WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.120 Good evening everybody. Kind of a late show for me today. 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:05.839 I usually knocked these out in the morning, but it's 3 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:11.480 about seven o'clock at night on the nineteenth. Merry Christmas 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:19.480 to all of you out there. Hopefully everyone celebrates the Christmas. 5 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:25.320 It's the one time a year I really appreciate all 6 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.000 the things you're supposed to appreciate on Christmas, right, So 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:34.799 Merry Christmas to everybody. I hope everybody had a good year. Today. 8 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:39.399 We're going to continue on with the David Faery file. 9 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:43.960 It's notated in the file that this is this we've 10 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.640 gotten to the second part or the second file actually 11 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:53.479 is hots dictated, but really it's all just lumped together, 12 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.960 broken into a couple segments. We're on the David Ferry 13 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.039 file too, and we're going to cover the Eastern Airlines 14 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.399 evidence for court case. That's the document we're on now. 15 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.359 Some of it's kind of hard to read, so I 16 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:10.480 might have to I might stumble through it. So let 17 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:15.799 me just tell a side story here. This this documentar 18 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.640 on right now is basically the gathering of evidence of 19 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:24.799 Eastern airlines in the case against David Ferry, and so 20 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:26.920 I took this page which is kind of hard to read, 21 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.159 and I just put it into Grock, you know, AI, 22 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.519 which I'm not really the biggest fan. I'm the biggest 23 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.599 fan in some ways and not in others, and mostly 24 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.280 I give it a fail. But I put it into 25 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:46.680 GROC and I said, please clarify the text in this 26 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:51.319 document and then display the correct the correct text here. 27 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.519 So it starts to think. It thinks for about a 28 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.519 couple of minutes, and as it's thinking, it's it's I see. 29 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.480 I screenshotted this too because I thought it was odd. 30 00:01:58.519 --> 00:01:59.959 All I wanted to do is look at the text 31 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.640 and take the text and tell me what the text says. 32 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:10.240 But it launched a prompt and started to look for context, 33 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.240 and so it started to like it started to google 34 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.639 the shit, or however it does it looking at various websites, 35 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.439 and it determined that the text itself was wrong. Right, 36 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:25.439 the text itself talks about David Faery very clearly. It's 37 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.800 all about David Fery. But what GROC did was groc 38 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.280 it looked for context in the document and so it 39 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.039 ended up finding all the Perry Russo stuff and all 40 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.080 kinds of other stuff about Clay Shaw and the whole 41 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.319 nine yards, and it started talking to Kennedy conspiracy stuff. 42 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:46.759 And then it went in and it thought it corrected 43 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.840 the context of the document. That all I wanted to 44 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.960 do is pull the text and display the text. It 45 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.479 replaced David Ferry's name with Perry Russo and changed the 46 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.400 entire context of the document. So AI Wance again is 47 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:04.080 a complete fucking fail in regards to it just performing 48 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:06.240 a simple task. I wanted to just read the text 49 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.479 and tell me what the text said, that's it. But 50 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:11.400 that's not what it did. It overthought the whole thing. 51 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:21.800 So that's my side story on YAI still sucks. Okay, 52 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:28.919 So this document here is very difficult to read. Half 53 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.240 of it's kind of just missing, so I'm gonna definitely 54 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.919 stumble through it. At the top, it says JS Martin 55 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.360 Publications as if it's like a header, and it's got 56 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.840 his address and all that stuff there. So I'm assuming 57 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:46.400 this is a letter from Jack Martin. Yes it is, Okay, 58 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:52.960 it says thirty first day of May nineteen sixty three. 59 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.800 It looks like yeah, because this is all in regards 60 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:02.240 to Eastern airlines, so it's pre assassination to mister William 61 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:09.199 Bell General Council Eastern Airlines. Blah blah blah. I'm gonna 62 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.960 skip over that because I can't read. It says reference 63 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.920 to David W. Fairry case. Dear mister Bell, last year, 64 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:29.800 you're representative or investigators something our company to review the 65 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:38.759 David W. Ferry case. Come by and interview. I think 66 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:43.560 it says interview something me about me, something about me, 67 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.079 interview about me? Maybe. I think these people said they 68 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:55.160 were from the Southern Southern Something bureau owned by former 69 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:00.600 FBI agents in Shreveport, Louisiana, a mister Henry Roberts. The 70 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:06.680 investigator's name was Joseph Oster. At the time I cooperated. 