1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: What's going on in the world of Cougar athletics. Here 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,519 from players, coaches and experts on all the latest happenings 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,320 with the coouvers. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,199 Speaker 2: Love with that sports Free nine not sports for the 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,480 ESPN the ben I've been put a broadcast day. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,839 Speaker 3: From our Vanderwillth Studiesmanderwealth dot com. 7 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:18,519 Speaker 2: Get on a free Q and a no obligation doing 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,440 vest Q and A with our taxmall Wealth Advisors sort 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,800 off our financial planners. Nobody does it better than band 10 00:00:22,839 --> 00:00:24,519 or Wealth. It is don for a little world of 11 00:00:24,559 --> 00:00:27,839 BA sports. Talking to some BYU Athletics obviously Colonisatak and 12 00:00:27,879 --> 00:00:28,839 the rumors surrounding him. 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,199 Speaker 4: UH. 14 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: Penn State is UH is UH very much engaged and 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 has been engaged in conversations with Kilane over the last 16 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:39,719 few weeks, and they have offered him a lot of 17 00:00:39,759 --> 00:00:43,920 money as well as UH a lot of resources to 18 00:00:44,039 --> 00:00:45,600 obtain his talents. 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:46,719 Speaker 4: UH. 20 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:49,439 Speaker 2: They're at Penn State and now b YU has the 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,679 opportunity and my my opinion to UH to get competitive 22 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:53,920 with it. 23 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,119 Speaker 3: Now. 24 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Are they gonna match what BYU or what Penn State 25 00:00:57,079 --> 00:00:59,119 is offering. I don't think so, but they can get 26 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:02,560 competitive and we'll see how it plays out here. On three, 27 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:06,719 about an hour ago reported that BYU's COLLISONI has emerged 28 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:09,079 as Penn State's top target to become the Nitney Lions 29 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:11,719 next head coach. That was for Brett McMurphy, p NACo's 30 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,680 and and other insiders. They're at on three. This segment, 31 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:17,480 we're gonna book them in at a former BYU RT 32 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,079 to discuss the news and notes coming out of Brigham. 33 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:22,239 Gonna be brought to you by Primo Golf Apparel. Primo 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Golf Apparel dot com. They got their Black Friday sale 35 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:28,359 going on right now. 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They're locally owned 44 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:02,359 nationally and know now is to become more and more popular. 45 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:05,200 Get in on it at Premo Golfer Parrel, Premo Golfer 46 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,359 Barrel dot com. Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,039 in former BYU, great super Bowl champion. We got Brady 48 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:11,000 pupinga online be pop. 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: How you living well? 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,759 Speaker 4: What's up? It's a great day to be a Cougar. 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,719 You know why one of the top ELEAD programs in 52 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:22,479 the country wants to be us. Remember that Penn State 53 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:25,759 wants to be BYU today and this week and for 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,719 the next week. That's a heck of a compliment. 55 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting commentary. Right. 56 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:33,879 Speaker 2: Even Killane stated earlier today that hey, it's a good 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:40,960 sign that these these teams are evaluating BYU, the creme 58 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:44,080 de la crem the cock of the walks of college football, 59 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:50,360 the resource rich, the filthy luker Leyden institutions. They're coming 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,080 and they're evaluating BYU's coaching talent and they're saying we 61 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:54,719 want you. 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: That's a silver lining at all this. 63 00:02:56,719 --> 00:03:01,319 Speaker 4: Right, absolutely. And also it goes to show you, like 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,240 how good of a coach Kilani is. It shows you 65 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,400 his culture. It shows you that it's taking all the country. 66 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:11,919 It's getting their attention. Now here's the big key. The 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,120 big key is this does be why you think that 68 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,280 they are in that same group, because it's looking like 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Penn State based off of them wanting to basically, you know, 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,719 carbon copy our program by getting kilane is they think that, 71 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:30,280 But do we think that as an administration? You know, 72 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,400 And that's going to be how this whole thing plays out, 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,719 because I tell you what, if you let your coach 74 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:42,360 leaves and you think you're an elite program, that never happens. 75 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:44,759 I've never heard of that. I've never seen that. By 76 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:47,479 the way, if everybody's in good standing and you've got 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,800 success happening, I've never seen an elite program where the 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,599 coach leaves and goes to another lead program and kind 79 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,400 of makes the latter between quotations boots because if they 80 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:59,240 allow Kilanea to go, in my opinion, it just goes 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,000 to show that they don't believe that they're at the 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,800 top tier P four caliber team. And that's kind of 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 ironic since you know, there's a lot of rhetoric out 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,199 there complaining that we're not included into the playoff ranking 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,240 system as of yet and that we have to play 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,240 to get in. So that's gonna be ultimately the indicator 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,639 to me, if we really see ourselves in that light, 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,639 because if we do, we're gonna retain them, and it's 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,839 like we're gonna do whatever it takes to keep them, 90 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:25,800 and if not, it goes to show it's like, Okay, 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,000 I guess you just look at yourself kind of as 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,879 a second class citizen. You're gonna take a back seat 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,600 to these bigger schools, and then find that if that's 94 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:36,720 the case, then these committees and these pundits that are 95 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,399 constantly leaving us out, I guess they're right. 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting commentary because b yu's on the 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,920 outside looking in. Many of the pundits, analysts, and the 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,519 committee themselves have alluded to the fact that BYU has 99 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:51,439 to beat Texas Tech in Orlington in order to get 100 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:53,879 into the College Football Playoff. They've been relegated to kind 101 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:56,639 of that second class, that second tier, not the elite 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,279 tier of college football, despite with their record strength the 103 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:02,600 schedule on strength of record is currently. 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's to me is like, if you want 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,519 to be the best, you got to act like the best. 106 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:10,959 You got to show that that's what you believe you are. 107 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,240 And so to ba's administration. If you think you're a 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 top tier operation, you have an elite football team, then 109 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:20,319 you will not let the guy walk. You'll figure out 110 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:22,079 a way to keep him there. And if he walks, 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,040 like I said, it just shows you know where we're at. 112 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:28,120 But there's also other things that people have to consider 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 when talking about the polls, you know, And this now 114 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,040 goes away from the whole coaching situation, and it goes 115 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:38,079 to history. The reason why we run out of this polls, 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 and I will say this has to do with nineteen 117 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:43,040 eighty four and things that happened after that and before that, 118 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,040 and it has to do with the fact that we 119 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:51,079 busted the original determiner of a national championship, because I 120 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:53,439 hope everybody knows there's never once in the history of 121 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,680 college football, at least Division one, top level fowl college football, 122 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:01,720 there's never been an NCAA sanction champion ever. It's always 123 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,319 been both systems BCS, polls, you know. And we were 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 the team in nineteen eighty four that destroyed their ability 125 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,040 to determine national champions based off of just the polls. 