Speaker 1: Good evening everybody. Kind of a late show for me today.
Speaker 1: I usually knocked these out in the morning, but it's
Speaker 1: about seven o'clock at night on the nineteenth. Merry Christmas
Speaker 1: to all of you out there. Hopefully everyone celebrates the Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's the one time a year I really appreciate all
Speaker 1: the things you're supposed to appreciate on Christmas, right, So
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to everybody. I hope everybody had a good year. Today.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue on with the David Faery file.
Speaker 1: It's notated in the file that this is this we've
Speaker 1: gotten to the second part or the second file actually
Speaker 1: is hots dictated, but really it's all just lumped together,
Speaker 1: broken into a couple segments. We're on the David Ferry
Speaker 1: file too, and we're going to cover the Eastern Airlines
Speaker 1: evidence for court case. That's the document we're on now.
Speaker 1: Some of it's kind of hard to read, so I
Speaker 1: might have to I might stumble through it. So let
Speaker 1: me just tell a side story here. This this documentar
Speaker 1: on right now is basically the gathering of evidence of
Speaker 1: Eastern airlines in the case against David Ferry, and so
Speaker 1: I took this page which is kind of hard to read,
Speaker 1: and I just put it into Grock, you know, AI,
Speaker 1: which I'm not really the biggest fan. I'm the biggest
Speaker 1: fan in some ways and not in others, and mostly
Speaker 1: I give it a fail. But I put it into
Speaker 1: GROC and I said, please clarify the text in this
Speaker 1: document and then display the correct the correct text here.
Speaker 1: So it starts to think. It thinks for about a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, and as it's thinking, it's it's I see.
Speaker 1: I screenshotted this too because I thought it was odd.
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do is look at the text
Speaker 1: and take the text and tell me what the text says.
Speaker 1: But it launched a prompt and started to look for context,
Speaker 1: and so it started to like it started to google
Speaker 1: the shit, or however it does it looking at various websites,
Speaker 1: and it determined that the text itself was wrong. Right,
Speaker 1: the text itself talks about David Faery very clearly. It's
Speaker 1: all about David Fery. But what GROC did was groc
Speaker 1: it looked for context in the document and so it
Speaker 1: ended up finding all the Perry Russo stuff and all
Speaker 1: kinds of other stuff about Clay Shaw and the whole
Speaker 1: nine yards, and it started talking to Kennedy conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 1: And then it went in and it thought it corrected
Speaker 1: the context of the document. That all I wanted to
Speaker 1: do is pull the text and display the text. It
Speaker 1: replaced David Ferry's name with Perry Russo and changed the
Speaker 1: entire context of the document. So AI Wance again is
Speaker 1: a complete fucking fail in regards to it just performing
Speaker 1: a simple task. I wanted to just read the text
Speaker 1: and tell me what the text said, that's it. But
Speaker 1: that's not what it did. It overthought the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So that's my side story on YAI still sucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this document here is very difficult to read. Half
Speaker 1: of it's kind of just missing, so I'm gonna definitely
Speaker 1: stumble through it. At the top, it says JS Martin
Speaker 1: Publications as if it's like a header, and it's got
Speaker 1: his address and all that stuff there. So I'm assuming
Speaker 1: this is a letter from Jack Martin. Yes it is, Okay,
Speaker 1: it says thirty first day of May nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: It looks like yeah, because this is all in regards
Speaker 1: to Eastern airlines, so it's pre assassination to mister William
Speaker 1: Bell General Council Eastern Airlines. Blah blah blah. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: skip over that because I can't read. It says reference
Speaker 1: to David W. Fairry case. Dear mister Bell, last year,
Speaker 1: you're representative or investigators something our company to review the
Speaker 1: David W. Ferry case. Come by and interview. I think
Speaker 1: it says interview something me about me, something about me,
Speaker 1: interview about me? Maybe. I think these people said they
Speaker 1: were from the Southern Southern Something bureau owned by former
Speaker 1: FBI agents in Shreveport, Louisiana, a mister Henry Roberts. The
Speaker 1: investigator's name was Joseph Oster. At the time I cooperated.
Speaker 1: Isn't Joseph Oster? Isn't it a name associated with the
Speaker 1: Warren Commission at the time. I cooperated with these people
Speaker 1: and turned over to them various letters and documents to
Speaker 1: be used in evidence against this David W. Ferry person,
Speaker 1: a former captain of your airline company. These proved that
Speaker 1: one Ferry purchased his phony PhD Degree, two, that he
Speaker 1: had made application to a religious order as a priest
Speaker 1: up in New York before the first of the year
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two three, that after being turned down
Speaker 1: by the above organization. He made an additional application with
Speaker 1: another since the first of the year in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: Four that he Fairy had been turned down by them,
Speaker 1: and why his character at and can't read that. Five
Speaker 1: that Fairy is currently employed as an investigator and law
Speaker 1: clerk by an attorney here in New Orleans for fifty
Speaker 1: dollars per week. And where those something something be? I
Speaker 1: can't read that either. And it says payroll records and
Speaker 1: testimony and where those records something be? Oh, where those
Speaker 1: records are and where those records are stored? Payroll records
Speaker 1: and testimony. Six How Faery something his case over in
Speaker 1: lost his case over in Jefferson Parish in his criminal
Speaker 1: case that is, by false testimony something something I can't
Speaker 1: read that given by an employee at your company, And
Speaker 1: how this evidence could be secured? Also something what it was,
Speaker 1: et cetera. You could have something your You could have
Speaker 1: something for your and never find it unless you know
Speaker 1: just what it is you're looking for. I also got
Speaker 1: something stem stemonict stead amonic something I can't read that
Speaker 1: about Fairy's conduct or I got a statement about Faery's
Speaker 1: conduct his I can't read definitely read can't read that
Speaker 1: something his something, and how he brought about the death
Speaker 1: to all something of his. I can't read that either
Speaker 1: by his tantrum and Thom's Thompson Thompson fits is what
Speaker 1: it looks like. And I basically can't even read that
Speaker 1: that last paragraph except for it says something life in
Speaker 1: his hands needs a psychiatrist, signed Jack Martin. Interesting, huh,
Speaker 1: Jack Martin and Dave Ferry didn't get along at all,
Speaker 1: not one bit. That's why, you know, when Jack Martin
Speaker 1: called the FBI November twenty second and recalled on David
Speaker 1: Ferry said he was in Dallas and Fort Worth two
Speaker 1: days before the assassination. You can guarantee that that was
Speaker 1: absolutely true. And when he recanted that statement, he did
Speaker 1: so because he just had to play ball like everyone else,
Speaker 1: you know. Next letter in here is a memo District Attorney,
Speaker 1: Parish of Orlands, State of Louisiana, twenty seven hundred Tulane Avenue,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, nineteen sixty two. We might have already covered
Speaker 1: this one because the handwritten notes on the side look
Speaker 1: kind of familiar. So we'll see dated November seven, sixty two,
Speaker 1: mister William Bell Legal Department, Eastern Airlines reference David Ferry.
