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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Dan are here. Thanks for checking out the show. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you may or may not be aware, but

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty fifteen, I launched this podcast with my

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<v Speaker 1>co host at the time, Mitch, and we reviewed every

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the first ten seasons, released a book called

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<v Speaker 1>Homer's Odyssey and am Big and Simpson's Guide, and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much just lay the foundation for what has become the

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<v Speaker 1>four Finger Discount Network. Fast forward to twenty twenty, Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take a break from podcasting to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>things like family and work, and that's where Guy entered

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<v Speaker 1>the equation and has been doing a sensational job since

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll continue to do so. But now six years later,

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch is also back, and he and I are kicking

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<v Speaker 1>off where we left off by reviewing season eleven of

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<v Speaker 1>The Simpsons and onwards exclusively for our Patreon. We just

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<v Speaker 1>released our review of Guesses Coming to Criticizedda, a really

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<v Speaker 1>fun episode which you're going to be getting a sneak

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<v Speaker 1>peek at here. And if you like what you hear

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to hear more Mitch and Dando each

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<v Speaker 1>and every month, you can do so by joining the

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<v Speaker 1>four Finger Discount family on Patreon, where all of your

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<v Speaker 1>support is much appreciated and is so pivotal to the

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<v Speaker 1>survival of the forefinger discount that way, But thank you

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<v Speaker 1>again for checking out the show, and I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy Mitch and Danda reviewing. Guess who's coming to criticize you?

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<v Speaker 1>See you all next week with Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well least you like the food.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like food, alright. I like Pitza, I like Babelds.

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<v Speaker 3>I like hot dogs with mustard and bee.

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<v Speaker 2>I get the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie day Plan, I couldn't even need a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>De la la la la la.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you run the lower four finger discounting?

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<v Speaker 1>Once in a great while, we are privileged to experience

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast event so extraordinary it becomes part of our

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<v Speaker 1>shared heritage. Twenty ten The concept of true crime podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty thirteen, Mark Maroon releases these first podcast episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Then for a long time, nothing happened until tonight. Behold

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<v Speaker 1>the future of podcasting. It's a bitch. Hey, he's back.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing happened that includes our own.

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<v Speaker 1>Show it when we only released a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can see that there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to be back, Dando. It's necessary to be back. Truthfully,

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<v Speaker 3>I've fallen on half times.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot of people won't know this, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually spent the last five or six years operating Jackie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a little bit of an industry insider thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She is not a real human. She's a very early

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<v Speaker 3>AI model, but they didn't have the processing power back

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<v Speaker 3>then to handle movement of speech. So I see it

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<v Speaker 3>in a control booth and I kind of move her

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<v Speaker 3>around the Kiss FM studios. It was the only way

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<v Speaker 3>they could get anyone to spend that much time in

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<v Speaker 3>a room with Kyle Sandalance. Year after year after year.

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<v Speaker 3>It was if they weren't real. But now that's all

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<v Speaker 3>fucked up, so I've lost my payday. Sophie Monk, I

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<v Speaker 3>applied for that, but that guy, the guy that controls her,

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<v Speaker 3>is on a watertight contract. So sitting at home thinking

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<v Speaker 3>what am I gonna do? And then out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 3>you sent me a message. She said, look, I'll buy

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<v Speaker 3>you a tank of fuel if you come around and

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<v Speaker 3>record six hundred hours worth of podcast And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>that seems like it's a pretty good hourly rate. So

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<v Speaker 3>here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyl Sanderlands would you rather drop your pants for food

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<v Speaker 1>or work with Kyl Sanders?

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<v Speaker 3>I would rather drop my pants for prison.

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<v Speaker 1>A Stables's character, whoever that was in OZ? What was

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<v Speaker 1>Stables character?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. OZ is a traumatic experience for me

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<v Speaker 3>is like a nightmare that you blank on as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you wake up, and all that you know happened

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<v Speaker 3>is that you were sweating and afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I remember watching every episode and then I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of forgot about the show and we watched SVU for

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<v Speaker 1>years back, and I was like a stable you turn to.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, Oz, Oh my god, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the one blood of my dick or shitter my knife? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>my dick or blood of my knife.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you whatever it is, whatever it is, neither of

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<v Speaker 3>those things should be about it. I was what did

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<v Speaker 3>I watched yesterday during number two? And Jak goan, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty good. But JK. Simmons is just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>because his OZ character still rains so large and everything

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Billy West about him recently, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the yellow Eminem and Billy is the red I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that. Yeah, and that's where they did he

