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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure to welcome to our podcast this week

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one of the best young fighters in boxing and the

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up and coming lightweight contender, one of my past prospects

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of the year. It's Kishan Davis. Kishan, We're here to

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talk about your main event, your first main event against Gustavolemos.

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It will take place on November eighth, I'll headline the

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top rank of boxing on ESPN Plus card in your

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hometown of Norfolk, Virginia. Welcome to the show. Thank you

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very much for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You bet all right. You know what I was thinking

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about this. Since you turned professional, you've had a spotlight

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on you pretty much the entire time, ever since You've

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got to silver medal in the Olympics in those delayed

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twenty twenty Tokyo Olympic Games, and so I don't think

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that's anything new to you, and I've interviewed you before

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you've seem pretty poised about those types of things. But

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now you have your first main event. You've taken on

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what I think most people would consider in Gustavo Lemos

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by far your best opponent so far as a young professional,

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and on top top of that, You're doing this headline

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fight in your hometown, like your homecoming, your first ever

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fight as a professional in your hometown. So I wonder

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do you feel pressure from that or is it more

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like just a level of like super excitement about it.

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Speaker 3: Noah, just not even excited as confident. You can't get

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too excited and excited and train your energy. I'm just confident,

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staying calm, and I know how to fight. At the

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end of the day, I'm not tripping off of who

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in that ring with me. It could have been it

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could have been anybody in that ring with me, you know,

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So I know what I can do, no extra pressure

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at all.

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Speaker 1: So when you when you got notified that this fight

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was going to take place in Norfolk, I was wondering,

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was this something that you had aspired to for a while.

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Had you been talking to maybe top rank or your management,

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Hey can we do a fight at home? Or was

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it something that they came to you and said, is

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this something you'd like to do and to go home

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to perform in front of the hometown.

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Speaker 3: Well, me and my brother's been talking about this since

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Will was amateur, since we was middle school, high school,

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you know, so we were going to do this with

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what company we landed on, I don't care whoever it was.

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Thank god we land on Top Rank, one of the

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best companies in the business. And the day the first day,

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like after the Olympics, you know, did my little Olympic

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run after the Olympics, had parades and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: The very first day we sat down with Todd Ring.

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Speaker 3: It would be my brother, my big brother, Kelvin, my mother,

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and we was talking about a homecoming come back to

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the town. He was already talking about it before I

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signed with Top Rank, having a meet and getting the

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contract stuff situated.

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Speaker 2: So we already had a vision for this and we

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made it happen.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it was just a matter of them

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bringing you home when you were ready to be the

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main event, as opposed to going to Norfolk when you're

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going to be like in an eight round or something

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on the undercard. Is that sort of the scenario.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, they can't. They can't bring nobody

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to my hometown. This is me main event. So we

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already had that cover. Like when we come home, I'm

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we be made event for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned like your older brother Kelvin, that's you know,

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you're a lightweight. He's in the Junior Wealth wad Vision,

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he's on the show. And now you guys have fought

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on the same cards before, as you guys have gone

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through the early part of your career. But now also

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I think what probably adds to the special nature of

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this is that your younger brother, uh Keon Davis, who

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is also he's a welterweight. He's making his professional debut

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on this card. So when you think about that, that

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you're the headliner, but your two brothers who I know

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you're close to, are also going to perform on the

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same event, what does that mean to you? And what

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does that just mean to like your mom, to the

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whole family.

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Speaker 2: His major Like, everybody from my family is coming.

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Speaker 3: I got a family in New York, I got family

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North Carolina, I got.

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Speaker 2: A family in Virginia. I got a family everywhere. And

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they all coming out, you know, and oh, we all excited.

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Speaker 3: They all excited. They know it's gonna be a big event.

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But we know at the end of the day, we

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gotta still win, you know what I'm saying. So we

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gotta make we gotta make the night happen, you know, saying,

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So we all just stay focused and just trying to make.

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Speaker 2: This event the best, one of the best events of

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this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, as far as the event

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aspect of it goes, it's already seems like it's a

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success in talking to people at top rank ever since

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that you know, this has going not just from today,

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but I mean, men, just a couple of weeks ago,

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they were already saying that the tickets were basically sold out,

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that the town is really, you know, geared up for

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this event. How much do you realize that that that

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there's been a pent up demand I guess for you know,

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either for the Davis Brothers to perform at home or

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just for a big time boxing event in the first

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place that you're able to bring in this number of fans.

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It's not a world championship fight. You're not fighting some huge,

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big name opponent that everybody has been dying to sty

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or anything like that. So what is your mentality as

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far as the reaction to your city to this event.

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Speaker 2: Right now? You're right, man.

