Speaker 1: Great sense of humor and also just a heck of
Speaker 1: a friend. How you doing there, young man? I am
Speaker 1: doing great.
Speaker 2: Tom Osio Nagata. Hell everyone out there, elst the sun
Speaker 2: a lee, good morning and happy Friday. Wow. You know
Speaker 2: that's I'm looking forward to getting out to the lake
Speaker 2: this weekend. That's going to do some fishing. I'm going
Speaker 2: to do some fishing, we do some camping. It's uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I love enjoying the Oklahoma State parks. But you know,
Speaker 2: in the Cherokee Nation, we have a word. It's called
Speaker 2: you gilosti, or it's is also known happy wash day.
Speaker 2: So for all you out there listening, make sure you
Speaker 2: grab the kids, grab the dog, grab your clothes, and
Speaker 2: whether the need or not, make sure they get washed
Speaker 2: at least once a week. So how are you? How
Speaker 2: you been doing, Tom? You're looking forward to the weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've got a big auction going up in Dewey
Speaker 1: and that's what we do every year with our radio stations,
Speaker 1: and nobody pays more than eighty percent.
Speaker 2: Of full price. Good yeah, good deal. Maybe we'll see
Speaker 2: you between you know, fishing, between fishing and camping. I
Speaker 2: might I just make it up there. You never know
Speaker 2: you can find a bargain right there, you can. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: we wouldn't be here. As they say in the Delaware
Speaker 2: language one niche speaking of the Delaware Lenape. We're going
Speaker 2: to dedicate this broadcast to the Lenape people to talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about their tribe. You know, it's one
Speaker 2: of the prominent tribes we have in this area because
Speaker 2: we have the Osage, the Cherokee, and the Lenape or Delaware.
Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit before the broadcast, and
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, when they realie located the Delaware here,
Speaker 2: they knew that the oce Age and the Cherokee were
Speaker 2: kind of warring factions, and so they kind of sandwiched
Speaker 2: the Delaware between us to act as a buffer. Right
Speaker 2: my goodness. So evidently it worked because we're still on
Speaker 2: a war with each other and old grudges have died away.
Speaker 1: So I tell you what, their tribal complex is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It really is in the north east part of Barlinville.
Speaker 1: Oh it is, Yeah, something else.
Speaker 2: I went out there recently. They had a cultural Day
Speaker 2: and they had the Easter Bunny out there. They had
Speaker 2: face painting, they had some great had a great Native
Speaker 2: art market, you know, and it's just amazing the stuff
Speaker 2: that you could find out there. And I was amazed
Speaker 2: at just the community and the level of dedication people
Speaker 2: have to their tribe and just promoting the Delaware culture.
Speaker 2: So a little bit of background on the Lenape. They're
Speaker 2: called the Lena Lenape, which I understand now they've kind
Speaker 2: of dropped the whole Lennae, which actually that It's two antonyms, Lenny,
Speaker 2: which means the genuine or pure or real and a
Speaker 2: nab meaning real person or original person. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of an interesting thing, I think a lot of Native
Speaker 2: cultures because we kind of pride ourselves on being the
Speaker 2: first or being the original. For the Cherokee, it's where
Speaker 2: the real people or the principal people, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's just sort of a recurring theme that you find
Speaker 2: throughout Native cultures anyway. The i Lenape has a long
Speaker 2: They have a long history. It reaches as far back
Speaker 2: as the arrival of the Europeans. Before then, since much
Speaker 2: has been lost over time, it's best to begin to
Speaker 2: begin in the forest and waterways of the Hudson River Valley. UH.
Speaker 2: Their area of the La Nape Lands would cover New
Speaker 2: Jersey and Delaware, parts of southeastern Pennsylvania lying between the
Speaker 2: Susquehanna and the Delaware Rivers, and the southeastern part of
Speaker 2: New York State west of the Hudson, and this whole
Speaker 2: area was called the Lenape Hoaking that was kind of
Speaker 2: the homeland of the Nape. The Delaware people today can
Speaker 2: be found in small enclaves across the US and Canada,
Speaker 2: and the population. The main populations reside in Oklahoma and Ontario, Canada,
Speaker 2: with families and individual tribal members scattered across North America.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the same way with the Cherokees. We
Speaker 2: have Cherokees in all fifty states, in several countries. Perhaps,
Speaker 2: as George Carlin observed about the Lenape said, no other
Speaker 2: tribe on the continent has been so much moved and
Speaker 2: jostled about by civilized invasions, and none have retreated so
Speaker 2: far or fought their way so desperately as they have
Speaker 2: honorably and bravely contended for every foot of ground they
Speaker 2: have passed over. And I think that's kind of a
Speaker 2: wonderful tribute to the nominal spirit of the Lenape people.