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<v Speaker 1>take over from. No, he was the very He's always

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<v Speaker 1>been the yellow eminem and Billy's always been the red.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did I think Phil Harmon was involved in the eminems?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Harmon was going to be Zap Brannigan before he passed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Billy obviously was given a role and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a Phil Hartmon tribute. Is that Brannigan for futuremer

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<v Speaker 1>But no, they've always been the eminem But he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely lovely to work for with. Yeah, okay, interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're here today to review which episode because what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is we started a podcast in twenty fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>after a few years or you got to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you stopped watching The Simpsons. Yeah, on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got past the point that I had connected

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<v Speaker 3>with it from from my youth, and it felt like

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<v Speaker 3>too big of a transition, particularly because we were just

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<v Speaker 3>doing this week on week on week that suddenly I

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<v Speaker 3>had stepped into a period where I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I'm going to be able to give the

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<v Speaker 3>best take on this to the audience that for what

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<v Speaker 1>Want, I think this is the first time since you

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<v Speaker 1>left the show that you've recorded a Simpsons podcast review

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<v Speaker 1>in this room. I think it is, Yeah, because we

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<v Speaker 1>did it over zoom or whatever it was, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the same. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well like COVID had happened around that time, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you left and the inn COVID appened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not only that, it's the first time I've been

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<v Speaker 3>to the house for quite a while. Like I come here,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a hold and parked out the front. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a novelty door mat Genuinely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I grew up. We've got books on his shelf.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean books about the Simpsons, but still.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually and other things. Got warning book up there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Stewarts in Curry's book Michael Richards book talk about

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<v Speaker 3>I think so he came.

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<v Speaker 1>The time has passed right over that didn't. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's been forgived. It was him he had to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, i'd certainly I think that if you

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<v Speaker 3>talk in power rankings, that Michael Richards is above Will

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<v Speaker 3>Smith or something like that in terms of.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that have happened since you left. Will Smith's career

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<v Speaker 1>is worse than ours.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, he won an Academy Award and then blew

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<v Speaker 3>his career up in the same night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, so he no, he did it first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it all happened on the same night. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like he won the award. Everyone's like, do

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not what you want as the first actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wasn't wasn't great. But so I've had another child.

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<v Speaker 1>Both my children are now starting school. You've had a child.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was never on the cards when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the podcast. No, you were not going to become

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<v Speaker 1>a father.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's probably some very incriminating evidence of.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on record. I don't go back and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the old ones. People are like, he should go back

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<v Speaker 1>and like cut out because you guys are always talking

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<v Speaker 1>about big Big Roddy's ribbon, ribbons shack whatever it was called.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I actually take pride in the fact that we've

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<v Speaker 3>outlasted a lot of our sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still going though, are they. Yeah, you'ready still going

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<v Speaker 1>on your ruddy Yeah? Were you? No, you didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>I never went there, no, Yeah, because I was in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends with Friends. Yeah, I just gave us so

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<v Speaker 1>much ribs it was great. Yeah, yeah, I mentioned Big

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<v Speaker 1>Rodd's ribs again. Maybe even get in touch with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They can sponsor this show. Do you reckon? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't four finger discount? What is this now?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it not fourth finger discount?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Fourthing a discount is like the I guess it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a it's weird because this is the original

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<v Speaker 1>fourthinger discounting. But it's like, is this this is exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>for Patreon? Is this like a sub category of fourthing

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<v Speaker 1>a discount? Was it just I'll just go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the archive and wipe everything that guy did for the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years. I don't know I made the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Finger now Nah, I don't think so finger. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically what we're doing is we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>kicking off because we tried did a soft launch about

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years ago. Yeah, and it didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>Lex was too young.

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<v Speaker 3>Your Lex was too young. You booked Grock and then

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly I slipped down the contacts list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, and it wasn't happening. But now we're here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to be doing this twice a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to start with guess who's went to criticized

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<v Speaker 1>in it? Which I thought was't a good episode of

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<v Speaker 1>kick Off for you, in particular because you're a I'd

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<v Speaker 1>call you a foodie.

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<v Speaker 3>A foodie and a snob, yes, the same thing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they go hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be a foodie and not be a snob?

