WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:02.560 All right, let's get a drive time. 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:06.919 Tuesday afternoon, fourteen minutes past the hour two o'clock turned 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.119 into a nice, warm afternoon after. 4 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:10.199 A chilly, chilly morning. 5 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.199 Little cloud coverage put some sunshine here in downtown Salt 6 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:17.320 Lake City, Utah, about sixty two degrees on this beautiful 7 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:20.039 May Tuesday afternoon. And as it is every single day, 8 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:21.920 it's gonna have you along for the Rids fence check. 9 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.800 It's behind the Mike Porter Larsen behind the glass today 10 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.399 producing booking the show Busy jam Pack Tuesday Show. 11 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:29.600 As we're getting ready. 12 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:34.200 For the conference finals in both professional basketball and pro hockey. 13 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.759 Conference finals. Final four for both the NHL and the NBA. 14 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.000 No basketball or hockey last night, but the Timberwolves in 15 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.280 the Thunder at Pecom Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, tip 16 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.679 off at six thirty tonight on ESPN. 17 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.079 Tomorrow night will be the New. 18 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.399 York Knicks and the Boston Celtics, So the West tonight, 19 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.280 the East Tomorrow. In the world of pro hockey, it's 20 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:02.240 gonna be the Panthers and the Hurricane in Raleigh, North Carolina. 21 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.799 First puck will drop at six o'clock on TNT, SO 22 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.760 Busy Night tonight as the conference finals get going, a 23 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:11.640 couple of new mock drafts I want to get to 24 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.280 as far as who the Jazz could look at at 25 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.719 number five, and the Jazz also have a second first 26 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.920 round pick and a couple of second round picks as well. 27 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.120 Want to remind you we will have you taken care of. 28 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.319 Coming up on June the twenty fifth. Our Draft night 29 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:28.200 coverage will be excellent. It'll be myself, but most importantly 30 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.480 it'll be Gordy Chiasa and Richard Smith to you guys 31 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.719 that basically spent a lifetime in the world of professional 32 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:36.760 basketball with Utah Jazz and others. 33 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.760 Gordy should be in the Hall of Fame. 34 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.400 We'll get to that maybe at some point, but it'll 35 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.000 be exciting and potentially out in about We'll let you 36 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.000 know what our plans are as we will bring you 37 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.680 excellent coverage of the draft and we'll stay on for 38 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.120 the first round on June the twenty fifth. The second 39 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.640 round is the twenty six that actually runs through our 40 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.959 afternoon drive show, so we'll be able to bring you 41 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.280 live analysis of who the land on the second round 42 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.439 or if they trade up trade down. Speaking of rookies, 43 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.120 the All Rookie team came out today in Pro Basketball. 44 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:11.479 No Isaiah Collier, no Kyle Philipowski, but they landed just 45 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.759 on the outside looking in. I believe Collier was eleven 46 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.039 as far as the votes go, and Philipowski was twelve. 47 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.400 Isaiah did get one first team vote, but did not 48 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.199 make either first or second team, so he's kind of 49 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.080 hoping for that for either of those two, who had 50 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:28.240 very fine rookie campaigns for the Utah Jazz. A lot 51 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.080 of rumors regarding NBA offseason moves, A lot of them 52 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:36.439 are kind of involving the potential of the Jazz getting involved. 53 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.479 Will keep you up to date as we go throughout 54 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:41.759 the show today, So a lot to do on the 55 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.599 program today. The Jazz have announced their Summer League dates 56 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.280 July the fifth through the eighth. It's going to be 57 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:49.199 played at the Huntsman Center, not Delta Center because of 58 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.800 course construction downtown. 59 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:52.000 I'll tell you what. 60 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.080 The last time the Jazz played Summer League at the 61 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.000 Huntsman Center was the rookie season of one Donovan Mitchell 62 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:59.520 and I was their courtside and that was the first 63 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.360 time I said that, oh, okay, this kid is serious. 64 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.840 He gave it to Jason Tatum once upon a time 65 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.840 a number years ago at the Huntsman Center. 66 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.800 So we have that on the table today. 67 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:16.120 NFL offseason meetings some voting today on some rules, namely 68 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.759 the NFL will allow their football players to play flag 69 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.800 football for the twenty eight Olympics. Here's my question, right 70 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.919 out of the gates, who are we playing against? Like 71 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.879 who in the world can feel the flag football team 72 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:33.199 that can keep up with Like is an American sport? 73 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.719 Does like Turkey have football players. 74 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.639 That I don't know about when I first saw this story, 75 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.639 Like who are our peers in flag football worldwide? 76 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:45.439 Yeah, there's like there's a little NFL europe action. Of 77 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.360 course rugby like countries that have rugby, I know they 78 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.840 have like little niche football teams because there's that kind 79 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:57.479 of overlapping interest. But there's not much as far as 80 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.800 anything that should compete with the Olympics. Especially if you're 81 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:02.400 you're just kind of going out there and doing the 82 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.199 flag football seven on seven thing. You you should win 83 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.520 a gold medal and not have to send any NFL players. 84 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.120 No, Like when I first heard, like, all right, should 85 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:14.000 we let NFL players play flag football? Mike against who. 86 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.680 It's like, does does Bekistan have a quarterback? I don't 87 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.240 know about this seems like an odd thing. 88 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.240 Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm sure once it becomes an 89 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:28.439 Olympic sport, that's the thing. Once it becomes in the Olympics, 90 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.160 regardless of how you know, funny, we may find it. 91 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.600 You know, curling once upon a time looks pretty silly, 92 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.519 I'm sure, But once it becomes an Olympic sport, you 93 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.560 have countries that will invest in it. They will literally 94 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.319 put money into having a football team, even if they 95 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:46.279 are in the middle of nowhere. 96 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.800 So hey, girl, the game just. 97 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.600 It just kind of strikes me as our Olympic team 98 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.120 ninety two Barcelona, Like every game is going to be 99 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.560 a blowout. But anyway, they're also voting on the tush push. 100 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.519 They're voting, you know, on moving the kickoff up. They're 101 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.000 voting on a bunch of different things. NFL offseason style. 102 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.879 There's also a news from Ross Dellinger about the current 103 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:11.439 landscape of college football. They could throw an absolute monkey 104 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.079 wrench in the house versu NCAA settlement. We're going to 105 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.879 unpack that on the show today at some point, because 106 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.720 of course we are always one eye on college football 107 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.040 less than one hundred days away. Not sure when we're 108 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.160 starting the countdown. It's my favorite thing, but busy, busy 109 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:28.800 guest list Today. Our first guest will be Lee Ellis, 110 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.040 one of our favorites to talk basketball with. 111 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.199 Lee is from Australia. 112 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.920 Maybe I'll ask Lee if Australia has any football players 113 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:38.439 that our NFL players need to worry about for the 114 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.600 twenty eight Olympics. Tim McMahon NBA Daily Assist Style from ESPN, 115 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.920 Richard Smith live in studio to preview tonight's Action and 116 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.560 Taco Little Jazz Hoops. Then the head coach of Rayal 117 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:53.360 salt Lake, Pablo Mash Johnny will stop by. I'm going 118 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.160 to try to be nice today. Scoring goals would be cool. 119 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.240 Scoring a goal would be cool. It's been almost two 120 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.279 hundred and fifty it's since RSL scored a goal. 121 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.240 They welcome in the best team in Major League Soccer, 122 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:05.920 Vancouver coming up on Saturday. 123 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.399 Lee Elis, Tim McMahon, Richard Smith, Pablo Mash joinning me, 124 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.360 Spence check. It's all of you, the great listeners, and 125 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:15.040 that guy you've already heard from him, Porter Larson. How 126 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.959 did you spend your Monday evening sands any sort of 127 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:20.519 basketball or hockey playoff action. 128 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.120 Yeah, little tennis, a little gardening. As I mentioned on 129 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.240 the way out yesterday, I moved recently and have enough 130 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.600 room to grow my own food, which is very, very cool. 131 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.279 So I'm building a garden. Played some tennis yesterday, but 132 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.079 now we got basketball back. It's one of the rare, 133 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.480 rare days during the spring that we don't have hoops. 134 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:47.560 Were spoiled start of conference tournament time in college basketball 135 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.639 basically into June. We're pretty spoiled with hoops almost almost 136 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:52.560 every day. 137 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.279 Yes indeed, but playoff action returns tonight, both on the 138 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.720 ice and the court, and we're going to preview those 139 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.439 games for you guys today. 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The Western Conference Finals 182 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.399 gets rolling tonight at six thirty Mountain time on ESPN 183 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.639 at Paycom Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Tomorrow it's going 184 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.320 to be the Eastern Conference turn. It will be Nick Celtics, 185 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.559 of course, so excited for that one. Did you know 186 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.759 that the two best teams since March first in the 187 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:06.039 NBA are playing tonight, the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma 188 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.799 City Thunder. Okay See is twenty eight and six since 189 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.759 March first, and the Timberwolves are twenty six and six 190 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.960 since March first. Those are the two best records in 191 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.360 pro basketball since March first. And you know, it's interesting 192 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.399 whether it's Tim McMahon or Dave mcminnimon or any of 193 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.759 our NBA guests, Howard Beck, et cetera, Tim Bontemps throughout 194 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:27.919 the course of the end of the regular season, and 195 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.480 honestly a few weeks prior to that, maybe a couple 196 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.120 of months left in the regular season. 197 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.360 I questioned to all of our guests. Was pretty similar. 198 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:38.799 After Oklahoma City had established themselves as the best team 199 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:42.000 in the West and one of the best regular season 200 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.679 teams historically speaking period, when you look at the net 201 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.919 and look at some of the splits, and I would 202 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:47.519 ask the. 203 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:50.200 Same question, who is keeping Mark Dagnold up that night? 204 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.679 And the answer would vary a little bit depending on 205 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.879 the ebbs and flows of the season, or depending on 206 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.679 you know, acquisitions trades. For instance, when and of course 207 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.559 the Lakers got Luca, a lot of people thought the 208 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:04.639 Lakers were gonna have something to say about the West 209 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:05.039 this year. 210 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:06.960 I did not believe that to be the case. 211 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.960 I will change my view next year when these two 212 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:11.720 have more time to play together, but I just did 213 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.159 not think it was enough time. And then after the 214 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:19.440 trade Mark Davis, the kid from Charlotte, fell through. They 215 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:21.840 just don't have any bigs. They could not play Jackson Hayes. 216 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.039 We're not doing a Lakers breakdown, but a lot of 217 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.039 people thought maybe the Lakers would have something to say 218 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.279 about it. Golden State gets Jimmy Butler, they kind of 219 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.960 change their defensive schematics, and a lot of people thought 220 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.960 maybe Golden State would have something to say about it. 221 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.759 Of course, Minnesota dispatches of Golden State in five games. 222 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.399 Oklahoma City is coming off one day of rest after 223 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.000 dispatching of Denver in a really tough seven game series. 224 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:49.120 Now OKC six and two on one day of rest. 225 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.360 Throughout the course of the postseason. This is a young 226 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.879 team with a bunch of great young players. They go 227 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.919 ten to eleven deep. They could even go deeper that 228 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.360 deeper than that. If I'm honest, I don't think the 229 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.200 lack of rest is going to plague them. On the 230 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:05.399 other side, Minnesota two and four when they have more 231 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.919 than three days of rest, and they have five days 232 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.480 of rest tonight. So it's the old question rest versus 233 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.360 rust what will play out. Oklahoma City is a six 234 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.759 point five point favorite. They're five and one at home 235 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.480 during the playoffs. As our reference, they're twenty eight and 236 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.399 six since March first, which is the best record in 237 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.840 pro basketball. I think there are a lot of really 238 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.360 interesting matchups to watch tonight. We have two of the 239 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:31.080 great young I'll call them Wings, even though SGA is 240 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.759 a primary ball handler for Oklahoma City. Anthony Edwards of course, 241 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.360 really the emerging face of the NBA, probably the best 242 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.360 young domestic player. The best young player still probably is 243 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.080 Luka Doncic, but we have two of the best ball 244 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.759 in hand dynamic wings scorers going out of tonight with 245 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:51.679 the Tea Wolves and the Thunder. The Thunder are not 246 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.720 just a favorite tonight, they are your favorite to win 247 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.360 the series. Minnesota is looking to advance to their first 248 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:01.440 NBA Finals in history. Gone to the NBA Finals I 249 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.080 think they were an expansion team in nineteen eighty eight. 250 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.759 They have never been to the NBA Finals, not one time. 251 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.759 Oklahoma City was last there in twenty twelve. That was 252 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.440 the Durant Westbrook Group of OKC, so that was the 253 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.000 last time they were in the NBA Finals. And of course, 254 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.360 a ton of interesting matchups and a ton of interesting 255 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.399 schematic approaches between these two coaches to really well coached teams, 256 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.000 and Minnesota of course features a lot of former jazz men, 257 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.600 namely Rudy Gobert, four time Defensive Player of the Year. 258 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.279 I wonder if there's a place for Mike Conley in 259 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:37.399 this series. And the only reason I say that is, 260 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.600 you know, Mike is a guard who at this stage 261 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.879 in his career. You know, he was fine being a 262 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.519 smallish guard when he was younger and had more speed, 263 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.720 But now that he's a little bit older, he's been 264 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.679 kind of resigned to like a spot up jump shooter, right, 265 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:53.960 and they try to find Mike for open corner threes. 266 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.120 He will initiate the offense a little bit. But I'm 267 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.240 just afraid with what OKAC has as far as their 268 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.919 dogs on the perimeter. I mean, Shay can really guard 269 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:06.559 Jalen Williams can really guard Alex Caruso's gonna be interesting 270 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:09.720 to see what Mark Dagnall does with Alex Caruso. He 271 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.480 put Carusoe on Jokic Game seven that actually worked. My 272 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.399 guess is are gonna see a healthy amount of Alex 273 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.879 Caruso on Anthony Edwards. Ant is so dynamic that you 274 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.600 have to throw a bunch of different looks at him. 275 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:23.039 But the thing with OKCE is they have the personnel 276 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.120 to do that. You're gonna see Shae on Ant. You'll 277 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:27.879 see Jalen Williams on Ant. I bet you see Alex Caruso, 278 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.919 lou Dort, maybe even a little caseon Wallace even though 279 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:35.399 he's not very big. So Oklahoma City has this grip 280 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.440 of personnel on the wings with big athletics size that 281 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.159 can really cause Ant a lot of problems. But what 282 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.559 makes this interesting is Minnesota has the same thing. So 283 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.080 what do they do with Shae? Because Ant can guard 284 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.919 Jaden McDaniels can guard. My guess is Jaden gets the 285 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.320 primary defensive assignment on SGA, but they'll probably put him 286 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.960 on Jalen Williams as well. I think Go Bear is 287 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.960 gonna be able to neutralize Isaiah Hartenstein that little flow. 288 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:01.919 That's something interesting to watch out for. 289 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.360 These are two really good teams, and we kind of 290 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:08.320 have a sneaky excellent Western Conference Finals matchup because there 291 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.720 aren't any of There's no Golden State, there's no steph 292 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.440 there's no Lebron, there's no Lakers. So I wonder how 293 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.440 many people really fully understand that. Honestly speaking, these are 294 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.600 probably the two most deserving teams in the West, based 295 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:20.120 off of the way. 296 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:21.840 Both these teams have played since March. 297 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.600 Again, Oklahoma City the best team in pro basketball since 298 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.360 March first. The second best team in pro basketball since 299 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.759 March first is the Minnesota Timberwolves, and they do battle tonight. 300 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.440 We'll give you some picks later on a playoff basketball 301 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.440 back in the house this evening, coming up at six thirty. 302 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:39.120 That is your tip. 303 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.080 All right, we're gonna bring in Lee Ellis coming up 304 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.159 in a little bit. But I want to tell you 305 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:45.200 about my friends at Cortland Roofing and I got Corey 306 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.360 joins me live in studio on a Tuesday. Corey, what's 307 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.440 going on man, I'm well, I appreciate the time today, 308 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:51.159 So let's start. 309 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.840 Let's start with the good stuff right away. 310 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.679 Unpack the Spring special because if people need a roof replacement, 311 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.320 they got to call you today because they could save 312 00:14:58.399 --> 00:14:59.840 literally thousands of dollars. 313 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.639 Yeah, so give us a call today. 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All right, let's get a little background. 326 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.240 Tell me about your company, Corey. Yeah, so we're a 327 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:39.360 local company. 328 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:42.039 We're found, we're family owned and operated, and that's that's 329 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.080 important because you get a lot of these out of 330 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:47.840 town companies that aren't even from Utah, especially the ones 331 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.600 that sent out their door knockers, so they just want 332 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.039 to do your roof and then get out of town. 333 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.559 But we're here, local, we're here, we're family owned and operated. 334 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.279 We are a preferred contractor with a lot of the 335 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.159 main manufacturer, so we can offer you the best warranty 336 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:02.759 in the business. 337 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:04.200 We're licensed and insured. 338 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.720 We employ our own crews, and that's important because a 339 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:09.720 lot of times, you know, we're not picking guys up 340 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.799 off the street. We have our own crews that we've 341 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:13.799 had for a long time to do an amazing job. 342 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.919 And so that's a little bit about us. 343 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.879 Anyone who has ever owned a home knows that sometimes 344 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.960 working with homeowners insurance can be shall we say complex, 345 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.879 But you guys kind of help people traverse this space 346 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:26.600 tell us about it. 347 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.159 Yeah, So about seventy to eighty percent of the roofs 348 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.840 we do the insurance companies involved in some ways. So 349 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:33.919 we have a ton of experience when it comes to 350 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.559 the roof with the insurance process, and so we really 351 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.279 help homeowners navigate that and it really starts with an 352 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.480 inspection to see if your roof will even qualify for insurance. 353 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.840 And you know, a couple of weeks ago we had 354 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.440 some high winds fifty mile an hour plus wins that 355 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.440 probably did a lot of damage to roofs. And so 356 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.840 if you're seeing shingles, you know, scattered around your yard, 357 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.200 or if you look up and you see some missing shingles, 358 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.120 or if you even suspect you have some wind damage 359 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.319 or even hell damage, we occasionally get give us a 360 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.200 call at that eight oh one six one five fifty 361 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.400 five six to your go to our website at Courtland 362 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:10.279 Roofing dot com. 363 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:11.640 All right before I say you lose. 364 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:13.640 For this segment, we'll tackle a couple of other things 365 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:15.440 for out the course of the show. Let's review the 366 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.200 spring prom promotion one more time. 367 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:17.519 Corey. 368 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.559 Yeah, so Spring promotion. If you call today, you get 369 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:24.240 fifteen hundred dollars off of a roof replacement. Or if 370 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.359 you're needing new rain gutters, we will do brand new 371 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.720 seamless rain gutters at no charge. 372 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:31.200 All right, guys, today's the day. 373 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:33.400 The weather's about to get really warm, and if you 374 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:35.680 walk outside you look at your roof, you're like, yeah, 375 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:37.079 we need to get that taken care of. You might 376 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.920 as well save thousands of dollars with this great spring 377 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.599 promotion with our friends at Courtland Roofing. 378 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.839 Here's the number. It's eight oh one sixty one five 379 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:45.920 five five six zero. 380 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:46.599 All right. 381 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.519 Tennecband is going to roll by today. Covers the NBA 382 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:53.160 for ESPN NBA Daily Assist Style, Richard Smith live in 383 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.400 studio forty years with the Utah Jazz Front Office. Then 384 00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:59.920 Pablo Master money head coach over Il saw Lake, would 385 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:01.960 you honest later on, but we're batting lead off with 386 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:04.680 one of our favorites, and I'm told he's in the 387 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.319 heart of New York City, in Midtown Manhattan is where 388 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.920 we find our friend Lee Ellis on a Tuesday afternoon. 389 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:11.079 Lee, Happy Tuesday, sir. 390 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:12.720 How are you fine? 391 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:14.240 Thanks Bence, Thanks very much for having me. 392 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.839 How's the how's the weather? How's how are the conditions 393 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:18.680 out in New York City? 394 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.440 Actually beautiful? Really nice sunny day. Not too human as well. 395 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.440 I live in Atlanta, so we're already sinking hot in 396 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.079 the humidity, but it's nice and breezy. The streets are 397 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.960 alive and you can sort of feel, you know, a 398 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:32.960 bit of energy. The Nicks haven't been in a position 399 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.000 like this before, and so I was down at Madison 400 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.200 Square Garden before, and you know, you can sort of 401 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.319 tell everyone's pretty excited and looking forward to Game one 402 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:40.880 tomorrow night. 