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Speaker 4: UH.
Speaker 2: Penn State is UH is UH very much engaged and
has been engaged in conversations with Kilane over the last
few weeks, and they have offered him a lot of
money as well as UH a lot of resources to
obtain his talents.
Speaker 4: UH.
Speaker 2: They're at Penn State and now b YU has the
opportunity and my my opinion to UH to get competitive
with it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna match what BYU or what Penn State
is offering. I don't think so, but they can get
competitive and we'll see how it plays out here. On three,
about an hour ago reported that BYU's COLLISONI has emerged
as Penn State's top target to become the Nitney Lions
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in former BYU, great super Bowl champion. We got Brady
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Speaker 3: How you living well?
Speaker 4: What's up? It's a great day to be a Cougar.
You know why one of the top ELEAD programs in
the country wants to be us. Remember that Penn State
wants to be BYU today and this week and for
the next week. That's a heck of a compliment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting commentary. Right.
Speaker 2: Even Killane stated earlier today that hey, it's a good
sign that these these teams are evaluating BYU, the creme
de la crem the cock of the walks of college football,
the resource rich, the filthy luker Leyden institutions. They're coming
and they're evaluating BYU's coaching talent and they're saying we
want you.
Speaker 3: That's a silver lining at all this.
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely. And also it goes to show you, like
how good of a coach Kilani is. It shows you
his culture. It shows you that it's taking all the country.
It's getting their attention. Now here's the big key. The
big key is this does be why you think that
they are in that same group, because it's looking like
Penn State based off of them wanting to basically, you know,
carbon copy our program by getting kilane is they think that,
But do we think that as an administration? You know,
And that's going to be how this whole thing plays out,
because I tell you what, if you let your coach
leaves and you think you're an elite program, that never happens.
I've never heard of that. I've never seen that. By
the way, if everybody's in good standing and you've got
success happening, I've never seen an elite program where the
coach leaves and goes to another lead program and kind
of makes the latter between quotations boots because if they
allow Kilanea to go, in my opinion, it just goes
to show that they don't believe that they're at the
top tier P four caliber team. And that's kind of
ironic since you know, there's a lot of rhetoric out
there complaining that we're not included into the playoff ranking
system as of yet and that we have to play
to get in. So that's gonna be ultimately the indicator
to me, if we really see ourselves in that light,
because if we do, we're gonna retain them, and it's
like we're gonna do whatever it takes to keep them,
and if not, it goes to show it's like, Okay,
I guess you just look at yourself kind of as
a second class citizen. You're gonna take a back seat
to these bigger schools, and then find that if that's
the case, then these committees and these pundits that are
constantly leaving us out, I guess they're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting commentary because b yu's on the
outside looking in. Many of the pundits, analysts, and the
committee themselves have alluded to the fact that BYU has
to beat Texas Tech in Orlington in order to get
into the College Football Playoff. They've been relegated to kind
of that second class, that second tier, not the elite
tier of college football, despite with their record strength the
schedule on strength of record is currently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's to me is like, if you want
to be the best, you got to act like the best.
You got to show that that's what you believe you are.
And so to ba's administration. If you think you're a
top tier operation, you have an elite football team, then
you will not let the guy walk. You'll figure out
a way to keep him there. And if he walks,
like I said, it just shows you know where we're at.
But there's also other things that people have to consider
when talking about the polls, you know, And this now
goes away from the whole coaching situation, and it goes
to history. The reason why we run out of this polls,
and I will say this has to do with nineteen
eighty four and things that happened after that and before that,
and it has to do with the fact that we
busted the original determiner of a national championship, because I
hope everybody knows there's never once in the history of
college football, at least Division one, top level fowl college football,
there's never been an NCAA sanction champion ever. It's always
been both systems BCS, polls, you know. And we were
the team in nineteen eighty four that destroyed their ability
to determine national champions based off of just the polls.
And then that's when they created the BCS and all
these other polls to then try to keep us out right.
And then when they were trying to do that, we
were beating number one Miami, We were beating Texas, A
and M. We went to the to the Cotton Bowl.