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<v Speaker 3>Though Homer managed for the first half of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, until the other s's so good. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with being a critic, right do you think do you

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<v Speaker 1>buy into the mentality of you have to critique? I

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can critique and still be positive like

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<v Speaker 3>a critique. Oh, let's say that you can give feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of see critique as being an overall piece

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<v Speaker 3>if there's no bad. I think if you're a critic

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<v Speaker 3>and you're coming into something with the mentality of I

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<v Speaker 3>need to find something to dislike, then you'll do a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty shitty job of being a critic. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>back to when you were running the website and I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote a few video game critiques back then that I

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<v Speaker 3>approached it from the angle of who is this for?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you really which video games did you critique? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>did you do Batman, Arkhemasylum or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I did that. I did Lego something, okay, Lego,

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<v Speaker 1>because he goes, I haven't got time to waste energy

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<v Speaker 1>I't bother talking about it. Do you buy into that mantra?

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<v Speaker 3>that over any of the Cavil films because it had optimism.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, I don't think that he painted that with

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<v Speaker 3>Superman movie, he would have just said old direct But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so Superman one and two and then this one's called

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<v Speaker 3>Man of Steel.

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<v Speaker 1>The old one old one. It was just for Superman,

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<v Speaker 1>Might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I have you been to any recent films. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>And when I came back, they were only playing mothering heights.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't not funny how that moment just sticks with you.

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<v Speaker 1>a little later with your chicken. Yes exactly. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the other The first person done this too. It's happened

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like cooking chicken podcast. The chicken I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>that again was my scuttle No it was that you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear putting. Oh's a funny story about Superman. So

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<v Speaker 1>the kids love Superman one, and I've got all four

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<v Speaker 1>on four K, and they wanted to watch Superman two. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't putting it in. And I didn't say Superman two

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Maybe i'd opened it. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there. I'm sort of like cooking their getting

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<v Speaker 1>their lunch, eating and stuff, and I'm watching them like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>The only the only saving grace for the kids is

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<v Speaker 3>that you left them somewhere to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. The thing is the covers look so similar because

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<v Speaker 1>they released them all though very similar, just a Superman

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<v Speaker 1>one Superman two. I just grabbed it because obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember being this weird at the start, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. And then I actually still have

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<v Speaker 3>Quest for Quest for Peace Superman verse? He throws all

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<v Speaker 3>And don't we need that right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>We really do. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode? I guess who's come to criticized dinner? So

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<v Speaker 1>this is how much Simpsons have you watched since leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast at all? You haven't shown lex any.

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<v Speaker 3>Best part of it. I did turn it on for it,

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<v Speaker 3>just to see if she'd be visually interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Old or new ones, because the new one is more

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<v Speaker 1>visually stimulating, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, Now I went with I don't know what,

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<v Speaker 3>something from probably season three or four. I was trying

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<v Speaker 3>I was flicking around and seeing what sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>What she did like was BoJack Horseman. Really got into

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<v Speaker 3>the visuals of that. And I think the opening theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>Because putting the Simpsons on now for my kids like

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<v Speaker 1>the old ones, is the equivalent of my mum putting

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<v Speaker 1>on like a Scooby Doo cartoon visually. Yeah, it looks scratchy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of episodes over the last few years. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>in March season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think doing the podcast made you want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the show list less?

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to put some distance between myself and the show, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to try to just watch it and

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<v Speaker 3>be entertained by it again as opposed I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Only just starting to be able to do that. The

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<v Speaker 1>them enjoy it for the first time and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>living by carefully through that and stuff like I put

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<v Speaker 1>Who Shot Mister Burns on? And they didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, this is cool seeing kids, seeing my

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<v Speaker 1>kids experience the same way I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think when lex is a couple of years older,

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<v Speaker 3>that will be something that I do really look forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few things like that. Actually I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Of movies to show her what's your bocket.

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<v Speaker 3>List based on various points of her life. I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about how cool it's going to be a show.

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<v Speaker 1>I still haven't shown all yet, but he watched out

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<v Speaker 1>the first thirty minutes. He sort of turned a me

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<v Speaker 1>in his like when did the dinosaurs start? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, forty minutes in, there's barely any dinosaurs. There

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<v Speaker 1>aren't much that many dinosaurs in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>of films is really different these days.

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<v Speaker 3>With Jurassic Park. You need to get in maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>little earlier than you otherwise would, because part of you

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<v Speaker 3>might be like, dinosaurs is going to scare a five

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<v Speaker 3>year old, But if that five year old turns into

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<v Speaker 3>hyperactive movies where there's like, shit's got to happen in

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<v Speaker 3>the first five minutes or they're not going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>watching and they'll stop streaming. Then you've kind of primed

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<v Speaker 3>them to go. Be like if you and I sat

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<v Speaker 3>down right now to watch Lawrence of Arabia, Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 3>when's Lawrence going to fire a gun?