Speaker 1: Dear mister Bell, this is from Jim Garrison in response
Speaker 1: to your request No. Number seven sixty two. I've ascertained
Speaker 1: the status of the case penning against David Ferry. Yet
Speaker 1: we already covered this document, so I'll go ahead and
Speaker 1: skip it. Okay, So this next one references Bishop Hyde.
Speaker 1: I have become convinced Hyde was a partner in crime
Speaker 1: at David Ferry for his child trafficking through the Civil
Speaker 1: Air Patrol. This looks like a letter, doesn't look like
Speaker 1: an official document. Reference to David W. Ferry aka doctor
Speaker 1: David Francescas Ferry fr an ce Scus Ferry, doctor David
Speaker 1: Francescas Ferry July thirtieth, thirtieth, thirty first and August second,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. Bishop George A. Hyde was located at
Speaker 1: sixteen fifty seven Park Road, Northwest Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 1: he advised he has lived for the past three or
Speaker 1: four months. He stated there is no parish of the
Speaker 1: Orthodox Catholic Church in the District of Columbia, and that
Speaker 1: he serves the Washington, Southern Maryland, and Northern Virginia area.
Speaker 1: He advised his present address serves as study house and
Speaker 1: a place of abode for his postulates and no novitiates.
Speaker 1: He presently has three young men at his address you
Speaker 1: don't say, expects one more on August third, sixty three,
Speaker 1: another on August fifteenth, sixty three, and a total of
Speaker 1: six or seven for the nineteen sixty three fall term.
Speaker 1: Each person holds an outside job and turns all of
Speaker 1: his money over to a common fund to run the house.
Speaker 1: Religious studies are usually conducted in the evening, and he
Speaker 1: has one member he hopes to enroll in the American
Speaker 1: University for the nineteen sixty three fall term. Bishop Hide
Speaker 1: admits he had not registered in the district of Columbia
Speaker 1: and he's not legally empowered to perform marriages, but stated
Speaker 1: that he does not consider it to be necessary inasmuch
Speaker 1: as he does not have a parish. When queried as
Speaker 1: to conducting funerals, he stated he has conducted funerals in
Speaker 1: some marriages in the New York state area. However, when
Speaker 1: asked as to the last funeral he conducted, he was
Speaker 1: very evasive as to where and when, and finally said
Speaker 1: he had conducted a funeral for one of his members
Speaker 1: who in his study who had died in mid July.
Speaker 1: When queried as to where this funeral and internment took place,
Speaker 1: he stated he did not desire nor would he furnish
Speaker 1: any information concerning the operation of his community. He did
Speaker 1: say the one who was buried was Brother Luke. Bishop
Speaker 1: Hid advised he has never met David Ferry in person.
Speaker 1: His first contact with Ferry occurred within the past two years,
Speaker 1: probably about one and a half years ago. On this occasion,
Speaker 1: Fairy was in New Orleans and had been requested to
Speaker 1: conduct a bishop contact the bishop by a person who
Speaker 1: was very ill in the hospital. Hyde was not sure
Speaker 1: if this contact was by telephone or by letter. He
Speaker 1: stated following his initial contact, he has had frequent correspondence
Speaker 1: with Ferry, both by mail and telephone. Approximately six months ago,
Speaker 1: after considerable discussion along religious lines, Ferry asked the bishop
Speaker 1: to ordain him. Hide claims he told Ferry that since
Speaker 1: he had not met him in person, he'd not been
Speaker 1: able to study him at first hand, he could not
Speaker 1: in full justice acquiesce to this request. Hyde states that
Speaker 1: he told Faerry that if he would come to Washington
Speaker 1: and enter the study first for six months as a postulant,
Speaker 1: then for a year as a novitiate, he would consider
Speaker 1: ordaining him. Hide advised that Faerry could not accede to
Speaker 1: the requirements for his financial situation would not allow it.
Speaker 1: Their correspondence telephonically and by letter continued. Faerry, in early
Speaker 1: summer sixty three again made his request to be ordained.