126 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,040 And then that's when they created the BCS and all 127 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:17,360 these other polls to then try to keep us out right. 128 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:19,519 And then when they were trying to do that, we 129 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:22,199 were beating number one Miami, We were beating Texas, A 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,519 and M. We went to the to the Cotton Bowl. 131 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,279 We had that game in Arlington, Texas, the first ever 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,319 football game in Arlington, Texas, where we walk in and 133 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,199 we beat Oklahoma with what talent. Evaluators in the NFL 134 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:36,959 would say that they by far were more talented than 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,040 we were, and that was kind of our reputation these 136 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:41,480 Sure we had sprinkled in really top tier talent, but 137 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:43,920 overall we did not have the same level of brought 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,120 talent as other teams that we would beat, and we 139 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:49,160 became and are the most hated team in college football. 140 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,800 And then, for surely there's a religious element to this too. 141 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:54,720 You can't forget that there was a pullout not too 142 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:57,879 long ago about how which religion of those that claimed 143 00:06:57,879 --> 00:06:59,519 to be Christian are the most hated And guess what 144 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:02,920 Number one one is? The Church of Jesus Christ, Hilaritay Saints. 145 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,279 So we are fighting against history, We're fighting against how 146 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:09,720 people see us in terms of you know, how they 147 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:13,040 perceive BYU. We're fighting against a lot of stuff and 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,240 I'm gonna let everybody know that's listening. We will not 149 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:19,600 and I guarantee you we will not get voted into 150 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:22,879 the plaaffs. Do not expect it, do not count on 151 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,560 it not happening. Okay, too much stuff's gone on. There's 152 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,600 too much. Too much has happened to where it's like 153 00:07:29,639 --> 00:07:32,680 they don't want us in. That's why you probably know 154 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,399 better than me, Ben eleven one. The resume that we have, 155 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,120 if you compared it with any other team in the 156 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:41,439 history of college football, is eleven to one at this 157 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 point of the season. But the resume of our strength 158 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:49,360 to schedule a different differential of wins or what have you, 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,639 we would be by far the lowest ranked ever eleven 160 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:55,800 to one team. Okay, So just I want everybody to 161 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,600 know the only path we have is the path that 162 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:00,560 we've always had, which is we got a bust that 163 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,160 door down open, and we got to go in through 164 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,399 only one way, and that's beating test of stack. We 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 gotta beat them. We don't beat them, We're not getting it. 166 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,519 That's just even though we're fully deserving, we're fully capable 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,720 all those kind of things, we got to beat them 168 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:17,439 because otherwise we don't get into the playoffs. 169 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Wise words, I agree with you wholeheartedly, Brady Pepinka here 170 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,759 on ESPN The Fan. 171 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: Brady, when you. 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,759 Speaker 2: Evaluate this situation with Kilani and you see Penn State 173 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:32,039 not only offering Kilani possibly an eight figure salary, but 174 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:35,720 also an unlimited amount of funds in NIL for his 175 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:40,679 roster and unlimited funds for his staff, how can B 176 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,200 why you compete with that? They can't match what they're 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,039 doing and Penn State's going into this knowing that, B 178 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,000 why you will not match that? At least according to Mysos, 179 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,639 I don't think they're going to be that aggressive. You know, 180 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 how competitive can they be? And what percentage drop off 181 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:59,360 is it? Like twenty percent of like the total offering 182 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:04,440 of Penn State that below that offering that could keep 183 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:11,159 Kalate and the staff from from migrating to a land unknown. 184 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: In to the land that apparently not a lot of 185 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,519 people are looking to go to. 186 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: That's not the land of milk and honey. I can 187 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:21,519 tell you that much. That is not at baby, that 188 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,600 is not desret. 189 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why they're still looking for a coach, 190 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:27,840 you know. And they were actually the first coaching job 191 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:31,000 to open up during this whole cycle. So that's a 192 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,279 great point, and I hope people understand this. So here's 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,960 the thing. If you were if college football, and each 194 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,919 university was legitimately running their sports program, not just their 195 00:09:42,919 --> 00:09:45,000 football program, and and you got to be mindful that 196 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:48,000 the football program makes up the majority of the revenues, 197 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,120 so you could even say the football program, so it's 198 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,679 each university within Division one, or let's just say P 199 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:58,159 fourteens were actually running their sports program in their university 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,720 as a business. I don't I don't know if any 201 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,159 of these teams will actually being business because they don't 202 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:08,559 make money. They don't end up with a surplus except 203 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:14,000 for one, and that is yu okay. So having said that, 204 00:10:14,039 --> 00:10:17,440 you have Penn State that has these donors and has 205 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,080 this mentality where they're not balancing books, they're not looking 206 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,200 to sit into a budget. They their payoff from their 207 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,759 donors and their their deep pockets is we want to 208 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,519 just win, and we want to see our team win. 209 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:29,720 We want to have bragging rights over Ohio State and 210 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:32,519 Michigan and the Big Ten and blah blah. That's that's 211 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,879 their payoff. So they're going to throw money at this thing. 212 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 They're going to float their program. And if you want 213 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,840 and if you want more backup on that, just go 214 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:41,639 look at what the big ten commissioners trying to do. 215 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:45,279 Equity share because he needs loans, they need cash. Why 216 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,519 do they need cash? Got to pay players? And by 217 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:49,559 the way, they don't produce it internally, they do not 218 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:53,120 running a profitable business. U Yu, on the other hand, does. 219 00:10:53,759 --> 00:10:55,879 So of course Uyu is not going to go and say, yeah, 220 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:58,840 we're going to be equally as reckless as Penn State. 