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<v Speaker 1>Skip intro? Speaking of right, so, because kids just don't

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<v Speaker 1>like sitting through credits, but I put Space on my

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<v Speaker 1>kids lost Space Jam right, you know, it's bright's colorful

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<v Speaker 1>shit going on. And Ali had a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 1>over I mentioned some on the podcast. Another one we

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<v Speaker 1>fucking MJ's doing slam dunks. You've got the Space Jam

423
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<v Speaker 1>song playing. It's great. This kid's just like push the

424
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<v Speaker 1>button skip intro. I'm like, are you out of your mind? Child?

425
00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It's Michael Jordan doing slam dunks to the Space Jam song.

426
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<v Speaker 1>He's like, skip intro. When do we skip intro?

427
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, I can't tolerate that. And Lex will

428
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<v Speaker 3>not grow up and a skip intro household. Yeah that

429
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<v Speaker 3>the intro sets the tying as the little as you

430
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<v Speaker 3>removes boosh gets the senses going.

431
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<v Speaker 1>And we sound like old men shaking their fistic cloud.

432
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<v Speaker 1>But it's very important, Like trained my kids to realize,

433
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<v Speaker 1>you don't skip the intros.

434
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<v Speaker 3>You are gonna watch this feather float through the air

435
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<v Speaker 3>for five fucking minutes before Tom Hanks speaks, and you're

436
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<v Speaker 3>gonna enjoy every second of it.

437
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<v Speaker 1>See my kids have, they've watched every episode of Fresh Prince.

438
00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.319
<v Speaker 1>They stream the share the Fresh Prince.

439
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<v Speaker 3>They get that intro.

440
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<v Speaker 1>The first time I put they skipped intro, I was like,

441
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<v Speaker 1>give me the remote, hold the phone. I went back

442
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<v Speaker 1>to the start and I said, you do not skip

443
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<v Speaker 1>this one. Do never skip this one actually tells you

444
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<v Speaker 1>the story. And now they lost into in the car like, ah,

445
00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.119
<v Speaker 1>oh shit. Intros are actually there's a point to them.

446
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<v Speaker 3>But you watch chasing how quickly that happened. Where Like

447
00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.440
<v Speaker 3>not long ago, Game of Thrones was praised for its intro. Yeah,

448
00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.279
<v Speaker 3>and we have five six years later and no one

449
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<v Speaker 3>be paying any attention to it. Yeah he was when

450
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<v Speaker 3>the breaking bad music kicked in and things like that. Yeah,

451
00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.119
<v Speaker 3>at least that short. Yes, we're watch taking bad as

452
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<v Speaker 3>a self skipping intro see how.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Guilty Pleasure show is s for you? Nicola and I

454
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<v Speaker 1>we'll watch it, watch it all the time, but we

455
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<v Speaker 1>will put it on occasionally. And the other night Nicola

456
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<v Speaker 1>like fucking skipped intro on the SVU intro. I was like, Nikola,

457
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<v Speaker 1>so I turned her and she looked at me. She

458
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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I didn't mean to. I'm like, you

459
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<v Speaker 1>better not, dav This that leads.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Me into the first question that I wrote, And it

461
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't answer how do I feel about the question? But

462
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<v Speaker 3>do you still watch the Simpsons intro when you're doing these?

463
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<v Speaker 3>Because I watched it in full for the couple episodes

464
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<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about.

465
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<v Speaker 1>I do when I'm doing it for the review because

466
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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I just want to get into watching

467
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<v Speaker 1>it mode. Yeah, yeah, I skipped the intro noun on

468
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<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus to the point, now can you believe this?

469
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<v Speaker 1>We had Matt someone on the show cause I noticed

470
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<v Speaker 1>it season thirty seven. They don't do the intro anymore really,

471
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<v Speaker 1>because there's no point, just cold they I would have

472
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<v Speaker 1>learned from the stats that people were skipping the intro,

473
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<v Speaker 1>so what's the point? And he said, I would rather

474
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<v Speaker 1>dedicate time to storytelling than have any intro.

475
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<v Speaker 3>This is another one of those reasons that I just

476
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<v Speaker 3>want the Internet to be shut off, be perfectly honest.

