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<v Speaker 1>E Sports Radio. Sorry for the technical difficulties. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Eaves and this is the Sports Radio. It is

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<v Speaker 1>June to thirteenth, twenty twenty five. It's Friday, June thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday the thirteenth. Welcome back to the show. Sorry for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes these electronic devices don't work well. That's all that

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<v Speaker 1>I can say. My ear pods are not working correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're not working correctly, So welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Rich behind the glass. Rick, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good, Jerry great. We'll have Anthony and George

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<v Speaker 1>will be with us in a second. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>just get the news out of the way. Phone numbers

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<v Speaker 1>five zero, two, five, nine hundred. It is Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>seven ninety KRD. That was not I Heart's fault. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not get these ear pods to work properly,

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<v Speaker 1>so that falls on me. Anyway, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's introduce first and foremost Anthony Eves to the show. Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing good?

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<v Speaker 3>Just just hustle back up the stairs. So I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>of breath now.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Somebody had to save me that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody had to save me. I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the other guy. He'll have nothing but jokes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring his name is other guy? Bring you sometimes George Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes other guy.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you, hey, buddy out it budds it buds.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here, buds George, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I just wanted to verify that, mister Eaves, because

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<v Speaker 4>we were all waiting about a half hour for you

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<v Speaker 4>to come on the as so we only got a

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<v Speaker 4>few minutes. So let's get right into the show. Because

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<v Speaker 4>what were you trying to do? Put some of their

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<v Speaker 4>budds in your ear? Very technical, very technical.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in my ears. I could get him to the

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<v Speaker 1>connect to the computer. George.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not taking any stuff off your Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking any stuff off you, George.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not if you technically savvy, bro. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 4>you're technically savy.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically savvy, George. I like, now you sound like Anthony.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you fell like Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, technically savvy boy, George. I like that. Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, Hope. Everybody's had a tremendous week. It is Friday, George.

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<v Speaker 1>The week is blown by. Let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>we have. And a lot of people don't know this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't because you're wrong with us yesterday. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have the one and only Dwayne Casey calling in

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<v Speaker 1>the day about seven forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Five, and we're gonna talk to him a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>About about yes NBA Draft, not much about the NBA Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the only issue you will He works for

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<v Speaker 1>the front office for the Pistons, so there are only

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that I can ask. We can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff games, George, and there are a few questions

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<v Speaker 1>he's given me that I can ask him about the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but he cannot since he works for the giveaway information

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd like for him to give away, George, as

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<v Speaker 1>we both know. But anyway, we've got Dwayne as at

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<v Speaker 1>the back end of the show, so we do need

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<v Speaker 1>to get into this, George. Now we've got to start.

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<v Speaker 1>We're throwing at trade, Anthony. George. We've got big baseball games,

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<v Speaker 1>big baseball games at high school and college. So Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start with you. Let everybody know what's transpiring

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<v Speaker 1>in high school in college baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, obviously we also know we always know

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<v Speaker 3>the college segment, there's tons of games going on. There's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a couple of tonight, a couple Saturday as well.

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<v Speaker 3>For that college side. Obviously playing out in Omaha. Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>does play the night at seven pm with the host

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<v Speaker 3>in Oregon State and in Arizonia and Coastal Carolina will

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<v Speaker 3>be kicking off the day at two pm as well.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saturday games, we'll be having Murray State take on

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<v Speaker 3>UCLA at two o'clock Eastern time, and then we'll also

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<v Speaker 3>have LSU versus Arkansas at seven o'clock as well. For

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<v Speaker 3>those college games that we have coming up today and tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>those are big ones going on. So we got two

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky teams supporting seven representing twenty five percent. Oh that

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<v Speaker 3>great George for you astanding?

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<v Speaker 1>How fam isn't that great George Murray and University of

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<v Speaker 4>I think he brought up a point.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read this to you all. Andy brought this

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<v Speaker 1>up yesterday, and what a point. Listen to this, u all.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Dan Skirker. He is the coach the Racers play. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just give you the whole thing. During the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three to twenty four academic year. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>information gathered by USA Today in conjunction with the partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with the Knights Town College Athletic Database, that Murry spent

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and fifty eight thousand, one hundred and six

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on their entire baseball program. Let me say this

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<v Speaker 1>to you again. Eight hundred and fifty eight thousand, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and six dollars George, entire program, George. The Racers

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<v Speaker 1>play in the stadium with a maximum capacity of eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Head coach Dan Skirka cuts the grass, and Johnny reaganfield himself,

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<v Speaker 1>George himself. Now, when we're talking about the real college experience,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. This is the real college experience right there, George.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't say what his salary is, but guys, his

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<v Speaker 1>entire budget is eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody to understand here when everybody gets on