Speaker 1: Hyde stated he told Ferry to send him a list
Speaker 1: of his educational attainments and he would forward them to
Speaker 1: the archbishop at Kanka Key, Illinois, and let the activity
Speaker 1: continue from there. When queried as to the form in
Speaker 1: which the attainments were received, i e. Transcripts or resumes,
Speaker 1: Hyde was evasive. At this point. He apparently, in the
Speaker 1: moment of laxity, called the subject doctor Ferry. When asked
Speaker 1: to the basis of the doctorate in what field, Hyde
Speaker 1: stated he was not sure of the basis, but believed
Speaker 1: that maybe an honorary degree. He finally admitted that most
Speaker 1: likely he had received a resume from David Ferry and
Speaker 1: no transcripts. Hyde states he made a cursory perusal of
Speaker 1: these items and forwarded them to Bishop Marchena in Kanka Key, Illinois.
Speaker 1: Bishop Marchena, that's another guy. I need to look into.
Speaker 1: At some point. Hyde claims that Bishop Marchena visited him
Speaker 1: at Washington d C. In the early part of July
Speaker 1: sixty three, and that time Hide endeavored to convince Marchena
Speaker 1: it was in the good interest of the church that
Speaker 1: he felt before anyone was ordained into the church, they
Speaker 1: should be given an examination into the canon law of
Speaker 1: the church by all of the bishops in the church,
Speaker 1: since one bishop might ordain a person not really suitable
Speaker 1: to cloth and would thus become a misfit and a
Speaker 1: detriment to the church if they were to go to
Speaker 1: some other area. Let me pause just for a second
Speaker 1: right here, because I need to point out for a
Speaker 1: second that the relationship between Hyde and Fairy was much
Speaker 1: more important than Hide is letting onto here. When David
Speaker 1: Faery died, he only asked that two people be notified,
Speaker 1: and one of those people was this Reverend Hide. That
Speaker 1: means that he held a very high position of importance to
Speaker 1: David Faerry. To me, the idea that he never met
Speaker 1: Hide is suspect at best. Hyde stated that he told
Speaker 1: Ferry that he felt that this would be to Faerry's
Speaker 1: best interest in the case of his requesting to be ordained.
Speaker 1: Hyde claims Marchena seemed to be seemed to begin to
Speaker 1: accept the idea. Hyde stated he is aware that Ferry
Speaker 1: was not ordained at July nineteenth, nineteen sixty three, and
Speaker 1: that he advised Ferry not to go to Kankakee at
Speaker 1: this point. In order to more properly evaluate the comments
Speaker 1: of Hyde, it is necessary to set out information obtained
Speaker 1: from Hyde concerning when Jack Martin. During the course of
Speaker 1: the interview with Hide, he was asked how the name
Speaker 1: of Jack Martin was associated with he and Ferry. Hyde
Speaker 1: stated he believed that he had first come into contact
Speaker 1: with Jack Martin some years ago in New York City
Speaker 1: not named. He describes Martin as an outright rounder, living
Speaker 1: by fraud, blackmail, and other devious means. Martin learned that
Speaker 1: Hyde needed a seal and provided him with one. Later,
Speaker 1: he gave a painting as a gift. For these favors.
Speaker 1: Martin requested Hide to ordain him as a priest, which
Speaker 1: Hyde refused. Martin became associated with a branch of the
Speaker 1: church at Louisville, Kentucky, considered France considered frauds by Hyde,
Speaker 1: and the latter became manner unknown associated with Faery. There
Speaker 1: is some indication Fairy also spent some time in Louisville.
Speaker 1: Ferry began to question the church authority of Martin, and
Speaker 1: Martin then advised the head of the church at Louisville. Supposedly,
Speaker 1: Faerry was read out of the church and vicious comments
Speaker 1: made about him which are attributable to Martin. Hyde claims
Speaker 1: that Martin has made allegations as to homosexuality concerning various
Speaker 1: officials of the church, including himself. Martin reportedly has written
Speaker 1: letters to various persons alleging misdeeds of hide, including the
Speaker 1: molesting of children, claiming as proof because of publicity in
Speaker 1: Washington newspapers, Hyde states that Martin is the kind of
Speaker 1: person who will write to persons like Richard Cardinal Cushing
Speaker 1: praising him for some public stand he has taken. Hyde
Speaker 1: stated that Cushing, being the high type of individual he is,
Speaker 1: will answer with a letter acknowledging the comment, and that
Speaker 1: Martin will then use the letter to indicate he's a
Speaker 1: friend of Cardinal Cushing. In this way, he obtains entry
Speaker 1: into groups that he would not otherwise have access to.
Speaker 1: Hyde has advised that he has made a notification to
Speaker 1: the Post Office Department concerning the activities of Martin, and
Speaker 1: has received a letter of acknowledgment from a Postal inspector
Speaker 1: advising that he has opened a case onto the matter.
