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<v Speaker 1>Baby, I'm a gangstera too. It takes a lot of tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't mess with me. Mess with me, baby, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a gangster too. Oh baby, you're a gamester too.

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<v Speaker 2>For the warners, So this podcast is designed to take

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<v Speaker 2>you outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener Discretion is a vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk with me, fellas, this ain't my first time at

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<v Speaker 4>the rodeos to.

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<v Speaker 1>Loll.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, everyone, you are listening to the Cosmic Peach

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<v Speaker 4>podcast and tonight I have on New York Patriot from

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<v Speaker 4>the Occult Rejects and also he has his own show.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone already knows this a New York Patriots show. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you so much, And yeah, I'm a huge fan, have

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<v Speaker 4>always been a huge fan. Never thought i'd actually get

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to you and like spill my crazy out

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<v Speaker 4>all over you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't want to hit you up. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're like holy shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, oh my god, it's just New

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<v Speaker 4>York Patriot. Don't make you no.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a listen, and thank you for having me on

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<v Speaker 5>and even thinking to me with this too.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you were the first person I thought of,

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<v Speaker 4>because what we're going to be talking about tonight is

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<v Speaker 4>the Winchester Rifle Mansion, and a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 4>familiar with this place, but as I was talking to

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<v Speaker 4>New York about it, it's only ever covered in a

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<v Speaker 4>paranormal aspect. But what about all the symbolism, what about

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<v Speaker 4>all the dark shit? It gets glossed over one percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really good point. You know. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>kind of make a comment going along with what you

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<v Speaker 3>were just saying. I looked at some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that you had sent me, and I think I, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I did watch two different shows on one

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<v Speaker 3>or two about it. One of them was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more of kind of like the history of like the

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<v Speaker 3>House and the Lady, but it can't go too deep.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one just went straight in to

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<v Speaker 3>go something. But you know, like the thing with me

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<v Speaker 3>is that I was watching it and I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>you said, seance room, you got weird stares going on

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<v Speaker 3>over the place, she got doors opening that, like just

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<v Speaker 3>the wall there, and like we're not gonna get into

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<v Speaker 3>more of this, like we're just gonna kind of breeze

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<v Speaker 3>over that and just go along with like, which I

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<v Speaker 3>think is still interesting. Oh look at the sculptures on

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<v Speaker 3>the one, which still looked a cult to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was like we just kind of glazed over the

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<v Speaker 3>sands room.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know, and it's like there's a big

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<v Speaker 4>fucking elephant in the room and its name is occultism. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I found. But yeah, So the first thing

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is interesting is this bad Boy is

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<v Speaker 4>located in California.

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<v Speaker 5>So much weird shit out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. We just like before we covered the Cabala,

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<v Speaker 3>like technically our last series that even the Occult Rejects

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<v Speaker 3>did was on a cult in California.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. And she never had ever been to California.

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<v Speaker 4>She grew up in Connecticut and had lived her whole

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<v Speaker 4>life in Connecticut. And then when she decided I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>into why, but she moves to California and builds this

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<v Speaker 4>sucker right in the middle of San Jose, California, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's supposedly one of the most haunted places in America.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think ghosts are what they're seeing up

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<v Speaker 4>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I can agree with that. Or if it's it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or if they aren't, they're probably not understanding what's making

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<v Speaker 3>that happen? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's completely bizarre. It's completely bizarre, and it's so

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<v Speaker 4>it's twenty four thousand square feet and it's a Victorian mansion,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously built in the late eighteen hundreds. Staircases to know

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<v Speaker 4>where doors that lead to nowhere. Everyone knows this, but

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<v Speaker 4>now here's where I need your thoughts, feelings, opinions, New York,

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<v Speaker 4>because I noticed that some of the doors open up

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<v Speaker 4>to a thirteen foot drop and there's thirteen bathrooms and

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen steps on each staircase. What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, even before when you mentioned how

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<v Speaker 3>much a square foot it had, I had wondered if

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<v Speaker 3>that was like, you know, I broke that down to

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<v Speaker 3>like six twenty four, bit JAMONTI you make that six.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you mentioned thirteen a few times, aiding that

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<v Speaker 3>together you would, uh we would still you'd get four.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are two male like kind of masculine numbers. That

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<v Speaker 3>was just the first thing that came to my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could be wrong, but did the house have

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<v Speaker 3>seven floors before she started working on it, before it

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<v Speaker 3>started collapsing it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like a really big farmhouse and she

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<v Speaker 4>basically kept the original structure and just added onto it

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<v Speaker 4>over the years.

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<v Speaker 5>But she spread out said shit down, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so the address is five two five, which is

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<v Speaker 4>five that's ten twelve one plus three, so we have

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<v Speaker 4>a three there, and then we have all these thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>foot drop, thirteen bathrooms, thirteen steps on staircase. I mean, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Thirteen that's definitely don't on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh yeah, even if I can't even reason that,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it has to be. I mean, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that like, I mean, in my opinion, if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a sands room you're into ocultism, probably that's something

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna do on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I hope I can't not bring the fire for

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<v Speaker 4>this episode, so I hope I'm gonna just leave you awestruck.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's continue. Some of the stained glass windows are

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<v Speaker 4>super freaky looking. I don't know, if you've got a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to look.

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<v Speaker 3>At those, the aren't in the house and the art

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<v Speaker 3>and the ground, they're kind of impressive there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, I mean there's the stained glass windows are

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<v Speaker 4>like spider webs, and some of them look like like

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<v Speaker 4>solar systems, and like, what what did you find about

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<v Speaker 4>the strike on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of fishes. I mean, no, people may think

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<v Speaker 3>that's silly, but I think that could have like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of like neither abyss or even type of like

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Even like the Jesus idea in a sense maybe stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh they had like just a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff that seemed like kind of aquatic to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like it might have been common. It's just like the

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<v Speaker 3>thing is is like once I knew who this person

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<v Speaker 3>was into it, I have to stop looking at everything

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<v Speaker 3>like wondering, like you know, the reason for it when

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<v Speaker 3>you're getting into magic. I mean technically, if you're probably

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<v Speaker 3>doing what she thinks she was doing, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>crossing the abyss in a sense or pulling things from it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought like a lot of the art could

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<v Speaker 3>actually you know, go along with that type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>just in my opinion. Unfortunately, I think if the average

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<v Speaker 3>person looked at it, they probably wouldn't think anything of it.

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<v Speaker 5>There was some of the glass structures that I saw

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<v Speaker 5>inside the house.

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<v Speaker 3>That I don't know who made them. But I hate

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<v Speaker 3>to say it, but I really do think you know,

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day, you look at all these uh,

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<v Speaker 3>all these like churches or all these things are ability.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, you know that so much time and

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<v Speaker 3>attention because given to that, and we don't get.

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<v Speaker 5>That anymore with stuff, you know, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think people, you know, and it always

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be with like spiritual religious stuff. You have

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<v Speaker 3>these big, beautiful monuments made for so sometimes I do

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<v Speaker 3>think like people will put that much time and effort

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<v Speaker 3>into it because uh, it's kind I hate to sound cheesy,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's almost like you kind of receive the download.

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<v Speaker 3>They have an image in their mind and they want

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<v Speaker 3>to replicate it, and they will just stop it nothing

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<v Speaker 3>until it's gone. You know, when you fuck with magic,

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<v Speaker 3>you will be inspired to like do things and create things,

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<v Speaker 3>and either you can make art or you could be

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<v Speaker 3>an asshole in other ways. You know, there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>different ways you can go about it. But I do think,

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<v Speaker 3>like again, just going along with the type of person

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<v Speaker 3>that she was and what I did, you know, find

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<v Speaker 3>out very little about her. I you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's all to me characteristics of somebody into that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Other people, you know, maybe I'm if I'm sure if

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<v Speaker 3>I was like rich or just you know whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would probably buy fucking weird looking art because I

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<v Speaker 3>understand what it fucking looks like, you know, or stained

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<v Speaker 3>glass windows because it makes sense to me, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would have that in my house and other people might

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<v Speaker 3>just that's pretty weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And speaking about the stained glass windows, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>that you brought that up again because what I found

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the stained glass windows says wide, unclasp

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<v Speaker 4>the tables of their thoughts. And I was thrown off

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<v Speaker 4>by this because it's cryptic as fuck. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>googled it and it's from a Shakespeare play.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh fuck yeah, New York, New York Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Shakespeare play and Shakespeare said this phrase means

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<v Speaker 4>unbind the seance tables to freely communicate the messages of

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<v Speaker 4>the spirit. Yes, wow, now you tell me what you

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<v Speaker 4>think about that. Why the fuck are you getting that

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<v Speaker 4>on some stained glass windows?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you know, we've come across it with the Gess,

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<v Speaker 3>the Order of Quatxicotal and a lot of mason in orders.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Crowley's even mentioned him, you know the oto. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>They have Francis Bacon, who is sometimes considered maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, one of the two or three people that

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<v Speaker 3>really was Shakespeare. They do acknowledge Francis Bacon as a saint,

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of secret societies are very big into Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very influenced by him, my opinion, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>how I think like that. I mean, I do think

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<v Speaker 3>there is an agenda to push weird sexualism and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that the world weird identities. But I do think

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<v Speaker 3>there is times where people This is why I think

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<v Speaker 3>is an example with Shakespeare. He was showing archetypes. He

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<v Speaker 3>was actually showing male and female energies changing around. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a fucking whole story going on there that the average

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<v Speaker 3>person doesn't realize, and they're just like, oh, that dude

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<v Speaker 3>looks cool in a women's clothes. I have no friends,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'll dress like that.

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<v Speaker 6>People like, hey, they liked him on State, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying, and then taking the shit wrong where

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, no, I really was just trying to show

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<v Speaker 6>a feminine energy, influencing, influencing a male with something.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, and because you know, Shakespeare, I believe

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<v Speaker 3>was into the occult, so that's exactly what he was

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<v Speaker 3>showing with all that weird shit. So now you're saying

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<v Speaker 3>that she's got a quote in her house. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm by far sold this lady wasn't the ship.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah no. And so my

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<v Speaker 4>question to you is, was the millionaire widow Sarah Winchester

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<v Speaker 4>actually a necromancer because there's a lot of evidence to

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<v Speaker 3>at it, where you're actually being birthed, whereas death, same

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<v Speaker 3>chaos magic. There's no difference in regular magic really or

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's almost like a word to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, so that's this is what.

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<v Speaker 4>and like. But I did want to tell you a

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<v Speaker 5>Did they have the same name or did she just

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they named their their first daughter Sarah died, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they had they got pregnant again and named her Sarah.

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<v Speaker 4>we'll name her Sarah too, And it's like weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, also, depending on what her family was into

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<v Speaker 3>do think we're like names or specific letters do mean

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in occultism. So they might have stuck with that

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<v Speaker 3>name Sarah because of what it actually kind of represented.

