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Speaker 1: Hey, babes, Welcome back to Vanity. Farah.

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Speaker 2: My name is Chris Farrah, and we continue the journey

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that is ninety Day Fiance. It's season twelve, episode seven,

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The Ball and Chain. I obviously love the season and

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I could talk about it for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the better seasons we've had in a minute.

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Speaker 2: And obviously we know why the OG franchise works. It's

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because it's brand new people who are truly in ridiculous

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situations trying to relate to each other when they have

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vastly different experiences, worldviews, triggers.

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Speaker 1: And you know, values.

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Speaker 2: And I am here for it because I think at

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the end of the day, it's interesting to watch people

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have to come together and work on things, and especially

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if hopefully they share some morsel of love between them.

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So what they're trying to do is, you know, grow

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and evolve the relationship they have. Obviously what sucks was

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when people are fake, are weird. But at the same time,

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you know, here I am talking an hour about Mido. Okay,

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let's get in. Why don't we start with our good

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friends Marissa and Edward. So obviously we know that her

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rich ass family waspy, rich ass family is coming to visit,

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and Marissa does two things that I find to.

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Speaker 1: Be of note.

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Speaker 2: She a tells Edward to be the family approval style Edward,

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and that is like less fun Edward. Don't hug or

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pick up anyone, And don't call her mommy, mommy, don't

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call her stepdad poppy.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Just pretend that they are cold, sort of like wooly

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mammoths that you have to approach with caution and.

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Speaker 1: Like try and read their body language. Isn't that so interesting?

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It's interesting to be like change who you are and how.

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Speaker 2: You proceed and talk to people because my family won't

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like your natural gregarious personality anyway. Just interesting. So the

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second thing that's interesting is that we're like, okay, Marissa,

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show you have this big ass helm. It's gorgeous, you know,

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on the outside, on the inside very suspect. Let's just

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see what your life is like. You're having your big

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Italian family come over. We know what that life's like.

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Now she got food catered. Now do I expect Marissa

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to take time off of her busy bar teaching class

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to make a caprese salad?

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Speaker 1: No? I don't but she leaves the catered food in.

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Speaker 2: The exact packaging it comes in all these plastic shells

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and or tenfoil shells. And she says that she's embarrassed

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by it, and she should be. But also she has

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no other servingwear, and what why versa your seasoned? How

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have you not gotten any serveware? Also, you've been married before,

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so I know you were you were you have a

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registry or you had a registry at some point people

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had to go to a department store and buy you

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your bullshit things on that long off registry that she

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you know, had a gun and went around, you know,

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one of those price guns.

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Speaker 1: And put them on.

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Speaker 2: Like, I cannot believe this bitch has never gotten her

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ass to Creighton Barrel or Williamson Sonoma and has bought

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like that kind of basic earthware and a cream you

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know what I'm saying, Like, I just I'm not expecting

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her to have like stop and stuff like that, But

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I can't believe that she doesn't have any servingwear.

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Speaker 1: This house doesn't seem real. This seems almost like a.

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Speaker 2: Airbnb home with how cheap everything is on the inside,

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but also how unlivable, like her weird two showers with weird,

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horrible shower curtains, obviously her bedding. But like I when

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she says she has no serving wear, how have you

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ever had a party? So you yeah, like you've never

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hosted a holiday. You have two kids, you just never

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have them their kids over for like, you know, an easy,

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breezy birthday. But you need to get like a cupcake platter.

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It's really remarkable, like I mean, and I'm remarking on it.

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I mean, she then she complains about that. But then

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even for her like family, she has to undo a

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bunch of plastic utensils, plastic plates, plastic utensils. There's just

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a part of her that's like I cannot be.

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Speaker 1: Bothered to fill a dishwasher.

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Speaker 2: I just want to throw everything away, just create a

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bunch of fucking trash. I mean, why are you telling

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Edward how to behave in front of your family. If

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you're gonna have your family over and just serve them

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on a bunch of fucking plastic, look at yourself. When

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one finger is pointing at someone else, four more pointing

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back at you. So she's having her obviously mom, her stepdad.

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Her stepdad's name is Bob, and she calls her stepdad Bob,

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her aunt's uncles and a cousin named Carla, and she

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says the food is Italian, so are they, but Bob isn't.

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And then this is where Edward can't help, like just

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parceling out a little bit of joy, and he's like, no,

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he's Dominican.

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Speaker 1: And he laughs, which is hilarious. It's a great joke.

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Speaker 2: And when we see Bob's face in retaliation to that joke,

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we realize this man is dripping in like a UK face.

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He seems he looks like the most English person that

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you'd pluck off a countryside. I mean, you know, he

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seems country English, you know, which I find, let's just

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be honest charming. You know, there's cobblestones in whatever neck

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of the woods his great grandparents are from, you know,

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like he has good taste and butter. So her mom

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looks like a combination of Candy Spelling and Tory Spelling together.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Look, she looks like both women together as one woman.

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And what's interesting about that is that Tory Spelling looks

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nothing like her mom Candy Spelling. But also doesn't Marissa's

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mom also feel like she probably has like a Candy

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Spelling esque demeanor, and just how Tory rebelled from her mom.

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Speaker 1: Don't you kind of.

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Speaker 2: Feel like that's Marissa, Marissa having to listen to her

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mom talk and is watching Marissa's face.

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Speaker 1: She almost does like regress back.