403 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.440 Oh, I've got the forecast up. It does look lovely 404 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:44.400 in Midtown Manhattan. 405 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:44.759 Good for you. 406 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.319 So you reference that you can kind of feel the 407 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.119 buzz in the city. Are Are you noticing people wearing 408 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.400 Nick jerseys and hats and such? Are you are you 409 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.039 seeing a lot of Nick paraphernalia out about New York? 410 00:18:58.960 --> 00:18:59.160 Yeah? 411 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.279 Absolutely, even one Devin Booker Sun's jersey, which sort of 412 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:06.200 slid outs me a little bit. But other than that, yeah, 413 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.240 I mean again, just the energy around the garden there, 414 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:12.319 you know, just before, like everyone's sort of excited and 415 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:13.799 they can't wait for it to happen here tomorrow. And 416 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:15.880 I because, as I said, they just haven't been in 417 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.519 this position, this far into the playoffs for so long. 418 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:20.559 And not only that, but I think they are a 419 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:23.640 real chance too because you know, I don't think anyone 420 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.519 realistically had them beating the Celtics, and they did that 421 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.640 quite comfortably and quite impressively. And now they go from having, 422 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.799 you know, go from being underdog in the conference semifinals 423 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.839 to being favorite in the finals. So it's quite a 424 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.960 remarkable position that the Knicks find themselves in right now. 425 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:45.359 You know, Lee the last team to win a championship 426 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.319 with a ball dominant, smallish guard as the best player 427 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.720 really was Detroit back in the Isaiah Thomas you know, 428 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.240 nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty nine days. And that's who 429 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.559 the Necks are now. It's not just Jalen, but if 430 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.920 we're honest, he really is the engine that makes them go. 431 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:05.480 What stands out most to you about how Jalen Brunson 432 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.079 has answered every question that's been thrown at him. A 433 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:12.039 lot of people, as you probably recall, were very skeptical 434 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:14.039 that the next decided to go all in on him, 435 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.240 and I'll admit that he's better than I ever thought 436 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:17.640 he could be. 437 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.960 What stands out most to you about his growth, I think. 438 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.480 It's that continual clutch performances. If you go back to 439 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.200 the Piston series, he'd really deliver it on the road 440 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.640 in Detroit. He closed out that series with a huge three. 441 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.079 Remember they were down seven or eight points with about 442 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.799 a minute ago in Game six and Brunton stepped up 443 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:35.400 and knocked down the shot. And then the same thing 444 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.519 in the Celtics series. And again I've got to give 445 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.079 so much respect and admiration to sib Tom Thibodeaux and 446 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.200 the entire team because they were getting smoked by the 447 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.720 Celtics in that second round, you know, down twenty in 448 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.960 three games and came back and won. And so it's 449 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:52.359 not like that. You know, that can happen once and 450 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.119 you can say that was an anomaly, but then when 451 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:55.680 it happens a couple of times, and then when it 452 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:58.160 goes back to the other previous series, it's like this 453 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.200 team has got some real resilience and some real spine 454 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.519 to them. And it starts with Brunson because he's never 455 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.119 afraid to take the shot. He's never afraid to put 456 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.240 the ball in his hands. He's had some really good 457 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.119 defenders on him too. I start Thompson while only young, 458 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.039 very athletic, very fast, and you know, we've right up 459 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.480 in Brunson's grill a lot. And then the Celtics have 460 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.000 multiple guys they can throw it in, Jalen Brown and 461 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:23.079 Derek White, you know, all those goes through Holidays another one, 462 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:27.119 really good high quality defenders. But every time Brunson has 463 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.079 a chance, he wants the ball in his hands. And 464 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:31.119 sometimes he makes the right pass, sometimes he hits the 465 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.640 right shot. He doesn't, you know, nail every shot, but 466 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:36.440 I like the fact that he doesn't, you know, miss 467 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:38.039 the shot, and then all of a sudden go into 468 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:40.839 his shell. He won't be afraid of missing a shot. 469 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.880 He just wants to take it because that's what they 470 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:44.559 employ him to do. That's what he's paid to do. 471 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:46.519 And he was the clutch player of the Year in 472 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.039 the regular season, and then he's gone on and proven. 473 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:49.960 That in the playoffs. 474 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:51.839 So you know, this is why I'm sort of in 475 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:53.519 this position now where I look at the Knicks and 476 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.960 I think they haven't you know, they didn't get lucky 477 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.880 in the playoffs. Now the Pistons, of course, weren't that experience. 478 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.200 Then they had to go out and beat the defending 479 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:03.960 champs on the road, and they did that so well. 480 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.319 And now even if they get down big, it's like 481 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:09.200 they've got guys who can get them back into it. 482 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.160 Mcale bridges his offense in the last quarters has been 483 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.680 really good. Karl Anthony Towns has been, you know good 484 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:16.640 most of the time. He's had a few down games, 485 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.279 but they've got options, they've got weapons, and then when 486 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.200 the game is there to be won, the ball goes 487 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.920 into Brunton's hands every time, and everyone on that team 488 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.039 is confident he's going to make the right decision. So 489 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.079 I think that comparison to Isaiah Thomas is actually very, 490 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.960 very good because they're about the same size. You know, 491 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:36.039 they're tough, they're resilience, and now Brunton has got, you know, 492 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.720 a catalog of big shots to sort of prove that 493 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:40.720 he's up to the moment. 494 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.039 So away from Jalen and even Kat for a moment 495 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.400 because I think it's safe to say more often than 496 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:49.799 not those two. Certainly, Jalen's going to get his, and 497 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:56.480 you know, Kat has a complex and kind of varied 498 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:57.920 history and big games. 499 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:00.680 There's some good, some bad, and you know kind of 500 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:01.359 the way it goes. 501 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.759 But the three headed monster on the wing, you know 502 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.119 some of Cal Bridges, who they traded five first round 503 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.119 picks for Josh Hart, who I kind of feel like 504 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.000 is the heart beats I didn't even mean to do 505 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:14.720 that of that team. And then you know og Is, 506 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.920 even though you know at times the shot can get loose, 507 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.559 he was so good against the Wings for the Celtics 508 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.079 and the playoffs and has been one of the best 509 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.119 perimeter defenders in the NBA all year long. So what 510 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:27.799 do you make of what they need to get from 511 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.039 those three against the pacer team that just has a 512 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.559 bunch of pit bulls and they want to fight everybody. 513 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:35.279 Well, they can all. 514 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.160 Defend, like you mentioned there, they're all sort of Tom 515 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.640 Thibodeau guys. You know, they know that they're expected to 516 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:42.680 put in on the defensive end primarily, and they do that, 517 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.640 but all of them can also hit those threes, which 518 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.880 is really the modern game. The way it is, you 519 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.559 need to be able to shoot, and you need to 520 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:51.920 be able to at least be relied on to knockdown 521 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.440 some shots. Now, some games you might have Josh hart 522 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.319 John for twenty five or thirty points, scort Og, even 523 00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:59.720 Bridget can get that. It's usually not all three of them, 524 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.480 but as usually they almost rotate that around, which is again, 525 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.200 it's great for the Knicks because they've got options and 526 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:07.000 they know they're going to get it out mostly of 527 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:09.480 one of those guys every game. Now, when I look 528 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.359 at Bridges, I don't love his shot selection at times, 529 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.359 and I don't love his shooting mechanics, but he's effective. 530 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.839 And again he did that really well in fourth quarters 531 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.799 against the Boston Celtics. So you know, I don't think 532 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.279 the Knicks are super deep, but they've got by. If 533 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.079 you throw in Mitchell Robinson and Douci Guide, they've got 534 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.039 seven players pretty much is the length of the rotation, 535 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.160 but all of them go out there and contribute primarily 536 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.799 on the defensive end. McBride is not as good as 537 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.240 those guys, but certainly Mitchell Robinson is as well. So 538 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.480 everyone who plays, you know, you just sort of know 539 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.200 that that's what Tom Diibberdeau is looking for firstly, can 540 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.839 you go out there and defend more than one position? 541 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.559 And pretty much all of those guys can, so, you know, 542 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.279 the Paces, this is a really interesting matchup because the 543 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:53.039 Paces have got so many guys as well who can 544 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.200 go and get their own bucket. You know, Pascal Siakham 545 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.759 and Tyrese Haliburton. You know Niece Smith's been shooting the 546 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.519 ball really well from three, and then Myles as well. 547 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.920 He's going to spread the floor. So everyone's kind of 548 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.519 got a good matchup. Everyone can kind of hurt each other. 549 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:07.519 And that's why I think we're really set up for 550 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.240 a great series here because it should be tough, it 551 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.519 should be tight, but honestly, we should see some really good, 552 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.400 high quality basketball because you're going to see defense from 553 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.799 both ins. And I think that's the word I keep 554 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:20.559 coming back to you because for so long when the 555 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.799 Knicks stunk, they just were bad defensively. And I think 556 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.759 now Tom Thibodeau has finally got to that point where 557 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.359 he's been able to implement his style and everyone's brought 558 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.440 into it and everyone understands what their job is and 559 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.240 now we're seeing the results of that you know. 560 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:34.920 It's interesting. 561 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.559 One more thing on the nickt and I do want 562 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.880 to ask you about the Pacers specifically, because they deserve 563 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:40.559 a lot of credit for what they've been doing. And 564 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.440 you know, I've known Tom Thibodeau for a number of years. 565 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:45.480 He was an assistant in New York for Jeff Van Gundy, 566 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.640 and I certainly respect the man. But when you're up 567 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.599 one hundred and ten to seventy four with five minutes 568 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.839 left in the fourth, isn't it time to pull your players? 569 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.160 Well, yes, that's the one area that I think care 570 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.119 And you know I've noticed because I've been a a 571 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.119 lot of the Knicks game, certainly here in the playoffs 572 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.039 and in the regular season. I saw it too when 573 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.880 when the Knicks are in Atlanta, Rick Brunson is often 574 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.480 the guy who has to go up and say to him, 575 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.880 come on, this is enough enough, because you know, it's 576 00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.200 the one stubborn trait that Tibbs has that he's still 577 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.599 is very reluctant to give up. And that is to 578 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.279 you know, basically acknowledge when a game is in hand. 579 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.960 And you know, if you go back to last season 580 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.480 in the playoffs, you know Jalen Brunson broke down and 581 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.319 if you go back to when he's in the Chicago 582 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.039 Bulls day, Joki Noah still talks about it on podcasts now, 583 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.440 like those guys you know, got ran into the ground 584 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.839 by Tibbs and so I think he has loosened up 585 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.680 a little over the years, but he still could improve 586 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.160 on that. Because I was watching that the other night 587 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.440 with the closeout game, and Tad was on the bench 588 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:49.759 and they were up, you know, shirt whatever it was, 589 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.519 and he came back in and I was like, what 590 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.079 are you doing. You're just playing with fire at this point. 591 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.960 But fortunately everyone survived and you know, by closing it 592 00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.640 out in six, they've got an extra couple of days 593 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.680 of rest. But yeah, it's one of those things that 594 00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.880 I think Gibbs still needs to really work on. 595 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.559 So Lee, as you know, the Cleveland Cavaliers, led by 596 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.400 our old buddy Donovan Mitchell, had a historic regular season, 597 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.000 and you know, the favorites to play in the Eastern 598 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.559 Conference Finals were the Calves and the Celtics. We've already 599 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.000 discussed the next beating Boston, and I'm sure if you're 600 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.880 a Calves fan you can lean into we weren't fully 601 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.799 healthy Donovan go saw him after the second round once again, 602 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.160 and of course it's not all his fault when he 603 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.319 is really cooking, he's as dynamic as any ball in 604 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.920 hand offensive generator in the league. Now, I do think 605 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.279 and I've always believed this because I saw it out 606 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.720 here when Donovan tends to put blinders on and do 607 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.680 his own thing, while it's really dynamic and very effective, 608 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.839 I just I've never believed that's conducive to winning team 609 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.119 basketball because other teammates kind of get a little bit 610 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.480 in the mode where they're watching him do his thing 611 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.200 and they're not boxing out, they're not playing defense where 612 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.759 they need to. I've always been more of a fan 613 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.640 of a team overall approach, but Indiana deserves a lot 614 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.240 of credit. And I found it really interestingly after the 615 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.319 final game to hear Kenny Atkinson just admit like they're 616 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.160 a level ahead of us, They're they're better than we 617 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.880 are right now, and Rick Carlisle echo like it was 618 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.519 interesting to hear him say, we're just on fire, We're 619 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.240 just we've got it clicking at the right time. So 620 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.240 what stands out most to you about the way the 621 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.519 Pacers beat the Calves and if you're a Cavs fan, 622 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.200 what are you hoping for this offseason? 623 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.000 Yeah? Well, I think with the Pacers, they kind of 624 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.960 snuck up on pretty much everyone because they started off 625 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.240 the season badly, and Tyrese Halliburton was bad and maybe 626 00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.440 there was a bit of an Olympic hangover for him. 627 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.880 But I think we sort of saw We saw the 628 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.200 Pacers in the conference finals last year they got swept, 629 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.079 and the way they started this season was like, oh, 630 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.119 maybe they aren't that good. But their record closing the 631 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.559 season was forty two and fourteen, so they've been playing 632 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.799 really well. But because the Celtics and the Caves and 633 00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:59.960 the Knicks were so far ahead of them, I think 634 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.640 everyone just thought we'd go on Boston and Cleveland in 635 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.559 the Eastern Conference finals here and didn't really give anyone 636 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:06.839 else much of a chance. 637 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:07.759 But you're right. 638 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.920 I mean, Rick Carlyle, you know, he's a pretty good coach, 639 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.359 and you know, he's a pretty consistent coach. He might 640 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.799 not be, you know, the most charismatic coach out there, 641 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.079 but he certainly gets guys to play to a high level. 642 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.160 And that's what I noticed about the Pacers is once 643 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.079 tyri Is Haliburton got to go on because he wasn't 644 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.480 an All Star this season, but he certainly picked his 645 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.599 game up in the second half of the season. But 646 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.920 also guys like Nemhard and Nie Smith, as I mentioned earlier, 647 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.720 really really important role players. You know, they can hit 648 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.799 those threes, you know, they play hard defense, they don't 649 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.400 need the ball in their hands all that much. And 650 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.000 then patcal Siakam, who was an All Star this season, 651 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.480 he was also fantastic in the second part. So Indiana 652 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.160 had one of those seasons that was pretty much idea 653 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.279 where people were overlooking you and dismissing him, and then 654 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.640 they come into the playoffs and they cruise along, you know, 655 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.880 and they beat the Bucks, who you know, Lillard obviously 656 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.200 was banged up somewhat there, but even if he wasn't, 657 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.079 I think the pa Is still win that series. And 658 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.799 then yeah, the you know, it was called an upset 659 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:06.720 because they took down the Cleveland cattle Is, but they've 660 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.559 beat the Cash three to one in the regular season, 661 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.160 so it's probably not that much of an upset really. 662 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.799 It was more just that the Pacers matched up well. 663 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.960 There was some injury concerns of course there with the Cavs, 664 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.799 but I think that was really only for one game 665 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.799 when Mobiley Hunter and Garland were out. Garland mister Thurst 666 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.119 game though as well. But ultimately we saw, Yeah, you know, 667 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.720 Donovan is a great playoff performer. You know, he's had 668 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.440 some huge moments, but he hasn't been able to turn 669 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.519 those into playoff success. He's never gone past the second round. 670 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.440 So there is something that's not quite working there that 671 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.000 even if Donovan goes for forty I think he finished 672 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.200 averaging forty one in that series, but what good is 673 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.160 that if you're lose in five games? You know. So 674 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.759 the Cabs a really disappointing end to a very promising 675 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.880 season and where they go and the off season from 676 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.440 here now, I don't think they make too many changes 677 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.160 because I think overall they probably just look back at 678 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.359 what they did wrong and they think, Okay, you know, 679 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.400 we need to have made some improvements from within, because overall, 680 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.880 I think they've got a good roster. Evan Mobley defensive 681 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.400 Player of the Year. Donovan We've already talked about him, 682 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.680 and Darius was an All Star this year. Jared Allen 683 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.240 has been an All Star. You know, they're well balanced. 684 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.319 They've got three point shooting. They picked up DeAndre Hunter 685 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.240 for their six man at the trade deadline here, so 686 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.640 that you know they've got all the peoples. Maybe it 687 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.079 was just one of those seasons where you know, they 688 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.599 were caught looking ahead a little bit and thought that 689 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.559 they sort of leave their own height where it was like, hey, 690 00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.319 we're going straight back to the conference finals here, and 691 00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.680 you know, didn't really give the Paces the respect they deserve. 692 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.160 Kenny Atkinson remember, Coach of the Year, well deserving as well. 693 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.000 I mean he I thought I saw, you know, watching 694 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.599 the Cavs this season, they were a lot like those 695 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.200 Brooklyn Nets teams that Kenny Atkinson had. Remember, they were 696 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.160 fun to watch. They really seemed to be all on 697 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.599 the same page and cheering each other on. And it 698 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.720 felt like, you know, the Cavs were on the path 699 00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.440 here to the conference finals before before sort of you 700 00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.559 know that they couldn't quite get it done there in 701 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.039 the conference. So very interesting season. 702 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:03.400 Again. 703 00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.559 I don't think they'll decide to blow it up or 704 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.640 anything like that. I think they'll just try to take 705 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.319 care of business a little bit better next season, because 706 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.400 overall a lot of their guys are under contract. I 707 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.279 think they're a better team than they performed in the playoffs, 708 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.960 and maybe sometimes a loss like this can actually help 709 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.279 you in the future. So we'll find out that, you know, 710 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:26.079 Indiana again, they the way they ended the season was 711 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.759 just so impressive that they find themselves in this position. 712 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.119 And I think, you know, a lot of people around 713 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.240 the league may see as a surprise, but I don't 714 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.920 think the Indiana Pacers themselves are all that surprise that 715 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.119 they're in this position. 716 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.599 Moving out this way, Lee, I was surprised to learn 717 00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.200 this morning when I was doing a little reading a 718 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.440 prep for the show, that the two best records in 719 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.960 pro basketball since March first belonged to Oklahoma City, who 720 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.839 has the best record, and then the Minnesota Timberwolves, who 721 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.720 have the second best record. Let's start with the Minnesota 722 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:57.839 side of things, and this is a team that's been 723 00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.640 together now for a few years, and they had a 724 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.119 nice little playoff run last year. Of course, you need 725 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.720 good fortune in the NBA playoffs, and you always had injuries. 726 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.799 It was a bumber to see Tatum go down. And 727 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.400 nobody wants to watch Golden's Day without watching Stephen Curry. 728 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.799 But Minnesota won't apologize. What do you make of their 729 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.799 route to the Western Conference Finals. 730 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.079 What stands out, Yeah, honestly a little bit like the 731 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.519 Paces in that when they made that trade at the 732 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.079 start of the season for Towns, you know, trading him away. 733 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.279 I thought that was a bad move. 734 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.279 I thought Towns has been there, they're finally having some success, 735 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.440 and then they blow it up. I think for a 736 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:36.400 weaker move in bringing Devincenzo and Julius Randall. But after 737 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.160 that sluggish start, and remember they had to basically win 738 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:40.839 on the last day of the season just to avoid 739 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.960 the play in, they've really gotten together and been super impressive. 