221 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:01,240 They're not going to do that, which is prudent. But 222 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:06,759 there is things that BYU can do to help Klannie 223 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:10,879 feel more wanted than Penn State is making him feel now, 224 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,000 And that's to be the big issue, and that's going 225 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 to be ultimately that determines this is Penn State going 226 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,039 to make our coach who's been here for ten years, 227 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,120 who has had a history of big fullback, who has 228 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:26,600 been a lifetime BYU fan, who, by the way, when 229 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,559 he does did come here, he was learning how to 230 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,360 coach at BYU and he mastered it. Are we going 231 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,279 to treat him less like we want him than Penn 232 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:40,279 State who just needs to fill this job with a 233 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,360 splash Hire because right now they're all losing their minds 234 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,519 at Penn State. Are we gonna let them do that? 235 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,799 Because we don't, because again we don't have to match that. 236 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:50,559 And so what we can do is we can give 237 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:56,000 him full of time over the football operations. That's one thing. Yeah, ladies, gentlemen, 238 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,519 Kilanie does not have full autonomy over football operations, which crazy, 239 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,360 right any other university their football coach has full autonomy 240 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:07,639 over football operations. That's how it should be. Why because 241 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:12,200 you're going to let your coach determine their destiny right now. Literally, 242 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 the administration of UYU could tell Kwana, you know what 243 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,279 you have to do, X, Y and Z. We have 244 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,639 the final executive decision making ability. You do it, and 245 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,840 he has to do it per the contract and per 246 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,600 the structure of Uyu Athletics and whether it's or against 247 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 the interests of the football team. That's messed up because 248 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,360 if it's a bad decision by the administration, then negatively 249 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,000 affects the coaches and the players and they go out 250 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,240 and they don't live up to that, you know, the 251 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,279 standard of winning that we're all customer bell you, they 252 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:43,000 get fired, not the administration it's pretty messed up. You know. 253 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,039 It's like the choice thing. You know, somebody's making the choices, 254 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,519 but they don't have to deal with the consequences, you 255 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:50,720 know what I'm saying. So that would be one thing. 256 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:55,000 Let's change that to be more logical. Give Klanne. He 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,559 would be given the term of what they call an 258 00:12:57,639 --> 00:13:02,000 executive of operation or for an executive of football operations, 259 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,679 where he gets and we're talking. He gets to choose 260 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:08,320 who to hire have in his staff in the training room, 261 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:13,039 he gets to choose anything that touches the sphere of football. 262 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,080 He makes the final choice, not the administration. That's the 263 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,279 first thing they can do. The second thing they can 264 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:20,159 do is, yeah, pay him some more money. I mean, 265 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,000 we got money. That's not something that short. I'm not 266 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:25,879 saying go and be reckless and be like Penn State. 267 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,320 But hey, we have funds. Okay, there's funds available, there's 268 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 donors that want Klowne there. We can do it. And Klannie, 269 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,039 I'm gonna tell you this right now. I know him personally, 270 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,840 and I'm not a spokesperson, but I just know him, 271 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,919 and then people probably would assume this about him too. 272 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,840 He's not in this that they be the highest picked 273 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,879 coach in college football. Okay, he's not in it for that, 274 00:13:44,039 --> 00:13:48,039 so he's not worried about having his contract matched. But 275 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,279 he is somebody who understands market value. He is somebody 276 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,120 who understands, you know, what I want to feel wanted, 277 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:56,960 and when you get an offer from a university, like 278 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,559 and I felt this way when I played in the NFL. 279 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,919 It's like, yeah, I'm getting an off from another team, 280 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,600 and but you're you're you know, the Packers are saying, oh, oh yeah, 281 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,000 that's a good offer. We're not going to match it. 282 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:08,279 I'm going to automatically feel like, well, obviously you don't 283 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:10,039 want me as much as that other team. That's just 284 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:12,279 a fact, because if you did, you would match it, 285 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,080 or at least you would get close to it to 286 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:17,840 make me feel wanted. In valued according to the value 287 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:21,159 I bring and the value we bring. By the way, 288 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,720 ladies and gentlemen in the free market system, is only 289 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:27,519 reflective of what somebody's willing to pay us. So if 290 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:30,200 you have you know, X, Y and Z company willing 291 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,759 to pay you x about it dollars, that's your value 292 00:14:32,919 --> 00:14:35,600 right now? Clone has Penn State were willing to pay him. 293 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:37,919 I guess the report is what eleven million year. His 294 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:40,000 market value is eleven million yere whether you want to 295 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,759 match it or not. And so and again, Cloonie's not 296 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,080 demanding they got to pay that. He's just demanding, Hey, 297 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,879 make me feel like you want to kind of go there, 298 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,720 not maybe or not to that degree, but go in 299 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,879 that direction and make me so wanted. And so that's 300 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,840 where we're at. I mean, this isn't hard. You know, 301 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:59,080 give him full autonomy, give them some more money, and 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,240 then you know what, maybe give them a longer term 303 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,159 on his deal. You know, it's where he feels like 304 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:05,879 he's got guarantees because this guy doesn't want to go anywhere. 305 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:08,320 I hope people understand that he does not want to go. 306 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:11,440 He's a BYU lifer and we want him as a 307 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:12,799 b you life for I do. 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,639 Speaker 1: I knew what I do. 309 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: He's got a phenomenal His program that he runs is 310 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:22,080 the most high energy, enjoyable program that I've ever been around. 311 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,679 The players respond to it. They love showing up, they 312 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,320 love playing. That in and of itself is an absolute 313 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:31,840 mastery job by twany. No other coach in college football 314 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:35,320 has made and created an environment like that where players 315 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,039 will literally be giddy to go play football. Most organizations 316 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,440 are these players. They go pay. They go play because 317 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,799 they're getting paid, or they got to make it happen 318 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 so they can get to the pros and help their families, 319 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:50,440 not just for the pure love of the game. Kilani 320 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:55,039 has an environment where he literally has created this pure 321 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 love of just showing up, being with your brothers. They 322 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:00,519 call each other brothers for the pure love of the game. 323 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:05,799 That is unmatchable, unmatched. I don't even know as unmatchable 324 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:09,840 as it work, but it's unmatched. It's almost impossible to create. 325 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:12,000 And he's created that, and he and and I think 326 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,600 even for the coaches. I don't don't have to ask 327 00:16:13,679 --> 00:16:15,559 my brother, but seems that you know, they enjoy it too. 328 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,519 It's kind of everybody. It's like, man, this is a 329 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:21,879 good place energetically, vibe wise to be and it makes 330 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,360 us to where we just love doing our jobs and 331 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:28,000 love playing and love coaching kids. That is invaluable, that 332 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,480 that environment, and that's and that's something that I don't 333 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:32,159 even know if he would be able to replicate at 334 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:35,039 Penn State with all the pressures and the powers that 335 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,320 be at there, so it's so it's one of those 336 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,320 things to where it's like if he he can, you know, 337 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,399 he doesn't have to get a deal match. But like 338 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,000 the big thing is make Kilani feel more wanted than 339 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,519 Penn State does. Just do that and if we do that, 340 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,080 we don't have to go, like I said, blow the 341 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,879 blow bank. We're going to be fine. If not, then 342 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:57,600 we got to rethink of who we really want to 343 00:16:57,639 --> 00:16:59,720 be as as a football and as a sports program. 