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<v Speaker 3>If they were into that.

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<v Speaker 5>Shit, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So they might have been hell bent are representing something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Well. They were pretty affluent people. They weren't broke by

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<v Speaker 4>any means. And she grew up right next to Yale University,

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you got William Shakespeare's Sure no one ever

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<v Speaker 3>brings that. Uh No, even in the Justice Initiations and

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<v Speaker 3>Quats the Cootal Initiations, they mentioned Shakespeare. Definitely mentioned Shakespeare stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And actually, I just want to change it for a

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<v Speaker 4>second because there's a new show on Netflix called The Sandman.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you watched it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I have to rewatch it again.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, do you remember when he he finds Shakespeare?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, was that the part with like his that dude

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<v Speaker 3>that he kept the meeting up with didn't he end

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<v Speaker 3>up like being maybe one or two play kind of

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<v Speaker 3>or he sted He was like a few kind of

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<v Speaker 3>well known people throughout this time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically they were implying that Shakespeare, because of like

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<v Speaker 4>this darkness that he wanted to portray, like the Sandman,

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<v Speaker 4>gave him this gift of it's really dark. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they mentioned a Uster Crowley in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they do, Yes, they do. You're right. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I put it on actually is because luxtold me, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I watched it. I was like, yoh, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like right out the gate and within the first episode.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right they mentioned Crowley.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and it was like the one deity that was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to represent desire. What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 4>That was like, whoa, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, it's actually something that I think Luck.

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<v Speaker 3>Said he'd be interested in covering because I actually think

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<v Speaker 3>there's so much shit in that show.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the game that keeps on giving.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he very much. Uh kind of plays like the feminine.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a lot of people get could get into

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<v Speaker 3>like a you know, I guess Saturn being more of

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<v Speaker 3>a feminine thing, but like there is a male aspect

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<v Speaker 3>to that as well, and I think he was very

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<v Speaker 3>much symbolizing that. And I quote my eye because it's

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<v Speaker 3>you normally don't see that as often. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>normally always like a lot of like I hate to

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<v Speaker 3>say the phrasing of like the scarlet horse type stuff

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<v Speaker 3>or very like it's always like a woman that's like

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<v Speaker 3>controlling the scenario. So I thought it was interesting seeing that,

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean then I've also been kind of seeing

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<v Speaker 3>stuff even in media going the other.

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<v Speaker 7>Direction now, I think anyway, yeah, getting away from left

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<v Speaker 7>pillars stuff, very scarlet horror, feminine energy collapsing in on itself,

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<v Speaker 7>to now are kind of going to an expansive energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the Ukraine flag colors, perfect example, male colors green

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<v Speaker 3>still on the male tree, even though the queen was

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<v Speaker 3>wearing it, it's still on the mill side. So you

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of I see a pendulum swinging, And

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, like that show kind of quote my eye

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<v Speaker 3>because I was like, oh, yeah, here's another male aspect

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<v Speaker 3>now instead of a feel.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna throw this out there and you can

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<v Speaker 4>tell me to fuck off New York. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>guys are gonna do a show on the sand Man

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<v Speaker 4>count me the fuck in. I will just and throw

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<v Speaker 4>out a comment every now. I was wondering if you

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<v Speaker 4>saw it though, because it was just like endless amounts

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<v Speaker 4>of like references and like it was so crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyways, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely I ever suggested people to watch if they

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<v Speaker 3>want to check it out for a cult symbolism. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they do. Suspect that the real William Shakespeare was a

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<v Speaker 3>Rosicrucian too.

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<v Speaker 4>What, Yeah, that would make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, holy shit, I forgot about that. Yeah, if like

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<v Speaker 3>Francis Bacon was a Rosicrucian too, and like they think

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<v Speaker 3>that he is one of like two or three people

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<v Speaker 3>that was Shakespeare. But regardless, there was a lot pointing

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<v Speaker 3>back to him being a Rosicrucian, just in some of

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<v Speaker 3>his books. I mean he has like shit in there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like literally like shit that matches up with Rosicrucion.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you're not the first person who's actually told

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<v Speaker 4>me that. So it's like coming full circle. Everything's like

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<v Speaker 4>a spiderweb. So Sarah Winchester is into Residicrucianism and Freemasonry,

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<v Speaker 4>and at the age twenty three, she married a family

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<v Speaker 4>friend named William Winchester. Two years later, after she marries

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<v Speaker 4>William Winchester, she has a daughter born June fifteenth, eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty six.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm sorry, what was the date again?

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<v Speaker 4>June which is a six? Yeah, fifteenth, which is a six.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, eighteen sixty six, so you got.

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<v Speaker 3>You got six six, and then that would be seven twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>Nineteen, damn, I don't know what that ten and bring

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<v Speaker 5>down the one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Uh, that is interesting though. The first

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<v Speaker 3>two is six six.

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<v Speaker 4>And then sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh no, I'm sorry, that would be nine,

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<v Speaker 3>and then twelve. There'd be twenty one to three, so

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<v Speaker 3>you get six six and then three.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought that was so weird. William right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>William Winchester, and then she marries him has a daughter

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<v Speaker 4>named Annie. And the sixes was weird because I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>if this it is eighteen sixty six, but it's like

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<v Speaker 4>weird because the baby mysteriously dies one month later? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Really mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, d for that, there is exactly one month.

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<v Speaker 4>It said in July of eighteen sixty six, one month

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<v Speaker 4>after she died mysteriously, and it didn't give it the

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<v Speaker 4>date that she died, but it just said a one

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<v Speaker 4>month later in July, and I guess she was so

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed by it, like they decided not to have any

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<v Speaker 4>more children, but instead they just devote every waking minute

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<v Speaker 4>of their lives into guns. And so at that time,

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<v Speaker 4>soldiers are still using single shot carbines, meaning like every

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<v Speaker 4>single time they fired the gun, they have to stop

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<v Speaker 4>and reload, and as you can imagine, this was a

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know it something I do want to add

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<v Speaker 3>real quick before you get going, and I forget. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it may not be anything, but the daughter you said

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<v Speaker 3>was June fifteenth, eighteen sixty six, that would have been

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<v Speaker 3>when she died. Would have been more than likely when

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<v Speaker 3>she was born. She was probably born in Gemini. When

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<v Speaker 3>she died, it was more than likely if it was

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<v Speaker 3>a month later, that was cancer. I mean, the only

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<v Speaker 3>weird about that I'm thinking is because especially with freemasonry,

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<v Speaker 3>at the top of the pillar, you have a cancer

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<v Speaker 3>symbol on a lot of them, and they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like cancer can also be kind of like the keyhole

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<v Speaker 3>of like how you escape the matrix citizens, oh, break

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<v Speaker 3>out of the system. So I don't know, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be coming out of the flesh, experiencing magic,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, baking out the system. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if there's anything there. I mean, I hate to even

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<v Speaker 3>come up with like a weird thing about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe she was supposed to who knows, But it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Weird though that she's surrounded by death, like she replaced

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<v Speaker 4>her dead sister, She gets pregnant, baby dies, like she's

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<v Speaker 4>so high it like she don't even want to have

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<v Speaker 4>kids anymore after that, and there's a lot more death

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<v Speaker 4>that surrounds her. But I don't want to jump the

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<v Speaker 4>gun haha, punited that, Okay. So William Winchester's father, Oliver,

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<v Speaker 4>buys out a bankrupt revolver company and heires mechanics to

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<v Speaker 4>create the world's first repeating rifle. And it said that

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<v Speaker 4>this gun was super fucking fast. It could fire off

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen shots in ten seconds, and so less than a

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<v Speaker 4>decade later, the Winchester rifle is an icon of the West.

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<v Speaker 4>In the family's wealth X blodes, they become extremely wealthy,

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<v Speaker 4>and so over the next couple of years, Sarah has

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of like weird deaths pop up in her life.

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<v Speaker 4>Her mom, her father in law, and then her husband,

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<v Speaker 4>William Winchester himself dies of tuberculosis. So her daughter, her mom,

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<v Speaker 4>her father in law, and her husband die within like

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<v Speaker 4>a five or six year period.

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<v Speaker 5>Oo, it sounds so special.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't know. I mean, he this

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<v Speaker 4>is why I say, like, if you're surrounded by death

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<v Speaker 4>just like constantly, and then you're named after a dead

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<v Speaker 4>person and I don't know New York like that just

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, you know, no, I yeah, because then I

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<v Speaker 3>started like going and thinking of like weird shit, because

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, I do believe people like kind of

424
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<v Speaker 3>like born for certain reasons when it comes.

425
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, when you get into sick shit.

426
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I mean, I hate to say, but

427
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:20.599
<v Speaker 3>when you see that much death.

428
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Or any that's so wondering, like how much was.

429
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 3>It like supposed to happen?

430
00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

431
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:28.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, of sacrifices, I hate to say it. Who yeah,

432
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:28.960
<v Speaker 5>And to.

433
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 4>Think of their their invention the repeating rifle, like damn

434
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.880
<v Speaker 4>you know that's a death machine.

435
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you know that would be very much like

436
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.000
<v Speaker 3>on the beast side of things, you know, like like

437
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like other reasons why I've been thinking

438
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>we might be heading that way. Is even just the

439
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>shit with Elon Musk and with the rockets, it's very

440
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>like I mean, it's fucking dick firing off. It's very

441
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 3>explosive energy. It's complete opposite side of the left side,

442
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>raw explosive energy. So like we're seeing rockets, I mean

443
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I would consider that's the same shit. Yeah, oh, I

444
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>mean look at you even on Skinwalker Ranch. You got

445
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 3>them shooting rockets up too. I mean, everybody's representing this

446
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.559
<v Speaker 3>phallic energy that has to do with weird shit.

447
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 4>Yes, no, that is a good point. That is a

448
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 4>really good point.

449
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:16.680
<v Speaker 3>So I would even look at the gun as possibly

450
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>even being like, you know, representation of we're playing that

451
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>side of it now.

452
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:26.599
<v Speaker 4>Who knows, Oh yeah, definitely. But as the story goes,

453
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 4>after William Winchester's death, she becomes a recluse and she

454
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 4>just sits in her house in Connecticut. She's inconsolable for years,

455
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.519
<v Speaker 4>and what she's doing during this time is a fucking mystery.

456
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 4>No one knows for sure, And then she pops up

457
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden in eighteen eighty five, out of

458
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:49.640
<v Speaker 4>the blue and just heads to California like inconsolable recluse.

459
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:51.559
<v Speaker 4>No one knows what's going on with her. It's a

460
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 4>total mystery. Wakes up one day, I'm moving to California,

461
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 4>and so she bought her house right right because she

462
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 4>gets in touch with this guy named Ed Rambo who

463
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 4>is an old business associate of her dead.