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Speaker 3: My first appoint was Nicholas Watchers, and they don't know

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Nicholas Washes the same way they don't know Gustavo Nemos.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But one thing I did want them to know and

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remember is that fight. I couldn't put in a great

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fight with Nicholas Watchers. I was gonna knock him out

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in like four rounds. He's thirty eight years old, he's

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an old man. But with Gustabo lemb Most, that's what

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they're gonna actually remember, they're gonna that fight. And you

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know what those they're gonna that's gonna make them come

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to my next one. That's gonna make them come to

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my very my own, my next one after that. You

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know what I'm saying. I need to sell myself at

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this point. I don't need to give him something just

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something expected. I need to give him something unexpected. And

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Gustavo is gonna bring a fight to me, and I'm

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a fighter. I'm gonna bring a fight to him. Two

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fighters with that same mentality, it's gonna do nothing but

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make a great fight.

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Speaker 1: Well, he asked you a little bit about Lemo, so

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he's no joke. I mean I've seen him fight before.

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He's twenty nine and one, he has nineteen knockouts. His

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only loss was fighting at one hundred and forty pounds

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in his last fight and when he when he got

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lost a decision to Richard Hitchins in April. That was

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a title elimination fight. So now he's coming back to

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fight you in the lightweight division. So what are your

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thoughts about him? I know you said you know he's

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gonna come to make the fight, but what what kind

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of things have you seen in him that you feel like,

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you know, you need to take away from him to

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be successful?

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Speaker 2: Everything limos do I think better than him.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sound cocky or nothing like that,

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but I know boxing, and I know myself, you know,

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and I never lie to y'all.

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Speaker 2: I always, you know, gave my predictions before the fight,

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and nine times out of ten I was right, you know.

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Speaker 3: And just with Gustavo, anything that he does, I do

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better than him. If you want to fight on the inside,

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you don't have a better inside game.

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Speaker 2: I mean you think he punched hard, well, huh, I

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punch hard to.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if you take my punches, you know, Let's

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see how fast you are.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how good your jab is. Let's let's let's

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see how you set your punches up. Let's see how good.

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Speaker 3: Your angles are like everything that he do, I do

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better than him. So in terms of like just this

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fight right here, people want to say, oh, Gustavo is this,

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Gustavo is dead.

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Speaker 2: No, Keyshawn is this.

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Speaker 3: Key Shawn is dead, and Gustavo is gonna have his

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first his first step up of his career.

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Speaker 1: You think, do you think you're more of a step

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up than Richardson Hitchins, who's maybe a little bit more

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advanced in terms of where he is in his pro

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curer even though obviously you guys are both very talented fighters.

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Speaker 3: I'm the best at one thirty fives period, and I'm

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here to show the world. I'm not trying to say

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I'm the best when I become world champions. I'm not

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trying to say I'm the best when I become the

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face of boxing. I'm saying I'm the best right now

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and I'm going to continue to show that.

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Speaker 1: So with the aspect of this fight, the big part

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of it being that you're fighting in Norfolk, I wonder

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and I've covered plenty of fighters that have gone home.

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Some embrace it and love it and can't get enough

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of it. Other guys, the distractions just overcome them. And

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it's never it's sometimes a bad night. How do you

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go about avoiding the inevitable distractions and the pull on

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your time and mentality of you know, being the focus

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of everything at home? There's always kind of people coming

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all over the place in terms of like tickets and

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interviews even more than normal that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you a quick little story man, about

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my love, my love, my trials and true relations that

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I had before I even got on the Olympic team.

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Speaker 2: God put me to a great test.

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Speaker 3: He took me to the to the mental home basically,

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and I was just all lived to talk about this,

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but he took me to the mental home.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: In the mental home, I was, I was, I was

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talking to God. I said, God, I know you, I

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know you. I know you not kicking me while I'm down,

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but I know you breaking me down right now before

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you build me up. And I know and I know

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you know. I got the confidence. I know you know

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I got the will, the ability to win. But you're

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just trying to get my mental right in my In

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the in the mental home.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking this. I haven't been through I've don't been

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through that right there.

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Speaker 3: The mental health and stuff, I done, took the medication

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every day. I done hard myself. I've done been through

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all of that. So in terms of distractions and people.

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Speaker 2: Talking about tickets and people talking about interviews, that's nothing.

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That's nothing. I already been through the worst in terms

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of being.

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Speaker 3: Mentally prepared for something. God already put me to the worst.

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So everything I'm going through right now is.

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Speaker 2: The reasons why I am who I am, the reasons.

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Speaker 3: Why that last fight I had a straight face on

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my face the entire time.

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Speaker 2: That fight was the most rugged fight at the ninth

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It was rugged, it was dirty.

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Speaker 3: It hit me below the belt. I'm still playing in

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the ring. I'm still having fun. So God already put

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me to the worst to get ready to prepare my mental.

