2: next monster attack is, which is great, just so you
Speaker 2: don't forget to go and defend your dome when you
Speaker 2: need to. By the end of this game, I want
Speaker 2: to say, like games are anywhere from like thirty five
Speaker 2: forty minutes to like an hour. Maybe I think they're
Speaker 2: shorter than that, but generally, like it's just a nice
Speaker 2: slice of completing a game. You have to get further
Speaker 2: and further into the minds, upgrade your character, and then
Speaker 2: before you know it, you like uncover an ancient artifacty
Speaker 2: type thing, you gotta dig that shit out. You have
Speaker 2: to turn it on. So you have to like dig
Speaker 2: out all the batteries and shit and turn them on.
Speaker 2: And then when you do that, you can take that
Speaker 2: bad Boy home and then you like, you get a
Speaker 2: giant wave of monsters. If you can survive the giant
Speaker 2: wave of monsters, you win. It's so electric. I actually
Speaker 2: fucking love it. I can't believe I never played it before.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I stumbled across this bad Boy,
Speaker 2: but like, I'm obsessed with Domekeeper because I really like
Speaker 2: the dynamic of digging and like upgrading my character, but
Speaker 2: also being like I gotta get home because the flying
Speaker 2: fuckers are gonna come and kill my dome. It's really good.
Speaker 4: I feel like every time someone's subscribed this game to me,
Speaker 4: and in the last few years, I feel like so
Speaker 4: many people have recommended it. It always sounds very interesting
Speaker 4: and sounds like something that I would personally like.
Speaker 2: A lot, and I think you would fucking love it.
Speaker 4: I think I would, And I think that every time
Speaker 4: someone's recommended it to me, I've just had other stuff
Speaker 4: like piled up.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Now that it's kind of a light, you know, time
Speaker 4: of year right now, maybe a light Well, I guess
Speaker 4: that's why I'm playing Red Dead too, so maybe want
Speaker 4: something with that. Hopefully it'll still be light. But I
Speaker 4: haven't meet. I've had a note on my phone to
Speaker 4: check this out for like I feel a couple of
Speaker 4: years now. Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's great on Steam Deck, so
Speaker 2: if like that helps in any way. I think it's
Speaker 2: like an easy game on the go. It's an easy
Speaker 2: game on the couch. I say easy to like pick up.
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult to play game. It has four
Speaker 2: levels of difficulty. The game tells you play it on brutal,
Speaker 2: don't play it on normal, don't play it on hard,
Speaker 2: play it on brutal. That's what the game tells me
Speaker 2: to do. So that's what I did. I die a lot.
Speaker 2: I do not survive this game quite often. It has
Speaker 2: really good end game as well, so like after you
Speaker 2: like win for the first time, they're like, here's some upgrades.
Speaker 2: Now we're really mixing it up. Every time you win,
Speaker 2: it lets you uncover a new Uh. I guess you're
Speaker 2: a domed defender, So like you get a new defender
Speaker 2: and there's like a guy who's like magic and he
Speaker 2: can like I don't know, he carries things differently, and
Speaker 2: he can like change gravitational pull whatever. There's different domes.
Speaker 2: There's one that instead of a laser, it's a fucking sword,
Speaker 2: and so I have to manually raise the sword and
Speaker 2: drop it on monsters to kill them. And I can
Speaker 2: also shoot the sword with like a cord on the
Speaker 2: end of it to kill the flying monsters. That's pretty fun.
Speaker 2: There's different ways to play. So the one that I
Speaker 2: was telling you, the generic one that's called Relic Hunter,
Speaker 2: you're getting a relic that's deep inside the earth. But
Speaker 2: there's lots of different ways to play. They have ones
Speaker 2: where they're just like get two hundred or before time
Speaker 2: runs out, and there's ones that are like, instead of
Speaker 2: giving you a wave of monsters every minute, we're not
Speaker 2: gonna do a wave of monsters for eighteen minutes. Then
Speaker 2: we're gonna fucking blast your ass with like eighteen rounds
Speaker 2: of monsters at once, which is really fun to prepare for.
Speaker 2: I've I've been playing it a lot. I've been kind
Speaker 2: of enjoying the different challenges that this game has given me.
Speaker 2: I will say, like at some point, I get a
Speaker 2: little tired of mining. It's the same old, same old.
Speaker 2: But like, if you're looking for a monotonous game that
Speaker 2: tells you to mind shit and upgrade your character and
Speaker 2: then fight monsters, this is it.
Speaker 4: I'd like the act of digging in games like Same
Speaker 4: World Digs, Flucky Dig Dug, like a drill dozer Minecraft,
Speaker 4: Like there is something very satisfying about just like I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna dig here for a while. You're right, those
Speaker 4: are the perfect games to just like I've got something
Speaker 4: on in the background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty mindless. And it's also a roguelike, so
Speaker 2: like if you're playing it before bed and you fucking die,
Speaker 2: then you're like, all right, well I'm going to bed now,
Speaker 2: Like there's nothing to get really that upset about. Similar
Speaker 2: to Splunky, right, Like you were like, do a round
Speaker 2: a Splunky and you just kid absolutely annihilated. You're not mad,
Speaker 2: You're just like, well it happens, and then you can
Speaker 2: then you you play again or you quit. And this
Speaker 2: is what this game makes me feel. Like I've never
Speaker 2: like died in this game and been like this is
Speaker 2: such bullshit. Like a kid, it's just like, oh well
Speaker 2: that sucks. I lost twenty minutes. I guess I'll just
Speaker 2: do it again, and you just do it again.
Speaker 1: You just do.
Speaker 4: That's one of the great things about Rogue Lights, is
Speaker 4: it do you have these very sectioned off just like
Speaker 4: I got one more run in me. Let's see how
Speaker 4: this goes? Like I just naturals stopping points in Rogue Lights.
Speaker 4: I love that I.
Speaker 2: Got thirty minutes to kill. I don't want to call
Speaker 2: my family. I'm three beers deep. Let's go, I really did.
Speaker 2: I do think this game is well designed. You can
Speaker 2: tell that they've they've clearly thought about mechanically, like how
Speaker 2: precious these resources are. But because again it's procedurally generated,
Speaker 2: you never know exactly what vane you're going to hit.
Speaker 2: So you might desperately want purples, which are the ones
Speaker 2: that help you like repair, but you keep getting gold
Speaker 2: and you're like, this is just bullshit. You might just
Speaker 2: have an unlucky run where it takes you ages to
Speaker 2: find the relic. I've Also, the game starts on I
Speaker 2: think small mode, and so the area that you're digging
Speaker 2: is not very big. That is small, and then as
Speaker 2: you as soon as you win one round, it expands
Speaker 2: to medium and big. The big minds are fucking ungodly big.
Speaker 2: It's really fun to be like, I can't there's no
Speaker 2: way I'm gonna be able to find where this relic is.
Speaker 2: It's it's really cool to like min Max, you're digging
Speaker 2: and be like, I gotta find this relic probably in
Speaker 2: the next five rounds or I will die. So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I've really enjoyed it thoroughly. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: like it has like this insane long like I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'll play it forever or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like the next Pialatro or anything,
Speaker 2: but I have. It has taken up a lot of
Speaker 2: my weekend and I have absolutely adored it.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 4: I really need to get around to that at some point,
Speaker 4: because again, every time it comes up, I'm like, that
Speaker 4: sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you do it. I hope you. I
Speaker 2: hope you uh watch Barbarian and play dome Keeper and
Speaker 2: report back because they're great.
Speaker 3: Barbarian is a likely one sooner.
Speaker 4: I think Domekeeper I've been putting off because there's new
Speaker 4: stuff and everything, But like I think we do movie
Speaker 4: night every week.
Speaker 3: We all bring it up with bunk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Cool Dan.
Speaker 1: How is Donkey Kong Country Returns?
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 4: I've always been a huge defender of that game when
Speaker 4: it came out on the Wii. I mean, the one
Speaker 4: big complaint was that, like to do the role, which
Speaker 4: is a thing you do all the fucking time in
Speaker 4: those games, you had to do the waggle because it
Speaker 4: was on Wei. And then they put it on three DS,
Speaker 4: and it's like, Okay, great, I can do the role
Speaker 4: with a button like I want to, But it's not.
Speaker 4: It's chained to three DS and a tiny screen and
Speaker 4: all that. So now it's this game that I've I've
Speaker 4: long thought was one of the best platformers I've played.
Speaker 4: It's certainly two D platformers I've played that it looks good,
Speaker 4: it's on the switch, I don't have to do motion bullshit.
Speaker 4: It's it's just a tremendous game that I think it
Speaker 4: reviewed well and everything. But I don't hear people talk
Speaker 4: about as much as I feel they should. Fantastic platformer
Speaker 4: holds up very very well. Yeah, still loving it.
Speaker 1: Soundtracks still good, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, always great. I think I think it's the best.
Speaker 4: I think it is the best game with Donkey Kong
Speaker 4: in the title.
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong Country from so wait, sorry, this is the
Speaker 1: Is it a really remaster of the one on the
Speaker 1: Wii or the original Super Nintendo?
Speaker 3: No, no, it's it's the Donkey Kong Country Returns the
Speaker 3: Wei game.
Speaker 1: Ah gotcha? Okay, not Donkey Kong Country.