Speaker 1: Hyde further advised he is making a compilation of the
Speaker 1: allegations and activities of Martin with the view in mind
Speaker 1: of prosecuting him. During the interview, Hyde was asked to
Speaker 1: reflect further on the circumstances under which he first came
Speaker 1: into contact with Ferry. After some reflection, Hyde rather hesitantly
Speaker 1: stated it could be Jack Martin, though being overwrought, has
Speaker 1: suffered a coronary attack and was hospitalized in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: At this point, Hyde commented that Martin needed more than
Speaker 1: a regular MD to look after him. He needed someone
Speaker 1: who had gone further in the medical profession. When pinned
Speaker 1: down on this comment, Hyde stated he believed Martin needed
Speaker 1: psychiatric treatment. When questioned as to his reason for making
Speaker 1: such a comment, Hyde stated he understood Martin had been
Speaker 1: confined to the psychiatric wards of Charity Hospital in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and at Los Angeles, California. In New Orleans, he
Speaker 1: was said to have undergone shock treatment. Hyde stated that
Speaker 1: about the time Ferry was to be in Kanka Key
Speaker 1: to take his canon law examination from the bishops. Ferry
Speaker 1: was required to be in Miami, Florida on a business
Speaker 1: matter nature not disclosed. Hyde stated he learned Jack Martin
Speaker 1: was in Kanka Key for the bishop's meeting at which
Speaker 1: Ferry was to be examined. In contact with Ferry in Miami,
Speaker 1: he advised Faerry that he should not go to Kanka
Speaker 1: Key as Martin was there and would make a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble. Eventually, reflecting on the Church no matter how
Speaker 1: long true, Hyde stated he is the only bishop that
Speaker 1: did not attend this conference, explaining that urgent matters at
Speaker 1: the study, outside activity, lack of money, and the like
Speaker 1: convinced him that he should not attend this conference. He
Speaker 1: did not mention the funeral at this time. Hyde stated
Speaker 1: he has had Ferry do some research and made rough
Speaker 1: drafts of legislation to be enacted by the Church concerning
Speaker 1: the proposed plan to have all bishops rule on the
Speaker 1: eligibility of a candidate for ordination. Hyde claims he has
Speaker 1: learned that Martin has since spread the false information that
Speaker 1: Faerry flew from Miami to Washington, picked up Hyde, and
Speaker 1: the two flew together to Kankakee. Hyde also claims that
Speaker 1: a number of bishops are jealous of the Archbishop Marchena
Speaker 1: and are making all kinds of plans to have him
Speaker 1: ejected from his position. Hyde refused to give a signed
Speaker 1: statement on the grounds that he did not know who
Speaker 1: would have access to the statement and that many of
Speaker 1: the other bishops would delight in getting information as to
Speaker 1: his operations. Hyde stated he has built a wall around
Speaker 1: his community and that only he has the key. He
Speaker 1: did state that if he could be sure Marceno was
Speaker 1: to be the only person to see the report, he
Speaker 1: would give a signed statement. When queried as to whether
Speaker 1: he would agree to the investigators understanding of his comments,
Speaker 1: which we which were reiterated to him and reviewed on
Speaker 1: pertinent points, he agreed that the investigators appeared to have
Speaker 1: grasped what he wanted to say about the matter. The
Speaker 1: following information was developed concerning George A. Hyde. Inquiry requests
Speaker 1: for information reveals George A. Hyde is known as a bishop.
Speaker 1: Attached newspaper clipping reflects that he has held himself out
Speaker 1: to the DC Juvenile Court as an Orthodox Catholic friar.
Speaker 1: The DC Credit Bureau has no record of a George Hyde.
Speaker 1: From a highly confidential source, most reliable who has access
Speaker 1: to the Holy Roman Catholic Church chancery records, it is
Speaker 1: been learned that George A. Hyde and his activities have
Speaker 1: come to their attention, but has no official connection with
Speaker 1: that church. Aha, and the letter or whatever this is
Speaker 1: cuts off here at this point, probably because it starts
Speaker 1: to get good and that's where it was censored by
Speaker 1: those who censor reports on And so just from the contexts,
Speaker 1: it would appear that this letter continues on with more detail,
Speaker 1: but it just kind of ends there, and so we
Speaker 1: pick up the next document in this Eastern Airlines case file.
Speaker 1: Mister Malcolm McIntyre, President Eastern Airlines, Inc. New York, New York.
Speaker 1: Dear Sir, the writer has been a private investigator for
Speaker 1: a number of years, and during that time has been
Speaker 1: acquainted with many investigative agencies their personnel, technique, integrity or
Speaker 1: lack of it. His experience with Eastern Airlines is not
Speaker 1: so extensive. A recent experience is causing him concern and anger.
Speaker 1: I was recently contacted by an individual who represented himself
Speaker 1: to be an employee of Southern Research and an employee
Speaker 1: of Eastern Airlines. The contact was relative to an investigation
Speaker 1: of one Captain David W. Ferry. I've known Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: for some time and used his services in solving a
Speaker 1: thorny case in which the federal government was interested. Thus,
Speaker 1: I can vouch for the man in his integrity. The
Speaker 1: individual who contacted me used threats and intimidation, all in
Speaker 1: violation of Louisiana statutes to get me to cooperate in
Speaker 1: framing Captain Ferry. When I would not yield, blandishments were
Speaker 1: offered in the form of a bribe to assisting in
Speaker 1: hanging this man. This strikes me as detestable. When I
Speaker 1: would not cooperate with these people, I was subjected to harassment,
Speaker 1: my house placed under surveillance, neighbors contacted, and in general
Speaker 1: my peace and quiet disturbed. This is the way Eastern Airline?
Speaker 1: Is this the way Eastern Airlines operates? Is it part
Speaker 1: of your policy to harass the general publics so that
Speaker 1: something can be framed against one of your own employees.
Speaker 1: I hardly think that a man of your integrity and
Speaker 1: position would tolerate such conduct. I read the newspapers there
Speaker 1: were where thirteen of your captain exposed their ships and
Speaker 1: their passengers to unnecessary hazards by having stewardesses on their
Speaker 1: laps while in flight. Their wrists were slapped and they
Speaker 1: were sent back to work. Contrari Wise, this man who
Speaker 1: has worked hard and honorably for Eastern is being subjected
Speaker 1: to a campaign to get him fired. Illegal and unethical
Speaker 1: activities are being employed. I trust that a man in
Speaker 1: your position will not permit this to continue, and that
Speaker 1: Captain Ferry will be restored to flight status without further delay. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm compelled to advise my associates and subordinates not to
Speaker 1: patronize Eastern Airlines until the situation is cleared up. I
Speaker 1: hope to have your early reply. Here is truly Jack Martin,
Speaker 1: of all people. So Jack Martin goes from throwing Ferry
Speaker 1: under the bus. There's no date on this thing. There's
Speaker 1: an FBI stamp on it of January eighteenth, nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: Could that be correct? Yeah? What were the dates of
Speaker 1: the other one? The other one was what summer sixty two?