477
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<v Speaker 3>People are too quick to like just settle in.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah joy Yeah. So even the couch gags and I

479
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<v Speaker 1>have there's no couch gag.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Recording twenty two minutes, it's all intro.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the credits haven't stopped yet, there's no there's no

482
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<v Speaker 1>couch gags or anything. They had a couch gag for

483
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<v Speaker 1>the eight hundred episode because it was a special one,

484
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<v Speaker 1>but now it just goes the Simsons and it sort

485
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<v Speaker 1>of phades just in zooms into one of the letters

486
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<v Speaker 1>and goes him and that's the end of the episode,

487
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<v Speaker 1>just starts. Yeah okay, because they were saying people were

488
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<v Speaker 1>just skipping it, So why waste forty five seconds of

489
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<v Speaker 1>storytelling time on something that people are going to skip anyway?

490
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<v Speaker 3>Thirty seven years that's admirable because I would be like,

491
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<v Speaker 3>can we drag that intro out to three minutes people

492
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<v Speaker 3>skip it anyway, and that way I don't have to write.

493
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<v Speaker 1>This match then this isn't actually pretty good. I would

494
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<v Speaker 1>advise checking out the newer episodes, probably like season thirty

495
00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>five onwards. Yeah, because ol Genus left the show and

496
00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>now Matt Selman is taken over a show, we've got

497
00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a fresh voice. Yeah. Well, he was pretty much supposed

498
00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>running the show anyway, but now he's officially the solo showrunner.

499
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<v Speaker 1>He can just do what he wants having to get

500
00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the approval from up above, and yeah, it's better for it,

501
00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:15.519
<v Speaker 1>all right? Sweet this episode? What did you like?

502
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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

503
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<v Speaker 1>What did I like?

504
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<v Speaker 3>I liked that this was a wacky but believable enough

505
00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.559
<v Speaker 3>side plot, not side plot, but the idea of Homer

506
00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:28.160
<v Speaker 3>gets a new job and does whatever. And I kind

507
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<v Speaker 3>of liked that the fact that Lisa was the ghost

508
00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.079
<v Speaker 3>writer of all of it, and Homer and Lisa working

509
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<v Speaker 3>together hearkens back to earlier episodes and some really strong

510
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.400
<v Speaker 3>episodes where they would be in on things forgive me

511
00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:43.920
<v Speaker 3>for forgetting. Yeah, the gambling one is the one that

512
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<v Speaker 3>it kind of evoked. I also liked that for a

513
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<v Speaker 3>small period there, Homer actually found a second thing to

514
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<v Speaker 3>do that is genuinely good at. And what I mean

515
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<v Speaker 3>by that is he couldn't write, obviously, but he's genuinely

516
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<v Speaker 3>good at eating food, and he was genuinely good at

517
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.039
<v Speaker 3>finding stuff to be delicious and he made people happy

518
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<v Speaker 3>and that there wasn't any real spite or mean spiritedness

519
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.319
<v Speaker 3>in the episode overall. So it kind of felt of

520
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<v Speaker 3>an earlier error to a degree.

521
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<v Speaker 1>Because he didn't start becoming rude with with his reviews

522
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<v Speaker 1>until the other critics convinced him to do so peer

523
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<v Speaker 1>pressured him. It didn't just become a dick. He was

524
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<v Speaker 1>buckling to peer pressure.

525
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was doing it because he thought that's what

526
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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to do.

527
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<v Speaker 1>I do think they could have maybe focused more on

528
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<v Speaker 1>the Lisa homodynamic and her being sad that they had

529
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<v Speaker 1>this thing going well together and she was enjoying having

530
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<v Speaker 1>her stuff printed in the paper yep, and now she's

531
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<v Speaker 1>no longer able to do that, she can't work with

532
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<v Speaker 1>him as a team anymore, and she was and seeing

533
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<v Speaker 1>the impact that had on her.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that would be, you know, the legacy, and

535
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<v Speaker 3>I do want to try to avoid doing that versus

536
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<v Speaker 3>or then really try to. Yeah, it's hard, but that

537
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<v Speaker 3>would be If this was a James L. Brooks error,

538
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<v Speaker 3>they definitely would have done that.

539
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<v Speaker 1>That would have been the focus, not some wacky let's

540
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<v Speaker 1>make a bigger Claire Le bomb, Yeah, to kill him overall.

541
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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I kind of took away from

542
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of forgotten that the pace of the

543
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.519
<v Speaker 3>jokes just slows down a little bit. Yeah, And I

544
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<v Speaker 3>guess there'sn't that element of which we've spoke about many

545
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.559
<v Speaker 3>many years ago, of the change in the writer's room

546
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.480
<v Speaker 3>culture that you wouldn't stay there until three in the

547
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<v Speaker 3>morning trying to carve out the absolutely every last ounce

548
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Speaker 3>of a joke. So there's really good jokes in this

549
00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I just found them less frequent. But I did have

550
00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 3>some really really big bally laughs.

