1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,400 video game show here at Geek First. I'm your host, 3 00:00:08,439 --> 00:00:11,519 Still mustn't it with me? The Split kirklam Patzer, How 4 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:12,640 are you doing today, my friend. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm doing very good, doing very good. I'm excited to 6 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,000 talk some games and some some up and comers with you. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 8 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a fun episode here. We talk about 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,559 some of the games we've been playing. For me, that's 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,839 mostly been Civilization seven, which just released last week. There's 11 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:31,800 also a pretty juicy state of play, like forty five 12 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:35,000 minutes worth of some new announcements, some kind of reminders, 13 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:38,759 new trailers, other random PlayStation information. And then I don't 14 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:40,560 even know what Kirkland's got cooking over here, so I'm 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 excited to find out. But it should be a good episode. 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,640 If you want to support the show, you can hit 17 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:47,679 a Patreon. It's the best place to go. You get 18 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:51,600 episodes early and add free. You can also join our 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,640 discord to chat with us about all sorts of stuff. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 21 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things going on the feeds. We're 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,520 doing all sorts of our award stuff, like the Golden 23 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Geeks did the MCU Golden Geeks or the Marvel one rather, 24 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,519 and then we're gonna do the full on Golden Geeks 25 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:07,560 this week. It's TV show City right now, we did 26 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,319 a review for Captain America, and uh, I don't know 27 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:13,799 any other any other things to mention in this world, Kirkland. 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: Uh No, I. 29 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Think you got the heavy hitters. We got Daredevil coming up. 30 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,760 So Taylor and I are getting ready to release our 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,760 last retro there. So that's uh, it's been a fun journey, but. 32 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: Still not recorded. Hey that's still uh no, it's still 33 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:28,200 just in your head progress. 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, fair enough, Okay, Uh, let's start with 35 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:39,599 Civilization seven because I've been playing just a ungodly amount 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,959 healthy amount, healthy amount. 37 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go all the way back to the antiquity 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 era here. Uh yeah, So just a little kind of 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,400 quick backstory, I guess for me with Civilization Sid Meyers Civilization, 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,079 I gotta have two main touch points with this series, 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,079 of course, of the seventh one, and there's even been 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,640 spin off outside of the numbered ones, and I've played 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,799 maybe like half the games in the series. For me, 44 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:01,319 the first one that I played back in the day 45 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,280 was Civilization three, and this is one of those classic Games. 46 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:06,719 Kirkling that like back in I don't even know how 47 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,879 old I was, but it was like summer middle school vibe. 48 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:12,719 I want to say, maybe even late elementary school. My 49 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:14,560 cousin who i'd play a lot of games with, he 50 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,400 over the summer, would spend like all of July with us. 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,599 Speaker 3: He lives in Vancouver. 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: We lived in Colonna, but he would come stay with 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,680 us for all of July, and an insane amount of 54 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:25,520 video games we would play. We watched like water Boy 55 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,240 every single night, so yeah, literally watched that like thirty 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,680 times back to back pretty much. And then we like 57 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,120 always had a shift game on the the one PC 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,039 in the house. You know, sometimes we play like GameCube 59 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,080 and other things, but we always we always had the 60 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,719 shift game. So it'd be like Roller Coaster, Tycoon, maybe 61 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:46,400 SIMS or Civilization three was another big one there where 62 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:47,960 we would you know, play for a few hours. Maybe 63 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,560 we'd be working on it, brainstorming stuff, but he'd be like, Okay, 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,719 he played for a few hours. I'd boot up a 65 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:55,360 different save, played for a few hours. And it's funny 66 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,240 thinking back, it's like I don't know how strategic or 67 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:00,520 good we were. I feel like all we probably did 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,360 was combat and just strong others and not pay attention 69 00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:06,800 to culture and science and all these other different pillars 70 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,000 that make up a civilization game, because of course there's 71 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,800 a lot to it, but it's a game that I'm 72 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,560 very nostalgic for. I did revisit SIV three maybe five 73 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:14,919 or six years ago and played a bit of it, 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,879 and it was fun, just kind of going back since 75 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:19,439 playing newer ones and being like, oh my god, this 76 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,639 this is very confusing. I thought I would pick this 77 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:23,639 up and know how it all works. But all these 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,120 games have such little details in the quirks of how 79 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:29,919 they all work that they all feel very distinct to play. 80 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: And if it's been a while since you haven't played one, y, 81 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:32,639 I feel. 82 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:34,919 Speaker 1: Like there's always that recoup period of like, Okay, how 83 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,159 does this stuff work? How do like settlers work in 84 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:39,439 this game? How does like production and food and all 85 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:41,800 these just little things. They're always a little bit different. 86 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:44,560 So Save three, by the way, did you have one 87 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,039 of those that you would play with like a cousin 88 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,800 or something like that, just like called a weird shift 89 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,599 game like a PC or you're kind of split in 90 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,400 the PC time. 91 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: That's hilarious that you bring that up because I had 92 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,360 the very same dynamic with my one cousin where he 93 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,520 lived in Alberta. But every summer, like he would just 94 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,439 come and stay with us, and yeah, we'd be playing 95 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:04,680 a lot of games together. He was actually the one 96 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:06,879 that gave me like my first PlayStation because he got 97 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:09,159 a PS two and then I got his one. So 98 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,120 we were playing a lot of console games together, like 99 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:14,400 mostly PlayStation. But the big like shift rotation game that 100 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,920 we played was like g T A San Andreas and 101 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,040 like we wouldn't do the storylines or anything. It would 102 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,480 just be like you'd go on a rampage like once 103 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:22,000 you die, you know, like try and get a five 104 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,959 star and with all my friends. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,360 that that was a pretty easy shift game there. But 106 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,600 uh no, I we played a lot of games together, 107 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,920 and there probably is some that I'm forgetting, but we 108 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,560 were We were pretty lucky where we had like a 109 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,839 bunch of PCs in like my basement, so we just 110 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,519 do like land parties for like age mythologies and stuff 111 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,600 like that, so we didn't really have to swap out 112 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,560 too much. But uh, yeah, no, it was good times. 113 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 114 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the very fond memories of those those games that 115 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,639 like you're just so passionate about that you're like anxiously 116 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,519 waiting for your turn, you know, so like a smash 117 00:04:56,519 --> 00:04:58,439 remark or everyone's just playing at the same time. 118 00:04:59,199 --> 00:04:59,879 Speaker 3: So yeah, that was IF. 119 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:02,199 Speaker 1: And then the next one I played was CIV five. 120 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,839 I don't know how old I was, Maybe this was 121 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,240 like high school era, maybe even a bit later in 122 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,720 my adulthood or something like that. 123 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,519 Speaker 3: And it's funny. 124 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like with CIV five, I have 125 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,079 a similar thing as I do with Melee, where Melee 126 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:14,399 is a game I grew up played at his kid 127 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,920 loved it, and then I rediscovered it as an adult 128 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:18,360 in the competitive scene. And I kind of feel like 129 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,519 I have two there's two minds when it comes to 130 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:22,560 like how Melee exists. In my mind, there's an assaultient 131 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,759 kid brain and then like the old in depth, I 132 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,839 know all the frame date, I knew all this information, 133 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,360 and I feel like that's kind of what I had 134 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:30,360 with CIV five. When I first played it, it was 135 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:31,680 just like, oh, this is SIV three, but it just 136 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 looks way better. Cool this It's fun like I don't 137 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:37,120 understand everything when I'm just having a good time. And 138 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,120 then at some point a few years down the line, 139 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:41,000 I remember I got like really into watching a bunch 140 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,319 of youtubes about CIV five and just like really learning 141 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,240 in depth how all these mechanic works, and like getting 142 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,839 to the point of like mid maxine and I never 143 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,160 really played online, but just like keep turning up that 144 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,319 CPU difficulty until I don't know if I ever really 145 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:53,439 beat the highest difficulty, but the second to highest, and 146 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:55,680 there's like seven or eight tiers or something like that, 147 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,199 but just really getting super in depth knowledge of those mechanics. 