Speaker 2: They were calling them the absentee Delaware. Absentee was a
Speaker 2: description they were given early on because they had broken
Speaker 2: away from the main body of the tribe shortly after
Speaker 2: the American Revolution. I know that when we had conflicts,
Speaker 2: a lot of times the native tribes would take sides
Speaker 2: in those conflicts, and then they would kind of splinter afterwards.
Speaker 2: And I mean, we saw this in the American Revolution.
Speaker 2: We've seen this in the Civil War. You know, anytime
Speaker 2: the United States has had a conflict that we've dealt with,
Speaker 2: natives have been right there at the forefront of that.
Speaker 2: A European promises of the inclusion of a fourteenth state
Speaker 2: and Indian state were made as enticement to sign a
Speaker 2: first Tree in the Ladapie had signed in seventeen seventy
Speaker 2: eight between the United States and the and the Indians.
Speaker 2: Of course, no Indian state was ever declared, and by
Speaker 2: seventeen eighty two, continued expansion of the frontier and the
Speaker 2: violence that often erupted from that expansion, compelled the Delaware
Speaker 2: to move beyond the borders of the newly formed the
Speaker 2: United States and the Spanish territory west of the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2: In seventeen ninety three, the Delaware were given a land
Speaker 2: grant from the Governor General of Louisiana that they would
Speaker 2: share with the Shawneese. That's a tribe that you're familiar with.
Speaker 2: This tract of land was located northwest the present day
Speaker 2: Cape Girardo, Missouri, and after eighteen fifteen, the Cape Giedo
Speaker 2: Delaware continued south and southwest into Arkansas and the Indian territories,
Speaker 2: while the main buy of the tribe continued to reside
Speaker 2: in Ohio. After the Cape Grotto group began moving south,
Speaker 2: they would splendor into three groups, one group presiding along
Speaker 2: in the northeast Texas border, others near present day Nagadosius, Texas,
Speaker 2: and the third group near present day Buyers, Oklahoma, McCurtain County.
Speaker 2: These Delaware, along with the other band seeking a place
Speaker 2: to live, would find themselves removed from Texas three times
Speaker 2: before eventually settling on Wichita allotments in the Antarco and Antarc, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Not until late twentieth centuries, the Absentee Delaware then the
Speaker 2: Delaware Tribe of western Oklahoma. They are now the finally
Speaker 2: recognized Delaware tribe. We know them today. They're right headquarter
Speaker 2: right here in Burnsville. And I think it's interesting to
Speaker 2: go back to their you know, you don't really appreciate
Speaker 2: just how timeless they are if you go back to
Speaker 2: their creation story. Basically, it says that they'd prayed to
Speaker 2: their creator for the waters to rise, and the creator
Speaker 2: directed the people to a large hill and told them
Speaker 2: the camp on. It kind of reminds me of the
Speaker 2: Genesis story of a building the ark and then once
Speaker 2: the waters receeated the arc, you know, being on Mount
Speaker 2: air a Rarat. But as the ring continued to fall,
Speaker 2: the water began to pool and rise around them, so
Speaker 2: they moved to the very top of the hill. Once
Speaker 2: again we have that theme of a flood story. As
Speaker 2: the water crept up toward them, wetting their feet, the
Speaker 2: hill began to tremble and shake, rising up with the people.
Speaker 2: Upon its back was the great tex Soks or turtle,
Speaker 2: who had been hiding beneath the hill for many years.
Speaker 2: And if you know anything about the Delaware culture, the
Speaker 2: turtle is a ubiquitous symbol. It's big, it is yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the interesting thing about the story is there's
Speaker 2: a thing called the wall Olam, which is the red score,
Speaker 2: and it's the recounting of where they came from. And
Speaker 2: the interesting is it was actually recorded what are known
Speaker 2: as mnemonic glyphs, which are somewhat similar to Egyptian hieroglyphics.