344 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:03,759 Speaker 2: It yeah, okay, So who makes the final call in 345 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,240 this right The decision on whether Bou and Sataki recion 346 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:09,880 agreement does not rest solely on the athletics department. You know, 347 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,319 Brian Santiago, he's the athletic director. There's no doubt he 348 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,759 has to approve it. But I imagine Shane Reese, Keith Voorkink, 349 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Elder Gilbert, the Commission of the Church Educational System. They 350 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,640 all have to approve whatever it is that Brian, Shane 351 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,960 and Keith have have have evaluated and said, hey, this 352 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:30,640 is what we're proposing for Kilane to retain him as 353 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,480 our as our football brand, ambassador and leader of the 354 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,720 football program, which for many within the faith they view 355 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,319 it as an ambassador ambassadorial tool, even a missionary tool 356 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:48,759 for good. So this group then has to defeat it 357 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,680 to the Board of Trustees and they ultimately have to 358 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,960 prove it, prove of it right. The first Presidency of 359 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,079 the Church Jesus Christ letter says, the members of the 360 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,839 former twelve Apostles, the general authorities and church officers, they 361 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:02,599 have approve this and how do they view it? 362 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: How do they view athletics in this modern era? 363 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: Do you think well, I mean, based off of how 364 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,039 the trend has gone, it's it's a very positive. It's 365 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,440 really good. I mean, like, I don't know if we've 366 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,000 had this much publicity around the mission of the church, 367 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:25,759 around I mean what we stand for. I mean, look 368 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:29,079 at what we did with the food drive in Cincinnati. 369 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,240 Look at what happened in Texas Tech when there was 370 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,960 I believe it was the barber of the team, his 371 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,759 wife or he at one of the two had an 372 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:39,160 accident and we helped raise funds for that. I mean, 373 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,440 this is that's what it's all about. Yeah, And we 374 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:48,000 have been representing that as an organization as well as 375 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:51,559 you possibly can. And there's no way that the church 376 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,519 leadership would look at that and be like oh, we better, 377 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:55,440 we better get rid of this. No, they I would 378 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,480 imagine they want to invest more into that. How that 379 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:01,400 be something that's even more emphasized, maybe manifested, even on 380 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,759 a grander scale. So I don't see any problem with that. 381 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,400 The biggest thing is whoever's advising them, because I've imagine 382 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,160 there's I have to imagine probably it was when I 383 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:15,079 was there, because he got freaking scows in and he's 384 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,599 an idiot. Sorry scouts, and you know you're an idiot. 385 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,599 I know he's listening to us, but did he freaking 386 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,119 fires val Hell? And I'm bitter. Yeah, he screwed my 387 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,680 senior year over by the way. He fires val Hell 388 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,240 the week after we be built to day and val 389 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:31,519 Hell hired Gary Croton. He you know, Gary Croton hired Brownto, 390 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,079 and all those coaches were like, dude, if you tire 391 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,440 the the ad that basically brought us here, then we're 392 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,039 all probably gonna get fired. And it just screwed up 393 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:40,400 a whole year, which makes me think, like who who 394 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,880 allowed him to do that? You know, maybe the organization 395 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,440 has changed, but it makes me think that they just 396 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:47,839 let their you know, administrators do their jobs, which some 397 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,880 of them are idiots, and they just lack the wisdom. 398 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,680 You know, hopefully they're they're going more from a group think, 399 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:56,160 you know, angle to where they're got their checks and balances. 400 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,799 There's a little bit more wisdom and there's some understanding 401 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:01,960 there that hey, we're gonna look at this from a 402 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,680 MAC review and not do what Scousing did, you know, 403 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,519 and and others in the administration, and you know, we 404 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:09,880 all make mistakes, but we hopefully they've learned from them. 405 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,319 But the biggest thing is I think they're gonna lean 406 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,079 on the administration the gentleman you mentioned in addition to 407 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:17,759 Brian Santiago. I mean, they seem like the three guys 408 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,400 that are gonna get together and kind of come to 409 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:24,319 their own conclusion on what direction they're gonna go. And 410 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:26,720 and I hope, like I said, it's different than it 411 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:28,720 used to be where it's just one guy, because it's 412 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:30,880 easy if you're one person to not have all the 413 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,519 information and see the whole picture and make a bad choice. 414 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,200 I'm not saying that, you know, scouts, they shouldn't have 415 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 fired val Hill, and I'm not saying he shouldn't have 416 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:40,319 fired Croat. And eventually there have been a responsible for 417 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,119 what I am saying is that you shouldn't do it 418 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,119 at that time. But right there's timing elements and there's 419 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:47,359 nuances that a group is going to have a far 420 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,559 higher probability of handling better than just one person. So 421 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,359 having I said, having to directly answer that, I would 422 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,240 assume that they have in place groups that have autonomy 423 00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:01,440 over certain things, and that the administration and the board 424 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,319 directors all the things that is going to let whoever 425 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,240 oversees athletics that group do their thing and do what's 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,119 prudent and wise for YU and for ultimately the church. 427 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,519 And like I said, the right choice there, if they 428 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,480 are being wise and prudent, is they're gonna keep client. 429 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:16,920 They're going to figure out a way to keep them. 430 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,240 If not, then and like I said, I think they're 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,960 being extremely unwise and and it just doesn't doesn't add up, 432 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,640 doesn't make sense for where we've gone and where we're 433 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,240 at right now. We're on the brink is really breaking 434 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:32,200 into a new excellon of of college football, of being 435 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,119 considered amongst like not just those that are you know, 436 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,640 coming in at a disadvantage and beating these superior teams. 