1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,719 your support. So last hour talked about Tom Holman on 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,439 the Sean Ryan Show. Tom Holman The Borders Are sat 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,840 for a three hour interview with Sean Ryan, who's a 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,520 former Navy seal and he does a podcast and he 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,039 mainly focuses on a lot of national security terrorism kinds 14 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:50,200 of things. But he had Homan on for this three 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,399 hour interview and that's apparently the normal length of his shows, 16 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:58,119 and they covered a whole bunch of stuff, a whole 17 00:00:58,159 --> 00:01:04,400 bunch of stuff. Tom Holman worked on the southern border 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:12,079 for years and that gave him gives him this, you know, 19 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:17,519 experience and this insight into what exactly the human costs 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,719 are of illegal immigration. And this is I've been making 21 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:26,799 this argument ever since the immigration stuff really kind of 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,599 became a story back in the early two thousands and 23 00:01:31,719 --> 00:01:35,200 there was, you know, efforts to implement two eighty seven 24 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:41,400 G program in Charlotte, in Mecklemburg, and there were people 25 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:46,280 getting killed from dui drivers that were here illegally, and 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,280 it was difficult to get attention, It was difficult to 27 00:01:50,359 --> 00:01:54,200 get traction in the legislature and stuff. It just wasn't. 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,159 It wasn't what it is now. Fast forward twenty five 29 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:01,879 years of this and everybody's well fed up with the situation. Right, 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,159 But because he worked the border for those years, he 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,680 was down there. I think he said he was down 32 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:10,960 there for like twenty five years, so probably was down 33 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,080 there when all of it started getting really really bad, 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,439 and he saw firsthand what I have been saying also, 35 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:21,520 which is not that he's listening to me, but it's 36 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:23,759 the same argument. It's the side of the Ledger that 37 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:27,879 is never accounted for from Democrats and media. But I 38 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,560 repeat myself in these open border activists, the human cost 39 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:44,960 in lives, treasure abuse. Right, It's unfathomable when you open 40 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,719 the border, tell people that you will get all of 41 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:51,080 this stuff when you get here, and then they take 42 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:55,479 the logical rational approach and say okay, I'll come, and 43 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:01,919 then they experience these horrible things on the way. They 44 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,199 get kidnapped, they get held for ransom by a rival cartel. 45 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,199 I mean, it's some of the stories from that area. 46 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,520 I remember covering. This was probably fifteen years ago. There 47 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,759 was this I guess they were fighting, probably over the 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,919 human trafficking routes at that time, the cartels were, and 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,520 so they would go and hit the rival cartels. Drop 50 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,919 houses they called them. So if you're a coyote and 51 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,039 you're bringing you know, twenty thirty people across the border, 52 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,840 you stash them someplace before you, you know, send them 53 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:41,840 to go work in some factory someplace, or you're going 54 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:46,719 to traffic them into the sex trade or whatever. You 55 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:49,000 bring them across and you bring them to this house 56 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,520 and you tell them okay, stay here, and you lock 57 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,599 them in there, and then you coordinate payment, you coordinate 58 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:02,080 travel to send them wherever they're going. And people don't 59 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,439 know when they come across the border. They don't know 60 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:06,360 if they're going to be sent to a drop house. 61 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,120 They don't They may be deceived, right, So they end 62 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:14,159 up in this drop house and then the cartels will 63 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,439 raid the other cartels drop houses. Either they'll murder everybody 64 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:21,680 in the house, they take them hostage, or they hold 65 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,600 them for ransom, and they torture people on the phone 66 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,920 with their loved ones back home in order to extort 67 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,160 money out of the loved ones back home. This was 68 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:38,759 a problem. I'm sure it still occurs, but I remember 69 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,839 this was like a This became a big issue probably 70 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,920 about fifteen years ago. So his experience on the border 71 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:54,519 has informed his outlook on this. And when you keep 72 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:58,199 your border open as we have, you are condemning people 73 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,879 to death, to vi ailins, and to abuse. 74 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: It wasn't rare to find a dead body of an 75 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:07,839 illego alien that was making the journey and died making 76 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,040 that journey because the smogglers don't care if you get sick. 77 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:14,079 They're not calling nine to one one because that alien 78 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:16,160 means nothing to him. Now, he's not going to get 79 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,680 paid to get into this final destination. They just leave 80 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,879 there to die. I know, I can't tell how many 81 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,040 aliens we find near death's door making that journey, and 82 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:29,519 we actually were able to get them help and save them. 83 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,800 But the thing that really really affected me was two things. 