148 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,519 So it's just, yeah, it's become one of my favorite 149 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,639 games of all time because that's when I keep revisiting 150 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,160 every couple of years. It's one of those games that 151 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,439 I'll come back and do a save and then I 152 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,720 have to like mentally stop myself because I know it's 153 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:12,879 like the only thing I'll play, and I play on 154 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,600 the quick difficulty or a quick speed, so it's like 155 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:17,959 it doesn't take too too long, but it's still say 156 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 hours for like one one game to complete, right and 157 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,720 then after that, I did, you know, since I was 158 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,519 so hyped on cidfive, I did play CIV six probably 159 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,920 a round when it came out, probably within the first year, 160 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:30,800 and weirdly, it was a game I bounced off pretty quickly. 161 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,920 I think I was just so in depth with SIV 162 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:35,160 five and there's so many changes, and they changed some 163 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,959 specific things that I really liked about CIV five in 164 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,839 terms of micromanaging certain resources or like bounce the worker 165 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:43,160 min Max and that. 166 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,759 Speaker 3: Sort of stuff. 167 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: And so because of some of these changes, I think 168 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,199 I kind of turned away from it pretty quickly and 169 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,120 probably didn't really give it much of a fair shake. 170 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,439 And I've definitely gone back and booted up a few 171 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:53,959 more games over the years, but it's just. 172 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: Never clicked with me. 173 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,639 Speaker 1: I also didn't really love the art style as much 174 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,879 as a little more like Pixar cartoony. Everyone's like weird proportion, 175 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,759 like they don't look like real people, and I feel like, 176 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,240 I'm really sure, even though this is a fictional retelling 177 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:07,519 of society, it's nothing close to our actual human history. 178 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,600 I still I like that element of realism that touch point, 179 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,160 and so I think something about the art style kind 180 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,680 of turned me off too. And then other than that, 181 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,160 play a little bit of Civilization Revolution. I talked about 182 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,279 playing the DS version of that last year on side Quest, 183 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:20,920 but also played the console version back in the day 184 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,160 a little bit. And then it was it called after Earth, 185 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,639 like the one like in Space Planet Beyond Earth. 186 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: That's the one, And yeah, I almost immediately tipped on 187 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:30,199 that game. 188 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: I probably bought it at full price, and I was like, no, 189 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,199 I'm not into this at all. So then I just 190 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,800 kind of keep going back to CIV five. So that's 191 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:38,399 kind of my brief history with the series, and I 192 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:41,000 think something about that dynamic. 193 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Okay, SIV five is again my love. I know it 194 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:43,079 so well. 195 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,439 Speaker 1: CIV six comes out, it changed a lot of things 196 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,800 that I really like about the game. Of course it 197 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,240 adds other new, cool, interesting things, but I kind of 198 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:51,240 just bounced off it because it wasn't familiar, and I 199 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:53,839 feel like by the time CIV seven has rolled around here, 200 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,800 I guess that was maybe more more open to try 201 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,360 and and I knew going in, I'm like, this is 202 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,240 not SIV five for Dylan, this is not SIVI five. 203 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:02,959 This is not gonna be the same. I'm not gonna 204 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,639 get the same it's not gonna activate the same synaps 205 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:07,120 in the brain. It's gonna be a little bit different. 206 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,480 And so I think I came at it from a 207 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,839 bit more of a fair shot, and I almost want 208 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:12,519 to go back and play some more sivis six now 209 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:14,120 and give that a bit more of a fair shot 210 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,480 and understand some of its mechanics more. But yeah, so far, 211 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:21,279 I mean early impressions, because this is you know, Siev's fives, 212 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:22,560 the game I have one hundreds of hours in, so 213 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,399 it's hard to compare with I don't know, maybe I 214 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:26,759 have twenty already though, like in this first week, like 215 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:30,079 I've played a lot so far, so good. I'm really 216 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,600 enjoying it. I think the change of mechanics are really interesting. 217 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:35,559 You know. Of course it does change some things I 218 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,320 do love about SIEV five, but I think it all 219 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,919 it for me. It's justified some of those changes a 220 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,960 bit more. Whereas SIV six I was just like, ah, 221 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,919 I don't like this at all. Why would they make 222 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,679 this change? I think where I want to start, though, 223 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,639 is by critiquing the game heavily for being unfinished. This 224 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,200 is an early access game. It's not sold or pitched 225 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:57,440 or whatever as an early access game, but it definitely is. 226 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,960 There are so many things in this game that are 227 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:02,720 just totally busted and it's like there's no way anyone. 228 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,919 Speaker 3: Tested this like this. This UI, I. 229 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Think, in particular, has a lot of issues. For example, 230 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,360 you know, in my Kingdom now I have like almost 231 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,840 twenty cities, which is a lot. 232 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: That is a lot, but like you haveving. 233 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:17,799 Speaker 1: To micromanaged resources in this game, Like okay, I take 234 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:19,559 the dies off this town and I'm gonna move them 235 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,480 onto this town. And to do that in this you 236 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,000 have to like click the button down twenty times, but 237 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,360 there's like a maybe a half second delay every time 238 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,320 you clicked out of the next town. So if I 239 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,879 want to put something on like the bottom town in 240 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:32,600 my Kingdom, as far as I can know, there's no 241 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,600 other way to do this other than just slowly clicking 242 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,320 down and take. And so it guess the point where 243 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,480 I don't even do it. I'm just like I'm not 244 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,200 even gonna in max this. I'm just gonna allow it. 245 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:41,799 And so there's there's all sorts of things like that 246 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:44,000 across the game where the UI is just kind of 247 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:46,879 a mess. It's crashed on PS five for me close 248 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:49,080 to ten times at this point, and it auto saves 249 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,120 every turn, so I haven't lost any progress, but it's 250 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,039 just super duper annoying. One of the lamest and weirdest 251 00:09:55,039 --> 00:09:57,120 things ever. You can't like que things in the tech tree. 252 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,759 So normally when you're picking your next text, you know 253 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,759 you like, oh, I'm going for industrialization, I'm just gonna 254 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:03,000 click on it and it's gonna go through all the 255 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,600 pass to get there. 256 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: I don't have to think about it. 257 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: You can't do that in this game, which makes no 258 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,399 sense because you can cueue buildings for towns, so like 259 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,399 the feature is there allocating resources I mentioned a total mess. 260 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,600 The buttons are also really stupid, like on on I'm 261 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,879 playing on console, as I mentioned, not not and this 262 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:21,559 has always been a PC game for me, so that's 263 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,080 taken some getting used to. I have gotten pretty comfortable 264 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,279 with it. But still if I want to like go 265 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,799 halfway across the world and click on something there, I 266 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:32,879 have to like hold left on the stick and slowly 267 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:36,120 move the cursor all the way over there. 268 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,279 Speaker 3: Is ridiculous. 