740 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.319 And I think Chris Finch deserves a lot of credit 741 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.160 because he's got them playing at this high level where 742 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.200 they were really convincing against the Warriors. Of course you 743 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.880 mentioned no Steph Curry, but even still they lost that 744 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.599 first came remember at home when Steph left early on, 745 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.240 so there was more that pressure of expectation like, oh, 746 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.880 you can't lose possibly now to the Warriors without Steph. 747 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.240 And they went out and won the next four games. 748 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.920 And Anthony Edwards, I mean, he's ready, he's ready for 749 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.039 the hype. 750 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:11.000 He loves being the. 751 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.679 Center of attention, and he's gone out there and delivered. 752 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.199 And so you know, last season against the Mavericks, I 753 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.320 saw Anthony Edwards on a podcast somewhere basically just sort 754 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.760 of shaking his head at what Luca was able to do. 755 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.519 But you could sort of see that fight in the 756 00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.679 eyes of Edwards in the way that he spoke was 757 00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.960 like he wasn't feeling sorry for himself. Instead he realized 758 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.119 what it took to get to the next level. And 759 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.480 so now he's back here, and I think last season, 760 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.079 of course, with Team USA in Paris, he showed, you know, 761 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.760 he learned from those guys like Kevin Durant and like 762 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.239 Steph and Lebron. Being around those guys really helped him 763 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.360 understand how important it is to take care of your 764 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.880 body and to be ready and to embrace those moments 765 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.039 when they come. So, you know, really good stuff here 766 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.000 from the Timberwolves. I mean, you guys of course know 767 00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.639 Rudy very well there in Utah as well. I mean, 768 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.159 he has been at times, you know, he sort of 769 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.519 fluctuates a little bit, but when he's good, he's very 770 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.079 very good. And you know, Rudy's he's been in the 771 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.840 playoffs a lot. He's an experienced veteran and he plays 772 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:12.719 such a role and he's going to have a huge 773 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.280 role in this series now against the Thunder because they 774 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.960 have the big guys chet, Holmgren and Hartenstein. So he's 775 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.159 going to have his work cut out for him. But 776 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.800 as we saw again against the Warriors, if you are 777 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.000 able to really utilize Rudy on the offensive end, I 778 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.360 think he grows even more on the defensive end and 779 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.760 there'll be opportunities there for him. And you know, the 780 00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.440 Timberwolves are ready. I think they're in a really good spot. 781 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.119 It's going to be a great series. I mean, obviously 782 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.519 the Sunder have the best records, so they start at 783 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:41.280 home and they were great, but they closed out their 784 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.239 series only what two days ago? So does that favor 785 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.440 you know, is rhythm more important than rest? Will find 786 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.320 out because usually that's what the what the result of 787 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.599 game one is that if the Thunder winners like see, 788 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.960 you better to be a rhythm. If the Wolves winners 789 00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.880 like see an extra couple of days, rest away out. 790 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.280 So there's no science if a proof of either answer, 791 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.960 but it should be a fascinating game one either way. 792 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.159 Makes you wonderly what a team would look like with 793 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.800 Donovan Mitchell Rudy Gobert and their prime and a Mike 794 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.800 Conley maybe and maybe a Joe Ingles. 795 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:12.719 And it makes you wonder what that team would look like. 796 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.679 Yeah, it does, it does. 797 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.159 And you know, the Atlanta Hawks coach Queen's Knight is 798 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:19.320 a pretty good coach too, so I wonder how he 799 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:20.599 would go with those sort of guys. 800 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:21.320 Yes he is. 801 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.519 And before I say you loose, I will take advantage 802 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.239 of the space just to ask you about the Jazz 803 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.760 because you know, ultimately it's tough to see any forward 804 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.039 progress at this point, and this will be four years 805 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.000 coming up since they made the decision to break that 806 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.480 team down. We all gather around our television to watch 807 00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.719 the NBA Draft lottery and we all felt like we 808 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.639 were punched in the gut when they fell to five. 809 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.960 But what do you make of where we find ourselves 810 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:45.440 around here? 811 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.840 Before I set you loose with this rebuild that hasn't 812 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.320 really brought a lot of hope to the fan base yet, well, 813 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:51.719 all I. 814 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.360 Will say, and I'll just preface this by saying, I'm 815 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.280 not a draft expert, but I've heard and from what 816 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.079 I read and understand, it's a fairly deep draft. So 817 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.559 I think you could still get a very good player 818 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.920 there at number five, but obviously the sites were set 819 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.039 much higher. I mean, when you have a guy like 820 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.440 Cooper Flagg, who's been the number one pick all season, 821 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.920 that's the sort of you know, franchise altering player that 822 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.400 you would ultimately hope to get your hands on. Now 823 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.039 he goes to the Dallas Public somehow. I don't know 824 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.519 how that happened, but it did, and the Jazz fall back. 825 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.159 So yeah, it's taking a little bit longer. And you know, look, 826 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.599 Dannie Angels is acquiring a lot of draft capital, so 827 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.960 you expect to see some move here soon. But I 828 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.360 know it's frustrating. I lived in Toronto for nine years 829 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.559 and when your team sort of, you know, year in 830 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.159 year out, feels like they're either rebuilding or they're you know, 831 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.679 waiting for the next draft or the next season, it 832 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.880 becomes pretty frustrating because it doesn't have to. 833 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.360 Be like that. 834 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.239 You know, things don't always necessarily turn around after one 835 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.239 or two seasons. But when it gets up to that 836 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.000 four and five mark, you're just like, come on, man, 837 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.679 do something here. We want to see some wins again here. 838 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.119 We don't want to be continually looking down the road 839 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.599 at the next you know, two three fourths seasons away, 840 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.079 So I get the frustration, but I will say, I 841 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.880 mean Utah when they're playing well, it's it's one of 842 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:11.000 the most fascinating home court advantages I think in the league. 843 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.239 I talked to Quinn Snyder a lot about this this 844 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.559 year when I was down at Hawks games, and you know, 845 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.559 he said, like that home ground, that home court there 846 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.920 was so important for you know, you know, securing home 847 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.800 court in the in the playoffs, and so you know, 848 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:26.960 he knows what it's like. And as a fan, I've 849 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.000 never been to Utah, but I've seen it, and I 850 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.119 think and I hope the Jazz fans that it's not 851 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.480 too long before we see that environment again, because it 852 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.599 is certainly one of the most exciting to watch for 853 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:38.719 fans on TV. 854 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.320 Got some good pickup hoops out here, Lee, you should 855 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.119 make your way out of here before I set you loose. 856 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.239 Tell all of our listeners where they can go find 857 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:45.599 your work. 858 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.440 Yeah, just on the socials. My name Lee ls L 859 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.960 E I G H E L L I S I 860 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.800 mean New York City for these games. I'll be in 861 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.159 Indiana for the for the entire series. I'll be where 862 00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.159 however long it goes. So if anyone is in New York, 863 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.440 I may hit up the rock A Park on Thursday 864 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.000 to shoot around and have some fun up there, and 865 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.400 then they happen Indiana the same thing I'll be. I'll 866 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.599 looking for a few outdoor courts to play on while 867 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.239 I'm out there, So hopefully if there's any fans listening, 868 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.840 they can hit me up and we'll connect and have 869 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:14.400 some fun. 870 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.920 Thank you, sir, always a pleasure, save travels and we'll 871 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.840 do it again anytime. 872 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:19.400 Thanks for having me. 873 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.159 Spence, the Great Lee ellis one of the nice guys 874 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.800 in this business. I always appreciate his time. We're gonna 875 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:26.599 bring in Tim McMahon coming up on the other side. 876 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.360 But before we catch a break, we welcome in my 877 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.320 guy Corey from Courtland Roofing once again. 878 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:32.840 Corey, Happy Tuesday, man. How are you doing. 879 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:33.599 Yeah, I'm doing great. 880 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:34.639 How are you, Spence? I'm well. 881 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:36.679 So give us a little background on your company. Let's 882 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.280 start there. Tell us about Courtland Roofing. 883 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.519 Yeah, so, Cortland Roofing. We've been around for over twenty years. 884 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.280 We're family owned and operated. We're here local, we're licensed 885 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.800 and insured. We employ our own crews, and so that's 886 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.719 a little bit about us. 887 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.880 Well, I was thinking about this during the break. 888 00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.320 It's nice today, it's about to get insanely hot. If 889 00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.400 somebody's out there questioning whether or not they need their 890 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.519 roof for play, why is it important to do this 891 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:02.920 before we're dealing with the summer. 892 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.960 Yeah, so obviously you want to nip it in the 893 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.280 bud right now. Where if you do have some roofing damage, 894 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:11.760 or if you notice some shingles missing or shingles in 895 00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:13.960 the yard, you want to get get us out there 896 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.360 to take a look and to inspect the roof because 897 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.480 obviously the next problem is the roof leaking it going 898 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.519 into the house, and that's really where the price tag 899 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.599 goes up. So you know, do we offer free inspections 900 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.719 and we'll come out do a free inspection, take a 901 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.079 look at the roof, let you know how much life 902 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.480 has left or if there is any type of damage. 903 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.079 We can help you out with filing an insurance claim 904 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.880 or just getting a repair done. 905 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.280 I noticed that you only have five star Google reviews, 906 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.480 so people obviously appreciate the way you go about your 907 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.400 business because you have zero reviews. 908 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.239 That aren't sparkling, right, Yeah, so don't take our word 909 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:52.559 for it. Go to go google Courtland Roofing and take 910 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.920 a look at our reviews. 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If you are in need of new rain gutters, 923 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.199 we'll do We'll do free rank free seamless rain gutters 924 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.519 for a new roof replacement as well. 925 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:32.519 All right, there you go. 926 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.400 So if you are questioning whether or not you need 927 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.159 your roof replaced, you might as well call Courtland Roofing 928 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.480 today get this done, because you're gonna save it grip 929 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.320 of money and it's limited time. It's their Spring special, 930 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.800 So here's the number. Pick up the phone and dial 931 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:48.440 eight oh one six one five five five six zero. 932 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.800 That's eight oh one six one five five five six zero. 933 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.760 Eight oh one six one five five five six zero. 934 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.920 Also online at Cortland roofing dot com. 935 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:05.920 Fan McMahon and Banman that is duding old Land, Texas 936 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.000 flood as it gets mud. 937 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:09.599 He's a man. 938 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:16.119 Fan nimaon Banman the Man Man. 939 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.559 It is a Tuesday on the program. You know what 940 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:29.079 that means. 941 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.639 It's time for our weekly conversation with the legend himself, 942 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.119 star of every ESPN and quite frankly TNT broadcast. I'm 943 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.199 watching out this way, Tim McMahon. A lot of TV 944 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:40.920 phace time for our guy these days. 945 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:41.920 Tim, how you doing, buddy? 946 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.280 Oh hey, partners, I want to go just kind of 947 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.719 scroll the court. Uh, you know, I'm getting ready for 948 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.039 this Western Conference finals. And now they decided to do 949 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.519 a sound check, decided to retweet back to the bowels 950 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:54.599 of the pay Calm Center. 951 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:55.679 I see, I see. 952 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.280 I had a friend text me the other day and said, 953 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.480 is Tim intentionally played himself where he knows he can 954 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.320 get the most camera time on these games? 955 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:04.719 So I just have to ask you that right out 956 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:05.119 of the gates. 957 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.480 Well, listen, I like those court side seats. I'm getting 958 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.000 squeezed out of them tonight, you know, Western Conference Finals. 959 00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.039 You got all these other folks coming in NBA folks 960 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.039 taking my seat. So I'm gonna I think I still 961 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:18.519 got a good one. But I'm all from the corner. 962 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:20.559 I won't be right behind the visiting coach where you 963 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:21.639 get a lot of good airtime. 964 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:22.639 Okay, fair enough. 965 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.440 I will take advantage of you on the show today, 966 00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:28.760 not literally, but I will take advantage of the time 967 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.119 to ask you about the Jazz, even though I know 968 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.840 there's not a lot to talk about. There's just a 969 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.320 ton of reports that after falling to five, they are 970 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.920 going to try to be bold and maybe potentially move up. 971 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:41.480 Who in front of them, Tim, do you think is 972 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.639 most likely to trade their pick and you think the 973 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.039 Jazz can get involved. 974 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.960 Well, I think most likely would be san Antonio. But 975 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.239 I think if san Antono is trading that pick, it's 976 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.800 probably an Yannis type of package. It will not be 977 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.400 the Mavericks. Number one is not available. Aside from that, 978 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.880 I could really probably see any of those other teams 979 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.960 willing to discuss because look, my understanding of this strap. 980 00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.960 I'm by no means of draft Bee. I watched maybe 981 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.000 a total of three or four hours of college basketball 982 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.679 this year, perhaps not true about five or six anyways, 983 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:23.440 Cooper fly clear cut number one, UH, number two, Harper, 984 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.199 Dylan Harper, and then kind of the conversation as far 985 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.239 as you know, buging now of the Beholder probably starts 986 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.079 at number three. So I think especially you know, three 987 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.159 or four I think could be up for grabs if 988 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:41.280 the Jazz are willing to obviously incentivize that they've got 989 00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.760 a tough future picks to play with, you know, extra 990 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.920 picks to play with. You know, I don't know if 991 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.239 there's you know, with I don't know with Philly honestly 992 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:56.679 taking Paul George, who might be considered to be appealing. So, 993 00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.719 you know, we'll see what happens. I think there's a 994 00:44:58.760 --> 00:44:59.920 lot of things that are possibility. 995 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.519 Have you been able to connect with anybody over here 996 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.159 about their thoughts on, you know, falling to five and 997 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:11.039 their thoughts on being in a position, UH to potentially 998 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.760 try to be bold based off of all the assets 999 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.079 they have. Do you have any any idea tim where 1000 00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.559 the head is at of the Utah Jazz front office 1001 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:18.920 right now. 1002 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.360 Well, listen, obviously very disappointed to fall to five, but 1003 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.639 also fully understanding that was statistically the most likely of 1004 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.039 any scenario. I mean, there was like a forty eight 1005 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.199 percent chance they ended up with number five take and 1006 00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:38.079 only fourteen percent chance of number one. And so you know, 1007 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.719 we'll see what that means in terms of aggressivenessess as 1008 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.559 far as moving up what this summer looks like. But 1009 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.800 you know, I did talk to somebody who basically basically 1010 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.320 indicated to me that, hey, tankings are really risky strategy 1011 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.840 with the lottery odds flattened, and you know, there's a 1012 00:45:56.119 --> 00:46:00.000 there's discussions that need to be had about the rationale 1013 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.119 for tanking versus the risk of ending up in this 1014 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.320 scenario and really the challenges that come along with real 1015 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.840 player development when quote unquote player development's your priority. 1016 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.239 We learned this year that nobody's off limits. I mean, hell, 1017 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.880 if Luca can be traded, anybody could be traded. But 1018 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.199 do you think the Jazz would actively shop. You know, 1019 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.559 I'm gonna throw market In and Kessler out there, because honestly, 1020 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.480 I think those are the only two players that I 1021 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.119 would say have proven to be here for the long haul. 1022 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.719 Do you think they would be on the table potentially, 1023 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.079 and maybe the Jazz just go all in on being 1024 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.920 really young and kind of starting the clock. 1025 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.920 Now, Well, I think you're asking two different things. Would 1026 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.719 they actively shop or would they be on the table. 1027 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.079 I'm not sure about actively shop. I think anything is 1028 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.000 on the table. I mean Traden Lowry marketing in and 1029 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.239 trading Walker Tesler was on the table for the Jazz 1030 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.239 last summer. They were just asking for, you know, an 1031 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.960 extreme premium type of price, and like there's a lot 1032 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.719 to talk about marketing and the Warriors. Nothing ever got 1033 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.119 close because not only were the Warriors not including Brandon 1034 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.719 Pajevski in any conversations, which is a deal killer, but 1035 00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:13.199 they weren't willing to go all in on the picks, 1036 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:17.719 and the Jazz wanted ed things. Look, could those kind 1037 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.119 of conversations be restarted? Sure, I could see that again. 1038 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:26.159 I think Kessler they were asking for a lot last summer, 1039 00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:29.440 and given the circumstances, I thought he had a really 1040 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:34.280 really good season, only adding to his value. My guess 1041 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.360 is they will both be in Utah next season. But 1042 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.920 I don't think it's a certainly by any stretch of 1043 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:40.599 the imagination. 1044 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.599 One more thing here, Tim, your buddy Bobby Mark sopped 1045 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.320 on yesterday and did an excellent job of outlining just 1046 00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.199 how we have entered this era of parody in the NBA. 1047 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.199 It's a topic that's been discussed quite a bit. You've 1048 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:56.960 got you guys have dug into it on the hoof 1049 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.559 collective and you know, the markets like cities like ours 1050 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.400 have star players championships on Milwaukee, Denver, and then we 1051 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.159 have Indianapolis, Minnesota and Okay, seeing the conference finals and 1052 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.199 I just feel like, and Bobby was great with this. 1053 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.239 You know, the new CBA expires in twenty thirty, so 1054 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.159 that's a five year runway. It just kind of adds 1055 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:19.039 a little bit of sting around here that the Jazz 1056 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.960 aren't ready to capitalize on this landscape that seems to 1057 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.800 be built for a city like Salt Lake and a 1058 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:24.639 team like the Jazz. 1059 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.559 Yeah, and I hear what you're saying, And I would 1060 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.519 just remind you that the Jazz just and we can 1061 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:35.079 debate the semantics of contender, right sure, but I'm going 1062 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.679 to say the Jazz just had a pretty long chapter 1063 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.760 as a contender that closed. You know, they're trying to 1064 00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.079 open up a new one. It feels a million miles 1065 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.880 away right now, but you know, it's not that long 1066 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.320 ago that that Rudy and Donovan or there in Utah 1067 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.360 on a team that you felt like had a chance 1068 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.119 that just never was able to get over the hump. 1069 00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.960 You know, could never break through. But you know, had 1070 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.639 the best record and was the best run in the 1071 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.199 NBA that year. Ye, So you know, again it's not 1072 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.960 like it's just been eons and eons of the jazz 1073 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.199 out in the wilder and if they had a chance, 1074 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.480 you know, they weren't able to get over to humps 1075 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.840 for a variety of reasons. They decided to go ahead 1076 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.960 and pivot from that and break that team up. 1077 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.599 And now you know, it's been a few years of this. 1078 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.440 I'm sure it's tough to live through. It feels like 1079 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.320 it's been a long time. It's frustrating. But again, this 1080 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.679 is that you're not the Charlotte to one it's it's 1081 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.920 been forever, you know, or the Washington Wizards or one 1082 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.400 of those type of teams. This franchise has recently experienced 1083 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.760 a pretty high level of success. 1084 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.239 Surely you have a hot take on Isaiah Collier and 1085 00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.679 Kyle Philipowski not making either first or second team All 1086 00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:48.440 NBA Rookie. 1087 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.000 I will be honest with you, I skimmed the All 1088 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.639 Rookie selections and they have not really sunk my teeth 1089 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.159 into uh or done a whole lot of things ken 1090 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.119 about them. Color surprised me a little bit. Yeah, that 1091 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:06.760 surprised me a little bit. I thought the Jazz is 1092 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.599 a nice little marketing campaign. They they sent me some 1093 00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:12.639 of those. One of those posters is on the wall 1094 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.960 one of my boys, So you know, we at least 1095 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.559 got have to vote to my house about Unfortunately, my 1096 00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.480 boys don't have an official ballot, but kas and Isaiah 1097 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.320 Collier fans in North Dallas. 1098 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:24.679 All right, moving on. 1099 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:27.360 We were able to get six minutes on the Jazz, 1100 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:28.599 which is more than I thought we could. 