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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started, hour number two here
Speaker 2: on an NFL Draft day edition of Coffee and Company.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Sorry for the
Speaker 2: weird first hour, but you know, we made it work.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's just the fact that this is something
Speaker 2: I've been doing for a lot long, you know, longer
Speaker 2: than I realize. Sometimes that you know, technical difficulties, they happen,
Speaker 2: and I can't really tell you if there's ever been
Speaker 2: any moment where there's been any kind of technical hiccup,
Speaker 2: technical issue, you know, just something that you know isn't
Speaker 2: working the right way. It's never anybody's fault, and nobody
Speaker 2: ever like wants it to happen or is intending on
Speaker 2: making you know, your nobody's trying to sabotage the show.
Speaker 2: So I got good advice many years ago from somebody
Speaker 2: who said, look, I mean, the best way to get
Speaker 2: through it is to just you know, not necessarily just
Speaker 2: be positive. But I'll like realize, you know, getting upset
Speaker 2: and yelling and you know, wondering who who could who,
Speaker 2: how could this happen? Whose fault is this?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 2: How could I you know? And a lot of people
Speaker 2: do act like that, so you know, I learned long ago,
Speaker 2: but that won't help anything. So we made it work in
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Speaker 2: Louisville dot com. I mentioned earlier that I'm just a
Speaker 2: nerd for the for drafts in general, but I think
Speaker 2: more than anything is that whenever I was a kid,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm one of many kids across
Speaker 2: the world. In fact, probably many of you listening were
Speaker 2: the same way. When you're really young, Like the first
Speaker 2: thing that you realize, Okay, that's a job. That's what
Speaker 2: I want to do. I mean, you probably don't even
Speaker 2: see it as a job when you're a young but
Speaker 2: like you want to play in the NBA, you want
Speaker 2: to play in the NFL, you want to play Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball, and obviously you know when you get hired,
Speaker 2: you get drafted. I mean, that's really what it comes
Speaker 2: down to, right. I guess technically your contract that's when
Speaker 2: you become an employee, but really I mean tonight whenever.
Speaker 2: However many is it thirty two picks in the first round, Austin?
Speaker 2: I think yes, right, so thirty two people are getting
Speaker 2: getting hired tonight essentially. So you know, I wanted to
Speaker 2: be in the NBA, but you know, I think I
Speaker 2: was probably about like nine, maybe even younger than that,
Speaker 2: when I realized, okay, I could still love basketball and
Speaker 2: make it a big part of my life, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not going to go to the NBA. But let
Speaker 2: me tell you an embarrassing, an embarrassing story that I
Speaker 2: know I've said this before on the air, but I
Speaker 2: think it's been a long time, and I would imagine
Speaker 2: that you don't know this story, Austin, but it's something
Speaker 2: that's still I get, like, you know, I get embarrassed
Speaker 2: thinking about it because have you ever have you ever
Speaker 2: said something as a joke or like, you know, whether
Speaker 2: it be you say it out loud or you text
Speaker 2: somebody and you fully are joking. You can't imagine a
Speaker 2: scenario where they don't know that you're joking and then
Speaker 2: you realize that they thought you were serious. I mean,
Speaker 2: you probably don't have an instance of that off the
Speaker 2: top of your head. Like imagine, you know, when you're
Speaker 2: trying to be sarcastic and like when you like, you know,
Speaker 2: self deprecating like that. That's why oftentimes I can't help
Speaker 2: but just say, I hope you guys can sense the
Speaker 2: level of sarcasm. I do that because I guess it's
Speaker 2: an insecurity that like maybe somebody would think I was
Speaker 2: being serious. I probably don't need to do that, but
Speaker 2: maybe this thing happening when I was in high school
Speaker 2: is the reason why I have that insecurity and why
Speaker 2: I can't help myself it but remind people like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm not being serious. But by doing that,
Speaker 2: it really eliminates any any remote possibility of it being
Speaker 2: even a little bit funny. But anyways, we had basketball
Speaker 2: programs for our high school team, and they took our pictures.
Speaker 2: We get the team picture. Your parents could sponsor a
Speaker 2: page and like put a message in there. If you
Speaker 2: were a senior, you got like a bio page. And
Speaker 2: really what we did is we sold advertisements and we
Speaker 2: gave away the programs at games, and you know that's
Speaker 2: how we made money for the like the Booster Club.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not. I'm sure we were not alone.
Speaker 2: I'm sure others did the same thing. But if you
Speaker 2: ever if you ever looked at like the media guide
Speaker 2: for like U of L or UK or anybody where
Speaker 2: they say, you know, favorite food, you know, who would
Speaker 2: you most like to meet? Best athlete ever face?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So in our basketball senior program, one of the questions
Speaker 2: was who would you most like to meet? And I
Speaker 2: thought I was making an obvious joke, and I wrote
Speaker 2: and they put it in the program David Stern on
Speaker 2: draft night, and it blew me away to find out
Speaker 2: that like it became something like my friends my peers
Speaker 2: would talk about because they thought I was being serious.
Speaker 2: They thought I was under the impression that like I
Speaker 2: was going to meet like I was going to get drafted,
Speaker 2: thinking like but I remember thinking, like how could they
Speaker 2: think that? I? I mean, I was a five to
Speaker 2: seven white kid from Bullet County, Like I was well
Speaker 2: aware long before that that I was not going to
Speaker 2: be in the national basketball Yeah, but like it crushed
Speaker 2: me to know that, Like people behind my back were like, oh,
Speaker 2: are we gonna have to tell him or We're gonna
Speaker 2: have to let him know that, like you know, because
Speaker 2: you know, you know, like wou would I mean, first
Speaker 2: of all, who would, like who would think I was serious?
Speaker 2: But also like I felt, I mean, I felt like
Speaker 2: an idiot, but also was like wait a second, like
Speaker 2: because because this is where this is where my mind
Speaker 2: just played tricks on me. Because then I started to think, like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, now that I'm telling them that I
Speaker 2: wasn't being serious, did they actually believe me? Or they like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Make sure, yeah sure, yeah sure big guy. So yeah,
Speaker 4: dream big dreamer over here.
Speaker 2: But but but that speaks to just how much like
Speaker 2: I've you know, it's corny as it sounds. If you
Speaker 2: get drafted tonight or anytime like that's I would imagine
Speaker 2: even if you go on to have a phenomenal career
Speaker 2: that has milestones, big moments, winning championships, I don't know,
Speaker 2: winning MVPs, Like there's way more as far as accomplishments
Speaker 2: that they would rank higher than just being selected. Because
Speaker 2: once you get selected, and you know, you get the job.
Speaker 2: You got to go perform. But I just feel like
Speaker 2: all of the the countless hours put into, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to get there, the culmination of it is hearing
Speaker 2: your name called, I think, and you know, even if
Speaker 2: you're somebody that ends up falling late. Like I remember
Speaker 2: both Teddy, I don't remember quite as much you might
Speaker 2: because you're a Vikings fan. I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: when Teddy was drafted, you know, he was, you know,
Speaker 2: he was professional, but like he was almost I think,
Speaker 2: kind of kind of stunned that he fell that far. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he did, but but Teddy was also cool
Speaker 2: hand luke, Like he didn't have a whole lot of
Speaker 2: you know, he was he was a cool customer, didn't
Speaker 2: show a whole lot of you know. I mean, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say he would. I don't want to say that
Speaker 2: he didn't have any emotion, but like he didn't really
Speaker 2: go high or low as far as that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: With Lamar, I think it was special because I could
Speaker 2: tell as he hugged his mom he was not expecting
Speaker 2: to be taken that late. He was clearly pissed. Right
Speaker 2: he told the Ravens they're going to get a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl out of him, and he was super motivated and
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, took it as a challenge to
Speaker 2: like prove all these teams wrong that passed on him.