551
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<v Speaker 1>Are we surprised by that? We enjoyed by that knowing

552
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<v Speaker 1>because you know, this isn't this isn't your era. No,

553
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<v Speaker 1>I had you seen this one before?

554
00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I wasn't surprised by it. It's not

555
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 3>like I knew that. It's not like I thought the

556
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.440
<v Speaker 3>show wouldn't be funny, just not as Yeah, Like I

557
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 3>didn't think it was like, yeah, ten out of ten

558
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 3>fucking one. It was more like a tapers and there

559
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.039
<v Speaker 3>were there are other things of a higher quality that

560
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'll invest my time over here. And

561
00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.440
<v Speaker 3>South Park was coming along as a pretty fresh voice.

562
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>This was ninety nine. South Park kicked off in ninety seven,

563
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight year. Yeah, so it was more that it

564
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, it's this new shiny toy and family

565
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:20.599
<v Speaker 1>were your family guy going. Yeah, when it started the

566
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>first season, I think the family Guy because it was

567
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>different ye, Futurama and Dilbert, and it was quite a

568
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>big deal with at the time, and Scott Adams made

569
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Rest in Peace. I had recently Scott, A lot of

570
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:34.559
<v Speaker 1>people didn't like the guy.

571
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<v Speaker 3>Oh he's a bastard. I hate to speak ill of

572
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.359
<v Speaker 3>the dead, dad note, but fuck.

573
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<v Speaker 1>Me speaking of ill of the dead. Speaking of speaking

574
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<v Speaker 1>of ill of the dead, I should say. We spoke

575
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<v Speaker 1>to Jay Kergan today for our last exit at the

576
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Springfield Reviewer. But yeat at some point some negative things

577
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to say about Sam Simon, which really, really I was

578
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>surprised by because you only ever hear nicest guy. You know,

579
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he dedicated a lot of his money to looking after animals,

580
00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, he's lovely and apparently just a motherfucker to

581
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 1>work with, right. Yeah, but it's like, you know, it

582
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>was explaining you've got to have that mongrel to you

583
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 1>to get results on that dog at him. Yeah, So

584
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>look at for that last exit of the Springfield. But

585
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you're right though with the with the amount of gags,

586
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 1>because Last Exit Springfield is one of those episodes it's

587
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.079
<v Speaker 1>just jo jo jo Jo joke, Joe joke. And then

588
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you watch this one. This one's almost like a breath

589
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.319
<v Speaker 1>of fresh air to an extent because you can sort

590
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of relax a bit. Yeah, but in saying that it's

591
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>not as funny as a result, No, it's a different

592
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny. I guess, yeah it is.

593
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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, it's like if I could spoil

594
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<v Speaker 3>my absolute favorite moment in the episode and the funniest part.

595
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<v Speaker 3>So at the beginning, the little callback I haven't seen

596
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.079
<v Speaker 3>for four years, Like, no, that's funny. But then when

597
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 3>they're at the dinner table, it's like passed on, pass

598
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 3>it on, passing on. We just want to know where

599
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:50.799
<v Speaker 3>our Sunday is, Kils. It's like that that slayed me.

600
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 3>And as much as you know, structurally it's pulled back

601
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 3>and reveal, but execute it so.

602
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.799
<v Speaker 1>So fucking well because the thing is Utter gets attacked.

603
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Pta de Spam, which is like season six,

604
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 1>and I think you might see him nah, because he's

605
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in dast Bus, I think anyway, But like the last

606
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>field trip, he gets like left behind and they get

607
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a beat the shit out of him basically, and you

608
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>think they've killed Uda. And I think that's what this

609
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>joke is referring to, that we haven't seen him since

610
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that field trip. But even though he has been seen since,

611
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I think.

612
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I thought it was dust Bus and maybe

613
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 3>he just got left on the island, but bands is

614
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 3>that they remember they're looking over the fence and yeah,

615
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the but regardless, I just I think that that is

616
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<v Speaker 3>one where if it's joke jo jo jo joke joke,

617
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 3>then that one doesn't hit as hard. So you know,

618
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 3>that was just very very funny.

619
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<v Speaker 1>So Asna he played the editor, Yeah right, and the

620
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>old man from up.