84 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:39,920 Number one talking to a little girl about nine years 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,040 old that was part of the smoking group who was 86 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,680 raped multiple times by members of the criminal carte nine 87 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,639 years old. Yeah, and let me tell you so, it's 88 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,759 toughest guy you want to be when you sit down 89 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:57,279 and get on your knees. You talk to this little 90 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:04,959 girl and I and everything in his and pure evan 91 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:09,560 has been ripped from her where you can tell that 92 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,839 she has no faith in humanity. I mean, this little 93 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,480 girl's world was destroyed. She's never going to be the same. 94 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:19,639 I don't care how much counselince she gets, right, And 95 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,839 I'm a father and you think, you know, how can 96 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,560 someone do that to such an innocent little girl? And 97 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,480 it really changes who we are. I mean it's just 98 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:34,600 like you know, I can't believe there's a human being 99 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:37,680 out there that would would would do that to a 100 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,839 little girl. The members of Cartells are animals. They don't 101 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,160 care about these people. These people are commodity. And there's 102 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:49,079 been several instances where you know, women and children that 103 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,319 I've been involved when through an investigations were sexist ulted 104 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,399 by the car tells us, you know, demanded as part 105 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:59,839 of crossing them. Either across the desert or over the river, 106 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:02,079 or just take it. It's just just just raping for 107 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,720 the hell of it. I mean, I've seen rape trees. 108 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:10,639 You don't worry. Uh, these smugglers would just hanging panties 109 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,560 up in the tree as a trophy. And well, the 110 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,480 nine year old girl shook me because then you realize 111 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 just how inhumanities that these people are. 112 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's never an account that's part of this discussion. 113 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: Ever. 114 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: No, we hear what we hear from democrats. Who's gonna 115 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:36,360 who's gonna clean your bathrooms, who's gonna mow your yard? 116 00:07:37,279 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Well? 117 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,399 Speaker 1: What about what about that girl and all the others 118 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:45,279 like her? Let me go over and talk to Ray here. Hello, Ray, 119 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:46,040 welcome to the show. 120 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Oh Pete, I'm calling in since we're on this subject 121 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,439 of legal aliens committing crime, just just to try to 122 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,360 make more people wear whoever I can on the radio 123 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:02,800 and bring it to the forefront. Uh. That my mother 124 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,319 worked for several years with a lady. I won't mention 125 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,720 her first name, but her last name was Gardener, and 126 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,279 I knew the lady pretty well myself, and her family 127 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:21,879 was Scott Gardner, and he and his family of wife 128 00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:25,600 and two kids were killed in a car crash with 129 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,279 an illegal lady and several years ago. You might remember it. 130 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:30,639 Speaker 1: I do, I absolutely do. They were down there were 131 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,279 they were at the beach right, they were coming back 132 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:32,799 from the beach. 133 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't know where they were. I just I wasn't 134 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,399 that familiar with her family. I just I just knew 135 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,919 the lady through my mom working with her, and her 136 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,799 last name being Gardener. She was probably pretty close related 137 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,000 to them. So I just thought i'd bring that, bring 138 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,360 that up while we were on the subject. 139 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I remember, I remember the story. I want to 140 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,200 say they were from Gaston County maybe, And. 141 00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: I think so. The lady talking about that worked with 142 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,480 my mother. Her and my mother worked at a sewing 143 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:06,919 plant here in Gaston County. 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember I attended an event. It was 145 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,000 at Congresswoman Sue Myrick's office, I believe, and Sheriff Jim 146 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:18,720 Panograph was there from Mecklenburg and it was a focus 147 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:24,480 on illegal immigration and the problems, and that story was 148 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,159 front and center in that event. And I don't remember 149 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:32,759 all the details about the event, but I remember being 150 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:35,679 in that office. It was a media event. 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Mail orders 177 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,399 are accepted to get all the details that create a 178 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,159 video dot com. Tom Holman also talked about the long 179 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:11,399 game that democrats are playing here. I've got the audio. 180 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,240 I've got the audio. We will cover it. But previously, 181 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Holman said there were two cases that shook him right. 182 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,720 He gave you the first one about the nine year 183 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,960 old girl, and then he talked about the second case, 184 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,919 and this is where he got emotional. The second case 185 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:36,919 that he was called to investigate about twenty years ago. 186 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:42,159 I remember this case. You probably will too. It was 187 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,480 a tractor trailer that was filled with people and it 188 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,399 was abandoned in Texas. 