464
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Wait his name is Ed Rambo?

465
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Was he?

466
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 3>And CALLI? Yes? Oh fuck, that's so well. I think

467
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.599
<v Speaker 3>I could be wrong, you know what. So there was

468
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 3>I forgot where I was covering it. Fuck, I could

469
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:18.119
<v Speaker 3>be wrong.

470
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 5>I may not be California.

471
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 3>There was a thing that we came across when we're

472
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>covering the Order of Quasic Hootal And I could be wrong,

473
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:30.079
<v Speaker 3>but I thought it was like a Balboa Park in California,

474
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and it just seems very like I had all this

475
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 3>occult structure there and it was just like really weird.

476
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 3>And I started even thinking about, like, you know, as

477
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 3>crazy as it sounds, I'm like, well, Rocky Balbo, I'm

478
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 3>like looking at his movies now, but whatever, But I

479
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 3>just think it's it's funny if ifs Rambo and Balbo.

480
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:48.839
<v Speaker 4>Know, the name stuck out to me because I was

481
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 4>like ed Rambo. I was like, this is so funny.

482
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like, is this what Stallone got all these

483
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 3>names from?

484
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 4>That would be he bought up so he and he

485
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 4>was involved with the Winchester family because he was like

486
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 4>a longtime friend of the family and that's why she

487
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 4>reached out to him as was she said like, hey,

488
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 4>I need your help. I want to move to California

489
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 4>and buy a house. And so he took her to

490
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 4>like this desolate area that was considered to be at

491
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 4>the time like an untouched frontier and it was a

492
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>forty five acre ranch surrounded by fruit farms. At the time,

493
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 4>the farmhouse was just an eight bedroom house and it

494
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>was like kind of dilapidated. Yeah, yeah, I know.

495
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 3>They said there was like levels that were like kind

496
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 3>of like ruins just from.

497
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was just dilapidated piece of shit. And she

498
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 4>kept yeah it was. She kept the original structure though,

499
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 4>and just started building onto it.

500
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was like a money pit, but she

501
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>had the money to throw at it and then she

502
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 3>made it into something.

503
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, that and whether it be mental illness or

504
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 4>she was conjuring up some shit. I mean, she built

505
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 4>off of that dilapidated structure. So she hires a construction

506
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 4>team and she designs the remodel herself. Now here's the

507
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 4>part you were waiting for.

508
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's right, the plans, right.

509
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Her plans have zero logic and the workers were never

510
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 4>given architectural blueprints, only Sarah's rough sketches that she channeled. Oh,

511
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 4>she would just show up one day with a sketchbook

512
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 4>and she would say, I channeled this, and this is

513
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 4>what the room is supposed to look like.

514
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe she even told the workers that she

515
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>even show you know, it's good enough that you handed

516
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>on fucking you know artwork, can say make this.

517
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, her servants went to their fucking graves, zipped lips.

518
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 4>They never said a fucking word about what went on

519
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 4>in that mansion a fucking word.

520
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's I mean, just from the stuff that I've seen,

521
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 3>it's like tons of weird architecture in that.

522
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Fucking you got like staircases like going all over the place,

523
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 5>right mm hm, Well they have them like leading to

524
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>nowhere in some parts.

525
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Too, yeah, leading to nowhere. And so by the end

526
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 4>of it, the house has one hundred and sixty rooms,

527
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 4>including forty bedrooms, forty staircases, thirteen bathrooms, six kitchens, ten

528
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>thousand windows, two thousand doors, fifty two skylights, forty seven fireplaces,

529
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 4>three elevators, two basements, and only one shower.

530
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 5>And you said, you said one thousand, what things of windows?

531
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Ten thousand windows, and.

532
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 5>Then you said something two thousand or two something.

533
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Two thousand doors.

534
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 3>Two thousand doors. See, that's weird because like today we

535
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>were covering the Kabbala me and Lox and on the

536
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>first I would consider, well, Cather would be the first

537
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>sphere which I could maybe see that's why there was

538
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>so many fucking windows, even though this is a one.

539
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh those zeros don't really matter, it's just the one

540
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>is there.

541
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 3>There's this there's a guy now that falls on the

542
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 3>second sphere called Chokma and his name is Jennie.

543
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 5>And you could see him depicted with two heads.

544
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>One looking one way, one looking the other way, and

545
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 3>it was almost as if he is like a door.

546
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes he will staying with that key in his hand,

547
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 3>and he is on the second sphere. So I'm wondering

548
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 3>if that's why there's that many doorways to represent.

549
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Who was on the fourth sphere.

550
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 3>That would be another male god. You could say maybe

551
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Zeus or.

552
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 5>I'd have to look at us and maybe Thoor might

553
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 5>even fit there.

554
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because forty bedrooms a moonrah.

555
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 8>I mean you know that's yeah, forty bedrooms, forty staircases,

556
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 8>forty seven fireplaces, So.

557
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean you can actually release something. Was there a

558
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 3>three in there at all? Or A seven?

559
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Thirteen bathrooms, six kitchens, six kitchens, two basements, three elevators.

560
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Three elevators.

561
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we three elevators. I don't know why you'd have

562
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 4>forty fucking bedrooms in only one shower, but I guess.

563
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's interesting. This could be a stretch.

564
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 3>But the sixth sphere in the tree, well, a lot

565
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 3>of the spears all connect to that. And when you're

566
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>in the kitchen, you're putting a whole bunch of shit

567
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 3>together and making something out of it. I mean, that

568
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>could be, but I'm gonna tell you occult this will

569
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 3>think like that though, especially if like, look at this

570
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>lady has worked on her house since the day she

571
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 3>had it, so the day she died, right, she was

572
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 3>always doing something with it. Did the lady? On my opinion,

573
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 3>was burnt the fuck out from magic, like fucking with

574
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 3>it too much, has too much going on in her head,

575
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 3>and she's just constantly needs to do something mm hmm.

576
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 3>She's probably like kind of like half lust and it's

577
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 3>just taking a cult concepts and like I'm just gonna

578
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 3>build it in my house mm hmm. And it's crazy

579
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 3>because people get fucked up like that.

580
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 4>Get this shit. New York the townspeople described her as

581
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 4>fucking bizarre as fuck, and they said they said she dressed, Yeah,

582
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 4>she dressed in all black, wore black gloves, in a

583
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 4>black veil covering her face.

584
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, that would be the black. The first feminine energy

585
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 3>that comes into the Cabala's black. It's the black sear Banah,

586
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>that's the first time. That's like the you know, all

587
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>almighty feminine energy would be black. If she wanted to

588
00:32:58.920 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>dress the black purple.

589
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. So this visually was into some dark shit.

590
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 4>I knew it.

591
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Saturn and gets a lot of black, you know, black brown.

592
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. She never invited anyone over and the only people

593
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 4>besides Sarah herself allowed in the house were her workers

594
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 4>and the servants, which carried the secrets to their deaths.

595
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Of what went on in that house. Nobody ever talked

596
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 4>about it, and even Teddy Roosevelt came to her home

597
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 4>specifically made the trip just to see her, and she

598
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 4>refused to let him in the house.

599
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>What did he go to see her for?

600
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 4>He said he was a gun lover and wanted to

601
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 4>meet the heiress of the Winchester rifle family fortune. Whatever

602
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 4>he wanted to meet her, goes all the way to

603
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 4>San Jose to meet her. Wouldn't let him in the

604
00:33:58.880 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 4>fucking gate.

605
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just find a way that the I

606
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know. Sometimes I don't think people are as naive

607
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 3>as they are, So I just don't like, why would.

608
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 5>The president even want to go see her?

609
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 4>Why?

610
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, you have no idea someone who should know the

611
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 3>you know all this intelligence about the country you're in,

612
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 3>you don't know this lady's weird before you saw heading there.

613
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 4>It's like one day he was sitting there and he

614
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 4>told Eleanor He's like, you know that old lady that

615
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 4>wears the black veil around town, has all those servants

616
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 4>in her house been building on the house constantly for

617
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 4>the past fifteen I want to go visit her and

618
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 4>see what she's doing. Break some bread, have some coffee. No,

619
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 4>this is not happening, Like there's there is something that's

620
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 4>not being said here about that.

621
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think him going to the house

622
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 3>is very fucking weird.

623
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, it is fucking weird. But so I'm sure

624
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.360
<v Speaker 4>you found this while you were watching videos or whatever.

625
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 4>But there was like a humongous earthquake that destroyed.

626
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Like the house, yes, mm hmm.

627
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 4>And it was so fucked that the workers were like, oh,

628
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 4>we gotta start over, like there's no way we can't

629
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 4>save this, and she was like, oh no, we're gonna

630
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 4>save it. And she literally had everything reconstructed after the earthquake,

631
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 4>and she did not start over, like she was like, oh,

632
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.679
<v Speaker 4>this is perfect. We'll just keep remodeling, remodeling, remodeling, We'll

633
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 4>just fix everything. And construction literally never stopped until she died.

634
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 4>And she would say like, if I stop working on

635
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 4>the house, then I'll die. And in nineteen ten, when

636
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.360
<v Speaker 4>the construction slowed down, her health did take a turn

637
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 4>for the worse, and then by the fall of nineteen

638
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen twenty two, she's barely hanging on by a thread.

639
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 4>Makes all the arrangements for her will and then dies

640
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 4>September fifth, nineteen twenty two, in her sleep.

641
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 5>That's wild, that's actually I mean that as soon as

642
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 5>she stopped working on the house and health.

643
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 4>Went yeah, and then she died.

644
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 3>And what was what was the September What was it?

645
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 4>September fifth, nineteen twenty two.

646
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Maybe interesting else happened on that time? Oh well, the

647
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 5>smooth day was too of the week.

648
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 3>It might be interesting.

649
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Friday.

650
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh uh is that you that I told you

651
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>that it was a lot of weird Friday. I noticed

652
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>a lot of weird stuff with that. With a guest

653
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 3>I had on one time.

654
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember.

655
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 3>She was doing a lot of Susan Mary Fine art.

656
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you know who she is.

657
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>She has an Instagram account kind of big. She doesn't

658
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Jumatria a lot. And uh, we had around.

659
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 5>The occult rejects and she started having.

660
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 3>You know, the commonalities. We started noticing, or I did,

661
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 3>because I started looking at some of the dates that

662
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 3>she was showing for people, and I was like, do

663
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 3>you realize a lot of these people all died on Fridays?

664
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Like what the fuck's up with that?

665
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 5>But uh, now this was on a Tuesday.

666
00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know.

667
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Fuck that.