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<v Speaker 1>me about a little criticism on coach McDonald, great job

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<v Speaker 1>all of the World Series, I think six for Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>but he makes twice as much as Murray State's entire budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want people to understand it's always not about the money. George,

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<v Speaker 1>we always say it's always about the money. Antony brought

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<v Speaker 1>that up yesterday. Here it is front page, front page

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<v Speaker 1>of the paper. Guys crempe, Jared, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>story of it all. Our Murray State reached College World

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<v Speaker 1>Series entire budgets eight hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars. So, George,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, well, Jered, I just think he has a love

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<v Speaker 4>for the game, a passion for the game. And as

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<v Speaker 4>we know today that most of the time that that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of budget won't get you any word because you

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<v Speaker 4>can't get the big teams to play you because they

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<v Speaker 4>scharedule upset you, and the small team they can't really

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<v Speaker 4>travel that far because they budget won't allow it. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's fantastic in the time and this day

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<v Speaker 4>and time, when we're talking about how we play in

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<v Speaker 4>il players and coaches all this amount of money, it's

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<v Speaker 4>refreshing to see that the coach loves what he does

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<v Speaker 4>because he loves it for the love of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And then also, Jered, where he lives, he can afford

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<v Speaker 4>to live pretty good on a four or five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars Sorry, so you know, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>so amazing and how much these coaches want. And what

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<v Speaker 4>amazes me is we act like they are so outstanding,

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<v Speaker 4>but if they don't get the town, the players, they're

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<v Speaker 4>no better than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy, you and George don four or five.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you, I bet you he makes one fifty

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<v Speaker 1>George Mix. Listen to this. Murray State will face UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>with a baseball budget of four point one nine million

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<v Speaker 1>in game one. LSU has a budget of nine point

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<v Speaker 1>nine million, third largest budget in Division one Arkansas nine

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<v Speaker 1>point one six million, fifth largest, George, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that Murray State's competing against with an eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty eight thousand dollars budget. So congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly, I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Want Murray State to win at George, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a great point, Anthony, that you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up yesterday, and here it is in today's paper. Antony

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<v Speaker 1>brought it up yesterday that he cut his own grand George,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot more out George. Cut the infield,

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<v Speaker 1>y outfield. George.

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<v Speaker 4>We did live so long with Okay, no they don't

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<v Speaker 4>go finish. I got a couple of I said, we

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<v Speaker 4>have lived for long. We remember when a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>coaches would take that avenue, you know, Jay, and have

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<v Speaker 4>the players out there working with him.

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<v Speaker 1>George. I told him yesterday when Anthony brought this up.

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<v Speaker 1>That at Herring University in nineteen ninety and of course

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<v Speaker 1>you know I was called everything. I was janitor, manager,

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<v Speaker 1>travel coordinator, assistant coach, recruiting coordinator. George. People have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea when you take lower level jobs, you do everything.

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<v Speaker 1>After every game, every game, George, Coach Beard and I stayed,

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<v Speaker 1>swept the stadium, steps, got we were the janitors, got

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<v Speaker 1>all the pop coronarts, swept the floor before we left. George.

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<v Speaker 1>That's college. That's why I tell people I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>complaining from college coaches. I don't. I'm gonna bring coach

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<v Speaker 1>of Beard on next week and have him tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's college.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you you missed out though, Jered that

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<v Speaker 4>I think that makes make college so so fantastic. Fair back,

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<v Speaker 4>you lived in the dawn with the other students. You

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<v Speaker 4>got to know who your classmates was. You could walk

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<v Speaker 4>around class campus and a lot of people that you

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<v Speaker 4>got to meet and got to know. You know them

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<v Speaker 4>longer than you know your teammates, and you still got

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<v Speaker 4>relationships with them. You know, I think they're missing that

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<v Speaker 4>interaction with their fellow students on the campus. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that you're that big that all your

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<v Speaker 4>college students will lose their man if you walk around campus,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, without security. You know, I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 4>hate being doing where they got to go, stay in

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<v Speaker 4>and away from the students, get to know them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Wildcat Lodge, Danny Crumb Hall, everyone has them now,

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<v Speaker 1>George Carmous.

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<v Speaker 4>But think about your relationship when you come out of

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<v Speaker 4>Miller Hall, George. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You know in your practice now you say you missed

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<v Speaker 1>this point. People can come to our official practice, George,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they an't make any noise. They watched

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<v Speaker 1>our practice, the real practice, George, George, not summertime. The

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<v Speaker 1>real practice practice was open. Things have changed. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to our first call. Great point though yesterday with that

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<v Speaker 1>anything because it's in the front page of the Cure today,

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<v Speaker 1>wait to beat the paper, the sports radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you I'm laying my man? All right? Hey, good

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<v Speaker 4>morning gentlemen. Uh I hope Anthony's doing good.