Speaker 2: These stories were to traditionally share it through storytelling, and
Speaker 2: at some point an individual decided to record the stories
Speaker 2: in new wooden strips. The assumption. By late nineteenth and
Speaker 2: twentieth century interpreters of the walam olum the world tradition
Speaker 2: was passed down from one person to another, which is
Speaker 2: a very common theme in native cultures. The part of
Speaker 2: the story that is the most intriguing is what is
Speaker 2: called Book three of the wallamoaklum And, Verses fifteen through seventeen,
Speaker 2: and this is a quote. All of them said, they
Speaker 2: we'd go together to land, all who were free. The
Speaker 2: northerners were of one mine, and the Easterners were of
Speaker 2: one mind. It would be good to live on the
Speaker 2: other side of the frozen water. Things turned out well
Speaker 2: for those who stayed at the shore of the frozen
Speaker 2: water hard as rocks, and for those of the great
Speaker 2: hollow Well and the Monogliphs were interpreted in the late
Speaker 2: nineteenth century by doctor Britain, and from this interpretation, the
Speaker 2: Wall of Oapland suggests two groups of people decide to
Speaker 2: leave their homelands and what is now modern day Siberia,
Speaker 2: moving across the once frozen bearing straight southward across the
Speaker 2: Yukon until arriving at the headwaters of the Mackenzie and
Speaker 2: Columbia Rivers. Wow, so isn't that amazing? Yeah, because that's
Speaker 2: we're talking about the ice age. Really, we are, so
Speaker 2: that's actually how far it goes back. So basically, the
Speaker 2: Delaware were divided up into three clans, the Wolf clan,
Speaker 2: do Anami which is the turtle clan, and the Turkey clan.
Speaker 2: And the other interesting thing is the Lenape. They put
Speaker 2: a prize on belonging to clans, just like the Cherokee did,
Speaker 2: and they had a matrilineal clan system, you know, meaning
Speaker 2: that it was all sort of descended, you know, through
Speaker 2: your mother. You got your clan from your mother. The
Speaker 2: interesting thing about that is the father, who you would expect,
Speaker 2: like in our culture, like an English culture, to teach
Speaker 2: you all the things that you need to know to
Speaker 2: survive and hunting and stuff like that, it didn't follow
Speaker 2: to him. It actually fell to the mother's brother because
Speaker 2: he was part of that clan, whereas the father was
Speaker 2: usually from a different clan. So that's how being a
Speaker 2: matrilineal society and matrilocal is what they call that. That's
Speaker 2: basically how the hereditary leadership was passed through the matrilineal line.
Speaker 2: It was interesting because even the women elders could remove
Speaker 2: leaders of whom they disapproved, and I know the Cherokee
Speaker 2: we would have elder women on our workouncils. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's sort of sort of a unique sort of thing
Speaker 2: when you think about it. Going back a couple hundred years,
Speaker 2: members of each clan were found throughout Lenape territorium. While
Speaker 2: clan mothers controlled the land, the houses, and the families,
Speaker 2: the clan fathers provide the meat, cleared the fields, built
Speaker 2: the houses, and protected the clan. Upon reaching adulthood, a
Speaker 2: Lenape mel would marry outside of his clan for obvious reasons,
Speaker 2: and the practice effectively prevented inbreeding, even among individuals whose
Speaker 2: kinship was obscure or unknown. So that's that's another thing
Speaker 2: that you see throughout Cherokee culture too, is that you
Speaker 2: would actually marry outside your clan, and of course, you know,
Speaker 2: we know the reason for that. The other thing is
Speaker 2: the Europeans when they would deal with Lenape tribes, they
Speaker 2: would sort of misinterpret this whole matrilineal focus and they
Speaker 2: would they would sort of make agreements with certain people
Speaker 2: that were in the tribe, and those really weren't people
Speaker 2: in authority. You could make agreements with the lines. A
Speaker 2: little bit of the confusion as to you know, how
Speaker 2: land was transferred Yeah, things like that. Yeah, So anyway, today,
Speaker 2: the Delaware Tribe of Indians is one of the three
Speaker 2: federally recognized tribes of Delaware Indians in the United States,
Speaker 2: is a branch of Delaware, commonly known here based in Barsel.