1101 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:29.239 So let's move on. 1102 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:29.519 Now. 1103 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.159 You know, I'm impressed that you were able to play along, 1104 00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.440 but that's why you're a pro. I continue to give 1105 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.320 you credit. And I talked about this to start the 1106 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:41.239 show because with about three weeks in the regular season 1107 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.440 left you on the regular season, I asked you, who's 1108 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.199 the team that can throw punches with OKC and the 1109 00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.920 answer would very based off the week. You know, the 1110 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.239 Lakers get Luca? Could it be the Lakers? Lakers? The 1111 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.639 Warriors get Jimmy? Could it be the Warriors. You're the 1112 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.039 one that said watch out for Minnesota, and I read 1113 00:50:58.119 --> 00:50:58.559 this morning. 1114 00:50:58.679 --> 00:50:59.360 I did not know this. 1115 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.840 The two best records in pro basketball since March first 1116 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.039 are Oklahoma City and the Minnesota Timberwolves. 1117 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:07.719 Let's start with the Timberwolves side of things. 1118 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.360 What is what are your main takeaways with how they 1119 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.679 finished a regular season and how they've been able to 1120 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.079 advance to the conference finals. 1121 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.920 You got to start with Julius Randall and look for 1122 00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.280 a lot of the season it was about figuring out 1123 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.960 the Randalls fit and it was clunky and like could 1124 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.320 he really not just coexist but thrive with And you 1125 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.119 got two kind of ball stopping, you know, star type 1126 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.360 of players. What's you know? They like to operate kind 1127 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.119 of similar rhythms where they're kind of getting each other's 1128 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.000 way and bogging things down for each other. For a 1129 00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.719 lot of the season, the space wasn't quite right. You know, 1130 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.320 there's also the ruty factor as far as part of 1131 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.719 the spacing and ingredients there. They took a long time 1132 00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.239 to figure things out. There's a lot of button their 1133 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.079 heads up against walls, a lot of frustration. They felt 1134 00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.639 like they were making progress and then boom it makes 1135 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.960 you know, gets his hammy. So he's come back from 1136 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.239 that hand me though, this thing is taken off of them. 1137 00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.039 You know you mentioned the record down a stretch. You know, 1138 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.880 obviously they they sitting here in the Western Common Finals. Randall, 1139 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.880 a guy who had a reputation, is kind of a 1140 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.320 playoff dog, to be honest with you, after Instant New 1141 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.519 York has been awesome during his playoffs. He has been 1142 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.639 a bona five legitimate All NBA caliber co stars day. 1143 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.639 He's been All NBA before, but not in the playoffs 1144 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.199 and played at that level in the playoffs until this season. 1145 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:33.079 But here he is. You know, they've obviously got a 1146 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:38.159 really good eating the team. They've got the you know, top, 1147 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.480 top level type of superstar in ant er, it was 1148 00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.519 approaching the top level. But this really is clicked because 1149 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.679 Julius Randall has found his comfort zone and has taken off. 1150 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.079 And you know, this is a big team with two 1151 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.599 go two guys you know up down the roster, dudes 1152 00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.599 who are scared to get the nose Verdy in terms 1153 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.480 of of defending. I will say Raynolds playing the best 1154 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.719 defense in his career too. That's been a major factor. 1155 00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.280 And you know, we're going to find out what kind 1156 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.599 of fight they can put up against the Oklahoma City Thunder. 1157 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.440 Is there a home for Mike in this series? 1158 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.800 Mike Conley, I mean, you know, four or five years ago, 1159 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:22.599 at six', one he still had decent shift ability and 1160 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.760 speed move move side to. Side when you look at Ok, 1161 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.719 see Even Cason wallace is six,', THREE like i Wonder 1162 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.039 if mike is going to be able to play big 1163 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:34.079 Minutes For chris finch in. 1164 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.559 This, series well and that's that's one of the questions 1165 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.239 that we're going to. Find out like con is no 1166 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.519 longer like a thirty five even a thirty plus minute per. 1167 00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.360 Game guy obviously he's kind of shifted into more of a. 1168 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.679 COMPLIMENTARY role i do think though he still has value. 1169 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.000 FOR them i got to protect, them defense so he 1170 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:54.880 got to kind of hide them a little, bit defensively 1171 00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.360 but just the, calming presence, you know kind of, the 1172 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.199 orchestrator the guy who pets. Things organized i'll, say this 1173 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.719 even if he doesn't play a, whole lot he's got 1174 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.159 extreme value, for him just as that stage vets of 1175 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.840 voice on the bench and in the, locker room and 1176 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:18.599 you know an extra Pair Of Isivanniers. Anthony edwards so 1177 00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:19.039 who do you? 1178 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.159 Think draws who do you think draws the primary Assignment? 1179 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.599 ON ant, i mean with an offensive talent, like that 1180 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:27.320 you want to throw a bunch of different looks, and 1181 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:28.519 okay see has a bunch of. 1182 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.400 Different bodies Is, it dort Is? It jalen Is? 1183 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.079 It shay who do you think draws THE primary, i, 1184 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.480 mean hell We Saw, Alex, Caruso Gardner. Kola jokich who 1185 00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.079 do you think draws the primary Assignment? 1186 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.000 On ant it's sure as that will Not. Be shay 1187 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.400 it's gonna Be. Lou Dort lou dort's gonna start off. 1188 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.239 ON him i Think lou dort will spend the most time. 1189 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:49.760 ON him i think it's primarily going To. BE lou 1190 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.480 i think he's also going to see a healthy built 1191 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.480 to Case. And wallace my guess Is that crusoe is 1192 00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.480 going to spend more Time On julius randall mean He Will. 1193 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.400 Anthony edwards i'm sure he'll see. Him some but, you 1194 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.440 know Think about cruso's impact defensively so far in, These 1195 00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:10.360 playoffs Completely Eight Jaron jackson junior live in the, first 1196 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.360 round And then, game Seven the thunder's big Adjustment was 1197 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:18.199 huso ended up being the guy who spent the most 1198 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.599 Time on joker in. That, game now there's a lot 1199 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.280 of help obviously, involved there but one of the great 1200 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.159 Strength of pruso as a defender in addition just had 1201 00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.760 insane hands, and instincts is that this is a tough 1202 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.480 dude who's got the ability to. Guard UP so i 1203 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.320 think he'll be THE primary i don't need. TO start 1204 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.480 i think he'll get more time anybody Else On. Julius 1205 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.320 randall AND again i think if lou Dor On, anthony 1206 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.800 edwards to me is as fascinating with an individual matchup 1207 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:47.760 as you could possibly come. 1208 00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.000 UP with i agree on the, Other side sga Is? 1209 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:52.960 It jaden Is? 1210 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.159 It antot who draws the primary signmon ON shaf. 1211 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:02.800 I would think they would start Off with jade McDaniels 1212 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.239 on him for the simple fact that you don't necessarily 1213 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.039 want and to have to exhaust that kind of energy 1214 00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:12.079 playing forty plus minutes per, game now and it's going 1215 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.639 to get his fair share time. On THEM but i 1216 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:16.679 don't think you want him to have to do that 1217 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.920 from the opening Tip of game one? 1218 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.360 For sure, all right the go. 1219 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.159 Bear factor, of course we are familiar with it, around 1220 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:25.880 here and, YOU know i was thinking about this Tim 1221 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:30.320 Watching mitchell robinson really guard like five positions on a 1222 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.239 couple of different possessions With the celtics and the modern 1223 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:38.079 day five out spacing offensive attack that most teams like 1224 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.559 to use is a really tough ask on. Most, Bigs 1225 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.840 now rudy can, handle it even though some people think that. 1226 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.039 He cannot how do You think okase goes about. Their 1227 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:49.559 business do you think they're going to try to go 1228 00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.519 small to at Least, neutralize rudy make him chase these 1229 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:53.559 perimeter players around. 1230 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:54.119 The floor. 1231 00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:58.840 It's like a a pitcher with like, eight, Pitches right 1232 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.280 they've got a lot. Of stuff they can go a 1233 00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.199 lot of. DIFFERENT ways i think they start off with 1234 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.840 their two gigs and kind of go. From there And 1235 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:09.199 in game one is Really For. Mark dagnall it's kind 1236 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:10.920 of a feel. Out game it's still in a lot 1237 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.920 of different Things that i'm seeing how they, respond to 1238 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.679 is seeing how they. Handle it they do have the 1239 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:20.679 ability to play shit in a lineup that is fied 1240 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.639 out with a seven footer on. THE floor i think 1241 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.440 you'll see a lot. Of, that honestly looking at It from, 1242 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.639 MINNESOTA'S perspective i think, feel, like hey let's see if 1243 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.559 check and. Hit shots he hadn't shot it well during. 1244 00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:35.400 The playoffs that goes back to. Last year, you know 1245 00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.239 THEY certainly i think will play small some With with 1246 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.880 cluso almost AS a i guess there's a small ball 1247 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.480 center and then just kind of a crazy switching type. 1248 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.639 Of lineup AND again i think they'll go too big 1249 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:51.360 some with with or a lot to, start games Certainly 1250 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.519 with Hart and Stein. And HOLMER so i think there 1251 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.719 will be a lot of different. Looks there and you, 1252 00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.360 know what like go bet obviously you think the root 1253 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.239 do you think would be fans full time deepers play 1254 00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.960 of the year and just you know he's going to 1255 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.760 have to be awesome on that in. THE floor i 1256 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:08.960 think his screening in this series is going to. Be 1257 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.679 Critical lou dort is as good as there is in. 1258 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.960 The League as i've got a part rolling, by me 1259 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.719 they're like. A Hundreds lou dord is as good as 1260 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:23.239 there is in the league at navigating screens and Obviously 1261 00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:26.239 getting dort off of and is going to be, a 1262 00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:30.599 huge huge Deal. For minnesota so, You know rudy prides 1263 00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.360 himself is the best screen in. The league has to 1264 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:33.280 be put to the test in. 1265 00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:37.199 The series in, The playoffs Shay And jalen williams combined 1266 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.960 are averaging, let's see this would be forty nine point 1267 00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.039 six points between the two. Of them Aunt And julius 1268 00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:47.599 randall averaging forty nine. Point four so it's nearly a 1269 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.840 standstill better one to two Offensive Punch Aunt, Julius Randall 1270 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:53.480 Shay jaln williams. 1271 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:56.119 So far in. 1272 00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.320 These playoffs so far in, the playoffs it has been 1273 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:05.159 has been And joyous randall, Because Honestly jarren williams hasn't 1274 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:09.280 had a great, playoff series so are a, great playoffs great. 1275 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.519 Post league, so far he's had some. Good games he's 1276 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.480 not shot the, ball though he's not shot the. Three 1277 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.559 wheel he's playing with a really painful. Risk injury don't 1278 00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:18.119 want to use who as, an excuse but like if 1279 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.079 you saw the ty job underneath that, shooting sleeve you 1280 00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.800 Know what i'm. Talking about they need more Of The 1281 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.119 jade Doug from. Game seven if they get, that GUY 1282 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.480 then i Think, it's, okay see because let's just be 1283 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:34.480 straight up as Awesome as ann, is days there's the 1284 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.760 only two other guys that would put a conversation with 1285 00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.559 him is in terms of that level of offensive talents 1286 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.079 the guy That the thunder just Beat and luca those 1287 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.000 are the only. Two guys this dude just average damn 1288 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:49.199 thirty three points. A game let the league is scoring 1289 00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:54.719 on sixty plus food, shooting percentage, you know, crazy efficiency, 1290 00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:59.000 you know great assistant. Turnover ratio like the guy can 1291 00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.760 score in so many of. The ways he's the best 1292 01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.159 offense player in. The SERIES but I Think jaylen williams 1293 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.360 is four and it's a pretty distant form in terms 1294 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:09.679 of the postseason. 1295 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.440 Right now chet Is okay c's. Third option Who is 1296 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.639 minnesota's third option or is it? By committee. 1297 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.719 It's, by COMMITTEE and i think You would you could 1298 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.760 argue that it's their. Sixth man you could argue this 1299 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:27.000 not big or, seventh Pain even Shinzo. Nas reeve, You 1300 01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.559 know jay McDaniels has had some big games in, These 1301 01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:32.760 PLAYOFFS but i think he's a guy who's going into 1302 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.239 a series like you want to you want to see 1303 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.519 if he's. Making shots but you know there are nights 1304 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:42.840 where he looks like that type. Of DUDE so i 1305 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:45.000 don't think there's a clear cut third Option. 1306 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:48.440 For bill, all RIGHT before i say, you loose do 1307 01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:50.679 you have? A lean this feels like a, heavyweight. Fight, 1308 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:52.679 man okay see is, the favorite, of COURSE but i 1309 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.440 would not Sleep. On minnesota are you leaning one way or? 1310 01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:56.000 The other and? 1311 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.880 WHY oh i definitely would lean towards the team that 1312 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.159 won sixty eight games and have the best point DIFFERENTIAL in, 1313 01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:06.039 Nba HISTORY and i would cite those as the as the. 1314 01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.360 Two REASONS but i think he's gonna be a. Heckord serious? 1315 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.360 Fair enough, All, Right tim thanks for, the. Time man 1316 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:12.639 enjoy the game tonight should be a. 1317 01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:14.480 Good one, appreciate, you brother. 1318 01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.599 All right The great tim McMahon COVERS the NBA for 1319 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.719 espn joins us on a. Weekly basis all of his 1320 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:23.159 work is up On his twitter PAGE At espn, underscore 1321 01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.880 McMahon including the link to the Book that tim wrote 1322 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.880 that was Released, In, March luka Doncic And the Curse. 1323 01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.199 Of greatness you can check that out On his. 1324 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.559 Twitter Page The conference finals begin tonight in the world 1325 01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:36.199 of pro BASKETBALL with Okc. 1326 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.639 And Minnesota oklahoma city is a six point five. 1327 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.559 Point favorite and then tomorrow night it is time For 1328 01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:44.639 The eastern conference side of things As The New. York 1329 01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.519 knicks we'll welcome In The boston Celtics To Madison. Square 1330 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.199 Garden first conference finals For the knicks since the year 1331 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:55.360 two thousand when they played, coincidentally Enough The. Indiana pacers, 1332 01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.000 All right smithy's gonna join us live. And studio we'll do, 1333 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.239 some jazz some good Jazz stuffrom tim. McMahon today but 1334 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.559 before we catch, a break welcome and My guy Corey From. 1335 01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.920 Courtland, Roofing Corey, happy, Tuesday man how are we? 1336 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:06.719 Doing good how are? 1337 01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:07.320 You today, i'm. 1338 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.679 Well buddy, all right we're talking about great deals for, 1339 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.079 roof replacements and that means folks are probably gonna have 1340 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.960 to work with. 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IN studio i have 1413 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.079 tasked him with coming up With a jazz draft trivia 1414 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:24.800 question that will drop on you at the end of, 1415 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:25.480 This segment so. 1416 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.280 Stay, Tuned Smitty, happy. Tuesday sir how. Are you we're, Doing, 1417 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:31.679 great spence what's going? On here it's great to. SEE 1418 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.039 you a lot of stuff, going on a lot of stuff, 1419 01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.559 going ON and i need to. GIVE you i need 1420 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:36.880 to give. 1421 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:38.880 You credit as the kids, Would say i'm gonna give your, 1422 01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.639 flowers wow because you. Are good to remind us that 1423 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.639 when it comes to, playoff basketball anything, can happen Like 1424 01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.119 A steph curry hamstring Or A jason. Tatum, achilles unfortunately 1425 01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.360 no part of me Thought the knicks had a chance 1426 01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:55.559 Against The. Boston, celtics yet for the first time since 1427 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.880 the year, two Thousand The New york knicks are back 1428 01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.199 in the. Conference finals in two thousand they Play The, 1429 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.000 indiana pacers and in twenty twenty five they will Play The. 1430 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:05.000 Indiana pacers, you. 1431 01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:06.000 Know so it's, Wild. 1432 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.159 Too spence the LAST night i was on a flight 1433 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.760 coming Back To salt LAKE and i just happened to 1434 01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.480 flip on. The screen it was a thirty for thirty 1435 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.719 On the knicks two championship teams in seventy and, seventy 1436 01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:21.559 three and just the genesis of that and all the 1437 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.880 guys talking, about It And walt Frazier And bill Bradley 1438 01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.079 And phil jackson and all, Those guys and it was 1439 01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:33.320 a reminder of how electric the league, can be especially, 1440 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:36.519 you Know With new york being the center of it 1441 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.480 When the knicks are good and when, they're competitive and 1442 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.599 how that kind of ramps. 1443 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.960 Everybody up so it's. 1444 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:46.599 A fun time of the year in, the playoffs especially 1445 01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:48.920 when you get TO the nba version Of The, final 1446 01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.920 four but also if you happen to Be a knicks 1447 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.159 fan wherever, you are, you know it's kind of a, 1448 01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.360 you know maybe a, semi unexpected, you know turn of 1449 01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:01.480 events to get to. This far but that's why you're playing. 1450 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.639 The playoffs it's. What happens. You know you can get 1451 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:08.440 that right spence or you can get the, flip side 1452 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.880 which is what the Unfortunately the, jazz had, you know, 1453 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.079 three four five, years ago and they were one of 1454 01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.280 the better teams and one of the expected teams to 1455 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.400 make an extended run and then stub their toe a 1456 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:23.320 few times in the playoffs Against, the clippers and and 1457 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:27.320 and just you know a reminder of how tenuous it 1458 01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:29.960 is at this time, of year and how fine that 1459 01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:33.800 line is on the positive side or the, negative side 1460 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.880 just depending what. Can, happen right everybody Had the celtics 1461 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.920 And Then jason tatum goes, down unfortunately and But the 1462 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.400 knicks have been playing well And the knicks have won 1463 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.400 is it four or five road gamesaive road games in 1464 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:49.079 the first two. 1465 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:50.039 Two series. 1466 01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.480 That's unbelievable, you Know The, HOUSTON rockets i believe have 1467 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.760 the Record if i'm, not mistaken in ninety four when 1468 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:01.920 they won, the championship, They won. THEY won i believe 1469 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.920 it was nine road games to get TO The nba 1470 01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.559 championship and they had two series where they won three 1471 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.400 road games in particular series on their way to. Doing 1472 01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:15.440 that and that's, to me that's always been one of 1473 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.600 the great accomplishments and never gets talked, about enough is 1474 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:22.520 Is how houston made that run that year and especially 1475 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:24.960 all those road games they wont. 1476 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.560 Oh it get it gets, Talked, About smidy it gets 1477 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.880 talked about plenty because they Beat. 1478 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:30.680 The knicks who Did the jazz lose to in? 1479 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:35.199 Ninety, four no it was ROCKET because i can remember 1480 01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:38.479 so for our, younger listeners look. It Up michael jordan 1481 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.880 had retired and as a child Of the jazz And. 1482 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.319 THE knicks i thought, to myself ninety four is the 1483 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.039 year That the jazz And the knicks are going to 1484 01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:49.800 play in. THE finals i had Forgot that houston actually beat. Both, teams, 1485 01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:53.239 yeah Well the Houston the jazz. Were favored they came 1486 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.920 in as the, three Seed that houston was a sixth Seed. 1487 01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.520 The jazz and that was the year the jazzon made 1488 01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:02.279 the Trade for jeff warn a SECOND and uh and 1489 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:04.319 And the jazz are feeling pretty good and we're in a, 1490 01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:09.119 good SPOT and Uh and Houston went that was when 1491 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:12.319 the first round series were best of five And the 1492 01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.000 jazz had the first two at home and went to 1493 01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.079 to and then the fifth game was Here In, salt 1494 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.680 lake AND and uh And the jazz are up seven 1495 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.319 with five minutes to go, at HOME and Uh And 1496 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:25.560 clyde drexler went on the little runs RIGHT and uh 1497 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:27.720 And the jazz couldn't stop him at that moment, in 1498 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:31.039 TIME and Uh and houston got over the hump in 1499 01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:34.600 that series and then parlayed that into a great run all, 1500 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.199 THE way uh to. The finals but that was that, 1501 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:41.199 also precipitated, you know a lot of a thinking AND 1502 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:43.760 and uh, head scratching you know By the jazz the 1503 01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.880 next couple of years really was was what Precipitated the 1504 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:52.800 jazz bringing In A chris morris because when we looked 1505 01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.680 at that and and tried to, analyze everything and and 1506 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.359 you never try and get, you know too reactionary to 1507 01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.319 those things again plus, or minus because it's a series 1508 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:05.560 and a couple things can happen in a couple, of 1509 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:08.600 games and you don't want to wipe away what you 1510 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:11.960 did over a six month period over eighty two games 1511 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.039 because you had a, bad weekend right or something. Like 1512 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:18.359 that but when we looked, at That the jazz, looked, 1513 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.279 at hey if we are going to get over, this 1514 01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:25.439 hump Which the jazz felt at, that time we have a. 1515 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:26.760 Good team we have a highly. 