668
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, like I told you, even after she dies,

669
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 4>the servants won't fucking utter a word. And then this

670
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 4>amusement park owner John Brown buys the house after Sarah's

671
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 4>death and turns it into the tourist attraction that everyone

672
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 4>sees today. But so nobody knew what the house looked

673
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 4>like on the inside because nobody was ever allowed to

674
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking go in there, and the servants and people who

675
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 4>worked there would not spill any tea. So until he

676
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 4>turned it into a tourist attraction, nobody knew like what

677
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 4>was really going on in there. Everyone is fixated on

678
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 4>this seance room, right, And here's the details on the

679
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 4>seance room. It has three doors to get in, but

680
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 4>only one door to get out, So one of the

681
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 4>doors is the exit. One door takes you down a

682
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 4>narrow passageway to a closet, and the other door drops

683
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 4>you eight feet into the kitchen below rops you eight

684
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 4>feet Yes, and this is the seance room. Three ways

685
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 4>to get in, only one way to get out. Once

686
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 4>you get in there, one door takes you drops you

687
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 4>eight feet down into the kitchen. The other door takes

688
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 4>you down a narrow ass passage all the way down

689
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 4>to a fucking empty closet.

690
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh I remember seeing that.

691
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

692
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 3>Actually yes, I'm pointing that out, Like it was like

693
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 3>this along the whole way. Is there everything like steps

694
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 3>involved in that and just like went down to like nothing.

695
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 4>It just went down to like an empty closet. Like

696
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 4>literally it was weird. And so have you watched watched

697
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Have you listened to my Laurel Canyon Part one?

698
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, I have not.

699
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, in that episode.

700
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Actually so much fucking crazy shit over there.

701
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, So in that episode I mentioned a little

702
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 4>something about Harry Houdini being involved in weird shit that

703
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 4>goes on in Laurel Canyon, and Harry Houdini himself was

704
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 4>invited for a private tour of the house and was

705
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 4>invited to conduct a seance in the house. Wow, a

706
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 4>private seance. He goes to this closet of Sarah Winchester's robes,

707
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 4>and according to Houdini, she used a different robe for

708
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 4>each spirit that she spoke to. Yeah, does this make

709
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 4>any sense to you, because I'm drawing a blank on

710
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 4>why she would have done that.

711
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh, well, I believe it. When I used to practice

712
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>depending on what day, or what energy I was working

713
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>with would determine what I'm probably wearing over my shit.

714
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm gonna try to match colors to a

715
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>certain extent, or I might just use like a regular

716
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can always you can always just go

717
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 3>with the plain black or plain white, which have a

718
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>way you're feeling. But I mean I.

719
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Had extra stuff where I'd have it on to match.

720
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Like if I was, say I wanted to do something

721
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 3>on a Thursday, I might make sure I have blue

722
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 3>on me somewhere because Thursday or Jupiter, or it could

723
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 3>go for like the sphere of chess set. If I

724
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.079
<v Speaker 3>was even just dealing with cabalistic stuff, I could even

725
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 3>choose blue to go with that, or you know, maybe

726
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 3>purple blue.

727
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 4>Would fit well, so this would make sense.

728
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Then if oh yeah, yeah, that's that's when you want

729
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.480
<v Speaker 3>to get extra or if you're getting very specific, very

730
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 3>specific on stuff. It's kind of like when you want

731
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 3>to get more specific with with stuff in magic, It's

732
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>almost like you're gonna have extra things to get to

733
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 3>mean specific like elements or aspects or or or a

734
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>lot of times you could also be a lot of

735
00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 3>just mental connection, you know what I'm saying, like, you know,

736
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I have a red candle. The red candle may not

737
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 3>be doing anything, but in your mind, the red candle

738
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>represents something. It represents what you're doing. So sometimes you'll

739
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 3>even have a lot of that overlaid just for the

740
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 3>fucking mind.

741
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that makes sense.

742
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Then well no, I would totally say that that that

743
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>is normal if they're probably serious in what they're doing.

744
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I totally would see that.

745
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

746
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 5>Also in the Gaistia, I don't know if you've ever

747
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 5>heard the Gayshia.

748
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 3>That is like a book of seventy two demons that

749
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 3>you will have to uh that that you can raise

750
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and kind of bind in a triangle and take control

751
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>of it and you know, supposedly get stuff out of

752
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>it or whatever. Each one of those all have their

753
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 3>specific signs and all like their little things that are different.

754
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I depending on how this person was

755
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 3>looking at her, I mean, that could be a perfect

756
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 3>example if she was working with that stuff. Every time

757
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>she worked with a specific demon, she would have a

758
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 3>different outfit as well, in different things.

759
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh fuck.

760
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 3>Like, because like you're because what you're also gonna do

761
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 3>is you're gonna go in front of it with its sigil,

762
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 3>saying like, I'm controlling you as well. So you know,

763
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 3>if a person is just looking at a design that

764
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>you're wearing on your shirt and doesn't fully understand it,

765
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>they could still consider that different outfits where it's like,

766
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 3>well it's maybe the same row. I just got a

767
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 3>different fucking sign on that. You know what I'm saying, Yeah.

768
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>Because you had, because there's that specific.

769
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 3>They have their own signs and you got to use

770
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.320
<v Speaker 3>their own ship to some you know, evoke them.

771
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 5>You know.

772
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 4>See that's what I'm talking about, New York. I knew

773
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 4>you were to have on this fucking episode. Yeah, that

774
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 4>makes so much sense. Okay, now your thoughts on a

775
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 4>place called the Hall of Fires. It's literally a corridor.

776
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 4>You open the door and it's got four fireplaces in it.

777
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 4>That's it. What do you think about this? Four specific

778
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 4>fireplaces and yeah, corridor.

779
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 3>For would go back to again. That is the on

780
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the Kabolatry of Life. First three spheres. I found the

781
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 3>same on Troum interesting because you said it had three

782
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 3>this the top of the tree. The first three spheres

783
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 3>are all in the spirit form for the most part.

784
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 3>The third one is kind of like half in and

785
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 3>half out. That's the spirit kind of world being birthed

786
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>into this world, or vice versa. But the first three

787
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 3>really are of like spirit and out of body. So

788
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I can see the seance room having three associated with it.

789
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Now the four now, the third sphere would be the

790
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 3>feminine energy that burts you into this world. The first

791
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 3>masculine sphere is going to be number four and fire.

792
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>You get fire and air is for male, and you

793
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.199
<v Speaker 3>have a water and earth for female when it comes

794
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 3>to representing stuff, So the four fires I could see

795
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 3>maybe representing that in a sense. You know, Chess said, males,

796
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 3>you maal.

797
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 4>You know what they said? She fucking used it for

798
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 4>what to dry her laundry? My ass, Come on, New York,

799
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 4>you're looking at me crazy, like that's even that's preposterous

800
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 4>that she used it to dry the laundry.

801
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.000
<v Speaker 3>But again, the crazy thing is is that to her,

802
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 3>she would just be like, oh, I'm drying my laundry

803
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 3>and it's representing a fucking this something occult to me,

804
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Like yo, it could be that fucking she could have

805
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:36.239
<v Speaker 3>been that off, you could really, I mean, I hope not.

806
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I just hope that's just a bad excuse of what

807
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 3>she was using.

808
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 4>A horrible excuse.

809
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 3>But the long hallway that yeah, it's even like again

810
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 3>almost a phallic symbol, you know what.

811
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, now that that's what I was.

812
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 3>She could have even like, well, you know, that could

813
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 3>have been like a fucking what I was even gonna say,

814
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 3>like that long hallway even going.

815
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 5>To like a cabin or whatever you said, closet.

816
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 3>These things could have been alters of shrines, you know

817
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, that whole way with the four fucking things,

818
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 3>that could have been like a specific Now if I

819
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 3>was rich, I guess, you know, and I was still practicing,

820
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>this is what I would do. Like I was saying before,

821
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 3>when I worked with certain spheres on the tree, I

822
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 3>had certain things that would go with it, certain colors,

823
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>this and that. I guess if I had the money,

824
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, I instead of setting up a different altar

825
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 3>every time I want to change it, I just would

826
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, make one and leave it and maybe go

827
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 3>have another room and put my other one in there,

828
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, so I could just keep building upon it

829
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and never take it down. That could have been specifically

830
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 3>like like me just for that sphere, for those experiences,

831
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 3>for that stuff with the aballa, that room could have

832
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 3>just been whenever she wanted to work with chess.

833
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm, oh yeah.

834
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, because that's I'm just getting like things that

835
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 3>I could see as being a magician, Like if you

836
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 3>had money, things that would make it easier for you, Yeah,

837
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 3>if you wanted to be extra.

838
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, she had endless amounts of money. And I

839
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 4>mean psychics and mediums and people have been in there

840
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 4>and they say they detect a lot of demonic activity.

841
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 4>But the one thing I wanted to end it with

842
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 4>is that, or not ended with. But this is a

843
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:20.880
<v Speaker 4>closing thought for like the part about her. After William died,

844
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 4>Sarah goes to this Boston medium named Adam Coons and

845
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 4>asked him to summon William's spirit And basically this Adam

846
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 4>Kuhns conveyed messages to Sarah from William, one of them

847
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 4>being a warning, and William said that Sarah was in

848
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 4>great danger and she would be forever haunted by the

849
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 4>spirits of every soul killed by the Winchester rifle unless

850
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 4>she built them a home a vessel. And some even

851
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 4>say that the way Sarah designed the home was to

852
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 4>act as a laborateth to confuse the spirits so they

853
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 4>would not be able to find her your thoughts.

854
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Oh shit, I mean, I mean I can see that

855
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 5>making sense. Uh.

856
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was just thinking before too. You know,

857
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned the gaatia. I could see maybe using some

858
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 3>of those things in there to have conversations with the

859
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 3>other side as well. So you know, I'm wondering, like now,

860
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.679
<v Speaker 3>really wondering what she kind of maybe fucking with you

861
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 3>fucked up entities to do what she was doing.

862
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 4>I think she will.

863
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh. And if you were and I guess, if I guess,

864
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 3>if structure does have some sort of an influence on

865
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 3>these entities, I mean, it would totally make sense. I mean,

866
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'd be trying to confuse the fuck out.

867
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I need some sleep.

868
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, think of it. It really is like a laborateth,

869
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.599
<v Speaker 4>like you go up a staircase and fu ceiling or

870
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 4>something like weird shit like, oh, I'm just gonna open

871
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 4>this door twenty foot drop to your death on the sidewalk.

872
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Yo. It wasn't there one going out like the side

873
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:10.440
<v Speaker 3>of the house.

874
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And it looked like it would have just been

875
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 4>a bathroom or something.

876
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah, I forgot about it that. She cracked me

877
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 5>up when I saw that kill.

878
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a door on the fucking outside, Yes, and it

879
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't locked, you could just open it.

880
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

881
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.559
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Yo, could you imagine walking the fuck

882
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 3>out of it?