71 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.720 Isn't Joseph Oster? Isn't it a name associated with the 72 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.439 Warren Commission at the time. I cooperated with these people 73 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:18.680 and turned over to them various letters and documents to 74 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.680 be used in evidence against this David W. Ferry person, 75 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:26.560 a former captain of your airline company. These proved that 76 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:31.639 one Ferry purchased his phony PhD Degree, two, that he 77 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.399 had made application to a religious order as a priest 78 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.160 up in New York before the first of the year 79 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:42.000 in nineteen sixty two three, that after being turned down 80 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:47.120 by the above organization. He made an additional application with 81 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.680 another since the first of the year in nineteen sixty three. 82 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:59.519 Four that he Fairy had been turned down by them, 83 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:06.600 and why his character at and can't read that. Five 84 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.120 that Fairy is currently employed as an investigator and law 85 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.519 clerk by an attorney here in New Orleans for fifty 86 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:25.120 dollars per week. And where those something something be? I 87 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.680 can't read that either. And it says payroll records and 88 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:32.160 testimony and where those records something be? Oh, where those 89 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.600 records are and where those records are stored? Payroll records 90 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:42.319 and testimony. Six How Faery something his case over in 91 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:47.600 lost his case over in Jefferson Parish in his criminal 92 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:58.680 case that is, by false testimony something something I can't 93 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:03.319 read that given by an employee at your company, And 94 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:10.839 how this evidence could be secured? Also something what it was, 95 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:17.959 et cetera. You could have something your You could have 96 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.279 something for your and never find it unless you know 97 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.480 just what it is you're looking for. I also got 98 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:31.560 something stem stemonict stead amonic something I can't read that 99 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.399 about Fairy's conduct or I got a statement about Faery's 100 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.600 conduct his I can't read definitely read can't read that 101 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:44.279 something his something, and how he brought about the death 102 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:49.959 to all something of his. I can't read that either 103 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:58.240 by his tantrum and Thom's Thompson Thompson fits is what 104 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:05.560 it looks like. And I basically can't even read that 105 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.319 that last paragraph except for it says something life in 106 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:20.480 his hands needs a psychiatrist, signed Jack Martin. Interesting, huh, 107 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:23.040 Jack Martin and Dave Ferry didn't get along at all, 108 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.839 not one bit. That's why, you know, when Jack Martin 109 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:30.759 called the FBI November twenty second and recalled on David 110 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.639 Ferry said he was in Dallas and Fort Worth two 111 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.960 days before the assassination. You can guarantee that that was 112 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:42.360 absolutely true. And when he recanted that statement, he did 113 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:45.399 so because he just had to play ball like everyone else, 114 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:55.519 you know. Next letter in here is a memo District Attorney, 115 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:01.080 Parish of Orlands, State of Louisiana, twenty seven hundred Tulane Avenue, 116 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:12.960 New Orleans, nineteen sixty two. We might have already covered 117 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:15.480 this one because the handwritten notes on the side look 118 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.360 kind of familiar. So we'll see dated November seven, sixty two, 119 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.840 mister William Bell Legal Department, Eastern Airlines reference David Ferry. 120 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.840 Dear mister Bell, this is from Jim Garrison in response 121 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.960 to your request No. Number seven sixty two. I've ascertained 122 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:32.120 the status of the case penning against David Ferry. Yet 123 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:33.919 we already covered this document, so I'll go ahead and 124 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:45.360 skip it. Okay, So this next one references Bishop Hyde. 125 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.080 I have become convinced Hyde was a partner in crime 126 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.799 at David Ferry for his child trafficking through the Civil 127 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:56.120 Air Patrol. This looks like a letter, doesn't look like 128 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.960 an official document. Reference to David W. Ferry aka doctor 129 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:07.519 David Francescas Ferry fr an ce Scus Ferry, doctor David 130 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:11.759 Francescas Ferry July thirtieth, thirtieth, thirty first and August second, 131 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.639 nineteen sixty three. Bishop George A. Hyde was located at 132 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.799 sixteen fifty seven Park Road, Northwest Washington, d C. Where 133 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.960 he advised he has lived for the past three or 134 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.799 four months. He stated there is no parish of the 135 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.840 Orthodox Catholic Church in the District of Columbia, and that 136 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:32.159 he serves the Washington, Southern Maryland, and Northern Virginia area. 137 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:36.000 He advised his present address serves as study house and 138 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:39.759 a place of abode for his postulates and no novitiates. 