Speaker 2: As we said, tribal membership is limited to descendants of
Speaker 2: Delaware people in the nineteen oh six tribal roles from
Speaker 2: in the territory. There is no minimum blood quantum a requirement,
Speaker 2: and they're often called We talked about this before. They're
Speaker 2: often called the Grandfathers because they were respected by other
Speaker 2: tribes as peacemakers and often served to settle disputes between
Speaker 2: rivaling tribes. They're also known for being fierce and tenacious
Speaker 2: warriors when they had to fight. However, they prefer to
Speaker 2: be peaceful. In fact, even today, like when we attend
Speaker 2: the Delaware event, we usually give thanks to our Delaware
Speaker 2: hosts as the Grandfather Tribe because you just as we
Speaker 2: described in the glyphs, you know, the history of that
Speaker 2: tribe goes back to the Ice Age, So I mean
Speaker 2: it's definitely it really is the Grandfather Tribe. The treaties
Speaker 2: and land cells that were signed with the Europeans because
Speaker 2: the Delaware believed, actually, the Delaware are those treaties we
Speaker 2: talked about, They kind of believe they're more like leases.
Speaker 2: They'd realized they were binding for the amount of time
Speaker 2: that they were. The Delaware had no idea what land
Speaker 2: was was and something that could be sold. They believed
Speaker 2: the land belonged to the creator and they were only
Speaker 2: using it to shelter and feed their people. The Delaware
Speaker 2: people signed the First Indian Treaty with the newly formed
Speaker 2: the United States government in seventeen seventy eight nontheless the
Speaker 2: war and peace through war in peace, the Delaware would
Speaker 2: continue to give up lands and move westward, first Ohio,
Speaker 2: then the Indiana, Missouri, Kansas, and finally Indian Tory which
Speaker 2: is now Oklahoma, two different migrations. Small small band of
Speaker 2: chart Delawares left the group in the late seventeen hundreds
Speaker 2: and today located antadarchic Oklahoma ows the Delaware Nation. Small
Speaker 2: contingents of Delawares fled to Canada during a time of
Speaker 2: extreme persecution and today occupy two reserves in Ontario and
Speaker 2: are known as the Munsey Delaware Nation. In eighteen sixty seven,
Speaker 2: after dealing with the United States on a government to
Speaker 2: government basis. The ancestors of the Delaware Tribe of Indians
Speaker 2: to relocate to Oklahoma to live within the Cherokee Nation.
Speaker 2: The Delaware Tribe of Indians operated automously within the lands
Speaker 2: of the Cherokee Nation, and after passage of the nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy two Appropriations Act, the Delaware Tribe of Indians sought
Speaker 2: federal recognitions separate from the Cherokee Nation, and in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy five it was granted. And that's kind of interesting
Speaker 2: because that's also the same year that the Cherokee Nation
Speaker 2: was granted its sovereignty and able to elect its own chief,
Speaker 2: basically the first time in a very long time in
Speaker 2: its history. In nineteen seventy nine, the Bureau of Indian
Speaker 2: Affairs revoked the status. The BIA had determined that the
Speaker 2: Department of the Interior would generally engage in government to
Speaker 2: government relations with the Delaware Tribe only through the Cherokee Nation,
Speaker 2: and that the Department went engaged in direct relations of
Speaker 2: the Delaware Tribes solely with respect to the tribe's claims
Speaker 2: against the United States. Then in ninety one, the Delaware
Speaker 2: Tribe of Indians regained their federal recognition by the Secretary
Speaker 2: of Interior. However, the Cherokee Nation disagreewed the decision filed
Speaker 2: suit against the BIA and the Secretary. This led of
Speaker 2: the Delaware tribe losing federal record again in two thousand
Speaker 2: and four. After years and negotiations, the issues were finally resolved,
Speaker 2: and on July twenty eight, two thousand and nine, the
Speaker 2: United States Department of the Interior notified the tribal office
Speaker 2: in Barnesville that the Delaware given once again a federally
Speaker 2: recognized tribe. Say, as you can see that recognition has
Speaker 2: been fleeting at some moments, but I think it's a
Speaker 2: testament really to the resiliency of the Delaware people. We
Speaker 2: need they continue to fight for all these centuries. Before
Speaker 2: we go today, we have a few announcements we don't
Speaker 2: want to forget. This month's prize giveaway for our listeners.
Speaker 2: It's a newly released illustrated guide to the Cherokee syllabary
Speaker 2: that helps you learn proper pronunciation. It's written by Brad
Speaker 2: Wagman and illustrated by Beth Anderson. You can go to
Speaker 2: the Barswow Radio Facebook page and drop a feather in
Speaker 2: the comments section for a chance to win, and our
Speaker 2: winner will be announced during our broadcast on August fifth.