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<v Speaker 5>Rick behind the glass doing great, Jerry Uh, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna say. And then the main man, George, it

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<v Speaker 5>is a delight. But Jerry had called about the Murray

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<v Speaker 5>Sade deal that this is just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the equivalent of.

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<v Speaker 5>Them making this world Ferry Jerry is Bellerman making the

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<v Speaker 5>final four.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm and great analogy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that that is exactly what you're watching. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>know this coach makes less than one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a year?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he did. I knew he did. His total

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<v Speaker 1>budgets eight hundred and fifty thousand, travel, assistant coaches, Jersey's uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>food insurance, the whole nine yards without it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you know we have we have a we

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<v Speaker 5>have assistant coaches at U of L combined that make

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<v Speaker 5>more money in that program takes in. Or that Murray

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<v Speaker 5>State is worse or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, all of it, I guess, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>all these schools are. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree there not because letting now, but think about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we think he'll be still making that thing Storary

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<v Speaker 4>next year? Will he be at Maury State?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, sir, He'll be at another school next year. George.

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<v Speaker 4>After this, I kind of knew that, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>y'all to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, he will not be at Murray State next year, but.

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<v Speaker 5>In his back pocket, it's amazing, you know, congratulations to

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<v Speaker 5>them and U of L and the other teams had

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<v Speaker 5>made it out there, because that's very hard to do.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, you know, coach McDonald has been squawking for

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<v Speaker 5>a while over there about things, and boy, it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>losing three to four million dollars a year on your

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<v Speaker 5>claim Jerry and George and Anthony and post that, put

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<v Speaker 5>that out to the Courier Journal like Murray State did,

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<v Speaker 5>you will see where they're losing three to four million

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact on the lot. No, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a fact. But both teams planning wish them both success.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story is Murray's State. That's the story. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty six thousand dollars is this. I'll they

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<v Speaker 1>win it, Drew. Yes, George dan Skirtt will not be

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<v Speaker 1>there next year. He will not. He will move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>But the experience that he's gained from this level. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I tell people when guys get high

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<v Speaker 1>level assistant jobs, they have no idea what it really

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<v Speaker 1>is to coach clean stadiums, George wassh jerseys, all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you have to do that you don't touch it. Believe,

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<v Speaker 1>the things I did at Louisville when I was coach

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<v Speaker 1>Crumbs assistant was absolutely not the same as what I

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<v Speaker 1>did at Howard University for Coach Pear, completely different. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn the nuts and boats. So guys, we're

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<v Speaker 1>at seven twenty one. We got to get the breakers.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got d Dwayne Casey.

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<v Speaker 4>Later on we get that thing to get Thanks BLA,

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<v Speaker 4>have a great wee get blinded.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job, Anthony. When we come back, of course, Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's back in the news, we'll talk to you in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. June thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. It's Friday. Yes, it is a seven

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<v Speaker 1>which means be in your car community now. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>George Williams. Anthony. Eve's on the line. With the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who've got another caller and we're gonna take him, but

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly. George, have you heard about the news about

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown attempted murder?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me your opinion if if you have one, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not. If you do give it to me, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you an anthony. We'll go from there. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>your mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, Jerry, we've seen this building up for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time, you know what I mean, And I always

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<v Speaker 4>call it superstar syndrome. You know, we've given these young men,

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<v Speaker 4>uh put them on a pedestal since they've been a

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<v Speaker 4>young age, told them what they can do. They're untouchable,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of these young men believe that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen that Antine Brown has had emotional problems ever

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<v Speaker 4>since you have Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, with all

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunities you get like that, and you still can't

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<v Speaker 4>adjust to for people, and you always think it's the

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<v Speaker 4>other guy. You know, that's psychological. Jerry, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>he really has a lot he's going on with him.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that people could have wrap their arms

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<v Speaker 4>around him a long time ago and had some evaluations done,

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<v Speaker 4>but seemed like he didn't want to get it done.

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<v Speaker 4>Now did the people around him want to get it done?