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Speaker 2: To like a fifteen year old. I bet Marisa was

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like an absolute handful. Her mom's going to be like

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I raised a strong woman, but I feel like, yeah,

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like I feel like you guys have fought, and Marissa

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has done a lot of rebellious things. I think that

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Marissa's whole, like I'm going to date working classmen, is

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like a weird rebellion against her mom, even though I

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think that her mom came into money because of Bob Bob,

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because you know, I deep dive was like a CFO

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or one of those things of David's bridal, which coincidentally

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is where she worked for years, so you know, God

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bless Nepo bridal baby, that's what we call them now.

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Of course, when the whole family's there, Edward's doing his best.

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He you know, at one point, is like in the

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middle of like being lovely and charming, and Marisa's like,

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get up, I need to sit down and it's like awkward.

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So then someone else is like, oh, here, you can

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have my seat, Edward, and then they're like, okay, we've

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had enough, and so the mom starts to be like,

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I know we've met, but I just don't know you,

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and I don't know how I feel about your relationship

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with my daughter. They're like, well, enough hard questions. Let's

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go outside and have more hard questions. So Carla, who

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has a personality Marissa's mom, and Edward go outside to

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continue this great conversation, which feels very much like a

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hometown date from a Bachelor episode, you know, even if

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you know you know. Carla tries to lay some warmth

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and is like, well, he has to be special because

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you haven't brought a lot of men around your kids.

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they were special, and the mom gets I mean real

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conservative coded, and she's like, listen, we all know America

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is a wonderful place, happiest place on her Some would

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say the Disneyland of all countries, the best, the first.

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We're like the first, No, young, She's like, this is

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where everyone wants to be. The American dream you've heard

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of that, and what I'm trying to say is you

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have a lot of reasons to want to come over here.

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And he, you know, God Bless is like, I'm from

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the dr It's a tropical paradise. Maybe you feel like

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the socio economics systems are different from what you know.

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But for I guess our lack of like having disposable

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income to buy absolute bullshit chotchkeys and I don't know,

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plastic plates to serve our family.

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Speaker 1: We have family, We have like.

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Speaker 2: Warmth and joy in our households, So I mean, you know,

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wealth is relative. And she's like, mm hmm, what do

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you like about my daughter? What is it about my

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daughter that's so special to you? Which is a weird

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kind of question to ask, but you know, she asks it,

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and he, I think, answers in a way where he listen.

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He doesn't want to have to curtail to this lady,

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but he's like, look, I want respect and loyalty, and

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that's what she has.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think in Edward's mind, he wasn't like, well I

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like that body, and we fuck real good, we fuck

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on vacations so well. So I was like, oh, this moment,

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I can have this in real life. He doesn't say that,

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so he thinks he gets a gold star. Now, Marissa's

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like he sounded macho and doesn't really like, didn't really

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showcase his caring nature in his heart. He tells Marissa's

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mom that he is going to do everything in his hands,

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and I think she takes that to mean like he

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is going to do all it takes to do right

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by her. But you know, he didn't quite say that.

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Edward was on the defense and he was told

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to be, so I don't think that we can get

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like a true Edward being himself. You literally told him

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not to do so, Bob at that point, you know,

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is like knee deep in like a plastic cup of whiskey,

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chomping on some dry lasagna. Honestly, Okay, let's move on

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to Meato and Debbie. Now this is oh no, sorry, Meto.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I have small little pictures, and then I'm like,

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what do they look like? In real life? Oh? Do

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I know?

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Speaker 2: Have my Meto and Debbie thing? He said, there they

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are Meto and Debbie. Okay, Now, obviously we're a hot

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on the heels of what we can only assume is

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the last straw of this relationship. But it's suspect why

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he's not gone. We wake up, He's there, She's there.

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tour guide, plus all the movies, plus just the engagement

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of having almost you know, seven hundred or whatever he

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bought now fifty thousand followers. You would think that a

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man that has almost a million followers on Instagram would

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make so much money, you know, with spons deals. But

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guess what, No, he's talking. They're not talking, so basically

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they have producers coming in to facilitate this. I also

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think it's ridiculous and kind of funny that there is

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no friend or family member for him to call to

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have one of their classic state what happened last night

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on the phone with someone else's round up convos, but

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there's not and take note of it. He says that

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he had been patient with her, but he has no

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idea what happened because she just came in the car

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and started yelling, and he didn't understand where and why

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that would happen. And meanwhile, her friends are still shocked

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they're just like, yeah, I went bad so fast, and

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we're like, well, no, it was already bad, like you

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guys were seeing it at like a five simmering and

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then it blew up.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: They had gotten more drinks at the bar because Astra

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and Laura her friends are like the only important sort

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of like sociable, somewhat interesting people involved. Of course, Debbie

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had driven home and he had said that his plan

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was to go back to his country, and she had

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told him to look for flights. So the producers asked

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her what happened the next day, and we realize this

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girl is insane because she said it was just a

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bad day and I had a mini meltdown. So she's

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already internalizing the guilt and problem of last night being

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solely on her shoulders. Now, she did blow up at him,

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but it was caused by his weird passive aggressive energy.

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Now she starts to think it was her fault and

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you can tell. And that's when we realize that Debbie

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hasn't left the situation, and this is situation's not done.

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Now when she is at home, she goes in and

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out of having no makeup on, and then makeup on

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he is, you know, still reeling. He's mad that her

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friends questioned his virginity and that she questioned his virginity, which.

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Speaker 1: Is like, is that what happened?

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Speaker 2: But no, That's when Debbie was like, you'll fuck with

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other bitches on Instagram. You won't even post me, and

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you won't ask me if I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: She says.