139 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.960 He presently has three young men at his address you 140 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.200 don't say, expects one more on August third, sixty three, 141 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.840 another on August fifteenth, sixty three, and a total of 142 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.759 six or seven for the nineteen sixty three fall term. 143 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.679 Each person holds an outside job and turns all of 144 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.080 his money over to a common fund to run the house. 145 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.840 Religious studies are usually conducted in the evening, and he 146 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.279 has one member he hopes to enroll in the American 147 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.759 University for the nineteen sixty three fall term. Bishop Hide 148 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.720 admits he had not registered in the district of Columbia 149 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.679 and he's not legally empowered to perform marriages, but stated 150 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.279 that he does not consider it to be necessary inasmuch 151 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.080 as he does not have a parish. When queried as 152 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:25.360 to conducting funerals, he stated he has conducted funerals in 153 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.600 some marriages in the New York state area. However, when 154 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:30.720 asked as to the last funeral he conducted, he was 155 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.519 very evasive as to where and when, and finally said 156 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.639 he had conducted a funeral for one of his members 157 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.480 who in his study who had died in mid July. 158 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.639 When queried as to where this funeral and internment took place, 159 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.759 he stated he did not desire nor would he furnish 160 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:48.519 any information concerning the operation of his community. He did 161 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.679 say the one who was buried was Brother Luke. Bishop 162 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.559 Hid advised he has never met David Ferry in person. 163 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.480 His first contact with Ferry occurred within the past two years, 164 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.600 probably about one and a half years ago. On this occasion, 165 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.000 Fairy was in New Orleans and had been requested to 166 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:08.679 conduct a bishop contact the bishop by a person who 167 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.159 was very ill in the hospital. Hyde was not sure 168 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:14.440 if this contact was by telephone or by letter. He 169 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.120 stated following his initial contact, he has had frequent correspondence 170 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:21.360 with Ferry, both by mail and telephone. Approximately six months ago, 171 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.399 after considerable discussion along religious lines, Ferry asked the bishop 172 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:27.960 to ordain him. Hide claims he told Ferry that since 173 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:29.519 he had not met him in person, he'd not been 174 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.240 able to study him at first hand, he could not 175 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:38.200 in full justice acquiesce to this request. Hyde states that 176 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.919 he told Faerry that if he would come to Washington 177 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.759 and enter the study first for six months as a postulant, 178 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.320 then for a year as a novitiate, he would consider 179 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.639 ordaining him. Hide advised that Faerry could not accede to 180 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.360 the requirements for his financial situation would not allow it. 181 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:59.600 Their correspondence telephonically and by letter continued. Faerry, in early 182 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.360 summer sixty three again made his request to be ordained. 183 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.440 Hyde stated he told Ferry to send him a list 184 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.360 of his educational attainments and he would forward them to 185 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:13.879 the archbishop at Kanka Key, Illinois, and let the activity 186 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.960 continue from there. When queried as to the form in 187 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.320 which the attainments were received, i e. Transcripts or resumes, 188 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:25.399 Hyde was evasive. At this point. He apparently, in the 189 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.960 moment of laxity, called the subject doctor Ferry. When asked 190 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.240 to the basis of the doctorate in what field, Hyde 191 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.240 stated he was not sure of the basis, but believed 192 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.759 that maybe an honorary degree. He finally admitted that most 193 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.639 likely he had received a resume from David Ferry and 194 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:44.639 no transcripts. Hyde states he made a cursory perusal of 195 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:49.360 these items and forwarded them to Bishop Marchena in Kanka Key, Illinois. 