We had that game in Arlington, Texas, the first ever
football game in Arlington, Texas, where we walk in and
we beat Oklahoma with what talent. Evaluators in the NFL
would say that they by far were more talented than
we were, and that was kind of our reputation these
Sure we had sprinkled in really top tier talent, but
overall we did not have the same level of brought
talent as other teams that we would beat, and we
became and are the most hated team in college football.
And then, for surely there's a religious element to this too.
You can't forget that there was a pullout not too
long ago about how which religion of those that claimed
to be Christian are the most hated And guess what
Number one one is? The Church of Jesus Christ, Hilaritay Saints.
So we are fighting against history, We're fighting against how
people see us in terms of you know, how they
perceive BYU. We're fighting against a lot of stuff and
I'm gonna let everybody know that's listening. We will not
and I guarantee you we will not get voted into
the plaaffs. Do not expect it, do not count on
it not happening. Okay, too much stuff's gone on. There's
too much. Too much has happened to where it's like
they don't want us in. That's why you probably know
better than me, Ben eleven one. The resume that we have,
if you compared it with any other team in the
history of college football, is eleven to one at this
point of the season. But the resume of our strength
to schedule a different differential of wins or what have you,
we would be by far the lowest ranked ever eleven
to one team. Okay, So just I want everybody to
know the only path we have is the path that
we've always had, which is we got a bust that
door down open, and we got to go in through
only one way, and that's beating test of stack. We
gotta beat them. We don't beat them, We're not getting it.
That's just even though we're fully deserving, we're fully capable
all those kind of things, we got to beat them
because otherwise we don't get into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Wise words, I agree with you wholeheartedly, Brady Pepinka here
on ESPN The Fan.
Speaker 3: Brady, when you.
Speaker 2: Evaluate this situation with Kilani and you see Penn State
not only offering Kilani possibly an eight figure salary, but
also an unlimited amount of funds in NIL for his
roster and unlimited funds for his staff, how can B
why you compete with that? They can't match what they're
doing and Penn State's going into this knowing that, B
why you will not match that? At least according to Mysos,
I don't think they're going to be that aggressive. You know,
how competitive can they be? And what percentage drop off
is it? Like twenty percent of like the total offering
of Penn State that below that offering that could keep
Kalate and the staff from from migrating to a land unknown.
Speaker 4: In to the land that apparently not a lot of
people are looking to go to.
Speaker 2: That's not the land of milk and honey. I can
tell you that much. That is not at baby, that
is not desret.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why they're still looking for a coach,
you know. And they were actually the first coaching job
to open up during this whole cycle. So that's a
great point, and I hope people understand this. So here's
the thing. If you were if college football, and each
university was legitimately running their sports program, not just their
football program, and and you got to be mindful that
the football program makes up the majority of the revenues,
so you could even say the football program, so it's
each university within Division one, or let's just say P
fourteens were actually running their sports program in their university
as a business. I don't I don't know if any
of these teams will actually being business because they don't
make money. They don't end up with a surplus except
for one, and that is yu okay. So having said that,
you have Penn State that has these donors and has
this mentality where they're not balancing books, they're not looking
to sit into a budget. They their payoff from their
donors and their their deep pockets is we want to
just win, and we want to see our team win.
We want to have bragging rights over Ohio State and
Michigan and the Big Ten and blah blah. That's that's
their payoff. So they're going to throw money at this thing.
They're going to float their program. And if you want
and if you want more backup on that, just go
look at what the big ten commissioners trying to do.
Equity share because he needs loans, they need cash. Why
do they need cash? Got to pay players? And by
the way, they don't produce it internally, they do not
running a profitable business. U Yu, on the other hand, does.
So of course Uyu is not going to go and say, yeah,
we're going to be equally as reckless as Penn State.
They're not going to do that, which is prudent. But
there is things that BYU can do to help Klannie
feel more wanted than Penn State is making him feel now,
And that's to be the big issue, and that's going
to be ultimately that determines this is Penn State going
to make our coach who's been here for ten years,
who has had a history of big fullback, who has
been a lifetime BYU fan, who, by the way, when
he does did come here, he was learning how to
coach at BYU and he mastered it. Are we going
to treat him less like we want him than Penn
State who just needs to fill this job with a
splash Hire because right now they're all losing their minds
at Penn State. Are we gonna let them do that?