Speaker 3: Which on the Wii. I think.
Speaker 4: I thought it was the best game with Donkey Kong
Speaker 4: in the title, and I like Donkey Kong. I like,
Speaker 4: I'm not like obsessed with the series gameplay. I think
Speaker 4: the character is hilarious for the best thing ever. Well everyone, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean you don't even say that, but I mustn't.
Speaker 1: Stout playing it.
Speaker 2: Is it co op?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: In fact, me, there was a winter break when it
Speaker 4: first came out that I took it home and me
Speaker 4: and Katie and Kayla, my sisters, we traded off like
Speaker 4: our teams, and it was just like a whole night
Speaker 4: of us. We made a whole drinking game around it,
Speaker 4: and it was just this crazy, like eight hour night
Speaker 4: of us just screaming and passing the controllers back and forth,
Speaker 4: and it was like a super duper fun because like
Speaker 4: it's like mind cart levels that are super hard at
Speaker 4: the end, and oh shit, I fucked up, and so
Speaker 4: now don Key Kong's dead. Kayla, you're Diddy Kong. You
Speaker 4: it's on you. We don't have any fucking balloons or anything.
Speaker 4: You gotta do this like super stressful fun, like it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I haven't played a good platformer in a while.
Speaker 2: Me neither. I feel like I'm due for like a
Speaker 2: good platformer, and I love co op platformers, and I
Speaker 2: think those are good. Co op platformers are hard to find.
Speaker 4: I keep thinking about a blue Sky posts I saw
Speaker 4: from you know, Jake Steinberg from Kataku.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw him post that.
Speaker 4: He was like, uh, because he's a younger guy and
Speaker 4: I've met him at the night shows that we do
Speaker 4: a giant bom. We fed him on the couch a
Speaker 4: couple of times, and he said something like boy, games
Speaker 4: industry or games media old heads will glaze platformers just
Speaker 4: for existing. I was like, yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 4: what he was referred to. I mean this was like
Speaker 4: like a few weeks ago, so I think it's past
Speaker 4: astrobot and I remember seeing that being like, yep, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's right. I think we all just came up like
Speaker 4: guys that are like forty and above we're just we
Speaker 4: remember Mario and that's when we fell in love with games,
Speaker 4: and now it's just platformers being around.
Speaker 3: We're like hell yeah, And I was like, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: not wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah I disagree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like jumping on stuff.
Speaker 1: One of the best games ever made, though, Astrobot.
Speaker 3: That's true. Are you being sarcastic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, very much.
Speaker 3: So you don't think it's one of the best games
Speaker 3: I ever made?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: No, uh sure, extremely well crafted platformer. I have nothing
Speaker 1: to add that I didn't already say on the episode
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: If I had tiles on it, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well then that would be a different story.
Speaker 4: Would blow into the controller? No, you don't blow into
Speaker 4: the controller. That was the we you and the three DS.
Speaker 2: You got to shake the controller.
Speaker 3: You don't really know. That's not a gimmick, it's just
Speaker 3: a great plan.
Speaker 1: There's no sprinkles all over the ice cream levels.
Speaker 2: So many fun fetties on the level.
Speaker 1: I could double jump in time twiles compete with Jeff
Speaker 1: week one.
Speaker 3: There's no double jump I can.
Speaker 4: You're saying a bunch of inaccurate things about one of
Speaker 4: the best games of all time.
Speaker 1: You can double jump with the feet.
Speaker 4: Rockets okay it certain items power ups will give you abilities, yes,
Speaker 4: but Astrobot cannot double jump, he can hover.
Speaker 1: These items are not gimmicks at all. The great gameplay innovations.
Speaker 2: And there they really have constructed brilliant character designs, like
Speaker 2: all the other games from PlayStation that they've just shoved
Speaker 2: in here.
Speaker 1: I like PlayStation from the nineties, so I like when
Speaker 1: they call back to it. I used to jack off
Speaker 1: to Laura Croft and this reminds me of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I like Estra.
Speaker 2: But I'm an Astrobot.
Speaker 6: God.
Speaker 1: That's why Mark liked it too. I enjoyed that game,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't that good. Why are you playing Crimson
Speaker 1: Skies the x punishment?
Speaker 4: Yes, the Xbox game. It's my punishment from Mike Manatti.
Speaker 1: What's a punishment?
Speaker 4: We did a charity race for La Wildfire Relief on
Speaker 4: last Friday as of this recording, where four of us, Me, Grubb, Sean,
Speaker 4: and Manati raced in Bowser's Fury Uh to see who
Speaker 4: could beat it from beginning to credits in one sitting
Speaker 4: and Manati one and we decided like it was just
Speaker 4: such a positive experience. It's positive stream and everything and
Speaker 4: we're like, oh, we want to have a fun so
Speaker 4: like the winner gets to pick homework games for the
Speaker 4: three losers. And the deal is it's like it's not
Speaker 4: a blake club thing where it's like it's a bad
Speaker 4: game or it's a punishment or whatever where you have
Speaker 4: to stream all this on your own time. It's you
Speaker 4: play it however you want to, but it's got to
Speaker 4: be a game that's not super long and that you
Speaker 4: really like that you're giving to someone who has never
Speaker 4: played it before. So you know, Grub hasn't played Grim Fandango,
Speaker 4: so that's what he's playing. And for me, he gave
Speaker 4: Crimson Skies because he thought I would like it, and
Speaker 4: sure enough, I like it a lot. It's very much
Speaker 4: reminds me of that old kind of tistbox. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't remember if it was a launch game or not,
Speaker 4: but I just love like I love those only a twist,
Speaker 4: The Metal Warhawk. You know these games where it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, you're just a vehicle like an arena where
Speaker 4: it's totally a rogue squadron type thing where it's like
Speaker 4: here it's this area and just fly around and you
Speaker 4: have certain objectives, like there's a weird amount of variety
Speaker 4: in it, like like twist the metal and stuff. It
Speaker 4: was always just like, hey, kill all these cars, this
Speaker 4: has kill all these planes, but also deliver this fragile thing.
Speaker 4: You know, here's a gyrocopter. You're gonna deliver this fragile
Speaker 4: thing through a canyon. You got to protect this plane.
Speaker 4: You got to escort this zeppelin. But you can also
Speaker 4: man the turrets on the zeppelin and flip. Like, there's
Speaker 4: a fun amount of variety here that I didn't expect.
Speaker 1: Several playable characters, right, I don't know if.
Speaker 3: It's characters as much as planes.
Speaker 4: Like I'm always the same dude, but like I am
Speaker 4: unlocking new planes, and you earn cash, and like there's
Speaker 4: collectibles and that let you unlock new upgrades and stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's fun like finding the plane that works
Speaker 4: with your style the most, and the controls work fairly
Speaker 4: well for a game that's, you know, over twenty years old.
Speaker 4: Looks fine. It's very very backwards compatible on Xbox. It's
Speaker 4: on game Pass. I heard I had great Xbox Live support,
Speaker 4: one of the early early Xbox Live games. But I've
Speaker 4: just been doing single player and yeah, absolutely, I've really
Speaker 4: really been liking it, so and I like this idea
Speaker 4: of the punishment because I'm so used to like, Okay,
Speaker 4: the winner gets to pick this tortuous, fucking horrible thing
Speaker 4: that the loser has to do, and this is like,
Speaker 4: oh we got this.
Speaker 3: When would I have played this otherwise?
Speaker 4: And now I've got this homework assignment like it, So
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this is this is a fun way
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: So who came up with punishment that seems like a
Speaker 2: minati situation?
Speaker 3: He might have come up with the term.
Speaker 4: I don't remember how we got to It was just
Speaker 4: one of those natural things where we were talking about
Speaker 4: it and we all kind of wound up there.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we should do that.
Speaker 1: At some point. Sign me a game. Well I probably
Speaker 1: won't play it, but you could. Well.
Speaker 3: We tried with Mary, but then she just played a
Speaker 3: totally different game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, blamed us for recommending a game that we don't like.
Speaker 2: I thought we hadn't moved on as a podcast.
Speaker 3: From this the last episode.
Speaker 2: You got bragging rights, though, go forward in your life.
Speaker 3: We're trying to give you a punishment.
Speaker 2: I yeah, we did as you or I had between worlds,
Speaker 2: as I tend to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, play Link between Worlds.
Speaker 1: Play Link between Worlds. It's really good, really really really good.
Speaker 1: Top five Zelda Skyward Sort Mary. Have you played all
Speaker 1: of the Middle Girl Solids O Skyward Sword.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't played it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. You streaming Medal Year would be.
Speaker 4: I love watching people play Medal Year solid that I
Speaker 4: have not played it because it's just so fucking bad shit.
Speaker 3: I would love if you played that and then we
Speaker 3: get your reports. Do a report.
Speaker 1: Yes, she sounds so enthused.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot to talk about with that series.
Speaker 2: To be like, I feel like I'd have to find
Speaker 2: like a real like open time to play that dealing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're not controls. Yeah, people struggle with
Speaker 4: the controls if they come back to it now. I
Speaker 4: mean most of.
Speaker 3: Those games eight hours. Yeah, they're not crazy long.
Speaker 1: At some point doing.
Speaker 4: Well, you an hour or you got to do before
Speaker 4: episode one hundred, because you're gonna be hearing a lot
Speaker 4: about Metal Year during that.