883
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine?

884
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Like?

885
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, how did you how did they die? Well, they

886
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 4>were at Sarah Winchester's house and they had to take

887
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 4>a shit and they ended up opening a door in

888
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 4>the hallway that just went right outside and they splattered

889
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 4>themselves on the sidewalk. The fuck.

890
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 3>No, that reminds me of it. I don't know where

891
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>this show took place. I hope you maybe you know

892
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 3>what the name you remember this, but you probably don't.

893
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.800
<v Speaker 3>It was a really shitty movie. Do you remember nothing

894
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 3>but trouble?

895
00:48:58.639 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Didn't it have Chevy cha?

896
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

897
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:02.559
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

898
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 5>And they were they were like in some weird house.

899
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering where it took place. Uh, it's like

900
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 3>some kind of like like they went to.

901
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

902
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Dan Ackroyd was like the judge.

903
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh, he played like a bunch of different people.

904
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>But somehow like him. And uh, I forgot this chick's name, Uh,

905
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Demi moore him and Demi Moore end up like Chivy

906
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Chase and Demi Moore end up in front of uh

907
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>dan Ackroyd as like a judge and like they're trying

908
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 3>to break out of the fucking place and it's like

909
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 3>all these weird like amazing ship inside the whole house

910
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 3>to get out.

911
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was weird movies. And there was like some

912
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 4>weird hot dog train.

913
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 3>That was disgusting.

914
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 4>It was like a weird hang out.

915
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I'm trying to I think it might have

916
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 3>taken place take like around New York. So I was

917
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 3>just wondering, like, yo, imagine this shit's like this took

918
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 3>place over in California near the same.

919
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:08.639
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't fucking surprise.

920
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think so, but I did check though.

921
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 3>It was interesting. Just popped into my head.

922
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, my mom was obsessed with that movie and

923
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 4>we laughed at the same like five parts over and

924
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 4>over again. Yeah. But my final little snippet that I

925
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 4>have here is about that dude named Aiden Sinclair who

926
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 4>is putting on magic shows at the Mansion to this day,

927
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 4>and he calls himself an illusionist. But my question, first off,

928
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 4>is Sinclair as in the same Sinclair's that trace their

929
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 4>bloodline back through the Saint Clair family, being descendants of

930
00:50:51.639 --> 00:51:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Jesus and Mary Magdalen Wow and Claire the Illusionist in

931
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 4>the Winchester Mansion.

932
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 3>See sometimes like I wonder, like, all right with the house?

933
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, is it part of the architecture in what

934
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:10.840
<v Speaker 3>she was doing inside the house?

935
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Could it be a mixture of that.

936
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 3>In lay lines or maybe something specific with that area?

937
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Is this some sort of maybe almost like magnetic.

938
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Field that if you were defeated, helps.

939
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.039
<v Speaker 3>It create things that you know, So that could all

940
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 3>be there, So like other people could probably go there

941
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.639
<v Speaker 3>and if they understand what they're doing, kind of take

942
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 3>advantage of like maybe a hotspot, Like I.

943
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Think about it in New York, she could have fucking

944
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 4>open up a portal in that motherfucker. And just as

945
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 4>a side note, this Sinclair family, who traces their bloodline

946
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 4>back through the Saint Clair's were a part of the

947
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 4>priory of Sion who practiced her metic black magic. Think

948
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 4>about it.

949
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I listen. I mean, if I was

950
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to have goes to Wuipment and hours to go there,

951
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 3>I'd be doing it completely different than everybody else because

952
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 3>I'd be expecting to be finding shit, and I'd probably

953
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 3>do shit to try to get it to come out.

954
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 3>But I'm pretty sure that there is residual energy in

955
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 3>places like those. That's why I was trying to get

956
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 3>out before neither from things that they've done.

957
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Was it already predisposed from where it.

958
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Was built, how the house is built, and you could

959
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 3>just never change it unless you're to break it down

960
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 3>because of the geometry, you know, whatever reason. I do

961
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 3>think that, like, uh, I even think, like totally honest

962
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 3>with you, like, all right, I put it this way.

963
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 3>If Zach Beggins ends up this and then yeah, there's

964
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 3>some fucking weird occult ism probably going on because he

965
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 3>just has been there. Oh how's you go?

966
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.639
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, he's already been there.

967
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck yo, Yo, seriously, I do watch his shit

968
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and I but I you know, and I'll knock him too.

969
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 3>He's very good at what he does. I just don't

970
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 3>really can't. I think it's horrible, but he is good

971
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.400
<v Speaker 3>at what he does. But I think, honestly, in my opinion,

972
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 3>I do think he's into the occult and this is

973
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 3>why this places he chooses to go because he thinks

974
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 3>it's a hot spot or what I was getting at

975
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 3>me as a magician, I would go to these places

976
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe knowing that if I feed it a little bit something,

977
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 3>can I get a reaction as well?

978
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Or can I manifest something as well? So I do

979
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.079
<v Speaker 5>think you have magicians out.

980
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 3>There showing you paranormal silly shit, but they're actually neither

981
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 3>hoping they find something or they're trying to use that

982
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 3>area to create something. And let's just eve can get

983
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 3>on film, you know?

984
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, And I've always said, like Zach from Ghost Adventures,

985
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 4>like could they not have found a more attractive guy?

986
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Like they had to put this ugly motherfucker up? Was

987
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 4>there even an interview with this guy?

988
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? When he was younger, at least he looked like

989
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 3>he was. Well. Then again, I mean to me, it

990
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 3>was obvious he was juiced up, but like, at least

991
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 3>younger he was in better shape. But even then, I

992
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 3>guess if women realized he was like kind of a juice,

993
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>that might have still not have helped.

994
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like a two out of ten. So I

995
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 4>don't know, I've never I've never liked it, but the

996
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.599
<v Speaker 4>show was cool for what it.

997
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Is obviously, Oh yeah, it's entertainment.

998
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just entertainment, not retarded. It's funny.

999
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh, we don't want to go in there.

1000
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 3>And Aaron, you know, really always in areas. Yeah, he

1001
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 3>has the He's the most like animated, comical like person

1002
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.159
<v Speaker 3>I think in that field.

1003
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Really Okay, So what do you think about The Dead

1004
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 4>Files with Amy?

1005
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sons so many memes. I love the eyes. I

1006
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 3>love the eyes. She's got crazy eyes. But you know what,

1007
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 3>I think she's legit. I do too, Yeah, well, and

1008
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.440
<v Speaker 3>you know legit where she I think she understands magic

1009
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 3>for sure. I think she can pick up things. Now,

1010
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 3>how theatrical is she? I don't know that, you know,

1011
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know to the degree of that, but I

1012
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 3>definitely do think that woman she's legit.

1013
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've always loved The Dead five.

1014
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean even I forgot who did I I saw

1015
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 3>somebody some other show had the dude from The Dead

1016
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Files on for like a two minute guest and it

1017
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.440
<v Speaker 3>was like this other show that's only been out for

1018
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 3>a few years. I'm like, you know, so it was

1019
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 3>just kind of funny, how like they even busted his chops,

1020
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Like yo, you guys have been out of for so long,

1021
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:26.199
<v Speaker 3>but just never got that break. If you really think

1022
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 3>about it, they're actually out of all those shows, they

1023
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.880
<v Speaker 3>really aren't. They kind of are like the most least

1024
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 3>known in my.

1025
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Opinion, And I wonder because is it, you know, maybe like.

1026
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 3>She's a little bit legit and unless she unless she

1027
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of picks a team, she just won't get anywhere.

1028
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why more people aren't watching that as

1029
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 4>opposed to Ghost Adventures, because I feel like the stuff

1030
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.000
<v Speaker 4>that she finds is way more.

1031
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I've actually thought about trying to contact the guys, you know,

1032
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.280
<v Speaker 3>if I can get them on my Showlder.

1033
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:06.800
<v Speaker 4>The investigator, the detective. Yeah, he's really like no nonsense

1034
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of guy, Like he'll go.

1035
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I just think it would sound funny that both of us,

1036
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, But and just

1037
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.599
<v Speaker 3>to hear like, because I'm sure there's like this stuff

1038
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 3>that just maybe didn't make the show that he could

1039
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>still talk about, you know what I'm saying.

1040
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, think about like what you do for

1041
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 4>a living as you travel around with the psychic medium,

1042
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.360
<v Speaker 4>going to haunted houses talking to people, then you find

1043
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 4>out it's all real death certificates, stuff about the property,

1044
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 4>and like it for me. It's just how could he not,

1045
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know. Maybe he does believe in it,

1046
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe he doesn't. He always says he's like a skeptic

1047
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. But I would be two episodes in and

1048
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.119
<v Speaker 4>be full sold out like believer, like yes, this woman

1049
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 4>is seeing some shit, you know what I'm saying.

1050
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you can even put it as easy as this.

1051
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is this is a like I don't

1052
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.519
<v Speaker 3>picture myself like going this serious, but eventually, hopefully by

1053
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 3>next year, I do plan on buying some paranormal equipment

1054
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 3>because I do actually want to try to like prove

1055
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>in certain ways magic, you know. And if I had

1056
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 3>that type of stuff, I mean, and people told me,

1057
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 3>like if I had the equipment, like serious equipment, and

1058
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:26.960
<v Speaker 3>if people told me like listen, you know, I think

1059
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 3>my house might be wanted or there's something weird going on,

1060
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would legit just go there, and I

1061
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 3>would no lie probably for free, just to see if

1062
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I can study and pick something up. I would go

1063
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and go set up and do that type of shit,

1064
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 3>because to me, it would be like me trying to

1065
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 3>study and show magic or magic more for me, not

1066
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 3>so much paranormal, but like I could see how somebody like,

1067
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 3>so what I'm getting out of somebody who's into used

1068
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 3>to be into magic, used to be a ceremonial magician.

1069
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.079
<v Speaker 3>I would actually love doing that. It's not something I

1070
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 3>would get into. I got my podcasts instead, But that

1071
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.480
<v Speaker 3>would really interest me a lot because it would be

1072
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 3>almost like me going out with toys and trying to

1073
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>scientifically now prove magic instead of me.

1074
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 5>Doing all my little shit that I used to do.

1075
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you know, like it's kind of like I

1076
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 3>understand I have an idea maybe of what magic and

1077
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the paranormal is, and I think I might be able

1078
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 3>to prove it with science with these machines. That would

1079
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 3>be me, and like, for all you know, that could

1080
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 3>be her and she just got a little bit of

1081
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:30.920
<v Speaker 3>popularity and got on TV.

1082
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 4>I think she's awesome.

1083
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, I think I think she's a real deal.