196 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.519 Bishop Marchena, that's another guy. I need to look into. 197 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.639 At some point. Hyde claims that Bishop Marchena visited him 198 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.600 at Washington d C. In the early part of July 199 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.399 sixty three, and that time Hide endeavored to convince Marchena 200 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.080 it was in the good interest of the church that 201 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.480 he felt before anyone was ordained into the church, they 202 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.240 should be given an examination into the canon law of 203 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.480 the church by all of the bishops in the church, 204 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:18.159 since one bishop might ordain a person not really suitable 205 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.960 to cloth and would thus become a misfit and a 206 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.960 detriment to the church if they were to go to 207 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.159 some other area. Let me pause just for a second 208 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:28.519 right here, because I need to point out for a 209 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.840 second that the relationship between Hyde and Fairy was much 210 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:40.240 more important than Hide is letting onto here. When David 211 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:43.840 Faery died, he only asked that two people be notified, 212 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.159 and one of those people was this Reverend Hide. That 213 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.320 means that he held a very high position of importance to 214 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:57.799 David Faerry. To me, the idea that he never met 215 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:06.200 Hide is suspect at best. Hyde stated that he told 216 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.440 Ferry that he felt that this would be to Faerry's 217 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.759 best interest in the case of his requesting to be ordained. 218 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:16.679 Hyde claims Marchena seemed to be seemed to begin to 219 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.000 accept the idea. Hyde stated he is aware that Ferry 220 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.080 was not ordained at July nineteenth, nineteen sixty three, and 221 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:28.240 that he advised Ferry not to go to Kankakee at 222 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.679 this point. In order to more properly evaluate the comments 223 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.440 of Hyde, it is necessary to set out information obtained 224 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.679 from Hyde concerning when Jack Martin. During the course of 225 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.519 the interview with Hide, he was asked how the name 226 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:42.200 of Jack Martin was associated with he and Ferry. Hyde 227 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.720 stated he believed that he had first come into contact 228 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.440 with Jack Martin some years ago in New York City 229 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.679 not named. He describes Martin as an outright rounder, living 230 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.559 by fraud, blackmail, and other devious means. Martin learned that 231 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.080 Hyde needed a seal and provided him with one. Later, 232 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.480 he gave a painting as a gift. For these favors. 233 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.159 Martin requested Hide to ordain him as a priest, which 234 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.840 Hyde refused. Martin became associated with a branch of the 235 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.360 church at Louisville, Kentucky, considered France considered frauds by Hyde, 236 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:18.559 and the latter became manner unknown associated with Faery. There 237 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.919 is some indication Fairy also spent some time in Louisville. 238 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.279 Ferry began to question the church authority of Martin, and 239 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.159 Martin then advised the head of the church at Louisville. Supposedly, 240 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:34.600 Faerry was read out of the church and vicious comments 241 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.120 made about him which are attributable to Martin. Hyde claims 242 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.240 that Martin has made allegations as to homosexuality concerning various 243 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.000 officials of the church, including himself. Martin reportedly has written 244 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.919 letters to various persons alleging misdeeds of hide, including the 245 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.799 molesting of children, claiming as proof because of publicity in 246 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.480 Washington newspapers, Hyde states that Martin is the kind of 247 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.840 person who will write to persons like Richard Cardinal Cushing 248 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.839 praising him for some public stand he has taken. Hyde 249 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.599 stated that Cushing, being the high type of individual he is, 250 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.119 will answer with a letter acknowledging the comment, and that 251 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.440 Martin will then use the letter to indicate he's a 252 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.960 friend of Cardinal Cushing. In this way, he obtains entry 253 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.240 into groups that he would not otherwise have access to. 254 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:21.279 Hyde has advised that he has made a notification to 255 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.960 the Post Office Department concerning the activities of Martin, and 256 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.880 has received a letter of acknowledgment from a Postal inspector 257 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.119 advising that he has opened a case onto the matter. 258 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:36.279 Hyde further advised he is making a compilation of the 259 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.000 allegations and activities of Martin with the view in mind 260 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:44.519 of prosecuting him. During the interview, Hyde was asked to 261 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.799 reflect further on the circumstances under which he first came 262 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:52.640 into contact with Ferry. After some reflection, Hyde rather hesitantly 263 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.640 stated it could be Jack Martin, though being overwrought, has 264 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.279 suffered a coronary attack and was hospitalized in New Orleans. 