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Speaker 2: He says, it's over, over over, But we're realizing that

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they're still together. Spoiler alert on Instagram. I think Mary

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had let it be known that they got married. There's

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a wedding certificate. We know that happens after after this.

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Why do we know what happened? Because we can tell

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this happens around Halloween because of the bullshit cost and

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they get married in December, which is.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do with that?

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You wipe your hands of this situation.

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Speaker 2: You're just like, I, well, okay, well I guess not.

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Don't waste my breath on you, even though I'm going

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to keep wasting my breath on her. If you had

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her as a friend, you wouldn't be friends with her anymore.

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You would just be like, well, it's awkward. I don't

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know how to describe being around you other than like

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being friends with someone who's falling into a cult and

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you just can't do anything about it. And you tell

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them they're crazy and things look weird, and they're like,

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I know, I know, but I'm still in it. You're like, well, okay,

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Well some people can like deal with that by either

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compartmentalizing or just being like we won't talk about the cult,

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but me I can't, you know, because if your lover

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or if you're in a cult or something like that,

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it's sort of like permeates all the other conversations, like

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what are you doing this weekend? I just you know,

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going to some meetings. You know they're like cult meetings,

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so you know, like, what are you doing this weekend?

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I'm just gonna, like, you know, be with my boyfriend.

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You're like, oh, you're nightmarish, mean, narcissistic person that has

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control over you and you have low self esteem and

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insecurity issues and that's why you're still with them.

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Speaker 1: Like how do you get past that? Hard? It's hard.

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Speaker 2: You have to like sometimes just be like, you know

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what I'm going to surround myself with people that are

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like doing good and positive things. I'm not going to

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surround myself with people that I have to bite my

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tongue because they're in horribly toxic situations and I either

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am going to like resent them or you know, have

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to deal with their neurosis or what it all falls apart.

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I'm going to be the one that has to pick

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them up again, even though I told them what's happening

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right now, which is that they're being bad Night Marrish

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with their own decision making. So anyway, by the way,

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also two things about Debbie. Besides the fact that she

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you know, won't get out of this situation. She loves

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that's a Cobalt blue, and I think that she also

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has had some lift filler that's like migrating here and

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there sometimes in her car profiles. I'm like, oh interesting.

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So she obviously goes to work the next morning and

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he again is still there. The producers come and again

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to talk to him, and he's wearing like a cream

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Barefoot Dreams esque comfy cozy rope. I have to assume

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it's Devons, but I also kind of think that maybe

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he brought it from Egypt.

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Speaker 1: It is cream, it's cozy.

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Speaker 2: It's a cozy cream rope. She's going to go meet

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up with Astra, and we know that Astra has to

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lay down that law. He has no friends that have

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a recount conversation with, but she does. And Astra is

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like all of us, except that Astra won't yell at her,

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which is not what I would do.

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Speaker 1: I would yell at her. I couldn't be on.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like that Chris is insane and she's abusive

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to her friend. But at some point I'd just be

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shaking Debbie and be.

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Speaker 1: Like, no slap, slap girl, wake up, you know.

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Speaker 2: So they meet and Debbie's like, I'm embarrassed. Yeah, I

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like everything that's happened.

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Speaker 1: Astra's rocking her nineties esque uniform, which is like a

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green and black flannel docks and sort of kool Aid

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stained hair. Astra says that Mito came like super fucking.

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Speaker 2: Close to her face and was in her space like

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he was gonna fight, and that he was immature and

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also inappropriate, and that he's over forty, so grow the

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fuck up, which is exactly true. Den Debbie's like, can

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you calm down? Astra, can you just calm down? Astra

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right here starts to realize is that Debbie is on

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the wrong side of her story.

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Speaker 1: Astra's like, me.

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Speaker 2: Calm down, me come down talking about what happened last

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night and your guy, me calm down.

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Speaker 1: We all saw that. Wow telling.

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Speaker 2: Debbie starts to low key defend him, and Astra's like, okay,

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let me see, let me regroup. Okay, do you think

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that he really loves you?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel genuine, which is the best that she

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can do saying all the things we've said. Now.

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Speaker 2: Another nightmarish thing is that Debbie's been on TikTok with

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sad music playing in the background for half a video

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to be like the mean things that you guys have

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been saying and also please stop calling him gay, And

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we're like, okay, ok K.

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Speaker 1: But you know that right, you see it? You the

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pants and everything.

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Speaker 2: Like Debbie put all twelve of her toes down and

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was like, I highly doubt this isn't a TikTok that

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Meadow would move across country, give up everything that he's

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known and loved what just for a simple acting dream. Meanwhile,

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Rissu's mom is like, of course he would, Debbie, it's

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the greatest country in the world. Edward doesn't even have

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weird acting aspirations. Debbie obviously, you know, doesn't have that either.

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But it's crazy to Yeah, it's really hilarious to think

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that she thinks that no person would ever do such

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a thing, when in fact, acting dreams is one of

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those things that has definitely made people move. I know,

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I was born and raised in the valley and you know,

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outskirts of Los Angeles, and I'll tell you, people definitely

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do move for this Pacific dream. A lot of them

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do all the time, continue to do so, even though

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it's a failing industry. Debbie is like now skirting around

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the idea that this isn't over, even though she said

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it was over, even though he said it was over,

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And even though she said look for flights, he was like,

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i'd I have to look for fights. But there were

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the one today and we're like, that's not real. Yes,

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I do think there's a flight you can get to

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go back to Egypt, like at any time, Like surely

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maybe not from Louis Armstrong Airport, which, of course I

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keep mentioning because I do love that airport. It's the

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one in New Orleans, but like, surely he can get

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a flight from.