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<v Speaker 4>They just wanted to see how good an athletely good,

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<v Speaker 4>how fast he could run, and how good he could

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<v Speaker 4>catch that ball and everything else, or just take care

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<v Speaker 4>of himself. And we've seen how it just spiraled out

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<v Speaker 4>of hand. And that's when I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where'd you think Anthony had multiple issues in Antonio Brown?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we don't know what we don't We don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on upstairs with Antonio Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of been a messing off the walls probably

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<v Speaker 3>over the last six or seven years. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>just slowly and drastically just kind of getting worse and

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<v Speaker 3>worse by the month. You know, I hate to say

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<v Speaker 3>it because he was an incredible football player, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think he needs some real psychological help because I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't think everything's clicking up there. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 3>people he's surrounding himself with or I'm saying them seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who the people he surround himself with

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<v Speaker 3>or is just letting them do these things without any

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<v Speaker 3>like repercussions or consequences really just kind of does it

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of happens, and they kind of sweeping

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<v Speaker 3>on the rug and he does something else, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a reoccurring event, and it's getting to the point

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<v Speaker 3>to where now it's it's he's in a situation where

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<v Speaker 3>this one can't get swept.

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<v Speaker 4>Under the rug.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're putting yourself in a real situation where your

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<v Speaker 3>life is about to change drastically. Attempted murder regards what

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<v Speaker 3>the case is. Even if you put on probation, community.

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<v Speaker 1>Service, jail time.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows it's something that will mentally change you as

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<v Speaker 3>a person. It changes anyone. Anyone who's ever been in that.

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<v Speaker 6>Situation before knows that your heart falls out of your

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<v Speaker 6>body when you hear news like that, or you're getting

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<v Speaker 6>phone calls or people are out looking for you and

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<v Speaker 6>you know you're running around driving in your car and

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<v Speaker 6>you get an ESPN alert that the police are looking

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<v Speaker 1>Always, well, guys, we always try to get both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read to you from his ex account.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you all. I was jumped by multi individuals, George.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes back to you. He's always jumped who tried

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<v Speaker 1>to steal my jewelry? Second thing, Antonio, you haven't worked

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<v Speaker 1>for three years and you're in financial trouble. He is,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to sell your jewelry, Anthony. You're correct. People

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<v Speaker 1>around him need to tell him you need to have

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<v Speaker 1>sold that a long time ago, young man. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>George anton these things don't seem to sink in and

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<v Speaker 1>cause physical harm to me, he wrote in his ex account.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrary to some videos circulating, police temporarily detained me until

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<v Speaker 1>they received my side of the story, then released me.

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<v Speaker 1>I went home that night and was not arrested. Hold

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<v Speaker 1>up my continuity to just cut up. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>taking my legal counsel and attorneys on pressing charges on

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals that jumped to me. According to the warrant,

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses told police officers that Brown was a shooter, and

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<v Speaker 1>two shell cases were found at the scene. Brown was

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<v Speaker 1>unarmed at the time he was detained, but the men

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<v Speaker 1>he allegedly punched during the altar told police that Brown

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<v Speaker 1>began to run toward him with firearms after the fight

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<v Speaker 1>had already been broken up, and shot at him twice. So, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>all I can say is this, George, You're right, Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>sell the jewelry. You need the money. Period, point blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Hundson, correct, incarceration.

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<v Speaker 4>Does no good. Go ahead, George, Yeah, you know, And

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<v Speaker 4>they said, you know, Jered, the people that you run with,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of these guys especially have these emotional and problems.

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<v Speaker 4>They surround themselves with a lot of yes people. Jared,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you do is okay with us, and you are

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<v Speaker 4>the man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably one of his problems been with his career,

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<v Speaker 4>that he's always surrounded people with those kinds of people,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've always pumped him up. And now, Jared, they

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<v Speaker 4>may be ending his career because nobody was standing around

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<v Speaker 4>him to tell him the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, careers over, George may be ending his days

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<v Speaker 1>as he free before waiting exactly. So, guys, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>Tryst on task ac, Welcome back. How are you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm good, how you guys feeling? Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 7>for think of my call brother, Rick. I hope you

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<v Speaker 7>are the league mister Eves who cares about Antonio Brown

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<v Speaker 7>And well, you guys are so this story would never end, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>So drop the subject. You've been talking about this clown

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<v Speaker 7>for the last two years. Yes, stop with this, brother. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>then Brother Anthony, explain what's happening. So, according to a

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<v Speaker 7>c the tribal chief of the show, I call him

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<v Speaker 7>a clown. So you're gonna fix yourself. You cannot fix you.

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<v Speaker 7>You can have problems that problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What finds out? What do you say when find out

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<v Speaker 1>that there may be a possibility that boy's got CTE?

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<v Speaker 1>What will you say then ac.

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<v Speaker 7>NFL's problem. Well, mister Ives, you don't want to go

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<v Speaker 7>deeper into conversation, trust me, you don't want that. A

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<v Speaker 7>lot of things at O's trust me. It's not even

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<v Speaker 7>good for a radio. The reason it's not good for

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<v Speaker 7>a radio because the government is not gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 7>Trust me, I know in and out. All right. Please,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you very nicely. Do not do not underestimate me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>but I love what you want that motivates me.