1516 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:30.479 Competitive team, you know we can really do, some damage, 1517 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.319 you know in these coming years with the core we 1518 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:37.560 have Now With stockton Malone. And horniseck but we have 1519 01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:40.439 to have someone if we get to this spot again 1520 01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:45.439 that can play a matchup Against A clyde drexler, type 1521 01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.960 guy because we're going to be seeing. Him again and 1522 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:52.720 so that precipitated the move that Eventually Became chris morris 1523 01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.399 being added to, the team and then We play houston 1524 01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.760 in ninety seven In That western, conference finals and now 1525 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.159 they got, a team but they've Also added barkley to 1526 01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:06.439 go Along, with drexler And the jazz were able to 1527 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.720 counter with their, big three But Also chris morris to 1528 01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.079 match up Some against drexler just in terms of his 1529 01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.960 length and athleticism and And the jazz, you know pushed 1530 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.359 through at that time and got to their first finals in. 1531 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:21.920 Ninety Seven b russ on. That Team b, Russ, was 1532 01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:24.880 yeah he was the. Starting three so he, oh, yeah, 1533 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.800 yeah yeah, he was and and and and he became 1534 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.000 a he worked, his way. You Know brian russell was 1535 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.319 a second round pick Out Of Long beach state and 1536 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:36.960 came in as as really a post player out of 1537 01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:41.640 college and uh and made himself into A viable nba 1538 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:45.279 wing defender and what is commonly referred to now as 1539 01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.640 a THREE and, d guy and became a reliable enough 1540 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.119 three point shooter that that helped Offset What jeff hornseack 1541 01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.560 was able to do on the other wing with, his 1542 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.000 shooting and then of course spaced, that, floor Uh for 1543 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.000 Carl and john to run picking rolls And for carl 1544 01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:03.279 to have some space to operate. 1545 01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:04.800 Down low, shandon, Too Right. 1546 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.560 Shandon Anderson and anderson was a rookie in, ninety seven 1547 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.239 so his first two years in the league were the 1548 01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:12.960 two years At the jazz run to. 1549 01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:13.800 The finals, that yeah. 1550 01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:17.000 That's RIGHT so i was thinking about THIS when i 1551 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:20.119 saw you on the, rundown today because you had a 1552 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:23.840 front row seat to The Early jalen brunson experience With The. 1553 01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:27.520 Dallas mavericks, THE final I guess I'll say nail and 1554 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.039 the coffin without trying to be too Dramatic Of Gobert. 1555 01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:33.800 Mitchell quinn you know that group was the series you 1556 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:39.319 guys Played. Against dallas luca, Gets Hurt rick carlisle gives 1557 01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.520 the Ball. To jalen you're our ball and hand, guy 1558 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:46.720 now and it worked, really WELL and i think it 1559 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.720 caught a lot of people. Off guard and of Course 1560 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.439 the knicks did. Their calculation, they said we're going to 1561 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:54.199 go all in on. That kid His dad rick as. 1562 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:56.039 An assistant he Was a nick back in. The day 1563 01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.800 are you surprised To see jalen elevate to this level 1564 01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:02.680 or did you see it coming based off of what you. 1565 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.960 Guys, Experienced no I'm personally. 1566 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.720 I'M surprised i Always Liked jalen brunson coming out of College, 1567 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.920 at villanova, you know where they won. Two championships but 1568 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.159 he was he was always a. Steadying influence he always 1569 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:17.039 played with a. 1570 01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:17.479 Calm. 1571 01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.720 Demeanor uh he Got to dallas as a second. Round 1572 01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:25.439 pick Give Give Dennis, Dennis, lindsay uh. Some, props dennis 1573 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:27.640 who's the general manager Of the jazz at, the Time 1574 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:32.239 Liked rick brunson in. The draft it didn't it didn't go. 1575 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:35.760 Our way he ended up going early in the second Round, 1576 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.960 to dallas. You know and again the way sometimes these, 1577 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.399 Things happened spence and and people people try and write 1578 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:47.000 it differently than it. Really was But but Rick, Brunt 1579 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.720 Rick jalen brunson was a nice player For The dallas 1580 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:53.319 mavericks and a good. 1581 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.359 Rotation guy doncic. 1582 01:13:56.520 --> 01:14:00.199 Goes down you look down, the BENCH and i can 1583 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.079 give you countless times that's happened over my years IN 1584 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:06.000 the nba where, a coach, you know looked down the bench, and, 1585 01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:09.720 said well uh pointed to and, guys said, you're up 1586 01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:15.479 and you're you're expecting not, anything great be expecting someone 1587 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:18.439 to maybe plug their finger in the dike and just 1588 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:22.560 hold you in place somehow while some of your main 1589 01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:25.720 guys go to work or somebody does something in, that 1590 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.640 regard and then somebody comes out of the Woodwork Like 1591 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.279 jalen brunson Against the jazz in that. Playoff series and 1592 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.800 uh and, And, again spence you look at it and 1593 01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:39.079 and people will have their own version of of what 1594 01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.560 you should or could or would have done. And Whatnot 1595 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:46.359 But jalen brunson was a surprise in, that series, played 1596 01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:50.199 well helped them immensely to win. That, series Okay the 1597 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.199 jazz stubbed their toe in, that regard but now here 1598 01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:56.600 we are several years Later And jalen brunson is doing 1599 01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:01.600 the exact same thing when everybody he's going to do 1600 01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:04.039 the exact, same thing and they haven't been able to. 1601 01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:08.439 Stop it so it shows, his persistence, his development his 1602 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:12.199 talent and skill level that he has the confidence to play. 1603 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.680 That way and he's become obviously a main guy IN 1604 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.600 the nba and has showed everybody that he can lift 1605 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.840 that kind of heavy load when it's called. Upon him 1606 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.800 and but he may never have gotten the chance to, 1607 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:30.800 show that and he may, still be, you know a 1608 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.840 good rotation Guy for dallas on his second mid. Level 1609 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:40.560 contract whatever If if doncich hadn't, gotten hurt that's that's, 1610 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.800 that proverbial, you know be ready when your number, is 1611 01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:47.640 called you know mantra and that you always. Tell guys 1612 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.119 and then when you're, in there here. You go you 1613 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:54.079 always said you wanted more. Playing time here's your more. 1614 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.880 Playing time let's see what. You got and To To jalen, 1615 01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:02.239 brunson's credit he's been able to pilay that into you 1616 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:04.840 know what is he is now in the middle of 1617 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.119 a of A terrific nba career and uh and the 1618 01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:09.720 main guy For the knicks at the at. 1619 01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:13.239 The, Moment Yeah and i've been so impressed with his 1620 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.119 both mental and. PHYSICAL toughness i know it, sounds cliche 1621 01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:20.359 but you look at him and he's a. Sturdy kid 1622 01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:23.840 But Even, drew holliday who's one of the best primeter 1623 01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.760 defensive players that we've had in, A generation drew had 1624 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:28.600 some good moments, on Him but jalen would take him 1625 01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:31.079 down on. The Block derek white didn't have a prayer 1626 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:34.159 against Him because jalen just backed. Them down and six' 1627 01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:37.960 one maybe six', One quite Honestly, and AGAIN bill but 1628 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.239 i DON'T know that i really knew that he had 1629 01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:45.720 this physical presence and mental toughness the way and he 1630 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:47.479 seems like. A, perfect nick yeah. 1631 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.640 Well he's he's got the demeanor spence that when things, 1632 01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:53.439 don't go right you. Never see him all these guys 1633 01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:56.520 always always go crazy and they're yelling at the ref or, 1634 01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.399 they're you know throwing a temper tantrum in the middle 1635 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:02.239 of the game and whatever way. They Want to jalen 1636 01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:05.840 brunson always just has. A calm demeanor whether the, ball 1637 01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:07.800 went in whether the ball, didn't go in or he, 1638 01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:08.880 got the call he didn't. 1639 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:10.800 Get the, call you know. He's just. 1640 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.960 Playing he's, Playing You know john stockin was one of 1641 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.640 the greatest, at doing, it you know just looking ahead 1642 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.760 to the next play and not worrying about what happened, 1643 01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.359 ten seconds ago. Good Or Bad and jalen brunson's. Got 1644 01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:30.720 that skill and again To, the point DEWEY as, an 1645 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:36.920 nba fans ever see that if The scenario with, doncic years, 1646 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:37.800 earlier you know. 1647 01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.359 DOESN'T doesn't occur i mean. 1648 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:41.079 A lot of guys just. 1649 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:44.279 Need the chance and that's why we always want to talk, 1650 01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:47.640 about the draft which obviously will be doing a lot 1651 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.359 of in the next month or so and trying to 1652 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:54.560 project GUYS. At the nba you just never know how 1653 01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:58.079 someone is, going to play no matter what their talent 1654 01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:02.279 or Skill level or nate, poletic abilities are until they 1655 01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:05.800 get in the fire and you put him in there and, 1656 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:09.000 the pressure's on and, now you see you know, how 1657 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.960 they think what, their twitch is what their, confidence level 1658 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.399 is all those kinds of things you. Never quite know 1659 01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:16.880 it's the old It's The old. 1660 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:17.119 Mike. 1661 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.359 Tyson accident right everybody's got a plan until they get 1662 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:22.479 hit in the face and then the plan goes. 1663 01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:24.239 Out the window and now we see what. You really 1664 01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:26.399 Got And and jalen brunson's doing. 1665 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.239 That in. Spades you Know, frank is sola friend. 1666 01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:30.920 Of the, Show in fact porter reach Out, to Is 1667 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.199 sola tell isola That with The nixon, the conference finals 1668 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:34.720 he has to come. 1669 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:35.800 On THE show he. 1670 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:37.199 I like this. I. 1671 01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.119 Like this porter, by the way your guy here calling 1672 01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:43.000 out like a national figure by, his LAST Name. 1673 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.640 Call i, SOLA without me i saw is NOT a. 1674 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:47.960 Thing i saw it's not a. 1675 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:52.319 Thing without Me but but frank always talks about and, 1676 01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:55.720 then he'll tweet He'll write about there really isn't any 1677 01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:00.239 hard data to support The Narrative that tom tibboteau plays his. 1678 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.159 Players too much it. Does not exist and when you, 1679 01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.119 look at It This year steve kerr was. Playing ten 1680 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:09.479 guys steph, Does his hamstring Boston's ten d tatum. Does 1681 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.920 his achilles the data. Does not exist it's a narrative 1682 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.520 That exists that tom plays his. Guys, TOO much however 1683 01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.680 i know. You Were Traveling, But friday, night game six 1684 01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:22.520 the score is one hundred and ten TO seventy four 1685 01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:26.039 yep with six Minutes Left and jalen brunson is fighting 1686 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:30.680 over Screen SET. By xavier tillmanep, pull the guys. PULL 1687 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.840 the starters I know It's tom's, THICK and again i want, 1688 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:34.920 to be clear there really. Is no data my soul 1689 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:36.760 has been on. This for years there's no Data to 1690 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:39.399 indicate tom plays his, players too much so they. All 1691 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.039 get hurt guys, just get hurt. No matter what but 1692 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:44.079 what do you make of that with five and a 1693 01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:47.239 half minutes left, in the game all the starters are 1694 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.079 in and They're up forty why do you think he? 1695 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:53.760 Rolls, that way well If, you KNOW TIBs which i 1696 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:54.000 know you. 1697 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:58.560 Do is somewhat he is a high strung guy and 1698 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:02.800 he is all and he is He is he he's 1699 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:05.600 one of those guys who just believes and he just 1700 01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:08.760 feels with his gut that no lead is safe and. 1701 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.760 It doesn't matter and you can talk to HIM and 1702 01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:14.439 And I, know rick brunson one of, the assistant coaches 1703 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.600 is probably the best at it to be able to 1704 01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:20.640 go up to, him, and, say, hey coach, coach it's, 1705 01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:22.920 uh you know let's get him, out or something and 1706 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:24.960 he'll he'll like look at him and give him a 1707 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:26.560 scowl like what? Are you, talking you, know, you, know 1708 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.399 okay yeah and wave him. Off or whatever and it's, 1709 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:35.039 Just against, uh tim's nature uh. To do that that's 1710 01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:38.319 just the. Way he coaches he's gonna go down with with. With, 1711 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:42.560 those guys, okay it's smart it's, not smart whatever, But. 1712 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:46.039 You're right spence all, during the Season whenever the knicks 1713 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.680 had a little ripple or something didn't go right, during 1714 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.119 the season or they had, a you know lost, three 1715 01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:53.920 or four, whatever it was there would always be people. 1716 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:56.479 Harping on it while he's playing this guys too much 1717 01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.199 and it's too many minutes and you gotta cut it 1718 01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:01.039 back as when you get, to the playoffs they got 1719 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.159 to have some energy left and blah blah blah and 1720 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:08.399 whatever and and but now they're in. The conference finals They've, 1721 01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:12.960 beaten the celtics they had some Tough, games against detroit 1722 01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:16.000 which is an up. And coming team they're in the 1723 01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:16.560 final FOUR. 1724 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:17.479 Of the nba. 1725 01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.800 You don't hear anybody complaining about tims is playing the, guys, 1726 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:26.039 TOO much, right i mean it's just a narrative that 1727 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:30.439 that somebody gets on and somebody takes it and runs. 1728 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.000 Off with it and whether it makes sense or, not or, 1729 01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:36.600 whatever you know you always people always are going to 1730 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.039 use it to whatever way they want to, skew, the 1731 01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.199 argument right and if they're if they're, losing some games it's, 1732 01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:43.640 going to be. 1733 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:44.359 Oh they ran. 1734 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.159 Out of gas they played brunts at. Forty three minutes 1735 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:49.359 you can't do that then to, play you know whatever. 1736 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:52.560 It's gonna be and, So you know tis is gonna 1737 01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:55.159 Coach the. Way TIBs has look he Did. It, in 1738 01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:59.239 chicago uh He. Did in minnesota you know the way 1739 01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:02.439 he's he Alway coaches The knicks new that's. How he 1740 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:05.159 coaches that's how he's gonna be if he can get 1741 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:09.359 his team to, a high level which. Obviously they have 1742 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:12.159 and they made the big. Trade last summer they went 1743 01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.680 all in on this group by making The Trade For 1744 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:20.119 karl anthony towns and Also Bringing in michal bridges and 1745 01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:22.319 giving up a bunch of their draft picks and all 1746 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.239 that kind of stuff they had, in the bank and 1747 01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:28.239 they rolled the. Dice on it and again things have, fallen, 1748 01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:28.640 their way. 1749 01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:29.880 Right they won they. 1750 01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:31.960 WON three games i think it Was in, the detroit 1751 01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:34.680 series like in the, last thirty seconds. 1752 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:36.800 The ball. 1753 01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:38.840 Fell their way they, made a shot they, got to 1754 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.199 stop they got To, steal the celtics the same thing, 1755 01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:44.640 in game one and then they got they got The. 1756 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:50.039 Thing with tatum and so, to this point those breaks 1757 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.199 that they some of them, they've made themselves but some 1758 01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:56.640 of them have. Happened for them and in whatever way 1759 01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:00.199 you want, to interpret it they find themselves now in. 1760 01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.399 The conference, finals and, uh you Know In, being new 1761 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:07.000 york as you Know very well, spence first, hand you know, whether, 1762 01:23:07.079 --> 01:23:10.239 they win uh they'll, be the greatest the greatest. Thing 1763 01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:13.319 on earth and, if they lose they'll they'll be down 1764 01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:17.239 in the depths, Of, you know uh in the under 1765 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:19.720 six feet, under the ground and and there'll be this 1766 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:21.960 guy's fault and that guy's fault and the other guy's. 1767 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.279 Fault and whatever and that's just the way It Is. 1768 01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:27.159 In new york and, at the moment they. Ride and 1769 01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:29.720 high so we'll see what happens at. Starting, TOMORROW night. 1770 01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:32.159 Honestly I was just i was, kind OF chuckling but 1771 01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:32.399 i was a. 1772 01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:34.920 LITTLE bit, Nervous i mean We're Watching o Gianna Nobe, 1773 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:37.760 guarding Baylor shireman, and i'm like what if what are 1774 01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.359 we doing here on the other. Side of things i'll 1775 01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:43.840 continue to give you credit as a, guy, that's like look. 1776 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:47.119 Anything can happen come, and playoff basketball and more, often 1777 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:49.279 than not in a, seven game series the best. Team 1778 01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:52.359 does Advance and maybe indiana was just, the Best team 1779 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.560 but cleveland was so good in. The Regular season And 1780 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.399 kenny gets Coach of The year and donovan's probably gonna 1781 01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:00.079 Be FIRST, Team all Nba Mobley gets defensive Player, of 1782 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.399 the year, and you know it Was. Interesting In smithy 1783 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:05.720 after game six it was a game six, Or game, 1784 01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:08.319 five game Six when, the pacers won whichever the, Clothes 1785 01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:13.800 Out was kenny atkinson readily admitted like they're at a level, That, 1786 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:15.960 we're not like they're better than we. Are right Now 1787 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.039 And then rick carlisle steps to the podium. And owns, it, 1788 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:19.359 he's like. 1789 01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:22.760 Yeah we're flying we're. 1790 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:25.319 Playing the best basketball we played, all year long which is, the, 1791 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:28.159 old cliche right play the right way at the right time. 1792 01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:30.159 Of the year what do you make of The way 1793 01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:32.520 the pacers were able to Get rid of Donovan And. 1794 01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:34.439 The, cleveland cavaliers well. 1795 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:36.239 It was a great. 1796 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:39.119 Series for them, first of all they, have been running 1797 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.600 running hot the second half. Of the season they've been. 1798 01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:47.520 Playing Very Well. The indiana pacers they after they stumbled 1799 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.520 out of the Gates early In, november And, december and, 1800 01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:56.800 halliburton you know maybe wasn't his usual self whatever early, 1801 01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.520 in the season but they got their. Feed under them 1802 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.800 they Got Through the, all star break they played very well, 1803 01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:06.319 the second half and they've just they've just gotten on 1804 01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.239 a you know what some people would. Call a heater, 1805 01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:12.159 they've they've played. They're playing well it's not a surprise 1806 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.960 because they're a good team and they've. Got good players 1807 01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:19.119 but when they play together And The way rick, carlisle 1808 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:22.000 has them how they, share the ball. They move it 1809 01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:26.000 uh it doesn't matter who. Gets The credit but haliburton 1810 01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.520 is the, key for them and he's got that kind 1811 01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:32.399 of A Personality like gilgess alexander does OR for For 1812 01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:36.159 Okc and jalen brunson Does with the knicks where, they're 1813 01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:39.119 the catalyst. But they don't they they all have that 1814 01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.760 mindset that they don't care who else does it as 1815 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.239 long as. It gets Done and the pacers are on 1816 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.199 that kind. Of a role and winning that First game 1817 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:50.920 in cleveland where they came back and they were doubt they, 1818 01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:55.199 should have lost and, they they again the ball bounced 1819 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:58.319 their way a couple Of times and mitchell got the 1820 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:03.039 offensive foul call, that was Questionable and then haliburton misses, 1821 01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:05.600 a free throw but he ends up with the ball back, 1822 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:08.960 as a rebound which should never HAPPEN, in the nba 1823 01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:11.800 and is able to stick that three. At the, buzzer 1824 01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:15.920 you know those are the things that have to take 1825 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:20.159 place along the way if you're gonna have some kind 1826 01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:23.399 of an. Extended playoff run so none of these things. 1827 01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:27.000 Are a surprise it's just when you're the team that. 1828 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.840 It's happening too in. A positive way you want to 1829 01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:33.319 keep those things going and you want to make sure 1830 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:37.399 that your mindset doesn't trick you into thinking that you're better. 1831 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:40.279 Than you are. That, you understand okay we got. To, 1832 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:43.560 break there okay the other game the guy fell down and, 1833 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:44.399 lost the, ball you know. 1834 01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.680 Whatever it is and so but we have to stick 1835 01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:51.279 to what we believe we can do to the best 1836 01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:52.960 of our ability to give us a chance. 1837 01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:55.560 To BE successful and i think they're gonna be, TWO 1838 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:58.159 terrific series. I really do i think it's gonna be. 1839 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:00.399 Fun to watch before we, CATCH a break i have A, 1840 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:04.399 question about donovan and IN the question i will insert 1841 01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:06.239 an OPINION and then i want. 1842 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:07.880 You to go and you might get mad at. 1843 01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:09.239 Me for this I'm. 1844 01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.479 Already, mad spence okay well that's. 1845 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.159 THAT'S the smittymo i can always angry because, Here's, the, 1846 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:19.119 thing like ultimately if you just look at the numbers 1847 01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:22.039 and you look at some of the playoff, explosions he 1848 01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:25.920 has he's in the most, rarefied Of, air Including, mike 1849 01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:30.600 Including Iverson including kobe like, Individual playoff scoring donovan is 1850 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.000 on a short list of somebody who's been able to 1851 01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:35.039 do what he's done throughout the first seven eight years. 1852 01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:37.399 Of his career never been out of, the second Round 1853 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:40.199 and certainly i'm not putting a team sport. On ONE 1854 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:44.479 player but i noticed at times here and maybe he 1855 01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:47.680 was out of necessity and At, times in cleveland like 1856 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:50.279 when he just goes all in on doing. His own 1857 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.239 thing it's really fun to watch at times because he's 1858 01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:56.800 that talented and he's that good and he can Get 1859 01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.479 his own but at times it feels like his teammates 1860 01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:03.279 stand around and watch him and suddenly, they're not cutting or, 1861 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:06.000 they're not guarding or they're, not boxing out and you've 1862 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.079 got a bunch of guys standing watching one dude, do 1863 01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.439 his thing and at times maybe at the expense, of 1864 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.479 the team and then at times he runs. Out of gas, 1865 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.800 we saw, It and look cleveland has to rely on 1866 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:22.640 him in a very heavy way offensively because he, is 1867 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:24.720 that good and you guys did the same thing because he. 1868 01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:27.800 Is that dynamic but at times does it feel like 1869 01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:29.840 he puts blinders on to the point where maybe it's 1870 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.279 not conducive. To team winning is that fair or what 1871 01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:32.560 are your? 1872 01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:32.840 Thoughts? 