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Speaker 1: There to Atlanta, Atlanta back to London, London to Egypt

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or god bless New Orleans to New York, New York

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to London, London to Egypt or whatever it is to Paris.

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Speaker 2: Honey, I'm this there is Yeah, you can start the

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journey for sure. When he says that, I'm like, oh

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my god, Debbie's like, well, I'll tell you what has

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to happen for this to move forward.

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Speaker 1: He has to apologize.

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Speaker 2: He just has to say I'm sorry. Also, he's not

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going to say I'm sorry. What's going to happen is

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he is going to yell at you for being frustrated

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and blowing up at him, and bitch, you're gonna apologize

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because we've already seen it happen, and then you're gonna

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ask for a ring, and we're gonna like swallow our

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whole heads, just like trying to deal and cope with it.

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It's one of those things, yeah, where you're just like, okay,

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well I can't stand on a soapbox and try and

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save someone, you know, drowning.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I don't know why it was.

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Speaker 2: Those are two different thoughts, but I can't, you know,

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like hang off this cliff, you know, with you about

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to fall over, just holding my arm dangling somewhat like

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gripping it too tightly, and then also me falling off

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this clip. I'm just gonna let you go, Debbie, where's

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Devin right now? Because Devin lives in this apartment. We

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have not seen enough of Devin in her sure jan face,

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and I feel like, yeah, Devin has to come back in,

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you know, link arms with Astra and be like mom,

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what the uh? Even lily Bit has like left. We

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haven't seen lily Bit in like at least a whole episode,

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maybe two, because lily Bit's like, I don't know if

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I can do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This two bedroom apartment is still too small.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What hold that man can have on her because we

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know that he hasn'tdigmatized her. He's like curly hairmatized her.

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He's like mean girled her. It's like he is the

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Regina George and she's like, you know, one of the

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Amanda Sifred kind of like characters, Like she's just daft

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and stupid and like loves this like toxic abusive energy. Huh.

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It really goes to show that like, men aren't shit

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in New Orleans, she can't find anyone that would possibly

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treat her better, or she has such a specific type

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and the specific type is.

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Speaker 1: For me, not it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to Annabelle and Shay. So she

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comes back from the saddest spa we've ever seen that

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gave her such a shitty manicure. There was no facial

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there was no massage, and all she got was Allison

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being like, I was gonna tell herself, but then my

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dad told her so, But I'm gonna build on this

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Angie being like, no, I no, I never do anything

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weird with your husband. So, because Angie had such a

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reaction to annabel which was that she wouldn't touch Shay

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with a ten foot pole or a big as deerhead,

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Angie now feels better and things that Angie's telling Sorry,

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Annabelle feels better things that Angie's telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: And now Annabelle.

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Speaker 2: Has sort of joined forces with Shay to be like,

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but I'm still worried about Nicole. She accepts Shae's apology

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and she's like, great, guess what. It's football nine in

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America or watching football on NBC, just like the Carr

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Underwood song, and you know what comes with football, beer

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and my friends. Let's all hang out have beer in

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my friends And she's like, no, you're not out of

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the doghouse yet. And obviously either of mie. There's dog

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hare everywhere. So one thing I'm not going to do

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is enforce the Asian stereotype household rule of.

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Speaker 1: Taking off our shoes.

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Speaker 2: We're all gonna wear our shoes all the time because

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you know, here's neither nor there, and I don't trust

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my feet on this, and so you can have your

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shoes on too. We're gonna stay home and drink herbal

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tea and do yoga. And he's like, we're gonna do

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what now. She's like, no beer, and he's like and

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she's like herbal tea, one of those like slimming down

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tea's honey, because you're getting chubs, chubs, my gubs. And

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we're gonna do yoga, which is basically just stretching. And

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he is like having to say okay for this or

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it's producer led, you tell me, because I do feel

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like if it was an important game and if he

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really wanted to have beers with friends. He'd be like, Okay,

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I'll do this yoga for twenty minutes, but I'm saying

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right now, right afterward, I'm gonna again some beer. A

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man like this isn't gonna suddenly change because of the

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love of a woman. You can tell very much that

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Shay's whole viewpoint is that he would like Annabelle to

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take care of him because she is very good at

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doing so, and also do all the things for him

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that he doesn't want to do, like reach his toenails

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and also let him, you know, have something to poke on.

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And also, you know, he likes someone who's going to

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try and get rid of just sixty percent of the

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dog hair on the couch, make the bed in the morning,

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and have him keep doing Shae.

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Speaker 1: Good old Southern boy Shay.

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Speaker 2: The parallels between him and Katie are hilarious to me,

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except that I feel like Josh isn't so forthcoming with

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why he still he stays around. But both Annabelle and

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Josh are getting something from those relationships. So as Shake

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gets on the ground to do whatever yoga she thinks

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she's going to do, and she's basically just warming him

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up for what also will be a zumba class. When

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he gets his shit together, you really see the dog

467
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looking at him being like, I'm judging you, and also

468
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,799
huh huh, guess who's on the couch right now enjoying

469
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,400
their life, and guess who's on the floor, bitch, Shay.