Speaker 2: But I also could sense a level of like, this
Speaker 2: is our moment, you know what I mean, Like you know,
Speaker 2: he felt like it actually had happened for I mean,
Speaker 2: and it did happen for him. So anyways, it's NFL
Speaker 2: Draft night and I look forward to it. What do
Speaker 2: you think about it starting at eight o'clock? Like, do
Speaker 2: you have any complaints? Do you? I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: I think eight o'clock is a pretty reasonable time, although
Speaker 2: a lot of folks are saying it should start at seven.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's second and third round will get started at seven,
Speaker 2: which I don't know. I feel like it with it
Speaker 2: being like a main event thing for sports, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you gotta keep in mind you started at
Speaker 2: seven o'clock. It's four pm on the West coast, and
Speaker 2: that's just not ideal.
Speaker 4: And that's where it's it's in. It's in Wisconsin this year, Right's.
Speaker 2: Right, It's so weird. It's in Green Bay.
Speaker 4: It's in Green Bay, which is weird. I actually saw
Speaker 4: some people posting up online where because I mean right
Speaker 4: outside of the stadium.
Speaker 3: I mean they're not.
Speaker 4: Doing it at Lamba neighborhoods. I don't think it's just neighborhoods.
Speaker 4: So you can literally I've seen airbnbs at like ten
Speaker 4: thousand dollars for a night for Draft night, where people
Speaker 4: have posted that online for in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Like
Speaker 4: you're gonna think, like, I don't know, there is there
Speaker 4: any night life there, anything that you could do like
Speaker 4: big wigs and uh, you know, just rubbing shoulders with
Speaker 4: each other, gms and owner.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like where, like where are you like
Speaker 2: hanging out? I mean, I'm sure Green Bay has a
Speaker 2: decent scene because you know, on Sundays in the fall
Speaker 2: they have a lot. I mean they have an insane
Speaker 2: amount of people who show up, more people there for
Speaker 2: a game than you know that actually live there and
Speaker 2: call it home. And I actually like that the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft is moving around. I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 2: feel like for a long time it was like always
Speaker 2: in the same two spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those Radio City Music Hall. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I remember I went to the draft in Nashville.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't actually go and attend it, like
Speaker 2: you know, in per I mean it was outside, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was right, but I was just
Speaker 2: in the streets of it. And I think that was
Speaker 2: one of the first years where they did it in
Speaker 2: that kind of setting to where like it was outdoors.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, it was right on Broadway, and
Speaker 2: it was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a little overwhelming because I hate
Speaker 2: huge crowds and that was my biggest in fact, that
Speaker 2: was the and I never really thought about it, but
Speaker 2: somebody actually the picture popped up on my Facebook not
Speaker 2: that long ago, just as like, you know, what do
Speaker 2: they call it memories or whatever? Right, And I was
Speaker 2: showing it to somebody like can you believe what that
Speaker 2: looked like? And it did look insane, but because there's
Speaker 2: so many humongous buildings, I mean, it probably wasn't near
Speaker 2: the amount of people that I thought it was, but
Speaker 2: everybody was just crammed together, because you know, you're talking
Speaker 2: about downtown, downtown of a big city. Everybody just trying
Speaker 2: to fit in, not just in the streets but just
Speaker 2: in between the buildings.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I remember seeing those photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that they're doing a body places but
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Like again, green Bay's Green Bay is the
Speaker 2: most rare pro sports market location. And I don't even
Speaker 2: think there's a close second because it's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's again no joke. I haven't been, but I have
Speaker 2: a one of my my uncles is a big time
Speaker 2: pack or fan. He's from Wisconsin. He's been too many
Speaker 2: games and he took some of my family before me.
Speaker 2: It's it's quite literally in a neighborhood, right, It's nothing
Speaker 2: like anything you'd see. I mean, there are high schools
Speaker 2: that have a that have like a surrounding of their stadium.
Speaker 2: That is, it looks a little bit more like you know,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say legit because it's cool, but I just
Speaker 2: don't know if it's it's like if it's cool for
Speaker 2: the draft. Have you seen cam Ward talking about it?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't.
Speaker 2: He's been pretty outspoken, and I don't know a lot
Speaker 2: about cam Ward other than just his story as far
Speaker 2: as being a guy who started it incarnate word, ended
Speaker 2: up at Washington State, and then of course you know,
Speaker 2: goes to Miami and now he's gonna be the number
Speaker 2: one pick. But uh, it's just not something you typically see.
Speaker 2: He was dogging the city of Green Bay, saying, oh,
Speaker 2: really to get out of Green Bay. He can't wait,
Speaker 2: he can't wait to actually get drafted and then leave,
Speaker 2: and he hopes he never has to come back other
Speaker 2: than to play the Packers. Like, I don't know, just
Speaker 2: kind of found it a little I kind of found
Speaker 2: it a little refreshing because he wasn't like being a
Speaker 2: jerk about it, but he was just saying what he
Speaker 2: really thought. And I would imagine that most people agree
Speaker 2: and credit to him for you know, being braven to
Speaker 2: actually you know, to actually say it. So yeah, the
Speaker 2: draft was also in Detroit. I think it was either
Speaker 2: last year or the year before, and they actually broke
Speaker 2: the record. So yeah, I love the idea of having it,
Speaker 2: and didn't Cleveland host it not long ago.
Speaker 3: Yes, it'd just kind of.
Speaker 2: Random too, but it's a good city to have it,
Speaker 2: just because they love football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess to answer question, I maybe I'm just
Speaker 4: losing track of time, but like maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just always thought it started at eight and eight o'clock.
Speaker 4: I don't know why people would be complaining about that.
Speaker 4: That's just like prime time anyways on the East Coast.
Speaker 4: But I've always saw it started around.
Speaker 2: Well, it'll it'll, it'll last. I mean, there's there's certainly
Speaker 2: the same amount of time between every pick. But if
Speaker 2: the productions start today, I'm curious when the actual first
Speaker 2: pick is and I'm curious like when it actually the
Speaker 2: first round will come to an end. But what I
Speaker 2: do love about the NFL Draft is that the way
Speaker 2: they mean there's seven rounds, and because it's split up
Speaker 2: the way that it is, like you can take in
Speaker 2: each day and it all be great, right like day one,
Speaker 2: clearly it's it's the first round. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: the intrigue in recent years has been let's see who
Speaker 2: is getting left in the green room? Right, and it
Speaker 2: happens every year. I can't I mean, I could easily
Speaker 2: be wrong about this, because you know I'm wrong about things,
Speaker 2: but I feel like, for as long as I can remember,
Speaker 2: there's always been someone that ends up there in attendance
Speaker 2: in the green room that does not get picked. Now,
Speaker 2: sometimes if it's a player that you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: if it's somebody that is highly highly regarded, especially a quarterback,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get way more of that camera time that
Speaker 2: it's just embarrassing, right, but also you know there's other
Speaker 2: players that don't get as much attention. But also you
Speaker 2: know they end up being oh yeah, that guy was there,
Speaker 2: he didn't get picked, ditty. And then of course, you know,
Speaker 2: some guys don't come back for Day two because they're embarrassed,
Speaker 2: and then some guys do. So Day one is it's
Speaker 2: its own thing, obviously, because you know it's your chance
Speaker 2: to see which player your franchise is going to invest in.