269 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: And the most ridiculous part about that is the PS 270 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:42,600 five controller has like a mouse touch paddy thing, But 271 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:44,799 you know what that button does when you move around 272 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,799 your hand around on it? 273 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing? 274 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: And you know what it does when you click it 275 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,120 in like the button feature it brings up your two 276 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,480 K account linking thing, which the same game. It does that, 277 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,720 not even just on the menu. It's like insane that 278 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:00,440 And I think part of the reason why they do 279 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,440 that is because like, okay, of course this game is 280 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,559 coming on PlayStation, but also exos also switch which don't 281 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,679 have those functionalities. 282 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,759 Speaker 3: But it feels like, oh man, that you're. 283 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:12,039 Speaker 1: Really not taking advantage of like the hardware here. And 284 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,440 I also think, you know, maybe the worst of all 285 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,919 offenders is like this game is just really awful at 286 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:21,240 teaching absolutely anything about the game. And the glossary in 287 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 game doesn't work like you'll you'll search up certain things, 288 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,440 it'll give you an entry that's not related to what 289 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,120 you're looking for. 290 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: You know. 291 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I think for me, I need like, if I'm a 292 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,720 CIEV five player, what are the things I need to know? 293 00:11:32,799 --> 00:11:35,080 And it just doesn't have anything like that in the game, 294 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,120 even like for CIV six, it just doesn't teach in 295 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,679 any sort of efficient way. So my first game I played, 296 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:43,799 and I don't know how, I think it was maybe 297 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,919 like sixty or seventy turns. I did not not super 298 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,080 deep for a CIEV game. Before I ended up getting 299 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,759 TV won by a CPU, getting killed and having to restart, 300 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,120 so it's fine, but I was like, I don't know, 301 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:56,120 I'm it's not quite clicking in I'm not understanding. So 302 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:58,399 after that, I went and bingched some YouTube videos like 303 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,000 the you know, the classic like seven Things I Wish 304 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,960 I knew about Civilization seven. I watched like a handful 305 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,360 of those videos, which taught me all sorts of things 306 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:08,080 I need to know. Of course, these videos know that 307 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:10,919 people who watch watching this are most likely people who 308 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,320 played the previous SIEV games and want to know like 309 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,000 the differences. 310 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: It's that really good job of laying out some of 311 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,799 those differences. 312 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: And so I went into my next game feeling like 313 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,960 I got interested things much better. And then very soon 314 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,840 after that, it got it hooks and it's hooks in 315 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,840 me with the classic one more turn mentality thing of like, oh, I'm. 316 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: Just gonna do this one thing. I'm just gonna do 317 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,000 this one thing. 318 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: Oh, but then maybe I'll just wait until I get 319 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,559 this other city captured over here. I'll maybe just waiting 320 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:34,399 till I plat my new one, and then I can't 321 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:36,600 put it down. So now I'm like totally addicted to it. 322 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,759 So I really only played that first game where I 323 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:41,639 got bombarded. The second one that I'm still working on. 324 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,159 I'm probably like fifteen twenty hours on this one game. 325 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,080 I'm almost I think I'm almost near the end of it. 326 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,759 And then I did one more. I had a friend 327 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:51,399 over on the weekend who's a based CIV six fan, 328 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,720 and so we played like a little brainstorming single player 329 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,639 session where we just played through, you know, for probably 330 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:58,679 a couple hours, which was really fun as well to 331 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:00,159 kind of play through it with him and talk through 332 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:03,200 some of the different mechanics and stuff like that. So yeah, 333 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,480 I definitely need to critique the game for all these 334 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,440 like issues that are like, yeah, I don't want to 335 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 play early access games. I know I could have waited, 336 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,000 but you know, this is a game I want to 337 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,679 pick it up, I'm excited for, I want to check 338 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,159 it out, I want to talk about the podcast when 339 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:15,720 it's relevant. 340 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's like this game is just it's just 341 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:19,159 not finished. 342 00:13:19,159 --> 00:13:21,919 Speaker 1: And this has kind of happened more specifically with six 343 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,600 is a game that released and then like it was fine, 344 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,720 and then when it had its DLCs, it was great, 345 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,480 you know, And I think that's kind of what they're 346 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,240 going for here. Oh the last thing I wanted to 347 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,440 complain about too, monetization out the ass. There's already like 348 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:36,240 fifty sixty dollars worth of DLC in this game on 349 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,320 day one, and there's like if you link your two 350 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,240 K account you get like bonus sieves and all this 351 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:43,399 annoying stuff. It's like, this game's ninety dollars, Like, let 352 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:45,279 me just buy the game and get the content on 353 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:49,039 day one. So super duper egregious with the monetization stuff. 354 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,799 Of course, I can still play the game. It's still 355 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:53,360 a finished game, but there's obviously a lot of things 356 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:56,679 that they stripped out to just sell you already on 357 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:58,799 day one, and then also you know DLC packs to 358 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,039 come I'm sure for for years, because that's kind of 359 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,399 how they make these games, is they make like half 360 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,799 the game now and they plan to finish in three years, 361 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,559 it'll be finished and good to go. 362 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,919 Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Total War Like Warhammer. I 363 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,759 went through that when Warhammer three came out. It was 364 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,000 definitely not a finished game like it even in the 365 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:19,200 sense of like there's there's certain tools and like quality 366 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,639 of like things that they have in the second game, 367 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:22,120 and then they just aren't in the third game, and 368 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,120 it just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have them 369 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,159 in there, Like it just it's like they're going backwards 370 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:27,799 and then guess what, a couple months later they had 371 00:14:27,799 --> 00:14:31,159 them in and it's just like, man, I love these games, 372 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,559 Like I invest so many hours in I definitely get 373 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:35,600 my money's worth out of them. But like same thing, 374 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:39,639 the DLCs are egregious, and the price of the DLCs 375 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,720 are like higher now than they've ever been. Like they 376 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:44,399 released one DLC, it was like thirty dollars DLC and 377 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,080 it came with like two different races, which is like insane. 378 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,159 In Warhammer two they had one it was a whole 379 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,399 new faction with like five different leaders that you could play, 380 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,000 and it was fifteen dollars like DLC like out out 381 00:14:57,039 --> 00:14:59,320 of the gate. So it's definitely just ramping up. And 382 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:03,960 like the egregious forms. Paradox is that the game studio 383 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,919 that do those four x ones, do you know, like 384 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,919 Stilaris and Europa universalis. 385 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: Well that's kind of sounds right. 386 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing as well there where 387 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,159 like you if you subscribe to their whatever monthly thing, 388 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,000 like you get access to all the DLC, which is 389 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,639 kind of a nice thing to have because they do 390 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:24,759 have like four hundred plus DLCs, but still it's like 391 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,399 just the collectithon of collecting these DLCs and people that 392 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 have them in the past, it's just, uh, yeah, it's 393 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:33,559 it's it's a it's a frustration when when you have 394 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:38,399 these especially like the like the big ips. I knew 395 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,399 about the SIEV six release and how it wasn't the hottest, 396 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,919 but yeah, I went through it with Warhammer and it's 397 00:15:44,919 --> 00:15:46,879 it's just like when when they have a game that 398 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,039 like the based game engine is already established, but they're 399 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,559 just like like releasing like the next in the series. 400 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,320 It's just it feels like they never have good releases 401 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,720 for some reason. They're just never complete, and it's, uh, 402 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,440 it's frustrated. Even though we love these games, it's still 403 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,159 frustrating and worthy of a mentioned. 