1873 01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:36.199 ON it yeah i would push back on that somewhat spence, 1874 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.680 he you know he does those things because he knows 1875 01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:44.119 that he. Can do them he knows that his team is, 1876 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.199 relying on him that the heavy load. Is on him 1877 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.880 but that stuff, you're talking about that's on. The, other 1878 01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:55.159 guys sure, the other guys, that's their problem their fault 1879 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.880 if they're standing around watching him instead of instead, of 1880 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:03.159 cutting baseline instead of spacing, out weak side instead of 1881 01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:06.680 going and getting a screen on somebody or rolling to 1882 01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.520 the front of the rim or, whatever it is that's 1883 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:12.800 on the other guys to not, be ball watchers on 1884 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.720 the other guys to understand this is. What's going on 1885 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:20.359 my guy is about to spin dribble to his left 1886 01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:22.560 and get in the lane and try and do a 1887 01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:25.479 double pump or something at. The DOTTED line so i 1888 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:28.000 got to get in a position for, a POTENTIAL rebound 1889 01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:29.880 or i got at least get in front of my 1890 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:32.880 guy and try and box him out so maybe we 1891 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:36.159 can get offensive tip or Something in those, In, THOSE 1892 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:41.159 circumstances donovan i can tell you he's all about. Trying 1893 01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:43.960 to win he's all about trying to do what he 1894 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:49.520 can to affect winning, for his group and those things 1895 01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:52.800 that when they've, come up short it hasn't been. Because 1896 01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:55.880 of him he gives the maximum effort as, you alluded, 1897 01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:58.920 to you know big scoring numbers. And all that that's 1898 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:02.159 what he's there to do, in those instances and it's 1899 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:05.000 on his teammates to fill in the cracks and do, 1900 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:06.840 the other, things you know to get you. 1901 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.479 Over the hump are you Ready with your jazz? 1902 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.279 Draft trivia question for one lucky listener to go play 1903 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:14.760 Eighteen holes at bonneville or just? 1904 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:19.520 A basketball trash. I, Got yeah well i'm trying to 1905 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:22.439 think of something that's not easy for people. To just. Remember, 1906 01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.600 GOOGLE it yeah, I know it i. 1907 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:33.399 Know It's okay the jazz the nineteen nineteen ninety SEVEN. 1908 01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:40.439 Draft The nba the jazz had as Their Point guards 1909 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:49.359 John Stockton And, howard howard isley and yet they still 1910 01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:53.000 decided in the late first round to pick. Another point 1911 01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:56.079 guard did you know to give them three point guards 1912 01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.680 in a in a in A Summer where howard eisley 1913 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:00.439 was going to be? A free, Agent mm hm and 1914 01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:03.760 so cause, a little consternation but it was a best. 1915 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:07.800 Player available thing Who is the jazz's first round pick 1916 01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:09.439 in nineteen ninety seven. 1917 01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:11.319 Went on to become? A head coach can we? 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LOVE that spence i always loved the world's. 1991 01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:32.960 Most famous arena it's such. 1992 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:34.279 An AUDACIOUS player AND i. 1993 01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:38.159 Always i always quickly say, myself self proclaimed. 1994 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:38.960 It's it's it's. 1995 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:41.239 It's very audacious it's one of the things you just say, 1996 01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:44.079 it out loud, and you know people just tend to. Latch, 1997 01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:47.319 ONTO it, YEAH i, KNOW i. Know i know, but 1998 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:50.119 we uh we did a Lot On the knicks. Pacers 1999 01:34:50.199 --> 01:34:52.520 last series talked To, a little donovan Talked. A little 2000 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.760 calves let's move over and Now, to the west and 2001 01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:57.920 we'll end with some jazz, For, The segment smitty Let's, 2002 01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:00.319 start in minnesota where Your old Friend rudy, go beart 2003 01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:03.840 resides Your Old friend, Mike Conley, Resides, Joey Ingles. Nikkeil 2004 01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:08.960 alexander walker kind of The Jazz, Version midwest jazz midwest 2005 01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:11.840 team that actually is still playing and. Actually is good. 2006 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.680 Unlike the jazz we'll get to that. In the, moment 2007 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.000 you know we talked about This with. The TATUM stuff 2008 01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:19.479 and i Don't Know if golden state Beats Them. WITH 2009 01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:21.960 steph curry i know it looks a, Lot different certainly 2010 01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:24.760 but what do You MAKE of and i, read THIS 2011 01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:27.520 earlier and i was unaware the top two records in 2012 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:32.720 Pro basketball, Since March first Oklahoma city won minnesota two 2013 01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:36.159 didn't start. Out that well they were trying to Figure out, 2014 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:39.800 the randall, stuff You Know and julius randall is a 2015 01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:43.239 very talented. Individual offensive, SCORER at times I think the 2016 01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:45.800 knicks asked a little too, much of him and He 2017 01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:48.279 Was an all star once, upon a time obviously a. 2018 01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:51.439 Very capable player he seems to have settled in. Quite 2019 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:53.199 a bit what do you Make Of how chris finch's 2020 01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:55.399 coaches Team Of The. Western, CONFERENCE finals yeah. 2021 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:57.920 I think that it's taken a little. While to adjust, 2022 01:35:58.039 --> 01:36:00.479 BUT you Know i think randall is in a good 2023 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:03.319 spot because he doesn't have to. Be the guy he 2024 01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:05.000 doesn't have to be doing all. 2025 01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:08.520 The heavy lift and Obviously With with anthony edwards there 2026 01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:10.960 and so he takes a lot of the Spotlight off 2027 01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:15.199 H but but randall, is a, good good player uh in, 2028 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.119 the mid post and he's also a better passer than, 2029 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.760 most people think and, a WILLING passer and i think 2030 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.359 he fits in well, with that, group you know on 2031 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:28.039 the Other side, from jade McDaniels who's who's really a, 2032 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:33.279 good wing defender has become a serviceable, three point shooter 2033 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:37.439 and they've gotten a. Nice Rhythm going and rudy has 2034 01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:40.159 always been the. Ultimate team guy he, just you know 2035 01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:42.319 tries to fill in the cracks where he can and 2036 01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:45.560 make himself available on the offensive end and does what. 2037 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:49.000 He does, defensively, and so uh they're on, a nice. 2038 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:52.399 Role YOU know and i think it's gonna be a. 2039 01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:57.800 REALLY competitive series, i, really think uh the home teams 2040 01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:04.079 are going to gonna prevail during. THIS this round i 2041 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:06.880 just think, that those guys they seem to, both play 2042 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.960 better a little bit more energized with, their home crowds 2043 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.159 which are both really, terrific you know, During the PLAYOFFS 2044 01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:15.279 and so i think it's gonna be, fun to watch 2045 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.039 and it's gonna be interesting to see how they come 2046 01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:21.880 Out the Old, rust versus, rest you know a debate 2047 01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:25.399 will Happen, tonight between okay see just coming off a 2048 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.000 tough seven game series and finishing up forty eight hours 2049 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:32.760 Ago basically and minnesota having almost, a week off and 2050 01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:35.319 and so it's it's gonna be interesting to see how 2051 01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:35.600 the two. 2052 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:38.600 Teams come, out Oddly enough ok se six and two 2053 01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:41.239 with one day of rest during The playoffs and minnesota 2054 01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:43.399 two and four with more than three, days of rest 2055 01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:46.640 and they have five days, Of, rest, obviously okay see 2056 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:49.560 a bunch of bunch of young players probably don't need 2057 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:51.119 as much rest as some of the teams that are a. 2058 01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:53.199 Little bit older let me let me Ask you about rudy, 2059 01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:57.439 THOUGH you know i was watching it Was Game, six 2060 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:01.279 nick celtics and there was One Possession where mitchell robinson. 2061 01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:03.720 WAS was guarding i Think It. 2062 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:06.359 WAS luke cornette a pass went out, To the wing 2063 01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:09.960 robinson goes out, and closes out, comes Back. Down checks 2064 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000 cornette then the ball goes to The Corner to Jalen 2065 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:14.720 Brown and mitchell robinson goes out and closes out guarded like. 2066 01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:17.960 Three different positions the way that the game, is played 2067 01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:22.479 now it asks a lot from a big to guard, 2068 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.399 on the perimeter to get out and close out to, 2069 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.960 guard Multiple players and rudy does it as, well as 2070 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.279 anybody but for some reason does not. Get the credit 2071 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:32.000 do you why do you. Think that is it feels 2072 01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.159 like there's just people that have dug their heels in 2073 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:36.319 and they're just gonna hate everything he does. 2074 01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:39.560 No, Matter WHAT yeah and i THINK that that's i 2075 01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:42.000 think you just said, A. LOT there spence i think 2076 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:45.159 some people get on a certain narrative and then they 2077 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:46.039 just won't let it go. 2078 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:48.520 For whatever reason, it's you. 2079 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.159 Know it's, unfortunate you know you have to really watch 2080 01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:54.159 the games and pay attention to, what's going on and 2081 01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:57.199 you realize all of the we we had a in 2082 01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:01.600 house metric system that was a proprietary thing that We 2083 01:39:01.880 --> 01:39:05.119 that the JAZZ developed when i was there to gauge 2084 01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:08.479 our our defensive analytics and stuff and to go off 2085 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:12.039 off the page of of what what the numbers SHOWED 2086 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:15.720 you And uh, and rudy, constantly you know graded so 2087 01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.680 so far above everybody else in the league in terms 2088 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.840 of what he meant on the defensive END to teams. 2089 01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:26.520 Uh in games and he continues. 2090 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:27.000 To do, that. 2091 01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:30.439 You know he's gotten to the point in his career 2092 01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:34.039 where he knows that he doesn't have to do all of, 2093 01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:37.279 these you know a bunch of things. In the basket 2094 01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:39.880 he just has to do. Some of them and and 2095 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:43.079 do them very well and and let the other people 2096 01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.199 do what they're supposed to be doing in order to 2097 01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:48.760 have have some. Level of success and he's he's learned 2098 01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:51.479 how to do that, and and uh he's smart about 2099 01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:55.239 it and uh and and he's a guy that's gonna 2100 01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:58.479 be a very valuable Key uh from minnesota in this 2101 01:39:58.640 --> 01:39:59.720 series if they're gonna. 2102 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:03.720 Have any success it's funny YOU reference and i don't 2103 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:06.199 pretend to know the ins and outs of your in 2104 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:09.199 house metric system as it pertains To the way, Rudy 2105 01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:12.880 impacted winning but it reminds me OF an interview I 2106 01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.520 did when i was doing The show at gordon And we. 2107 01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:18.640 Had dennis On we had, dennis lindsay on and he 2108 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:20.439 hit us with like ten straight Stats. 2109 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:24.680 About everything rudy does you know. 2110 01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:30.359 Offensive, field goal, percentage rebound, percentage black percentage the opponent's 2111 01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:34.000 field Goal percentage against rudy? AT the RIM i mean 2112 01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:36.239 i lost track. After a while he just, boom boom boom. 2113 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:39.239 Boom boom boom did you guys ever feel like you 2114 01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:41.359 had to stand? Up for him did you ever feel 2115 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:43.319 like the heat he was getting with so unfair that 2116 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.279 as an organization you had to get out in front 2117 01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:46.479 of it. A, LITTLE bit yeah i. 2118 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:49.399 Mean there was some of that because, it's you know 2119 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:51.600 a lot of the, noise you, hear you know is 2120 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:55.760 around it from people, who are lazy who, just you 2121 01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:57.920 know take, some you know the cream off the top 2122 01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:00.880 and leave the rest of the dessert there and don't 2123 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.239 don't bother digging in to see what else is going 2124 01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:06.199 on and and uh and it always felt bad for 2125 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:09.640 him because Not only was rudy an integral part of 2126 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:14.119 what those jazz teams did as his as, his career 2127 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:19.039 progressed but he also, we also, knew you know, behind 2128 01:41:19.119 --> 01:41:22.760 Closed doors that rudy was one of our guys who 2129 01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:27.720 was really about, helping the team uh to whatever extent 2130 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:31.119 he could. To be successful it wasn't about, His own 2131 01:41:31.199 --> 01:41:34.880 honors it wasn't, about you know getting. Attention to himself 2132 01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:38.520 he really cared about how the. Team was doing and 2133 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:41.720 and and sometimes when, he got attacked and, in that 2134 01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:44.359 regard you felt bad for him because you knew that 2135 01:41:44.520 --> 01:41:47.159 he was trying to do the things that the coaches 2136 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:49.159 were asking, him to, do you know. 2137 01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:52.760 Within his ability and, his skill level uh to be able. 2138 01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:56.000 To execute that and when it, didn't go well, or 2139 01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:59.159 you know you, missed an assignment or you miss, something 2140 01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:01.640 that happened and and and people were. Pointing to, you 2141 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:04.880 you know you just felt that it was unfair because 2142 01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:07.359 you knew he was one of your guys who was 2143 01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:09.760 trying to do, the right thing even. 2144 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:09.960 If. 2145 01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:14.119 He failed sometimes do you think that it affected him on, 2146 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:17.439 a personal level like? Behind closed, doors you Know because 2147 01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:21.479 the draymond stuff it, got so old but It. WASN'T just, 2148 01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:23.840 draymond i mean it felt like and it still Feels, 2149 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:27.520 LIKE quite frankly I was watching i was watching. Something 2150 01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:31.079 earlier Today IT. Was gilbert a renus who just Decided. 2151 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:34.079 To attack rudy, he was like he's the Liability on. 2152 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:37.079 This minnesota TEAM and, like i said it feels like 2153 01:42:37.159 --> 01:42:40.279 there's a faction of people in the league that HAVE 2154 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:43.760 just decided i. Don't like him do you think behind 2155 01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:46.000 closed doors it? Really hurt him do you think it? 2156 01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:46.239 Got? 2157 01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:49.079 To, Him, SURE yeah NO i think i think he's he's, 2158 01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:51.680 human like anybody, and you know he would like to 2159 01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:55.319 be recognized for his efforts and for the work. He 2160 01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.600 puts in, AND you know i, tell you what nobody 2161 01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:02.600 worked harder on his and and on his, ability to, 2162 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.600 move you know from. Side to side and and you 2163 01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:10.239 know with his hips and and being. Able, to recover uh. 2164 01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:13.000 Then he did and, he always, uh you know he 2165 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.039 always put. The work in he always put. The time 2166 01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:19.399 in look he's, He's seven too he's got some limited. 2167 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:20.439 True. 2168 01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:24.159 Athletic ability uh and then the rest of the stuff 2169 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.880 he has to you know make, up with, uh you 2170 01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:29.520 know whether it's with his length or with his smarts 2171 01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:33.199 or with his instincts or. What have you and and 2172 01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:35.239 he was always someone who. Would do that and and 2173 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:38.520 and it's it's easy, that you know the a lot of, 2174 01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:41.960 the national guys it's just a lazy narrative because they 2175 01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:43.640 don't want to do the work and they don't really. 2176 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.359 Look at it they just kind of jump. On a bandwagon, 2177 01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.439 and you know, as you know, spencing this business it's all, 2178 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:53.399 about you know clicks, and you know sound, bites and whatever, 2179 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:57.520 and you know whatever is easy and and and, so that's. 2180 01:43:57.640 --> 01:44:01.880 Unfortunate you know, and you Know But but rudy is has, 2181 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.960 never backed, down you know from his teammates, and his 2182 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:08.520 coaches and has always been there to to uh to 2183 01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:12.239 give a maximum effort from what. He can, do and 2184 01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:15.279 yeah he'd like to be one of the boys, in 2185 01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:17.840 the room, and you know have all, the other, guys 2186 01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:20.359 you know dap them up and all that, kind of stuff, 2187 01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:23.119 and you know accept him, into the club. So to 2188 01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:25.640 speak and there are some guys who are jealous that 2189 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.960 he's been recognized as A Four Time nba defensive Player. 2190 01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:33.239 Of the year and you, know, it's interesting, uh, you 2191 01:44:33.319 --> 01:44:36.840 know similar, not the same but maybe in, the same 2192 01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:41.920 uh in the same. Boat as Uh now now i'm 2193 01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:44.279 blanking out. On his name the center Who Won the 2194 01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:46.880 defensive Player of the year Awards For the detroit pistons 2195 01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:49.840 in the in, the two thousands who was Also A. 2196 01:44:49.960 --> 01:44:54.720 Non Ben wallace ben wallace a non a, non offensive. Guy, 2197 01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:59.640 you Know Uh, but ben, Wallace you know. Rudy was longer, 2198 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:04.439 rudy's you. Know MORE effective maybe, I Don't know ben wallace, 2199 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:09.319 presents you know maybe a little tougher persona OR personality maybe. 2200 01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:12.239 I don't know but you never heard any of those 2201 01:45:12.319 --> 01:45:15.840 criticisms Of Anybody, about ben, wallace you know or you 2202 01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:19.760 know that he was short, on offensive production or couldn't 2203 01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:23.359 do this or. That or whatever and, For whatever reason 2204 01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.119 rudy HAS gotten that i don't know. What that is, 2205 01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:29.960 YOU know again i think somebody way, down the, road 2206 01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.720 you know started that narrative and then, just kind, of 2207 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:37.760 you know jumped down the bandwagon and decided to ride, 2208 01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:38.600 with it man you. 2209 01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:39.800 Know well and with. 2210 01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.319 Little jazz stuff but before, WE get there i. Know 2211 01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:44.560 your reference you like both teams that have. Home court 2212 01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:49.800 advantage my Only Hesitancy, WITH oklahoma city i guess Is 2213 01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:51.680 the way. I'LL put, this, i mean look they have everything. 2214 01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:53.640 That you want, they have depth they, have star power they, 2215 01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:55.960 have great, coaching they guard they can score in a myriad. 2216 01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:59.800 OF different ways i always hesitate to anoint A team 2217 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:02.560 if i haven't seen them. Do it before minnesota Was 2218 01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:05.279 In The western conference finals. A Year ago Oklahoma, city 2219 01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:09.479 beat telicans then got Smoked. By the MAVs do you 2220 01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:12.359 feel Like this is okayse's time or which way you 2221 01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:12.680 lean it? 2222 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:15.119 On, BOTH sides NO i just i think it's, going to, 2223 01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.800 be you know, come down, to you know beating a dead. 2224 01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.680 Horse or spence but the team that can avoid injury, 2225 01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:23.680 can avoid, somebody you. 2226 01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:24.720 Know not playing. 2227 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:28.800 In, a game, say for example somebody picks up three 2228 01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:32.000 quick files and is out extended time and the other 2229 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:35.640 team is able to take. Advantage of that hopefully we 2230 01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:39.319 Don't Get another Steph Curry or, jason tatum thing and 2231 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:41.720 everybody can play at full strength and you, can just, 2232 01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:44.159 see you know. WHAT'S going on i think if all 2233 01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:46.720 the guys are, on the floor and all the guys 2234 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:49.920 are available and playing the way, that they're capable That's 2235 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.119 that's why i'm excited, for BOTH series because i think 2236 01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:56.039 they're both going to. BE very competitive i think the 2237 01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:01.479 team that keeps its head within its self doesn't get 2238 01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:04.119 caught up in all, the you know the historyonics they 2239 01:47:04.199 --> 01:47:07.159 can happen at this point in the playoffs and people 2240 01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:10.800 yelling at the referees every other whistle and getting. Upset 2241 01:47:10.840 --> 01:47:13.520 about things if you can keep your calm and just 2242 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:17.760 stay in your moment and try and concentrate on what 2243 01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:20.800 you need, TO do next i think that that's those 2244 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:23.560 are the teams that are gonna have a head up 2245 01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:26.720 and have a better chance of succeed succeeding in getting. 2246 01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:29.119 To the, finals all right before we let you, go 2247 01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:32.199 for today let's Do a. Little jazz basketball so the 2248 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.840 draft is Coming up on june. The Twenty fifth the jazz. 2249 01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:37.720 Have number five they have, number twenty one they have 2250 01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:40.640 forty three. And fifty three so to. First two, Seconds 2251 01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:44.720 You know bobby mars joined us yesterday and did a 2252 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.840 really really good job of, outlining you know my question. 2253 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:51.199 Him was okay so the NARRATIVE is the nba is now, 2254 01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:54.760 built for PARODY and the nba is now built by 2255 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:56.720 design for every team in every city to. Have a 2256 01:47:56.760 --> 01:47:59.840 shot so over the, past seven Years we've seen denver, 2257 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:03.000 In a Championship we've seen milwaukee. Win a championship this Year, 2258 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:07.279 we have Indianapolis, We Have, minnesota oklahoma city three of the. 2259 01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:10.279 Final four teams it is a perfect time for a 2260 01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:13.000 team that plays Their Basketball In salt lake city to 2261 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:15.439 be able to capitalize on the LANDSCAPE. Of, the Nba 2262 01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:19.760 unfortunately the, jazz aren't ready and there's five years LEFT. 2263 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.600 In the cba it expires. IN twenty thirty i don't 2264 01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:24.119 know what's. GOING to happen i know there's a lot 2265 01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.600 of pushback from people that don't like the way this thing. 