Speaker 2: And no matter who you are, I mean, if your
Speaker 2: first round pick, I guess, you know, depending upon the position,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big investment. Like if you're taking
Speaker 2: in the first round, you know, I guess every player
Speaker 2: you take, regardless of the round, you know, you you
Speaker 2: hope it works out well. But if you think highly
Speaker 2: enough of somebody to take them with your first pick,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's pretty telling. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of you know, expectation there. I mean, like tonight, if
Speaker 2: you're a team that knows, you know, if you know
Speaker 2: your team is going after a tackle or you know,
Speaker 2: maybe just you know, maybe not one of the skill
Speaker 2: position spots, like you know, that's important and it won't
Speaker 2: get as much attention if it's not one of those
Speaker 2: skill position spots, but like you would hope that it's
Speaker 2: your team that you know, you would hope that they
Speaker 2: are able to give you a piece that can help you. Look,
Speaker 2: you know, they'll let you look forward to the next
Speaker 2: few years and say, Okay, this guy is going to
Speaker 2: help us in some way, whether it's somebody that's throwing touchdowns,
Speaker 2: catching touchdowns, or maybe somebody just protecting our quarterback. Now
Speaker 2: in the day two and Day three, I mean Day
Speaker 2: two is second and third round is always fun because
Speaker 2: there's more picks. You still get great value in the
Speaker 2: second and third round, and then by the time you
Speaker 2: get to Saturday, I mean, you really never know what
Speaker 2: to expect. But there have been the rare, rare situations
Speaker 2: where people have expected to potentially hear their name called
Speaker 2: in the first round and then you get to Saturday
Speaker 2: and like, you know, they still haven't been taken. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's rare, but it has happened. Who comes to mind
Speaker 2: for you is somebody that just like they just kept
Speaker 2: showing them in the green room and kept showing them
Speaker 2: not being taken.
Speaker 3: I mean, probably maybe.
Speaker 2: It's because it's gotta be Will Levis right, Like maybe it's.
Speaker 4: Because of will Levis because like his girlfriend's smoking haunt,
Speaker 4: she's easy to show on television. But also Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: too like that. I think that was like the first
Speaker 4: I forgot about that. I think that was like the
Speaker 4: first time that really was like, all right, you're watching
Speaker 4: a guy progressively get angry or just like as teams
Speaker 4: are passing on them, So that Will Levis.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if.
Speaker 4: Malik Willis was he at the draft a few years
Speaker 4: ago because he was shooting up as possibly the first
Speaker 4: quarterback taken. I can't remember if they showed him throughout
Speaker 4: the green room or not.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him being somebody that they just kept
Speaker 2: showing because what I'm thinking of is being shown on
Speaker 2: camera because you know, this is a television event. You know,
Speaker 2: they don't they put it on TV because they know
Speaker 2: people are gonna watch it, not just because they want
Speaker 2: you could find out who your team's picking, know everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about those players without watching it
Speaker 2: on TV. But it's a production. And me again, there's
Speaker 2: a reason they invite certain guys there because it's part
Speaker 2: of the whole process. It's not necessary as far as
Speaker 2: like like you know, again, when there was a draft
Speaker 2: when COVID happened, when Roger Goodell did it in his basement.
Speaker 2: I mean like that was kind of proof that, like
Speaker 2: you really don't need to have I mean again, I
Speaker 2: know why they do it. I love that they do it,
Speaker 2: but you know you have to you have to know
Speaker 2: going in if you're a fringe pick, you're kind of
Speaker 2: a buzz name. But there's a lot of talk that
Speaker 2: like maybe you get drafted in the top five, maybe
Speaker 2: you slipped around two, and that's not that unheard of
Speaker 2: when it comes to the NFL draft, especially with all
Speaker 2: the just so many talking heads talking about what they're hearing,
Speaker 2: all the reports, rumors and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So if I was let me ask you this, if
Speaker 2: you were, if you were in the position of where
Speaker 2: you got the invite, and it was quite literally a
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty like probability that you hear your name called,
Speaker 2: and you knew that because you were Austin Montgomery, a
Speaker 2: handsome quarterback that's about to change a franchise. You knew
Speaker 2: they were going to have the camera on you because
Speaker 2: you got your lovely fiance next to you. You guys
Speaker 2: are looking like a million bucks. Would you would it
Speaker 2: be worth potentially being that guy to be there or
Speaker 2: would you rather watch it home with.
Speaker 3: Friends and family.
Speaker 4: That's where and that's where my insecurity would kick in,
Speaker 4: and I probably wouldn't make the decision until like the
Speaker 4: last second, just because I'm an attention attention grabber.
Speaker 3: I would still go not you, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish you, I wish you guys yourself up more.
Speaker 4: Never never never meet I Yeah, I would told, I
Speaker 4: was told I would, told I would do it. It would
Speaker 4: be worth it to me, especially if I just keep
Speaker 4: getting shown. And you know, even if I'm irrelevant in
Speaker 4: ten years, they'll probably be showing that at that year's dress,
Speaker 4: so I could look back and say, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I would probably just just
Speaker 2: again because like you can being drafted, if you're there
Speaker 2: or not, like it doesn't change anything as far as
Speaker 2: like your future, but it's it's the moment. And if
Speaker 2: I think if I had, if they I feel like,
Speaker 2: if you get the invite, there's a good chance that
Speaker 2: they think you're going to be taken, or maybe they
Speaker 2: know it's going to be like border line, because again
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this the NFL works with ESPN to
Speaker 2: this out. He gets invited, meaning ESPN wants. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: ESPN pays a lot of money to be able to
Speaker 2: put this on television, to make money and monetize the production.
Speaker 2: So once I realized that, then that's confirmation. Again, it's
Speaker 2: not surprised, but like they put people there who won
Speaker 2: they know we're gonna get picked, but also because they
Speaker 2: think that, you know, like if there's somebody that is
Speaker 2: because they don't invite thirty two people, right, but and
Speaker 2: you can go if you want or like that's another thing,
Speaker 2: being drafted in the audience and walking down Like I
Speaker 2: used to think, like, man, that's kind of weird. But
Speaker 2: then again, like no, if you know you're being picked
Speaker 2: at some point and you want to have the moment
Speaker 2: where you walk across the stage and shake the commissioner's hand,
Speaker 2: I totally get it. Like again, people can make fun
Speaker 2: of you, I wouldn't give a damn. I mean maybe
Speaker 2: if I was twenty one twenty two, I would be
Speaker 2: not I guess comfortable enough my own skin to where
Speaker 2: I would feel like, yeah, I don't want to be
Speaker 2: that guy that walks down on Saturday afternoon. Is a
Speaker 2: six round pick. But if if it's because of some
Speaker 2: last people get off on social media about me, I'll
Speaker 2: deal with that if it means I can actually have that,
Speaker 2: you know, have the picture right, put that, put the
Speaker 2: cap on, shake the hand of the commissioner, like I
Speaker 2: hug your mom before you walk up there. Like that stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's stuff you'll never forget. So I think
Speaker 2: I would risk it. But again, you know, obviously you've
Speaker 2: got you got it, you got it. There's a potential
Speaker 2: chance that you end up being that guy. Just keep
Speaker 2: showing and sometimes you won't get any reaction. I feel like,
Speaker 2: to be honest, Johnny Manziel, he went later than I think. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what was he supposed to go because
Speaker 2: he was there. He got drafted in the first round
Speaker 2: by the Browns. But that was like mid round, wasn't
Speaker 2: It wasn't that early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he was the first pick, was he?