404 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's some crazy stuff. For like, even in 405 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,399 the first few days, they've had quite a few patches 406 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:12,240 to fix and improve, like UI and other things like that. 407 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,240 It's like, did you not know about these issues until 408 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:17,639 the game was released and people told you about this feedback, Like, 409 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:20,720 don't you get thousands of people to test this game 410 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:23,519 when it comes out, so I don't know. It's obviously 411 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:25,000 when you release a game, you're gonna have a lot 412 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,879 more eyes on it than any amount of play testing 413 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,279 ever could. And so of course there's naturally gonna be 414 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,000 things that people are gonna pick up the others haven't. 415 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:33,480 But some of these things do feel especially egregious. And 416 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,120 I think one of the problems here too is like 417 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,799 I was excited with that same friend who came over 418 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,240 we were originally talking about doing He was gonna pick 419 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:41,600 up the game too, and we were gonna do some 420 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,200 cross platform play, which is the things imported in this game. 421 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,360 But they had to kick it out of cross platform 422 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:50,799 play because they can upgrade the PC version of the 423 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:54,360 game quicker, so it's getting more it's multiple patches ahead now, 424 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:56,960 I guess of the PlayStation version because that the cross 425 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,200 play is wonking doesn't work, so they've just like disabled 426 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,000 that for the time being. 427 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: So that's incredibly. 428 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,519 Speaker 1: Stupid, Like I hotly hate that's. 429 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: That's not good. 430 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: So anyway, there's my you know, there's the whole the 431 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,319 things that you should need to know. My suggestion would be, 432 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,880 don't buy this game yet, even though I love it 433 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,799 and I'm really enjoying it. Wait, it'll be cheaper eventually, 434 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,480 and it'll be more finished, and then you can maybe 435 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,359 even add on some DLC packs if you want to 436 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,960 pay a little bit extra. But I don't see any reason, 437 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,319 you know, with a little greed here to pick up 438 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,279 the game right now, even though it's really good. Like 439 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,759 just go go place it five That would be my 440 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:31,400 suggestion for I don't know, twenty bucks with all the DLCs, 441 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,640 I don't know what you can get it for now 442 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:34,839 and come back to this game at a later date. 443 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,599 That would be my general suggestion. But you know, do 444 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,440 whatever you want. I bought the game. I'm having a 445 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,640 good time, so that's all I can say with that. 446 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,480 I think, you know, right off the bat, visuals, as 447 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,519 I mentioned, such a big part of these games for me. 448 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:50,200 With other games, I think it's kind of can come 449 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:51,599 or go. It's like, if I'm there for the game play, 450 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:53,640 I don't really care what looks like and say, if 451 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,000 you know, I'm there for the strategy primarily. But I 452 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:59,000 for me, it really is fun to nerd out about 453 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,759 these different civilization and the historical aspect of it. And 454 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:06,279 looking at all these the world wonders or these different 455 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,440 you know, certain military units that different civilizations had through history. 456 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,559 Like I think that the visuals to me, is such 457 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:14,400 an important part, and as I mentioned, that was maybe 458 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,480 one of the reasons why. 459 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: I bounced a bit off of six. 460 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: And this feels like it is going back to a 461 00:18:18,759 --> 00:18:21,880 bit more as CIV five art style, a little more simplistic, 462 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,039 which is honestly kind of what I want. Really lush, 463 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,119 like beautiful colors, like the water looks great, and man, 464 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:31,799 just like as your cities are expanding and more and 465 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:33,880 more of the buildings are kind of cruising out across 466 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,519 the lands and you're filminating with farms. It's a game 467 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,000 that like every once in a while, I'll just stop, 468 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:40,880 I'll zoom in and I'll just like slowly pan around 469 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,960 my kingdom and I'm like looking at the farms and 470 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,440 you can see little chickens playing around, or like go 471 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:47,519 to the sawmill and you can see like an excavator 472 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,720 like pulling dirt out of the ground and moving it around, 473 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:52,400 and it's just it's like birds flying around all these 474 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,839 like beautiful little details. It's like a cute little diorama thing. 475 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,400 But then it's like a big, you know, complicated four 476 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:00,559 X strategy game, you know, but I like that there's 477 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,440 kind of that level to it, so, you know, absolutely 478 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,039 gorgeous game. 479 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: I love the visuals of it. Music is, you know, 480 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,440 completely fine. 481 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: I haven't really listened to it much because there's just 482 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,079 not much going on and it's not really a game 483 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,799 you need audio four otherwise. 484 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, me let me talk through. 485 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: So, as I mentioned that first game, I kind of 486 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,240 got bombarded to V one by CPUs, got absolutely wrecked, 487 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:24,440 so you know, that didn't go great for me. But 488 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,400 then my other one has now been quite a lengthy game. 489 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,319 So one of the big changes here with the mechanics 490 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,880 in this game compared to every other Save game. Also, 491 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,759 I guess a quick four warning for anyone who's like 492 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:38,279 a big six Sieve six die hard fan. I might 493 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,000 think some things are new to this game that we're 494 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,839 actually in SIF six that I just never encountered that 495 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:43,680 I didn't get as into that game, So just a 496 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,720 fair warning. But here's something I know is definitely new 497 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:47,519 is at the start of the game, rather than picking 498 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:49,839 I'm gonna play as Egypt and you get I don't 499 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,440 know whoever the you know, Cleopatra or something you know, 500 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:54,960 instead of like that. Instead, in this game, you pick 501 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:58,279 your leader and then you also pick your starting SIEV separately. 502 00:19:58,599 --> 00:20:01,599 So I picked Benjamin Franklin for this play through, who 503 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,799 has a certain list of abilities and perks that he has. 504 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,039 But then I was playing as Rome, and so Rome 505 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,880 also comes in with multiple yeah the way the way, 506 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,880 it's quite it's kind of both of them have like 507 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,279 their own perks. Of course, Rome also comes with like, oh, 508 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:16,319 you get like the Roman Legion as like a specific 509 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,200 military unit. You get like the Roman I don't know, 510 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:22,039 coliseum or some some specific improvements. So you get like 511 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:25,079 specific buildings and units by picking your sieve and maybe 512 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,680 other stat resource bonuses. But then your leader has like 513 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,319 certain different bonuses on top of that. 514 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,039 Speaker 3: So I think one that's going to add some. 515 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,759 Speaker 1: Good replayability of like mixing and matching different combos in 516 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:36,799 terms of how you want to play style it out. 517 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,480 So that was how I started my game, and yeah, 518 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,480 I think you know, early on it was a classic thing. 519 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,920 I was kind of spreading out, scoping out my opponents, 520 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,599 trying to find people putting out different territories. I was 521 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,240 I got to a good point where like I kind 522 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,839 of insulated my capital with like a city down south, 523 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,759 city up north, and city out west, and then I 524 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:54,799 was kind of on the coast and then just kind 525 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:57,599 of backfilling like additional cities that were, you know, not 526 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,039 going to be as close proximity to other cieves so 527 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:03,000 they weren't as much of an issue there, kind of 528 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,640 just filling out my land. All is going well there, 529 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:09,559 and then eventually in this game, the eras are kind 530 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:11,480 of split out into three sections. So you start in 531 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,640 the Antiquity era, and that's kind of what the game 532 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,039 plays like. You're spreading out, You're kind of defining borders, 533 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,160 building out your cities, maybe you get some early wars 534 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,519 in there. And then eventually, once you get far enough 535 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:23,079 in the game, you'll go into the Exploration era, and 536 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,440 everyone goes there at the exact same time. So rather 537 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,519 than like, oh, this guy's way ahead in tech, he's 538 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:29,759 kind of way generations ahead of me, it kind of 539 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:32,680 balances out because everyone moves into the same generation at 540 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,559 the same time, and at that point it kind of 541 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:38,240 turns into like more about exploring the whole world. That's 542 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:40,599 kind of when you're gonna be getting the ability to 543 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:43,880 traverse oceans with your boats at that point in time. 544 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:45,559 So then it kind of turns into like, Okay, I'm 545 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:50,160 gonna go find undiscovered lands other islands and things like that. 546 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,880 And I was so far ahead of these other players 547 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,759 it was insane. 