189 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,799 Speaker 2: Right away. See several bodies on the ground because when 190 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:56,200 those doors finally opened up, that people are such a 191 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,759 rush to get air that they knock some dead bodies 192 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:00,960 out of the truck onto the ground. On some dead 193 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 bodies on the ground there. Then I got to the 194 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,240 back of the tractor trailer and uh, I looked in the 195 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,240 back of the tractor trailer, I just see that people, 196 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,879 most of me in their underwear because they were trying 197 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:19,120 to get some relief from the searing heat. And right away, 198 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,639 so I looked at a key down a little boy 199 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:25,480 and he was partially covered up by who later found 200 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,200 out with his father who was protecting him. And I 201 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:33,360 keyed in on him, and he was wearing the same 202 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:40,720 color underwear. My little boy had same underwear and I 203 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,279 had a five year old cent at the time, so 204 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:57,200 right away I keyed in on him. So we had 205 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:03,559 so I took an investigation. He also termed Houston flew 206 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,120 in and the helicopter came to the crime scene. But 207 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,559 what's going on. I was processing the crime scene. We 208 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:12,240 had a guy taking pictures and I was telling him, 209 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,919 don't take all these pictures. All I needed, but I 210 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,600 told him that we were do the boy last. Uh 211 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,679 and mainly because I couldn't handle it. That's the time. 212 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,440 So we processed the crime scene and I testified to this, 213 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,960 and I got angry when testimony with someone claimed I 214 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,440 didn't care about dying children. He should have wore my shoes. 215 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,360 I've seen a lot of dying children, dead children in 216 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,080 my career. So when we got to the child, I 217 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:43,840 knelt down beside him, I put my hand on him, 218 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,399 and I said a prayer because I knew, based on 219 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,799 the years I've done alien smart investigations, what a horrible, 220 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,759 horrible death this child went through. He make the death. 221 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:00,399 Speaker 1: He told stories of. 222 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: This. 223 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Uh in this podcast with Sean Ryan, The Sean Ryan Show. 224 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:12,480 There was one coyote or smuggler who was bringing a 225 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,759 family over. They were from Africa, I think he said, 226 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:20,320 and it was a you know, mom and dad, a 227 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,200 couple of small kids. Whatever. They threw them in the 228 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,960 rather than get caught, they just threw them in the water, 229 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:27,879 threw them in the river, and then turned around and 230 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,519 drove off. And the family couldn't swim. They didn't care. 231 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:33,679 They just threw them in the water. 232 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:35,639 Speaker 2: Right. 233 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: That's the incentive structure that the prior administration and these 234 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:48,320 NGOs and these activists have created. And then they have 235 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:55,320 the audacity to accuse opponents of their policies of wanting 236 00:14:55,919 --> 00:15:00,279 children to be separated from their parents or two be 237 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:05,519 killed to die or to be in cages. Right, Yet, 238 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:12,519 this is the system that you guys ran, this incentivized 239 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:17,360 system for people to make this journey and to be 240 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:21,440 abused in these ways. The trailer that he was talking 241 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,240 about there got up to one hundred and seventy five degrees. 242 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,200 They said. The air compressor for the truck was turned 243 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,519 off because the driver did not want to draw attention 244 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,799 to the fact that he was hauling human cargo. Right, 245 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,039 And if you've got that compressor running, some law enforcement 246 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:42,799 pulls you over, they're going to say, why do you 247 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:45,159 got the thing running in the back. You're obviously keeping 248 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,200 something cool. What have you got in the back, Because 249 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,519 if there's nothing back there, as you just told me 250 00:15:49,559 --> 00:15:53,759 probably right, then that would be at odds with why 251 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:56,200 you're running the compressor. So let's take a look in 252 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,240 the back, and then he would be busted. The driver 253 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,480 was getting angry at the people in the back. He 254 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,679 was on the phone with his cartel and he was 255 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,399 mad because the people in the back were ripping apart 256 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,000 his truck because they were baking to death, and so 257 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:19,120 they had bashed out one of the tail light areas 258 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:21,879 and they were trying to signal for help. Trying to 259 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:24,120 get some air in there, trying to signal for help 260 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,399 or something, and so he abandoned it on the side 261 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,200 of the road, and he didn't even unlock the doors. 