1084
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying anything bad negative about her. I

1085
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.679
<v Speaker 3>don't know that well, but I do definitely think I

1086
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 3>will give her credit. I think she is one of

1087
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:42.719
<v Speaker 3>the few that actually is gifted.

1088
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would agree with that one hundred percent. So

1089
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 4>what do you think about the spirit box or whatever

1090
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.400
<v Speaker 4>it's like basically like the white noise. You ask a question,

1091
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:55.840
<v Speaker 4>the answer kind of comes through in some type of like.

1092
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.840
<v Speaker 3>There's certain ones that I'm I'm not a fan of,

1093
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately not to be. I'll fucking bang on Zach again.

1094
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 3>But the kind of one like they have one, I

1095
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:09.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know if maybe I'm confused with the type of

1096
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 3>box it is, but it's like too much and too loud,

1097
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 3>and it just seems like you could pick up so much.

1098
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 3>And then there's other ones that it just sounds like

1099
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 3>it's more of like kind of like white noise and

1100
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 3>just things kind of coming in and out.

1101
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to explain. Some of them I would, uh.

1102
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I would use. I don't know how much I would

1103
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 3>value it, But there's definitely the ones I would not

1104
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 3>use because I think it's just spitting out too much

1105
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 3>random shit, or it's just made to spit out random

1106
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 3>shit so people buy it.

1107
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna ask you that, like it's made for TV.

1108
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what the thing is too, you know,

1109
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.880
<v Speaker 3>from what I've even started noticing from having some paranoral

1110
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 3>investigators on my show, you'd actually be surprised how a

1111
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of that equipment is actually kind of what almost

1112
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 3>directly from somebody who makes it as well.

1113
00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Mm okay, so like you know, yeah, so.

1114
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:03.519
<v Speaker 3>There's no like all, you know, or it could be real,

1115
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, legit for real, which you know I'm sure

1116
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 3>was out there, but I mean, you know you have

1117
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 3>no ise.

1118
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no ghost ear us. You just go and

1119
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:11.559
<v Speaker 4>pick up.

1120
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean you can, you can buy this shit online.

1121
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.880
<v Speaker 3>But I like anybody that I know that's like, uh,

1122
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.360
<v Speaker 3>you can even see Zach or anybody professional. They'll probably

1123
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 3>if you're watching ghost Hunters, Ghost Adventures, any of those shows,

1124
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 3>at some point they'll probably mention a piece of equipment

1125
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 3>that they bought from a specific person, you know, and uh,

1126
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:33.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not like a store, you know, somebody actually made

1127
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 3>you know.

1128
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, put that a lot on a lot of ghost shows.

1129
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 3>And and plus the people that I've had on my

1130
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.119
<v Speaker 3>own show, I've noticed that. So you have to also

1131
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 3>want to like, you know, is it even working right?

1132
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Did you like Ghost Hunters?

1133
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I liked them at first for a while.

1134
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 4>What were they called TAPS.

1135
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Transatlantic Paranormal.

1136
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:57.559
<v Speaker 4>Society Yeah, yeah, mm hmm or something like that.

1137
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Don't know, Uh, yeah, I like them a lot at

1138
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:05.639
<v Speaker 3>first because, uh, they seemed to debunk a lot. A

1139
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.360
<v Speaker 3>lot at least, like I knew they weren't trying to

1140
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.639
<v Speaker 3>sell me. I'm like, wow, you know, and sometimes you

1141
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:13.599
<v Speaker 3>actually got a whole episode that just kind of sucked,

1142
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.679
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, well, you know, at least

1143
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was like somewhat kind of you know,

1144
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.719
<v Speaker 3>not descripted. I think eventually it just got just like

1145
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 3>the rest. But uh, and.

1146
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's what I've heard why they even broke up.

1147
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how truthful that was, because one didn't

1148
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.039
<v Speaker 3>want to do that anymore the other one did. I

1149
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know. That was one of the very few shows

1150
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.079
<v Speaker 3>that when I was like kind of like in the

1151
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.960
<v Speaker 3>later teens, that I actually like specifically watched.

1152
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 4>I watched it in I watched it in elementary school,

1153
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 4>so I'm I'm a little bit younger, but I do

1154
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 4>remember watching it as a kid and being like, they

1155
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.760
<v Speaker 4>never see any fucking ghosts on this show. Like it

1156
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.119
<v Speaker 4>was always just like why do I do.

1157
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:55.920
<v Speaker 3>In every week? And then when they did give you

1158
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 3>a bo you thought it was exciting, right, I.

1159
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Was so sided. Every Wednesday the ghost us and then

1160
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 4>it was like they never saw a fucking ghosts, but

1161
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 4>it was still cool because it was one of the

1162
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 4>first shows like that.

1163
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just funny though when you

1164
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 3>look back at it too. One thing I did think

1165
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 3>was weird. It was like I was like, Yo, the

1166
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.639
<v Speaker 3>whole Rota Ruder thing, like that had to be bullshit.

1167
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they always check. They'd always check the fucking toilet

1168
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 4>and in every fucking house that they went in, and

1169
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:31.199
<v Speaker 4>they'd be like, I'm having ghost activity, Well is your

1170
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 4>toilet clong?

1171
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I think Rota Rud was just a big sponsor of

1172
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 3>THEIRS when they first started to help pay for the

1173
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 3>course of the show. I'm sure, because I really don't.

1174
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 3>I was like, come on, like, why are you getting

1175
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 3>that whole Like why did you even have to take

1176
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 3>that whole angle? But for the most part, I did

1177
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.159
<v Speaker 3>think the show was kind of like okay because it

1178
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:53.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't seem over the top for a while. I think

1179
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 3>it lasted a long time. It was a little bit

1180
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 3>of weird shit that they kind of did. I think

1181
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.320
<v Speaker 3>almost reality TV is with some of the character is.

1182
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, like the first I think season or two,

1183
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 3>they ended up getting rid of that one gig because

1184
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it was just like a constant problem. He's having problems

1185
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.159
<v Speaker 3>with this girl's having problems working with people on the show.

1186
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah. Then there's that one kid that started

1187
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.760
<v Speaker 3>liking the fucking chick that was there, and yeah, we

1188
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 3>can't be having that. It was like a little bit

1189
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 3>of a kind of reality TV tourist in there. That

1190
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 3>shit that was kind of like, ah, man, don't do that.

1191
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, for the most.

1192
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:30.159
<v Speaker 4>Part, in the Ghost Assholes New York, this is the

1193
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 4>this is the part of the job. I ask you

1194
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 4>some personal questions about you. Okay, sure, and now this

1195
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 4>is going to be part of my spectacular for October.

1196
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 4>So what was your favorite thing you dressed up as

1197
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:48.119
<v Speaker 4>for Halloween as a kid?

1198
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1199
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 5>Man, the only thing I can really well that I remember.

1200
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess that I kind of liked. I think got Dracula,

1201
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 3>but like that was like kind of like my idea

1202
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 3>and I kind of stuck with that. But like once

1203
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I got to a certain age, I really didn't dress

1204
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 3>up anymore. So that's like really the only thing I

1205
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:06.639
<v Speaker 3>can think of.

1206
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:08.599
<v Speaker 4>Was it a homemade costume?

1207
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, it was like a mixture of like stuff from

1208
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the store, and like my mom, it all like the

1209
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 3>fucking ye blood. And my mom loved Halloween, so I

1210
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 3>was like, too, yeah, that was all.

1211
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Actually I had fucking blood coming all over.

1212
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 4>The Yeah, did your mom take you to the rich neighborhood?

1213
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 4>Did trick or treat?

1214
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh? No, that's funny because like I like I people,

1215
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I know people who have done that, and that's that

1216
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 3>is Like that was like a thing like even on

1217
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:40.679
<v Speaker 3>Long Island, like you could be in a decent area

1218
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 3>and then like go fifteen minutes and then like be

1219
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 3>in somewhere like I could never afford here, so like

1220
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 3>you could just even take like a ride fifteen to

1221
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:48.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes away and end up in some like little

1222
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.320
<v Speaker 3>area that like I'm sure you're gonna do a lot

1223
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 3>better off you're not going to those doors.

1224
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, my mom would take us to this place

1225
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 4>in Kentucky. It was like where all the doctors and

1226
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 4>people live, and they would only open the gates for Halloween,

1227
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 4>So nobody could really go into the neighborhod unless you

1228
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 4>lived there, But for Halloween they would open the gates

1229
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 4>and like they'd give us like candy apples and like

1230
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:17.119
<v Speaker 4>those big, humongous chocolate bars for like cooking and just

1231
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:21.599
<v Speaker 4>the most extravagant trick or treating ever, And I just

1232
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 4>always thought it was funny because she'd be like, We're

1233
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna go trick or treating in the rich neighborhood.

1234
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, I have plenty of times I've

1235
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 3>heard of that.

1236
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:33.239
<v Speaker 1>No.

1237
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 5>With me, with the kid, I was just I think

1238
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.880
<v Speaker 5>we kind of just stayed in our area.

1239
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 4>It Wasula, Yeah, Dracula, Son of the Devil. Really nice.

1240
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Your favorite Halloween candy? Are you chocolate guy or Snickers,

1241
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 4>Peanut butter cups, peanut butter cup.

1242
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm not into candy corn or.

1243
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Hell fucking no, it tastes like toothpaste.

1244
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was much more like, uh, you know, if

1245
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 3>I got like.

1246
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Eminem's with the small little candy bar things, I'm cool

1247
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:14.039
<v Speaker 5>with that.

1248
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 3>I was really never into like a lot of the

1249
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 3>chewining candy and stuff.

1250
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 4>No, sour Patch kids, Oh no, those are all right.

1251
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 3>No, those I actually do like those. It's just it's

1252
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.360
<v Speaker 3>not something I think about. But if I would have them, sure.

1253
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 4>And then, of course the honorary question of the show

1254
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:40.159
<v Speaker 4>is what is your favorite scary movie? Oh or show?

1255
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 5>Scary movie show? Yeah, that's a good question. Scary movie, Well,

1256
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 5>oh fucking I can't even say that. It's so silly.

1257
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say the Blay of Witch, because I

1258
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:56.719
<v Speaker 5>thought it was real when I saw it, But it's

1259
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 5>like so embarrassing. I can't believe.

1260
01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm just I thought it was real when I saw it,

1261
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 3>as Yeah, because I like literally saw the day over

1262
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the day after and didn't know until a few days

1263
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.280
<v Speaker 3>after the fact. I think I read like the newspaper

1264
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 3>or something.

1265
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh man, yeah, what a letdown, prick.

1266
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Far because at the time I thought that was the

1267
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 3>creepiest shit. Uh. My favorite horror movie, yeah, you know

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01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 3>what would probably uh hmmm, I don't know, all right,

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01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I can't say favor, but if I was to suggest,

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01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I guess maybe we have. My favorite would probably be

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01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 3>the Rob Zombie Halloween.