621
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<v Speaker 3>I did not look that up, but I knew that

622
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 3>voice was familiar to Yeah.

623
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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a good job. Apparently it's based

624
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<v Speaker 1>on Lou Grant, who was a character from the marytyle

625
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>More show, which is James L. So, James L. Brooks

626
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>created that show. He created the character of Lou Grant,

627
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's who this editor was based on.

628
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a deep cut references it is.

629
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I thought he did a good job as

630
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<v Speaker 1>the editor.

631
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, other than if you can write me one article,

632
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<v Speaker 3>I'll put you on the payroll.

633
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<v Speaker 1>The logic of it.

634
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's how Mary Tyler Moore got to work. I

635
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen enough of that show, but yeah, I was like, Oh,

636
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a swing. Anyone can stitch. Maybe not anyone,

637
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of people could stitch five hundred words together.

638
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 3>In this job market. It's probably not happening.

639
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<v Speaker 1>Was bobs Burgers in this economy? Yeah? I have watched

640
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<v Speaker 1>Bob bobs Burgers. I think in this economy can be

641
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>anything that speaking of things that are a bit logical.

642
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<v Speaker 1>So there's no E on the typewriter. Explain to me

643
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>how he repeatedly writes screw Flanders. Mmm, I mean you could,

644
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess write screw Flanders without the E would be

645
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 1>incorrectly that.

646
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't noticed that. In a moment, my brain was

647
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<v Speaker 3>willing to go along with that for the quality of

648
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 3>the joke.

649
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was. And then I like the call back

650
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 1>again later on two more words, screw Flanders appetite, Yes, indeed,

651
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>have you.

652
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<v Speaker 3>What's the dodgiest trick you ever pulled?

653
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<v Speaker 1>For a word? Count, when's the last night to write

654
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>some for all? Work out what do we do for

655
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 1>our book? Do we just do we do for a book?

656
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Book was like seventy thousand words, wasn't it.

657
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did some padding, Yeah that quick, get some trivia,

658
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>find an interview that we did, let's transcribe it, transcribe,

659
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<v Speaker 3>transcribe our conversations. I remember discovering the trick that you

660
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<v Speaker 3>could chuck words sort of around the margins or at

661
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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the top of a page in Microsoft

662
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<v Speaker 3>Word and then just change it to a white font.

663
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<v Speaker 1>So when did that go?

664
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<v Speaker 3>Tools word count? They'd be like, that's it the mark

665
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and how did you do that?

666
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Did you be a call for it?

667
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Two or three times? Early days of computers where it

668
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 3>was like, let's just take a swing that they don't

669
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<v Speaker 3>know what they're doing, and I'll be okay.

670
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<v Speaker 1>How tempted would you be now if you're doing year

671
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<v Speaker 1>twelve now to use GPT for writing stuff or at

672
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<v Speaker 1>least give you an idea of where to go with something.

673
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would one hundred percent use it for structure.

675
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I wouldn't just copy page.

676
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<v Speaker 3>I actually something happen at work a little while ago,

677
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 3>where I had used co pilot to kind of help

678
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 3>structure the way something should be. And I put it

679
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 3>all together and I rewrote a bunch and I sent

680
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<v Speaker 3>it to my manager and they were like, this is

681
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>really good, except this paragraph here. Can you make that

682
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 3>sound less like copilot? And it was the only paragraph

683
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 3>that I wrote that is one hundred percent. I made

684
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<v Speaker 3>that up.

685
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>The rest wasn't.

686
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 3>No, he knew that that was fine.

687
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the joke.

688
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he was in on it. Maybe he realized this

689
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>is this is too shit to be copilot. Maybe I

690
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 3>just used a few to a few too many fancy words.

691
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>I think, just me, I was just I just kept

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<v Speaker 3>it simple. I just never abbreviated anything because I am

693
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<v Speaker 3>yeah it is ah, yeah, that does work.

694
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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good way to go, and it needs

695
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>to go. You really should be using more abbreviation. Why yeah,

696
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>you're want of whats a thousand words?

697
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<v Speaker 3>This is the way the language was invented. Is it not.

698
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<v Speaker 1>My favorite favorite moments from the episode? As I said,

699
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually write any favorite moments, but I'm sure

700
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I can wing something. Yeah.

701
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that was mostly what I had to remove

702
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>all traces of asbestos and references to evolution has aged

703
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>frighteningly well.

704
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Because this episode and twenty seven years ago mind boggling.

705
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's pretty nuts.