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: No, No, Baker was, and Baker wasn't there. Did you
Speaker 2: remember that?
Speaker 3: Yes? I do, he was. He was Amber What he
Speaker 3: did I don't. I don't so Baker and I don't.
Speaker 2: I always feel like I need to like put a
Speaker 2: disclaimer on it because I feel like Louisville fans and
Speaker 2: the Baker was a pretty easy guy to dislike in
Speaker 2: college and whatnot, And really, I guess he's been kind
Speaker 2: of easy to dislike overall, just because you know, he's
Speaker 2: a little arrogant. You know, he did the planning the
Speaker 2: flag at Ohio State. He got himself into some trouble
Speaker 2: running from the cops when he was in college. But
Speaker 2: and also he took a heisman that a lot of
Speaker 2: people felt like was Lamar's. And honestly, I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody's ever gonna win the Hosman twice. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think Lamar would have wanted it to be
Speaker 2: had a substantially better season than he did that year.
Speaker 2: So he's kind of been long story short. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of Louisville fans just are more anti Baker
Speaker 2: than you know, the other way around. But the more
Speaker 2: I consider like everything about him, I kind of like
Speaker 2: him one just because of his story. But he some
Speaker 2: would say this was corny, and I get it, but
Speaker 2: he idolized Brett Farv growing up, like he wanted to
Speaker 2: be Brett Farv. So if you remember, he recreated the
Speaker 2: photo that Brett Farv had with his family when he
Speaker 2: got drafted in whatever round it was. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: in his bedroom with the acid washed gene Southern miss
Speaker 2: ball cap I think it was or something like that,
Speaker 2: and Baker he basically recreated that room from like whatever
Speaker 2: year it was that Barv was drafted many many years ago,
Speaker 2: and like the deck or in the room, the clothes,
Speaker 2: like they went back in time and just recreated that
Speaker 2: exact moment. And I thought that, you know, again, I
Speaker 2: think he got made fun of more than anything, but
Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cool, especially because he
Speaker 2: was a number one pick and he wasn't there, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, that's that's to me, I
Speaker 2: think that's I think.
Speaker 3: That's pretty That's a fantastic photo. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think with Johnny Man's O. The reason I was
Speaker 2: bringing him up is because he was the first example
Speaker 2: for me, at least it comes to mind that he
Speaker 2: didn't show any emotion. He just sat there. But yet
Speaker 2: he didn't get picked, and if any quarterback got picked
Speaker 2: ahead of him, they would show him. And I'm thinking, like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, I get why they're show Him's Johnny Football
Speaker 2: like he's he was as polarizing as anybody in college
Speaker 2: football in a long long time. But like, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's like they're just hoping he does something and
Speaker 2: he was just sitting there. Also, what year was that.
Speaker 2: It's like twenty thirteen, maybe when he got drafted something
Speaker 2: like that, because the internet was a different place then
Speaker 2: than it is now. And I remember somebody photoshopped poor
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe they were poor at photo shopping or
Speaker 2: just didn't have the ability to you know, use AI
Speaker 2: and create images with with AI to where but I
Speaker 2: remember it was a very obviously fake cup of water
Speaker 2: that somebody turned yellow and made it look like beer,
Speaker 2: and somebody shared Baker Mayfield's not he's getting passed in
Speaker 2: the draft and he's just drinking beer to get through it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, people if they're idiots that believe that,
Speaker 2: Like it was so so obviously a doctored image, but
Speaker 2: yet at that time, you know, people weren't as aware
Speaker 2: that somebody could you know, easily recreate something that's not
Speaker 2: real and make it look real and fool a lot
Speaker 2: of people. But yeah, I don't I don't know who could.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, I just I can't think of
Speaker 2: who would be the guy tonight that like everybody expects
Speaker 2: to get taken that doesn't. That's been talked about. Now
Speaker 2: they'll be there'll be people there. I'm sure maybe one
Speaker 2: or two players that are in attendance that are expected
Speaker 2: to maybe go mid to lay and they don't go.
Speaker 2: That that'll happen. But as far as the big names,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to see like something
Speaker 2: we saw with well Will Levis and obviously he's not
Speaker 2: been a great quarterback since he got to the NFL,
Speaker 2: but I mean that was no. I I don't know
Speaker 2: if I enjoyed that because I'm a Louisville fan and
Speaker 2: he's a pretty easy guy to dislike because you know,
Speaker 2: he had his way with us. But also he was
Speaker 2: just real cocky. He put mayonnaise on bananas and that's weird,
Speaker 2: Like that's not cool. But I mean that was crazy.
Speaker 2: The fact that he that he didn't get taken until
Speaker 2: the next day, when some people thought he was going
Speaker 2: to be the number one pick. Yeah, that like there
Speaker 2: was buzz that he could go number one, and obviously
Speaker 2: that did not happen. So all right, quick break, we'll
Speaker 2: come back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley not going to be taken tonight, obviously, but
Speaker 2: he's starting to get some buzz to be one of
Speaker 2: the more underrated quarterbacks in this draft. So we'll get
Speaker 2: to that and a lot more, taking you until six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. This is not
Speaker 2: something that I intended to make part of the show
Speaker 2: today because it's it's I mean, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 2: if many people remember this name once I say it.
Speaker 2: But there's really not a whole lot to add to it.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to test the one and only Austin Montgomery,
Speaker 2: the Trivel Chief, who he and I are a lot
Speaker 2: alike in many ways, but mostly because we love Louisville basketball,
Speaker 2: and yeah, we obsessed over it. We're lunatics for it.
Speaker 2: When I say the name Jordan Fair, do you know
Speaker 2: who that is?
Speaker 3: Jordan Fair? Was he an assistant coach?
Speaker 2: Correct He was an assistant coach briefly at Louisville and
Speaker 2: he was believed to be. I mean, we really never
Speaker 2: knew specifically who was who was behind the scenes basically,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean Jordan Fair made in il cool
Speaker 2: before it was cool, if that makes sense, Like he
Speaker 2: you had, you had Jordan Fair, who a lot of
Speaker 2: people thought was Coach Mike, who of course was referenced
Speaker 2: by you know, I don't remember who it was, but
Speaker 2: one of the play you know, if you go back
Speaker 2: and look at all those documents that that that showed
Speaker 2: the investigation, the findings as far as investigating. Actually, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Coach Mike was the Katina pal stuff. Excuse me. And
Speaker 2: I don't say this to like make fun of Louisville,
Speaker 2: because why would I do that. I'm just being honest
Speaker 2: with you. I mean I had a I guess I
Speaker 2: could say I was fortunate, but you know, I was
Speaker 2: on the air every day for three hours during two
Speaker 2: like crazy scandals, one being the Katina pal stuff and
Speaker 2: the other being the Brian Bowen situation, which a lot
Speaker 2: of people understandably so on the outside, I mean they
Speaker 2: would they would they would confuse those two and not
Speaker 2: realize like that, you know, those were two completely separate
Speaker 2: things that had nothing to do yep with with one another, right,
Speaker 2: So you know, anyways, Jordan Fair was Jordan Fair was was,
Speaker 2: you know, an assistant coach, And I mean, it always
Speaker 2: looked really shady to me that Rick Patino hired him,
Speaker 2: given his background. He was a young and up and
Speaker 2: coming guy as far as like an AAU dude, and
Speaker 2: he you know, he clearly, you know, had really established
Speaker 2: himself on the circuit. But he was really young, and
Speaker 2: Rick doesn't usually hire guys like that. So it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that always made me think, like, Rick's
Speaker 2: not dumb. He wouldn't hire Jordan Fair unless he felt
Speaker 2: like Jordan Fair could bring something to the table and
Speaker 2: help him get players. Now does that mean he was
Speaker 2: helping get them money so they would come to Louisville.