437 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,160 We're going to be looked at now is like, hey, 438 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,759 you're part of us. You're part of this top tiered 439 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,799 group of college football programs. We're on the burge. You're 440 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,920 doing that, you know, And a part of that process, 441 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,680 we've got to beat Texas Tech, ye know. And the way, 442 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:53,039 the best way we're gonna do this is we need 443 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,599 to have the best coaches, which right now as they are, 444 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,880 they're some of the best coaches. They're absolutely the best 445 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,000 coaches we've ever had, a BUYU from top of the box, 446 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000 the best team that we've ever had a BYU. And 447 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,519 we got to keep going with it because there's nothing 448 00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,960 to fix here. There's nothing to improve on here. I mean, 449 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,319 there's always improvement per se, but I mean is there's 450 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:14,000 nothing to just start over with. Go with what's been working, 451 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,799 and Kalana is your head coach and this coaching staffs 452 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:19,680 and working phenomenally and it doesn't need to change. Hence 453 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,519 the reason why you got this blue blood in Penn 454 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:25,000 State who's desperate now trying to copy by They know 455 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:28,279 it's good, you know it's leaked, So let's let's let's 456 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,759 keep what's ours. That's my biggest message here today. 457 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the level of hope that you have right now, Brady, 458 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:41,200 that that Kilani can be retained at b YU. 459 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,319 Speaker 3: We all know that like there isn't. 460 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: There's a never ending supply of resources if you want 461 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,839 to allocate it to it within the Church of Justus 462 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Christ Letter Saints. Right, if they truly viewed as an 463 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,200 ambassador of a tool, missionary tool, we know that they 464 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,880 can afford to pay a market rate or even more 465 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,200 than that if they really choose to write, Yeah, what 466 00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:07,119 level hope that do you have that this is the 467 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,480 direction that the institution and even the church to a 468 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,519 degree wants to go and in leadership going forward to 469 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,400 the BAU football program. 470 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,079 Speaker 4: Well, I'm hopeful, you know, but again it's it's gonna 471 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,799 be made manifest by decisions that are made and whatever this, 472 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,680 whatever direction they go, we're going to see how locked 473 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,720 in they are versus hell they're not, because like I said, 474 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,920 if Klane stays, they're locked in, and I'm gonna be 475 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,440 very impressed, you know, and it's going to be like, dude, 476 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,599 this is exactly what they should have done. This, They 477 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:41,839 handle us perfectly. They figured this out. If he goes, 478 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,839 then it's completely a failure by the administration. I'm going 479 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,400 to say that right now, the complete failure by there 480 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,400 and so, because there's no way that he's I just 481 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,920 can't imagine he's sitting there with this hard line, Hey, 482 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,319 you better match this deal from Penn State or I'm 483 00:23:57,319 --> 00:24:01,279 not coming back, you know, because there's some intrinsic values 484 00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,720 to being at BYU, you know, and he's recognize that, 485 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:06,480 and that's why he said he's not in the money. 486 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:10,039 He's there as a long term coach, you know. But 487 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:11,599 then at the same time, like I said, you go 488 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119 back to this idea where it's like, well to make 489 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,440 sure he feels like he's just as much wanted here 490 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:19,519 at BUYU as he would be at Penn State, you know. 491 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,240 And so you know, that's that's where I stand. I 492 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:26,599 got we're going to see that, I'm hopeful, but ultimately 493 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,680 actions will speak to us. And if he's leaving, it's 494 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,279 not because he wants to leave. That's that's my my 495 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,880 take on it. Again, it's not anything I've been told, 496 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,519 It's not anything that uh, you know, I've been inside information. 497 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:43,200 This is surely my observation and what he has said publicly, 498 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:45,960 and uh, and so we'll see how it goes. Like 499 00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:50,079 I I do believe though, that we have a lot 500 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,599 of smart people in our administration. Like I love those 501 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,720 guys the administration there. I think they do their very best. 502 00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:58,599 I know they have, you know, budget constraints and all 503 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,200 these other things that they have to con but then 504 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,279 at the same time they have to understand that you know, 505 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:06,240 you know, and they do understand. Brian Sindeco say that 506 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:09,319 the football is the number one priority. It is literally 507 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,799 the Queen Mary that makes the whole operation go. And 508 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,920 you don't want to all of a sudden not give 509 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:20,440 your main operation the amount of investment, service, maintenance, whatever 510 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,720 you need to make it to where it continues to 511 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,960 be the catalyst for what you've done so far. And 512 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:29,079 there's no reason to give way of all the ground 513 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,839 that we've made so far to get where we're at. 514 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:35,200 In UY athletics, we're at a historically amazing point. In 515 00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:38,440 UA athletics, our basketball team, I'm watching those guys, I'm like, 516 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,599 these dudes are It's like we got a teat, you know, 517 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,880 instead of a bunch of those scrappers. And I feel 518 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,640 the same way about our football team. I look like 519 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,920 I've told you many times there we got guys like 520 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200 I don't I don't like going in this Texas Toblum. 521 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,440 I have no issue thinking, dude, we're just as talented, 522 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,519 we have just as much firepower. We just got to 523 00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:00,359 put it together. If we put it together, they would 524 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,839 have beat them. But we have to see that too, 525 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,039 you know, and I and I and I have confidence 526 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,599 that they do see that, and that this process will 527 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920 end up being one that is going to be better. 528 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,119 You know. It's gonna put everybody in a better position, 529 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,000 you know, going forward, and it's gonna be great because 530 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:15,920 you can get through this whole thing. We're both sides, 531 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,799 like Kwane and the administration are very communicative, very open 532 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,759 about everything, and uh that just helps set up future 533 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,200 conversations because it's only gonna happen more and more and more, 534 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119 you know, with with either other coaches or even with 535 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,640 kwanne As we continue to ascend him in every year, 536 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,119 he's going to have this happen. And this is gonna 537 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,680 be a great message to send also to U two 538 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,920 future teams that want to come pluck coaches off our roster. 539 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,720 You know, they're gonna we're gonna say, hey, we're we're here, 540 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,039 We're we're looking to be elite, you know, because that's 541 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,400 the thing that blows in my mind too, is like 542 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,720 if you look in Nebraska, Indiana, who else did the 543 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,759 Penn State try to, you know, basically send out feelers 544 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:57,920 for I mean that those universities instantaneously extended their coaches, 545 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,119 you know. And that's kind of the only thing that 546 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720 I'm seeing here that's like, we're still not sure who 547 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,839 we're who we are yet, you know, And I think 548 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,240 after this whole thing, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful again. And 549 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,839 then like I said, ultimately the actions are gonna speak 550 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,440 to us, uh, that will be coming out of this 551 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:14,759 to where it's like, yeah, we know who we are, 552 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,759 who we are, We're one of the elites. You're not 553 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Defenn State. No, you're not gonna come pluck with par coach. 