Speaker 1: And he's throwing Ferry under the bus. So what's up
Speaker 1: with that? Duplicit as bastard? Okay, this next one from
Speaker 1: Martin Waldron New York Times Room seven twenty nine, Cronkyle Building,
Speaker 1: Houston to Lieutenant Marvin Leonard, New Orleans Police Department. Dear
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Leonard, in accordance with our conversation of today, I
Speaker 1: am here with submitting the following questions. One Why did
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Police Department arrest Dave Ferry on November
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three in connection with the investigation of Lee
Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald? Two? Was there any indication that mister Ferry
Speaker 1: had any connection with Oswald during nineteen sixty three or
Speaker 1: during the nineteen fifties when Oswald was a student in
Speaker 1: junior high school and high school in New Orleans. Three?
Speaker 1: Why did Lieutenant Paul Dwyer and Sergeant Frederick sp O'Sullivan
Speaker 1: a massad agent? Just so you know, Frederick O'Sullivan friend
Speaker 1: of Oswald growing up, member of cap Why did Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Paul Dwyer and Sergeant Frederick O'Sullivan have a suspicion that
Speaker 1: mister Ferry may have flown Oswald to Dallas, as reported
Speaker 1: by Sergeant O'Sullivan in his testimony before the President's commissioned
Speaker 1: to investigate the assassination of President Kennedy. We wanted to
Speaker 1: check it, Ferries plain, This is the quote, to see
Speaker 1: if it was flyable, to see possibly whether he had
Speaker 1: been flying it lately, with the thought that he may
Speaker 1: have transported Oswald to Dallas. No, he didn't transport fucking
Speaker 1: Oswald to Dallas, Jesus Christ. Four Did the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Police Department Vice squad know or have reports that mister
Speaker 1: Ferry and Oswald had been associating together just prior to this? Five?
Speaker 1: Where was mister Ferry on the day President Kennedy was assassinated?
Speaker 1: Who he was in Dallas? Six? Does mister Ferry have
Speaker 1: a police record for or is he known as a
Speaker 1: sex deviate? If so, what kind? Seven? Did Lee Harvey
Speaker 1: Oswald have a record of or was he purported to
Speaker 1: be a sex deviate? If so, what kind? When mister
Speaker 1: Fairy is number eight. When mister Ferry was arrested November
Speaker 1: sixty three, shortly after President Kennedy's assassination and booked at
Speaker 1: the first District station, what was he charged with? Who
Speaker 1: arrested him? Did he make a statement? Yes? Yes, got
Speaker 1: some good questions. Did he make a statement? Do we
Speaker 1: have a statement from David Ferry? No? We don't none
Speaker 1: of those. We don't have any of those documents. Nine.
Speaker 1: While mister Ferry was in custody, did agents of the
Speaker 1: Federal Bureau of Investigation interrogate him? If so, what did
Speaker 1: mister Ferry tell the agents? Ten? Do the Civil Air
Speaker 1: Patrol records indicate that Oswald was a member of the
Speaker 1: CAAP in a squadron which mister Ferry headed. Eleven How
Speaker 1: old is David Ferry? Where was he born? How long
Speaker 1: has he been known to the New Orleans Police Department? Twelve?
Speaker 1: Do New Orleans Police officials have any reason to believe
Speaker 1: that mister Ferry may have been instrumental in suggesting or
Speaker 1: urging Oswald to commit violence, in particular the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 1: If so, please explain. Thirteen There have been reports that
Speaker 1: mister Ferry has been acting as a pilot for Carlos Marcelo,
Speaker 1: reputed to be involved in various shady enterprises in southern Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to the Fourteen? The New Orleans
Speaker 1: Police officials know why the staff of the President's comissioned
Speaker 1: to investigate the assassination of President Kennedy did not call
Speaker 1: mister Ferry as a witness. That's a good question. When
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Francis L. Martello arrested Lee Harvey Oswald in August ninth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, for a fracas on Canal Street, did
Speaker 1: Oswald ask to be interviewed by an FBI agent? If so,
Speaker 1: did he ask for an agent by name? Do New
Speaker 1: Orleans Police officials have any reason to believe or suspect
Speaker 1: that Oswald was attempting to infiltrate anti castro units when
Speaker 1: he approached Carlos Brenier shortly before this August ninth fracas Seventeen?