Speaker 3: I don't owe you ship, No, you don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: You should have played the game we already suggested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got Yeah. Next time we recommend something, don't
Speaker 1: just go off into the wilderness. And play something we
Speaker 1: said don't play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: This one, I think I've played. I played this one
Speaker 2: because it has the worm that you hit the tail.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a common thing.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.
Speaker 3: That's the link to the past Muldos or whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh no, the guy who you rent the items from,
Speaker 1: and that's a rabbit. Oh that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mold Orm is what I'm thinking of. The sword
Speaker 4: or the worm he's got, Like.
Speaker 1: I love the Hamburg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fun Hamburg.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, God switch to just needs Twilet Princess and
Speaker 1: Winwaker and I'm there. Well I'm there anyway, but like
Speaker 1: I really want Yeah, they're both good. I like Toilet
Speaker 1: Princess too, but like, uh, the beginning really is very
Speaker 1: very slow, and also it's got a lot of arbitrary gating,
Speaker 1: like oh, this bridge is broken, so you got to
Speaker 1: go back and talk to that character from back there,
Speaker 1: and then you've got to sumo wrestle the Mayor, and
Speaker 1: then you gotta a lot go back and talk to Sorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you did that knock arena. We got a call
Speaker 1: back to.
Speaker 4: That when we're having just played Windwaker in the last year.
Speaker 4: That holds up extremely Well, that was.
Speaker 1: Even better now with the new sailing and map and
Speaker 1: updated uh travel anybody else play? Aything else?
Speaker 7: Mary?
Speaker 1: You played Spiro when you're sick?
Speaker 2: I got sick this weekend, three day weekend, and I
Speaker 2: didn't feel good and I needed a comfort game, so
Speaker 2: I downloaded Spiro blamed. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 2: It's really nice. It's just basically like all the things
Speaker 2: you like about Spiro, but it's delicately upgraded with nicer
Speaker 2: graphics and it it feels great. The controls feel just
Speaker 2: like when I was a kid. I kind of forgot.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys played. Did you guys
Speaker 2: both play Spiro?
Speaker 1: Kayla?
Speaker 4: Kyla was obsessed with it, and I remember I was like, game, well,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. I was like a teenager, and so
Speaker 4: I'd see Caleb, Oh, this is some shitty, you know,
Speaker 4: kitty dragon game thing whatever. And then the Regnited trilogy
Speaker 4: comes out and I play it. I'm like, Oh, I
Speaker 4: fucking love all these games.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really good.
Speaker 3: I would say, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's simple, right, Like you're a baby dragon who can
Speaker 2: kind of fly but not really, and you got to
Speaker 2: get all of the gemmys and they hide them in
Speaker 2: like hard to platform places. So but if you're stupid
Speaker 2: or like not good at games, you can just not
Speaker 2: get those. You don't have to hundred percent the levels.
Speaker 2: So it's nice as an adult to go back to
Speaker 2: it and be like this actually was kind of tough
Speaker 2: to get to these little areas, like they've hidden everything,
Speaker 2: but if you don't feel like figuring it out, you
Speaker 2: just don't do it and you just move on and
Speaker 2: get the other dinosaurs or whatever they are.
Speaker 4: You just I love that about platformers of that era,
Speaker 4: Like you know, like Mario sixty four is like, look,
Speaker 4: if you want to do one hundred and twenty stars, yeah,
Speaker 4: I have a blast. But if you hate Hazy May's cave,
Speaker 4: don't fucking go there and just get your star somewhere else,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Greial loser. I think it's great that they've like casually
Speaker 2: let you decide how in you want to be, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's it's been really nice. I'm very early
Speaker 2: on in, but like as a sick couch game, I
Speaker 2: was loving it, So yeah, I'm back.
Speaker 3: I did notice. Yeah, you were on Instagram.
Speaker 4: I say, you do some stories where you're watching old
Speaker 4: Simpsons and I would like, look at the same deck
Speaker 4: screen as course she's playing Spiro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I inspiral, like I think it's Spiro.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was watching my favorite seasons as well.
Speaker 4: So I was watching like Dalmatians one the Domination that's
Speaker 4: really good.
Speaker 2: And the one where Homer goes to clown College. Like really,
Speaker 2: they make me laugh, they make me so happy, they're
Speaker 2: so funny. And I was doing that in Spirro and
Speaker 2: I think so I posted those and I saw someone
Speaker 2: DM and be like, you know how to do mental
Speaker 2: health better than anyone I know. I was like, I
Speaker 2: think that's true. Like I when I don't feel good,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sitting on this couch, I'm making a tea.
Speaker 2: I'm getting my dog who will always loyally like sit
Speaker 2: in my lap when I'm not well. I think you
Speaker 2: have one of those two by the dog who's just like,
Speaker 2: what are you not good? I will behave your side.
Speaker 2: I will not move from this spot because you need
Speaker 2: me and I just.
Speaker 3: Want me tucked under your arm. I can just stay
Speaker 3: here all day. What do you want?
Speaker 2: I will sit there. He's such a good boy, and
Speaker 2: I will watch old Simpsons and I'm happy, and that
Speaker 2: is a great place for me to just mentally and
Speaker 2: physically repair and damn it, I am back. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that was such a good doctor's orders. Man.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, I play fire Emblem when I'm sick.
Speaker 1: Something about it. It's just enough, like requires just enough
Speaker 1: brain power to sort of like be cognizant. But then
Speaker 1: also there's like the satisfying character building and the tactics
Speaker 1: and whatnot.
Speaker 3: The tactics yet yes.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I need deep tactics.
Speaker 3: When you jump on some turtles and sleep.
Speaker 1: No, that makes menous, That makes me naucious. Want do emails, jure. Okay,
Speaker 1: we are going to get to emails. But before that,
Speaker 1: and before we get to the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: we do have a couple of upcoming fun stuff to
Speaker 1: tell people about. Firstly, this is episode ninety nine, and
Speaker 1: for all you math nerds out there, next episode will
Speaker 1: be one hundred. Oh yeah, Okay, we've referenced it several times,
Speaker 1: but now we can officially say episode hundred is not
Speaker 1: going to be a normal format. We are going to
Speaker 1: be doing a sixty four game bracket tournament to battle
Speaker 1: out and decide what is fire Escape Casts Collective, or rather,
Speaker 1: whoever can argue best what is our best game of
Speaker 1: all time? So we all basically nominated twenty five games each.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's going to be some overlap, especially with Red
Speaker 1: Dead two being so high on DAN lists along with
Speaker 1: Holli Night. We're gonna figure out nix any the doubles
Speaker 1: and then maybe bring in a few like honorable mentions
Speaker 1: that almost made it, just to make the show more interesting.
Speaker 1: But Mary's putting together a bracket. We're gonna do it
Speaker 1: in the sense that we don't know. We're gonna randomize
Speaker 1: the first round, so it could be like Bloodborne versus
Speaker 1: Hollow Night, which would be seeded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not seated at all. It's gonna be totally random.
Speaker 2: And I've already set the tone that I am not
Speaker 2: going to undo it if you're like, that's not fair,
Speaker 2: because these are both games that I really like.
Speaker 4: Tough no, no, no, it's whatever. However the dice fall, and
Speaker 4: then we're not.
Speaker 2: Speaking to you. I'm just saying the rules. I'm going
Speaker 2: to be in the bracket and they're going to be constructed,
Speaker 2: and if you don't like it, like that's that, that's
Speaker 2: not my problem.
Speaker 4: You are furnaces responding to your anger. Because my furnace
Speaker 4: kicked on as soon as you got mad at me.
Speaker 2: I don't think that me and that furnace are related,
Speaker 2: but I do think that my blood pressure rises every
Speaker 2: time I hear that fucking whistle coming out of your
Speaker 2: stupid bye wear a sweater. You're wearing a T shirt
Speaker 2: is January?
Speaker 3: I'm inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any he's got the furnace on.
Speaker 2: The dead of winner in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It just happens to sound like a grieving Eagle who
Speaker 1: lost its cubs.
Speaker 3: That's our football team, the Minnesota grieving Eagles.
Speaker 2: Someone squeezing the life out of a small chinchilla.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it happens herea but yeah, that'll be episode
Speaker 1: one hundred. It'll be on the normal schedule, so it'll
Speaker 1: be what February third, tenth, We'll have that up episode hundred.
Speaker 2: Just so everybody knows how we got to this list
Speaker 2: of sixty four is. I asked the boys to put
Speaker 2: together a list of their top twenty fives.
Speaker 1: That just gives a ballpark.
Speaker 2: I'm repeating it, And I recently checked this list of
Speaker 2: all of the games, and Mike put games on my
Speaker 2: list that I did not run. And I'd like to
Speaker 2: read some of these.
Speaker 1: That I did not do that. You wrote all these.
Speaker 2: I did not write these.
Speaker 1: Appropriate like I would like for radio.
Speaker 2: That's on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put them down, don't.
Speaker 1: Get the bee button potentially ready.
Speaker 2: So for our top twenty five, I wrote half Life, two,
Speaker 2: Hollow Night, they should shock No. One Years of War,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Mike Tyson's punch out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did not put that. I did not
Speaker 3: put that by the great, great big Mary.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I left my heart in the Pacific Northwest. That's not
Speaker 2: a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. You wrote it. Take it up with Yeah,
Speaker 1: you we know you love it.