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01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's the first time I've gotten that. So good.

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01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I love original answers.

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01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he definitely stepped up Halloween and Michael Myers and

1275
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.639
<v Speaker 3>spun occultism all over that shit. M Really, he did

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01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 3>a great job and really making something that in my opinion,

1277
01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:59.199
<v Speaker 3>was already on that, you know, to that extent, he

1278
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 3>really like put a lot of work into adding a lot.

1279
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they made a horror movie about the Winchester Rifle Mansion.

1280
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw that on that site. You sent it

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01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.840
<v Speaker 3>to me too, Yes, I.

1282
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 4>Mean of course I watched it.

1283
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.800
<v Speaker 5>It was the whole thing available, or was or would

1284
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 5>you have to pay for it?

1285
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1286
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I think you have to pay for it, but it

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01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.680
<v Speaker 4>works on Netflix for free for a time. And that's

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01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:33.239
<v Speaker 4>what it was. Embellished obviously, because nobody really knows what

1289
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.319
<v Speaker 4>she was doing in there, because she didn't never let

1290
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 4>anyone in, and anyone who worked there never said anything,

1291
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 4>so obviously everything in the movie is conjecture. But basically

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01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:49.079
<v Speaker 4>she would trap the spirits in these rooms and like

1293
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:52.479
<v Speaker 4>she put a certain number of nails in the door,

1294
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 4>you know. But you know how sometimes they can take

1295
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 4>something that's true and even add more like a cult

1296
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.399
<v Speaker 4>shit to it by putting little clues and stuff in.

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01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.119
<v Speaker 4>I felt like that's what they were doing with the movie.

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Interested I have to see.

1299
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.840
<v Speaker 4>If I can watch it, because she would be like

1300
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:16.600
<v Speaker 4>this room is for this spirit and this door needs

1301
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 4>to get nine nails, you know what I mean. It

1302
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:23.680
<v Speaker 4>was weird like that.

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01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 3>This is when I'm getting out where like she legit

1304
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.720
<v Speaker 3>could have had a different type of room for different

1305
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.279
<v Speaker 3>energies that she was working with, Like on the Tree

1306
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 3>of Life you would would have nine at least nine

1307
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:41.680
<v Speaker 3>rooms probably mm hmm. So uh, it's very that's very weird,

1308
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 3>and I like nails are very symbolic.

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01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm like kind of like grounding you to this plane

1310
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:49.119
<v Speaker 5>or bringing.

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01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.399
<v Speaker 3>You back mm hmm.

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01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 4>I think she was into some dark ship for sure.

1313
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, the more you talk about was like

1314
01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.720
<v Speaker 3>the definitely being specific. I'm like really questioning like if

1315
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 3>like the Gaatia like you were saying before, or she

1316
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 3>was definitely fucking around with stuff for sure. But I

1317
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 3>definitely think she might have been. I mean, you can

1318
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:11.800
<v Speaker 3>even get into an Okio magic she might have been doing,

1319
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 3>and then that's a whole fucking uesome serious shit, which

1320
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:17.560
<v Speaker 3>could be why this so much weird shit with that house,

1321
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.720
<v Speaker 3>because that is some pretty like you know, if you

1322
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.600
<v Speaker 3>get into an Okia magic, in my opinion, you are

1323
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 3>like really going out there to anxtent.

1324
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Let's just say that she didn't do anything by accident.

1325
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:34.840
<v Speaker 4>It was all on purpose, right, never a blueprint, only

1326
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 4>a sketch that was channeled all of this. I saw

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01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 4>this one YouTube video where this guy who was like

1328
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:47.800
<v Speaker 4>into architecture, said she was doing all this and it

1329
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 4>made perfect sense because she was putting windows here to

1330
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:53.960
<v Speaker 4>let light into the lower floors, and it would make

1331
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:56.840
<v Speaker 4>sense to put a door here. And as he was talking,

1332
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.520
<v Speaker 4>he was making himself look like an ass, like there's

1333
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:04.560
<v Speaker 4>no reason on fucking planet fucking Earth it makes sense

1334
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 4>to put trap doors that drop down thirteen feet. Like

1335
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 4>people always try to debunk stuff that cannot be fucking debunked, you.

1336
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:16.039
<v Speaker 3>Know what, Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's all I was

1337
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:18.600
<v Speaker 3>getting in too when I had watched whatever I watched.

1338
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:20.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like they skimmed over a shit that I think

1339
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 3>that you and me would just be like, oh, hold up,

1340
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 3>can we go back? You're right like that. I don't

1341
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.520
<v Speaker 3>think that's just so cut and dry, like let me look.

1342
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly. So there's some demonic shit. Nobody needs

1343
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.159
<v Speaker 4>to go there unless you are prepared to leave with something.

1344
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Probably that's an unfortunate part of that is, you know,

1345
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:46.600
<v Speaker 3>especially very you know, weak minded person, and that's not

1346
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 3>knocking anybody, you know, or maybe if you have like

1347
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:53.119
<v Speaker 3>just like certain mental illness, or if you're just very

1348
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.560
<v Speaker 3>scared of depressed. Unfortunately, people like that to a very

1349
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:59.479
<v Speaker 3>easy target, and they can walk away worse than they

1350
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:00.520
<v Speaker 3>did do it in there.

1351
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.479
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. Well would you say this is a selfish question,

1352
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 4>but like if you were gonna go like on a

1353
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:13.239
<v Speaker 4>ghost tour or something like that, do you do anything

1354
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.039
<v Speaker 4>like to put the shield up me?

1355
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I was to go, I you know,

1356
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't even think I would. I'd probably

1357
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.720
<v Speaker 3>just believe it or not. I mean, depending, I guess,

1358
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 3>depending on where I'm going.

1359
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 5>If somebody was like, hey, you want to come here?

1360
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh, for the most part, I think I would probably

1361
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:33.960
<v Speaker 3>just walk in and just if I felt uncomfortable, then

1362
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.880
<v Speaker 3>new to leave and then reassess the situation. But I think, honestly,

1363
01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 3>for the most part, I probably would just walk straight

1364
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:44.560
<v Speaker 3>into a place. But if I had to, I mean, listen,

1365
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.159
<v Speaker 3>if somebody thought that place was fucked up and I

1366
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:50.039
<v Speaker 3>thought it was fucked up, I mean, I mean, I guess,

1367
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:52.079
<v Speaker 3>to be totally honest with you, I mean, if somebody

1368
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Speaker 3>really believed it was desperate, I mean, I would even

1369
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 3>probably try to try vanishing stuff, basically manishing stuff, and

1370
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I would approach the situation that way. Okay, but you know,

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01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like, uh, I mean I don't know.

1372
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:09.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would go into a place like

1373
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.239
<v Speaker 3>really that that worried, because like I think I would,

1374
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I would know something's wrong before it got bad, you

1375
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, and then I would just decide

1376
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:23.159
<v Speaker 3>is this worth me going any farther? But I mean no,

1377
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:26.399
<v Speaker 3>if if I wanted to, I mean, even a basic

1378
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:30.600
<v Speaker 3>meditation and just visualizing a shield around me or bowl

1379
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:33.800
<v Speaker 3>around me for a while and then going, that could

1380
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:35.359
<v Speaker 3>be even good enough sometimes.

1381
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Or I could wear a certain uh.

1382
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would even be open to wearing like

1383
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.600
<v Speaker 3>certain oils or carrying certain crystals with you. I mean,

1384
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 3>there is there is ways that you could approach that

1385
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:47.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff and protect yourself.

1386
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I probably I would probably.

1387
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Go to the extent of trying if it was definitely

1388
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:54.399
<v Speaker 3>like really worth it, you know.

1389
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I always just worry because like there's a lot

1390
01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 2>of places that you go on an even day to

1391
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 2>day basic even maybe somebody's house that you think you know,

1392
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're on the right.

1393
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you literally could just go to someone's house that

1394
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.239
<v Speaker 3>you know of from me and not even realize that

1395
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 3>shit's like affecting you.

1396
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 5>Actually, yeah, are actually bothering you or like screwing.

1397
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Up, like like like what if there's like you're the

1398
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000
<v Speaker 3>friend's fine, but like the parents, like you have no

1399
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 3>idea what kind of energy is going on in that house.

1400
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.439
<v Speaker 5>That could be you know, affecting just a person in general.

1401
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have crystals by my door, my front door,

1402
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.640
<v Speaker 4>for like I don't want nobody coming up in her,

1403
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:38.640
<v Speaker 4>and they have some weird shit on them.

1404
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, You could easily really I

1405
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 3>hate to say it, just sometimes people like again, like

1406
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I was getting out, I guess like if you were

1407
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 3>somebody who like lived in fear or hate or shame,

1408
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 3>you're when you when you're when you're not like that

1409
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 3>and you're around the person like that, you always do

1410
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of feel like the kind of an awkwardness or

1411
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:59.680
<v Speaker 3>an uncomfortability if you pick up on energy, you know

1412
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 3>what I mean saying, So like just think about that.

1413
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:06.199
<v Speaker 3>How like sometimes even when somehow, like I could see

1414
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.039
<v Speaker 3>you and be like, oh.

1415
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.359
<v Speaker 5>Just she doesn't feel right, something's bothering her and just

1416
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.239
<v Speaker 5>know it somehow, you.

1417
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Know what I'm saying, And then like like oh I

1418
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:15.239
<v Speaker 3>feel batter blah blah blah, Like you know what I'm

1419
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.560
<v Speaker 3>saying like people can sometimes even sense that without even

1420
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 3>being like that close and knowing before you eat an

1421
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:24.159
<v Speaker 3>approach a person, just think about somebody who's really fucked up,

1422
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Like how that could affect you.

1423
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

1424
01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 3>No, I really do think like people do pick up

1425
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot that they don't realize that as intuition.

1426
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:37.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah absolutely. And I was just talking to

1427
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.600
<v Speaker 4>someone the other day because they said, I don't know why,

1428
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:46.600
<v Speaker 4>like I want to be their friend. They seem nice enough,

1429
01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:50.039
<v Speaker 4>but every time I'm around them, I feel tired and

1430
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:55.000
<v Speaker 4>depressed and like I just feel drained. And I was like,

1431
01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:00.840
<v Speaker 4>first off, that should be a red flag, because that's

1432
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.520
<v Speaker 4>something called discernment. They might look like a nice person,

1433
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 4>or act like a nice person, or even say things

1434
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:10.920
<v Speaker 4>that you like, but if you feel like you just

1435
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:13.239
<v Speaker 4>got hit by a truck every time year around them,

1436
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:15.600
<v Speaker 4>that's a problem, you know what I'm saying. So I

1437
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 4>always worry about that kind of stuff, opening myself up

1438
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:22.159
<v Speaker 4>to certain kind of situations or even people, Well, people.