Speaker 1: Is there any reason to believe or suspect that the
Speaker 1: Federal Bureau of Investigations or any of its agents may
Speaker 1: have paid Oswald or promised to pay him in connection
Speaker 1: with his anti Castro or pro castro fiascoes? Eighteen? Did
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Police Department find out any of Oswald's
Speaker 1: pamphlets at mister Ferry's home or did any other investigators
Speaker 1: find such material? Nineteen? Have New Orleans Police officials interrogated
Speaker 1: a man named A. W. Will, a service station operator,
Speaker 1: who said in February nineteen sixty four that police officers
Speaker 1: asked him if he had ever seen Oswald in the
Speaker 1: company of a man wearing a wig? If so, did
Speaker 1: mister will agree that such questions were asked him? Twenty
Speaker 1: did or does Dave Ferry wear a wig? And or
Speaker 1: false eyelashes or false eyebrows? Twenty one. Sam Summerlin, former
Speaker 1: Associated Press Bureau chief in New Orleans, has been quoted
Speaker 1: as saying that he got the impression in late November
Speaker 1: sixty three that New Orleans police officials were convinced that
Speaker 1: mister Ferry was involved in some manner in the Kennedy assassination,
Speaker 1: and that a biographical sketch was made available for use
Speaker 1: of it for use if and when mister Ferry was
Speaker 1: so charged? Is this true? If so, please explain why
Speaker 1: the investigating officers believed this. Twenty two Marina Oswald testified
Speaker 1: before the President's Commissioned to investigate the assassination of President
Speaker 1: Kennedy that when she and Oswald lived on Magazine Street
Speaker 1: in the summer in nineteen sixty three, that Oswald would
Speaker 1: sit up on the porch and aim his rifle. Does
Speaker 1: the apartment house next door look out onto this screen porch?
Speaker 1: He didn't own a rifle. She's a fucking liar. God
Speaker 1: it's so obvious. Once you see it, you can unsee it.
Speaker 1: Twenty three. Oswald always seemed to have more money than
Speaker 1: his job would have provided. Did New Orleans Police officials
Speaker 1: agree with this? If so, where did money come from?
Speaker 1: Twenty four? When Oswald was interviewed if he was by
Speaker 1: FBI agents after his arrest on August ninth, was Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Martello present during the interview or any other New Orleans
Speaker 1: Police officer? If so, what was the substance or what
Speaker 1: was said? Who was the FBI agent? If no New
Speaker 1: Orleans Police officer was present, did Oswald request that the
Speaker 1: interview be in private? Twenty five? Which New Orleans Police
Speaker 1: officers participated in the investigation of David Ferry and which agents?
Speaker 1: Twenty six What did mister Fairies's neighbors say? Twenty seven
Speaker 1: did anyone ever report having seen Oswald at mister Ferri's home?
Speaker 1: Twenty eight. A New Orleans singer named Connie Ka has
Speaker 1: reported that she met Oswald in a coffee house in
Speaker 1: New Orleans in the summer in nineteen sixty three, and
Speaker 1: that Oswald protested anti castro material and she was using
Speaker 1: in an act at Pat O'Brien's club Do you have
Speaker 1: reason to believe this or doubt it? Kerrie Thorny worked
Speaker 1: at a coffee house in New Orleans. Twenty nine. Was
Speaker 1: Oswald a frequenter of the Havana Bar in New Orleans?
Speaker 1: Thirty The woman who manages the apartments on Magazine Street
Speaker 1: where Oswald lived in the summer of sixty three, reported
Speaker 1: that after Oswald had left on September twenty fifth, she
Speaker 1: found a case of empty beer bottles. Who drank the beer?
Speaker 1: I bet Jina? Who drank the beer? Thirty one Do
Speaker 1: officials of the New Orleans the Police Department have reason
Speaker 1: to believe or suspect that Oswald was not alone in
Speaker 1: the plot to kill the president? If so, please explain?
Speaker 1: And thirty two the last one. Were there any indications
Speaker 1: that the FBI held back any information which it gathered
Speaker 1: during the course of the Kennedy investigation? If so, please explain, respectfully.
Speaker 1: Martin Waldron, New York Times. All right, Moving on to
Speaker 1: the next one. District Attorney Parish of Orland, State, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: This is a Jim Garrison document December twenty eighth, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two. Gambrell, Harlan Russell moy and richardson care of
Speaker 1: Eastern Airlines. Sounds like lawyers. Attention, mister William G. Bell, Junior,
Speaker 1: ree David Ferry. Gentlemen. This is to inform you that
Speaker 1: the prosecuting witness in the case of the intimidation against
Speaker 1: David Ferry have requested the State dismissed the charges. They
Speaker 1: have further produced signed aff of David's to the effect
Speaker 1: that they do not wish to prosecute, that they would
Speaker 1: not testify, and that they would like the charges to missed.
Speaker 1: I have spoken to Jim Garrison, District Attorney, at considerable
Speaker 1: length concerning these matters, and we both are of the
Speaker 1: opinion that the case against Ferry would be impossible to
Speaker 1: prosecute without the full cooperation of the complaining witnesses, even
Speaker 1: if they were forced to testify. It is for these
Speaker 1: reasons that I inform you that both charged against Ferry
Speaker 1: will be dismissed. If I can be of any further
Speaker 1: assistance to you in this matter, please do not hesitate
Speaker 1: to call upon me. Signed Rudolph F. Becker, the third
Speaker 1: Assistant District Attorney. You don't hear that name very often,
Speaker 1: all right? This appears to be a letter from Eric Krusche,
Speaker 1: Columbus Street in New Orleans, January fifteenth, sixty three to
Speaker 1: Malcolm McIntyre, President Eastern Airlines Incorporated, New York City. Dear Sir,
Speaker 1: I'm Eric Krushe. I was supposed to have been the
Speaker 1: state witnessing criminal charges in Louisiana against your Captain David Ferry.
Speaker 1: I'm writing this letter for three reasons. I want to
Speaker 1: exonerate Captain Fairy. Also, I want to complain about the
Speaker 1: way Eastern Airlines is treating him and the way I've
Speaker 1: been treated. I tried to exonerate him before to your
Speaker 1: Captain Griner, but he would not give me the chance.
Speaker 1: So I'm writing to you since you are the president
Speaker 1: of the company. Here's what happened. There's a certain woman
Speaker 1: here in New Orleans who has relatives who are big politicians.