Because we don't, because again we don't have to match that.
And so what we can do is we can give
him full of time over the football operations. That's one thing. Yeah, ladies, gentlemen,
Kilanie does not have full autonomy over football operations, which crazy,
right any other university their football coach has full autonomy
over football operations. That's how it should be. Why because
you're going to let your coach determine their destiny right now. Literally,
the administration of UYU could tell Kwana, you know what
you have to do, X, Y and Z. We have
the final executive decision making ability. You do it, and
he has to do it per the contract and per
the structure of Uyu Athletics and whether it's or against
the interests of the football team. That's messed up because
if it's a bad decision by the administration, then negatively
affects the coaches and the players and they go out
and they don't live up to that, you know, the
standard of winning that we're all customer bell you, they
get fired, not the administration it's pretty messed up. You know.
It's like the choice thing. You know, somebody's making the choices,
but they don't have to deal with the consequences, you
know what I'm saying. So that would be one thing.
Let's change that to be more logical. Give Klanne. He
would be given the term of what they call an
executive of operation or for an executive of football operations,
where he gets and we're talking. He gets to choose
who to hire have in his staff in the training room,
he gets to choose anything that touches the sphere of football.
He makes the final choice, not the administration. That's the
first thing they can do. The second thing they can
do is, yeah, pay him some more money. I mean,
we got money. That's not something that short. I'm not
saying go and be reckless and be like Penn State.
But hey, we have funds. Okay, there's funds available, there's
donors that want Klowne there. We can do it. And Klannie,
I'm gonna tell you this right now. I know him personally,
and I'm not a spokesperson, but I just know him,
and then people probably would assume this about him too.
He's not in this that they be the highest picked
coach in college football. Okay, he's not in it for that,
so he's not worried about having his contract matched. But
he is somebody who understands market value. He is somebody
who understands, you know, what I want to feel wanted,
and when you get an offer from a university, like
and I felt this way when I played in the NFL.
It's like, yeah, I'm getting an off from another team,
and but you're you're you know, the Packers are saying, oh, oh yeah,
that's a good offer. We're not going to match it.
I'm going to automatically feel like, well, obviously you don't
want me as much as that other team. That's just
a fact, because if you did, you would match it,
or at least you would get close to it to
make me feel wanted. In valued according to the value
I bring and the value we bring. By the way,
ladies and gentlemen in the free market system, is only
reflective of what somebody's willing to pay us. So if
you have you know, X, Y and Z company willing
to pay you x about it dollars, that's your value
right now? Clone has Penn State were willing to pay him.
I guess the report is what eleven million year. His
market value is eleven million yere whether you want to
match it or not. And so and again, Cloonie's not
demanding they got to pay that. He's just demanding, Hey,
make me feel like you want to kind of go there,
not maybe or not to that degree, but go in
that direction and make me so wanted. And so that's
where we're at. I mean, this isn't hard. You know,
give him full autonomy, give them some more money, and
then you know what, maybe give them a longer term
on his deal. You know, it's where he feels like
he's got guarantees because this guy doesn't want to go anywhere.
I hope people understand that he does not want to go.
He's a BYU lifer and we want him as a
b you life for I do.
Speaker 1: I knew what I do.
Speaker 4: He's got a phenomenal His program that he runs is
the most high energy, enjoyable program that I've ever been around.
The players respond to it. They love showing up, they
love playing. That in and of itself is an absolute
mastery job by twany. No other coach in college football
has made and created an environment like that where players
will literally be giddy to go play football. Most organizations
are these players. They go pay. They go play because
they're getting paid, or they got to make it happen
so they can get to the pros and help their families,
not just for the pure love of the game. Kilani
has an environment where he literally has created this pure
love of just showing up, being with your brothers. They
call each other brothers for the pure love of the game.
That is unmatchable, unmatched. I don't even know as unmatchable
as it work, but it's unmatched. It's almost impossible to create.
And he's created that, and he and and I think
even for the coaches. I don't don't have to ask
my brother, but seems that you know, they enjoy it too.