2266 01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:30.279 Has played out there, ARE several reports i don't know 2267 01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:31.720 how much of. THIS is real i don't know how 2268 01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:33.319 much of this is True that the jazz are going, 2269 01:48:33.359 --> 01:48:35.800 To be bold they're going to be. Bold this offseason they, 2270 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:37.880 have the assets they, have the picks they, have the 2271 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:42.159 space they have. The young players what does a successful 2272 01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:45.319 offseason look Like For the, Utah, JAZZ maidy well. 2273 01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:48.520 I think they have to be bold because they have 2274 01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:51.960 nowhere to go. But up there they not only had 2275 01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:57.159 the worst record in the league, this past season but 2276 01:48:57.319 --> 01:49:00.399 they by a lot, of defensive metrics they, were one 2277 01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:02.640 of if not the, worst defensive team. 2278 01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:03.920 Uh in a lot. 2279 01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:07.960 Of years, HISTORICAL but yeah i mean they, just you 2280 01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:10.640 know they're just not very good. At the moment so 2281 01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:14.680 there's nobody that's on the on the. Team that's untouchable, 2282 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.079 IN my opinion i, think you know when you're when 2283 01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:21.000 you have the worst record and and you're not showing 2284 01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:25.840 that you're making any progress because this, this defensive malaise, 2285 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:28.520 if you will has been the mantra the last, couple of, 2286 01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:32.239 years you know, then then uh you you have. To 2287 01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:35.800 make changes so it wouldn't surprise me that they try 2288 01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:38.800 and make a. Lot, of moves uh make a. Lot 2289 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:41.720 of changes what? Does that yield what does? It look 2290 01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:45.880 like all those things you know are. UP for grabs 2291 01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:48.640 i think they're going to be doing a lot, Of, 2292 01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:53.640 soul searching uh in terms of what is the next 2293 01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:56.000 step that we're going to have to make to be 2294 01:49:56.119 --> 01:50:00.119 able to start seeing some kind of a relevant and 2295 01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:04.720 uh improvement in what we're. Trying, to do again, People 2296 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:09.479 get frustrated people get upset about what's what's taking place. At, 2297 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.159 the moment obviously you you go from hoping you get 2298 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:15.760 the first pick to the fifth pick, doesn't work out 2299 01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:19.560 and so now you're. Even More, frustrated but spence they've 2300 01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:22.319 only been doing this, for three years, and you know 2301 01:50:22.520 --> 01:50:26.720 sometimes these, things, take five, six seven years and and. 2302 01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:30.000 And sometimes, longer you know you don't have control over some, 2303 01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:33.079 of the things, like the draft like the draft. Lottery 2304 01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:37.359 last week so, to your point a lot of things 2305 01:50:37.399 --> 01:50:39.800 are gonna be, on the table a lot of things 2306 01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:42.760 are gonna they're gonna be. Trying to do how much, 2307 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:45.840 do they, do you know to to to The to 2308 01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:49.600 The danny angel a mantra of. Big game hunting they're 2309 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:52.119 gonna be trying to do a lot of that. In, 2310 01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:55.560 Different ways uh do they come, Back with anything do 2311 01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.680 they have a whole different scheme in terms of their 2312 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:03.000 team and and what their personnel looks, like In uh 2313 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:07.399 next october remains. To be SEEN but but i think 2314 01:51:07.479 --> 01:51:10.239 everything's on the table for them because they've gotta they've 2315 01:51:10.279 --> 01:51:12.680 got to show THAT they're which i know they're, willing 2316 01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:14.960 To do Because danny angels willing has shown in the 2317 01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:15.720 past he's willing. 2318 01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:15.800 To. 2319 01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:19.399 Do anything uh but they have to show that they 2320 01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:23.560 can start making moves that that look like they're making 2321 01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:27.119 improvement and look like that they're they're moving in. The, 2322 01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:30.119 right direction, uh you know, for the uh for the 2323 01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:33.680 benefit of their of their, season ticket, holders their fans 2324 01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:35.000 everybody who who are. 2325 01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:38.079 Diehard jazz fans do you think they approach next year 2326 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:41.279 with best foot forward instead of inventing Injuries And having 2327 01:51:41.359 --> 01:51:42.680 walker castler shoot seven. 2328 01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:43.760 Threes, A night well. 2329 01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:46.119 I think they i think they have to get they 2330 01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:49.560 have to make some kind of a show that looks 2331 01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:51.399 like they, are getting better. 2332 01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:51.920 They are. 2333 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:55.720 Improving you know to do another year of this thing 2334 01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:58.800 that they just did is going, to be difficult only 2335 01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:02.319 from the standpoint that they're gonna be having people breathing 2336 01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:06.119 down their, necks, to say hey you just did that 2337 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:10.039 and it didn't it, didn't work out so you're gonna, 2338 01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:14.359 do it, Again you know and so that's that's gonna 2339 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.520 that would be, a hard, sell you know to. Their 2340 01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:21.079 fan base and, uh and look nobody, wants to lose 2341 01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:24.000 and nobody wants to do. It on purpose everybody wants 2342 01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:26.359 to try and be a better. Version Of themselves and 2343 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:29.119 i'm sure they're gonna kick the tires on a lot 2344 01:52:29.199 --> 01:52:31.880 of different things in the next several, months to, see 2345 01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:34.239 you know how they can get that going in. 2346 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:36.520 The right direction great, to see. You my friend we'll 2347 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:38.239 let you. 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A little rsl the Head 2379 01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:07.680 Coach over al slake is our Guest on, A Tuesday Afternoon, 2380 01:54:07.840 --> 01:54:10.439 Pablo Master, eddie, happy tuesday sir how are We? 2381 01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:14.039 Doing having tuesday? Doing well, Yourself i'm. 2382 01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:16.359 WELL i'm well i hate to start with a, low 2383 01:54:16.439 --> 01:54:18.760 hanging fruit but it's, been a, minute my guy it's 2384 01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:20.800 been a minute since we've. SEEN a goal i believe 2385 01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:23.439 the official tally is two hundred and. FORTY six, minutes 2386 01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:27.039 i know we keep revisiting this and every week it 2387 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:31.479 feels like you are liking what you're seeing as far 2388 01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:34.319 as the chances that, have been created it's the finishing that. 2389 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:37.880 Is left wanting are you still? In, that space, YEAH 2390 01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:38.239 you know. 2391 01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:42.479 I think, so you know it's it's it's been tough 2392 01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:45.880 to see like the. Amount, OF times again i think 2393 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:47.880 one of the things that we've really worked on since 2394 01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:50.159 last year has been progressing the ball from our goal to. 2395 01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:54.760 Their opponents goal and and, to be fair it's. Not 2396 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:56.840 real sexy it gives us a lot of control, of 2397 01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:59.439 the game but we're really really. Proficient at that and, 2398 01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.079 then you know even this morning just broke down all 2399 01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:04.359 the different chances that some of them were not even, 2400 01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:08.079 getting shots on and they just come down to. Decision 2401 01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:11.239 making patience some we have, to go faster some we have, 2402 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:13.600 to go slower and so just kind of breaking the 2403 01:55:13.640 --> 01:55:16.800 different scenarios down for the guys so that they, can you. 2404 01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:18.840 Know digest it we. Can train it, we, train it 2405 01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:20.880 say we'll train it the rest of this, week and, 2406 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:24.560 hopefully you know because if we don't have that one 2407 01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:26.560 guy that's, gonna you know and dig a little has 2408 01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:28.439 been that guy and it's obviously a big burden to 2409 01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:31.000 carry and it's not going to, Happen every game so 2410 01:55:31.159 --> 01:55:35.720 how can we now figure out different solutions more as 2411 01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:39.239 a front five as opposed to just relying on one. 2412 01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:42.840 Or two guys and so that's that's really the methodology 2413 01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:45.239 that we're going to take as to how we're going 2414 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:48.239 to flip this around and find more ways to goals 2415 01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:50.520 and then hopefully if for those five front five are, 2416 01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:53.079 operating in unison then we can release a pivot a 2417 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:56.079 little bit higher that'll give us. A six attacker, so 2418 01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.760 that hopefully again doing, it by numbers doing, it by 2419 01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:02.039 committee and doing it more, as a collective and so that's, 2420 01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:06.239 it's been, frustrating but, again you, know you know we 2421 01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:08.079 have all the pieces that we're going to have for for, 2422 01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:11.640 the time being and the onnesses on myself to and 2423 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:16.479 the coaches to find solutions to get these guys hitting 2424 01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:17.079 balls in the back. 2425 01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:19.920 Of, the, NED look man i know you're an extremely 2426 01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:23.399 POSITIVE person and i appreciate. That ABOUT you but i 2427 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:25.520 also watch you play for a, lot OF years and 2428 01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:26.960 I feel like i know you, a LITTLE bit and 2429 01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:30.039 i know that there's a stone cold killer and a competitor. 2430 01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:33.840 In there somewhere at what point does it does? It 2431 01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:36.960 become frustrating at what point does it become like WHAT 2432 01:56:37.079 --> 01:56:38.880 else can i do to get this thing going in? 2433 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:38.960 The? 2434 01:56:39.039 --> 01:56:41.039 Right direction yeah, YOU. 2435 01:56:41.079 --> 01:56:44.880 Know AGAIN i think i, think we, are you know 2436 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:47.600 proud To say that i've evolved a little. Bit from, 2437 01:56:47.680 --> 01:56:49.960 THAT from, THAT i mean i still have that, deep 2438 01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:53.000 deep INSIDE or else i wouldn't be in this in 2439 01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:56.960 this profession because it is. All about winning, but, there's 2440 01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:00.560 also like, YOU know what i have to be the 2441 01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:02.560 example for the rest, of, The GUYS right like i 2442 01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:04.800 can sit here and be frustrated until my hands in 2443 01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:06.479 the air. And place blame but at the end, of the, 2444 01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:10.560 DAY you know i have to have. A cool head 2445 01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:13.720 i have. TO find solutions i have to relay and 2446 01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:18.000 sell that solution. To the players and and that's the 2447 01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:20.399 that's the that's the beauty, of the, scraft you know 2448 01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:22.680 because it's it's really, easy, to, say hey listen we 2449 01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:26.039 lost forty something goals. From last year we're not going 2450 01:57:26.119 --> 01:57:28.520 to be able. To score goals but the beauty of 2451 01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:32.800 coaching is finding different solutions. To new problems and and, 2452 01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:36.359 so for, me you know the one thing identified identify 2453 01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:38.520 three different things in the attack that we the ways we. 2454 01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:41.960 Can score goals one is, offensive, set pieces right and 2455 01:57:42.119 --> 01:57:45.279 that's nothing to do with. Anyone in particular that's good 2456 01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:47.079 delivery and bravery and getting. 2457 01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:47.119 In. 2458 01:57:47.159 --> 01:57:52.800 The box uh the other part is decisions and execution in. 2459 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:54.319 The final third and those are the things that we're 2460 01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:55.840 going to continue. To work on that we worked on 2461 01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:57.239 today and we work on the rest. Of the week 2462 01:57:58.520 --> 01:58:02.520 and and the third thing is is making sure our 2463 01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:05.159 shape behind the ball is such that we can create 2464 01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:09.960 repetitive attacks and releasing a pivot and and so that 2465 01:58:10.079 --> 01:58:12.279 we can from one attack we can get three. Or 2466 01:58:12.279 --> 01:58:16.239 four opportunities so like that is that that's our action plan. 2467 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:18.399 For the week that's that's those are the areas that 2468 01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:22.479 we've identified we. Can MAKE games and i think that's 2469 01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:24.319 what the that's where. My focus lies so when you, 2470 01:58:24.399 --> 01:58:28.359 talk about frustration it's when you stop coming up with 2471 01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:32.520 different pathways to. ACHIEVE a goal i think is when. 2472 01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:35.399 You GET frustrated and i think from a coaching perspective 2473 01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:39.920 that frustration. Is about yourself and so that's WHERE that's 2474 01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:42.479 where i stay positive because there's. Always a solution you 2475 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:44.279 just have to ask the right questions to get to 2476 01:58:44.359 --> 01:58:47.159 the right to the right solutions and and and put 2477 01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:50.560 a game plan in place. To achieve those and so that's, 2478 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:54.039 the plan, obviously you know, LIKE you said i think 2479 01:58:54.119 --> 01:58:56.239 winning is the thing that drives to all, of us 2480 01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.520 athletes is it is. The holy grail and when you're, 2481 01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:01.720 not doing that and it's really easy to get, down 2482 01:59:01.840 --> 01:59:05.079 on yourself down on, down on everyone. Down on life 2483 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:09.039 but but it's really about being resilient and for, me 2484 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:13.439 more importantly being the type of me behaving like the 2485 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:14.760 TYPE of player i want to see out. In the 2486 01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:18.479 field and that's even though it's it's it's, not going well, 2487 01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:22.159 you still, believe you're positive, you're finding solutions and you're 2488 01:59:22.279 --> 01:59:24.760 proaching every day like it's a great opportunity, to get 2489 01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:26.239 better fair. 2490 01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:29.039 ENOUGH impressive growth i was going to make a joke 2491 01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:30.680 about sending my father to fight you in. 2492 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:32.039 The locker room but we don't have to, Do, that 2493 01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:33.479 today pablo we. Can leave. 2494 01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:35.119 That i'm. 2495 01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:38.159 Impressed i'm impressed you're a great example to somebody like 2496 01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:40.319 me who has a little FIRE that you i don't 2497 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:42.720 need to throw them Monopoly board If i'm playing monopoly 2498 01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:46.279 with my eight. Year, Old, nephew, Okay like yeah. I'M 2499 01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:49.119 with YOU i just i hate to, keep, DIGGING here 2500 01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:51.439 MAN i just. I DON'T know like i watch your, 2501 01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:54.239 post game presser and there was a little something There 2502 01:59:54.279 --> 01:59:56.840 after the COLORADO l and i see on, THE sideline 2503 01:59:56.880 --> 01:59:59.520 like i just have To imagine if I'm as if 2504 01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:02.800 i'm AS frustrated as i am watching your club and, 2505 02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:05.039 ATTACK right now i just have to imagine at times 2506 02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:08.439 you're looking around at teams that have payrolls ten times, 2507 02:00:08.720 --> 02:00:12.119 more than yours and we were all expecting something more 2508 02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:14.840 during the, primary transfer whinno and, It didn't come like? 2509 02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:17.960 HOW are you I guess what, i'll ask is how 2510 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.439 are you digesting all this stuff when it does feel 2511 02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:22.520 like you're entering a lot of matches up against it 2512 02:00:22.600 --> 02:00:23.720 based off the players you have. 2513 02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:28.960 At. Your, disposal yeah again you, know IT'S crazy and 2514 02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:33.199 I guess maybe i'm, an eternal optimist but like it's so, 2515 02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:37.760 hard to build like to build teams that are perennial 2516 02:00:37.920 --> 02:00:42.399 playoff contenders and championship like, it takes time AND that's 2517 02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:44.119 why I want to i'll go BACK to what i said, 2518 02:00:44.199 --> 02:00:47.319 at the beginning is we started this project last year 2519 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:51.840 as far as changing our shape and really being ball 2520 02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:55.199 secure and ball dominant in the way we built. From 2521 02:00:55.199 --> 02:00:58.279 the back, and you know there's a bunch of crazy. 2522 02:00:58.319 --> 02:00:59.760 Stats there is we're one of the top teams in 2523 02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:02.279 the he is going from our goal to our, opponent's, 2524 02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:05.600 Final third right so that's a stat and no one 2525 02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:09.359 cares about that's that's useless information as far as you 2526 02:01:09.439 --> 02:01:12.479 know results go. Game to game the hardest thing to 2527 02:01:12.520 --> 02:01:14.760 do in soccer is really. That FINAL third and i 2528 02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:18.399 just feel that we are so close to hit in 2529 02:01:18.439 --> 02:01:21.720 the back. Of the net and there's all. IN every 2530 02:01:21.760 --> 02:01:24.079 game i can show you six or seven different if 2531 02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:27.319 there was one, decision made differently it would have hit 2532 02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:29.760 the back. Of the net and you obviously can't, joystick 2533 02:01:29.800 --> 02:01:33.159 the guys so you're giving them information and they're learning 2534 02:01:33.199 --> 02:01:35.359 on the fly and so they're trying to digest this 2535 02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:38.800 information and delivered. In real time, AND so like i 2536 02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:41.920 feel really good about our offense until we get to, 2537 02:01:42.039 --> 02:01:45.239 the final third and that's really. Where you know and 2538 02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:48.159 you saw it last year With guys like gomez and guys, Like. 2539 02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:51.279 You know chicho they were scoring goals with VERY little 2540 02:01:51.439 --> 02:01:54.039 x g and it made the coaching seem like we 2541 02:01:54.119 --> 02:01:56.920 were geniuses, at, The time right and it was really. 2542 02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:58.760 Them making plays AND that's what i was alluding to, 2543 02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:02.399 after the game is like just somebody smash the ball 2544 02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:05.000 on top bind from, twenty yards, out you know somebody 2545 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:07.479 to get across the front of the defender and flick 2546 02:02:07.520 --> 02:02:10.359 one in, the back. Post you know and it's just. 2547 02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:13.600 About making, plays but oftentimes when you're not scoring a, Lot, 2548 02:02:13.640 --> 02:02:15.960 of goals spence what ends up happening is that run 2549 02:02:16.079 --> 02:02:18.079 is a, little bit late that passes a little bit 2550 02:02:18.159 --> 02:02:20.840 late because you, start overthinking, it you know and. It 2551 02:02:20.920 --> 02:02:24.439 doesn't come it's not, natural, To you right we're not 2552 02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:28.640 operating in, the flow state and so it is it's 2553 02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:31.800 tough and AGAIN and and i actually feel for the, 2554 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:34.399 it's MY frustration but i feel for the guys because 2555 02:02:34.840 --> 02:02:36.760 it's very difficult to come in after damn. The same 2556 02:02:36.840 --> 02:02:39.640 guys but ninety percent, of the game you guys on 2557 02:02:39.720 --> 02:02:41.439 both sides of the ball are doing. A great JOB 2558 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.319 and and i can't give them the, the you know 2559 02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:49.279 the the know how in real time where seconds and 2560 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:52.399 inches are the difference between scoring. And not scoring that 2561 02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:55.560 type of EXPERIENCE one because i was in a, goal 2562 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:58.800 scorer myself, but they, just you know they're just lacking 2563 02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:02.840 in that little bit of, that that polish that, that that. 2564 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:06.479 Nouse you know and AND and like, I Said earlier 2565 02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:08.640 jego lun has been the guy that's been doing, that 2566 02:03:08.760 --> 02:03:11.800 for us and it's impossible to expect a guy that 2567 02:03:11.960 --> 02:03:15.720 hasn't typically, scored you know ten fifteen twenty goals a 2568 02:03:15.760 --> 02:03:18.039 season to be that guy. Every single GAME and so 2569 02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:20.359 i feel for him as well because he's doing a 2570 02:03:20.640 --> 02:03:23.840 ton of. Work for us and at the end, of 2571 02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:26.239 the day we all as a team come into that, 2572 02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:29.680 locker room frustrated and it's really about one phase of 2573 02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:31.239 the game that can really turn this thing, on the 2574 02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:35.039 screws and, so it's, it's you know, if nothing else 2575 02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:37.399 it's gonna it's going to bring, our you KNOW the 2576 02:03:37.439 --> 02:03:39.199 way i feel about the way. We train today it's 2577 02:03:39.319 --> 02:03:43.239 again two days for me are are the day because after, 2578 02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:46.079 a tough result you can you, can drop tools. You 2579 02:03:46.199 --> 02:03:49.199 cannot believe but these guys got after today and they're 2580 02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:51.640 full of belief and commitment and the energy was. Just 2581 02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:54.600 spot on and, so you know as long as, we 2582 02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:57.000 have that we have we we we do. Have a 2583 02:03:57.119 --> 02:03:59.920 chance and so now it's just about as a collective, 2584 02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:04.119 working extremely hard believing harder than anyone doows because once 2585 02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:06.399 you get, the first goal, the second goal then they 2586 02:04:06.439 --> 02:04:08.800 start coming in droves and who knows It might be 2587 02:04:08.880 --> 02:04:10.960 gozo that's going to be a ten goal. Score this year. 2588 02:04:12.439 --> 02:04:14.600 At the risk of, LABORING the point i HAVE one 2589 02:04:14.680 --> 02:04:17.640 more i guess not to be redundant point. To make 2590 02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:21.520 here and once upon A time in mls it was 2591 02:04:21.560 --> 02:04:24.159 a little bit different than. It is now like the 2592 02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:26.239 two thousand and nine team we had here that won 2593 02:04:26.279 --> 02:04:29.479 the cup was not near the highest BAID. Roster in 2594 02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:31.920 mls they beat the team that was the highest BAIDE 2595 02:04:31.960 --> 02:04:34.079 roster in mls that had A Guy named david beckham 2596 02:04:34.119 --> 02:04:36.319 on it had A Guy named landon. Donovan on it 2597 02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:39.880 the league has, changed sixteen years fifteen, sixteen years later. 2598 02:04:40.159 --> 02:04:42.159 So now we can talk about it as more of, 2599 02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:42.760 a grown up. 2600 02:04:42.800 --> 02:04:44.800 Big BOY league although i do think there are several 2601 02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:46.880 things about the infrastructure league that need to. 2602 02:04:46.920 --> 02:04:49.880 Be looked at that's, just me personally AND, WHETHER, IT'S. 2603 02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:54.640 Nfl nba nhl there, Is, one thing pablo and it's 2604 02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:57.920 NOW prevalent in mls they can even, the playing field 2605 02:04:58.000 --> 02:05:02.239 and that is economic investment meant in, talent period. Period, 2606 02:05:02.359 --> 02:05:05.119 period period okay it didn't used to, be that way 2607 02:05:05.199 --> 02:05:07.560 but it. Is that way and you have not received 2608 02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:09.680 that from the front office. Or the ownership, you, Just 2609 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:12.600 HAVEN'T okay so i just need to know how that lands, With, YOU. 2610 02:05:16.720 --> 02:05:20.760 AGAIN SPENCE i i i mean There's times where i'm 2611 02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:23.119 watching other teams and the way they, go about It and, 2612 02:05:23.520 --> 02:05:26.479 and i'm saying if we, just had that just, that one, 2613 02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:31.119 GUY because again, i YOU know we're i, think we're 2614 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:35.119 two two attacking players away from being a top team 2615 02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:37.960 in this in this conference and. In this league two 2616 02:05:38.079 --> 02:05:42.680 top and, Again, why too well one because they'll help, 2617 02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:46.279 with the goals but two it Will also activate luna in. 2618 02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:48.640 A different, Way right now luna is the guy that's, 2619 02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:52.119 been double, team triple teams and it just it's it's 2620 02:05:52.279 --> 02:05:56.039 and it's a tough ask, to you know to to 2621 02:05:56.239 --> 02:05:59.439 ask a guy, like you, know you know dom or 2622 02:05:59.560 --> 02:06:02.880 goes Up or His SEUs or wolf, or you know 2623 02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:05.960 to be the guy that scores goals when you know historically. 2624 02:06:06.039 --> 02:06:09.920 It hasn't HAPPENED and so i agree that investment. Is 2625 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:12.960 really important you've got. To HAVE that and i do 2626 02:06:13.119 --> 02:06:16.520 believe with two players that that we can we be 2627 02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:20.520 and no one would. Recognize our team they wouldn't recognize 2628 02:06:20.520 --> 02:06:24.359 all the work that's being done, and the commitment, the 2629 02:06:24.720 --> 02:06:29.079 the graph the quality from our goal to to. The 2630 02:06:29.119 --> 02:06:32.399 FINAL third but i think that, TWO players, would i 2631 02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:36.199 mean two players, have proven experience would would make the 2632 02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:38.960 biggest difference. In the world and and, And you know 2633 02:06:39.039 --> 02:06:41.199 I've talked To. KURT and jason i think we're all 2634 02:06:41.199 --> 02:06:43.520 on the same page as as to what we need in, 2635 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:47.439 order to, be you know. A real, contender because again 2636 02:06:47.479 --> 02:06:51.199 it's really hard to get all. The Phases right and 2637 02:06:51.279 --> 02:06:54.239 i'm saying we have on both sides. OF the ball 2638 02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:56.880 i would, say we, have you know five of the. 2639 02:06:56.960 --> 02:07:00.199 Six phases unlocked well we're up there with the top. 2640 02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:01.760 Of the league but the one that sticks out the 2641 02:07:01.800 --> 02:07:03.960 most is, that final third and, like you said two 2642 02:07:04.039 --> 02:07:07.159 hundred and something minutes. Without a, goal you know that's 2643 02:07:07.479 --> 02:07:10.680 that's where the pressure just keeps mountain. On the defense 2644 02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:13.479 it keeps mounting on the guys trying to score goals 2645 02:07:13.479 --> 02:07:16.880 because they're just not coming in and offensively try to do. 2646 02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:20.359 More than defensively you can only withstand so much pressure 2647 02:07:20.439 --> 02:07:23.239 before you know you're playing from a place if we can't, 2648 02:07:23.279 --> 02:07:25.039 get one up because, if we do how are we going? 2649 02:07:25.079 --> 02:07:27.960 To SCORE goals and i just think those two top 2650 02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:31.359 players would alleviate all that for us and would put 2651 02:07:31.399 --> 02:07:31.560 us in. 2652 02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:33.840 The right, direction all right we can move. 2653 02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:36.520 Off of it the, sun Is, shining it's tuesday it's, 2654 02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:38.560 a nice day so let's move. Off OF it but 2655 02:07:38.640 --> 02:07:40.039 i do HAVE one more i don't know if it's, 2656 02:07:40.039 --> 02:07:42.439 an uncomfortable question But you took diego off in the 2657 02:07:42.479 --> 02:07:45.439 fifty eighth, minute pre planned sending A message something. 2658 02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:48.039 I'm not seeing? What was it what went? Into, that decision, 2659 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:49.239 NO you know. 2660 02:07:49.439 --> 02:07:52.399 I think after, REVIEWING the game i probably should have. 2661 02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:55.520 Left them, on you know he was he was Leggy 2662 02:07:55.600 --> 02:07:58.399 on the, wednesday at home and probably left him on 2663 02:07:58.479 --> 02:08:00.319 for twenty. Minutes too, LONG but again i think, this 2664 02:08:00.880 --> 02:08:03.279 for me it's just it's just it's a it's a tough. Situation, 2665 02:08:03.399 --> 02:08:06.359 As WELL right so i probably left him on twenty 2666 02:08:06.399 --> 02:08:08.479 minutes too Long in, the Portland game but i'm, thinking 2667 02:08:08.520 --> 02:08:11.359 to myself, we're at home we. Need to win who's 2668 02:08:11.359 --> 02:08:14.359 going to? Score? The goals RIGHT so then i left 2669 02:08:14.439 --> 02:08:17.880 Him on. The colorado game he was he was leggy 2670 02:08:17.920 --> 02:08:19.520 from the start and came at the, halftime, HE says 2671 02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:21.720 COACH i got i got MORE tank and, i was, 2672 02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:24.319 like all right well let's let's. See it now and, 2673 02:08:24.520 --> 02:08:27.640 to be FAIR when when i decided in, the sixtieth 2674 02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:31.000 minute he wasn't really involved in the play except right before. 