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<v Speaker 1>You did George get you out of prison or not?

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<v Speaker 1>George said he raised the money.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we did. Of course, that's a brother who

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<v Speaker 7>got me out of the present. Baby, by mister, let

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<v Speaker 7>me tell you something, all right, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 7>You and I you know, I spoke with brother Anthony

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<v Speaker 7>about this privately in his car dealership. You and I

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<v Speaker 7>have got to do a FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking forward to it, you and I. There's so

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<v Speaker 7>many things done for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm frightened.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely. How about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Would well?

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<v Speaker 7>How about well, how about this? Since brother Anthony is

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<v Speaker 7>so good with technology, we can do a zoom call.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, send me the invitation and we can work

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<v Speaker 7>something up. Hey, I don't mind taking a day off

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<v Speaker 7>one work. I'll say, hey, Bob, I'm sorry, I'm feeling sick.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm thinking today face time with my my

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<v Speaker 7>mister Jerve. You'll be mister his family all again.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't care about Shannon. I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do that. We want you to go to.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't worry about it. They're gonna pay me anyway. I'll

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<v Speaker 7>milk them a story about it.

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<v Speaker 1>George, you know what Red Fox would say? That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a drug.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably I am a drugs dealer. Probably, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, George, George get that sounds like a drug dealer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says you have to go to That sounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, George, we.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't and you can.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate it. But let's not get everything distracted, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>let me. Let me ask you a question. So what

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<v Speaker 7>are you doing for regular callers so we could get paid?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I know we talked about this two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do you can do absolutely anything, not absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me let me tell you something, let me know something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay you when you get fine to pay you, I

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<v Speaker 1>swear i'll pay you.

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<v Speaker 7>Can say something to you? Can I can I say

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<v Speaker 7>something to you p SDN. It's horrible and they're not

430
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<v Speaker 7>paying the callers, and the callers are so stupid and

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<v Speaker 7>distract said because they bring into every garbage espn C.

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<v Speaker 7>You think mister is gonna pay, No, it's not he.

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<v Speaker 7>I should listen to the segment when I battled with it.

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<v Speaker 7>He trusts the starter. He trusts the starter his way.

435
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<v Speaker 7>I said, no, no, no answer my question. When I

436
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<v Speaker 7>keep pressing him, guess what he does. He ends my

437
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<v Speaker 7>call because he knows. He doesn't want to make He

438
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<v Speaker 7>doesn't want to mess with me. But that's his problem

439
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 7>because he told me, you gotta work on your game. Boy,

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<v Speaker 7>give me a big mistake. But it works for me.

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<v Speaker 7>So mister, but hey, let me tell you, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 7>do something. If I could get your boss's phone number.

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<v Speaker 7>Trust me, Wigan and have something. But he gotta do

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<v Speaker 7>something for you and as well. So I'm not gonna

445
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<v Speaker 7>waste too much of your I'm not gonna waste too

446
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<v Speaker 7>much of your time. I promised what I'm gonna say,

447
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<v Speaker 7>but I'll you to let me. Let me hang up

448
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<v Speaker 7>by saying this. Mister her Blendon and mister Ron, please

449
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<v Speaker 7>join the fight with me if you want to get paid,

450
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<v Speaker 7>because we can work together. And trust me, it's AC

451
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<v Speaker 7>doesn't get it done, then it's my fault and I

452
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<v Speaker 7>would make sure this job gets done. We deserve to

453
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<v Speaker 7>get paid as a caller. Thank you so much for

454
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<v Speaker 7>taking my brother. Rick don't got paid, Billy don't get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Holla. Bye see halla E Sports Radio, George, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to break. Jesus, Anthony, we talk left to

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<v Speaker 1>the break. Welcome back to the Sports Radio Anthony and George.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully coach Casey'll be calling in in about two minutes,

459
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<v Speaker 1>so we've got a very very short segment. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've got to say is, George, your opinion on

461
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<v Speaker 1>the NBA playoffs. You haven't been on with us. What

462
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<v Speaker 1>do you think? Two to one Indiana?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's been a very exciting playoff game.

464
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<v Speaker 4>I've loved it all the way through. And one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things I said, I said, I thought that the

466
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<v Speaker 4>point guards would decide the series, but I didn't realize

467
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<v Speaker 4>that DOWNA was bringing a point guard off the bench,

468
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<v Speaker 4>it might be a more detrimental than anybody that we saw.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I've been enjoying it. Yeah, I really have.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it's been one of the better series that

471
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<v Speaker 4>we've seen in a long time. And I really like

472
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<v Speaker 4>the ball movement. I like the pace of the game.