It's kind of everybody. It's like, man, this is a
good place energetically, vibe wise to be and it makes
us to where we just love doing our jobs and
love playing and love coaching kids. That is invaluable, that
that environment, and that's and that's something that I don't
even know if he would be able to replicate at
Penn State with all the pressures and the powers that
be at there, so it's so it's one of those
things to where it's like if he he can, you know,
he doesn't have to get a deal match. But like
the big thing is make Kilani feel more wanted than
Penn State does. Just do that and if we do that,
we don't have to go, like I said, blow the
blow bank. We're going to be fine. If not, then
we got to rethink of who we really want to
be as as a football and as a sports program.
Speaker 2: It yeah, okay, So who makes the final call in
this right The decision on whether Bou and Sataki recion
agreement does not rest solely on the athletics department. You know,
Brian Santiago, he's the athletic director. There's no doubt he
has to approve it. But I imagine Shane Reese, Keith Voorkink,
Elder Gilbert, the Commission of the Church Educational System. They
all have to approve whatever it is that Brian, Shane
and Keith have have have evaluated and said, hey, this
is what we're proposing for Kilane to retain him as
our as our football brand, ambassador and leader of the
football program, which for many within the faith they view
it as an ambassador ambassadorial tool, even a missionary tool
for good. So this group then has to defeat it
to the Board of Trustees and they ultimately have to
prove it, prove of it right. The first Presidency of
the Church Jesus Christ letter says, the members of the
former twelve Apostles, the general authorities and church officers, they
have approve this and how do they view it?
Speaker 3: How do they view athletics in this modern era?
Speaker 4: Do you think well, I mean, based off of how
the trend has gone, it's it's a very positive. It's
really good. I mean, like, I don't know if we've
had this much publicity around the mission of the church,
around I mean what we stand for. I mean, look
at what we did with the food drive in Cincinnati.
Look at what happened in Texas Tech when there was
I believe it was the barber of the team, his
wife or he at one of the two had an
accident and we helped raise funds for that. I mean,
this is that's what it's all about. Yeah, And we
have been representing that as an organization as well as
you possibly can. And there's no way that the church
leadership would look at that and be like oh, we better,
we better get rid of this. No, they I would
imagine they want to invest more into that. How that
be something that's even more emphasized, maybe manifested, even on
a grander scale. So I don't see any problem with that.
The biggest thing is whoever's advising them, because I've imagine
there's I have to imagine probably it was when I
was there, because he got freaking scows in and he's
an idiot. Sorry scouts, and you know you're an idiot.
I know he's listening to us, but did he freaking
fires val Hell? And I'm bitter. Yeah, he screwed my
senior year over by the way. He fires val Hell
the week after we be built to day and val
Hell hired Gary Croton. He you know, Gary Croton hired Brownto,
and all those coaches were like, dude, if you tire
the the ad that basically brought us here, then we're
all probably gonna get fired. And it just screwed up
a whole year, which makes me think, like who who
allowed him to do that? You know, maybe the organization
has changed, but it makes me think that they just
let their you know, administrators do their jobs, which some
of them are idiots, and they just lack the wisdom.
You know, hopefully they're they're going more from a group think,
you know, angle to where they're got their checks and balances.
There's a little bit more wisdom and there's some understanding
there that hey, we're gonna look at this from a
MAC review and not do what Scousing did, you know,
and and others in the administration, and you know, we
all make mistakes, but we hopefully they've learned from them.
But the biggest thing is I think they're gonna lean
on the administration the gentleman you mentioned in addition to
Brian Santiago. I mean, they seem like the three guys
that are gonna get together and kind of come to
their own conclusion on what direction they're gonna go. And
and I hope, like I said, it's different than it
used to be where it's just one guy, because it's
easy if you're one person to not have all the
information and see the whole picture and make a bad choice.
I'm not saying that, you know, scouts, they shouldn't have
fired val Hill, and I'm not saying he shouldn't have
fired Croat. And eventually there have been a responsible for
what I am saying is that you shouldn't do it
at that time. But right there's timing elements and there's
nuances that a group is going to have a far
higher probability of handling better than just one person. So
having I said, having to directly answer that, I would
assume that they have in place groups that have autonomy
over certain things, and that the administration and the board
directors all the things that is going to let whoever
oversees athletics that group do their thing and do what's
prudent and wise for YU and for ultimately the church.