548 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: There was like this huge chain of islands kind of 549 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,240 going all. 550 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,519 Speaker 1: From south to north on the map, and one of 551 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,359 my opponents grabbed one of them, and then I grabbed 552 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,720 like every other island, and then they even like backfilled 553 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,359 a couple more to the point where I almost have 554 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,400 complete border control of like an almost the entire south 555 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,799 to northern peak of the entire map, so I almost 556 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,640 have like it just blocked off, so people cannot progress 557 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,160 at all across there. 558 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: Uh. And that's something I really love. 559 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,279 Speaker 1: About this is like in CIV five, it always felt 560 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,119 like a huge investment to put a new city out there, 561 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,559 because I mean, one, if it was in like some 562 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:30,680 weird random island that doesn't have a lot of territory, 563 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,359 it just takes a long time to get it built 564 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,279 up to a point where it's like functioning and doing 565 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,200 stuff on its own. And then whenever you build out 566 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,920 a city, it like creates. 567 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,319 Speaker 3: Like kingdom wide. Unhappiness makes other things harder to build. 568 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,599 It takes like get upgrades, these. 569 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: Kind of things, and so you almost like in five 570 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,960 most of the time, I'm just going for like four 571 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,880 really big cities and that's it, and then like maybe 572 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,839 a couple later on, or you know, there's different play 573 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:54,799 styles and that sort of thing. 574 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,839 Speaker 3: But I feel like this game is. 575 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Really encouraging you to build more and more cities, to 576 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,279 the point like now I literally have like which is insane. 577 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,119 I don't think I've ever had that many in a 578 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920 Sieve game. And it's because when you are settling in 579 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,519 this game, you actually start by you put a settlement 580 00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:12,160 down and it starts as a town, and so it's 581 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,759 like a smaller city. You can't actually control what it's building. 582 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,480 You can, if you have money, you can buy certain 583 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,799 buildings like a granary, like an iron works, that kind 584 00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:23,279 of thing, but otherwise it's just gonna grow. It's gonna 585 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,079 grow the territory out, and you can you can buy 586 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:28,960 things for it. Of course, your borders are there, so 587 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,039 you're claiming your own land, but you kind of have 588 00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:33,759 a little bit less control over it. And then production, 589 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440 which is normally the resource that goes into building buildings 590 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 instead just turns into gold for those towns. So now 591 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,599 it's just building up money so you can use that 592 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,960 money to then buy buildings out. 593 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: So it's just like a little bit different. 594 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: But you can kind of just foster a town over time, 595 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000 and you might get there might be certain towns where 596 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:51,960 even it's been around for a long time and I 597 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,880 might never even just upgrade it. I might just leave 598 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,279 it as a town forever because it's just not really 599 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,559 gonna be a big production house. I'd rather just like 600 00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:00,759 make money from it and like claim border and use 601 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:02,319 it as a place where my units can go and 602 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,599 heal up and that sort of thing. And that's also 603 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,440 why it makes it so much easier to like expand 604 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,839 onto islands and things like that, because it doesn't matter 605 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,160 if you have a ton of land to build on 606 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,039 and get a huge production stack so you can start 607 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,599 building all sorts of stuff. It's like fine, if you're 608 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,920 just chilling there, it's not gonna you do get like 609 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,000 unhappiness de buffs and things. 610 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Like that if you build too much. 611 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,039 Speaker 1: But I like way past that unhappiness de buff and 612 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:28,519 I still have an insane amount of like positive happiness 613 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:30,160 built at this point. So I don't know exactly how 614 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,240 all the math works on it yet, And in the 615 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,119 same way I could explain, like, oh, and SIEV five 616 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,640 when you put it down, you get four on happiness 617 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,000 right away, and then you get one happiness added on 618 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:38,920 for each population. Like I don't know all the numbers 619 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,720 of how it works, but it just feels like a 620 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,720 lot more free form. And that's such a fun part 621 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,839 about SIEV is just like putting cities down. 622 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: It's simple, but it's really fun. 623 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: And then once you get enough gold, you can just 624 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:51,680 buy that town into a city. And so obviously the 625 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,799 towns are producing extra gold on their own, so they're 626 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 kind of feeding themselves into getting to that point. But 627 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,319 then also you can kind of pick and choose which 628 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,119 ones you want to upgrade at different times, and as 629 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,119 I said, you can leave them in a certain state. 630 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,960 So it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna leave that as 631 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,839 a small town and maybe it don't even grow, maybe 632 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:07,319 it'll become a big town, but it never needs to 633 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,119 upgrade to a city. 634 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: I don't need to worry about that. I can just 635 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:09,799 leave it. 636 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,319 Speaker 1: And that's also one less thing for you to do 637 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,319 as a player, one less thing to micromanage because you 638 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,799 can just let it chill there and hang out. And 639 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,000 I think that's a really great change. I think it's 640 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,279 really fun, it's really engaging. One of the things that's 641 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:21,759 kind of weird, though, is when you go from those 642 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,359 different eras, So from an antiquity era, now everyone's an 643 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,160 exploration era. Your capital stays as a city, but then 644 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,559 like everything else gets demoted again back to town, and 645 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:32,160 then you have to like build up again what you 646 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,880 want to turn into city. So I guess that's just 647 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,799 like the scale of it, right, It's like, okay, now 648 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:38,640 that I was considered kind of a city, but now 649 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,680 it's small by the standards that we measure here. So 650 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:44,160 I don't know how I feel about that yet. We'll 651 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,160 see how that goes, but so far, it's like, Okay, 652 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,880 once I'm in at antiquity era anyway, I'm making so 653 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960 much money that it's like pretty easy for me to 654 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:55,519 quickly promote all of these again back up to city status. 655 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,960 So yeah, that's a really interesting change that I think 656 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,039 is really really cool. And that was a really fun. 657 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: Era for me. 658 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,039 Speaker 1: He's exploring all those islands and I got to a 659 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:07,039 point where to get a certain bonus objective thing, I 660 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,160 had to claim a certain on towns, and that's why 661 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,880 I was building so many. But then I can also 662 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,160 get bonuses by taking out other towns, and so I 663 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,559 was like, you know, I got it. I don't want 664 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,119 to build any more towns, So let me go take 665 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480 out this city state. They're they're weak, they're undefended, they're 666 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,119 on their own. I can take them out pretty easily. 