470
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,119
The kinds of shirts that Shay wears are polyester and

471
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,640
too tight for him. And then you also kind of

472
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,400
feel like, don't breathe and probably very aren't comfortable. Very

473
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,759
aren't comfortable, is what I said. You know that senses

474
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:29,559
very aren't grammatically correct. Let's move on though, to Katie

475
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:36,440
and Josh. Katie and Josh.

476
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie and Josh have a huge episode. Uh.

477
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,359
Speaker 2: It's always interesting when they decide to give us like

478
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,400
more of someone or less of someone, But it feels

479
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,480
like they've acquired some amount of furniture, like either from

480
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,079
her friend or whatnot. Because he now has a desk

481
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,519
and an office chair, and he admits the office share

482
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,559
is nice, it's a good office.

483
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,319
Speaker 1: It's good.

484
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,799
Speaker 2: It's a great office chair. He thinks it's comfortable. He's like, okay,

485
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:14,480
you're right, great, and then she starts saying things that

486
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,079
we also realize our direct comments to him that he doesn't.

487
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,599
Speaker 1: Believe because he's used to like.

488
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 2: A passive, aggressive society, and she's kind of direct. So

489
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:31,559
she's like, I just, you know, don't feel comfortable sharing

490
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,119
a space or like ever living with people.

491
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't like having to hold space.

492
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: For others and share space with them. Katie, for all

493
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,359
of her eccentricities, is highly judgmental on how Josh lives.

494
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Almost like Katie thinks that everything she does is the

495
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:54,240
right way and smart way to do things, even though

496
00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:01,279
in confessionals she's also open that her executive functioning and

497
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:05,640
so some of her like tightly held beliefs about money

498
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,759
or how to buy eggs, or what she wants to

499
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,839
do or what she's capable of doing in any given

500
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,039
time doesn't seem to like follow through with, Like she

501
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,519
doesn't seem to want to change her behavior in the

502
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,640
presence of someone who does things differently. She almost like

503
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400
leans back on her laurels to defend her behavior, which

504
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,119
is she's like, you put a lot of pressure on

505
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,880
me to get things done in a certain way by

506
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:40,079
a certain time, And what he wants to do is

507
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:44,039
like put together a house to be livable, and she

508
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,839
doesn't have all the capabilities to get all that done

509
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,079
because they're overwhelming to her, and she like hyper scrutinizes

510
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,559
the best way and or cheapest way, which is in

511
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,880
her mind the best way to do so. And so

512
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,319
because he wants to get things done, he's not allowing

513
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,519
her to do that process of think about do one

514
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,960
small thing, then get overwhelmed and do something else and

515
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,319
get distracted and then be like, well, just wait, just wait,

516
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,400
just wait, because she doesn't see the value and having

517
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,480
a put together, livable home that feels good to her

518
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:24,720
visually and space wise, as well as make her partner

519
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:34,200
happy and feeling settled. Sometimes like disorganization in the mind

520
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,279
not can be remedied, but can feel a certain you know,

521
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:49,240
relief from being in an organized aesthetically comfortable, if not

522
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:55,160
beautiful in a way, like aesthetically pleasing space. You know,

523
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:58,559
like having your shit all over the place and never

524
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,640
making your bed and like how having you know.

525
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:05,319
Speaker 1: Dishes pile up. All of that does something to.

526
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: Your mind as well as like all the things you

527
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,240
have to do. It doesn't relieve it, It makes it

528
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:16,400
more intense because you start to calculate all the things

529
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,559
you have to do and then just the mental fatigue

530
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,599
of your to do list could be overwhelming, but walking

531
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,799
into a space that you've taken the time to put

532
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:37,000
together that makes you feel relief, slash, capable and productive.

533
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,920
You know, like is mental health, Like it is mentally

534
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:48,720
healthy and also is positive for like your own self care,

535
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440
just like in some ways, you know, taking a shower,

536
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,519
doing your hair, putting on clothes that is like clean

537
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400
and steamed or whatever like that you feel like you

538
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,839
look good like helps visually sort of connect and aligne

539
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,400
your thought processes and how you feel about yourself and

540
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,079
what you know you can accomplish with like the rest

541
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:13,519
of your day. And that's why I guess I go

542
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,559
back and forth being like, who is her like psychologist

543
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,519
and has she done like cognitive behavioral therapy to understand

544
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:25,440
like the ways in which she could help herself. It's

545
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,759
just so interesting how defensive she gets about her lifestyle

546
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:36,039
choices in relationship to him, Because what's also interesting is

547
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:41,400
that you start to feel a certain level of disrespect

548
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,160
that she has for the way he lives his life.

549
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: If he is.

550
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,559
Speaker 2: Someone who has made money and who has money and

551
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:52,160
has savings and wants to like you know, put together

552
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,480
a normal home that has all the accouterments that would

553
00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:00,000
allow you know, daily life to be easy, somewhat comfortab

554
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,240
and you know, like there's eggs involved, and you feel

555
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,640
good about the eggs because you feel like they're either

556
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,559
pasture raised or organic or fresh. And you have a

557
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:10,960
table to sit on that makes sense, and you have

558
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,400
like a chair to do you're typing from, and you

559
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,239
also have like a full sized bed or queen where

560
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,639
you you know, know that the mattress underneath isn't teeming

561
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:28,119
with who knows what. You're able to sort of like

562
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,199
breathe in a way and accomplish things in a way

563
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,159
because like you're starting from a good place. And she

564
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,920
like it's like, yeah, she doesn't take any of that

565
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:50,880
in and she's just like he's wasteful, he's demanding. She's

566
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
not at a place yet where she's like, you know what,

567
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:57,000
you do things differently than me, But I can see

568
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,719
the value of how you want to live, and I

569
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,880
understand that. I am like, so far the pendulum shifts

570
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,840
for me in a different direction. So far I would

571
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,559
really like compromise and come together and like maybe you

572
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:17,159
can help me, you know, get this place.