Speaker 2: We'll probably never know, but anyways, you know, he was
Speaker 2: he was let go himy Kenny Johnson, I think around
Speaker 2: the same time. I don't remember if there was a
Speaker 2: show cause, but I would have probably never ever thought
Speaker 2: about Jordan Fair ever again until today because he is
Speaker 2: now back in the game. So Arkansas State hired a
Speaker 2: new coach, Ryan Panoni, and he has hired Jordan Fair
Speaker 2: as an assistant to his staff. So yeah, So Travis
Speaker 2: Brandam reported the news and then says that Fair is
Speaker 2: a high level recruiter that has worked as a personal
Speaker 2: player development coach and to NBA players and prepared players
Speaker 2: for the NBA Draft. So it is wild to think
Speaker 2: that like in this world Jordan Fair would be viewed
Speaker 2: as like this star who has these relationship with players,
Speaker 2: like he probably would be. You know, he's a coach,
Speaker 2: so clearly he's doing that. But like what used to
Speaker 2: be viewed as something that you know, you're shady. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't hire that guy, he's got baggage, he'll get
Speaker 2: you in trouble. Now you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: And now those guys are like you need them, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like what Will Wade used to be,
Speaker 2: you know, looked at as the bad boy. For now
Speaker 2: you know he'll that'll help him. Now he's also a
Speaker 2: really good coach. But like, let's put it this way.
Speaker 2: Will Wade obviously, you know, was a better coach than
Speaker 2: McNee State deserved. But he was in the position to
Speaker 2: take that job because he was out of work looking
Speaker 2: for a gig because of what played out at lsu
Speaker 2: I mean, I think what what Will Wade was doing
Speaker 2: that he got in trouble for that, he got caught
Speaker 2: that he was that he was heard talking about on
Speaker 2: that wire. I mean whatever you want to call that
Speaker 2: cheating or you know whatever, I mean that helped. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he used that to get players to come to
Speaker 2: McNee state, you know what I mean, Like he'll hustle,
Speaker 2: he'll find money, and he'll make it work the ultimate
Speaker 2: you know, players coach as they say.
Speaker 3: So you know.
Speaker 2: Anyways, Jordan Fair back in the game, and it made
Speaker 2: me think, like there's if you if you're somebody, if
Speaker 2: you're a sick oh like us, meaning you follow this stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, probably more than you should. I shouldn't say
Speaker 2: that because obviously if you're like a day one, day
Speaker 2: to day listener and you are like your hobby your
Speaker 2: interest is keeping up with anything and everything that is
Speaker 2: going on with U of L or UK, then you
Speaker 2: know you're our people. That's who we that's a that's
Speaker 2: our demo. Right, So you know, don't take it the
Speaker 2: wrong way. I'm one of you. But you know there's
Speaker 2: certain names that like only you would only you would
Speaker 2: remember if you're if you're kind of you know someone
Speaker 2: that lets this kind of consume you the way it
Speaker 2: does a lot of us. And I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: another name, because it would be nice to just like
Speaker 2: think of eight ten names and just ask people and see, okay,
Speaker 2: do you remember this? And if you don't, like again
Speaker 2: once once I started talking about Jordan Fair Austin, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you were well aware of, like you know the story,
Speaker 2: but like you didn't name. Yeah, how about this name?
Speaker 3: This one?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna this one. I'm going to guess that you
Speaker 2: may not know it. I tried to think of the person,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't think of the name, and I had
Speaker 2: to google it to get the name. What about Noah Peterson?
Speaker 3: No, not off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: And this one it took place shortly after the pandemic,
Speaker 2: so it's kind of a blur. This one might not
Speaker 2: even be one that many people remember, or maybe you do.
Speaker 2: How about whenever we found out that there was a
Speaker 2: guy named Noah Peterson who'd been hired by the UFL
Speaker 2: Athletic Department and we had awful, awful stadium issues like
Speaker 2: at the football ball.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes you remember this? Yes?
Speaker 2: So I mean it was a nightmare they tried to
Speaker 2: open up the stadium, and they did open up the
Speaker 2: stadium for the first game. There were no bathrooms that
Speaker 2: were working. Nobody could use their cards to purchase anything.
Speaker 2: They went cashless, which became a huge issue, which meant
Speaker 2: every purchase in the entire stadium was relying upon connection.
Speaker 2: And it was a mess. And to be fair, give
Speaker 2: Vince Tyree credit, like he didn't run from it. He
Speaker 2: had a press conference specifically to address that and to
Speaker 2: discuss things that they're doing to try to fix it
Speaker 2: and to apologize. I mean, they got out in front
Speaker 2: of it. But they had to because it was a
Speaker 2: next level It was a next level disaster and it
Speaker 2: you know, there were countless factors that led to why
Speaker 2: it was that bad. Most importantly, they couldn't get people
Speaker 2: to work, Like they didn't have the I mean, they
Speaker 2: couldn't hire enough people, so they relied on a staffing company,
Speaker 2: and that staffing company even had a tough time getting
Speaker 2: people to like come and work the games as far
Speaker 2: as concessions, facilities, maintenance, that kind of stuff, And I
Speaker 2: mean it was bad. Well, you know bands who have
Speaker 2: been fans for you know, twenty thirty years that have
Speaker 2: probably had some issues before. They were so appalled that
Speaker 2: it was as bad as it was, they wanted to
Speaker 2: call somebody. Right, even if you know nothing's going to change,
Speaker 2: there are some folks out there that, man, if I
Speaker 2: can just fire off a very passive, aggressive professional email
Speaker 2: to somebody to let them know my thoughts on their service,
Speaker 2: I'll feel better, you know what I mean. Like people
Speaker 2: are like that. So if you go to the Google
Speaker 2: and you google, you know, University of Louisville Athletics Fan Experience,
Speaker 2: Fan Engagement, whatever the title was, you would go to
Speaker 2: see the name Noah Peterson. Well then you would find
Speaker 2: Noah Peterson on social media, and everybody realized this guy
Speaker 2: was like the ultimate UK fanboy, like he was a
Speaker 2: KSR groupie, And the majority of his social media posts
Speaker 2: were not just like El's down. We're talking like saying
Speaker 2: awful things about Lamar Jackson. I mean just being the apps,
Speaker 2: Like when you think of the worst human being as
Speaker 2: far as how they behave on social media, saying awful things.