262 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:34,480 He stopped the truck, left the doors locked, unhitched it, 263 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:40,399 and drove away. Holman said fourteen people went to prison 264 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 over that case. But he also said that he did 265 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,200 not sleep for a week because of the experience with 266 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,320 that little boy, and that's what prompted him to then 267 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,399 go get help. But he also says that's why he 268 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:02,600 always says this. He woke up every day mad during 269 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,880 the Biden administration. Every day for four years, he would 270 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,440 wake up angry. And that's why because he knew that 271 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,599 that's occurring again. This stuff now continues and it gets 272 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,880 worse and worse, and more and more people, more and 273 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,480 more kids die. Because he knew what the open border 274 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,759 would do, because he had seen what occurred before. He 275 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:31,240 knew there would be more death, he knew there would 276 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:34,400 be more rapes, there would be more suffering, more drugs 277 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,599 flowing across the border, all of it. And so when 278 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:42,279 you know, Donald Trump gave him a call and said 279 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:46,519 do you want to come back? He said absolutely, let's 280 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:52,000 fix this. So why would you implement such an inhumane policy? 281 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:54,240 Why would you do something like this at all of 282 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:58,119 the human cost, all of the suffering, all of the death, 283 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Why would you do this? Well, Tom Holman has he 284 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,880 has an idea and it may sound familiar, all right, 285 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,720 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 286 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,480 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 287 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,599 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 288 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,880 say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because 289 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,559 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 290 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,920 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 302 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,759 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 303 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:05,200 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 304 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,240 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 305 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:11,920 as they make the media landscape more transparent. I have 306 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,079 a message on the email or in the email in 307 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,039 the inbox from Dennis who says, your caller just mentioned 308 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,240 that car crash that killed Scott Gardner and his family 309 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,519 from Gastonia by a drunk illegal alien twenty years ago. 310 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:33,039 I remember it well. Sue Myrick, our US congressional representative 311 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,720 at the time, tried sponsoring the Scott Gardner Act in 312 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:42,640 Congress to make it automatic deportation for any illegal caught 313 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:48,680 drunk driving, and Congress turned it down. And that probably 314 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,599 explains why I was at Sue Myrick's office in Gaston 315 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,039 County for some type of an event. I bet it 316 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,440 was the unveiling of that or it was some press 317 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,559 conference about this. 318 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember the details of why I was there, 320 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,839 just remember it was an immigration related thing, it was 321 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,319 in Gaston County, and it was because of that case. 322 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,079 So thanks Dennis. I appreciate that. I do recall. I 323 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,440 do recall now that you've refreshed my memory. 324 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,319 Speaker 2: So. 325 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: The Washington Times reports that in the past the charges 326 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:33,279 of felony reentry have only been used sporadically, but under 327 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,920 Biden they plunged. Out of roughly one hundred forty thousand 328 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,160 illegal immigrants apprehended by border patrol agents in March of 329 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,720 twenty twenty four, just nine hundred eleven of the one 330 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:51,160 hundred forty thousand were charged with illegal entry, or seven 331 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,960 out of a thousand cases. By comparison, this past March, 332 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:01,480 the latest data that's available, agents record awarded eight thousand, 333 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:07,400 two hundred arrests. Prosecutors brought two thousand, six hundred four cases. 334 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,480 That is a rate of three eighteen per thousand cases. 335 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:16,799 That represents a forty five hundred percent increase. Illegal re 336 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:21,119 entry cases have shot up as well, went from twelve thousand, 337 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,839 forty six last year in March to almost three thousand 338 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240 this past March. That's one hundred and forty percent increase 339 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:37,119 as well. See, when you prioritize particular enforcement, then you 340 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,200 send the deterrence message and and you remove the people, 341 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,960 you get them out. It can be done. Jonathan Faye, 342 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,480 a former federal prosecutor up in Virginia, who served as 343 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,759 acting head of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement at the 344 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,799 end of the first Trump administration, said, the lack of 345 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:01,960 prosecutions under Biden is another symptom of an open borders policy. 346 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Quote. 