667 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,559 I did that, but unfortunately he was allied by like 668 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,759 another sieve. So then that sieve declared war on me. Instantly, 669 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,640 I'm like I was not prepared for war, but like fisticuffs, 670 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,680 let's go. And so me and this guy duked it out. 671 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:34,039 He had another town on like the near those island 672 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:35,519 changs I was in, and I was like, oh, this 673 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,039 is actually perfect because this is going to be that 674 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,359 last town I need to connect a huge island chain. 675 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,400 So I took out his city there. Yeah, and then 676 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,759 and then his capital was nearby and it was like 677 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:46,480 on the coast. I had a ton of boats. So 678 00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,400 I took out his capital claimed it for my own. 679 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,960 And then at that point I was like, yeah, you 680 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,400 want peace, now let's go let's let's declare peace. 681 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm done with you. I don't want to 682 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,640 do it anymore. 683 00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,279 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was kind of like an impromptu 684 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,359 war that happened because of this connection with the city State, 685 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,799 which was kind of a thing. And then pretty soon 686 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,279 after that is when we progressed into the modern era. 687 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,319 And so the modern era is kind of now now 688 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,240 you're going for your win condition. Now you're trying to 689 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:12,960 get that clinch out that victory. So there's different ones. 690 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,799 Of course, there's like war victory, which would be like 691 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,440 killing all the other players. But there's also another one 692 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,920 now which is just like, I don't know, you not 693 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359 necessarily killing everyone, but just doing enough military I guess, 694 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,960 to have enough of a presence you can get a 695 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 win without a straight out kill, which I think is 696 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,839 an interesting change. The science one's the same as always. 697 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,559 It's the space race, build the spaceship parts, be the 698 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:33,880 first one of land on the moon. Then you get 699 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,880 the science of victory. There's an economic victory, which I 700 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,119 don't really understand yet, and then there's a cultural victory, 701 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,039 which I also don't really understand fully yet. But I 702 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:47,160 think the game does a really good job of throughout 703 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,039 the eras. There's the wind condition right when you're in 704 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,400 the modern era, but the other eras have not they're 705 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,680 not win conditions, but there's their goals for you to 706 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,759 go towards, and then you'll get bonuses going into the 707 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,640 next age. And so it's good because it kind of 708 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,880 incentive advises you to be thinking about these different elements 709 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,200 of the game. Make sure you have a good economy, 710 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,279 you're not fall behind, and signs you have good culture, 711 00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:07,519 you're keeping up with your army and all that stuff. 712 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,640 So it's giving you incentives along the way and different 713 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,279 goals for each of the different eras, and so it 714 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000 kind of gives you a little bit more direction. You're 715 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,680 even getting like quests on top of that to like 716 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,599 build certain things or do certain exploration goals. 717 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: So I feel like the game is giving you a 718 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,119 lot more direction. 719 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,839 Speaker 1: I do wonder how if that's going to make the 720 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,079 game feel samey on repeat playthroughs, because now, like the 721 00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:30,720 early game of SIEV, normally it's like, well you're win 722 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,599 right now, like you just all you're trying to do 723 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:32,920 is like. 724 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: Build a spaceship and let that just takes thousands of years. 725 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: So it's going to take a while, but now you 726 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,279 have like incremental goals, and so we'll see if those 727 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,240 make the game feel a bit too samey. You can 728 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,279 also just start in Modern era or Exploration era if 729 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:46,000 you want, if you want a shorter game or just 730 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400 want to explore those mechanics more, you can like skip 731 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160 right to those and start a game from those points. 732 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,400 So that's interesting. And then as I mentioned with at 733 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720 the start, how I picked Ben Franklin and was Rome. 734 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,519 Speaker 3: With each era you actually. 735 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,319 Speaker 1: Progress into a new sieve, you always keep Ben Franklin, 736 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:01,519 so I don't know how this guy's been alive for 737 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,240 thousands of years. But now I went from Rome in 738 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:08,359 Exploration Era, I changed into Spain, and then from there 739 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240 I went into France with the Modern era. 740 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:11,839 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like the. 741 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:13,599 Speaker 1: Idea how there's like you know, the Mayans or the 742 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Aztecs and stuff, which is kind of like modern day 743 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,680 Mexico and like South America and stuff like that. 744 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,519 Speaker 3: So it's kind of that idea of like civilizations kind of. 745 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Changing or revolving over time are being kind of brought 746 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,400 into other ones, and that's kind of like almost like 747 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,839 a skill tree, I guess, and the way you go 748 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920 about it, and certain ones you just get by default, 749 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,839 so like Ben Franklin, you'll always have access to America 750 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:34,880 in the modern era. But then other ones, it's like, oh, 751 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,039 you have to complete certain goals, you have to build 752 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,680 like five towns on rivers, and then y'all knock this 753 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,640 sieve that's known for having you know, river a lot 754 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,680 of control rivers. 755 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: And things like that. 756 00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:48,839 Speaker 1: Right, so really interesting, we'll have to remain wait and see. 757 00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:50,319 I think it's the thing a lot of people didn't 758 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,720 really like about this game, because like they want to 759 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,720 live that fantasy of like civilization and like I'll want 760 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,640 people to be locked to the civilization that they're from 761 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,279 and stuff like that. 762 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: But I think. 763 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,799 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting idea and I think it'll just, 764 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,400 if anything, add more variety to games. 765 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: And now this rather than. 766 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,799 Speaker 1: Just you know that would happen too, Like maybe you'd 767 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,200 pick Egypt or something in CIV five and maybe they 768 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680 have like a really early game military unit that's good 769 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,559 and that's awesome for the early game, but then by 770 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,480 like modern era, that unit, you know, has been outclassed 771 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,480 one hundred times over. It's now like, okay, your unique 772 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,200 unit's like not really a thing anymore. But now in 773 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,920 every area you're gonna have unique buildings and unique units 774 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,000 to keep you going and make you give you a 775 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,799 little more variety. So I think it's pretty cool. I'm 776 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:33,440 into the idea and with this game, I think it's 777 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,720 been a fun journey, and I think it makes it 778 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,319 a bit more memorable too, like that specific journey of 779 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,279 going from Rome, going up to Spain and then eventually 780 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:43,519 over to France. They're just based on what I'm trying 781 00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:45,279 to do, what my goals are for each each of 782 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,680 these ages, So I think it's a really cool idea. 783 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,079 It's something that's that's working for me at this point 784 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:51,519 in time. And I'm still trying to get used to 785 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,119 the how much things reset when those new eras pop 786 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,759 as I mentioned, getting your cities demoted and other things 787 00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:58,839 changed too, and some of your units get like moved around, 788 00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:00,759 and I don't know, there's it almost feels like it's 789 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:02,960 starting a fresh game, even though obviously it's the same map, 790 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:05,440 so a little confusing on how all some of that works. 