473
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<v Speaker 4>I like the shooting. I like how they being diverse

474
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<v Speaker 4>in taking jump shots and driving and dunking it. I mean,

475
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<v Speaker 4>it's just really made it an exciting game. And the

476
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<v Speaker 4>defense being played. I I have really enjoyed it. You,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't gonna tell a lite.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree Answery, What do you think Game four tonight?

479
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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a tough one, obvious. All can say

480
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<v Speaker 3>is for the Pacers, this is their opportunity to take

481
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<v Speaker 3>advantage of that home court while they have it to

482
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<v Speaker 3>go up three to one in the series going on

483
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<v Speaker 3>the road back to OKCE.

484
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<v Speaker 8>In Game five.

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<v Speaker 3>If they win Game four to nights take a little

486
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<v Speaker 3>pressure off the shoulders. If they go back to OKAC

487
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<v Speaker 3>and it's a tie to two series, I think I

488
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<v Speaker 3>think Indiana still has the advantage night being at home,

489
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<v Speaker 3>came off that big momentum win, and I think they've

490
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<v Speaker 3>got a defensive scheme that they have figured out Okay

491
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<v Speaker 3>see a little bit better than OKCE has figured out Indiana.

492
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<v Speaker 3>They didn't do the best job in SGA last night,

493
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<v Speaker 3>but I give them credit for one thing. They did

494
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<v Speaker 3>wear him down to where he was dead with about

495
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<v Speaker 3>eight and a half minutes to go in.

496
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<v Speaker 2>The fourth quarter.

497
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<v Speaker 3>He scored and still got to his spots, but defensively

498
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<v Speaker 3>he was such a non factor because he was tired.

499
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<v Speaker 3>He had to work and overdribble for every shot he

500
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<v Speaker 3>got to. They wore him down in the shot clock.

501
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<v Speaker 3>They put multiple defenders in different bodies and sizes on

502
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<v Speaker 3>him to kind of make it difficult and give him

503
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<v Speaker 3>different looks than just going against the same defender all game,

504
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<v Speaker 3>which I do like from the coaching of Rick Carlisle.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big differential right now, and I hate to

506
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<v Speaker 3>say it, chet Holmgrim has got to be one of

507
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<v Speaker 3>the worst players.

508
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<v Speaker 4>In the NBA Finals right now.

509
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<v Speaker 3>I've seen in a while for him to.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Be one of their main guys.

511
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<v Speaker 3>He is so bad that he's putting in situations where

512
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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to with him in the games. And they

513
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<v Speaker 3>can't play Hartenstein as much because Hartenstein is not a

514
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<v Speaker 3>scoring threat at all, So they're playing out there with

515
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<v Speaker 3>only with pretty much no big Myles Turner will still

516
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<v Speaker 3>go out there and get rebounds, will put Thomas Brian

517
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<v Speaker 3>in sometimes of stressed before. They have a couple of

518
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<v Speaker 3>different options that the Pacers like to look for the

519
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 3>big man in different styles of offense that they want

520
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<v Speaker 3>to run. But right now, Hartenstein I still think is

521
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<v Speaker 3>their best reading founder, their best passer.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, we've got to get to break. We got Coach

523
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<v Speaker 1>Casey on the line. Guys, We're gonna go to break

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. We come back with the one

525
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<v Speaker 1>and only Dwayne Casey, Union County, University of Kentucky graduate

526
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<v Speaker 1>and one of the best head coaches in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty years. We'll talk y'all after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio at seven forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the one and only Dwayne Casey. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only true people that I've spoke to that

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Twenty eighteen NBA Coach of the Year, Dwayne,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you thank you, Jave. Great to be here

534
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and doing well and join these finals.

535
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<v Speaker 4>Great to have you back.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, without a doubt, great to have you back. Of

537
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 1>course I told everyone at the beginning of the show

538
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<v Speaker 1>in yesterday that you worked with frontoffs of the Pistons,

539
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 1>been the head coach of three NBA franchises, been Coach

540
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<v Speaker 1>of the Year in twenty eighteen, in great accolades. Your

541
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>opinion about this year's NBA and start with Tom Timbodeau.

542
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<v Speaker 1>What are you think is going on with the league?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's one of those things where it was unfortunately

544
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<v Speaker 2>a profession Jerry that you know, you it's one of

545
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<v Speaker 2>the hazards of our profession. You know you they say

546
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 2>that when you signed the contract, the only thing you

547
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't put on there is the end date. You know.