573
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,639
Speaker 1: Good for both of us.

574
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: Or she could easily just be like, all right, we'll

575
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,719
just go out and buy your own eggs with your

576
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,199
own money. Then i won't tell you what's right or wrong.

577
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,639
I'll just assume people do things differently. I know I

578
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,199
do things differently. It's just an interesting place to not

579
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:41,280
be in. So they get into a crazy conversation because

580
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
she's like, yeah, I don't get why I have to

581
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,920
feel any empathy for you at all, because I've gone

582
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,239
in many different countries and pet sat in them for

583
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,440
a year or less, and I've traveled, so like, why

584
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,960
is it so hard for you to come here? And

585
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,320
he's like, bitch, I moved here, and also so like

586
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,800
I left everything I knew and it's hard to be

587
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,639
an immigrant in America. He doesn't say brown person though,

588
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:11,280
you know, God bless, and she's like like, I guess

589
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,800
I relate. But it's also like crazy that her mind

590
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,159
let her say that sentence in the first place. Guess what,

591
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,239
it's her birthday, and it's interesting that Josh thought that

592
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,840
she was twenty seven when she was only twenty six,

593
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,039
and now it's her twenty seventh birthday. And he's like, oh,

594
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,159
it's not twenty eight? How do you not know the

595
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:44,239
age of your fiance? Josh really feels like Josh has

596
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:52,039
never had the possibility of a lady in his life

597
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
for longer than like a two day period of time,

598
00:36:56,119 --> 00:37:03,840
and he doesn't want to give it up because his

599
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,559
clock is taken or he wants to be settled in

600
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:11,519
some way. It's interesting, I already said this out loud,

601
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:15,400
but like, it's true that some women, some people, some

602
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,519
people give off this like hectic, chaotic energy and it

603
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:28,039
reads to some boring men as being adventurous, charming, exciting

604
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:37,480
that her presence brings about experiences that he wouldn't necessarily

605
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:44,559
have because she provides access to situations he wouldn't be in.

606
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,039
Like either because she is more jovial because of the

607
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,840
alcohol and like invites social people to come in and

608
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,320
then offer certain experiences. Or she's just so down in

609
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,280
the moment for things that she allows them to say

610
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,079
yes to things that they would maybe moll over instead

611
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,159
or not do if it wasn't with her, and that

612
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:17,679
kind of life force becomes intoxicating to them. It's kind

613
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:19,920
of like she's not rich right, like, or maybe she is,

614
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,280
but like she's not rich in the sense of like

615
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,559
dating someone who's so wealthy that like they're like, well,

616
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,320
do you want to hop on the PJ and go

617
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,400
to my friend's house and bermuda this weekend?

618
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,039
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I haven't.

619
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: Dated that person either, But if you're dating that kind

620
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,239
of person, then they have like all of these experiences

621
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,559
that you might just be able to like hitch your

622
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,719
boat to, right, Like, oh, I guess you know this weekend,

623
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,480
I was just going to like stay home and watch

624
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:48,239
Netflix documentaries. But you know she has all these rich

625
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,559
friends that do these fun things and or you know,

626
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,719
if you were dating someone that was pseudo in some

627
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,199
sort of scene or a famous person.

628
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 1: That.

629
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: They color your social life in such a way that.

630
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: You can.

631
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: Detect in your life before and after the BC and

632
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,039
ad of them in your life, because your life used

633
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:16,039
to look like, well.

634
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: I would just hang with my friends and play D

635
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,599
and D. But then I started dating this person that like,

636
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:24,960
you know, wants to go to or wants to travel together,

637
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:28,280
or gets invited to things, or you know, is really

638
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,800
active in some community that I, you know, wouldn't necessarily

639
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,000
be in, but it's fun and you know, makes me

640
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,639
feel like I'm alive. Like she has that quality that

641
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,840
Josh can't get enough of.

642
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,639
Speaker 2: So she's like, guess what for my birthday? I'm going

643
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,639
to this is a shock sit down. I want to

644
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:58,800
go listen to a bar. Okay, wait and drink alcohol

645
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,000
with my friends.

646
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: And Josh is like, didn't see that one coming. Has

647
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,360
anyone ever just been like, bitch, go to do like a.

648
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: Murder mystery dinner. She's like, I have something to tell you.

649
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,760
Sit down and he's like, uh, okay, are you pregnant?

650
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,639
And she's like, oh no, no, I'm on the pill.

651
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,239
I have one of those copper iud's.

652
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

653
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,199
Speaker 2: He's like, She's like, remember my friend Ryan, you know

654
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,800
the Ryan that you hate, the Ryan that like knows

655
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,239
that we were together. But then I made out with

656
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,760
him two to four times since we've been together, and

657
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
he's like yeah, She's.

658
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Like I invited him.

659
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,199
Speaker 2: Ryan is some guy that she went to Chicago one

660
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:50,760
time and I don't know men in a dating app

661
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,239
and was like or I don't know. She says, a

662
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239
run club. I mean, is it just like run club

663
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,199
meetups everywhere? And she was like, let's run one day.

664
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,000
Guess what we should do the Boston Marathon, No Chicago Marathon.