Speaker 2: Nice As always, don't forget to check out our Cherokee
Speaker 2: community Facebook pages for the latest events, news and meetings,
Speaker 2: Washington Kind of Cherokee Association, Cherokee Cultural Community and Dewey
Speaker 2: know Way to Cherokee Community Foundation. In the Native American
Speaker 2: Fellowship in South Coffeeville, I encourage everyone, whether Cheroke here
Speaker 2: or not, to find a community and get involved. As
Speaker 2: with many organizations I see across the board, the membership
Speaker 2: is aging and we need younger people to get involved
Speaker 2: and help carry on our culture, traditions and language before
Speaker 2: they are lost. One of the things that struck me
Speaker 2: in prepping for the last broadcast that are in the
Speaker 2: Cato tribe. That tribe has two Native speakers left. That's
Speaker 2: it too. And we talked about the Cherokee Nation. In fact,
Speaker 2: Cherokee Nation in nineteen seventy five, I believe we had
Speaker 2: about twenty five thousand Native speakers. Now we have less
Speaker 2: than a thousand, so it's definitely something that is it's
Speaker 2: a crisis. You know, we need to preserve our language
Speaker 2: and we now preserve our culture and also I would
Speaker 2: recommend that everyone check out the Delaware websites and the
Speaker 2: Osage Facebook pages. They always have something fun and cultural
Speaker 2: only meaningful happening. I ask our listeners not to forget
Speaker 2: the Teton Trade Cloth Store located at one sixty Southwest
Speaker 2: Frank Phillips Boulevard and the Johnstone Sair Building or their
Speaker 2: location at the Eastland Shopping Center. You can also shop
Speaker 2: all eye at the Tetontrade Cloth dot com. Cherokee Nation
Speaker 2: is a career services office located the Cherokee Culture Community
Speaker 2: in Dewey, seven hundred East Durham, but it has been
Speaker 2: temporarily closed because I've been working on the floors there
Speaker 2: for those wishing to use those services called nine one
Speaker 2: eight five was six seven nine five nine the Speaking
Speaker 2: of our Lenape Friends. August third, the Cultural Preservation Committee
Speaker 2: will be hosting a shell shaking class led by Sarah Boyd.
Speaker 2: Sarah will be discussing the history of shell shaker cans, etiquette,
Speaker 2: and basic shell shaking. This is an all ages class
Speaker 2: open anyone interested in learning or helping to teach others.
Speaker 2: Attendees are encouraged to bring cans if you have them,
Speaker 2: that will be August third, from eleven thirty three at
Speaker 2: the Delaware Tribal Complex Headquarters, beautiful location. As we were
Speaker 2: discussing earlier once we'll be provided at noon. The Washington
Speaker 2: County Cherokee Association, located near Ocean Lady, would like to
Speaker 2: invite everyone to our monthly potluck dinner. August Potluck will
Speaker 2: be August first, from six pm. Our guest presenter will
Speaker 2: be Feather Smith, ethno Biology manager for Cherokee Nation. Feather
Speaker 2: works in the Cherokee Nation's heirloom Garden and native plant site.
Speaker 2: It's been working to grow package in one thousand and
Speaker 2: five thousand packages of Cherokee airloom native plant seeds that
Speaker 2: are sent to Cherokee citizens and educational organizations. She also
Speaker 2: gives tours to the Airloom Guard, a native plant site,
Speaker 2: and travels to give presentations on Cherokee ethnobiology and helps
Speaker 2: out not far from Barnsville with eagle nests monitoring at
Speaker 2: the George Mish Suttnavian Research Center. Washington County Cherokee Association
Speaker 2: is located just east of the Kouyskoui Health Clinic on
Speaker 2: County Road twenty nine hundred one a half miles west
Speaker 2: of Highway seventy five. We'd love to see you out there. Also,
Speaker 2: be sure to catch our friends Chris Crane and amyed
Speaker 2: Dollar with fribid journeys on our sister station, the mighty
Speaker 2: sixth ninety KGGF. Check out their Facebook page. Tune in
Speaker 2: to catch the next edition of Native Beat August fifth,
Speaker 2: at nine to forty five am. We guest Steve Burr,
Speaker 2: president of the Washington County Cherokee Association. We'll be talking
Speaker 2: about the art of flint mapping. I've been attempting to
Speaker 2: learn this skill and let me tell you, Tom, it
Speaker 2: is an art. I mean it's a skill, but it's
Speaker 2: definitely an art. You can catch Native Beat on the
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Speaker 2: wadaou as we say in Cherokee Nation, Wanishi as they
Speaker 2: say of the Delaware, and wanshi as the Osage would say,
Speaker 2: and total of you listening Doda to gohai until we
Speaker 2: meet again.