347 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: They didn't want to prosecute these cases, even with the 348 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,599 most serious offenders. They wanted illegal immigration, and they would 349 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,480 do anything they could to encourage it, except when he said, duh, 350 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:22,440 do right. So this leads to the question of why 351 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:26,799 Holman on the Sean Ryan Show said that Joe Biden 352 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,440 unsecured the border on purpose. This was not incompetence, This 353 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:35,640 was not mismanagement. This was intentionally said. 354 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,039 Speaker 2: Because when President Biden signed over ninety executive orders destroying 355 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:42,039 everything that President Trump did and Trump forty five. He 356 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,039 also overturned to Trump's census rule, which means the man's 357 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:47,960 the people they release in the United States, that'll becount 358 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,079 the next census. Most of the sanctuary cities, which means 359 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:54,119 what when they proportioned their seats and House me it's 360 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,960 more seats than House with the deempts, and also I 361 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,160 think their future Democratic voters there. 362 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,319 Speaker 1: It is what have I been saying. It's about the apportionment. 363 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,240 He is exactly right. On January twentieth, twenty twenty one, 364 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:16,359 this report from NPR quote, one of President Biden's first 365 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,880 executive actions has reversed former President Donald Trump's unprecedented policy 366 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:29,160 of altering a key census count by excluding unauthorized immigrants. 367 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:33,559 The change ensures that the US continues to follow more 368 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,720 than two centuries of precedent in determining representation in Congress 369 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:39,160 and the electoral College. 370 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,599 Speaker 3: Right. 371 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,279 Speaker 1: But why why did Trump do that? Because you had 372 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:48,400 seen the increase in illegal immigration prior to Trump arriving. 373 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,279 He ran on it. Remember, nobody was even talking about 374 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,839 this topic before I came down the Escaleta. You know, 375 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:59,599 he wanted the border wall, he wanted a restrained immigration. 376 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:02,960 Why because it was a problem. It's been a problem 377 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:08,519 since Reagan cut the deal in the eighties. So he says, 378 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,240 you know what census is coming up. We're not going 379 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,440 to count these unauthorized immigrants because you guys have been 380 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200 flooding the country with more and more people, allowing them 381 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:24,119 to stay and counting them towards the census. Hours after 382 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,799 he was sworn in as president, Biden signed an executive 383 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,400 order that calls for all US residents whether you're in 384 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,759 the country legally or not to be counted in state 385 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:38,759 population numbers that, according to the fourteenth Amendment, must include 386 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,160 the whole number of persons in each state. Right, So 387 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,160 you bring everybody in and then you got this. The 388 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:53,039 constitutional law is that you have to count whole number 389 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,880 of persons. So Democrats knew that, so they brought in 390 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,799 all the people so we can count more people in 391 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:03,440 the these areas that elect Democrats, and then we'll get 392 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880 more seats in Congress, and we'll get a lasting, permanent 393 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,519 majority in the House. Another firewall, another blue firewall. So 394 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:14,480 Trump tries to get at that and says, no, we're 395 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,000 going to stop it. Oh, you can't stop it. He 396 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:23,160 got sued, and then Biden reversed the order. The state 397 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,440 counts are used once a decade to reallocate each state's 398 00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,240 share of electoral votes and the four hundred and thirty 399 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,279 five seats in the House of Representatives. Since the first 400 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,200 national headcount in seventeen ninety, those counts have never omitted 401 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,240 any residents because of immigration status. Biden's order also rescinded 402 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,880 an executive order that Trump issued in twenty nineteen as 403 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,799 part of a project at the Census Bureau to produce 404 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:54,519 citizenship data using government records as an alternative to Trump's 405 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,200 failed push to add a citizenship question to the census form. 406 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,640 You remember this fight. They wouldn't even They don't even 407 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,400 want you to ask the question because it's about power. 408 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,400 This is the long game. Here's a great idea. 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I guess 438 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,119 it was probably a couple of years ago that had 439 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,400 illegal aliens not been counted in the census, it would 440 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,640 have deprived democrats of somewhere in the neighborhood of about 441 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:06,799 twenty seven seats, twenty four to twenty seven seats. It's 442 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,759 all based on estimates. It's an illegal population. It's hard 443 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:11,480 to track. You don't know where they are, you don't 444 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,799 know you know how many. So that was some of 445 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:19,920 the research I had seen. So Democrats are at risk 446 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,319 of being in a perpetual minority in the House, in 447 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,440 the House of Representatives if they lose population, as they 448 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,519 have been losing population in the states that they control, California, 449 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,160 New York. They've already lost congression. California lost a seat 450 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,119 for the first time ever in twenty twenty, even with 451 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,839 all of the illegal immigration into California. Right, that's the 452 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,359 long term strategy. And secondarily, there is a belief that 453 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:56,839 the people coming up are going to vote Democrat. I 454 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,319 don't know if that's the case. I think there are 455 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:04,640 things that people coming from South and Central America being Catholic, 456 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,200 I don't think that they are on board with everything 457 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,880 that the left is, you know, promoting. But for now, 458 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,839 it keeps them, It keeps them in a position where 459 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,759 they can contest and maybe win majorities in the House. 