665
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,039
I don't know where she met on one of those places, honey,

666
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,719
and he was like okay, and then they just kept

667
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,199
you know, drinking after their like you know, big runs,

668
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,719
you know, and then very dehydrated together and then they

669
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,960
needed to make out. Josh is really mad at Ryan

670
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,519
when he should be mad at who Katie or really himself,

671
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,119
because guess what, he met Katie doing the very thing

672
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,199
that she's doing, which is making out with people, and

673
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,960
for some reason he has a problem with that. You know,

674
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,119
she told him that she's that kind of person and

675
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:29,760
showed him.

676
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,599
Speaker 1: Why is he mad at Ryan? Makes no sense? So

677
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:36,079
we also find.

678
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: Out that Joshua has a list of people that he

679
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,039
doesn't like in her life. And I'm sure they're just

680
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:42,639
all the men that she was hooked up with, but

681
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:44,519
if he was also like, and your mom's on that list.

682
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:45,119
Speaker 1: Just kidding.

683
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: But she of course invited Ryan and then she has

684
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,599
to tell him to his face and he's like, Okay, well,

685
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,119
what I don't want you to do, though, is take

686
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,440
shots and make out with people. And she sometimes she

687
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:02,880
looks at him and the confessionals or in the docuseries

688
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,400
are watching where you see her eyes yell at him no,

689
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,159
but she stopped her lips from doing so. But she's

690
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:20,639
kind of like blinking and rebooting in that process.

691
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:29,039
Speaker 1: So it looks like this, like I know you're on

692
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,000
a podcast, so you're like, bitch, what did you just do?

693
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,119
It's just, yeah, you know what I did. It's her face.

694
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: She talks in tiktoks about the fact that she knows

695
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,880
she's a blinker and she doesn't know why she does it.

696
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,039
Maybe she doesn't when she's thinking or having thoughts, and

697
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:47,880
guess what, she has a lot of thinking thought moments.

698
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,719
She's like, Okay, I won't take shots and make out

699
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,119
with people. It's just that sometimes I like to seek

700
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:03,639
and rerec validation. And she like thrill and entertainment. Josh

701
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000
is like me too, That's why I'm with you. Don't

702
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,599
you get those things with me? Aren't I thrilling and

703
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,800
entertaining enough for you? And Katie is like blink.

704
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Blink blink, blink, blink blink blink blink, blink, lips just

705
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,119
pursing into a no, just being like mm mmmmm mm hmmm.

706
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Is Joshua a runner? Like is he you know, it

707
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,480
seems like he's running towards his problems. Katie, he doesn't

708
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,000
seem like a runner. He seems like a stare. He

709
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,760
seems like a floater that attaches his dinghy or gets

710
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,440
his anchor and then just sits for too long in

711
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:49,920
troubled waters.

712
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I work in metaphors now.

713
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: Katie has moments of lucidity, which makes us wonder why

714
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480
she doesn't like keep on to them, because she's like,

715
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:04,239
I want to be a good partner and we're like

716
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,039
you do, oh you do?

717
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Oh well, then here's some things.

718
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,119
Speaker 2: Allow other people to live, especially when you live so

719
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,800
specifically and particularly.

720
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:27,119
Speaker 1: Also don't you know, disrespect them on national television over

721
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,119
and over again doing the same shit that you can

722
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,880
stop by not putting yourself in those situations, but you

723
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:41,000
do over and over again. Can you imagine, like how

724
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:44,519
many great things in Portland she could do for her birthday?

725
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,800
But you know, she goes to a place called the

726
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,400
Twilight Room, so.

727
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: She's trying to confirm who's going to be there, and

728
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,360
then Josh is like, have you texted that guy I hate?

729
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:03,920
And she's like, yep, yep, we didn't talk on the phone. Though,

730
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,760
so we didn't talk on the phone. It's like, bitch,

731
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,440
we're twenties. You don't talk on the phone anymore. Then

732
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,079
you guys talk on the phone. What do you mean

733
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,280
talk on the phone like your voice people to send

734
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,320
voice notes back and forth.

735
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: Now you know that.

736
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: Now Josh asks the question, why do you want to

737
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,239
be friends with someone who we both know you don't

738
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,239
really have friend vibes with and you have repeatedly like

739
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,880
kissed and it makes me upset, And she's like, well,

740
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:37,199
he's fun, you're not. And also he would pick up

741
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,360
if I called him in the middle and I crying.

742
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,119
I found that very interesting also just to say it

743
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:53,719
is like your partner who I'm assuming is there in

744
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,840
the middle of the night physically with you if you

745
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,920
are waking up and crying. But we also know that

746
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,039
she meant she wants someone to when she's drunk in

747
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,000
the middle of the night, she can call and he

748
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:14,039
can come over, like to be like, he's fun and

749
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:16,119
I get emotional support from him.

750
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: Seems like cheating.

751
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,679
Speaker 2: You just met this guy like at a meetup club

752
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,400
for runners, like and then you guys made out, Like

753
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,320
what is this person going to tell you?

754
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: In a different city if you're crying.

755
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, like the fact that Josh isn't like, well,

756
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,639
you would also just wake me up and I would

757
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:36,199
help you through that time.

758
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm your soon to be husband.

759
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,079
Speaker 2: He's like, well, what would you do if I was

760
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,000
the one that wanted to repeatedly be around someone who

761
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,679
I was emotionally cheating with? And she's like, oh, I

762
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:52,920
would hate that. I would ask you.