Speaker 2: That was this guy's Twitter account. I think he had
Speaker 2: like a picture of Matt Jones as his profile picture
Speaker 2: and again he had I say again, like we just
Speaker 2: talked about this the other day. I remember thinking, even
Speaker 2: at the time, there's no scenario that the issues at
Speaker 2: u of L for the football game had anything to
Speaker 2: do with this guy. But what are the chances that
Speaker 2: when you look up fan Experienced, stadium Experience, whatever his
Speaker 2: title was, it would be this UK honk that like
Speaker 2: his personality is being a dirt bag to Louisville fans,
Speaker 2: Like that's what he does. He was fresh out of college,
Speaker 2: and uh, I mean again, I never believed that he
Speaker 2: had anything to do with it, but what a bad
Speaker 2: like what bad luck was that? And also just terrible,
Speaker 2: like the optics of it, Like you couldn't script it
Speaker 2: to be worst. U L football has the ultimate meltdown
Speaker 2: as far as just the stadium experience, and fans say
Speaker 2: they're never going to go back to another game this
Speaker 2: year until they get it figured out and they know
Speaker 2: that it's an issue and they they're trying their best,
Speaker 2: and yet a lot of people are like, well that's
Speaker 2: what you get because you're hiring UK fans to run
Speaker 2: the games, and it's like, that's so clearly not what happened.
Speaker 2: And the biggest issue is that, like and I give
Speaker 2: Vin's credit you know, Vince, Vince Tyree took some heat
Speaker 2: because he clearly, you know, has U of L in
Speaker 2: his blood. His father's Charlie Tyrae, one of the best
Speaker 2: that's ever done it. But Vin's played bat baseball at UK,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like he and when he
Speaker 2: was a UK like he was a UK fan, So
Speaker 2: there were always people that felt like, well he was
Speaker 2: he was appointed to that position because Bevin ran Jurish
Speaker 2: out of town and they wanted to put a UK
Speaker 2: guy in that seat. And I don't know, maybe some
Speaker 2: people still believe that, maybe maybe there's truth to it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, Vince was pretty he
Speaker 2: was professional, but also it was quite clear he wanted
Speaker 2: everybody at the press conference that was either there or
Speaker 2: listening to know, Yeah, I don't know how this guy
Speaker 2: got hired, but we've addressed it, you know. I think
Speaker 2: they moved him to like a different role, or maybe
Speaker 2: he moved on, but like that was the old I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure other other programs, other fan bases, like they've
Speaker 2: got wild stories that like they think is just so crazy.
Speaker 2: But and I'm sure part of it for me is
Speaker 2: just that I do this every day. Like it's it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's what I do, it's my life. But
Speaker 2: like we've had some stories over the years, Austin that
Speaker 2: you can't make up, Like you can't it's like sharing
Speaker 2: that whole thing for years back, like it almost still
Speaker 2: doesn't seem real.
Speaker 3: There was a time where anytime I ever heard on
Speaker 3: the radio local radio, because always listen to local radio
Speaker 3: just while driving work, and you already know, and even
Speaker 3: just watching the ticker on ESPN, every time I saw
Speaker 3: the words breaking news college basketball.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Louisville.
Speaker 3: And most of the time it was like what do
Speaker 3: what do they do this time?
Speaker 2: I mean the Dino Gattio.
Speaker 3: Thing, like, ah, just when you thought you were out
Speaker 3: of the woods.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you know, that was a that was a
Speaker 2: different I mean, that was a completely different regime, Like
Speaker 2: we had entirely new administrators in the athletic department, and
Speaker 2: then because of the nature of that story and the crime,
Speaker 2: the FEDS arrested Dino Gattio at work. Like, I mean, again,
Speaker 2: you can't make it up, Chris, it's I mean, and
Speaker 2: really like that's just terrible. I mean, if you think
Speaker 2: that that Mac was Mac was wrong because Dino and
Speaker 2: Luke should not have been let go. That's fine, like whatever,
Speaker 2: but for it to play out the way that it did.
Speaker 2: Like again, talk about bad luck for Mac Like he
Speaker 2: got he got I mean, he got extorted. He was
Speaker 2: essentially the victim here, although I guess his employer was
Speaker 2: the victim because they're the ones who reported it. But like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't. I mean, I've never believe we're
Speaker 2: cursed or anything like that. And in the end that
Speaker 2: didn't end up doing anything to like I mean, I
Speaker 2: do think it hurt Chris, But I mean, I tell
Speaker 2: you what, man, there's just there's there's some things that
Speaker 2: now that I look back on it, and maybe it's
Speaker 2: just because when you're caught up in you know, when
Speaker 2: you're caught up in the wh when it's ongoing, you
Speaker 2: don't really think. You don't think about ten years from now,
Speaker 2: twenty years from now, like what you'll think when you
Speaker 2: do go back in time to kind of relive the stories.
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like, as I'm sitting here
Speaker 2: now and on Thursday afternoon in the four o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it'll be a shock to
Speaker 2: me if I get to seventy eighty years old, God willing,
Speaker 2: of course, and I don't and I'm not able to
Speaker 2: tell people. Yeah, I kind of was able to cover
Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, you know, for a good run.
Speaker 2: It was the flagship station where we had the games.
Speaker 2: And obviously I've been you know, I've been, you know,
Speaker 2: I've covered U of l for for you know, over
Speaker 2: a decade now, so it's not like I've done it
Speaker 2: for my whole life. But I think I'll look back
Speaker 2: and think that era for me, especially whenever I was
Speaker 2: kind of you know, getting my opportunities to grow and
Speaker 2: have a bigger platform like the one we have here,
Speaker 2: Like I was doing that in the midst of like
Speaker 2: an era that you really can't like you can't make up, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I'll share stories, like
Speaker 2: maybe I won't be able to do it because I'm
Speaker 2: not confident enough, but like I think we could write
Speaker 2: a book or have somebody help us write a book
Speaker 2: about these stories. And you know, I mean for louisvill
Speaker 2: fans it might give them PTSD, but I think other
Speaker 2: people who aren't connected, who maybe you know, weren't even
Speaker 2: old enough to remember that going on at the time,
Speaker 2: they'll read it and think like, Wow, it was wild
Speaker 2: at U of L during those years.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: I remember waking up early one day and watching the whole,
Speaker 4: the whole outside the Lines on ESPN, first thing that
Speaker 4: came on at like eight o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 4: just just I was just trying to run from it
Speaker 4: at that point. I didn't want to watch anything to
Speaker 4: do with it.
Speaker 3: We were talking about thirty thirty.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would intentionally, dude, I would intentionally, and it
Speaker 2: probably wasn't good for me because you know, I needed
Speaker 2: to be up up to date. But I know exactly
Speaker 2: what you mean. I would intentionally, like run from the TV,
Speaker 2: change the channel if there would be national conversations about
Speaker 2: the Containa palases.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't want to make these squirm. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gross.
Speaker 4: And like I said, we're talking about thirty for thirties yesterday.
Speaker 4: Imagine the one that's probably gonna be on Louisville or
Speaker 4: the untold, because there's there's definitely got to be some
Speaker 4: sort of like wrap up or some sort of recap
Speaker 4: of everything that's happened, the downfall, the stripping of the
Speaker 4: national title, and just everything that went on through those years.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to be a whole
Speaker 4: Louisville thing or Rick Bettino type of thing that they
Speaker 4: do it in Louisville's just more or less involved because
Speaker 4: that's where he was. But I mean look back on that,
Speaker 4: and conversely, they might they use local radio calls.