1439
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Are gonna have demons themselves, and that's what you're feeling.

1440
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:27.640
<v Speaker 3>I have to say, I even like I've even like

1441
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I even had a friend in the oto that you

1442
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 3>used to fuck with the goags sometimes and then started

1443
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:39.640
<v Speaker 3>having experiences stopped and there was a female friend of

1444
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:43.560
<v Speaker 3>ours that was in the OTO, and uh like it

1445
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 3>was only like me and like maybe a few people

1446
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:47.720
<v Speaker 3>that I really kind of spoke to because I really didn't.

1447
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.359
<v Speaker 3>I just knew I didn'tthing. So there's very few people

1448
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 3>that I kind of like actually talked to them, especially

1449
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 3>in a magical you know, relationship. And like we all

1450
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.840
<v Speaker 3>noticed like she was like kind of like riding that

1451
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:01.600
<v Speaker 3>stuff pretty going pretty all with it, just like kind

1452
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.399
<v Speaker 3>of got into that and was just going through their

1453
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:06.680
<v Speaker 3>gods and like kind of wasn't going back to like

1454
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:09.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, anything else. Like it's not like I like

1455
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:11.279
<v Speaker 3>you just wanted to dabble, like you you're kind of

1456
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.720
<v Speaker 3>like just going that way and just like weird, shit

1457
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.960
<v Speaker 3>just was not going right. You even felt an uncomfortability

1458
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.439
<v Speaker 3>around there. And my friend friend even said to me,

1459
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:22.239
<v Speaker 3>he's like, bro, he's like when you play.

1460
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:25.960
<v Speaker 5>With shit enough start to smell like he's like.

1461
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:33.359
<v Speaker 3>He's like a real ship and he's like and people

1462
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 3>are even picking it up well or just the bad

1463
01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 3>energy and just isn't even really fucking worth there either,

1464
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, pulling away from her, you know, in

1465
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a societal sense.

1466
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. I mean I guess we could both agree

1467
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:49.560
<v Speaker 4>that no matter what the situation is, everybody is a

1468
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:52.800
<v Speaker 4>little shitty. But of course, you know what I'm saying.

1469
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:54.359
<v Speaker 4>But to the point where.

1470
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.920
<v Speaker 3>You live crazy, the crazy thing is real quick. And

1471
01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:59.640
<v Speaker 3>I'll even say it's that like she wasn't even doing

1472
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:00.960
<v Speaker 3>it in a thinking.

1473
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:02.960
<v Speaker 5>This is bad or even trying to hurt anybody.

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01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.199
<v Speaker 3>She thought she was just you know, contacting these aspects

1475
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.079
<v Speaker 3>of like the demonic mind and shit, and it's like, well,

1476
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:10.640
<v Speaker 3>you don't really need to like fuck.

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01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:11.800
<v Speaker 5>With that too much, like I think you're you know,

1478
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:14.039
<v Speaker 5>doing but whatever, right, So like it.

1479
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't even in bad intentions on anybody that she was

1480
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 3>doing these things and she was still fucking herself.

1481
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:19.479
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

1482
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:21.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1483
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.560
<v Speaker 4>That's why I just say I cover it on my podcast,

1484
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:27.880
<v Speaker 4>What I Ever do it? Myself? Hailed to the no

1485
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 4>because I'm superstitious about all that stuff, you know. But

1486
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 4>at some point, I think everyone has like that shadow

1487
01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 4>self that they have to deal with, they have like

1488
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:43.760
<v Speaker 4>that demon in their closet, whatever that might be. Some

1489
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 4>people are just a little bit more obvious than others.

1490
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 4>But you know what I mean, because like everybody said,

1491
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 4>how nice of a guy Ted Bundy was, and like, oh,

1492
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:57.760
<v Speaker 4>he'd never hurt anyone. Like he had that girlfriend forever

1493
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:00.479
<v Speaker 4>long and he was super sweet to her and her daughter.

1494
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:06.239
<v Speaker 5>Look at Gacy, right.

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01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:07.159
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying is.

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01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, he was connected with politicians. He was, you know,

1497
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.760
<v Speaker 3>loved in the town. He put on parades, you know,

1498
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:14.640
<v Speaker 3>he was he was in it.

1499
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.640
<v Speaker 5>He went to he got sentenced to ten years.

1500
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 3>This guy did eighteen months and had a miniature golf

1501
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:20.960
<v Speaker 3>thing put into the fucking prison that he was in.

1502
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Come on, go to.

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01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Hell that guy.

1504
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah three, I.

1505
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:31.199
<v Speaker 4>Hope he has thirty three demons just raping him on

1506
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:37.840
<v Speaker 4>a daily basis. Anyways, New York. Yes, if people want

1507
01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:43.520
<v Speaker 4>to find you, where can they look? Instagram? Where's your podcast?

1508
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Tell me about it?

1509
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:48.439
<v Speaker 3>Right Instagram? I got the NY Patriot nineteen seventy eight.

1510
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:52.000
<v Speaker 3>There is the Occult Rejects also on Instagram, but honestly,

1511
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.880
<v Speaker 3>we're really very vaguely use it just the post episodes. Uh,

1512
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.600
<v Speaker 3>you can catch me on like I said, Instagram and

1513
01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:00.880
<v Speaker 3>New York Patriot nineteen seventy eight. We do have Twitter.

1514
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:02.920
<v Speaker 3>The ocult rejects that I'm on a little bit more

1515
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.560
<v Speaker 3>than the ocult rejects on I'm actually on Twitter and

1516
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Instagram the most. If you want to find me. I

1517
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:11.239
<v Speaker 3>don't have a New York Patriot account on Twitter. I've

1518
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 3>already been banned so many times with that name prior,

1519
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:19.119
<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately, like the only reason I can even access

1520
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Twitter is because I got a new phone and I

1521
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 3>have a different like IP kind of thing now, so

1522
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:29.159
<v Speaker 3>may way, I can't even get back on. So yeah,

1523
01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 3>well from the prior one because the old phone that

1524
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I had was so I went from A thirteen to

1525
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:36.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen like that, No, no, I'm sorry, no, no, no,

1526
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:39.439
<v Speaker 3>and A and eight, oh my god, and eight to

1527
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 3>a thirteen. I went from my iPhone eight to a thirteen. Yeah, no,

1528
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:45.039
<v Speaker 3>I went from an A to at thirteen, So think

1529
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:46.920
<v Speaker 3>how well fucking old I I mean, that phone was

1530
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of old. So like, I've already been banned too

1531
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.039
<v Speaker 3>many times, and like I couldn't use that phone anymore.

1532
01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't use the fucking computer. So it's like I

1533
01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:56.239
<v Speaker 3>had to wait till I got it on my phone

1534
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 3>and then well, eventually I got a new computer and

1535
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:01.760
<v Speaker 3>then that was fun too, So all right, yeah, that

1536
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:03.760
<v Speaker 3>whole long joint out thing. Yeah, I'm on Twitter, the

1537
01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Occult Rejects, NY Patriot on Instagram, and then I have

1538
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the MII Patriots show that's on an all major podcast.

1539
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I do have Bitchoot and Rumble. I might phase out

1540
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:16.239
<v Speaker 3>of those. We also have The Occult Rejects that's on

1541
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Bitchoot and Rumble as well and all major podcasts, but

1542
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.159
<v Speaker 3>they're really the best spot, really, I would say, as

1543
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.079
<v Speaker 3>long as it's still up knock on wood. We do

1544
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:29.279
<v Speaker 3>have a YouTube account. It's almost it's broken, nine hundred

1545
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:31.720
<v Speaker 3>almost two one thousand members. We're hoping and hoping to

1546
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:35.159
<v Speaker 3>make a thousand. We have tour and more, which we'll

1547
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:37.359
<v Speaker 3>have my show, The Occult Rejects, and when Lucks, my

1548
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 3>co host on The Ocult Rejects, does his own show

1549
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:41.600
<v Speaker 3>that will go on there as well. So you have

1550
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:43.479
<v Speaker 3>like three different shows on there, and I put out

1551
01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:45.199
<v Speaker 3>at least two or three shows a week myself, so

1552
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.840
<v Speaker 3>you have a lot of shit on that one YouTube site,

1553
01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:48.720
<v Speaker 3>tour and more.

1554
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:55.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, can't keep a good man down, that's what. But yeah,

1555
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:58.000
<v Speaker 4>thank you so much New York for coming on my show.

1556
01:21:58.119 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm still your number one fan.

1557
01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you. I'll take that.

1558
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll take that, always will be. But yeah, no, I

1559
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.760
<v Speaker 4>think this was a great episode. Thank you so much.

1560
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 3>Sure, thank you. That was fun. Actually, oh yeah no,

1561
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:13.760
<v Speaker 3>it took it for me because I was like, you

1562
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:16.720
<v Speaker 3>know what, this is so funny. I was like, you

1563
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>know what, this works.

1564
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:19.760
<v Speaker 5>Out perfect because like I can use this for my

1565
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 5>show and I'm.

1566
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:25.520
<v Speaker 3>The guests because I actually thought this is interesting and

1567
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I would cover this myself, so I'm

1568
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>going to use this myself. So I was like, this

1569
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:30.960
<v Speaker 3>is great. I'm gonna have fun and I'm the guests

1570
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.079
<v Speaker 3>and this will be an episode for me. Oh okay,

1571
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I had a great time. I thought it was a

1572
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:36.199
<v Speaker 3>really good show.

1573
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, since you said that, let me just plug.

1574
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:40.600
<v Speaker 3>On my ownh yeah, go ahead, go for you.

1575
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Here I go. So I have the Cosmic Peach podcast.

1576
01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:49.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm Julia if you didn't catch that in the beginning,

1577
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:56.800
<v Speaker 4>and I cover everything from paranormal and all the nice

1578
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.439
<v Speaker 4>dark shit that you can always imagine and very original.

1579
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I will say, I think thank you.

1580
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I try to be I'm the thing.

1581
01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I have to say out of all of the podcasts

1582
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I follow, your don't. You're not covering anything I've seen

1583
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:12.319
<v Speaker 3>somebody else I won't. I'll be totally honest with you.

1584
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:15.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like tainted to me if somebody else covering

1585
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 4>if I can do better than that. So if you

1586
01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:29.239
<v Speaker 4>want to get your mind blown, stop by Cosmic Peach Podcast. Okay,

1587
01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:30.880
<v Speaker 4>so I just want to tell people where they can

1588
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:34.680
<v Speaker 4>go to get their minds blown, Cosmic Peach Podcast. But

1589
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 4>thank you New York, and thank you to all my listeners,

1590
01:23:39.039 --> 01:24:26.640
<v Speaker 4>and we will catch you on the next one.