265 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.400 At this point, Hyde commented that Martin needed more than 266 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.400 a regular MD to look after him. He needed someone 267 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.799 who had gone further in the medical profession. When pinned 268 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.880 down on this comment, Hyde stated he believed Martin needed 269 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.839 psychiatric treatment. When questioned as to his reason for making 270 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.880 such a comment, Hyde stated he understood Martin had been 271 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.839 confined to the psychiatric wards of Charity Hospital in New 272 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.160 Orleans and at Los Angeles, California. In New Orleans, he 273 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:30.400 was said to have undergone shock treatment. Hyde stated that 274 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.839 about the time Ferry was to be in Kanka Key 275 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.240 to take his canon law examination from the bishops. Ferry 276 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.559 was required to be in Miami, Florida on a business 277 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:44.079 matter nature not disclosed. Hyde stated he learned Jack Martin 278 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.880 was in Kanka Key for the bishop's meeting at which 279 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.640 Ferry was to be examined. In contact with Ferry in Miami, 280 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.559 he advised Faerry that he should not go to Kanka 281 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.160 Key as Martin was there and would make a lot 282 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.839 of trouble. Eventually, reflecting on the Church no matter how 283 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.240 long true, Hyde stated he is the only bishop that 284 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.200 did not attend this conference, explaining that urgent matters at 285 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.160 the study, outside activity, lack of money, and the like 286 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.839 convinced him that he should not attend this conference. He 287 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.480 did not mention the funeral at this time. Hyde stated 288 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.279 he has had Ferry do some research and made rough 289 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.200 drafts of legislation to be enacted by the Church concerning 290 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.839 the proposed plan to have all bishops rule on the 291 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:30.640 eligibility of a candidate for ordination. Hyde claims he has 292 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.720 learned that Martin has since spread the false information that 293 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.759 Faerry flew from Miami to Washington, picked up Hyde, and 294 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:40.039 the two flew together to Kankakee. Hyde also claims that 295 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.880 a number of bishops are jealous of the Archbishop Marchena 296 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.119 and are making all kinds of plans to have him 297 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:53.960 ejected from his position. Hyde refused to give a signed 298 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.319 statement on the grounds that he did not know who 299 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:01.400 would have access to the statement and that many of 300 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.720 the other bishops would delight in getting information as to 301 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.680 his operations. Hyde stated he has built a wall around 302 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.160 his community and that only he has the key. He 303 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.519 did state that if he could be sure Marceno was 304 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.440 to be the only person to see the report, he 305 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.920 would give a signed statement. When queried as to whether 306 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.799 he would agree to the investigators understanding of his comments, 307 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.599 which we which were reiterated to him and reviewed on 308 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.880 pertinent points, he agreed that the investigators appeared to have 309 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.359 grasped what he wanted to say about the matter. The 310 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:39.319 following information was developed concerning George A. Hyde. Inquiry requests 311 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.079 for information reveals George A. Hyde is known as a bishop. 312 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.400 Attached newspaper clipping reflects that he has held himself out 313 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.599 to the DC Juvenile Court as an Orthodox Catholic friar. 314 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:52.759 The DC Credit Bureau has no record of a George Hyde. 315 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.160 From a highly confidential source, most reliable who has access 316 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.000 to the Holy Roman Catholic Church chancery records, it is 317 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.440 been learned that George A. Hyde and his activities have 318 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:05.079 come to their attention, but has no official connection with 319 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:12.200 that church. Aha, and the letter or whatever this is 320 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.559 cuts off here at this point, probably because it starts 321 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:16.599 to get good and that's where it was censored by 322 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:25.480 those who censor reports on And so just from the contexts, 323 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.799 it would appear that this letter continues on with more detail, 324 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.319 but it just kind of ends there, and so we 325 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:36.680 pick up the next document in this Eastern Airlines case file. 326 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:42.079 Mister Malcolm McIntyre, President Eastern Airlines, Inc. New York, New York. 327 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.799 Dear Sir, the writer has been a private investigator for 328 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:47.640 a number of years, and during that time has been 329 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:52.079 acquainted with many investigative agencies their personnel, technique, integrity or 330 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:54.880 lack of it. His experience with Eastern Airlines is not 331 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:58.279 so extensive. A recent experience is causing him concern and anger. 