Speaker 1: This woman's a real one. Believing me, believe me. I'm
Speaker 1: no doctor, but I'm sure something is not right with her.
Speaker 1: She has been after Captain Ferry for a long time.
Speaker 1: She's cooked up more stories and lies than I can count.
Speaker 1: Of course, he is not the only one. She has
Speaker 1: some more on her lists. We talked about this woman
Speaker 1: in the previous episode. I can't recall her name off hand.
Speaker 1: She has some more onner lists that she gives it to,
Speaker 1: and I am one of them. What she has got
Speaker 1: against me or Captain Fairy I cannot figure out. She
Speaker 1: has a funny pattern. This month it is one person
Speaker 1: she doesn't like, and next month with somebody else. She
Speaker 1: figures she is the hand of God or something and
Speaker 1: runs around judging people and then goes after them. Brought
Speaker 1: this mess on me. Her own family has trouble with her.
Speaker 1: One of her sons ran away from home. Gives this
Speaker 1: is some fucking bullshit character assassination stuff. This embarrassed her.
Speaker 1: She had to blame somebody. It was Captain Fairy's turn.
Speaker 1: She even called Eastern and told him this It was
Speaker 1: just not so. But how do you stop a lie
Speaker 1: when it is repeated often enough and loud enough. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: after a few days it became apparent that she was
Speaker 1: wrong and capt'n Faery knew nothing about her son running away.
Speaker 1: Talking about the charmy case, Captain Fairy threatened to Sewer
Speaker 1: for what she was saying that that was his mistake.
Speaker 1: See in one of these statements, I hope I have
Speaker 1: it coming up. Cruchet talks about how he was stayed
Speaker 1: the night at David Fairies, and he gets woken up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and David Fairy is
Speaker 1: naked on top of him and like jerking both of
Speaker 1: them off at the same time, and so all this
Speaker 1: about David Fairy's bullshit. He's a total scumbag pedophile. The
Speaker 1: next thing I know, I'm dragged into it. I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised because I know she has been what she's been
Speaker 1: saying about me for so long. Some cops picked me
Speaker 1: up and roused me a while. They gave me a
Speaker 1: paper to sign. I signed it. I should not have,
Speaker 1: but I did. I was so scared I would have
Speaker 1: signed anything just to get out. I was sixteen going
Speaker 1: on seventeen. I did not know what I had signed,
Speaker 1: so I was shook when I found out a few
Speaker 1: days later that I was supposed to be state witness
Speaker 1: against Captain Ferry and criminal charges. Then I was in
Speaker 1: contact with Captain Ferry and had arrangements to get papers
Speaker 1: from his lawyers withdrawing the charges. In a moment of courage,
Speaker 1: I signed these. Then I called the cops and told
Speaker 1: them what I did and why. For this, they charged
Speaker 1: Captain Ferry with intimidating witnesses. Another thing. They picked up
Speaker 1: some kid first. They called them dumas, whose name is McLendon.
Speaker 1: My father and I talked to them a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: They claimed they knew nothing about the case. The cops
Speaker 1: were trying to make this kid to be a witness
Speaker 1: against Captain Ferry too. This is how it went. This woman,
Speaker 1: like I said, has big political connections. When I signed
Speaker 1: these withdrawal, I was roused again myself. Then I got
Speaker 1: real scared. I had nowhere to turn. I was scared
Speaker 1: of this woman, of the cops, and whether Captain Fairy
Speaker 1: would assume me for false charges or what. So I
Speaker 1: did the only thing left and took off for the service.
Speaker 1: The Service taught me my rights and what to be
Speaker 1: afraid of and what not. When I came home a
Speaker 1: couple months ago, I knew my rights. With my father
Speaker 1: and my lawyer, I went to the district attorney and
Speaker 1: explained the whole situation. They had no other choice but
Speaker 1: to drop the charges. I want to make one thing clear.
Speaker 1: All these charges are false. It just did not happen.
Speaker 1: I'm completely exonerating Captain Ferry. I went to your Captain
Speaker 1: Griner in New Orleans, and I telephoned your Miami lawyer,
Speaker 1: Bill Bell. With each one, I tried to tell my story,
Speaker 1: and I know I got the brush off. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: they let me tell my story? They stopped me. Then
Speaker 1: I got to hear some mighty interesting things. It seems
Speaker 1: that Eastern is trying to collect only the dirt and
Speaker 1: forget the good. What they have somebody wants to twist
Speaker 1: in just one certain way. It all builds up to
Speaker 1: one thing, and that is that it looks like Eastern
Speaker 1: has joined this woman to blacken Captain Ferry. I also
Speaker 1: found out that either Bill Bell or George Griner tried
Speaker 1: to fire Fairy when these charges were first made. Does
Speaker 1: this mean that just to have somebody accuse you of
Speaker 1: something is grounds for dismissal on Eastern? If it does,
Speaker 1: Eastern is in bad shape, and so is the country.
Speaker 1: I mean to get my say in this matter. If
Speaker 1: I don't get it into you, I will have to
Speaker 1: find another way. I'm anxious to get in now because
Speaker 1: there's a company called Southern Research, some kind of private
Speaker 1: detectives that are going around and admit they are just
Speaker 1: trying to get the Captain. They claim they are employees
Speaker 1: of Eastern Airlines. Here is the other side of Captain Ferry.
Speaker 1: You ought to know. First, he's a loyal American and Christian.