Speaker 2: You might hear yourself on there, oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: And I tell you what, like just kind of thinking
Speaker 2: back and again there's, as I said to kind of
Speaker 2: start the conversation, it's not something that's like good, but
Speaker 2: it's just the reality of it. A lot of these
Speaker 2: things run together to where like you don't really remember
Speaker 2: like the time. I mean, it's it's hard to keep
Speaker 2: up with unfortunately, with all the drama and all the stories.
Speaker 2: But one thing that ten years later I'm really surprised
Speaker 2: by is that Andre McGee has never since publicly surfaced.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, live, but like he completely went off
Speaker 2: the grid and nobody has any I mean I don't
Speaker 2: think there's been any. I mean, I won't say who
Speaker 2: it is. You may be able to guess because he's
Speaker 2: still local around here and he played with him, but
Speaker 2: like nobody knows, like he's complete, he doesn't talk to
Speaker 2: anybody like Andrea McGee. Like, again, I'm sure he's okay
Speaker 2: as far as like you know, alive. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's hard to be off the grid this day and
Speaker 2: age with technology, and especially when you're somebody like he.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't he wouldn't be noticed if he walked into like
Speaker 2: a mall in a random city in America, because you know,
Speaker 2: it's not to that level. In hell, so much time's
Speaker 2: passed now, like he may be able to kind of
Speaker 2: blend in, But I mean, I thought for sure he would.
Speaker 2: He would defend himself, he would come out and tell
Speaker 2: his side of the story. He would say he was sorry,
Speaker 2: like one of those things. And he completely has never
Speaker 2: publicly surfaced. I don't to my knowledge, there's not been
Speaker 2: anybody that's because here's the thing, like if somebody, let's
Speaker 2: let me just give you an example. If if the
Speaker 2: Capitol J's out there, like the Bozich or the Crawfords,
Speaker 2: if they got a tip and they and they knew
Speaker 2: that that Andrea McGee was back in town working a
Speaker 2: normal job, they would probably try to do a story
Speaker 2: on him because that would be interesting to see, like
Speaker 2: how's life after all that happened, and you know, to
Speaker 2: my knowledge, he's just he's staying low, and you know
Speaker 2: that's that's that's hard to do this day and age.
Speaker 3: You would think he would have said something now because
Speaker 3: we're alls so good.
Speaker 2: And she would have, thoughty but defended himself because I
Speaker 2: never said a word. Therefore, all anybody's ever thought is that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure other people think he was just the I'm
Speaker 2: sure there are people that think he didn't do anything
Speaker 2: and it was all Patino, which is not realistic, but nonetheless,
Speaker 2: like he didn't have any I mean, wouldn't you want
Speaker 2: to say something even if you're guilty, Like you would
Speaker 2: want to say something to like show remorse and apologize,
Speaker 2: or if you didn't do it and like you know,
Speaker 2: you're being the fall guy, you would want to say something.
Speaker 2: He just completely went ghost.
Speaker 3: So much time has been removed, like you said, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think. I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when all that stuff came out and everyone was
Speaker 4: so freshly hot about it, probably stay off the grid.
Speaker 4: But now, like now, i'd be a perfect time to
Speaker 4: come out and tell your side of the story. I
Speaker 4: don't think anyone's going to be I don't know, Mad
Speaker 4: at you. I don't know, when you open up that wound,
Speaker 4: say everything that you did, and if you're under the
Speaker 4: impression that everything he did was there's ever a.
Speaker 2: Time, But there's ever a time to do it. It
Speaker 2: would be when things are going really really well that way, like,
Speaker 2: for example, if Pat Kelsey, you know, gets Louisville to
Speaker 2: a Final four next year or something. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think Andrea McGee would be embraced or welcome back
Speaker 2: with open arms or anything like that. But we wouldn't
Speaker 2: think like, oh my god, we're still sitting in misery
Speaker 2: all because of you. We would think like, hey, you
Speaker 2: know what, that sucked. It was embarrassing. I hate that
Speaker 2: it happened, but things played out a certain way and
Speaker 2: now here we are and we wouldn't change it, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, so I don't know
Speaker 2: if we'll ever hear from him. But again, I not
Speaker 2: that people sit around and think about Andrew McGee, but
Speaker 2: I do think when you consider that it's been ten
Speaker 2: years since that story and he was coaching as a
Speaker 2: college basketball assistant elsewhere at the time, he's completely like
Speaker 2: the last time anybody anybody knew of him. It was
Speaker 2: the outside of the lines guy who got into the Uber.
Speaker 2: He was driving Uber in Kansas City because he'd been
Speaker 2: let go at his job at UMKC and he didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk. And to my knowledge, nobody's ever had
Speaker 2: him on record saying anything since then, so kind of wild.
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Speaker 2: We were wrapping up the four o'clock hour. Thanks for
Speaker 2: hanging out with us here on a Thursday afternoon, getting
Speaker 2: set for the NFL Draft tonight. By all accounts, cam
Speaker 2: Ward will be the first player taken as the Titans
Speaker 2: just what three years after?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Two or three years after drafting a quarterback? And well,
Speaker 2: I guess they didn't take Levis in the first round.
Speaker 2: He fell to the second round. But at the time,
Speaker 2: I think they believed he was gonna be a franchise guy.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess maybe, well, I don't know
Speaker 2: what happens with Levis here. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I would imagine cam Ward's being drafted to be the guy.
Speaker 2: He's probably the same ages with Levis, probably, I think,
Speaker 2: so yeah, so you know, maybe Levis becomes traded. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I now understand. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot that I've had a lot going on
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours where it's just my mind
Speaker 2: is probably not I don't know if it works that
Speaker 2: well in general, but probably not working as good as
Speaker 2: it typically does with the last day of just you know,
Speaker 2: being hectic on my end. But I get now why
Speaker 2: Kentucky Football's Twitter account was being roasted on by everybody,
Speaker 2: including like thrown fans, because they posted a graphic of
Speaker 2: Levis and I mean it really it was him doing
Speaker 2: L's down, And I guess they're just acknowledging, like, hey,
Speaker 2: the draft is coming up tonight or tomorrow. I think
Speaker 2: they posted to yesterday and we want to put some
Speaker 2: content out And oh, by the way, we had a
Speaker 2: quarterback taken in the draft a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: so you know it's cute. Here's here's us reminding you. Yeah, cute,
Speaker 2: but yeah, the picture says now, and then Will Levis
Speaker 2: and it shows a picture of Levis doing l's down
Speaker 2: in a Kentucky uniform, and then a picture of him
Speaker 2: in a Titan uniform throwing the ball. And I guess again,
Speaker 2: it's just like content that they're putting out there too,
Speaker 2: you know, let people know, Hey, it's draft day, here's
Speaker 2: one of our notable draft moments, stories, whatever. But like
Speaker 2: it's kind of a self own, is it not? Because
Speaker 2: the first got taken is there to take his job? Like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You're reminding people, Oh, yeah, he was just taken by
Speaker 2: the Titans a couple of years ago, and you know
Speaker 2: now they're already moving on from him and drafting a
Speaker 2: quarterback with the first pick.