Speaker 2: As Boy goes to Dumb Town.
Speaker 3: That one is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was the classic sixty.
Speaker 2: Four lobster sniper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to taste so far.
Speaker 2: They have really good ball physics and lobsters. Heard that.
Speaker 2: I've heard that Revenge of the Frog, prins Ass Boy
Speaker 2: goes to dump down three Midnight Noctors.
Speaker 3: Right, you didn't like two. It was like a Devil
Speaker 3: May Cry situation.
Speaker 1: I really was a step back. Yeah, they got back
Speaker 1: on track with three. Return to form.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these are personal.
Speaker 2: Grenades that explode into bubble.
Speaker 3: Little violent, but that's that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I started as a flash game, but they they
Speaker 1: actually made a like a full game.
Speaker 8: We Yeah, Blanket Simulator. I would really like that game.
Speaker 2: Blanket Simulator remake. Oh yeah, Baking Saga twenty two Nights
Speaker 2: of Pumpkin Pie.
Speaker 3: I have not seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really looking forward to arguing and ringover Baking Simulator Saga.
Speaker 2: You guys are bad friends.
Speaker 3: I didn't do this. It's the first time I'm seeing it.
Speaker 1: He left blank spaces. What was I supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Baking Saga Reflex two point five x D two D.
Speaker 1: We almost gave that worst title of the year a
Speaker 1: few years ago.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god. Oh this is a nice one,
Speaker 2: solid night nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that drunk Gymnast Physics.
Speaker 1: It's the spiritual successor to Mount your Friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Junior Year returned to Cincinnati. It's very close. Dare
Speaker 2: help My French bulldog thinks he's a member of the
Speaker 2: Viet Cong.
Speaker 1: It was a really specific indie game that someone made,
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: Yep, got DLC for Razor my dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's an American soldier with a flamethrower.
Speaker 3: Oh the horror.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Portland series Portland Stories part four. It's just disrespectful to
Speaker 2: my home.
Speaker 1: It really came together in the fourth game.
Speaker 2: Puzzle game with really innovative mechanics.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that. That was good. Are there
Speaker 1: any Are there any more good ones?
Speaker 2: Hell Divers too easy mode? Only this one was surprising
Speaker 2: NBA two K twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was just yeah the time my.
Speaker 2: Phone is at the bottom of the will Lammett But
Speaker 2: I still have so many friends to text.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good, You're an asshole. Game was good, but yeah,
Speaker 1: episode one hundred. So those who knows which one of
Speaker 1: those will be duking it out with some of mine
Speaker 1: or some of Dan's. And again, who's to say there's
Speaker 1: gonna be brack many brackets where one of Dan's games
Speaker 1: pops up against one of Mary's. It's not about our
Speaker 1: games winning, it's about arguing whatever the two happened to
Speaker 1: be at that moment, all the rest of the brown
Speaker 1: games into the background.
Speaker 4: No, we're gonna determine fire Escape's best game of all time.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's not a competition, well I mean literally
Speaker 1: as a tournament, but like.
Speaker 3: It's it's our collective choice.
Speaker 1: Though it's gonna be I'm gonna laugh if marry, all
Speaker 1: of your games go up against one another and you
Speaker 1: have we we just have to listen to you argue.
Speaker 3: Me having to argue all these metal years and Marios
Speaker 3: against each other.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah, but yeah, that'll be
Speaker 1: episode one hundred and then one last thing some last
Speaker 1: minute not last minute, some final details are still coming together.
Speaker 1: But We've got a fun bonus series planned that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be doing with Vinnie Caravella from Nextlander.
Speaker 2: That's so good, what a good group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Vinnie.
Speaker 2: I don't love Vinnie. Could you imagine someone who comes
Speaker 2: up to you and they're like, we have all the
Speaker 2: same things. I think we're gonna be great friends. Just
Speaker 2: one thing, I hate Vinnie.
Speaker 4: Awesome and except the gossipy, ass drama filled industry of
Speaker 4: games media, Vinnie Caravella is one of one of the
Speaker 4: only people I've ever met that I've never heard anyone
Speaker 4: say anything bad about.
Speaker 2: We're actually all bad people except for Vinnie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vinnie is beloved by all, and for good reason.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he has been wanting. He grabbed basically the
Speaker 1: Total war Warhammer trilogy on sale, so basically it's generally
Speaker 1: going to work where we're doing two separate camp co
Speaker 1: op campaigns, one of which fire Escape. If you're already
Speaker 1: a eight dollar tier patron, you're signed up, you can
Speaker 1: watch this. We're gonna do u in our off weeks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna publish one episode at a time, like one
Speaker 1: hour a time, where Vinnie and I are playing a
Speaker 1: good quote unquote campaign as like some of the Order
Speaker 1: Forces they're called it in Warhammer. I'm gonna walk. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kind of be Vinnie's guru. And then if you're
Speaker 1: already a patron for Next Lander there, I think they're
Speaker 1: ten dollars tier, we're doing a separate campaign over there
Speaker 1: as evil forces maybe orcs, maybe vampires, maybe vampire pirates. Basically,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be showing Vinnie the ropes while we do
Speaker 1: a co op campaign. But if you're not a Next
Speaker 1: Lander patron and you just want to stick to fire Escape,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to see all the episodes of our campaign.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. If you are you listen to Firescape,
Speaker 1: but you're a Next Lander patron, you don't need to
Speaker 1: come and be a patron for us. You'll see that
Speaker 1: whole campaign. But if you want to see both of them,
Speaker 1: and see like me and Vinnie hanging out, or hear
Speaker 1: me and Vinnie hanging out playing a game that I
Speaker 1: talk about too much, but people here tune out when
Speaker 1: I talk about it. Then come see what I'm raving about.
Speaker 1: We're aiming for mid February, mid to late February, we'll say.
Speaker 1: Once we get closer, we'll give final details so people know,
Speaker 1: just especially with the subscription pricing now with Patreon, if
Speaker 1: you want to like plan the data sign up before
Speaker 1: it goes live, we'll be sure to publish that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: onto emails. We have a shit ton of emails in
Speaker 1: our inbox. Thank you everybody, keep those coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for doing that again.
Speaker 1: This firescape cast at gmail dot com. For any questions
Speaker 1: you want read on the air, We've got several tonight
Speaker 1: as usual, Dan, I think this one actually makes sense
Speaker 1: for you to take from Wayne.
Speaker 4: I was muted, all right, from Wayne. I have to
Speaker 4: assume the subject line was Macgrueber. Is that the case
Speaker 4: because I don't see it in the body.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's so funny, But the body of the email
Speaker 2: just what a great recommendation and movie, And Dan is like, well,
Speaker 2: this is obviously macgober it has.
Speaker 3: To be ya Hey.
Speaker 4: After years of listening specifically to Dan throughout the years,
Speaker 4: I finally decided this past week to finally watch this movie.
Speaker 4: I don't remember the last time I laughed so much
Speaker 4: and so hard at a movie. So I'm wondering if
Speaker 4: you all have more suggestions of movies like this, Wayne.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to hear that.
Speaker 4: I think like people probably assume it's like a bit
Speaker 4: because if I always bring it up, like no, it's
Speaker 4: as legitimate as it gets. It's my favorite comedy of
Speaker 4: all time by a long shot.
Speaker 1: Looks at it now and she she's got a pretty
Speaker 1: like she she was laughing like I've never heard her
Speaker 1: laugh that hard.
Speaker 4: It's the hardest I've ever laughed at a movie. It's
Speaker 4: the movie I've seen the most by far. Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: a reason I talk about all the time. Wayne, I
Speaker 4: would say, I don't think there's any beating mcgroober, But
Speaker 4: the first one that I think of is by a
Speaker 4: lot of the same people.
Speaker 2: Fortunately, you've peaked. There's nothing better than Kruber. Dan said, you.
Speaker 3: Can stop watching movies. You can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're looking at like it says do you
Speaker 4: have any more suggestions of movies like this because you
Speaker 4: said that, Wayne, I would say pop Star because it's
Speaker 4: like the Lonely Island guys.
Speaker 3: I think this is it.
Speaker 4: A Kiva might direct pop Star and Doorma Yorma directed mcgroober.
Speaker 4: But it's definitely the like Lonely Island sensibilities and things
Speaker 4: like that. Pop Stars obviously heavier in the like Samberg
Speaker 4: type stuff where they brought it in Will Forte for
Speaker 4: uh mcgroover, But pop Star is insane, very funny.
Speaker 3: It's I think pop Star.
Speaker 4: Won't age as well as mcgroober because pop Star does
Speaker 4: rely on a bunch of you know, stars of the day.
Speaker 4: When what was it like twenty twelve or twenty thirteen
Speaker 4: when it came out.
Speaker 3: Actually now that I thing. But I bet like Ditty's
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 4: I bet it's like a lot of like oh it
Speaker 4: was like mcgroober is pretty much just like holds up
Speaker 4: extremely well. Pop Star is very funny. I know a
Speaker 4: lot of people would say hot Rod because again it's
Speaker 4: that like Lonely Island style.
Speaker 3: I liked hot Rod. I only saw that one time.