And like I said, the right choice there, if they
are being wise and prudent, is they're gonna keep client.
They're going to figure out a way to keep them.
If not, then and like I said, I think they're
being extremely unwise and and it just doesn't doesn't add up,
doesn't make sense for where we've gone and where we're
at right now. We're on the brink is really breaking
into a new excellon of of college football, of being
considered amongst like not just those that are you know,
coming in at a disadvantage and beating these superior teams.
We're going to be looked at now is like, hey,
you're part of us. You're part of this top tiered
group of college football programs. We're on the burge. You're
doing that, you know, And a part of that process,
we've got to beat Texas Tech, ye know. And the way,
the best way we're gonna do this is we need
to have the best coaches, which right now as they are,
they're some of the best coaches. They're absolutely the best
coaches we've ever had, a BUYU from top of the box,
the best team that we've ever had a BYU. And
we got to keep going with it because there's nothing
to fix here. There's nothing to improve on here. I mean,
there's always improvement per se, but I mean is there's
nothing to just start over with. Go with what's been working,
and Kalana is your head coach and this coaching staffs
and working phenomenally and it doesn't need to change. Hence
the reason why you got this blue blood in Penn
State who's desperate now trying to copy by They know
it's good, you know it's leaked, So let's let's let's
keep what's ours. That's my biggest message here today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the level of hope that you have right now, Brady,
that that Kilani can be retained at b YU.
Speaker 3: We all know that like there isn't.
Speaker 2: There's a never ending supply of resources if you want
to allocate it to it within the Church of Justus
Christ Letter Saints. Right, if they truly viewed as an
ambassador of a tool, missionary tool, we know that they
can afford to pay a market rate or even more
than that if they really choose to write, Yeah, what
level hope that do you have that this is the
direction that the institution and even the church to a
degree wants to go and in leadership going forward to
the BAU football program.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm hopeful, you know, but again it's it's gonna
be made manifest by decisions that are made and whatever this,
whatever direction they go, we're going to see how locked
in they are versus hell they're not, because like I said,
if Klane stays, they're locked in, and I'm gonna be
very impressed, you know, and it's going to be like, dude,
this is exactly what they should have done. This, They
handle us perfectly. They figured this out. If he goes,
then it's completely a failure by the administration. I'm going
to say that right now, the complete failure by there
and so, because there's no way that he's I just
can't imagine he's sitting there with this hard line, Hey,
you better match this deal from Penn State or I'm
not coming back, you know, because there's some intrinsic values
to being at BYU, you know, and he's recognize that,
and that's why he said he's not in the money.
He's there as a long term coach, you know. But
then at the same time, like I said, you go
back to this idea where it's like, well to make
sure he feels like he's just as much wanted here
at BUYU as he would be at Penn State, you know.
And so you know, that's that's where I stand. I
got we're going to see that, I'm hopeful, but ultimately
actions will speak to us. And if he's leaving, it's
not because he wants to leave. That's that's my my
take on it. Again, it's not anything I've been told,
It's not anything that uh, you know, I've been inside information.
This is surely my observation and what he has said publicly,
and uh, and so we'll see how it goes. Like
I I do believe though, that we have a lot
of smart people in our administration. Like I love those
guys the administration there. I think they do their very best.
I know they have, you know, budget constraints and all
these other things that they have to con but then
at the same time they have to understand that you know,
you know, and they do understand. Brian Sindeco say that
the football is the number one priority. It is literally
the Queen Mary that makes the whole operation go. And
you don't want to all of a sudden not give
your main operation the amount of investment, service, maintenance, whatever
you need to make it to where it continues to
be the catalyst for what you've done so far. And
there's no reason to give way of all the ground
that we've made so far to get where we're at.
In UY athletics, we're at a historically amazing point. In
UA athletics, our basketball team, I'm watching those guys, I'm like,
these dudes are It's like we got a teat, you know,
instead of a bunch of those scrappers. And I feel
the same way about our football team. I look like
I've told you many times there we got guys like
I don't I don't like going in this Texas Toblum.