548
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<v Speaker 4>It's very hue uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Pops out there that's going to be with

550
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<v Speaker 2>one franchise. He and x Boster has had a lot

551
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>of a long, long longevity in their situation. But you know, again,

552
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 2>kids did a great job. Felt like in New York,

553
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a lot behind the scenes that came

554
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 2>about that we don't know about. But I've known Tibbs

555
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, coach against him and all of

556
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 2>his stops. He's you know in Chicago, Minnesota, and now

557
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>in New York. Uh so, and he's done a good

558
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>job everywhere he's been. He took his team to the

559
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>conference finals, uh and one shot away from you know,

560
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>making a different series. So uh, it's very for our profession,

561
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, being a coach and our profession for a

562
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>long time. It's unfortunate for our profession for a guy

563
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>like Tis who's done a great job. Uh he they

564
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 2>beat us in the first round and an exciting series.

565
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<v Speaker 1>Hartl School ay right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things. This experience for our team

567
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>this year is hard to find. I mean, you can't

568
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>put a price on the experience that that we had Jerry.

569
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<v Speaker 2>As far as for Kate Cunningham to get those you know,

570
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>six games in the playoffs, that's really going to pay

571
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>dividends for our entire team down the road. Because you

572
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>can talk about the playoffs, you can prepare for it,

573
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you can watch video, but until you out there on

574
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<v Speaker 2>the court in that atmosphere, as you know, Jerry being

575
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>a former player. Uh, it's one of those things that

576
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a different feel, a different atmosphere. And then this

577
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>year I've really felt like the officials call the playoffs

578
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot more. Uh, we're more liberal with letting guys play, Uh,

579
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, letting letting it be more physical, bumping, grinding.

580
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So that aspect of it also what was a different

581
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 2>difference for every team in the league, and that gave us,

582
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 2>you know a lot of experience watching our guys doing

583
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<v Speaker 2>the individual workouts.

584
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<v Speaker 4>Now.

585
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<v Speaker 2>Uh, they have a different pep in their step right

586
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<v Speaker 2>now after going through what they did in the playoff.

587
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.519
<v Speaker 2>So and then New York went on to beat Boston,

588
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, went on to move up, and then they

589
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>ran into a tough, tough Indiana team. So one of

590
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 2>those things that's unfortunate. But that's the great thing about

591
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>our league. You know, teams like Indiana come along and

592
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 2>have a great, great season.

593
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>No they have. You're talking about the Pacers and the playoffs,

594
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and of course your Pistons did have a tremendous year

595
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>forty four and thirty eight. It looked like they were

596
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 1>going to defeat the Knicks. There were a few tough

597
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>calls that you did not speak about, but great learning experience.

598
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Great learning experience for your players. And I'm really looking

599
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 1>forward to watching the Detroit Pistons next year. Let's move

600
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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs. We have now got the Indiana Pacers,

601
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 1>which the college temple, a full court press, picking you up,

602
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>working you ninety four feet, wearing down, using the bench.

603
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen a team use their bench this much?

604
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>This steep into the NBA playoffs as the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry's the fortunate thing. I worked for Rick as an

606
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>assistant coach for three years. Won the championship in twenty eleven,

607
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>so I witnessed it first hand how he utilies it.

608
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And Rick has a sixth sense, you know. And I

609
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>hate to go back in time. In twenty eleven, we

610
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<v Speaker 2>had JJ Burrea who helped us win a series. He

611
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 2>helped us beat the Lakers. Paigestarkivich didn't play for US,

612
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>so the last thirty games of the season came in

613
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<v Speaker 2>coach Jackson. Phil Jackson played zone against US in two

614
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand and eleven when he was with the Lakers. Paige

615
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Stwakovich came in and won a game versus their zone.

616
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>So and he was like the you know, eleventh of

617
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>twelfth man on our bench. So Rick has a sixth

618
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>sense and it's the same thing he's doing in Indiana

619
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>now of plucking a guy off the bench at the

620
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<v Speaker 2>right time, in the right situation. Who really, you said,

621
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<v Speaker 2>why is he putting them in the game. And then

622
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<v Speaker 2>this young man comes up and really has an impact

623
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<v Speaker 2>on winning. I thought Obi Topping the other night had

624
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<v Speaker 2>an impact on winning. TJ won the first half for

625
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<v Speaker 2>him the other night, and he came in with three

626
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>freight from the field and four for four you know

627
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 2>from the free throw line, and did a great job,

628
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 2>had two big steals of snapping back on the bounce

629
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<v Speaker 2>plate the bounce, so his hustle plays made an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Young man Ben Johnson uh came I'm sorry. Ben Shephard

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<v Speaker 2>came in and did a great job off the defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, picking picking up full court. And I

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<v Speaker 2>really thought they wore Sga down by picking him up

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<v Speaker 2>full court. But again it's the right personnel. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't spoken about Ben Benedict Mathern. Ben Matherns, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so every every button he pushed coming off the bench

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<v Speaker 2>really came in and did a great job for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and but Rick is he has a history of doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did that with Dallas when we won the

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<v Speaker 2>championship in twenty eleven, and he's doing that in front

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<v Speaker 2>of my eyes right now against a great, great, OKAYC team.