2675 02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:32.800 He came out and AT that moment i should have 2676 02:08:32.800 --> 02:08:34.760 pulled the sub, back, And said no diego is going, 2677 02:08:34.800 --> 02:08:36.960 to win, this you know win this. Game for us 2678 02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:40.079 and so that's probably, the you know, that's on me. 2679 02:08:40.840 --> 02:08:43.640 But it was but it's, also you know three games 2680 02:08:43.680 --> 02:08:46.399 in a row where he's put. In max, effort you 2681 02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:48.840 know the amount of running he does is. Through the 2682 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:51.720 roof we're playing down A, Man IN dallas so i 2683 02:08:51.880 --> 02:08:55.880 was half cognizant of not running them. Through the, ringer 2684 02:08:56.960 --> 02:08:59.199 you know he wasn't really involved, in THE game and, I, 2685 02:08:59.319 --> 02:09:01.640 was like okay, maybe this, is you know an opportunity for. 2686 02:09:01.760 --> 02:09:05.199 Some FRESH legs but i THINK in hindsight i should 2687 02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:07.479 have kept them on and maybe run him. Through the 2688 02:09:07.560 --> 02:09:09.960 ringer but then my biggest fear is if you lose A, 2689 02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:14.079 guy like luna then then then it's. Catastrophic as well 2690 02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:16.680 so it's it's it's all those different variables that, went 2691 02:09:16.720 --> 02:09:20.359 into it, but after review you should have left them. 2692 02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:21.920 IN the game i like that. 2693 02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:25.399 Transparency and honesty but speaking of the potential of losing A, 2694 02:09:25.399 --> 02:09:28.199 GUY like luna i Was, not in colorado which is probably. 2695 02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:29.000 Why you lost but we've. 2696 02:09:29.039 --> 02:09:31.920 Been OVER that so i Was watching the apple broadcast 2697 02:09:32.119 --> 02:09:36.239 when something really, caught my ear namely the broadcaster, Saying 2698 02:09:36.279 --> 02:09:39.319 that you pablo told them that you'd Be Surprised if 2699 02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:42.640 diego luna is still with the club After the summer. 2700 02:09:42.720 --> 02:09:46.880 European transfer window is that something that, you told them, 2701 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:48.279 and if so can you elaborate? 2702 02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:48.359 On? 2703 02:09:48.479 --> 02:09:51.680 That, PLEASE yeah no i think that was complete. 2704 02:09:51.840 --> 02:09:57.560 Out, of, context Okay okay yeahs luna is a guy 2705 02:09:57.680 --> 02:10:00.479 that is near and dear, to my heart only because 2706 02:10:00.680 --> 02:10:03.079 the transformation that he's had since, he's been here and. 2707 02:10:03.319 --> 02:10:08.239 And obviously that's That's all on luna because he the 2708 02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:11.359 work that. He's put, in and, uh you know we 2709 02:10:11.439 --> 02:10:15.239 Were talking, about LUNA'S trajectory and, i was saying when, 2710 02:10:15.279 --> 02:10:16.680 he got here he didn't want to didn't, want to 2711 02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:19.560 defend didn't want to, help the team could could, care less, 2712 02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:22.000 about you know just the only thing he really wanted 2713 02:10:22.119 --> 02:10:24.720 was get. On THE ball and i was talking about 2714 02:10:24.840 --> 02:10:29.159 how the national team is speaking about him and how 2715 02:10:29.680 --> 02:10:32.520 they say he's a guy that plays. With stones right 2716 02:10:32.640 --> 02:10:34.479 he steps on the field and he has a presence 2717 02:10:34.840 --> 02:10:39.800 so even when maybe the attacking, stuff isn't working that 2718 02:10:40.039 --> 02:10:43.039 he still contributes massively to the team and the spirit. 2719 02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:45.199 Of the team AND so then i said it was 2720 02:10:45.479 --> 02:10:48.680 it was in context to how how fast he's got 2721 02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:51.319 he's gone from the player he was to the. Player 2722 02:10:51.399 --> 02:10:54.439 he IS and, so i said along, THAT same trajectory 2723 02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:56.600 i wouldn't be surprised if he's not here at the end, 2724 02:10:56.640 --> 02:10:58.399 of the summer because someone's going to come in and 2725 02:10:58.439 --> 02:11:00.800 pay twenty five million dollars or ever it is to take, 2726 02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:03.680 him somewhere. Else YOU know but i THINK and and 2727 02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:05.560 i think the big the biggest thing with that is too, 2728 02:11:05.680 --> 02:11:08.039 is you know with with, the ownership CHANGE there is 2729 02:11:08.319 --> 02:11:12.359 uh and it's just been mentioned, to me recently which 2730 02:11:12.439 --> 02:11:16.239 is really exciting is ownership doesn't want to sell. Players 2731 02:11:16.640 --> 02:11:19.319 moving forward they want to build a team that the 2732 02:11:19.399 --> 02:11:24.159 community can, get, to know support have, their favorite players 2733 02:11:24.600 --> 02:11:28.960 and build and build, something that's. Long long term and 2734 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:32.520 so that was. News, TO me obviously i never Want. 2735 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:35.560 TO lose luna i think that he's he's a player that, 2736 02:11:35.680 --> 02:11:38.239 can you know A Lot like hobby morales back, in 2737 02:11:38.319 --> 02:11:41.439 the day where he's. A game changer he's a he's 2738 02:11:41.560 --> 02:11:44.399 he's a guy that, starts the attack. Finishes the attacks 2739 02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:48.520 he's he's one of the most likable people you will 2740 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:52.520 ever meet in your life and someone that you always want. To, 2741 02:11:52.600 --> 02:11:55.239 root for so at least, from my, perspective you know 2742 02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:57.960 If if if luna stays here, at the club it 2743 02:11:57.960 --> 02:12:00.640 would BE it'd be i think the best thing for, 2744 02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:03.439 ourselves moving forward because he is a he is a 2745 02:12:03.479 --> 02:12:07.920 PLAYER that is i wouldn't, say is irreplaceable but you'd 2746 02:12:08.000 --> 02:12:10.960 have to you'd have to open up the bank to 2747 02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:14.199 get a player that it is committed and has the 2748 02:12:14.279 --> 02:12:17.199 type of investment that. That he has as an attacking 2749 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:20.600 player on both sides. Of the ball, that that is that, 2750 02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:24.079 is just, starting you know to make the leap from 2751 02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:28.520 young player. Too now superstar SO that that i think 2752 02:12:28.640 --> 02:12:30.920 so that was that was taken. Out of Context it 2753 02:12:31.039 --> 02:12:33.479 was it wasn't me Wanting. TO move lunan i was 2754 02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:36.479 just speaking towards his trajectory and how. Fast IT'S been 2755 02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:39.840 and i wouldn't be surprised given how how far he's 2756 02:12:39.880 --> 02:12:42.760 coming a year, and a half two years to where he. 2757 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:46.079 Could potentially go but hopefully it's here at ourselves for. 2758 02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:48.000 The LONG term so i think it's safe To Say 2759 02:12:48.039 --> 02:12:50.359 that Gail Miller and steve starks listen to the Show 2760 02:12:50.600 --> 02:12:54.199 because that's i've just been begging. For, This, Forever, pablo hey, 2761 02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:57.039 porter real quick will you go ahead and formulate a 2762 02:12:57.079 --> 02:12:59.680 Press release that pablo on the Show Has indicated diego 2763 02:12:59.760 --> 02:13:00.800 luna is going TO be an rsl. 2764 02:13:00.880 --> 02:13:01.600 Man for life can you? 2765 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:01.760 Get? 2766 02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:04.680 That done, yeah. Thank, you sir okay. 2767 02:13:04.800 --> 02:13:07.560 THAT kid buck i know the bottom line of what 2768 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:09.960 the club is, trying to do, But that news pablo 2769 02:13:10.239 --> 02:13:11.199 is something that is also. 2770 02:13:11.279 --> 02:13:13.199 News to me that had to be music. To, your 2771 02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:16.920 ears yes, TO be fair, i. 2772 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:19.600 MEAN again and i think this is like a big 2773 02:13:19.680 --> 02:13:22.039 part of like the unknowns that have been. Kind of 2774 02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:25.359 happening the underpinnings is obviously the move of the, transfer 2775 02:13:25.399 --> 02:13:29.279 of ownership and obviously there's different philosophies. Of different groups 2776 02:13:30.439 --> 02:13:34.199 AND working With Gfh and david blitzer. Has been amazing 2777 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:36.159 it's opened my eyes with different ways. Of doing things 2778 02:13:36.600 --> 02:13:39.479 they care, about the club they look at it from, 2779 02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:42.640 a different PERSPECTIVE and so I think the miller's, being 2780 02:13:43.039 --> 02:13:46.399 you know Family here in utah for so many years 2781 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:49.880 and love their sports and want to build something that 2782 02:13:49.960 --> 02:13:53.079 the fans can hang. Their hat on is just think 2783 02:13:53.079 --> 02:13:55.359 about it from. A coaching, perspective you know we put 2784 02:13:55.359 --> 02:13:58.159 a lot, of you know time and energy into a 2785 02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:00.680 guy Like on grayce gomez, where you know he came 2786 02:14:00.760 --> 02:14:04.439 in wasn't proven and it took about a year for 2787 02:14:04.560 --> 02:14:06.079 him to get up to speed and then he just 2788 02:14:06.159 --> 02:14:08.279 took off. Like A rocket, and i, thought you know 2789 02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:11.800 it just feels like you're almost like, a you know 2790 02:14:11.920 --> 02:14:15.399 you're you're raising these you're helping develop, these young players 2791 02:14:15.600 --> 02:14:17.520 and then they leave at the time where you think 2792 02:14:17.560 --> 02:14:20.880 they can, make huge impacts not only. At the club from. 2793 02:14:20.880 --> 02:14:24.199 A plane perspective but in the community and and and, 2794 02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:26.199 and you know Like guys like beckerman that we're at 2795 02:14:26.239 --> 02:14:29.840 the club. A long time i mean Fans, you say 2796 02:14:29.880 --> 02:14:32.000 beckerman and everyone knows who, you're talking about and it's 2797 02:14:32.079 --> 02:14:35.760 like it. Just feels good and from, a coaching perspective 2798 02:14:36.159 --> 02:14:38.439 it's great, to see, that you know some of the the, 2799 02:14:38.640 --> 02:14:41.319 time and energy and it's. NOT all soccer a lot 2800 02:14:41.399 --> 02:14:43.319 of it's about life and and how to be a 2801 02:14:43.319 --> 02:14:45.640 good pro and how to look after yourself and how 2802 02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:48.079 to how, to you know how to carry a, little, 2803 02:14:48.119 --> 02:14:51.199 bit more, uh you know responsibility and all these little 2804 02:14:51.239 --> 02:14:53.560 things that you go and see these guys and and, 2805 02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:56.199 and You know and beckerman still lives here and so 2806 02:14:56.359 --> 02:14:58.520 now he's given back. To the COMMUNITY so it's i 2807 02:14:58.600 --> 02:15:00.600 think it's a gift that. Keeps on giving but from 2808 02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:04.159 our standpoint as coaches is it makes the work more 2809 02:15:04.279 --> 02:15:07.960 meaningful when you know that there's a that they could 2810 02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:11.560 potentially be, here long term and it just you can. 2811 02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:12.920 Go all in it's not like a. 2812 02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:16.039 Short term thing you can go all in and make 2813 02:15:16.079 --> 02:15:20.119 the necessary decisions to help them, more LONGER term which 2814 02:15:20.239 --> 02:15:24.119 i think is even. Better for him so music TO 2815 02:15:24.199 --> 02:15:27.199 my ears i think that's why, we do it is 2816 02:15:27.279 --> 02:15:30.359 to build, something that sustainable build a team that can 2817 02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.159 be a perennial playoff team that competes with. Trophies every 2818 02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:36.279 year and the only way you do. That is, continuity and, 2819 02:15:36.760 --> 02:15:39.560 so You know helping luna, in his journey, but more 2820 02:15:39.600 --> 02:15:44.279 importantly having the ability to keep them around is, truly 2821 02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:46.840 you know music, to my ears, as you said. 2822 02:15:46.720 --> 02:15:48.399 Yeah for sure and look you nailed it. At the 2823 02:15:48.520 --> 02:15:50.800 end it's also the only, way. To win dude. It 2824 02:15:51.039 --> 02:15:52.159 just is it's the only. 2825 02:15:52.239 --> 02:15:54.920 Way to, win like otherwise we're, spinning our wheels the. 2826 02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:58.199 Fans are upset there's nobody that's your long term and 2827 02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:01.159 it does a. Disservice to you so we'll end on 2828 02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:03.199 one more Positive note that i'll set you. LOOSE after 2829 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:05.680 this i think he got something in. THIS gozo kid 2830 02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:08.239 i don't know, much about him but you've been giving 2831 02:16:08.279 --> 02:16:10.800 them times and starts over the. Past little, bit and, 2832 02:16:11.079 --> 02:16:13.800 look he's, young he's raw but you can see, there's something. 2833 02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:17.920 There isn't there i'll, tell you what and it's, a little. 2834 02:16:17.960 --> 02:16:20.399 BIT you know i don't want to go crazy with the, 2835 02:16:21.039 --> 02:16:23.600 with THE comparisons because i think they're all very unique. 2836 02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:25.039 But raw. 2837 02:16:25.199 --> 02:16:26.800 Talent he has. 2838 02:16:28.279 --> 02:16:31.600 The one thing That's, true with andrea's That's True, with 2839 02:16:31.880 --> 02:16:35.120 diego luna And true with gozo is that, they're, All 2840 02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:38.000 learners right so the young players with a, lot of 2841 02:16:38.079 --> 02:16:41.159 talent but they're also aware that they, don't know everything 2842 02:16:41.760 --> 02:16:43.879 and so what they do is they, go you know 2843 02:16:44.040 --> 02:16:46.000 you give. THEM you know i Was working with gozo 2844 02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:47.959 today on, is crossing right because THAT'S an area i 2845 02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:50.319 think he, can make games and just gave him a 2846 02:16:50.920 --> 02:16:53.159 just a way to think about how he, crosses the 2847 02:16:53.200 --> 02:16:56.719 ball and he started delivering. Really good balls and, so 2848 02:16:57.120 --> 02:16:59.840 it's like this, is for me the beauty of coaching 2849 02:17:00.120 --> 02:17:02.680 is like, sharing your experience, but more important you have 2850 02:17:02.760 --> 02:17:05.600 to have a willing. Participant receiving it if, they know 2851 02:17:05.760 --> 02:17:08.120 everything then there's no there's no need, for, A coach 2852 02:17:08.280 --> 02:17:11.600 RIGHT and so i think those are the similarities between the. 2853 02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:15.440 Three OF them and I think what gozo has is really, 2854 02:17:15.600 --> 02:17:19.959 high end speed really high end, work rate defensively and 2855 02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:22.600 what he's doing every day after practice is sharpening his 2856 02:17:22.639 --> 02:17:25.760 tools in front, of the, goal, so, shooting crossing, passing 2857 02:17:26.159 --> 02:17:28.399 you know all. These little things and so there is 2858 02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:30.559 No doubt that gozo is going to be a top player. 2859 02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:33.280 In this, league and again is it two, years from 2860 02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:35.000 now is, it next year is it four? Years FROM 2861 02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:38.239 now is. I don't know but he has all the 2862 02:17:38.799 --> 02:17:43.079 footballing characteristics that can make him a, top, pro physical physical, and, 2863 02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:46.719 You know technical, but more importantly he's got the character 2864 02:17:46.920 --> 02:17:49.920 of A guy that i believe will be a learner and. 2865 02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:52.879 He'll get it he will, figure it out and he 2866 02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:56.319 will understand what his role is and what his craft 2867 02:17:56.520 --> 02:17:59.000 is and. Putting all together in the short term the 2868 02:17:59.040 --> 02:18:00.959 way he's helping our group because he just brings so 2869 02:18:01.079 --> 02:18:04.280 much enthusiasm and energy at a time where our team really. 2870 02:18:04.360 --> 02:18:06.559 Really needs it so he's been special, for US now 2871 02:18:06.959 --> 02:18:09.319 but i really believe he'll be a special player for 2872 02:18:09.399 --> 02:18:09.799 this club. 2873 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:11.000 In, The future well. 2874 02:18:11.159 --> 02:18:13.440 POB'S my guy i feel like, today with therapy we, 2875 02:18:13.719 --> 02:18:16.639 exercised some demons we talked, through some issues and then 2876 02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:17.879 we ended, in the nest in. 2877 02:18:17.920 --> 02:18:18.639 The, safe place. 2878 02:18:18.799 --> 02:18:22.360 Right let's go. IT'S all good. I appreciate you i'll 2879 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:23.840 send you the check for. The therapy. 2880 02:18:23.879 --> 02:18:26.319 Session Love It the pablo mationnroy Head Coach over al 2881 02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:29.120 salake rsl welcomes in the Best Team In Major league 2882 02:18:29.159 --> 02:18:32.920 soccer vancouver coming up seven Point. Thirty on saturday if 2883 02:18:32.959 --> 02:18:36.239 you missed that interview AND you're, an rsl fan the 2884 02:18:36.360 --> 02:18:39.360 big titbit Is that recently pablo was told that the, 2885 02:18:39.399 --> 02:18:41.600 new ownership group which of course Led by, the miller 2886 02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:45.319 family not interested in selling any of these. Young talented 2887 02:18:45.319 --> 02:18:48.120 players does that mean it. Will, never happen no but 2888 02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:50.040 it's the only way to win continuity. 2889 02:18:50.079 --> 02:18:52.040 Build. A roster man that. 2890 02:18:52.159 --> 02:18:54.000 Is good news if, you missed it check out the 2891 02:18:54.000 --> 02:18:56.159 website in. 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Offer lifetime warranties it's Our Friends 2934 02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:40.399 at cortland roofing and the number is eight oh one 2935 02:20:40.559 --> 02:20:42.120 six one five five five six. 2936 02:20:42.239 --> 02:20:44.479 Zero h right the. Playoffs are back. 2937 02:20:45.799 --> 02:20:48.399 Playoffs, are back tonight both in the world of professional 2938 02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:51.600 hockey and the world. Of professional basketball We're gonna Have 2939 02:20:51.719 --> 02:20:56.200 Carolida and florida game ONE here on espn SEVEN hundred 2940 02:20:56.280 --> 02:21:00.200 For okc and minnesota that can Be heard On i'm the. 2941 02:21:00.319 --> 02:21:02.319 Fan tomorrow night it Will be the Knicks, and the 2942 02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:05.559 celtics so stay. Tuned for that and on the hockey, 2943 02:21:05.600 --> 02:21:07.200 side of things it Will be the Oilers. And the 2944 02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:10.639 stars so the final four in both hockey AND in the. 2945 02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:14.719 Nba IS set can i get something off my chest 2946 02:21:14.760 --> 02:21:17.920 before we? Say good, Night of course i'm all for 2947 02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:24.280 like off. Season football conversation folks love football or the Home. 2948 02:21:24.319 --> 02:21:26.760 Of the utes do college football as much as. We 2949 02:21:26.840 --> 02:21:29.639 possibly can i'm not one just to piss topics on air. 2950 02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:33.360 THAT aren't applicable i am so over the debate about 2951 02:21:33.399 --> 02:21:35.479 whether or not the tush push should be, allowed. 2952 02:21:35.520 --> 02:21:37.120 Every, break, every day. 2953 02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:40.079 Man every day there's another update about This topic that 2954 02:21:40.239 --> 02:21:41.639 i'm just. Completely tired of. 2955 02:21:43.719 --> 02:21:47.719 Maybe, to your liking that debate will be over tomorrow 2956 02:21:47.760 --> 02:21:51.239 when the voter's the owners vote, to ban it which. 2957 02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:55.319 Is just silly. It's a play it's. 2958 02:21:55.360 --> 02:21:58.639 A quarterback sneak it's a quarterback sneak done by a 2959 02:21:58.760 --> 02:22:01.520 quarterback that squats five hundred pounds and a running back 2960 02:22:01.559 --> 02:22:03.920 that you know it does, more than that and an 2961 02:22:04.000 --> 02:22:06.840 offensive line that is maybe the best. In the league 2962 02:22:07.200 --> 02:22:09.239 but it's. A quarterback sneak if you want, to talk, 2963 02:22:09.280 --> 02:22:12.719 about you know assisting the runner and kurtelling those rules, a, 2964 02:22:12.760 --> 02:22:15.360 little bit okay but we're changing the rules around. A 2965 02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:18.600 quarterback sneak that is something that is being voted on 2966 02:22:18.719 --> 02:22:21.000 by a bunch of owners, around the league and it's 2967 02:22:21.040 --> 02:22:23.319 going to. BE approved tomorrow, i want, to you know 2968 02:22:23.639 --> 02:22:27.959 just preface that very little chance that it isn't and 2969 02:22:28.479 --> 02:22:30.959 it's because a bunch of teams Can't stop the eagles. 2970 02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:34.000 From doing it, and to me that's. It's pretty Dumb i'm. 2971 02:22:34.000 --> 02:22:36.719 A cowboys fan I, HATE the eagles, i you Know 2972 02:22:37.040 --> 02:22:41.040 Even though britain covey's. ON that roster i struggle cheering 2973 02:22:41.120 --> 02:22:41.559 for them To Win. 2974 02:22:41.639 --> 02:22:41.959 A super. 2975 02:22:41.959 --> 02:22:47.159 Bowl it's ridiculous if if you, can't stop it draft 2976 02:22:47.239 --> 02:22:51.680 That kid from florida and try. To stop it I'm 2977 02:22:51.719 --> 02:22:54.280 kind of i'm. Kind of bugged and the fact that 2978 02:22:54.399 --> 02:22:57.799 we continue to change sports to make them LIKE better 2979 02:22:57.879 --> 02:23:01.239 for tv and easier on the eyes, Is uh yeah 2980 02:23:01.319 --> 02:23:01.840 i'm not really on. 2981 02:23:02.040 --> 02:23:04.600 Board with it, it's pretty WILD how uh i? 2982 02:23:04.680 --> 02:23:07.840 Mean to me what this is is a testament THAT'S 2983 02:23:07.879 --> 02:23:11.959 how popular nfl football is that every single day we're 2984 02:23:11.959 --> 02:23:15.159 getting an update. On The tushbush, to porter's point if you, 2985 02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:17.159 don't like, it stop it and you don't change the 2986 02:23:17.239 --> 02:23:19.399 rules because you can't stop the play that's been legal 2987 02:23:20.000 --> 02:23:20.719 for decades and. 2988 02:23:20.799 --> 02:23:21.840 Decades and decades. 2989 02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:27.079 It's, just ridiculous also today it WAS unanimous that nfl 2990 02:23:27.200 --> 02:23:30.760 players are okay to play flag football in the Twenty. 2991 02:23:30.879 --> 02:23:33.280 TWENTY eighth olympics i, continue to ask who are. We 2992 02:23:33.360 --> 02:23:36.840 playing against football is really Only played in America and 2993 02:23:36.959 --> 02:23:37.600 maybe canada. 2994 02:23:37.639 --> 02:23:39.719 A little bit there's, a, little kicking. 2995 02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:43.000 Yeah there's a There's a few australian players that have 2996 02:23:43.399 --> 02:23:46.840 made IT. In, The Nfl Obviously mitch wi. SHNOWSKI a 2997 02:23:46.920 --> 02:23:49.520 punter i believe The forty nine ers had a punt 2998 02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:53.680 returner Who was. Of australian descent So, the the aussies, 2999 02:23:54.200 --> 02:23:59.799 they're gonna, have you know, some. Special teams guys you 3000 02:23:59.879 --> 02:24:02.760 know there, are a couple like like euro teams that. 3001 02:24:03.399 --> 02:24:06.280 STILL have organizations i don't know who, they really, play 3002 02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:10.239 but yeah. We'll, SEE it uh. 3003 02:24:10.639 --> 02:24:12.760 I don't know i just this whole thing has. Caught 3004 02:24:12.799 --> 02:24:13.079 me up we. 3005 02:24:13.120 --> 02:24:17.040 Should play ourselves they should have like multiple flag football 3006 02:24:17.079 --> 02:24:19.920 teams Comprised OF only american nfl players because it is 3007 02:24:20.600 --> 02:24:24.120 literally a sport that Has. Played in america it is 3008 02:24:24.159 --> 02:24:26.159 a game that you throw a football, with your hands 3009 02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:28.280 but there's. A little kicking there's, a little. 3010 02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:30.879 Kicking even though it's. Still called football we're getting rid of. 3011 02:24:30.879 --> 02:24:32.200 All the kicking how many? 3012 02:24:32.239 --> 02:24:33.280 Points is? It sometimes? 3013 02:24:33.319 --> 02:24:33.479 One? 3014 02:24:33.559 --> 02:24:37.040 Sometimes three right you SAW the? The, snl, skit. 3015 02:24:38.479 --> 02:24:38.639 Yeah. 3016 02:24:38.680 --> 02:24:40.280 Yeah excellent stuff those skits. 3017 02:24:40.319 --> 02:24:42.319 Are really funny they've DONE one on nfl But also 3018 02:24:42.399 --> 02:24:46.159 Like america. And english language. It's good stuff who you 3019 02:24:46.280 --> 02:24:46.959 Leaning Towards? T? 3020 02:24:47.120 --> 02:24:51.559 Wolves OKASE i honestly I think okay see is the, 3021 02:24:51.719 --> 02:24:55.680 Lean for sure but there's something About the way minnesota has. 3022 02:24:55.799 --> 02:24:58.959 A little, something i mean they've got several dudes they Can. 3023 02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:02.040 Throw at shay rudy's going to neutralize a lot of. 3024 02:25:02.079 --> 02:25:05.280 Their interior drives they love to. ATTACK the, bucket I 3025 02:25:05.360 --> 02:25:07.360 mean if i was putting, money On it, Which i'm 3026 02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:09.360 not i'd probably put it On, An OKAY see but 3027 02:25:09.399 --> 02:25:09.799 i would Not. 3028 02:25:09.920 --> 02:25:11.319 Look Past minnesota. 3029 02:25:10.920 --> 02:25:13.760 Okay see is the Better roster okay see, is you 3030 02:25:13.799 --> 02:25:16.239 know over the, next five years the team that we're 3031 02:25:16.239 --> 02:25:20.760 going to, be Talking. About NOT minnesota but i might 3032 02:25:20.840 --> 02:25:24.680 be Leaning towards the timberwolves. Just right now, they've been 3033 02:25:24.760 --> 02:25:29.399 there they know what a conference. Finals looks like they 3034 02:25:29.440 --> 02:25:33.719 have a bunch of players who have decades long careers building. 3035 02:25:33.760 --> 02:25:38.040 Towards This Moment while oka see. Is MORE talented while 3036 02:25:38.159 --> 02:25:42.520 i believe that you know almost every box of WHICH 3037 02:25:42.719 --> 02:25:46.440 which way i lean Goes, TOWARDS ok see i kind 3038 02:25:46.479 --> 02:25:49.719 of have a Feeling That the minnesota timberwolves pull, this 3039 02:25:49.799 --> 02:25:52.840 one out and they do so behind the veteran leadership that. 3040 02:25:52.920 --> 02:25:53.360 They do have. 3041 02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:58.239 There is one there is ONE thing that i am 3042 02:25:58.319 --> 02:26:01.559 looking for, In, the series spence The Narrative of rudy 3043 02:26:01.639 --> 02:26:03.959 gobert being like tough to play in the playoffs or 3044 02:26:04.200 --> 02:26:07.079 sometimes played off the floor in the playoffs is. Mostly 3045 02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:11.360 completely unwarranted but, in this series, in this matchup there 3046 02:26:11.399 --> 02:26:13.600 are some guys that that that okay se can throw 3047 02:26:13.639 --> 02:26:17.159 at him to, space the Floor to put rudy in 3048 02:26:17.239 --> 02:26:22.200 the situations that we Saw where the jazz, were asking, 3049 02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:25.000 him you know not. Out Of position the jazz were 3050 02:26:25.079 --> 02:26:27.760 asking him to guard two players at a time, in 3051 02:26:27.879 --> 02:26:30.719 the corner in the short corner and still continue to 3052 02:26:30.959 --> 02:26:33.799 to to. Guard the post that's, something that okay see 3053 02:26:33.840 --> 02:26:37.200 can maybe go back and look at and uh try 3054 02:26:37.239 --> 02:26:40.399 to emulate. A little bit i'm curious to see how. 3055 02:26:40.479 --> 02:26:42.680 That, plays out yeah It, will be uh it will 3056 02:26:42.719 --> 02:26:45.520 be really really interesting to see how this. SERIES plays 3057 02:26:45.559 --> 02:26:48.200 out i will admit It's not Quite Shaq. And kobe 3058 02:26:48.479 --> 02:26:52.040 beef i'd Like to see rudy, get a trophy yeah 3059 02:26:52.159 --> 02:26:56.239 before Our, guy don okay that's, KIND of like i 3060 02:26:56.760 --> 02:26:57.600 know that narrative got. 3061 02:26:57.600 --> 02:26:58.600 A little tired which team? 3062 02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:01.040 Are, you on yeah but no knowing what happened behind 3063 02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:03.959 the scenes and All the guff rudy took and really 3064 02:27:04.159 --> 02:27:07.200 what Was happening was donovan and his powerful agency. Making, 3065 02:27:07.319 --> 02:27:10.399 POWER plays Yeah i just i'm kind Of cheering For 3066 02:27:10.479 --> 02:27:13.040 rudy and mike like And Of course joey Ingles. 3067 02:27:13.079 --> 02:27:15.239 Too love conley i'd love To see go bert. 3068 02:27:15.239 --> 02:27:17.639 Get a trophy i'm Not, over the nicks not over the, 3069 02:27:17.719 --> 02:27:20.559 next of course be More. PARTIAL to conley i think 3070 02:27:20.600 --> 02:27:25.280 he is one of the real good GUYS, in the 3071 02:27:25.479 --> 02:27:28.079 Nba not. The rudi's Not he's a he's. A nice dude, 3072 02:27:28.120 --> 02:27:30.680 BUT you know I Look at mike conley as one 3073 02:27:30.719 --> 02:27:34.559 of the nicer fellas that we've worked WITH in. The 3074 02:27:34.719 --> 02:27:38.479 nba circles, that being said if you do make It 3075 02:27:38.639 --> 02:27:40.639 like a, Rudy don thing i'm with, you on that 3076 02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:43.879 it would be cool to, see him win and Not 3077 02:27:44.079 --> 02:27:47.360 Just the, rudy dahn thing But just the rudy versus the. World, 3078 02:27:47.559 --> 02:27:50.159 type thing right whether we talk about the go back, 3079 02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:53.520 to the combine go back to his time. As a 3080 02:27:53.600 --> 02:27:58.600 prospect there's Just something, about rudy where even though there's 3081 02:27:58.680 --> 02:28:01.239 parts OF him that, i loved, HATE you know i 3082 02:28:01.399 --> 02:28:04.840 think that he can lean into. THE sensitivity stuff i 3083 02:28:04.920 --> 02:28:08.559 think the, crystals, ARE silly right. I have that i 3084 02:28:08.799 --> 02:28:12.000 have that argument with my. Aunt every week it's it's 3085 02:28:12.079 --> 02:28:16.079 something that that is. Is very rooty it's part, of his, 3086 02:28:16.200 --> 02:28:19.319 IDENTITY and man i think that it would be it 3087 02:28:19.319 --> 02:28:20.559 would be pretty cool to see. 3088 02:28:20.600 --> 02:28:23.760 That guy WIN last thing a recommendation before we say good, 3089 02:28:23.840 --> 02:28:27.520 Night last night no playoff basketball got all cut UP. 3090 02:28:27.639 --> 02:28:32.360 On hacks hbo WHAT else did i? Catch up, on 3091 02:28:33.360 --> 02:28:36.159 CAN'T remember but i did sit. Down and watch we 3092 02:28:36.239 --> 02:28:39.280 Had Our Guy caylin jones on Who's Now with netflix 3093 02:28:40.239 --> 02:28:43.760 pubby in His. New documentary Untold It's. Called shooting guards 3094 02:28:44.399 --> 02:28:47.840 it's about The Situation with Gilbert Arenas. And javars critenen 3095 02:28:48.479 --> 02:28:50.520 and one of The things that i'm told Does Really 3096 02:28:50.559 --> 02:28:54.079 well manti tale story among others, that They've done the 3097 02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:57.879 brett farv may drop tonight actually Doing one On. Brett 3098 02:28:57.920 --> 02:29:01.280 favre is the story gets reported and then you believe initially, 3099 02:29:01.319 --> 02:29:04.000 what you hear and then it goes away and then 3100 02:29:04.040 --> 02:29:06.399 you kind of. Forget about it you will be floored 3101 02:29:06.399 --> 02:29:09.479 about what Actually Happened between Javaris Crittin. And GILBERT arenas 3102 02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:12.600 and i came away feeling So Gutted. For javar's crittin 3103 02:29:12.639 --> 02:29:15.840 and now let, Me Be clear javar's crittinen was committed 3104 02:29:15.920 --> 02:29:18.399 of murder far, after the fact and spend a, decade 3105 02:29:18.440 --> 02:29:21.639 in jail and unfortunately a young lady lost her life. 3106 02:29:21.680 --> 02:29:24.479 With multiple kids of course, not condoning that but the 3107 02:29:24.559 --> 02:29:28.079 way this was portrayed and, what actually happened it is 3108 02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:30.000 worth your time to. CHECK this out i think you'll 3109 02:29:30.040 --> 02:29:32.639 come away with a lot Of Sympathy for, javar's critten. 3110 02:29:32.559 --> 02:29:35.239 Well and as you kind, of alluded to that later 3111 02:29:35.440 --> 02:29:39.920 situation didn't happen in a vacuum away from What Happened 3112 02:29:39.959 --> 02:29:44.319 to javaris critten. In his career all, of the above it's. 3113 02:29:44.360 --> 02:29:46.920 AN interesting look i still got. To finish, It, but 3114 02:29:47.000 --> 02:29:51.120 yeah kaylin cool to see him make moves regardless of. 3115 02:29:51.319 --> 02:29:55.079 Where it is he's always, covering something. Cool something, Interesting 3116 02:29:55.559 --> 02:29:57.360 and yeah i'm looking forward to the, farv one too 3117 02:29:57.799 --> 02:30:02.399 because that's been that's been one of the more kind 3118 02:30:02.440 --> 02:30:07.799 of polarizing but interesting stories in the retired sports world. 3119 02:30:08.079 --> 02:30:10.799 In recent, Memory so yeah i'll Finish, the Shooting guards 3120 02:30:10.879 --> 02:30:14.719 which kaylin got the uh got the assignment for. Naming 3121 02:30:14.799 --> 02:30:16.799 that one, hit it out hit the nail, on the head. 3122 02:30:16.799 --> 02:30:17.319 He sure did. 3123 02:30:17.399 --> 02:30:21.200 He, Sure did indeed. Rest In peace George, wentz better 3124 02:30:21.280 --> 02:30:22.520 norm Better known As. 3125 02:30:22.680 --> 02:30:23.760 Norm from cheers he. 3126 02:30:23.799 --> 02:30:27.120 Passed, away today okay unfortunately that you're way too Young. 3127 02:30:27.239 --> 02:30:30.280 TO remember, CHEERS i, know i, know you know you 3128 02:30:30.360 --> 02:30:34.040 know some Some quotes. That i've heard my, family love, 3129 02:30:34.159 --> 02:30:36.719 Cheers but yeah cheers to me is the, bar, downtown 3130 02:30:37.280 --> 02:30:40.319 indeed indeed but it was a great television show a number, 3131 02:30:40.360 --> 02:30:43.360 Of Years, Ago Ted, danson kirsty ally, look, It up 3132 02:30:43.479 --> 02:30:45.760 kids it was phenomenal back. In the, Day all right 3133 02:30:45.799 --> 02:30:48.639 time For playoff HOCKEY here on, espn Seven hundred It's. 3134 02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:51.600 Carolina and florida, for playoff basketball check out the fan 3135 02:30:52.280 --> 02:30:54.280 porter what comes our Way on a wednesday edition. 3136 02:30:54.360 --> 02:30:57.520 Of the program, as you MENTIONED we'll have nhl playoffs 3137 02:30:57.559 --> 02:31:00.719 here on the, STATION here momentarily nba playoffs over on 3138 02:31:00.799 --> 02:31:03.719 the fan if You're Looking For Western conference finals game 3139 02:31:03.959 --> 02:31:07.479 one on. The Show tomorrow josh furlong for some latest on. 3140 02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:10.000 The utes offseason haven't Caught up with josh in. 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