I have no issue thinking, dude, we're just as talented,
we have just as much firepower. We just got to
put it together. If we put it together, they would
have beat them. But we have to see that too,
you know, and I and I and I have confidence
that they do see that, and that this process will
end up being one that is going to be better.
You know. It's gonna put everybody in a better position,
you know, going forward, and it's gonna be great because
you can get through this whole thing. We're both sides,
like Kwane and the administration are very communicative, very open
about everything, and uh that just helps set up future
conversations because it's only gonna happen more and more and more,
you know, with with either other coaches or even with
kwanne As we continue to ascend him in every year,
he's going to have this happen. And this is gonna
be a great message to send also to U two
future teams that want to come pluck coaches off our roster.
You know, they're gonna we're gonna say, hey, we're we're here,
We're we're looking to be elite, you know, because that's
the thing that blows in my mind too, is like
if you look in Nebraska, Indiana, who else did the
Penn State try to, you know, basically send out feelers
for I mean that those universities instantaneously extended their coaches,
you know. And that's kind of the only thing that
I'm seeing here that's like, we're still not sure who
we're who we are yet, you know, And I think
after this whole thing, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful again. And
then like I said, ultimately the actions are gonna speak
to us, uh, that will be coming out of this
to where it's like, yeah, we know who we are,
who we are, We're one of the elites. You're not
Defenn State. No, you're not gonna come pluck with par coach.
This is our guy. This is the reason why you
want him because you know, it's you know, it's this
is the lead stuff, you know, And we're not just
gonna go sell them off, you know. So I think
overall it's gonna be a good thing. And like it's
probably as you as you as I sat back and
look at it, it's another one of these kind of
growing moments as the university at large OF's taking that
next step.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just wonder, I mean, look at it.
I'll clarify.
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Border Trustees have to approve certain things, whether
it's like FTEs, full time equivalents like in staffing that
come on as W two employees. But for the most part,
like the the athletic department, I mean, it eats what
it kills, right, So if they generate one hundred and
twenty nine million and there's a surplus of profit of
fourteen million, they can do I believe what they want
with that fourteen million.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to reinvest it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have to pay you know,
the school for anything.
Speaker 3: Like we don't know everything.
Speaker 2: About how the the finances operate within the yu's athletic
department and boa as an institution. But the Border Trustees
are not using tithing funds and offerings and sacred folks
in order to support and booy up the athletic department
by any means. So I think they let like BYU
play in its sandbox, right bius institutionally and athletically they
get to play in the sandbox, So maybe Brian has
much more say in all this. Then then we think,
like so when I almost wonder it's like if if
Brian and the executive committee essentially comprised of Shane Reeese
and Keith vur Kink and it'll say Elder Gilbert was involved,
if somehow like you know, they they said, oh, we
were approving this deal. You know, we got to we
got to get it up to the board of trustees.
Now does that seem accurate as far as the chain
of command is concern or can they kind of operate
and say, no, this is how we're going to to
go forward with Kolani.
Speaker 4: Well, see, the way I would guess is they're giving
a budget, and that budget that's what they're working with,
and that's what they have. They can't I mean, they
could probably make requests to increase the budget or get
funding if they needed to have donors come in, which
is I think something that's pretty natural for a lot
of uh, you know, administrations in college sports. But I
think when you mentioned Shane and Keith, I mean I
think that's why there's three of them. You know, they're
they're meant to work together to be checks and balances
for each other, because, like I said, back when I played,
I don't know if they had that in play. I mean,
you know, obviously they scousing. I think was kind of
like Shane or Keith and he he did his own
thing and it just really screwed everything up, you know,
and and look to be fair to Scouts, and he
admitted that. I mean, he went back years later and
was like, yeah, that was a terrible timing of me
making a move on from val Hell. And like I said,
I'm not saying that he shouldn't have, but the timing
wasn't there. And I do believe maybe it's because he
was left to his own devices. But I don't think
that's how it is right now. I think you have,
like you said, you have that group of Stad and
Keith and then Brian, and then they get together and
they decide which direction they want to go, and they'd
probably come with their ideas and they work more as
a group than just one singular person trying to figure
this out because there's a lot, there's a lot of
there's a lot going on, you know. Like I said,
I think the biggest thing is you gotta you gotta budget,
Like I might have liked this about buy they got
to balance a budget. You know, nobody like Penn State's
not balancing a budget. However, understands that their home. Their
only goal is to get the biggest splash of a
coach they can get. They're gonna throw all the money
and resources at that coach to get them there. So
they look like, hey, we're gonna compete for national championship.