Speaker 4: Nick, they're most likely I mean the room right, it's
Speaker 4: and they're most likely probably gonna be looking to trade
Speaker 4: him tonight. While you're asking what they're what happens Will
Speaker 4: Lev's from Levis from here? As far as I also know,
Speaker 4: every team has a pick in the first round tonight.
Speaker 4: So for there's a there's there's a bet. Sure the
Speaker 4: very rare, So expect a ton of trades expected to
Speaker 4: go very long tonight. I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 4: ton of set you up for that one. I expect,
Speaker 4: I expect there to be I expect there to be, like, uh,
Speaker 4: more than a few trades, and you'll probably see Will.
Speaker 3: Levis wind up in one of those trade packages.
Speaker 2: Trades fun, and you know, there can be value in
Speaker 2: trades from the organizational standpoint, where it's a good move
Speaker 2: for the you know, for the franchise overall, but from
Speaker 2: the entertainment aspect as a fan, when they're just doing
Speaker 2: a bunch of trades for picks and it's not even
Speaker 2: for like a big name like you know, that doesn't
Speaker 2: do much for me. Again, it's still you know they're
Speaker 2: doing They're not They're not making these moves to entertain us.
Speaker 2: They're doing it to you know, figure out what's going
Speaker 2: to make the most sense for their franchise moving forward.
Speaker 2: But it would be wild if you see like a
Speaker 2: franchise player unexpectedly get moved tonight because of like you know,
Speaker 2: and that that's that's the kind of stuff that makes
Speaker 2: the draft really really fun. Have you ever seen the
Speaker 2: movie with Kevin Costner.
Speaker 3: A Draft Day? Have you seen it?
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. I've watched I haven't watched it, fully,
Speaker 4: I kind of know what goes on.
Speaker 2: Though, Well, let me tell you this. I I've learned
Speaker 2: that like I'm not, I'm certainly not a movie snob,
Speaker 2: and I guess, like I you know, I'm I'm a
Speaker 2: peasant when it comes to like taste in movies, because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of movies that I hear like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's terrible, it's it's awful, it's corny, it's predictable, cliche,
Speaker 2: and like I typically end up like thinking those movies
Speaker 2: are pretty good. Like I like that movie, and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it's it's like widely known as like one
Speaker 2: of the biggest you know, jokes of all time in cinema.
Speaker 2: I mean that's an exaggeration, but like any buzz that
Speaker 2: movie got was about how awful it was. And I
Speaker 2: watched it the other day. It was actually on like
Speaker 2: v H one and it and you know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of corny, it you know, it's clearly you know, there's
Speaker 2: clearly some cliche stuff within it, but like overall, like
Speaker 2: I thought, it was actually pretty good. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: got big names in it too, so but yeah, that
Speaker 2: that whole you know, that movie shows a lot of
Speaker 2: different trades and behind the scenes stuff of like, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not exactly like it happens in real life,
Speaker 2: but you know, big you know, drama trades, unexpected moves
Speaker 2: like that's what makes the draft entertaining.
Speaker 4: And Jennifer Gardner and Dennis Leary, Yeah I forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Dennis Leary is the is like the the prickly coach
Speaker 2: who's fighting with the GM to get you know, get
Speaker 2: him what he wants to work with. Costner is that's
Speaker 2: who's in it, right, Costner is, yeah, character think he's
Speaker 2: he's the GM and there's a new rich owner that
Speaker 2: owns the team and Costner took over for his dad,
Speaker 2: and everybody's claiming he only got the job because of
Speaker 2: his dad, but he's got to prove it to himself
Speaker 2: and then he ends up dating it's it's again like
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that it's it's must watch, but
Speaker 2: like you know, you can you know the quality, the acting,
Speaker 2: maybe even the overall storyline. You can compromise there. For me,
Speaker 2: if it's a movie where the subject matter is something
Speaker 2: I'm really interested and that's why Christmas movies. If we're
Speaker 2: being honest, a lot of them suck. They're stupid, but
Speaker 2: it's Christmas and we want to, like, you know, we
Speaker 2: give it a pass as far as where they cut
Speaker 2: corners because again it's it's it's about Christmas and we
Speaker 2: want to be in the season. So yeah, Draft Day,
Speaker 2: I'm just here to tell you, if you want to
Speaker 2: watch it, I think you'll realize that it may not
Speaker 2: have been as bad as everybody said it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Chadwick Boseman was in it too play. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's why I remember the name that Vonte Mack, And yeah,
Speaker 4: always thought it was weird because I remember watching it,
Speaker 4: the highly regarded draft prospect they're going after in.
Speaker 2: A bad way, and that's what everybody like, Oh it sucks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's once again, I've only watched parts of it,
Speaker 4: but I've always heard everyone say it sucked. But I, like,
Speaker 4: I didn't hate it when watching it. I did think
Speaker 4: it was odd that that guy that they're going after.
Speaker 4: Find out that the Vonte Mack, the guy that Chad
Speaker 4: Chadwick Boseman was playing, was a top draft expert that
Speaker 4: or the top draft prospect that everyone was going after,
Speaker 4: and he was a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Like that's not that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: So so how it played out was that he was
Speaker 2: the ultimate surprise there. Yeah, they got they got crushed
Speaker 2: for taking him because there's this there's this darling quarterback
Speaker 2: that everybody's talking about, like, you got to take him
Speaker 2: if he's there, he's special, he's the next guy of
Speaker 2: all people? Did he his is his agent, that's right,
Speaker 2: meaning the star quarterback. Well, Kostner ends up doing all
Speaker 2: these you know, just there's something he doesn't. There's something
Speaker 2: he doesn't. It just isn't. It isn't in adding up
Speaker 2: to him. He thinks there's some reason why he should
Speaker 2: avoid this quarterback that everybody has said it's going to
Speaker 2: be the next face of the NFL, and he just
Speaker 2: can't figure out what it is. But he's digging. He's digging,
Speaker 2: and he finally realizes that when he was in college,
Speaker 2: none of his teammates came to his day celebration, and
Speaker 2: that led to him realizing that he wasn't a good teammates.
Speaker 2: So again, like it's kind of corny, I guess, but
Speaker 2: like those are things that quite literally we've heard stories
Speaker 2: for years about the NFL asking questions and I probably
Speaker 2: you know, there's more examples of them overreacting to something
Speaker 2: like that. But regardless of what they do with the information,
Speaker 2: if they're going to invest in you and hire you
Speaker 2: essentially and make you an early picks, certainly they're gonna
Speaker 2: know everything about you.
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: Again, if you watch it and you hate it, then
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry, But I think you know. I
Speaker 2: think it's actually a movie that if if you did.
Speaker 2: And also the bar is probably not high because all
Speaker 2: we ever heard about, at least from my knowledge, was
Speaker 2: that it was terrible. But I actually thought it was
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 3: Kevin Costner in sports movies usually hit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the movie where he was like the pitcher
Speaker 2: in baseball. That was one that came out when I
Speaker 2: was a kid. And then obviously there's that golf movie.
Speaker 2: Is it ten Cup?
Speaker 3: Is he in that ten Cup? Yes, he's in ten
Speaker 3: Cup two.
Speaker 2: He's a star.
Speaker 3: Great golf movie, He's a star.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm sorry. The baseball movie. I was thinking that
Speaker 2: was Dennis Quaid, the Rookie.
Speaker 3: Yes, Kevin Costner is the Bull Durham, Bull Durham.
Speaker 2: Yes, I knew it was a baseball movie in there.
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