Speaker 1: It's more so funny it is the rest of their
Speaker 1: stuff Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing's hit like mcgrober for me, But I would
Speaker 4: say pop Star if you're looking for like that vibe
Speaker 4: of comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not the exact same kind of comedy,
Speaker 1: but where you get in the sense that you get
Speaker 1: a big cast of people that are all just like
Speaker 1: in on it and going hard on the humor or
Speaker 1: the specific kind of humor. If you haven't seen What
Speaker 1: Hot American Summer, that is very dumb humor in many ways.
Speaker 1: I still think that What Hot American Summer is worth
Speaker 1: watching today, and it's got you know, if you haven't seen,
Speaker 1: it's Bradley Cooper, Amy Poehler, Paul Rudd, Michael Ian Black,
Speaker 1: David Wayne directed it. But it's it's like The Role
Speaker 1: Model's Crew back when I think they were still very funny.
Speaker 1: Now there's the prequel and Squel series on Netflix, which
Speaker 1: I actually find both very funny as well. But What
Speaker 1: Hot American Summer has like a similar dumb humor, although
Speaker 1: some of that that most of that humor is actually dumb.
Speaker 1: Were mcgruber is like really intelligent jokes that are told
Speaker 1: in a dumb way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mcgroober is simultaneously incredibly smart, incredibly stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Another person I would really recommend is Edgar Wright, who
Speaker 2: is a filmmaker who makes a lot of spoof or
Speaker 2: like kind of joke style films that are just excellent,
Speaker 2: most known for shan of the Dead, but the trilogy
Speaker 2: of they're not in the same universe. It's the same
Speaker 2: character actors of like Shawna the Dead, Hot Fuzz, and
Speaker 2: World's End are all excellent, very funny films and they're
Speaker 2: just so well made. And I also think like Edgar
Speaker 2: Wright is brilliant for visual comedy, so he's not just
Speaker 2: it's not just the jokes of the characters being idiots,
Speaker 2: but it's like Edgar Wright is doing visual commentary that
Speaker 2: is so enjoyable for comedy. And I just I really
Speaker 2: recommend Edgar Wright for anyone who's like I just want
Speaker 2: to laugh and watch stupid people be stupid. And it's
Speaker 2: just like watch Shanna the Dead. It's a brilliant film.
Speaker 2: But like, if you like that, you'll like Hot Fuzz.
Speaker 2: And if you like Hot Fuzz, you'll like World's End.
Speaker 4: So that's World End I never saw, but I did
Speaker 4: love Shanna the Dead Hot Fuzz.
Speaker 3: I've been meaning to watch.
Speaker 2: It's not as beloved, but it's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's like it's funny. I love Hot Fuzz. I think
Speaker 1: Hot Fuzz is the funniest of those three. He also
Speaker 1: did Baby Driver and then Being an Anya Teller Joy
Speaker 1: Last Night, soho, but which.
Speaker 2: Is total deviation. It's not very that one's not very funny, but.
Speaker 1: It is funny. World's End is like extremely profound and
Speaker 1: like a really well written story that caught me off
Speaker 1: guard because again it is part of that trilogy. And
Speaker 1: then you know, they all go back to their hometown
Speaker 1: and there's the one guy who stayed there, and like
Speaker 1: they're planning this pub crawl that they used to do
Speaker 1: when they were younger, and it's a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who've gotten older. I actually kind of I feel like
Speaker 1: it would hit me even harder if I watch it now,
Speaker 1: because I haven't watched it in four years. World's End
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. I gotta go back to that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I think that it's really I mean, Edgar
Speaker 2: Wright is such a brilliant filmmaker of our time, and
Speaker 2: I do I think that they are obviously appreciated, but
Speaker 2: I think generally we just don't think of him when
Speaker 2: we think of like brilliant filmmakers. I think he's I
Speaker 2: think he's genius, but maybe he does get the credit.
Speaker 1: I don't know now he's I think like I rewatched
Speaker 1: Baby Driver recently, which is not as much of a comedy.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot more. The second time I did,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: Not like it.
Speaker 1: I rewatched it and holy Ship, like it's infectious the
Speaker 1: energy to it, And now that I knew what I
Speaker 1: was getting into, I was like, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: enjoy this on a visual purely visual and like musical
Speaker 1: soundtrack sense. Kevin Spacey being in like a prominent role
Speaker 1: is not super fun, but like it's a really well
Speaker 1: made movie.
Speaker 2: Although John Ham's chastly. They just lived life.
Speaker 4: And speaking of that, I did look up the cameo
Speaker 4: list on pop Star because I was like, what is
Speaker 4: Diddy in that?
Speaker 1: And no, what is that?
Speaker 3: Largely not canceled.
Speaker 4: It's like oh Big Boy and Nas and Questlove and
Speaker 4: Seal and the Riza, Like, yeah, nobody canceled that.
Speaker 3: I see here, so don't uh that like.
Speaker 2: Twitter account or whatever is like did the Dog Die?
Speaker 3: Which, oh yeah, is Didy in?
Speaker 1: It is Diddy in?
Speaker 2: It is like the New one.
Speaker 1: There's like how to beat dot Com for video games.
Speaker 1: That's how long till Diddy dot Com?
Speaker 3: Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen was in puff Star. I don't
Speaker 3: know that at all. Change weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, good, good, good films.
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, thank you, Wayne.
Speaker 3: Ah Uh.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll read this one. Actually, no, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: You would be so good as like the host of
Speaker 2: Hollywood Squares.
Speaker 1: I'll read this one.
Speaker 4: If Mike get the game show hosting gig before me,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaker 1: Who says, oh, I'm not. You make a good point, Oh, Dan,
Speaker 1: I deserve everything that I ever wanted because so hard
Speaker 1: I need to be a I can beat punch out.
Speaker 2: So if anyone gets as a job, it's me.
Speaker 1: I have fancy Vinyl floors, so I need to They're blessing.
Speaker 1: We know. I'm owed everything.
Speaker 3: That's my catchphrase. I'm O everything, all right, High Fire
Speaker 3: Escape Crew.
Speaker 1: Uhar, I'm not sure if I'm I'm not completely sure
Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing that. Apologies if I am. Butazar from
Speaker 1: Scotland here just riding in to say that you auto
Speaker 1: ride slash follow in Red Dead two when you switch
Speaker 1: to the cinematic camera. This should also work when you
Speaker 1: have a waypoint marker on the map. It's been a
Speaker 1: while since I touched it, but I'm pretty sure it's there.
Speaker 1: It makes the ridy talking bit's a bit more cinematic
Speaker 1: and gives your hand arrest. Also, if you just hold
Speaker 1: the sprint button when riding, not mashing, your horse will
Speaker 1: evade trees and rocks. My question is, what is a
Speaker 1: setting slash feature in a game that when someone told
Speaker 1: you about it, made you play that game differently. It
Speaker 1: didn't change my opinion of the game. I always loved
Speaker 1: Returnal Jacob Geller someone told him about this mechanic and
Speaker 1: he tweeted about it. There's an always sprint function in
Speaker 1: that game where you don't ever walk because you don't
Speaker 1: ever need to walk in that game, really yeah, and
Speaker 1: you just anytime you move the ole stiction Selene sprints
Speaker 1: And I was like, why it didn't necessarily, I just
Speaker 1: didn't know it was there. It didn't make me play
Speaker 1: the game differently. So it's not the best answer, but
Speaker 1: that is a specific mechanic that happened semi recently. Outside
Speaker 1: of that, though, I'm trying to think of something where
Speaker 1: I either didn't know, like, holy shit, I played that
Speaker 1: whole game, didn't realize that was a thing.
Speaker 3: I definitely had this a lot where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: make sure you turn on.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah right now, we can also come back.
Speaker 2: It's nice.
Speaker 1: Was stopping you from reading it? I worked on the
Speaker 1: stock at noon today. You could have read it at
Speaker 1: any point.
Speaker 2: Isn't that during work hours?
Speaker 4: Michael?
Speaker 1: It was, I swear to god, I was looking at
Speaker 1: I was. I was writing too. We can come back
Speaker 1: to it if we're on the spot, which is, we'll
Speaker 1: come back to it, saysar. We will be back. So
Speaker 1: just keep put that. Put that back in your noggin. Mary,
Speaker 1: do you want to read this one from Marcel from
Speaker 1: the Netherlands?
Speaker 2: Sure? Hi there. Thank you for your bi weekly escapades
Speaker 2: and escapism. You're welcome. Mike's raving review of the entirety
Speaker 2: of what we do in the Shadows prompted me to
Speaker 2: finally write in and ask a question I find. I
Speaker 2: recently bought new headphones, specifically because of one of the
Speaker 2: voice options has Matt Barry shouting noise canceling and.
Speaker 3: Power on HAU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. He always has an inflection at
Speaker 2: the end right, that's like his thing. Yeah, at the
Speaker 2: press of a button. That alone was enough for me
Speaker 2: to spend a couple of one hundred euros, even though
Speaker 2: I already own a pair of headphones that are arguably better.
Speaker 2: Was it worth it? Probably not? That I am happy, nonetheless,
Speaker 2: so I'm wondering, what's the stupid thing you bought on
Speaker 2: impulse which brings you joy to this day? Marcel from
Speaker 2: the Netherlands, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: I feel like Dan's entire every.