And uh, they're not worried about what they're the balance
sheet or their p and oo, their profit and lawt
sheet looks like at them all because they know they're
gonna get floated by donors, you know, because the donors
want to just see them contend. You know, that makes
them happy, and so they're willing to just throw money
at that because that's where their happiness is drawn from.
We don't do that at YU. And again, we don't
have to do that, you know, we're we got coaches,
and we got a system where guys can get paid fairly. Uh,
Clannie can get paid fairly. And I feel like, hey,
BYU wants just as bad or worse than the Penn State.
They can do that, and and I think that's the
point that we got to get to so winning will
go a long way too. I'm gonna tell everybody that
we go knock off tech tech bring it to them.
That'll really add a nice little flavor of sweetness this
whole situation. We can all just move on from it
and be like, Yeah. In addition, we got ourselves a championship.
So there's a lot of stuff here, and it's just,
you know, it's the business of college football. It's you know,
and it's it's shocking, you know, because we love Clannis
like the perfect coach for BUYU, the head coach for BUYU,
and we all hope that he stays here for a
long time. And like I said, I do believe it's
within the administration to make that happen and make him
feel like we want him at BUYU more than Penn State,
and I hope that's what happens.
Speaker 3: Yep.
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Is the college football world is in Uh. They've been
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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin to l s U trying to coach his
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Speaker 3: But uh, man, it just it just.
Speaker 2: Would would would paint us even more if Killane was
to leave in the same similar fashion.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I think, guys, I've mentioned there's one of two things
that that have have occurred, and we'll see what happens.
I'll give you a little bit more detail on that
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Speaker 3: But man, uh.
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Speaker 3: So this is the situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I got a text just a bit ago
from I would say reputable sources. I got two stories
for you here, and you can choose to believe either one.
We'll see which truth rings out. And most of you
guys are like, hey, well give me the truth.
Speaker 3: What do we know?
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm getting credible information I feel from
credible sources that are giving me a positive sign and
a negative sign. Okay, we'll see what happens. But this
is a negative right here. Okay, this is not as
positive I like it. To be two different sources right now,
pen stink Penn State thinks they are home with shatake
and all but certain it's done. So Penn State internally
believes that they have got their guy.
Speaker 3: But there's this little inny bitty.
Speaker 2: Chance that somehow, some way, BYU who operates a little
bit slowly in this world. Right when Signetti was signing
his nine year deal for ninety three million or Whinever
eight million or eight year ninety three million dollar deal
in October, you know, BYU, what were they doing. Were
they negotiating, were they getting out front of this? Were
they were they? Were they being proactive?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just seems like it's a little slow. I don't
like reactive. I like proactive, right. I don't like to
see the Crumble owner, you know, the CEO and owner saying, hey,
we gotta we gotta show Kalani the love. We gotta
start fundraising. I gotta get off the bench and start fundraising.
Speaker 3: We can keep Killani.
Speaker 2: It may be too little too late right now for that,
right especially if Penn State's like.
Speaker 3: No, we got him, we got him. We're giving him
everything that he needs, everything that he wants.
Speaker 2: We're showing him the love. Can you feel the love tonight,
Phil Collins? Can you feel the love tonight? Kilate Satake?
That's the question right now? Is he feeling the love
at BYU? So I have one side that's like Penn
State is the destination and these are reputable sources in
the industry, Okay. The intriguing thing is they haven't gone
on record to declare that it's a signed deal, which
leaves me hope.
Speaker 3: Right, there's a there's a little bit of hope.