791 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,559 But overall, I think it's a really interesting, cool change 792 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:09,920 and I'm liking it so far. 793 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I it sounds so foreign of an idea to 794 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:16,680 like be able to have a different ruler with like 795 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400 a different civilization, because that's just such a CIV thing, 796 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000 you know, like if you're if you're playing as Gandhi, 797 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,359 like you're you're getting India, like like you know, you 798 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,920 know the pairings. So I like the I guess, just 799 00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,559 very variability that you can get, because then you can 800 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,279 get a faction with specific bonuses paired up with, you know, 801 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:38,079 a civilization that has specific pros and cons. At least 802 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,480 that's how I remember it being. And SIV I famously 803 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,359 have only really played Beyond Earth the the less of 804 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,319 all the CIEV games, but for whatever reason, that one latched, 805 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,599 it hooks onto me. But no, it's it's it's really 806 00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,119 interesting just hearing I guess the evolutions of the game 807 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,799 and what they're switching up. And of course with anything 808 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,759 like that, there's going to be people that love it 809 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,240 and hate it, and I I get that with Warhammer. 810 00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,359 You know, when Warhammer three, they introduced some really great 811 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880 things and change some things that I was really not 812 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,599 fond of, to the point that I was like, they're 813 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,799 gonna change this back, Like I was just in disbelief 814 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:11,559 I'm like, there's no way that they're keeping this, and 815 00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,759 then they ended up keeping it, and then look at 816 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,559 that now. I like that change more so than the 817 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:17,599 old one. I kind of just was a stubborn guy 818 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,000 and took me a while to accept the new mechanic. 819 00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:21,960 But I mean that's just what you have to get 820 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,240 when you are, you know, evolving on the game and 821 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,400 trying to make it new and unique. And yeah, like, 822 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,359 how do you feel about the fact that you all 823 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,480 kind of evolve at the same time. I guess because 824 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,839 that's always famously been like a big race, you know, 825 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,400 if you can get ahead of the game, like your 826 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000 major advantage over your counterparts. 827 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think. 828 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: It's almost like a Mario Kart mechanic, right where like 829 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,640 in Mario Kart, they'll, you know, no matter how far 830 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,119 ahead you'll get, like they'll rubber band the CPUs give 831 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:52,319 them additional speed to make. 832 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,039 Speaker 3: Them catch up with you. 833 00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's kind of what it's doing. 834 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,319 But there is still that thing of like, let's say 835 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,400 I'm going like in this game, for example, some of 836 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,960 the other stats people have been close to me on 837 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,079 but like science, I am way ahead. I am so 838 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,000 far ahead in the science thing, and so it'll get 839 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920 to a point where, like I don't know, even though 840 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,720 we all progress with the modern era together, because I 841 00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:14,880 had discovered all of those techs earlier than my opponents, 842 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,240 I was able to build the ironworks at that time earlier. 843 00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,039 So now going to the next era, even though they 844 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:21,960 have that tech now, even though they didn't research it 845 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240 on their own, but they got it for free. Because 846 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:26,559 we all progress to the next era, I still have 847 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,119 already have the leg up because all these things I discovered, 848 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,839 I've been able to implement for like fifty additional turns 849 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,519 or something like. 850 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: That, Right, So I think, I don't think. I guess. 851 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,799 Speaker 1: The other part of it, too, is like I'm still 852 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,640 trying to figure out this mechanic, but the way when 853 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,799 it kicks into the next age is kind of based 854 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,680 on how the overall players are doing. So, like, let's 855 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,200 say there's one hundred points one hundred age points that 856 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,039 need to be hit for everyone to progress that next age, 857 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,240 but that's going to be a cumulative number. So maybe 858 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,519 I can only get I don't know, thirty or fifty 859 00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,720 of those age points by getting really far in the 860 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:03,200 tech tree, getting really far in civics and culture, and 861 00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:06,039 like it'll take other players also getting far maybe the 862 00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:09,159 economic tree or the military tree for us to overall, 863 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,599 as like a world, get those points enough pushed up 864 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,719 to get to that next point. So I'm sure you 865 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,599 could definitely have runaway wins. And I kind of feel 866 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:18,199 like that's what this is here. I'm not playing on 867 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,199 the highest difficulty, so I think it's just a bit 868 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,239 easier than it normally would be, I guess, And that's 869 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,480 one of the reasons why I'm. 870 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: So far ahead. 871 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,039 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a bad thing. I guess 872 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,599 to give these people a chance at least to catch up. 873 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,119 Although there are even certain things, like I was laughing. 874 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:34,960 There was these two sieves that were next to me. 875 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,360 They kept trying to both ally with me, and I 876 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,000 was like, yeah, I'll ally with you. But then they 877 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,440 were going at war against each other and They're like, 878 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,480 do you want to come help me in this war? 879 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,880 And I'm like, no, not really, so I'm gonna un 880 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,360 ally with you, well re ally again later. I don't 881 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,519 really want to be part of this war. I gonna 882 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:48,239 let you guys go about it. And one of them 883 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,719 had like open borders with me, so I could see 884 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,599 all these units are running through my territory go fight 885 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,480 the enemy, which did freak me out a bit because 886 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,400 I'm like, I don't like all these people in my cities, 887 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,559 but like, I think we're good because we have twenty 888 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,360 trade deals right now, so if you went against me, 889 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,000 that would be a huge detriment to you and not 890 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:03,039 a big detrim to me. But he had like you know, 891 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:05,119 sword fighters and stuff am out here with like guns 892 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,480 and whatnots. Like I was like way ahead of this guy, 893 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,760 but now that we're all kicked in the modern era, 894 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,119 all his stuff gets promoted for free, I'm pretty sure 895 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,360 to the next day, Like there's maybe some degree of 896 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400 separation there. I'm not exactly sure how it all works, 897 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719 but in general, I think it's fine. I'm curious how 898 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,519 people will feel about it in like a multiplayer game setting. 899 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Like the people with a competitive but that's not me. 900 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:27,679 Speaker 1: I'm only ever gonna play this game against computers. Or 901 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,800 we're like with a personal friend where maybe there's two 902 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,360 or three of us at most and we're doing a game, 903 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,000 or we're probably not even gonna finish it. We're probably 904 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,960 just gonna play for one night. And then never dodged 905 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,280 that safe again, you know. So yeah, I'm totally fine 906 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000 with it so far. I think it's interesting and different. 907 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,360 But yeah, I think it's just gonna take a few 908 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,159 more games of seeing how that all goes. 909 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it has been. 910 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,039 Speaker 1: It's because there's those multiple objectives, like you are kind 911 00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,199 of incentivized to have really good stats of everything and 912 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,760 not just be the science guy, because if you want 913 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,840 to progress that age sooner and get further into the 914 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,559 science tech tree, you're gonna need points all those other 915 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,559 things too. You're gonna have some military presence, some of 916 00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:05,320 that economic power in order to push that age forward 917 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719 even into the modern air before you can even take 918 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,079 advantage of that science lead that you have. So I 919 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,079 think there is you know, probably some pro and concert 920 00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:16,000 but overall, I think it's a pretty interesting system. The 921 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,440 other thing too, I guess with the towns, as I mentioned, 922 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,280 you PLoP a town down, eventually you can upgrade it 923 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,880 to a city. 924 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: I really like that. 925 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: And then I think the what they've done with city 926 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400 states is interesting too, where that's always been like it's 927 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,480 kind of like a one one city sieve that's kind 928 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,320 of spread around the map, and you can kind of 929 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,039 be friends with them and they'll ally with you in 930 00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,320 war or give you certain resources and stuff like that. 931 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,639 Those change a lot through the eras. So like I noticed, 932 00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:40,719 when we progressed to the Exploration era, all the ones 933 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,360 that we existed in that first era just like disappear 934 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,079 off the map, and then like new ones got planted 935 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,760 down in different places. So those friendships I built were 936 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000 now like removed from the game, but then there was 937 00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,400 new ones I could go get, so kind of weird. 