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<v Speaker 1>My son's got a question, Anthony, He's on with me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a question for you, Anthony as coach, k

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<v Speaker 1>hey you more?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, missus Casey?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing fantastic.

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<v Speaker 8>So one of the questions is I kind of had

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<v Speaker 8>in my mind, even back in your coaching era, in

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<v Speaker 8>a situation like this, He've kind of seen how the

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<v Speaker 8>Pacers matchup and guard SGA. If you were game playing

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<v Speaker 8>for SGA, how would you try to guard and contain him.

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<v Speaker 3>In the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a great question. One. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 2>young man that you can't give different looks to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched him I was coaching in Toronto, watched him

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<v Speaker 2>grow up as a young kid. He's a smart basketball player,

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<v Speaker 2>high IQ. So if you give him the same look

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<v Speaker 2>every time, and that's what what Indiana's doing a great

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<v Speaker 2>job of right now, You've got to give him different

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<v Speaker 2>body sizes. You have to put a nim hard on him.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to put a shepherd on him, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to put a bigger body on him on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as coming down the floor. And then once

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<v Speaker 2>he gets in that half court area, you know he

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's going to use his shoulder to bump

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<v Speaker 2>you off, and you got to get a rhythm for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then too, another thing I think is very effective

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<v Speaker 2>and with now, if you notice every time he goes

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<v Speaker 2>to that left side and turns his back, Indiana's running

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<v Speaker 2>a second defender to him to double team him. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's something that that that throws him off. Because really, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the basically the only thing you can do to

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<v Speaker 2>slow him down. You're not going to stop a young

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<v Speaker 2>man as Sga. My philosophy would be, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>make him work for every point he gets. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he wore down as the game went on. He started

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<v Speaker 2>walking around. I think I thought Indiana had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of hustle plays because he was walking back into to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana gets the offensive rebound. So that's one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>hope to do against a great player at like SGA.

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<v Speaker 2>He had twenty or twenty four points or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And the script player you're Marke dan All and you're

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<v Speaker 1>coaching SGA and all right, all right, Dwayne, I was

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<v Speaker 1>losing you. Okay, can you hear me everyone here? Okay, great, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you now. Yes, I want to flip the script.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the head coach of OKAC. Mark Danat has

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<v Speaker 1>the young man bringing them on ninety four feet under pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>planning forty plus minutes a game, asking him to beat

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<v Speaker 1>people seventy feet and score it. What would you do

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<v Speaker 1>to be more Michael Jordan more Kobe Bryant like Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson did, receiving the ball in the elbow on the

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<v Speaker 1>big box at the top of the key with a

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<v Speaker 1>live dribble. What would you do to get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>out of his hands, to let him receive it where

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<v Speaker 1>he could be the assassin that is, and not the

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<v Speaker 1>workhorse that they've made.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, that's the hard thing about the the playoffs, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>is you know that got them how many games? If

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<v Speaker 2>they won sixty eight games? I know they're in a

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<v Speaker 2>word out situation. You have to find ways to get

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<v Speaker 2>him rest. You have longer timeouts, you have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ABC timeouts or very very long at this time of

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<v Speaker 2>year in the playoffs, so you have to depend on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then too you have to find another initial ball

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<v Speaker 2>handler you got and that's where they've struggled, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if they had one weakness in their roster,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have another true, true backup point guard. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you can tread water with a guy like Jalen Williams

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<v Speaker 2>can bring it up, Cason Wallace can bring it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and tread Water Isaiah Joe alex Caruso can bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, Shay Alexander and there's the

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<v Speaker 2>main initiator on the offense. But somehow, some way, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to help help someone else to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him run down to the corner of rest and

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<v Speaker 2>then flash to the elbow, as you said, a flash

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<v Speaker 2>up on the weak side to get it because they

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<v Speaker 2>are draped all over that young man. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fifteen round bout and by the twelve thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth round he is dragging I don't care who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>and doing as much work exactly as high as usage

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<v Speaker 2>rate that he as he has. They struggle, so they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to find a secondary ball handle to bring it

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<v Speaker 2>up and give him a rest to make him more effective,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne, I appreciate you like always, Thank you for calling

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<v Speaker 1>in the Esports Radio. We'll talk next week and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're watching the US Open because I am Dwayne

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<v Speaker 1>love you. Take care Esports Radio. We're out, have a

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<v Speaker 1>great weekend. Talk to you on Monday. God willing, Bye

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<v Speaker 1>bye