763
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: Not to hang out with him. I would just yeah,

764
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,199
but I don't want to be a hypocrite. So we're like, well,

765
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:04,119
you just said that, so you are. But you just

766
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,880
said that, and you heard yourself say it. It didn't

767
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,480
even dawn on you after you say it to be

768
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:12,360
like you know what, You're right, She just says, I

769
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,039
don't want to be a hypocrite, so and then she

770
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:21,960
just stops talking. He yikes.

771
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So she sort of lets it slip that she

772
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:36,079
is sort of low key trying to make him break

773
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:40,440
up with her by bringing up and or putting herselfs

774
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,320
in situations to make out with people.

775
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: And then we sort of remember her.

776
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Being like, I don't want to live with anyone, And

777
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,519
then we sort of remember her being like, I didn't

778
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:49,480
want you to move here. I don't really know if

779
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:54,159
I want to get married. And then we're like, what's real?

780
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,960
Do you have OCD that makes you have intrusive thoughts

781
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239
about making out with people? Are you an alcoholic and

782
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,039
that's why you want to make it up people? Are

783
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:03,519
you just like not really into Josh and also feel

784
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,480
like you have better prospects out there, and so you

785
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,679
like are leading him on, but also want him to

786
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,639
be the one that breaks up with you, so you

787
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,880
don't You're not a bad person, and so you just

788
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,039
keep making out with people. Is I also, Josh, like,

789
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:18,639
are you picking up on what she's putting down? Which

790
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:21,679
is what I'm just saying out loud right now. When

791
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,400
they get to the Toilight Room bar, she says that

792
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,719
her phone is stressing her out, and uh so she

793
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,880
gives her phone to Josh and we're like, Yeah, why

794
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,960
is your phone stressing you out? Is it that people

795
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:32,760
keep texting you on your birthday to be like we're

796
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,119
going to be there soon or whatnot? That part I get,

797
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,239
But it's more more so that she thinks, I think

798
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,519
that she's going to lose her phone, so she asks

799
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,000
Josh to put in her pocket now at that point,

800
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,039
why Josh does a low key text Ryan. It's like

801
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,760
we changed locations, go to the Portland Bridge.

802
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 1: He doesn't.

803
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,599
Speaker 2: Now Josh shows up like in a dinner jacket and

804
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,079
her friends show up with a baby and like Patagonia

805
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,440
coats no like a dinner, you know, like it's just

806
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,000
a He dresses wildly different than how people in Portland dress.

807
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,800
Ryan comes up and we meet Ryan, and we also

808
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,840
realize Ryan is a little bit of a blinker too.

809
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,599
He does that like one second blink that's a little

810
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,760
too long, but also like mildly interesting and also neuro

811
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:32,920
divergent maybe in some way, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

812
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,920
he's he has a little like one of those like

813
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,840
slight blink ticks.

814
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,159
Speaker 1: He's also in love with Katie.

815
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,639
Speaker 2: He can blame honey, but you won't miss that gaze.

816
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,039
So he also sort of reiterates things that we already

817
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,320
know that like is Katie's pull on a certain type

818
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,719
of men. He's like, she's just that whirlwind friend that

819
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,280
creates interesting opportunities and situations wherever she goes.

820
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it.

821
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: So then Josh takes Ryan out to the back and

822
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:14,599
Katie's just there standing awkwardly looking back and forth, and

823
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:15,239
Josh is.

824
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:16,039
Speaker 1: Like, why are you here?

825
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,079
Speaker 2: And Ryan is like, well, because I thought it'd be

826
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:26,400
a good time. She's a good time goal, it's a

827
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,400
good time. Gal's birthday, and I was traveling.

828
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,519
Speaker 1: Also, I'm a big runner, you haven't you heard, so

829
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,480
I ran here to the birthday. You know.

830
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: Also I kind of want Ryan to be like, oh,

831
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:42,280
because your girlfriend invited me. I have the text to

832
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,599
prove it and the voice notes. But then Ryan says

833
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,480
something very interesting, and this is where the episode ends

834
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:55,280
for them, because you know, it's a cliffhanger. He says

835
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,480
that he talks to Katie, and you know, they talk

836
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:03,800
a lot about what she wants out of life and

837
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,039
what she wants in her life, which leads us to

838
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:13,079
believe Eddie the following things that Katie's like, I'll tell

839
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,480
you what I want Ryan, it's you. I just don't

840
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,840
know how to tell Josh or I tell you what

841
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,760
I want Ryan, It's to be in a polyamorous relationship.

842
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: And I want to be in one with you and Josh.

843
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: Or hey, Ryan, I want to culk Josh cock wait

844
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:39,280
cuckled Josh. It's really it's my thing, and how do

845
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,280
we get him on board? Like she either is going

846
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,719
to have Ryan break up with Josh for her, like

847
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,320
that is what it all sort of like feels like. Meanwhile,

848
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:59,360
I mean Katie is just there looking at both of them,

849
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,039
Lincoln wanting to take shots. Obviously we know what's going

850
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,000
to happen. It's absolute messiness and I can't wait for it.

851
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,960
So listen. That's the end of part one, my loves,

852
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Please go on and listen to part two because we

853
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,639
have other people to talk about and we're going to

854
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,360
see what's going to happen with this crazy situation. All right,

855
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,360
my babes, thank you so much for listening. By the way,

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Speaker 1: So I'll see you there and I love you. Thank

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you so much. Give this podcast five stars. And Hit

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Part two. Bye,