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Speaker 2: For what's to come.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the Miguel Mdweno fight, your last bout, Yes, sure, okay.

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In terms of Norfolk, I mean there hasn't been big

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boxing events there since. You got to go back to

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like the you know, the late I guess the mid

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eighties into the early nineties, when you know the legendary,

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late great Hall of Famer Paranel Whitaker, who's from Norfolk.

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One of the greatest fighters of all time, former champion

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and multiple divisions undisputed lightweight champion, the same weight class

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that I assumed that you would like to be an

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undisputed champion in someday. He's the last guy that really

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filled up the scope for boxing. I mean, that's thirty

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years ago. Probably. What does it mean to you to

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follow in the footsteps of somebody that you said in

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the announcement of this fight was your idol?

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Speaker 2: No, it definitely was.

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Speaker 1: He's smiling another way when I brought up Whittaker's name, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Definitely was thirty years ago because I got stories about

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Prenell Man then trained me before you know Toby two

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two of my greatest attributes that I still use to

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this day. When I was he told me this when

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I was like sixteen years old. He said, these are

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two greatest attributes. Don't ever lose.

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Speaker 2: That, you know. So I just kept that with me.

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But outside of you know, just.

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Speaker 1: Him, what was the attributes? You got to tell you.

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Speaker 2: What I'm not telling you.

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Speaker 3: I would tell you face to face, but I'm not

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telling you up here, you know, but just selling out

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the scope like how he did. Man for our first

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dB three, first main event. Man, it's a blessing. It's

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God Like. This is written when we was born. God

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already written out a plan for us. Like, seriously, I

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cannot stress this enough. This is what God wanted to happen, Like,

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this is our first main event. Who expects to sell

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out anything for the first main event.

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Speaker 2: We could have took it to a theater.

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Speaker 3: They probably won't think we're gonna sell ot the theater.

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This is an arena with ten thousand seats in it.

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We already sold nine thousand seats.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so for sure. Everybody thinks.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about Whitaker, I mean, obviously he

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got to know him after he was retired, But those

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days of him fighting those fights in nor fucking bringing

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in those crowds, and a lot of those fights were

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on national television. That was before you were born. I

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remember that because I remember watching them. I'm a lot

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older than you were. But how did you, uh, like,

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have you gone back and watched those fights and like

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and been a fan of Whittaker, not just because you

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knew him, but just as a boxer in the same

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way class that you hope to dominate. Also like the

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way he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely went back and watched the fights. Todd

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RNK sent me some fights of how he walked out

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and just a lot of different things, so I can

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get ideas from different things and how sweet Pages had

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to scope with the what the energy was like in

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the scope, so they can give me a perspective of

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how I'm gonna have it, so I won't be walking

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into something like wow, I didn't expect it, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So definitely we got to watch some of.

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Speaker 3: His fights and Todd RNK sent me some of his

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fights and how he had to scope. So definitely inspired me.

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And I'm like, damn, man, if I can do it

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like that, then that would be great. But we're trying

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to go for better, you know what I'm saying, Always

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trying to go for better, So we go see how

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it turns out for sure.

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Speaker 1: So it was around this time last year you had

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gotten the victory against the heir Albright. It was a

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competitive fight, but you know, I see you know, you

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know what I'm gonna ask you about. It became a

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no contest. You had a tested positive for marijuana, which

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is not looked at these days as a negativity from

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a lot of people, but it is still against the

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rules of most boxing commissions as far as I'm aware.

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And I remember when you came back from that, you

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spoke to uh I think it was on one of

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the ESPN shows about you know, you've given up smoking marijuana.

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You feel like it's gonna make you better. Since that

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situation you did your suspension, You've came back and you

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looked really good. You had a great performance against Jose Pedraza,

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which was a step up opponent at that time, a

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former two division world champ. You just mentioned about how

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you you know, you got in there and took care

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of Miguel Maduena in a tough, rugged fight. So I'm wondering,

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assuming you still are not smoking weed, how much has

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that that decision that you made improved you know, your

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life and your performance as a as a as a

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professional athlete.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Man, I gave I gave it to God, man, And

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I'm not gonna sit hearing and lie to y'all and

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say I didn't you know, slip up and get back

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to it. But I'm clean for sure. I'm still clean.

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God still working on me. And like I said, I

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never lied to y'all. Still not gonna love to y'all,

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you know. And I feel like you know, once I

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did once I once, I gave it up and just

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kept moving forward with it and just having hiccups in between, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Just getting just getting getting, getting back to praying, getting

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back to God.

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Speaker 3: And he God is the only person that can in addictions. Honestly,

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you can't do it without him. So just keeping him

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close to me, honestly in my career period, He's gonna

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take me to the magnitudes.