706
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 1>But this feels like it still feels starts like a

707
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 1>newer episode, doesn't it. Yeah, I think someone like you

708
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 1>who hasn't watched the new or newer ones. When I

709
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, he can Hear Pudding.

710
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 3>Was a joke that I really really liked. And it's

711
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>a great life. It's a great line reading, yeah, said

712
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>with admiration.

713
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just we can hear pudding. Yeah, yeah, his admiration.

714
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>You're right. I liked when I was a kid that

715
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 1>growing grabbingly, growing grabbingly good team.

716
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interestingly, that's one that I wrote down for Age

717
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 3>the Worst, just describing a father daughter relationship as growing gravitally,

718
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 3>and it felt like that was dangerous territory?

719
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Was that ever? Not dangerous territory? Though I wouldn't say

720
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>aged terribly, It was just was there ever an acceptable

721
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>term for a daddy daughter team.

722
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 3>There's been quite a few prominent legal actions recently that

723
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 3>would suggests that maybe people look the other way about it.

724
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Ninety ninety nine.

725
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mind, Homer just it doesn't really make sense.

726
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 1>But I got two words for you much cheek and beak.

727
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 3>What what is shaking bake? I'm going to google it

728
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 3>because I've never seen it in Australia.

729
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you hear about a lot in American TV. Yeah,

730
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 1>shake and bake. It is a seasoned bread crumb coating

731
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>originally marketed to mimic the flavor and texture of fried chicken,

732
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 1>introduced to nine in sixty five by General Foods. Of

733
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>course there's a breadcumb seasoning bread whatte season bread crumbs?

734
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Bread cumb season Well, at least with that you wouldn't

735
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.839
<v Speaker 1>need to bother whipping an egg. Actually, that's a good

736
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>way the egg whisk gag, putting together the egg whisky

737
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 1>from the case as.

738
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>If it was a rifle. Very cool, kind of assassin.

739
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Putting in the usual the antidote at the end. Yeah, yeah,

740
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>so I noticed something by the way, something on the.

741
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Actually felt very Steve Martin. Yeah, that felt a little

742
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 3>bit like a sort of physic comedy skit that he

743
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 3>would do. Yeah, because it's something that you've brought on

744
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>the floor down here, have we save it for the end.

745
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna do it before we get into like a

746
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>little quick run through. We'll save it for the end,

747
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>so over the end. Yeah, we'll get something I'm gonna

748
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>give to you before I supposed to get to the

749
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 3>start and I forgot.

750
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, here is something for you. It's this, Ah,

751
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got a giant Cats mug. You've got a giant

752
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Hawk smug. Because let's be honest, these were the best

753
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 1>mascots in AFL history, right, these two specific ones, these

754
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 1>two specific ones. Yes, I like that the Hawk mascot

755
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 1>looks like Dermy he does. It was definitely designed to

756
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 1>look at it does. Yeah, I will showed to go back.

757
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like everything needs to be simplified now, everything

758
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of. You go to macasine looks like an Ikea store.

759
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>It's all simplied. McDonald doesn't even sa McDonalds anymore than science.

760
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>They've taken the way McDonald's away. It's just a giant

761
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 1>m now.

762
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, you know, Lex calls McDonald's old McDonald's. She learned

763
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the song first, and it's very wholesome.

764
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 1>And I won't correct These are things when their kids

765
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>right and they say things incorrectly, don't correct them. Yeah, No,

766
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>because once they corrected that and do it anymore, you know, no,

767
00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>it's gone.

768
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I actually have a little keep note file of

769
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>lexisms of things that she used to say I wish

770
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I did lately as an educator named Trinity, that she

771
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 3>would go on this like almost endless run where she

772
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 3>pronounced the name of Trinity and it was yeah, I

773
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:17.240
<v Speaker 3>don't want that to change.

774
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>See Alliott. I can't explain why, but his original way

775
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 1>of saying thank you, he'd say button, so he go

776
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>thank you, you go bum and then one day he

777
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 1>just goes thank you and oh, oh but bum.

778
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 3>He's just like that's in the Cradle in the Silver Spell.

779
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 1>I never fee the day where he said thank you

780
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for the person. I was like, oh, that's the end

781
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>of Barton.

782
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's illogical, makes no sense of the first time

783
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Las lacks first time lex pronounced helicopter, yeah, correctly because

784
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 3>that was Halli Potter. Yeah, it's time.

785
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's like it's actually a better word. I'd prefer

786
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 1>called Halli Potter. That's what in the new Harry Potter film,

787
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what he'd be flying around. Fuck the room stick