Speaker 1: In the CAAP and other activities, He's done his best
Speaker 1: to help wandering kids. He helps him get on the
Speaker 1: straight road. He encourages education and religion. He is one
Speaker 1: of the few adults who do this. The rest just
Speaker 1: talk about their civic duties to the young and never
Speaker 1: do anything about it. Second, he is aviation minded. He
Speaker 1: encourages kids to aviation and the space age. He was
Speaker 1: talking about rockets a long time ago when few fellow
Speaker 1: pilots laughed at him for it. Some of your pilots
Speaker 1: today he trained. Third, he's a good pilot. I've been
Speaker 1: talking out at New Orleans Airport. I find he has
Speaker 1: the best reputation of the Gulf Coast. On the Gulf
Speaker 1: Coast and as an instrument pilot, and everybody agrees that
Speaker 1: they would want him before anybody else at the controls. Fourth,
Speaker 1: he's safety minded. Everybody knows how. He trained his own
Speaker 1: copilots and stewardesses in safety and emergency measures and on
Speaker 1: his own time. Five he has a company minded because
Speaker 1: he's always running around giving public talks for Eastern and
Speaker 1: on his own time and money. Six, when everybody was
Speaker 1: too chicken to move, he got food, clothing, medicine and
Speaker 1: housing for the Cuban refugees. Yet some loyal patriots on
Speaker 1: Eastern Airlines criticized it. Seven. He never disgraced your company.
Speaker 1: He did not get fined and have his name in
Speaker 1: the paper for jeopardizing your flights. I read in the
Speaker 1: paper or thirteen of your captains got fined for having
Speaker 1: the stewardess on their lap in flight with passengers aboard.
Speaker 1: So he's spreading in propaganda to the kids they are
Speaker 1: still flying. Do you think that Captain Fairy should be
Speaker 1: two or don't you think that Captain Fairy should be too.
Speaker 1: It is a funny thing how when a man is down,
Speaker 1: everybody gangs up on him. If they are jealous of him,
Speaker 1: they do the same thing too. So I have been
Speaker 1: doing my best to undo the wrongs done of him,
Speaker 1: which I am a part. I thought Eastern would be
Speaker 1: interested in the same thing if they were a Christian
Speaker 1: and American. So far it seems the other way around.
Speaker 1: I have been going around to some businessmen I know
Speaker 1: through the Kawanas Club, I have been telling my story
Speaker 1: to get this man's name cleared. I understand that these
Speaker 1: are customers who pay your salary. One thing I can say,
Speaker 1: they showed a good attitude. They cannot believe that Eastern
Speaker 1: would hold him out of service. Once this story was told,
Speaker 1: this affair has made me very angry with Eastern Airlines.
Speaker 1: I figured that a man in your position would want
Speaker 1: this to go on. I preferred to think that this
Speaker 1: was just the conduct of a couple of minor officials
Speaker 1: and did not represent the policy at the whole company.
Speaker 1: The future will tell there are many people here who
Speaker 1: want to come forward and write letters of protest. They
Speaker 1: have been stopped because someone told them that if they didn't,
Speaker 1: it would look rigged up. Do you want to hear
Speaker 1: from them? I hope you do. There is one other thing.
Speaker 1: My name has been linked up to this. We cannot
Speaker 1: afford a lawyer to go after the woman who started
Speaker 1: all this. Her day will come. However, the other day
Speaker 1: I found that if Captain Ferry does not get back
Speaker 1: to flying status, my name will suffer too. I don't
Speaker 1: think Eastern is interested in this responsibility to so I
Speaker 1: hope that you will do the right thing and the
Speaker 1: American thing and put Captain Ferry back on flying. I
Speaker 1: would like to know what you're going to do yours truly,
Speaker 1: Eric m Cruche. Interesting change of events with mister Cruche. Right,
Speaker 1: so he reports all the stuff in the molestation and
Speaker 1: the intimidation, all the police is all these cases. He
Speaker 1: gets intimidated, he signs Ferries form. Then he signs a
Speaker 1: form rejecting his original statements. Right, So he must just
Speaker 1: be scared. Doesn't want anything to do with it, you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be in the Marines and have
Speaker 1: it dragged into any kind of public record that he
Speaker 1: testified that he got molested. Right. I mean, it's very
Speaker 1: common for guys who get abused like that to not
Speaker 1: want to testify. So next document, the United States of America,
Speaker 1: Department of State, to whom these presence shall come greeting,
Speaker 1: certify that the documents here unto annex are true copies
Speaker 1: something passport file and the Department of State, in the
Speaker 1: case of David William Ferry as follows application upon which
Speaker 1: passport number B zero eight five eight six zero New
Speaker 1: Orleans series was issued. So we've got a passport application here,
Speaker 1: application on which passport number five three zero nine to
Speaker 1: six zero New Orleans series was issued. I can skip
Speaker 1: over the rest of that stuff. The next page is
Speaker 1: completely that page is completely illegible. It's just a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of dots. You can see maybe a couple of signatures,
Speaker 1: the name Ferry on the right. We have his picture here,
Speaker 1: but it's not It's like a photocopy of a photocopy
Speaker 1: one hundred times over. The whole next couple pages are
Speaker 1: like that, just basically blurs. I don't even think AI
Speaker 1: can fix this. Then we have a clipping from a
Speaker 1: newspaper article. All right, So then we have okay, so
Speaker 1: this is a really long article coming up here? Which
Speaker 1: one is this? This is the article by William Turner.
Speaker 1: And I do want to read this because I've skipped
Speaker 1: over this many times, and this will be basically a
Speaker 1: summation of David Ferry's involvement in the case. But it's
Speaker 1: pretty goddamn lengthy. Let me see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty fucking long. So we're gonna call
Speaker 1: it here for today and I will pick it up
Speaker 1: with the inquest when we Continue which will be on Monday.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody,