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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want you to imagine standing right in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of a pitch black football stadium, Okay, totally dart

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<v Speaker 2>right and at the far into the field. Someone just

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<v Speaker 2>flips a switch and every single high intensity floodlight turns

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<v Speaker 2>on simultaneously. Oh wow, and they're all aimed directly into

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes like it is blinding physical pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Right that sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, someone hands you a camera and your job is

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<v Speaker 2>to take a perfectly clear, like sharply focused photograph of

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<v Speaker 2>a single firefly.

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<v Speaker 3>A firefly in front of the floodlights.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly buzzing about I don't know, one inch away from

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<v Speaker 2>the glass of one of those lights.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, I mean, that's literally impossible, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to capture the faint, delicate glow of this

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<v Speaker 2>tiny bug through this actual wall of light that is

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<v Speaker 2>actively overwhelming your retinas and your cameras sensors, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That right there is exactly why we don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>we're alone in the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet exactly that impossible blinding task is the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>modern astronomy. We've been staring at the night sky for millennia,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, asking if there's life out there, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>effectively just staring straight into those flood lights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fireflies are out there, but we just can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, right, And that's really what we're getting into today

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<v Speaker 2>because the transition happening right now in astronomy is just

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<v Speaker 2>it's wild. Wondering about those fireflies is no longer enough.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not. I mean, for most of human history,

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<v Speaker 3>asking you know, are we alone? That was a question

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<v Speaker 3>strictly for philosopher.

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<v Speaker 2>Or theologians or science fiction writers.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly you'd sit around a campfire, look up and just guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But the era of guessing is basically over, which is

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<v Speaker 3>so exciting. It really is, that profound existential question has

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<v Speaker 3>officially been translated into an engineering problem.

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<v Speaker 2>An engineering problem. I love that, right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're no longer debating whether life might exist. We are

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<v Speaker 3>physically building the machines to filter out those floodlights and

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<v Speaker 3>get a definitive, undeniable photograph of the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means we really need to understand the sheer brutal

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<v Speaker 2>physics standing in our way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the physics are not very forgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>No they aren't. Because if we want to find life,

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<v Speaker 2>astrobiologists are very clear that we need to look for

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<v Speaker 2>planets in the habitable zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, the Goldilock zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, not too hot, not too cold, just right for

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<v Speaker 2>liquid water. But when you actually break down the mechanics

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<v Speaker 2>of a solar system, that requirement the habitable zone is

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<v Speaker 2>the exact thing making this almost impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. To understand the obstacle, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>look at the geometry of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, break that down for us.

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<v Speaker 3>So if a planet is too far from its host star,

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<v Speaker 3>any water on the surface just freezes solid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you get an ice ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and biochemistry, as we understand it just grinds to

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<v Speaker 3>a halt. But if it orbits too close, the stellar

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<v Speaker 3>radiation boils the water away into vapor and.

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<v Speaker 2>The atmosphere just gets stripped away exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You're left with a scorched rock. So the habitable zone

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<v Speaker 3>is this really narrow? Specific orbital band where a rocky

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<v Speaker 3>planet can actually maintain liquid water on its surface.

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<v Speaker 2>But because it's so narrow and so close to the star.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because it's relatively close, any planet inside that band

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<v Speaker 3>is completely engulfed by the star's glare from our vantage point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, light years away.

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<v Speaker 2>So proximity is the prerequisite for life, but it's also

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate barrier to us seeing it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. And you have to factor in the

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<v Speaker 3>scale of brightness too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, the brightness scale is just absurd.

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<v Speaker 3>It's incomprehensible. A host star like something similar to our Sun,

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<v Speaker 3>is typically ten billion times brighter than the earth like

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<v Speaker 2>Ten billion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the star is a raging nuclear furnace right,

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<v Speaker 3>constant fusion, and the planet is just rock exactly. The

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<v Speaker 3>planet produces zero visible light of its own. It only

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<v Speaker 3>reflects a microscoptic fraction of the star's light back out.

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<v Speaker 2>Into space, which is its albedo right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Albido Earth, for example, reflects roughly thirty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>It, mostly from like clouds and ice and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff, mostly clouds and ice. Yeah, So you are looking

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<v Speaker 3>for an object that is ten billion times dimmer than

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<v Speaker 3>the nuclear fireball sitting right next to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten billion to one. I mean, the human brain literally

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<v Speaker 2>cannot comprehend a ratio like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it can't.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand one hundred to one, maybe one thousand to one,

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<v Speaker 2>but ten billion to one is a number so vast

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<v Speaker 2>it just registers as a wall of noise.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the realm of optical engineering, that ratio is

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<v Speaker 3>your ultimate adversary.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the sensors just get overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when you point a highly sensitive space telescope at

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<v Speaker 3>a d solar system, you are trying to collect these

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly rare, precious photons bouncing.

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<v Speaker 2>Off that tiny planet, the firefly.

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<v Speaker 3>Firefly, But those few planetary photons are traveling alongside an

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<v Speaker 3>absolute tsunami of stellar.

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<v Speaker 2>Photons, just a wave of light.

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<v Speaker 3>And when that wave hits the telescope sensors, the star's

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<v Speaker 3>light instantly saturates the image, it blows out the exposure,

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<v Speaker 3>creates massive lens flares, and just buries the planet in

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<v Speaker 3>digital noise.

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<v Speaker 2>See. I look at a problem like that, and my

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<v Speaker 2>brain instantly searches for a brute force, low tech solution,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what like if I'm driving down the highway and

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<v Speaker 2>the sun is blinding me. I just reach up and

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<v Speaker 2>pull down the sun visor, right. Or if I'm outside

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<v Speaker 2>trying to watch an airplane fly near the sun, I

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<v Speaker 2>just hold my thumb up block the sun, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>I can see the plane. A physical block exactly. We

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly where the star is in the sky. We

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<v Speaker 2>have these multi billion dollars space telescopes. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 2>just engineer a highly precise mechanical thumb to block the starlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny you say that, because that is the

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<v Speaker 3>most intuitive approach, and it's actually the foundational technology we've

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<v Speaker 3>used for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, really, we do have a mechanical thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>We do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called a coronagraph. The coronagraph, Okay, yeah, the concept

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<v Speaker 3>was actually invented way back in the nineteen thirties by

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<v Speaker 3>a French astronomer named Bernard Leo.

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<v Speaker 2>In the thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, he wanted to study our sun's corona, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's outer atmosphere. But the main disc of the Sun

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<v Speaker 3>was just too bright, so he just blocked it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>He put a physical mask, just a tiny, precisely machine

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<v Speaker 3>opaque disc inside his telescope directly in the focal plane

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<v Speaker 3>where the image of the sun forms.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he basically created a tiny artificial solar eclipse

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<v Speaker 2>inside the instrument itself.

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<v Speaker 3>You nailed it. That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then problem solved. We just need to put a

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<v Speaker 2>coronagraph in a space telescope, block the distant star and

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<v Speaker 2>photograph the planet's orbiting it. Easy.

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<v Speaker 3>If only it were that easy. The physics of light

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<v Speaker 3>simply do not allow it.

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<v Speaker 2>To work perfect because it's light, and light is complicated. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If light behaved entirely like a stream of tiny, independent

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<v Speaker 3>bullets moving in perfectly straight lines, a physical block would

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<v Speaker 3>work flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 2>The bullets hit the mask and stop, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The bullets that miss the mask pass through to the camera. Perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>But light doesn't just act like a particle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a wave.

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<v Speaker 3>It propagates as a wave, and waves do incredibly frustrating

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<v Speaker 3>things when they encounter an obstacle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, they bend. I remember learning this in high

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<v Speaker 2>school physics. Yeah, diffraction, Right. If a wave hits a barrier,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't just cut off in a clean straight line exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about ocean waves rolling into a harbor and hitting

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<v Speaker 3>a concrete breakwater the water doesn't just stop perfectly behind

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<v Speaker 3>the wall. The waves curl, they wrap around the edges

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<v Speaker 3>of the concrete, and they create these new complex ripple

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<v Speaker 3>patterns in the supposedly calm water behind the barrier.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the water still gets turbulent back there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's diffraction. So when the star light enters the telescope

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<v Speaker 3>and hits the edge of that physical coronagraph mask, the

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<v Speaker 3>light waves bend right around the edge of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so they bleed into the exact dark zone

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<v Speaker 2>where we're desperately trying to find.

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<v Speaker 3>The planet exactly, Even with a physical shield perfectly in place,

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<v Speaker 3>the star's light is sneaking around the edges.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>And the crazy part is diffraction is only half the battle.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other, arguably more devastating problem comes from the telescope itself,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically the microscopic imperfections and the telescope's optics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, let me push back on that for a second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when we talk about modern space telescopes, we are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the most meticulously engineered, flawlessly polished surfaces ever created

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<v Speaker 2>by humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they are incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean the mirrors on. These things take years

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<v Speaker 2>to grind and polish. They're tested in vacuum chambers. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you telling me they still have flaws?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the concept of flawless changes depending on the scale

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair point.

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<v Speaker 3>When optical engineers polish a primary mirror for a space telescope,

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<v Speaker 3>they are smoothing the surface down to the nanimeter level.

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<v Speaker 3>And a nanometer is one billionth of a meter. It's

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<v Speaker 3>roughly the width of a few atoms.

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<v Speaker 2>So practically perfect to the human eye.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, to almost any standard of measurement, these mirrors are perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are not mathematically perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Because nothing is right.

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<v Speaker 3>There will always be residual surfacers, like a subnanometer bump here,

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<v Speaker 3>a microscopic dip there.

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<v Speaker 2>A bump the size of a molecule. That actually matters.

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<v Speaker 3>It matters massively. When the wavefront of light from the

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<v Speaker 3>star hits that primary mirror, it should ideally reflect uniformly,

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<v Speaker 3>But when it hits that sub nanimeter bump.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets thrown off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that tiny fraction of the light wave is delayed

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<v Speaker 3>or advanced by just a fraction of a wavelength, so

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<v Speaker 3>it scatters. Oh I see, and this scattered light bounces

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<v Speaker 3>through the rest of the telescope, so when it reaches

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<v Speaker 3>the final image, it doesn't look like a smooth wash

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<v Speaker 3>of light.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it look like?

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<v Speaker 3>It forms this chaotic, complex pattern of bright and dark spots.

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<v Speaker 3>We call them specklesckls. Yeah, and these speckles dance all

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<v Speaker 3>around the coronagraph, spilling directly into the area where the

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<v Speaker 3>exoplanet should be.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds like an absolute nightmare scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an engineer's worst nightmare. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But surely the coronograph catches most of it, right, Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hit me with the math.

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<v Speaker 3>So this scenario comes directly from Steve and Eichenberry.

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<v Speaker 2>The professor at the University of Central Florida, Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, He's a principal investigator specializing and tackling this exact problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's assume your engineers are absolute geniuses.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok, geniuses, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>The coronagraph and the mirrors are so incredibly well designed

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<v Speaker 3>that they successfully block ninety nine point nine nine nine

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if an engineer tells me a system operates

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<v Speaker 2>at ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent efficiency,

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a total, absolute victory.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a triumph until you remember the baseline.

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<v Speaker 2>The baseline. Ooh, the star is ten billion times brighter exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So you let one part in a million of that

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<v Speaker 3>starlight leak through. Ten billion divided by one million is

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten thousand. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the leaked starlight, that microscopic one in a million

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<v Speaker 3>error caused by diffraction and atomic scale bumps, is still

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand times brighter than the faint exoplanet you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to photograph.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're still completely blinded.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely. Your planet is buried under a mountain of scattered light.

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<v Speaker 3>And the worst part is the speckles look exactly like planets.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and there are thousands of them in the

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<v Speaker 3>image I can. Barry is very blunt about this reality.

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<v Speaker 3>His exact words regarding this math are, quote, You're doomed.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doomed. That is, I mean, we really are fighting

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<v Speaker 2>a war on two impossible fronts here, we really are.

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<v Speaker 2>On the macroscale, you have a nuclear fireball that is

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the microscale, you have a physical shield

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<v Speaker 2>that leaks because light waves refuse to travel in straight lines,

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<v Speaker 2>and your mirror has a bump on it smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>a strand of DNA.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>How on earth do you fix a leak you can't

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you accept that you cannot build a flawless

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<v Speaker 3>physical shield and you can't polish a mirror to mathematical.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfection, which we clearly can't, right, then.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to change your entire approach. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what do you do instead?

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<v Speaker 3>You must develop a dynamic system, something that can measure

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<v Speaker 3>the leaked light and correct it in real time, actively

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<v Speaker 3>smoothing out the wavefront before the final picture is taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Active correction Okay, I know. Ground based telescopes use something

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<v Speaker 2>because the atmosphere is turbulent, it makes stars twinkle, so

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<v Speaker 2>they use special mirrors that change shape rapidly to cancel

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<v Speaker 2>out the twinkling spot on. But space telescopes don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with the atmosphere. They do, however, have these

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<v Speaker 2>microscopic mirror bumps and thermal shifts we just talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't we already put adaptive optics on space telescopes to

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<v Speaker 3>We do. We use deformable mirrors in modern space telescope designs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how does a deformable mirror work.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, it has hundreds or even thousands of tiny actuators

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<v Speaker 3>pushing and pulling on the back of a very thin sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>Of blasts like little pistons, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And by changing the shape of the mirror by just

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<v Speaker 3>a few nanometers, you can counteract those bumps on the

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<v Speaker 3>primary mirror and flatten the wavefront of light.

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<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant, so that solves it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here is the critical flaw. A deformable mirror is

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<v Speaker 3>useless if it doesn't know exactly what to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it needs instructions.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It needs a sensor to tell it where the

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<v Speaker 3>light is distorted. It needs to know where the leaks are.

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<v Speaker 3>And this brings us to one of the most maddening

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<v Speaker 3>architectural problems in modern astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm braced. What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Non common path aberration.

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<v Speaker 2>Con common path aberrations. Okay, we need to break that

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<v Speaker 2>down because it sounds like the crux of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole failure it really is. Let's trace the journey of

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<v Speaker 3>a single photon through a space telescope.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Following the photon.

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<v Speaker 3>The light enters the aperture, hits the giant primary mirror,

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<v Speaker 3>bounces to a smaller secondary mirror, and makes its way

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<v Speaker 3>deep into the optical.

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<v Speaker 2>Assembly, cloutsing through the machine.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Eventually the light hits a beam splitter. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of glass that lets some light pass through

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<v Speaker 3>while reflecting the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it forks the road exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>In traditional telescope architectures, a small percentage of the light

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<v Speaker 3>is split off here and sent to a wayfront sensor.

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<v Speaker 2>And that sensor is the thing checking for air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this sensor analyzes the light, detects any distortions caused

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<v Speaker 3>by the primary mirror and sends a signal to the

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the sensor checks the light, diagnoses the microscopic bumps,

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<v Speaker 2>and tells the system to correct itself. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>it should work perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is what happens to the rest of the light.

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<v Speaker 2>The light that didn't go to the sensor.

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<v Speaker 3>Right the main beam of light, the science beam. It

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<v Speaker 3>continues past the beam splitter, passes through the coronagraph, and

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<v Speaker 3>travels through a final series of lenses and mirrors before

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<v Speaker 3>it finally hits the focal plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And the focal plane is where the actual camera is, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The main science camera, where the photograph is taken. That

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<v Speaker 3>final stretch of the journey, the physical space between where

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<v Speaker 3>the sensor split off and where the camera sits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the non common path exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the sensor is on one path and the camera

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<v Speaker 3>taking the picture is on a completely different path.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't sharing the same road anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, and in the freezing vacuum of space, things are

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<v Speaker 3>never entirely static. A telescope experiences these tiny thermal fluctuations

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<v Speaker 3>as it moves in and out of the sun's shadow, So.

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<v Speaker 2>The metal is expanding and contracting.

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<v Speaker 3>Just by fractions of a millimeter. But yes, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have spinning reaction wheels that keep the spacecraft pointed, which

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<v Speaker 3>create microscopic.

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<v Speaker 2>Vibrations, and all of that adds up.

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<v Speaker 3>All of these environmental factors introduce new distortions, new aberrations

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<v Speaker 3>into the light as it travels through that final non

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<v Speaker 2>But the sensor has already done its job. It checked

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<v Speaker 2>the light way back at the beam splitter. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely no idea what happens to the light during

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<v Speaker 2>that final stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>It is entirely blind to it. Steve and Eikenberry uses

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<v Speaker 3>this brilliant analogy to explain the structural blind spot. He

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<v Speaker 3>calls it the dirty bedroom problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The dirty bedroom. I like that. Explain that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Imagine you own a beautiful house. Yeah, and your

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<v Speaker 2>Clean, Okay, pristine white carpet exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not want a single speck of dust on

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<v Speaker 3>that white carpet. So you install a highly advanced security

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<v Speaker 3>camera in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>Leading up to the bedroom to monitor the path.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You monitor every person who walks down that hallway.

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<v Speaker 3>You check their shoes, you make sure they wipe their feet.

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<v Speaker 3>You are rigorously monitoring the approach, but you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a camera inside the bedroom itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, So you watch them walk down the hall perfectly clean,

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<v Speaker 2>but right at the doorway they step in a microscopic

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<v Speaker 2>puddle of mud.

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<v Speaker 3>Or dust falls off their jacket as they cross the threshold.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And because you're only looking at the hallway, you

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<v Speaker 2>have absolutely no idea they're tracking dirt all over your

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<v Speaker 2>pristine white carpet until it's too late. The final destination

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<v Speaker 2>is unmonitored.

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<v Speaker 3>The unmonitored bedroom is the non common path. The wavefront

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<v Speaker 3>sensor checked the light early on, but the light picked

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<v Speaker 3>up optical dirt aberrations in the final few inches of

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and because those aberrations go uncorrected, they just ruin

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<v Speaker 2>the final image.

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<v Speaker 3>The speckles bloom, the contrast is destroyed, and the ex

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<v Speaker 3>planet vanishes.

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<v Speaker 2>So the obvious, purely logical solution here is just put

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<v Speaker 2>a camera in the bedroom. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds so simple.

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<v Speaker 2>If the problem is that we aren't looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>final destination, why don't we just monitor the light at

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<v Speaker 2>the exact spot where the final picture is taken. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is that so difficult?

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<v Speaker 3>It is intensely difficult because of the fundamental rules of

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<v Speaker 3>quantum mechanics and something called photon starvation.

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<v Speaker 2>Photon starvation meaning there's just not enough light.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when you are trying to photograph an exoplanet, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not dealing with a flood of light. You might be

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<v Speaker 3>collecting only a few individual photons from that planet every minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, just a trickle.

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredibly faint, delicate information. If you try to

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<v Speaker 3>place a sensor at the focal plane to measure the

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<v Speaker 3>wave properties of the light, well, traditional sensors require you

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<v Speaker 3>to absorb or manipulate that light to.

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<v Speaker 2>Measure it, And if you measure it, you change it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>By measuring it, you alter it, you degrade or completely

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<v Speaker 3>destroy or are the very planetary photons you just spent

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<v Speaker 3>billions of dollars trying to collect.

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<v Speaker 2>So you need a way to look into the bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>without turning on the lights and ruining the long exposure photograph.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the paradox. You have to measure the wave without

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<v Speaker 3>collapsing the delicate signal.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels physically impossible. But I'm guessing this is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where the narrative shifts from the agonizing problem to the

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<v Speaker 2>actual technology being built to solve it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is this is where we introduce the system designed

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<v Speaker 3>to look directly into that dirty bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear it, enter, peeps, peeps, peepss. I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>astronomy has a long, proud history of twisting words to

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<v Speaker 2>make catchy acronyms. What does this one stand for?

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<v Speaker 3>It stands for the Photonics Enabled Exoplanet Spectroscopic System.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a malful it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a research initiative developed by a consortium of scientists

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<v Speaker 3>heavily anchored at the University of Central Flora's College of

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<v Speaker 3>Optics and Photonics, which is known as cr EEL.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does page actually do?

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<v Speaker 3>Peeps? Was conceived to solve the dirty bedroom problem? Definitively.

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<v Speaker 3>Its entire purpose is to perform wavefront sensing directly at

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<v Speaker 3>the telescope's focal plane, right at the finish line. Right

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<v Speaker 3>at the finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Line, so it monitors the shape and quality of the

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<v Speaker 2>light waves at the exact location where the scientific camera

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<v Speaker 2>sits exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It monitors the complete unabridged optical pathway. There is no

435
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<v Speaker 3>non common path anymore because the sensor and the science

436
00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.960
<v Speaker 3>camera are effectively sharing the same physical destination.

437
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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. So the system sees the dirt in the

438
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<v Speaker 2>bedroom in real time.

439
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it measures those microscopic distortions that emerge after the coronagraph,

440
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<v Speaker 3>and it feeds that data back to the deformable mirrors

441
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<v Speaker 3>at thousands of times per.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Second, actively patching the leaks.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, before the speckles can form and overwhelm the faint

444
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<v Speaker 3>signal of the planet.

445
00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.359
<v Speaker 2>But wait, you just told me a minute ago that

446
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<v Speaker 2>putting a sensor at the focal plane would destroy those

447
00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>faint planetary photons. I did. So, how does PEPE measure

448
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<v Speaker 2>the light without ruining the picture? This is where the

449
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<v Speaker 2>cross disciplinary nature of this project comes in, isn't it,

450
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<v Speaker 2>Because they aren't just using traditional telescope mirrors anymore.

451
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<v Speaker 3>This is the crux of the revolution right here. PEEPS

452
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<v Speaker 3>is the bleeding edge of a rapidly growing, highly specialized

453
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<v Speaker 3>field called astrophotonics. Astrophotonics, Yeah, to solve an astronomical problem,

454
00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.200
<v Speaker 3>they actually had to abandon traditional astronomy and look to

455
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<v Speaker 3>a completely different industry, which one global telecommunications.

456
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<v Speaker 2>All communications, as in.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Like the Internet, exactly as in the Internet. For the

458
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<v Speaker 3>last fifty years, traditional astronomy has been obsessed with building

459
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<v Speaker 3>bigger glass mirrors and larger bucket like digital detectors to

460
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<v Speaker 3>just catch as many photons as possible, kickers better, right,

461
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<v Speaker 3>But over in the telecom industry, engineers were fighting a

462
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<v Speaker 3>completely different war. They were trying to figure out how

463
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<v Speaker 3>to transmit massive amounts of data phone calls, internet traffic,

464
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<v Speaker 3>streaming video across oceans using lights.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, fiber optic cables.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they developed incredibly sophisticated fiber optics. They learned how

467
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<v Speaker 3>to route light through hair thin strands of glass, how

468
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<v Speaker 3>to split it, combine it, and manipulate its phase with

469
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<v Speaker 3>virtually zero loss of information.

470
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<v Speaker 2>They basically master the absolute control of light on a

471
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<v Speaker 2>microscopic scale.

472
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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. Astrophotonics is the realization that if we

473
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<v Speaker 3>take these highly advanced, perfectly refined light manipulating technologies from

474
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<v Speaker 3>the telecong world and we plug them into the focal

475
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<v Speaker 3>plane of a space telescope.

476
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<v Speaker 2>We can do things normal mirrors can't.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, We can perform optical feats that traditional mirrors and

478
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<v Speaker 3>lenses are physically incapable of doing.

479
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<v Speaker 2>It's like taking the engine management system from a Formula

480
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<v Speaker 2>one race car and installing it into a deep sea submarine.

481
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<v Speaker 3>I love that analogy.

482
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<v Speaker 2>You're taking high performance engineering from one environment and using

483
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<v Speaker 2>it to conquer it completely different frontier, and doing.

484
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<v Speaker 3>That requires a very specific type of scientific collaboration. You

485
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<v Speaker 3>can't just have astronomers working on this. You need people

486
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<v Speaker 3>who really understand the deep physics of glass fibers.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Which is the team they've built, right.

488
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<v Speaker 3>That's why the brain trust behind PPS is so unique.

489
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<v Speaker 3>You have Steven Eichenberry leading the astronomical application, but he's

490
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<v Speaker 3>working alongside a team of hardcore photonics experts at UCF.

491
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<v Speaker 2>People who have spent their lives on fiber optics.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people like Rodrigo A. Mescua Correa, Miguel Bondres, and

493
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<v Speaker 3>Jose Enrique Antonio Lopez. Their foundational career long expertise in

494
00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:27.160
<v Speaker 3>fiber optics is the engine making this whole thing possible.

495
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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

496
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<v Speaker 3>And you also have graduate students like Genevieve Marquis and

497
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<v Speaker 3>Eliza fernandoquin Reyes who are literally in the clean rooms

498
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<v Speaker 3>fabricating these microscopic glass devices by hand.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, fabricating them by hand. It's a massive merging of

500
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<v Speaker 2>disciplines and it's a global effort too. Right. I know

501
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<v Speaker 2>UCF is partnering with the University of California, Santa Cruz

502
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<v Speaker 2>and the Space Telescope Science Institute, right.

503
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<v Speaker 3>The organization that operates the Hubble and James Webb telescopes.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

505
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<v Speaker 3>They're also working with international partners, most notably the University

506
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<v Speaker 3>of Sydney in Australia. Why Sydney, Well, the University of

507
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<v Speaker 3>Sydney connection is critical because, as I Canberry points out,

508
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<v Speaker 3>there are really only two major hubs in the entire

509
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<v Speaker 3>world doing cutting edge work on the specific photonic technology

510
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<v Speaker 3>at the heart of p plus.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Let me guess UCF.

512
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<v Speaker 3>And Sydney exactly. This is not off the shelf technology.

513
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<v Speaker 3>This is true frontier science.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Which brings me to the physical hardware.

515
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get into it.

516
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<v Speaker 2>We've established the problem the dirty bedroom, we've established the

517
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>solution PPS at the focal plane, and we know they're

518
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<v Speaker 2>using telecom fiber optics to do it. But what is

519
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<v Speaker 2>the actual physical device doing the work? Like if I

520
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<v Speaker 2>walk into the creol lab right now, what is the

521
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 2>secret weapon they're building to capture this light and fix

522
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<v Speaker 2>the leaks without destroying the planet's image.

523
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<v Speaker 3>The technological marvel at the absolute center of this entire

524
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<v Speaker 3>endeavor is a device called a photonic lantern.

525
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<v Speaker 2>A photonic lantern, yes, I mean that sounds like an

526
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 2>artifact from a fantasy novel. Yeah, not a piece of

527
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<v Speaker 2>space hardware. What physically is a photonic lantern?

528
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.640
<v Speaker 3>To really appreciate the photonic lantern, you first have to

529
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<v Speaker 3>understand the tragic flaw of the digital cameras we currently

530
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<v Speaker 3>use on telescopes.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's wrong with our current cameras.

532
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<v Speaker 3>When a standard digital sensor, whether it's in your smartphone,

533
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<v Speaker 3>a DSLR, or the James Web Space telescope, takes a picture,

534
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<v Speaker 3>it acts like an array of incredibly tiny buckets. Yeah,

535
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<v Speaker 3>each pixel is a bucket. When light hits the sensor,

536
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<v Speaker 3>the bucket measures how many photons fell into it. It

537
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<v Speaker 3>measures the intensity the brightness a.

538
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<v Speaker 2>Bucket of photons, So the more photons that land, the

539
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<v Speaker 2>brighter that specific pixel is on the final image.

540
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. But light is not just a collection of particles

541
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<v Speaker 3>dropping into a bucket. It is an oscillating electromagnetic wave.

542
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, the wave particle duality.

543
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<v Speaker 3>Right, It has peaks and it has valleys. It has

544
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<v Speaker 3>a property called phase, which tells you exactly where the

545
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<v Speaker 3>wave is in its oscillation cycle at any given moment

546
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<v Speaker 3>in space and time. Okay, phase, But traditional pixel detectors

547
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<v Speaker 3>are what we call square a lot detectors. They are

548
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<v Speaker 3>physically incapable of measuring phase, so they just ignore it.

549
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<v Speaker 3>The moment the light hits the bucket, the phase information

550
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<v Speaker 3>is destroyed. All the intricate, detailed data carried by the

551
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 3>geometry of the wave itself is permanently wiped out, and

552
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 3>you are left only with a brute force measurement of

553
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<v Speaker 3>total energy.

554
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<v Speaker 2>Let me try to wrap an analogy around this, because

555
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>throwing away the phase of a light wave feels like

556
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<v Speaker 2>a catastrophic loss of information.

557
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It really is.

558
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Let's imagine you're trying to study a massive symphony orchestra. Yeah,

559
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<v Speaker 2>playing this really complex piece of classical music using a

560
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<v Speaker 2>traditional telescope camera is like taking a silent, black and

561
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<v Speaker 2>white photograph of the orchestra from the balcony.

562
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see where you're going with this, right.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Like you can see the violins, the cellos the brass section.

564
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<v Speaker 2>You know they're playing music because you can see the

565
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<v Speaker 2>bows moving, but you cannot hear the music.

566
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<v Speaker 3>You just have the visual intensity.

567
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Of the scene exactly. You get the outline, but you

568
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<v Speaker 2>completely lose the intricate overlapping waves of sound.

569
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<v Speaker 3>That is incredibly accurate way to frame the loss of data.

570
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>You know energy is present, but you have no idea

571
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 3>how that energy is structured.

572
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>So if a traditional telescope is a black and white

573
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<v Speaker 2>photograph for the orchestra, what does the photonic lantern do?

574
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<v Speaker 3>A photonic lantern is like walking down to the stage

575
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 3>and handing an individual, highly sensitive microphone to every single

576
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<v Speaker 3>musician in that orchestra.

577
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, It.

578
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Records the isolated multi track audio of every single instrument.

579
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 3>It captures the actual phase and frequency of the sound waves.

580
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>So when you use a photonic lantern on a telescope,

581
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 3>you aren't just catching photons in a bucket. You are

582
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<v Speaker 3>mapping the exact shape and phase of the starlight as

583
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 3>it hits the focal plane.

584
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>But physically, how does a piece of glass act as

585
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<v Speaker 2>a microphone for light waves? Like? What does this thing

586
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>actually look like?

587
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Physically? It is a masterpiece of precision glass working. The

588
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 3>process starts with several single mode optical fibers.

589
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Single mode.

590
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a single mode fiber is an incredibly thin strand

591
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>of glass. The core is only a few microns across,

592
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 3>thinner than a human hair.

593
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 2>That iskiny.

594
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Because it's so narrow, light can only travel through it

595
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 3>in one specific path or mode. It forces the light

596
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 3>to behave perfectly locking in its phase.

597
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you have these ultra thin, perfectly disciplined glass hairs.

598
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. You take a bundle of these single mode fibers,

599
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe a few dozen of them, and you group them

600
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<v Speaker 3>tightly together inside a larger glass tube.

601
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, bundled up.

602
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Then you place this bundle into a specialized machine that carefully,

603
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 3>meticulously heats the glass until it softens. And then what

604
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 3>as it heats, The machine slowly pulls and stretches the glass,

605
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.079
<v Speaker 3>tapering it down. As it tapers, the individual fibers melt

606
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<v Speaker 3>and merge together into one larger multi mode fiber at

607
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<v Speaker 3>the front end.

608
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so it looks like a microscopic glass funnel. Yes,

609
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<v Speaker 2>you have a wide opening at the front that tapers down,

610
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 2>splitting into dozens of tiny, individual hair like fibers.

611
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<v Speaker 3>At the back exactly like a funny Now, think about

612
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the messy, distorted starlight. The speckles caused by those microscopic

613
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>bumps on the telescope.

614
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Mirrors the dirt in the bedroom.

615
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 3>The dirt. When that chaotic light enters the wide multi

616
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>mode end of the lantern, it's a tangled mess of

617
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 3>overlapping waves. But as the light travels down the narrowing funnel,

618
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 3>thermodynamics and wave physics take over the device forces that

619
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>complex light to slowly separate and transition into the individual

620
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>single mode fibers at the back end.

621
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Wait, let me stop you there. If you're taking this

622
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>incredibly faint, precious light from an exoplanet, light that traveled

623
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 2>for dozens of light years, and you're literally splitting it

624
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 2>up into a bunch of tiny, individual fiber optic threads, yeah,

625
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't you just diluting the light? If the planet is

626
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 2>already impossibly dim, how does spreading its light even thinner

627
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 2>help us see it better? Aren't you making the problem worse?

628
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>That is the exact counterintuitive hurdle that astrophotonics has to overcome.

629
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 3>It totally feels like you're diluting the signal, but you

630
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 3>aren't actually losing photons, you are organizing them.

631
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Organizing them.

632
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the transition inside the photonic lantern is what physicists

633
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 3>call an adiabatic transition. Because the tapering is so gradual

634
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and so perfectly smooth, no information is lost to the environment.

635
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>The total energy is completely preserved.

636
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, But more.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Importantly, the phase information, the exact shape of the incoming

638
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>wave is mathematically mapped across the different fibers, so it

639
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>untangles the mess exactly the lantern untangles it. It separates

640
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the complex incoming starlight into individual, clean optical channels, preserving

641
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 3>all the phase data that a traditional camera would have

642
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 3>instantly destroyed.

643
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 2>So we went from just catching water in a flat

644
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 2>bucket where all the ripples smash into each other and disappear.

645
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>To using a funnel that elegantly separates every single ripple

646
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>so we can measure exactly how the wave is moving. Yes,

647
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 3>the data that conventional systems just throw in the trash

648
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 3>the foot photonic lantern elegantly preserves that.

649
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<v Speaker 2>Is deeply fascinating, but it naturally forces the next question,

650
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>which is now that we have all this extra wave

651
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and phase information preserved in these tiny glass fibers. Yeah,

652
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>what do we actually do with it? Ah? Like, how

653
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<v Speaker 2>does knowing the phase of the light help us see

654
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>an alien planet hidden in the glare?

655
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 3>This is where we bring in the final piece of

656
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the puzzle. Having this near incredibly detailed phase data unlocks

657
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 3>a radically different approach to processing astronomical images. Different how

658
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 3>it allows researchers to move into a highly advanced computational

659
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>realm known as quantum inspired imaging.

660
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Quantum inspired imaging, we are stacking some very heavy scientific

661
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>concepts today.

662
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 3>We really are.

663
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Fiber optics, diffraction and now quantum inspired algorithms. How does

664
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<v Speaker 2>this actually filter out the starlight?

665
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 3>The core concept relies on wave interference. Because the photonic

666
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>lantern preserved the phase information of the light, the computer

667
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 3>now knows exactly how the starlight waves are behaving.

668
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>It knows the exact exact geometry of the wave right.

669
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 3>It knows where the peaks are and where the valleys are.

670
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 3>And once you know the exact shape of a wave,

671
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 3>you can mathematically manipulate it.

672
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>You can cancel it out like noise canceling headphones.

673
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Exactly like noise canceling headphones. How do those headphones work

674
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 3>on an airplane.

675
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>They have a small microphone that listens to the low

676
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 2>frequency rumble of the chat engines.

677
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Right right, and a computer chip inside the headphones analyzes

678
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 3>the series of that sound wave, and then a speaker

679
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 3>generally gets a new sound wave that is the exact opposite.

680
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<v Speaker 2>Phase the mirror image or the negative of the engine noise. Yes.

681
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 3>And when the peak of the engine noise aligns with

682
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the valley of the headphone noise, the two waves experience

683
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 3>destructive interference.

684
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>They physically cancel each other out, leaving you in silence.

685
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 3>And we are doing that with light.

686
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>We are doing that with light that is blowing my mind.

687
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 3>We're doing it digitally with quantum inspired imaging. Because we

688
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 3>have the isolated phase information of the leaped starlight recovered

689
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>by the photonic lantern, we can use advanced algorithms to

690
00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>mathematically process the data.

691
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>So you generate the anti glare.

692
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>We calculate the exact inverse of the star's speckle pattern,

693
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 3>and digitally applied destructive interference, we essentially cancel out the

694
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<v Speaker 3>complex glare of the star.

695
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

696
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>We strip away the ten thousand times brighter noise layer

697
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 3>by mathematical layer until the only thing left in the

698
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<v Speaker 3>data is the incredibly faint hidden signal of the exoplanet

699
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 3>that was buried underneath it all.

700
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<v Speaker 2>If we step back and just look at the entire

701
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<v Speaker 2>architecture of this solution, it is a breath taking sequence

702
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<v Speaker 2>of specialized engineering.

703
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 3>It's an absolute gauntlet.

704
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 2>It really is a gauntlet that the light has to run. First,

705
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the light enters the telescope and you use the physical

706
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>coronograph mask to block out ninety nine point nine nine

707
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 2>nine nine percent of the main glare step one. Yeah.

708
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Then to handle the one in a million leak caused

709
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>by diffraction and atomic mirror bumps, you use the PPS system.

710
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Right looking into the dirty bedroom.

711
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.359
<v Speaker 2>You look right into the dirty bedroom at the focal plane,

712
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>feed that messy leath light into the wide end of

713
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the photonic.

714
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Lantern, which acts as an optical funnel, untangling the overlapping

715
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 3>waves into pristine single mode fibers while preserving the phase.

716
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And finally you take that phase data, feed it into

717
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a computer, and run quantum inspired algorithms to digitally cancel

718
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>out the last remaining bits of starlight via destructive interference.

719
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 3>That's the entire process, from start to finish, and if

720
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the system works as engineered, what you were left with

721
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 3>is a clean, definitive stream of photons belonging entirely to

722
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 3>a potentially habitable world.

723
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 2>You have successfully conquered the ten billion to one problem.

724
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>You've beaten the floodlights.

725
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>This all sounds incredibly futuristic. I mean, we're talking about

726
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 2>manipulating the phase of light in microscopic glass funnels to

727
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>digitally cancel out the glare of a star trillions of

728
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 2>miles away.

729
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like sci fi.

730
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>But what grounds this entire conversation is the timeline. This

731
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>is in science fiction slated for the year twenty three hundred,

732
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>is it not at all? We are talking about prototype

733
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>being built and tested right now today.

734
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 3>That is what makes this research so urgent. The PEEPS

735
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 3>project is not just theoretical math on a chalkboard in

736
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 3>a university basement somewhere. No, they are currently in the

737
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 3>middle of a focused, heavily funded, three year effort. If

738
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 3>you walk into the CREO laboratories that UCF right now,

739
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 3>you will see graduate students actively fabricating these photonic lantern.

740
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Systems, actually building them.

741
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're placing them on optical benches running lasers through them,

742
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 3>inducing artificial aberrations and proving that the phase recovery and

743
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 3>destructive interference work in the real world.

744
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And it is moving beyond the sterile environment of a

745
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>laboratory cleanroom too.

746
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

747
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, they were actually putting this hardware on real telescopes

748
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 2>dealing with real starlight.

749
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, versions of this technology have already transitioned out of

750
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>the lab through collaborations with groups like the Air Force

751
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Research Laboratory and various international partners. They've deployed early prototypes

752
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 3>on actual mountaintop telescope in Hawaii.

753
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So they're battle testing it.