332 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:01.640 I was recently contacted by an individual who represented himself 333 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.240 to be an employee of Southern Research and an employee 334 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:09.799 of Eastern Airlines. The contact was relative to an investigation 335 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.640 of one Captain David W. Ferry. I've known Captain Ferry 336 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.519 for some time and used his services in solving a 337 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.279 thorny case in which the federal government was interested. Thus, 338 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.559 I can vouch for the man in his integrity. The 339 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.119 individual who contacted me used threats and intimidation, all in 340 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.799 violation of Louisiana statutes to get me to cooperate in 341 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:34.359 framing Captain Ferry. When I would not yield, blandishments were 342 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:38.319 offered in the form of a bribe to assisting in 343 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.960 hanging this man. This strikes me as detestable. When I 344 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:46.920 would not cooperate with these people, I was subjected to harassment, 345 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:51.960 my house placed under surveillance, neighbors contacted, and in general 346 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.480 my peace and quiet disturbed. This is the way Eastern Airline? 347 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.279 Is this the way Eastern Airlines operates? Is it part 348 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.240 of your policy to harass the general publics so that 349 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.319 something can be framed against one of your own employees. 350 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:06.880 I hardly think that a man of your integrity and 351 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.160 position would tolerate such conduct. I read the newspapers there 352 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.599 were where thirteen of your captain exposed their ships and 353 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:16.279 their passengers to unnecessary hazards by having stewardesses on their 354 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:19.240 laps while in flight. Their wrists were slapped and they 355 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:24.559 were sent back to work. Contrari Wise, this man who 356 00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.279 has worked hard and honorably for Eastern is being subjected 357 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.200 to a campaign to get him fired. Illegal and unethical 358 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.720 activities are being employed. I trust that a man in 359 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.240 your position will not permit this to continue, and that 360 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:39.519 Captain Ferry will be restored to flight status without further delay. Meanwhile, 361 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.000 I'm compelled to advise my associates and subordinates not to 362 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.160 patronize Eastern Airlines until the situation is cleared up. I 363 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.640 hope to have your early reply. Here is truly Jack Martin, 364 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:52.200 of all people. So Jack Martin goes from throwing Ferry 365 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.079 under the bus. There's no date on this thing. There's 366 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.839 an FBI stamp on it of January eighteenth, nineteen sixty three. 367 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:00.759 Could that be correct? Yeah? What were the dates of 368 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.079 the other one? The other one was what summer sixty two? 369 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.480 And he's throwing Ferry under the bus. So what's up 370 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:12.240 with that? Duplicit as bastard? Okay, this next one from 371 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:16.839 Martin Waldron New York Times Room seven twenty nine, Cronkyle Building, 372 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:22.880 Houston to Lieutenant Marvin Leonard, New Orleans Police Department. Dear 373 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.240 Lieutenant Leonard, in accordance with our conversation of today, I 374 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.119 am here with submitting the following questions. One Why did 375 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.400 the New Orleans Police Department arrest Dave Ferry on November 376 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.799 nineteen sixty three in connection with the investigation of Lee 377 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:39.359 Harvey Oswald? Two? Was there any indication that mister Ferry 378 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.000 had any connection with Oswald during nineteen sixty three or 379 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.319 during the nineteen fifties when Oswald was a student in 380 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.559 junior high school and high school in New Orleans. Three? 381 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:53.079 Why did Lieutenant Paul Dwyer and Sergeant Frederick sp O'Sullivan 382 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.359 a massad agent? Just so you know, Frederick O'Sullivan friend 383 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:01.079 of Oswald growing up, member of cap Why did Lieutenant 384 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:03.680 Paul Dwyer and Sergeant Frederick O'Sullivan have a suspicion that 385 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.200 mister Ferry may have flown Oswald to Dallas, as reported 386 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.359 by Sergeant O'Sullivan in his testimony before the President's commissioned 387 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:12.519 to investigate the assassination of President Kennedy. We wanted to 388 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.720 check it, Ferries plain, This is the quote, to see 389 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.480 if it was flyable, to see possibly whether he had 390 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.319 been flying it lately, with the thought that he may 391 00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.279 have transported Oswald to Dallas. No, he didn't transport fucking 392 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:27.480 Oswald to Dallas, Jesus Christ. Four Did the New Orleans 393 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.519 Police Department Vice squad know or have reports that mister 394 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.519 Ferry and Oswald had been associating together just prior to this? Five? 395 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.000 Where was mister Ferry on the day President Kennedy was assassinated? 396 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.920 Who he was in Dallas? Six? Does mister Ferry have 397 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.000 a police record for or is he known as a 398 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.960 sex deviate? If so, what kind? Seven? Did Lee Harvey 399 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.440 Oswald have a record of or was he purported to 400 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.079 be a sex deviate? If so, what kind? When mister 401 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.400