554 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 This is our guy. This is the reason why you 555 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,519 want him because you know, it's you know, it's this 556 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,720 is the lead stuff, you know, And we're not just 557 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,240 gonna go sell them off, you know. So I think 558 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,039 overall it's gonna be a good thing. And like it's 559 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,160 probably as you as you as I sat back and 560 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,599 look at it, it's another one of these kind of 561 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,440 growing moments as the university at large OF's taking that 562 00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:40,000 next step. 563 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just wonder, I mean, look at it. 564 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,359 I'll clarify. 565 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: Obviously, the Border Trustees have to approve certain things, whether 566 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,759 it's like FTEs, full time equivalents like in staffing that 567 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,039 come on as W two employees. But for the most part, 568 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:59,079 like the the athletic department, I mean, it eats what 569 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,759 it kills, right, So if they generate one hundred and 570 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,599 twenty nine million and there's a surplus of profit of 571 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,559 fourteen million, they can do I believe what they want 572 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:08,480 with that fourteen million. 573 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to reinvest it. 574 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if they have to pay you know, 575 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,039 the school for anything. 576 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,039 Speaker 3: Like we don't know everything. 577 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,599 Speaker 2: About how the the finances operate within the yu's athletic 578 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,160 department and boa as an institution. But the Border Trustees 579 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,920 are not using tithing funds and offerings and sacred folks 580 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,319 in order to support and booy up the athletic department 581 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,559 by any means. So I think they let like BYU 582 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,200 play in its sandbox, right bius institutionally and athletically they 583 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,759 get to play in the sandbox, So maybe Brian has 584 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000 much more say in all this. Then then we think, 585 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,359 like so when I almost wonder it's like if if 586 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,559 Brian and the executive committee essentially comprised of Shane Reeese 587 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,960 and Keith vur Kink and it'll say Elder Gilbert was involved, 588 00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,880 if somehow like you know, they they said, oh, we 589 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:05,519 were approving this deal. You know, we got to we 590 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,200 got to get it up to the board of trustees. 591 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,960 Now does that seem accurate as far as the chain 592 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,359 of command is concern or can they kind of operate 593 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,759 and say, no, this is how we're going to to 594 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 go forward with Kolani. 595 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,599 Speaker 4: Well, see, the way I would guess is they're giving 596 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,839 a budget, and that budget that's what they're working with, 597 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,559 and that's what they have. They can't I mean, they 598 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:30,240 could probably make requests to increase the budget or get 599 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400 funding if they needed to have donors come in, which 600 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160 is I think something that's pretty natural for a lot 601 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,920 of uh, you know, administrations in college sports. But I 602 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,720 think when you mentioned Shane and Keith, I mean I 603 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:44,920 think that's why there's three of them. You know, they're 604 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,839 they're meant to work together to be checks and balances 605 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,960 for each other, because, like I said, back when I played, 606 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400 I don't know if they had that in play. I mean, 607 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,119 you know, obviously they scousing. I think was kind of 608 00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:58,680 like Shane or Keith and he he did his own 609 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,519 thing and it just really screwed everything up, you know, 610 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,559 and and look to be fair to Scouts, and he 611 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,680 admitted that. I mean, he went back years later and 612 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,559 was like, yeah, that was a terrible timing of me 613 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,920 making a move on from val Hell. And like I said, 614 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,319 I'm not saying that he shouldn't have, but the timing 615 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,240 wasn't there. And I do believe maybe it's because he 616 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,039 was left to his own devices. But I don't think 617 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,839 that's how it is right now. I think you have, 618 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 like you said, you have that group of Stad and 619 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Keith and then Brian, and then they get together and 620 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,200 they decide which direction they want to go, and they'd 621 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640 probably come with their ideas and they work more as 622 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,319 a group than just one singular person trying to figure 623 00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,839 this out because there's a lot, there's a lot of 624 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,079 there's a lot going on, you know. Like I said, 625 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,279 I think the biggest thing is you gotta you gotta budget, 626 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,640 Like I might have liked this about buy they got 627 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,319 to balance a budget. You know, nobody like Penn State's 628 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,680 not balancing a budget. However, understands that their home. Their 629 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,279 only goal is to get the biggest splash of a 630 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:52,960 coach they can get. They're gonna throw all the money 631 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960 and resources at that coach to get them there. So 632 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 they look like, hey, we're gonna compete for national championship. 633 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,319 And uh, they're not worried about what they're the balance 634 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:01,799 sheet or their p and oo, their profit and lawt 635 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:03,599 sheet looks like at them all because they know they're 636 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,240 gonna get floated by donors, you know, because the donors 637 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,240 want to just see them contend. You know, that makes 638 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000 them happy, and so they're willing to just throw money 639 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,960 at that because that's where their happiness is drawn from. 640 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,839 We don't do that at YU. And again, we don't 641 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,519 have to do that, you know, we're we got coaches, 642 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:20,519 and we got a system where guys can get paid fairly. Uh, 643 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:24,000 Clannie can get paid fairly. And I feel like, hey, 644 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:27,200 BYU wants just as bad or worse than the Penn State. 645 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,599 They can do that, and and I think that's the 646 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,559 point that we got to get to so winning will 647 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,599 go a long way too. I'm gonna tell everybody that 648 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160 we go knock off tech tech bring it to them. 649 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,640 That'll really add a nice little flavor of sweetness this 650 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,119 whole situation. We can all just move on from it 651 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,799 and be like, Yeah. In addition, we got ourselves a championship. 652 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,119 So there's a lot of stuff here, and it's just, 653 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200 you know, it's the business of college football. It's you know, 654 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920 and it's it's shocking, you know, because we love Clannis 655 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,680 like the perfect coach for BUYU, the head coach for BUYU, 656 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,000 and we all hope that he stays here for a 657 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,880 long time. 