754
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 3>They are battle testing the glass against the real atmosphere,

755
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 3>real thermal fluctuations, and real stellar photons. They are proving

756
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 3>that the dirty bedroom problem can be solved in the field.

757
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 2>But a mountaintop in Hawaii is just a proving ground.

758
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 2>The ultimate goal, the true finish line for all of

759
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.119
<v Speaker 2>this astrophotonic development, is getting this technology integrated into something

760
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 2>much much bigger, the Holy Grail. We are looking toward

761
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the next great leap in space based astronomy.

762
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>We are everything we've discussed today that coronagraphs, the lanterns,

763
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 3>the quantum imaging is laying the critical groundwork for NASA's

764
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 3>proposed flagship mission.

765
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>The Habitable World's Observatory HWO.

766
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 3>The Habitable World's Observatory. They didn't mince words with that acronym.

767
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 3>It tells you exactly what its priority.

768
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Is, right, It's a mission with a singular historic focus.

769
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>The HWO is currently in the rigorous planning and development stages. Yes,

770
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>it is, and being designed specifically with the goal of

771
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>not just finding Earth like planets beyond our Solar System,

772
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>but crucially analyzing the atmospheres of those planets for the

773
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>chemical signatures of life, biosignatures, biosignatures. Right, they want to

774
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>look at the light from the planet and see if

775
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 2>there is oxygen, methane, or water vapor in the air.

776
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They are looking for gases that are wildly out

777
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 3>of equilibrium, the kind of atmospheric chemistry that can only

778
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 3>be sustained if a biological process like photosynthesis or microbial

779
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>respiration is actively pumping those gases into the air.

780
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Because otherwise those gases would just break down.

781
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, They react and disappear if something isn't replenishing them.

782
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>But to get a clean enough reading of that atmospheric spectrum,

783
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>the HWO is going to need the absolute best optical

784
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 3>technology humanity can muster.

785
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>It cannot afford to have a blind spot in the

786
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>non common path.

787
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>It cannot afford the dirty bedroom, and it certainly cannot

788
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 3>afford to be blinded by that one in a million stellar.

789
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Leak, Which is exactly why the work being done at

790
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Use and Sydney and Santa Cruz is so vital right now.

791
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>It's the lynchpin. If these researchers can prove that photonic

792
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>lanterns and the peeps architecture can reliably solve the extreme

793
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>contrast problem, this astrophotonic technology could become the central beating

794
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 2>heart of the habitable world's observatory.

795
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 3>It could be the literal lens through which humanity finally

796
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 3>sees another Earth.

797
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 2>It is a testament to human ingenuity. I mean, we

798
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>are looking at a problem that seems mathematically and physically insurmountable,

799
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a ten billion to one floodlight blinding our view of

800
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a tiny firefly, and we are quite literally engineering our

801
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>way through the noise.

802
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 3>The stakes of this endeavor simply cannot be overstated.

803
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's focus on those steaks as we wrap this up,

804
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>because Steve and Eichenberry made a comment that frames the

805
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 2>weight of this research perfectly.

806
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know the quote you're talking about.

807
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. He pointed out that just identifying habitable

808
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 2>worlds around other stars, just proving that there are rocky

809
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>planets out there with the right temperature and conditions where

810
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Earth like life could potentially survive.

811
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Just that alone is a paradigm shift.

812
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Right that rewrites the textbooks on planetary science.

813
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 3>But he takes it a step further, and this is

814
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 3>where the gravity of the mission really hits you.

815
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, lay it out.

816
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 3>He said that if this technology works and the habitable

817
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 3>World's observatory uses these photonic lanterns to detect actual, verifiable

818
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 3>evidence of life, if we find a strong, undeniable biosignature

819
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 3>in that atmospheric data, then we are talking about one

820
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 3>of the greatest, most consequential scientific discoveries in the history

821
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 3>of our species.

822
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>It is a staggering thought, and it brings us all

823
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the way back to the backyard looking up at the sky.

824
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

825
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I can very summed up the reality of this exact

826
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.559
<v Speaker 2>moment in time with a quote that I haven't been

827
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>able to stop thinking about. He said, we are one

828
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 2>mission away, one mission, just one mission away from ending

829
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>millennia of philosophical speculation. We'll look up and know, We'll

830
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 2>look up and know.

831
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, for the researchers in the clean rooms right now,

832
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>quously stretching microscopic glass fibers over open flames. That is

833
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 3>the reality that drives them.

834
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not just the job.

835
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 3>No, they aren't just building a sensor for a telescope.

836
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 3>They are building a bridge across the existential unknown. They

837
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 3>are building the machine that answers the oldest question we have, which.

838
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<v Speaker 2>Leaves you with a massive thought to mullover as you

839
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 2>step outside tonight and look up at those stars. Yeah,

840
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>we spent this entire time talking about the physics, the diffraction,

841
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 2>the optical leaks, the photonic funnels, the quantum algorithms.

842
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 3>The nitty gritty engineering.

843
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>But let's assume the engineers win. Let's assume NASA's Habitable

844
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>World's Observatory launches with this technology onboard. Okay, it deploys

845
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>a million miles from Earth. It points it's perfectly polished

846
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 2>mirror at a distant star. The physical mask blocks the glare,

847
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the photonic lantern untangles the microscopic leaks, The algorithm mathematically

848
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>erases the noise, and the data beams.

849
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Back to Earth and it's positive.

850
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's positive, the methane and oxygen are there. We succeed.

851
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 2>What does humanity do on the very first day that

852
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>we wake up, look at that night sky and know

853
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>for an absolute, undeniable fact that something is looking back.

854
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 3>That changes everything.

855
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>What happens to our philosophy, our society, our place in

856
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the universe. The day after we are officially no longer alone,