Speaker 2: Everything that Dan owns it is stupid, ship provides joy.
Speaker 2: Why don't you pick anything? Do you pick the closest
Speaker 2: thing that's in your arms distance?
Speaker 3: There's just no this is all adult, normal stuff.
Speaker 2: I what is that?
Speaker 4: It's an anti static wristband? Because it's shocking myself on
Speaker 4: my treadmill.
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Oh does it have the metal where you can
Speaker 1: hold it for your heart rate?
Speaker 3: I don't know how to make it work, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, that's useful. I don't have any like Macaroni sweatshirts.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't buy those.
Speaker 4: I mean my xbox here is Bojangles branded, but yeah,
Speaker 4: you didn't buy that. It's got to be an impulse
Speaker 4: buy a lot of stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so much stupid stuff. Name anything that you own.
Speaker 2: This shouldn't be that complicated.
Speaker 4: I got that Kwan Chi framed photo, but that was
Speaker 4: Walgreens had a free eight by ten print out.
Speaker 1: Oh actually, I have perfect one. Amanda and I were
Speaker 1: up in Syracuse seeing my family, and I forget why.
Speaker 1: I think Amanda may have been just starting to get
Speaker 1: sick because we were around eleven kids for the whole
Speaker 1: weekend and we were at the train stations. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: at the train station in Syracuse, and she was just
Speaker 1: not in a great mood because she wasn't feeling well.
Speaker 1: We were at a train station in Syracuse, so I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll be here back. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get us dunk Donuts across the platform. So I
Speaker 1: go over there and there's this if you've been to
Speaker 1: to this train station, anybody from up there, there's this
Speaker 1: gift shop that's just the most insane room anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world, full of imagine like a gift shop in
Speaker 1: Midtown and New York with all the I love New
Speaker 1: York hats, but also meets like there are bags of
Speaker 1: caramel corn randomly hanging between all the hats. So I
Speaker 1: just bought this flat brim baseball cap, all black, green brim,
Speaker 1: and it just says Jamaica across it. And I came
Speaker 1: back to Amanda on the other side of platform wearing
Speaker 1: the hat, just to make her laugh. And now it
Speaker 1: still hangs prominently in my closet and I.
Speaker 3: Still see it.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an expensive thing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like it's just a silly item that brings
Speaker 2: you joy and that's its only purpose, and that's what
Speaker 2: sometimes items are. I actually think we should normalize the
Speaker 2: idea that you can buy something that isn't important and
Speaker 2: it's not expensive, but it was something that it brought
Speaker 2: you some joy. I like a state sailing. That's actually
Speaker 2: something I intended doing as like a hobby. And I
Speaker 2: often find myself searching for estate sales on like a
Speaker 2: Saturday or Sunday morning, and I'll drive to a couple
Speaker 2: of them and just see what kind of crap I
Speaker 2: can find. And it's really fun when I find something
Speaker 2: silly and stupid. I've been on a frog kick recently,
Speaker 2: so I bought a frog container. It's got like twenty
Speaker 2: frogs that are all just looking up and it looks
Speaker 2: like they're praying.
Speaker 3: I bought it.
Speaker 2: I got that in my house now. But one of
Speaker 2: my recent finds that brings me a lot of joy
Speaker 2: is I went to a person's house that was obviously
Speaker 2: like really into cats. I love that at stay sales,
Speaker 2: you'll be like, this guy was a giraffe guy, because
Speaker 2: everything's a fucking giraffe. This person was a cat person
Speaker 2: and their backyard was nothing but cat planters cat They
Speaker 2: like shaved their bushes to look like cats. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And they had a giant concrete cat statue that kind
Speaker 2: of looks like a zen garden but it's just a round,
Speaker 2: fat cat. And I was like, I gotta have it.
Speaker 2: But it's like concrete and it's pretty big, and so
Speaker 2: I was a little nervous that, like when I would
Speaker 2: go to the there wasn't a price on it. So
Speaker 2: I like went up to the guy and I was like,
Speaker 2: it's a how you had this concrete cat. It has
Speaker 2: a couple of chips in it. What do you want
Speaker 2: for it? And I was thinking to myself, this guy's
Speaker 2: gonna be like minimum, like one hundred dollars just concrete cat.
Speaker 2: And he was like, would you do twenty?
Speaker 1: And I was like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there I am dragging this car. It's as
Speaker 2: big as Pikachu behind me. It's like it's up to
Speaker 2: my fucking thigh. I'm dragging this concrete cat car. I
Speaker 2: needed help. I had to get help from the other
Speaker 2: people who like run the estate sale. I buckled it
Speaker 2: into my back seat like a baby, took it home,
Speaker 2: and I put it in my backyard. It's it's coveted
Speaker 2: in my backyard. I absolutely love looking at it. Every
Speaker 2: time I look in my backyard, I see this giant
Speaker 2: concrete zen cat statue. And I laughed to myself that
Speaker 2: I acquired such a stupid item. Me joy, I've I
Speaker 2: think I bought it before.
Speaker 3: The Game Awards, so probably I was gonna say, I
Speaker 3: feel like me, oh yeah, that sounds great.
Speaker 2: I would have brought everybody in come look, come look
Speaker 2: in my cat sastue. I know I bought it at
Speaker 2: the Game Awards because it's the same estate sale, literally
Speaker 2: the same house that I also found a velvet black dress.
Speaker 2: And I remember saying to myself, that's so pretty, but
Speaker 2: there's no way that's gonna fit me. Well, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: try it on and I went to this dead lady's
Speaker 2: house and I tried on this black dress.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: Her name was Susan. They told me all about her,
Speaker 2: and this dress fit me like a glove.
Speaker 1: She died.
Speaker 2: I bought it, she died. I took it right off
Speaker 2: her bones. I paid this man twenty dollars for this beautiful,
Speaker 2: uh vintage black velvet gown, and I wore it to
Speaker 2: the Game Awards and you guys all hugged me in it.
Speaker 2: That is Susan's dress, Susan. Sure, yeah, there's no question.
Speaker 2: I mean that dress had been lived in it some
Speaker 2: and add somewhere and tear. But I love old people's stuff.
Speaker 2: I love things that have been worn and lived in
Speaker 2: and loved. And I really enjoy estate sales shopping because
Speaker 2: it's not actually about like acquiring something I really need.
Speaker 2: It's not like finding the perfect cable or something. It's
Speaker 2: really about walking through somebody's life and being like, that's
Speaker 2: actually such a fucking sick statue. I love that they
Speaker 2: had that. How much do you want for it? As
Speaker 2: long as they're not trying to gouge me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I will take that home and I will put that
Speaker 2: in my house, and my house is filled with shit like.
Speaker 4: That, And even if you don't buy anything, it's just
Speaker 4: like an interesting just like, oh, who was this person?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what were they doing? Why were they so into giraffes?
Speaker 2: I did go to an Estates tale where everything was
Speaker 2: a giraffe, and it was just so obvious that everyone
Speaker 2: was like, what do we get them? They're fucking one
Speaker 2: hundred years old. I don't know what to buy them,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, they're really into giraffes, and so
Speaker 2: they just had every everything was a giraffe. It was
Speaker 2: really I think that shit is so fun.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I actually I have something perfect.
Speaker 3: I'll bear back, uh, Mary while he's getting that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you asked me to just grab the thing closest
Speaker 4: to me and it would be something stupid. I was
Speaker 4: looking around and I didn't initially see it because it's
Speaker 4: the same color as my desk. But this just came
Speaker 4: in the mail a couple of days ago. For those
Speaker 4: who are not watching the video, it looks like a watch, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like a watch.
Speaker 4: Now, this is the Pavlov shock clock, which Mary, can
Speaker 4: you describe what you see on the backside of this
Speaker 4: risk of par two.
Speaker 2: Little metal bubbles on the back of this watch.
Speaker 4: It is a thing that you put on and you
Speaker 4: fall asleep to it, and you set your alarm, and
Speaker 4: you can set the intensity, and you can set some
Speaker 4: really crazy shit.
Speaker 3: It electrocutes you.
Speaker 2: One shot collar to wake up too.
Speaker 4: Yes, and you can also set things to where it
Speaker 4: will not stop shocking you. In fact, you can set
Speaker 4: it to increase in intensity until you you can turn
Speaker 4: one or multiple of these on. Where you have to
Speaker 4: solve a puzzle, you have to print it. Like I
Speaker 4: could print out a QR code and put it down
Speaker 4: in my basement and I won't stop going to electrocuta
Speaker 4: until I run down and scan it. You can make
Speaker 4: it so you have to do jumping jacks, you know,
Speaker 4: like a certain amount, Like I'm not going to stop
Speaker 4: getting electrocuted until i do fifty jumping jacks, run downstairs
Speaker 4: and scanning QR.
Speaker 3: Code and solve this puzzle.
Speaker 1: Why don't you just.
Speaker 3: It's a sex thing about Like all right.
Speaker 2: Lets be real here. There are so many different knobs
Speaker 2: and nodules on that thing. There's no way someone hasn't
Speaker 2: put that on their butthole before.
Speaker 3: Somebody probably has.
Speaker 1: Why don't you just do jumping jacks?
Speaker 4: Well, because I think the incentive is I'm getting electrocuted
Speaker 4: and I would like this to stop.