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Don't go anywhere more to get 737 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,119 to This is Cougar Sports on one of three nine 738 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:38,880 nine eight point three e SPS. 739 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,559 Speaker 1: Just like the Cougar football team, Ben Criddle was built, 740 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,840 not born, and since two thousand and nineties built himself 741 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,639 into the go to source on the radio and online 742 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,920 for all games Cougars. This he is Cougar Sports with 743 00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,760 Ben Kredel on one oh three nine at ninety eight 744 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:01,199 three DSPN fan. 745 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:11,119 Speaker 3: You know, noations and a nation call the financial lenards. 746 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,119 Speaker 2: Nobody does it better. 747 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 3: Than man or Well A crazy train bringing us back 748 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,679 from the break. We're on that crazy train right now. 749 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,639 Is the college football world is in Uh. They've been 750 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:21,199 in turmoil. 751 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin to l s U trying to coach his 752 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,719 team through the college football playoff. They probably will be impacted. 753 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,719 We'll see what happens tomorrow. Vegas odds makers are are 754 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,440 expecting maybe a four slot drop for Ole Miss due 755 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,400 to the fact that link Kiffin and and pretty much 756 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,760 his entire offensive staff are heading to LSU if something 757 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,159 like that were to happen to b YU. I mean, look, 758 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,320 they're already outside looking in of the college football Playoff 759 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:51,480 as an at large. 760 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,119 Speaker 3: But uh, man, it just it just. 761 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,519 Speaker 2: Would would would paint us even more if Killane was 762 00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,159 to leave in the same similar fashion. 763 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm hoping it doesn't happen. 764 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: I think, guys, I've mentioned there's one of two things 765 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,119 that that have have occurred, and we'll see what happens. 766 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:11,519 I'll give you a little bit more detail on that 767 00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:12,440 here momentarily. 768 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,559 Speaker 3: But man, uh. 769 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: It's chaos, it's crazy, and you hope it all works 770 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,840 out for Brigham Young University. 771 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 3: Guys. 772 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,079 Speaker 2: This this segment, this final segment of the show is 773 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,039 gonna be brought to you by our good friends at 774 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,840 the Utah Advocates Utah Advocates injury attorneys. 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They just simply win. 786 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,960 If another drivers negligence leadsha injured with medical bills piling 787 00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,719 up that you can't pay, you need to call the 788 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,880 injury attorneys at the Advocates no cost consultations. You'll never 789 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239 pay a time out of pocket while the Advocates work 790 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,239 on recovering the compensation you deserve. 791 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: So this is the situation. 792 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: Okay, And I got a text just a bit ago 793 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,239 from I would say reputable sources. I got two stories 794 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,400 for you here, and you can choose to believe either one. 795 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,800 We'll see which truth rings out. And most of you 796 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,280 guys are like, hey, well give me the truth. 797 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:37,199 Speaker 3: What do we know? 798 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,679 Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm getting credible information I feel from 799 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,239 credible sources that are giving me a positive sign and 800 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,559 a negative sign. Okay, we'll see what happens. But this 801 00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,840 is a negative right here. Okay, this is not as 802 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,280 positive I like it. To be two different sources right now, 803 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:03,039 pen stink Penn State thinks they are home with shatake 804 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:11,960 and all but certain it's done. So Penn State internally 805 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,960 believes that they have got their guy. 806 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,599 Speaker 3: But there's this little inny bitty. 807 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: Chance that somehow, some way, BYU who operates a little 808 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,400 bit slowly in this world. Right when Signetti was signing 809 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,280 his nine year deal for ninety three million or Whinever 810 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,960 eight million or eight year ninety three million dollar deal 811 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,039 in October, you know, BYU, what were they doing. Were 812 00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:42,920 they negotiating, were they getting out front of this? Were 813 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,320 they were they? Were they being proactive? 814 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,199 Speaker 3: I don't know. 815 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: It just seems like it's a little slow. I don't 816 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,079 like reactive. I like proactive, right. I don't like to 817 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:55,119 see the Crumble owner, you know, the CEO and owner saying, hey, 818 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,400 we gotta we gotta show Kalani the love. We gotta 819 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,880 start fundraising. I gotta get off the bench and start fundraising. 820 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 3: We can keep Killani. 821 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: It may be too little too late right now for that, 822 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,960 right especially if Penn State's like. 823 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: No, we got him, we got him. We're giving him 824 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,880 everything that he needs, everything that he wants. 825 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,039 Speaker 2: We're showing him the love. Can you feel the love tonight, 826 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,400 Phil Collins? Can you feel the love tonight? Kilate Satake? 827 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,679 That's the question right now? Is he feeling the love 828 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,679 at BYU? So I have one side that's like Penn 829 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,679 State is the destination and these are reputable sources in 830 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,639 the industry, Okay. The intriguing thing is they haven't gone 831 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,320 on record to declare that it's a signed deal, which 832 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,400 leaves me hope. 833 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 3: Right, there's a there's a little bit of hope. 834 00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: Here that that the meeting yesterday between Kilate, Brian Santiago, 835 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,199 Shane Rieski, four Kick, etcetera. Whoever else was involved, Okay, 836 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320 and whatever they approved, right, I've been told that there 837 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,960 was an approval and they had to send it up 838 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,039 the command. They had to send it up the chain 839 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,159 of command to get it approved to see if this 840 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,079 was the right thing, if they want Kalate to be 841 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:19,199 their football coach for the foreseeable future. You can operate 842 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,400 in a number of different ways at BYU. You know, 843 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,440 you can give them ten years, eight years, seven years, 844 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,880 five years, you can give them ten year, right, you 845 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,880 can give him a sweetheart deal like and what I 846 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,639 mean by sweetheart deal is you can give him a 847 00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:36,280 deal like, well, since you've accomplished so much in your 848 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,639 six years, this last six years, specifically over your ten 849 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,039 year period, what we're going to do for you is this, 850 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,960 We're going to allow you to be. 851 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,599 Speaker 3: An associate ad after you retire. 852 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: So once your time is up let's say the next five, six, seven, eight, nine, 853 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,360 ten years. Okay, we're gonna continue to pay you at 854 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000 the rate that you're at, but we're gonna give you 855 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,000 a tenure and we're gonna give you a sweetheart deal, 856 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,039 which means you're going to be the associate idea, we're 857 00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:05,800 going to continue to keep you on payroll within the 858 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,559 Boa Athletic department once we move on from you and 859 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:11,639 we welcome in that new coach. That's similar to what 860 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:16,239 Kyle Whittingham has with Morgan Scalley, is the coaching waiting 861 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,480 and what he's going to be within the athletic department 862 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,639 going forward. 