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Speaker 2: That I never expected, honestly.

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Speaker 3: And since this camp, you know, I've been going to

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church every Sunday. You know, I had my son within

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this camp, and since he been born, he didn't miss

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a church in Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And I've just been.

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Speaker 3: Really just wrapping my life around God, honestly. And I

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know you asked about the weed, but it's bigger than we.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's about God, you know

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what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And since i've been since, I've been wrapping my life

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around Him and just living in the fire with him.

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He been expanding me. Man, he may expanding me. He

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may expand my vocabulary to spending my heart. He've been

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making me think more before I react, And I'm just

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trying to, you know, just continue to be alongside him,

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just keep reaching out to him, so I can just

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preach my testimony about me going to the mental home, use.

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Speaker 2: My testimony about me with the marijuana.

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Speaker 3: And stuff like that, so people could get inspired and

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just come to him.

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Speaker 1: And just like I did, I didn't realize that you

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had a child during the camp. How old is your son?

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Speaker 2: Though, he's gonna be two months in November.

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Speaker 1: First, Okay, so when the camp, when when the fight's over,

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I guess then you can relax and spend some good

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time with him. I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel me? Yeah for sure, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of post fight, if you win and assuming

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you do take care of your business, you're gonna be

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twelve and zero. I wonder what do you see in

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store for yourself for twenty twenty five? You know, I

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know you're in a hurry to get to the big

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time fights, So the title fights. You already say you're

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the best lightweight in the world. It's an excellent division.

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Do you think it's a title eliminator in the near future,

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can it get can it be a world title shot?

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It may be a little tough getting the title fight

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just because of the guys that hold the belts at

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the present time. What is your sort of outlook on that,

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you know down the road.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm ranked number three and three sanctions and bodies.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that's one step and then all the

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guy Barranchick that's from Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: We DM, we DM.

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Speaker 3: All the time, and we talk about how it could

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make the fight happen, you know, next year.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So I'm definitely not far away from becoming the world champion.

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Like at the end of the day, just think about

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the landscape in one thirty five division.

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Speaker 2: Who else deserve a shot for a title?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying you don't deserve a shot.

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I'm just thinking, like, no.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that neither.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, like, just think about it,

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like I'm next in line for this shot with WBC.

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Well that's your core WBO I be or WBA, Like,

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I'm next in line, man, people want to see me fight.

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I sell, I sell in Arenas. You know what I'm saying,

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Like I'm next in line. You know what I'm saying,

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So expect me to become a world champion twenty twenty

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five for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Brentchick. That was the guy that sort

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of seemed to stick out like the sore thumb. I mean,

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you're not fighting Shakurt obviously, he's your you know, you

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guys are close. He's with a different promoter now. Anyway,

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Barentchik is there. Lomachenko, A lot of people think he

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may retire. If he does that, Doult would become vicant.

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I haven't looked to see your exact position in the

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idea of rankings, but I guess that might be a possibility.

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You're third, okay, and uh and Tank Davis, I mean

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he's off doing his thing. Don't think he's looking at

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because he's looking for the bigger fights. He does what

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he wants to do in terms of his pay per views.

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But you do feel like though the world time, I mean,

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you can't, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't really put that narrative out there like that. We

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all respect Tank and what he did with the sport.

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He brought a lot more eyes to.

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Speaker 2: The sport, but I'm not doing this. It's not strict fights.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's like, I don't know. I know,

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he tried to fight limy Chenko, you know what I'm saying.

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He tried to fight lemon Chenko. Lemonchenko saying, you know

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what I'm saying. But it's still like you said, stacked

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man and him going to fight a one to thirty

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pounder that he've been grow that he grew up with,

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that we just see spar and all that extra shit.

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It was just like, Okay, he doing what you want

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to do, but you're looking for the biggest fights.

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Speaker 1: My comment about Gervanta Davis was not negative. It was

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a matter of the fact that he is in a

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position where he's able. Good for him to to not

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have to fight you and still be able to put

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on big events and still be able to make a

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huge amount of money. Sure, I was trying to figure

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out where where Keishan Davis is going to get that

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title opportunity from him or no, no from you mentioned

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like Barent Chick and some of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh, just period twenty twenty five for sure. I think

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twenty twenty five for sure. Like I'm getting the belt, Guaran,

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I will say guarantee out there when a lot of

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y'all with shit nine times out to become a world champions.

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Speaker 1: Next year, well it'll be uh, it'll be definitely fun

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and interesting to watch. First, obviously, you got to take

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care of your business with Gustavo Remos on the upcoming

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fight nine November eighth. I wish you the best of

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look in that fantation. I really appreciate your time to do.

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Speaker 2: This today, Yes, sir, thank you. Matt m hm