460 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,960 That goes away so here, he says, Democrats are employing. Yes, 461 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,720 this long term strategy. Here's the last home and clip. 462 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: Or not? 463 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,039 Speaker 1: Why why is it frozen? Why why did it freeze? 464 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:42,000 Let's try you again. 465 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: They're playing the long game, they're smart at it. Overwhelm 466 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:49,240 the system. Let's bring ten point five man encounters to 467 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:55,519 the border, release them without proper betting, because all they 468 00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:00,279 care about was the optics. If there's no overcrowding in 469 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,079 the sea, if there's no overcrowding, we could say the 470 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:09,119 border secure, which they did. Borbitual agents were ordered process quickly, 471 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,359 released quickly because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to 472 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,240 see here. So of course they weren't vetted properly. Didn't 473 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,119 have time to vet them properly. Why did they release 474 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:23,880 millions of people into the United States rather than putting 475 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,519 them in an empty ice bed, an ice bed owned 476 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,839 by ICE, contracted by Ice at one hundred and twenty 477 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,279 seven dollars a night. Why did they not fill that bed? 478 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,839 But they rather release them to Nangil. Get put in 479 00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:42,359 a hotel at five hundred bucks a night, get three 480 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,680 three meals a day, get free medical care, and get 481 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,079 and not only that, they get flown into the city 482 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,279 their choice. They say, what they want to go, we 483 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,480 flew them there by administration, put them a hotel room 484 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,799 five hundred bucks a night, give them three meals a day, 485 00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:02,000 free medical care. Why did they do that instead of 486 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,279 putting them in the ice facility one hundred and twenty 487 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,519 seven dollars a night because they knew exactly what they're doing. 488 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,480 They know if they go into ice detention, they get 489 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:13,680 a hearing within forty days based on real debt. If 490 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,319 an immigration court, nearly nine out of ten people claim 491 00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,720 asylum will get ordered to remove. Because they don't qualify 492 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,359 for asylum, they get removed. That's not what they wanted. 493 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Overwhelm the system because once you're out of the system, 494 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,799 you've got the detained docket. Immigration court prioritizes the detained docket, 495 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,799 but once you release them, now they're on the non 496 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,000 detained docket, sitting in the hotel room. Hearing's going to 497 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,400 take three five seven years, depending on what location you're on. 498 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:43,559 If you want to exhaust all you appeals, maybe nine years. 499 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,759 They overwhelmed the system because it's going to take years 500 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,640 to get these people through the process. And what happens 501 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,559 then we're hoping for a democratic administration. Now you can 502 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,680 warn Amnesty they're playing the long game. They overwhelmed the 503 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920 system on purpose. They did not detain them on purpose. 504 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: On purpose. Nine out of ten asylum seekers, he says, 505 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:11,799 are denied asylum requests, which they get within they get 506 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:16,920 their hearings within forty days. You'd arrest somebody at the border. 507 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,519 You bring them to a detention facility one hundred and 508 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:23,160 twenty seven dollars a night for the bed forty days, 509 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,119 within forty days, you run them through an asylum court. 510 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,880 The court nine out of ten times says you're not 511 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:33,160 actually covered under the asylum program, and so you got 512 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,119 to go back. So what do you do, Well, you 513 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,640 don't send them into the detention, You send them home, 514 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,680 give them a notice to appear. It's catch and release, right, 515 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,160 say oh okay, well you going to come back and 516 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240 we'll hear it later. And it takes years to do that. 517 00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,839 You file appeals. That adds more years and years. And 518 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:56,839 he says, you're overwhelming the system, which is Cloward and Piven, 519 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,319 nineteen sixties era sociologist laid out the plan for the 520 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,759 left overwhelm the system. This is not a new strategy, 521 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,200 but it is a long term strategy. That's what we're 522 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,359 dealing with now, and God bless Tom Holman and Donald 523 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:22,160 Trump for trying to try to stop this. 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