863 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,559 Speaker 3: Okay, right, So. 864 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: You could do something like that, or you can try 865 00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:30,880 to be competitive in the actual dollar amount annually. If 866 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,599 you want to keep the deal short, you want to 867 00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,320 keep it within five years, you can say, look six 868 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,320 and a half seven eight million dollars eight and a 869 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,440 half whatever that number is, whatever it is that Kaloni wants. 870 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:44,199 Klainie's probably asking, yeah for a pay race shirt. Like 871 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,320 I think that that's valid. I think he deserves it. 872 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,400 If he's making four and a half five million right now, 873 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,760 you know, four to five million in between there, depending 874 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360 on incentives and what he accomplishes in any individual season. 875 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,440 Where should he be comparative to Kevin Young? If Kevin 876 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,119 Young's making that same amount, he's the football coach, and 877 00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:02,199 football drives the ship. 878 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 3: I'll keep hitting that home. If football drives the ship, 879 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,239 what are we doing? What are we paying? 880 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: And are we staying within that fair market rate? And 881 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,480 so if you want to keep that that deal short, fine, 882 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,480 keep it short and just pay them some money and 883 00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:27,639 then also more money for the coaches to retain them, 884 00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,719 and also just just broadening the infrastructure and having more 885 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,400 NIL funds because we're getting into the new era of 886 00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:39,159 NIL and revgen and revenue distribution for TV money and 887 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,519 you're gonna have to allocate those funds judiciously, and I 888 00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:46,039 say aggressively in order to obtain and retain the talent 889 00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,039 that you need to obtain and retain in order to 890 00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,079 win a Big twelve championship in order to actually get 891 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,960 to a college football playoff, and then at once you 892 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,840 get to a COLLG football playoff to win in the. 893 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 3: College football playoff. 894 00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 2: But even all that being said, it's not not even 895 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000 that important that you win a Big Towel championship. It's 896 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,639 not even that all that important that you win or 897 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,280 you get to the college football payoff and you win 898 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,199 at the college football playoff level. I don't think that's 899 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,760 the most important thing as an ambassadorial tool for the 900 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,320 church es just Christ the latter of Saints, and I'm 901 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,320 talking about BO athletics. 902 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,039 Speaker 3: That is the ambassadorial tool. It's important to. 903 00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: Stay relevant and win, yes, while going out and serving, 904 00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:29,679 that's what you're supposed to do and win your way. 905 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,440 Thrust in your sickle, go out and serve and do 906 00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:34,000 what you've been doing over the last couple of years, 907 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:38,480 cogrodation aiding its importing and being good ambassadors of the faith, 908 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:43,360 being good ambassadors of Brigham and as as Boa Athletics 909 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,679 does as well the student athletes. So whether or not 910 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,239 a dealer is done, okay, I have hope. I have 911 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480 hope right now that both of these situations are true. 912 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,519 That Penn State thinks they got their guy, but nothing 913 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:06,360 has been signed, and BYU internally is evaluating everything to 914 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,400 retain Okay, to retain Kilanie Sataki. 915 00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: I think both of these are true. 916 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: And if they can't retain them, if they want to 917 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,840 move away from it, if Brian, if Shane, if if Keith, 918 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,599 if they don't want to do, if they don't want 919 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,599 to meet the standard that Kilanie is set from as 920 00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:29,079 far as resource allocation is concerned within the BYU football 921 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,480 program and what Kilanie's vision of the football program is 922 00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,039 going to be, then they let Kilannie walk. 923 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 3: Okay. That's that's what it is. 924 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear, Okay, I don't want 925 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,519 to hear when the dust settles, if Klanie does leave 926 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,920 the Penn State that Kilanie his selfish. Kilanie was just 927 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,239 looking for a payday. Kilanie was looking for generational money. Collin, 928 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:56,360 That's false. I will never believe that. In all of 929 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,920 my interaction with Kilanie over the last twenty five years, 930 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,679 it has never been about that. It has been about 931 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,239 mutual respect, love and learning. That's what it's been about, period, guys. 932 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,119 That's what it's been about so we'll see who wins 933 00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:17,559 out at the end of the day. Guys, that's our show. 934 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:19,400 We're sticking to it. Want to remind all you Cougar 935 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,599 fans in Cougar Country that the SLC Slam Doubleheader is 936 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,840 underway that the Delta Center. Utah Valley University will play 937 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,880 the University of California Santa Barbara at twelve pm and 938 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:35,000 Utah State University will face Illinois State University at three 939 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,639 pm in Salt Lake City at the Salt Lake City 940 00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:41,039 Slam at Delta Center on December thirteenth. Bryce and b 941 00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:43,199 and Ucci have a four pack of tickets to give 942 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960 away at eight twenty am this week, so make sure 943 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,079 you're tuning in once again the SLC Slam Doubleheader. Utah 944 00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,159 Valley University will play the University of California Santa Barbara 945 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,760 at twelve pm and Utah State University will face Illinois 946 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,800 State University at three pm in Salt Lake City at 947 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,920 the Delta Center on December thirteenth. Bryce and Biaouci have 948 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,800 a four pack of tickets to give away at eight 949 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,039 twenty am this week. Guys, Big Growing everyone that joined us, 950 00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:12,920 Big who grow it up? Brett always bringing the Hammer, 951 00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,920 Ronald the three Man Weaver. We had a great guest 952 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,960 line up with John Beck, Brady Papinga, and Matt Brown. 953 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,519 Speaker 3: Of extra points. I've been tweeting out a lot. 954 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to publish a story tonight, going into 955 00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:28,719 every detail that I can, in every detail that I know, 956 00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,119 on KSL dot com, So look for that as well. 957 00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:36,079 Make sure you're watching my timeline at Crudel Benjamin and 958 00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:38,719 checking out KSHL dot com. If you have any questions 959 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,280 trying to I'm be happy to try to answer him 960 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920 via DM. There's only so much I can go into 961 00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,440 with the details, but happy to interact with all you 962 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,480 Cougar fans and Cougar Country from all of us here 963 00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,400 at ESPN the Fan. We wish you a very good night, 964 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,599 have a safe night. We'll be back Tomorrow's always here 965 00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,000 on your Utah. ESPN Radio Network one oh three nine 966 00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:58,199 ninety eight point three ESPN