Speaker 2: It's for people who were like, I don't like it,
Speaker 2: but I am gonna put it on again tonight.
Speaker 4: No, this is the reason this was recommended to me
Speaker 4: is because I used to taser myself.
Speaker 1: Dann, it's it's me and Mary. You can tell us
Speaker 1: it's a sexual thing.
Speaker 3: I don't have an electrocution.
Speaker 2: Fast horny sleep watch I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I have never been electrocuted and gotten an erection.
Speaker 2: Does it have on it? How tight can you?
Speaker 1: I mean, next time we're at the house for Game
Speaker 1: of the Year, we're gonna be in the other room
Speaker 1: and here Dan wake up with the shock and then
Speaker 1: just coming the whole way downstairs. I brought some stuff.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of bar I have a lot
Speaker 1: of bar wear that's not necessary that I picked up.
Speaker 1: There's a like whenever we go to Cape Cod there
Speaker 1: are stores. There's a kitchen store called Atlantic Spice that
Speaker 1: is impossible not to get stuff. I have a fish
Speaker 1: shaped wine opener. It's pretty good. I also have a
Speaker 1: half naked golden Mermaid bottle cap opener. I also, I
Speaker 1: got this in Hawaii. It's a statue bottle opener. And
Speaker 1: then this is one of my favorites. I got this
Speaker 1: at the airport in San Juan. It's a Puerto Rican
Speaker 1: it's just it says Puerto Rico and it's turtles flask.
Speaker 1: But it's that cheap stuff that peels off. And this
Speaker 1: is my favorite. I didn't buy this. This is actually
Speaker 1: a gift from a friend who had gone to a
Speaker 1: Ruba with his wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go, show it up.
Speaker 1: It's a cooozy on one side, just as a Ruba
Speaker 1: and really elegant, sophisticated letters. I got turn Around, Gin
Speaker 1: and hot women, Nothing else matters.
Speaker 3: That's what that Metallica songs about.
Speaker 1: And it just shows, it just shows giblets. Gin.
Speaker 2: This bad boy has been shown off before the.
Speaker 3: Most two dead or alive beach volleyball model.
Speaker 1: And she's yeah, she's the most like late nineties porn
Speaker 1: type nothing else matter song or tell me yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can barely even see it, Gin, and this barely
Speaker 1: fits me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like three inches deep.
Speaker 1: I know, I have to really it.
Speaker 3: It's like super It's like a boorscrition.
Speaker 2: Yet all his points into girth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, credit with the circumference is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like a frisbee down there. Well, thank you, Okay,
Speaker 1: that would be.
Speaker 4: For both parties involved, unless you crazy if you found
Speaker 4: the right match for that.
Speaker 1: Unless you got that deep dish pussy for the frisbee assertion.
Speaker 3: It's not deep at all. Shallow and why.
Speaker 2: Shallow puddle puss.
Speaker 3: Shadow shallow puddlestick dot com.
Speaker 1: Don't buy the I don't think I like any of
Speaker 1: this that we're saying.
Speaker 3: We've got deep dish pussy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just need frisbee dick now associated frisbee dick
Speaker 1: dot eed U is gonna get snatched up if we
Speaker 1: don't act quickly. Uh previous question. Anything come to mind
Speaker 1: in a game that's someone has told you to to do?
Speaker 1: Change that.
Speaker 3: I don't go.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a good example, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna buy time with it because it was very controversial.
Speaker 2: There was a game that came out when I was
Speaker 2: working at game Spot called Everyone's Gone to the Wraption.
Speaker 1: Yes this, yeah totally, and it actually.
Speaker 2: Was like kind of universally. It was reviewed a bit
Speaker 2: poorly because even though it has a really interesting story
Speaker 2: and it's that's pretty much it's only thing like it's
Speaker 2: telling quite a good tale. It's all about walking. It's
Speaker 2: a walk sim as we used to call them back then,
Speaker 2: and it's just like you just walk to these areas.
Speaker 2: It took so long for you to be able to
Speaker 2: get there. And then one day post our review going up,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty siu. It was like after our review
Speaker 2: end up saying like, we have a problem with this.
Speaker 1: It was it was a nine out of ten, but
Speaker 1: the reviewer also called out that you walk very slowly.
Speaker 2: Correct It's just like it took you a long time
Speaker 2: to walk from point A to point B, and that's
Speaker 2: the whole fucking point of the game. So it's just
Speaker 2: really annoying. It was learned that if you hold a
Speaker 2: you start walking, but over time you would get a
Speaker 2: light jog, which in that game was a massive change
Speaker 2: to whether or not it was like a bit of
Speaker 2: a problem. I don't know if it like fundamentally changed
Speaker 2: the way you play it. You still had to do
Speaker 2: the exact same bullshit, but all of a sudden it
Speaker 2: was like, thank you for like doing this. What I
Speaker 2: never really learned was did they add that in and
Speaker 2: then just say, oh, you needed to hold it down that.
Speaker 1: Saying it was in a review guide, but people just
Speaker 1: didn't read the whole thing.
Speaker 2: You just didn't read it. Yeah, that was a big
Speaker 2: one in my day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for this question. Also, I think like the entirety
Speaker 1: of I still hear things about like Breath the Wild
Speaker 1: and Tears the Kingdom. I did not know you could do,
Speaker 1: Like what was it when people started building like using
Speaker 1: the pent up potential energy from freeze to then catapult
Speaker 1: bombs with you standing on them.
Speaker 4: Across There's all those like speed run tricks that like
Speaker 4: Breadth the Wild and subhad. It's like, oh, chop down
Speaker 4: a tree in the new Stasis and build up the
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you just fly across the map.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: counts really because like I think those were all just
Speaker 1: more like someone messing with the immersive sim elements of
Speaker 1: it there just wanted me to.
Speaker 2: Like break the game is a big game changer right
Speaker 2: where you're just like, oh, I actually can just wreck
Speaker 2: this thing and like evolve. It was really cool to learn.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Zelda is a great one for that.
Speaker 3: There's obvious stuff like in Mario Party.
Speaker 4: I always message speed fast and save after every turn,
Speaker 4: so some bullshit happens or someone resets it or something,
Speaker 4: it's saved. And also I don't want to hear the
Speaker 4: fucking shop Koopa talk for twenty minutes every time I
Speaker 4: passed there.
Speaker 1: I uh I. This is also a bit different. But
Speaker 1: once I got the all Guns sheet and Golden Eye,
Speaker 1: I discovered that we were basically playing a Horde mode
Speaker 1: before it had been technically invented on the facility level
Speaker 1: second mission in Golden Eye, once the alarm goes off, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you kill Trevellian, But as long as you don't
Speaker 1: blow up the gas tanks, the only thing ending the
Speaker 1: mission is you going through that last door.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: If you go through the door without blowing out the
Speaker 1: gas tanks, you fail the mission. But of course if
Speaker 1: you don't blow up the gas tanks, you're not gonna suffocate.
Speaker 1: There's a whole room up above you. There's endless enemy
Speaker 1: soldiers just keep coming into that room. So once I
Speaker 1: had all Guns on, I would just do like a
Speaker 1: treat that like a Horde mode before it was actually
Speaker 1: the thing in Gears of War or anything.
Speaker 4: Like that that also had like little easter egg things,
Speaker 4: where as soon as I realized you could detonate the
Speaker 4: remote bombs by hitting A and B together instead of
Speaker 4: like cycling to your watch and hitting it that way,
Speaker 4: you could throw a remote mind and while it's in
Speaker 4: mid air right in front of someone's face, is just explode.
Speaker 3: It so much more fun. Good for multiplayer too.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait for it to land. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, there's more might come to us, but uh
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'll I'll let you know next time before
Speaker 1: we're doing it, so you can the.
Speaker 2: Pokemon of one where it's like, oh, we might need
Speaker 2: a minute to get cooking, and then they just start
Speaker 2: pouring out of us.
Speaker 4: It's always tough because it's like I do always prefer
Speaker 4: the just like actually hearing it for the first time
Speaker 4: on the air. But then it's like there are ones
Speaker 4: where it's like, I bet there's ten examples I could
Speaker 4: give right now, but yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 2: They're specific and it's hard because I don't also just
Speaker 2: want to give a random one. It's like there's really
Speaker 2: good ones I'm sure that have happened over the course
Speaker 2: of my life that I just need a little I
Speaker 2: need a noodle on oh.
Speaker 1: I also for super Mega super Mega Baseball three during
Speaker 1: our World Series charity thing we did, which was very fun.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much I was over Remember I
Speaker 1: smoked you in the first game, and then you came
Speaker 1: back and destroyed me in the second game by like
Speaker 1: twenty runs. Yes, I think I start overthinking the batting
Speaker 1: and the difficulty we were on. I didn't realize they
Speaker 1: weren't making us on the higher difficulties. You go to
Speaker 1: a setting where it's like you have to actually aim
Speaker 1: the bat based on where the timing. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: overthinking it and I was actually to aim and hit
Speaker 1: the pitches. I was striking out every time.
Speaker 3: I was like, IDA, always try that, Like it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: high into the left, I think I.
Speaker 1: I was going, and if you do that, well you'll
Speaker 1: get a better hit, but it's not necessary for just connecting.