Speaker 2: Here that that the meeting yesterday between Kilate, Brian Santiago,
Shane Rieski, four Kick, etcetera. Whoever else was involved, Okay,
and whatever they approved, right, I've been told that there
was an approval and they had to send it up
the command. They had to send it up the chain
of command to get it approved to see if this
was the right thing, if they want Kalate to be
their football coach for the foreseeable future. You can operate
in a number of different ways at BYU. You know,
you can give them ten years, eight years, seven years,
five years, you can give them ten year, right, you
can give him a sweetheart deal like and what I
mean by sweetheart deal is you can give him a
deal like, well, since you've accomplished so much in your
six years, this last six years, specifically over your ten
year period, what we're going to do for you is this,
We're going to allow you to be.
Speaker 3: An associate ad after you retire.
Speaker 2: So once your time is up let's say the next five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten years. Okay, we're gonna continue to pay you at
the rate that you're at, but we're gonna give you
a tenure and we're gonna give you a sweetheart deal,
which means you're going to be the associate idea, we're
going to continue to keep you on payroll within the
Boa Athletic department once we move on from you and
we welcome in that new coach. That's similar to what
Kyle Whittingham has with Morgan Scalley, is the coaching waiting
and what he's going to be within the athletic department
going forward.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, So.
Speaker 2: You could do something like that, or you can try
to be competitive in the actual dollar amount annually. If
you want to keep the deal short, you want to
keep it within five years, you can say, look six
and a half seven eight million dollars eight and a
half whatever that number is, whatever it is that Kaloni wants.
Klainie's probably asking, yeah for a pay race shirt. Like
I think that that's valid. I think he deserves it.
If he's making four and a half five million right now,
you know, four to five million in between there, depending
on incentives and what he accomplishes in any individual season.
Where should he be comparative to Kevin Young? If Kevin
Young's making that same amount, he's the football coach, and
football drives the ship.
Speaker 3: I'll keep hitting that home. If football drives the ship,
what are we doing? What are we paying?
Speaker 2: And are we staying within that fair market rate? And
so if you want to keep that that deal short, fine,
keep it short and just pay them some money and
then also more money for the coaches to retain them,
and also just just broadening the infrastructure and having more
NIL funds because we're getting into the new era of
NIL and revgen and revenue distribution for TV money and
you're gonna have to allocate those funds judiciously, and I
say aggressively in order to obtain and retain the talent
that you need to obtain and retain in order to
win a Big twelve championship in order to actually get
to a college football playoff, and then at once you
get to a COLLG football playoff to win in the.
Speaker 3: College football playoff.
Speaker 2: But even all that being said, it's not not even
that important that you win a Big Towel championship. It's
not even that all that important that you win or
you get to the college football payoff and you win
at the college football playoff level. I don't think that's
the most important thing as an ambassadorial tool for the
church es just Christ the latter of Saints, and I'm
talking about BO athletics.
Speaker 3: That is the ambassadorial tool. It's important to.
Speaker 2: Stay relevant and win, yes, while going out and serving,
that's what you're supposed to do and win your way.
Thrust in your sickle, go out and serve and do
what you've been doing over the last couple of years,
cogrodation aiding its importing and being good ambassadors of the faith,
being good ambassadors of Brigham and as as Boa Athletics
does as well the student athletes. So whether or not
a dealer is done, okay, I have hope. I have
hope right now that both of these situations are true.
That Penn State thinks they got their guy, but nothing
has been signed, and BYU internally is evaluating everything to
retain Okay, to retain Kilanie Sataki.
Speaker 3: I think both of these are true.
Speaker 2: And if they can't retain them, if they want to
move away from it, if Brian, if Shane, if if Keith,
if they don't want to do, if they don't want
to meet the standard that Kilanie is set from as
far as resource allocation is concerned within the BYU football
program and what Kilanie's vision of the football program is
going to be, then they let Kilannie walk.
Speaker 3: Okay. That's that's what it is.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear, Okay, I don't want
to hear when the dust settles, if Klanie does leave
the Penn State that Kilanie his selfish. Kilanie was just
looking for a payday. Kilanie was looking for generational money. Collin,
That's false. I will never believe that. In all of
my interaction with Kilanie over the last twenty five years,
it has never been about that. It has been about
mutual respect, love and learning. That's what it's been about, period, guys.
That's what it's been about so we'll see who wins
out at the end of the day. Guys, that's our show.
We're sticking to it. Want to remind all you Cougar
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