Speaker 1: I was like striking out left and right. In that second,
Speaker 1: he was like, how did I get this bad? I
Speaker 1: think we played two nights before that, we did an
Speaker 1: actual World Series schedule. I was like, I must be
Speaker 1: doing something wrong. And then once that click that I
Speaker 1: was overthinking it. I was like, oh, this is fine,
Speaker 1: and then I only won the series by one game.
Speaker 1: I think it was tight up until then.
Speaker 3: That's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's there's also like little immergent things like so, oh,
Speaker 1: someone taught me in FIFA back when I played FIFA,
Speaker 1: which was a while ago. The game mode where you
Speaker 1: can get a normal goal for a point or red
Speaker 1: cards also technically count toward your score. So you're trying
Speaker 1: just as hard to get red cards, which you and
Speaker 1: you're the person you're playing with will consider a point
Speaker 1: as you are to get a goal. The hitch. The
Speaker 1: hitch being that every time you get a red card,
Speaker 1: you lose the player. Oh fun, fun game mode.
Speaker 2: What happens when you run out of players? Do they
Speaker 2: not let you get that point?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, at least I never
Speaker 1: saw it happen.
Speaker 2: It be one versus eight or however many players play soccer.
Speaker 2: Really embarrass myself with my soccer knowledge right now.
Speaker 1: There in Europe they call it basketball. Yeah it was. Oh,
Speaker 1: actually I have one more. Now I'm in sports mode
Speaker 1: NFL Street two. There are many modes in that game.
Speaker 1: There's one mode called NFL Challenge. Usually you do the
Speaker 1: thing like backyard sports games where you're just building up
Speaker 1: your team and you're recruiting new players, and every once
Speaker 1: in a while you can get an NFL player. NFL
Speaker 1: Challenge is the three v three mode where you are
Speaker 1: going through and you're playing all the NFL teams, and
Speaker 1: if you complete a specific challenge, you automatically get to
Speaker 1: pick any of the players from that team to join
Speaker 1: yours instead of getting I forget what the other bonuses
Speaker 1: are the bonus the challenge, and I might be misconsidering
Speaker 1: two things, but I remember the challenge was you had
Speaker 1: to get three wall diving touchdowns, which you could. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: they could get annoying because the difference between a wall
Speaker 1: run and a wall dive was a very small angle
Speaker 1: so often, and you could only play up to twenty
Speaker 1: one or something. So if you got one wall running touchdown,
Speaker 1: you fuck yourself over because you can't finish the game
Speaker 1: with three wall dives because you would exceed the points
Speaker 1: you need to score. But you also need to get
Speaker 1: three wall passes, so you would need to basically maximize. Okay,
Speaker 1: on this drive, I could do all three wall passes whatever.
Speaker 1: But then once I realized that that challenge, it's you
Speaker 1: an NFL player. I was like, oh shit, I can
Speaker 1: just build an NFL dream team in NFL Street too.
Speaker 1: Like at that era, I would have been like Ladany
Speaker 1: and Tomlinson, Michael vick Y, you know, pre dog Fighting,
Speaker 1: when he was just a fast quarterback.
Speaker 4: Priest Holmes, Yeah, yes, was he either chiefs receiver, running back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You could get those players just by beating the
Speaker 1: team like you can in NBA Street, where you can
Speaker 1: either get points for your creative player or get the
Speaker 1: NBA player. But I invariably just recruited or NFL player
Speaker 1: in that mode, and that was fun, and that completely
Speaker 1: changed how I saw that game, even though I already
Speaker 1: really liked it.
Speaker 3: It's a great naming.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sayzar for running in. If we think of
Speaker 1: any others, we'll probably think of I thought of another. Okay, go.
Speaker 2: At first, I was playing Sniper Elite to be a sniper,
Speaker 2: but once I found out that you could shoot people
Speaker 2: in the balls, it fundamentally changed whether or not I
Speaker 2: would actually shoot anyone any other place at any time.
Speaker 2: I was just a ball hunter.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's really good. That's the name of the game.
Speaker 3: In Europe.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, ball hunter existence.
Speaker 3: You can't say a sniper in your episodes? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: I can't resist hunting these balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got a fever bres More.
Speaker 3: Balls look like glorious bastards of Hitler's face. But it's just.
Speaker 2: Getting a grenade and throwing it at their ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. Well, thank you, sayzar. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: that's our show, episode ninety nine. Say goodbye to Double
Speaker 1: Digits you two Fox Wow crazy? It is not is
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Speaker 3: We've been doing this while coming up on four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like one hundred and ninety eight weeks.
Speaker 3: That sounds right, Yeah, which is bath.
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Speaker 4: Call me on Twitch, on Blue Sky, on Instagram. That's
Speaker 4: pretty much my thing. I'm just Dan Reichord on pretty
Speaker 4: much everything.
Speaker 1: Mary what about you?
Speaker 2: My stream every Monday on Twitch unless I have a
Speaker 2: sick tummy. Then I place Spiro on the couch while
Speaker 2: watching old Simpson episodes, and I'm usually on on the
Speaker 2: other social media apps. I find that I actually do
Speaker 2: update my Instagram stories relatively frequently. I just find them fun.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite? Go? What's the best Simpsons episode? Go?
Speaker 1: You have to pick one of all time?
Speaker 3: Lemon Tree or Monorail.
Speaker 2: You know, Lemon Tree is really up there for me
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: I lost my audio. Just keep talking, keep riffing, I'll
Speaker 1: fix Okay.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get He's not smart enough to get it.
Speaker 2: I I think, damn. Those are actually both excellent episodes.
Speaker 2: The Monorail one is also very good.
Speaker 3: Go to college.
Speaker 2: Treehouse of Horror six is very good. It might be five.
Speaker 2: I think it's six. It's the one. So Treehouse of
Speaker 2: Horror has like some really iconic ones. And there's one
Speaker 2: where Burns is Nosferatu.
Speaker 3: Oh and it's the like bram Soakers Dracula style with.
Speaker 1: The like the puppy.
Speaker 2: It's really good. I mean, I think they're they're their
Speaker 2: Treehouse of Horror episodes, they're all their Halloween episodes. They're
Speaker 2: all fucking slam dunks. But I think there's a couple
Speaker 2: that are just really iconic. The one where Homer goes
Speaker 2: into a three D land as a kid that.
Speaker 3: Blew me away, like, holy shitn't at the end, he's
Speaker 3: like in the real world erotic.
Speaker 2: Cakes and yeah, ooh erotic cakes. Yeah yeah, and the
Speaker 2: sister is Patty and Samma. It's like he disappeared into
Speaker 2: fat air. There's just so many good singers in those episodes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the one where the I think their ads just come
Speaker 2: to life. And so Homer steals the giants jelly.
Speaker 3: The lard lad donuts, Yeah, I got your donut?
Speaker 2: What do you gonna do about it? And he starts
Speaker 2: destroying the town.
Speaker 4: When they give him his thing back and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: finally peace, and he just takes the donut and smashes
Speaker 4: the house and just like runs down the street destroying
Speaker 4: all the.
Speaker 2: Houses, and Homer goes to Marginie goes, don't you ever
Speaker 2: get tired of being wrong? And she does sometimes. And
Speaker 2: I actually say that sometimes if anyone's like I've actually
Speaker 2: like in a joking way, but like I their lingo
Speaker 2: is in this brain so deeply that sometimes if like
Speaker 2: someone has been like just taken l's, I will say, like,
Speaker 2: what should we get tired of being wrong all the time?
Speaker 2: Like it's just really good everyday language that you can use. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are I think those treehouses of horror like they
Speaker 2: have to be really up there for me.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, I've seen some of those. I've seen the Raven.
Speaker 2: Never Mare, never Mare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the Okale Heart one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 3: That's why I know any girl on poets from the Simpsons,
Speaker 3: there's so.
Speaker 2: Many good ones. The Pool episode when Bart breaks his leg, I.
Speaker 3: Mean the Bart, uh, the gross Bart, the twin that
Speaker 3: was living in the attic or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that also it's also a treehouse of horror?
Speaker 3: Or the Shining one no Beer, no TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one is so brilliant. Yeah, don't mind
Speaker 2: if I do. Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's so
Speaker 2: many episodes, it's very difficult to pick my favorite Simpson's episode,
Speaker 2: but I think it would be a treehouse of horror.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 2: Great, But thank you all for joining us. We're so
Speaker 2: glad that you have listened to us and watched us
Speaker 2: for our patrons, whom we love so dearly. Uh for
Speaker 2: ninety nine episodes. Next episode will be our hundredth, and
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Speaker 3: I'm not good at this, you're not, so we have
Speaker 3: Mike do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah for three hours, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I don't like hosting. I'm not Yeah, I don't like hosting.
Speaker 1: See you be there or I'll find you so good there.
Speaker 1: You have to give me your address. I will be
Speaker 1: at your house if you don't come to the one
Speaker 1: hundredth episode.
Speaker 2: This is why he's going to be the host of
Speaker 2: Hollywood Squares.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, well no, hang on, that's me, My god,
Speaker 4: I deserve everything.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take over from either Jimmy Matt.
Speaker 2: Say Jack, Wait is it past Jack?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: Tom Berger?
Speaker 1: It's about Craig Ferguson.
Speaker 3: Wink Martindale, you go weaving, I'll see you on our
Speaker 3: Richard Dawson, Banks, Penelope uh hey so yeah bye,