938 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,960 Feels kind of strange. But then also if I had 939 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,280 befriended that city state and then I spent points to 940 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,400 turn it into one of my cities and for them 941 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,760 in my sieve, well now obviously I still keep that city, 942 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,159 So that's something that feels a little bit weird, but 943 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,559 we'll see how that goes. I think they also one 944 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,679 thing they've done is like it's gonna be a SIF 945 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,679 six thing once again, but really simplifying just the growth 946 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:17,360 of each city. So now like whenever you get whenever 947 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,159 you hit that food cap, you get a new population, 948 00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,199 you can spread your borders out and grab a new tile, 949 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,800 and then you'll you'll get the rewards from that tile, 950 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,800 like let's say it gives you three food or production 951 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,880 or something like that. Like if there's a mind to 952 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,559 be built there, it'll automatically build that mind when you expand. 953 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,760 So it kind of takes that mechanic normally of like 954 00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,199 your borders are expanding naturally, you can also pay to 955 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,000 expand them, and then you have to upgrade and improve 956 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:39,920 certain resources. And now that's kind of all in one, 957 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,159 which I like. It makes it much more impactful decision. 958 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,519 And then on top of that, you're building, you know, 959 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480 building buildings on these different tiles too, and so you're 960 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,559 kind of mixing and matching the two. It's something that 961 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,039 I really enjoy. The districts I think are really cool. 962 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,079 In SIF six, it would be like I'm gonna build 963 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,159 the military district, and then you pick a tile you 964 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:01,320 want to do that, and then you build a bunch 965 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,079 of military buildings within that one district, or there'd be 966 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,360 like the economic district stuff like that, whereas in this 967 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,840 game it's a little bit more free form. You can 968 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,000 just put up the two buildings on each tile and 969 00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:12,199 it will form a district of its own, and so 970 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,440 you can go for like certain bonuses certain buildings are 971 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,320 good with each other, or you can just kind of 972 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,719 spread them out far and wide if you want to 973 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,719 expand your borders and range and stuff like that too. 974 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,119 So some interesting mechanics going on there. I really call 975 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,719 that stuff. In terms of like the resources, that's kind 976 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,039 of the same as it's always been. You got your 977 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,199 food and your production, which your main ones. You got 978 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,440 your happiness over there. I think the water resources are 979 00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,599 much more better implemented. And siviviv in particular, it was 980 00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,239 such a like awful thing to do because normally you'd 981 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400 have your worker it'd go around, they build a mine, 982 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,679 and then they go over build a road, they go 983 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,719 over build another mine. But like if you wanted to 984 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480 improve a water resource like fish or pearls or something, 985 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,440 you have to like build a boat, send the boat 986 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,079 out there, and then the boat would get like used, 987 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,320 it'd be like a one time use thing rather than 988 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,880 it being like a worker boat that would go and 989 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,199 improve multiple things. And in this because of the expansion thing, 990 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,000 they've just made it like a lot simpler, it's a 991 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,639 lot better. Uh So I think that's that's good. They've 992 00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,239 kind of balanced out those things. And then influence is 993 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,119 kind I think this was in CIF six, but influence 994 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:11,000 is kind of a new resource. You're accumulating influence in 995 00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,400 the same way accumulating other stuff, and that's what you're 996 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360 using to like work with these city states, and that's 997 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,320 also what you're using for. 998 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,559 Speaker 3: Trade deals with other sieves. 999 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: And it's like it's a really I found in the 1000 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,480 early game, and in particular really tricky to balance that 1001 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:26,119 because you'll have people denouncing you and stuff, and like 1002 00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:29,119 if you want to cancel some of those debuffs, you 1003 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,519 have to like spend your influence. You got to make 1004 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,000 sure you have some of the bank because like you 1005 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,199 can't just okay, I'll come back to this in three turns, 1006 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:35,920 like you have to deal with it right now, and 1007 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 especially when you're trying to capture city states and all 1008 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:39,880 this other stuff. It's it's I found that it's a 1009 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,519 really fun resource to try and balance. So that's a 1010 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,920 really great addition. Other than that, some other new things, 1011 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,800 like there's there's masteries in the tech trees, so as 1012 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,760 you're going through and grabbing industrialization, for example, there might 1013 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,119 be like industrialization plus. So once you've got industrialization, you 1014 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:56,079 can go back and get the extra tier and it'll 1015 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,280 give you some other like smaller bonus it's maybe related 1016 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,239 to the thing you got, or you could just keep 1017 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,559 blasting down the tech tree. So that's you know, good 1018 00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:07,360 change and a little more variety there. What else do 1019 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,760 I want to say about this thing right here? I 1020 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760 think maybe one of the last big things a new 1021 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,519 thing as well, is combat is potentially a lot better 1022 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,280 because of one simple change, which is that they've implemented 1023 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,000 army commanders is what they call them, So an army 1024 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,199 commander is like a leader of army. They've had like 1025 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,760 generals and stuff before, but now the way army commander 1026 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,400 works is you have one army commander on the map, 1027 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,360 and you can take multiple units and like all put 1028 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,519 them all on one tile with. 1029 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 3: That army commander. 1030 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: So now you can move like six units at a 1031 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,360 time with one movement of a commander instead of you know, 1032 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,840 requiring you to move you know, six people one time, 1033 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,519 which is something that slows the game down massively, especially 1034 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,559 in the late game, which is why I normally hate 1035 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:47,800 the endgame of Sieves. Just moving all these units around 1036 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,280 it's so annoying it takes forever. But now you can 1037 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,760 kind of lug them all around as one. As one 1038 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,000 and the commander can also issue the attacks, so you 1039 00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:56,760 can say, like attack this tile and then everyone will 1040 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,760 go and spend the resources to go do it. So 1041 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,800 it just makes everything move a lot quicker. It's really cool. 1042 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,360 So I'm really liking that change. 1043 00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:03,679 Speaker 2: You know. 1044 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: It's can also move like on rivers now, so normally 1045 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,239 they would have like cross the rover be a slow thing, 1046 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,760 but you can also like move boats and stuff along rivers. 1047 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,079 That also changes like a lot with combat where maybe 1048 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,400 there's a city you want to build your cities on rivers, 1049 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,239 but also got to be careful now because like boats 1050 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,039 can use that if they want to attack you like 1051 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,920 fly in some big battalion battleships and fly them down 1052 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,599 your rivers right to get to your city. 1053 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 3: So that's a really cool change. It adds a lot. 1054 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: Also really changes how you're moving around the map maneuvering 1055 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,039 units and things like that as well. So, uh, those 1056 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,360 are some good changes. And then there's there's a lot 1057 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,039 of things I don't understand yet. I don't really get 1058 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,199 how religion works in this game. There's like in CIVI six, 1059 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,360 there's like a global warming system. I don't know if 1060 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,000 that's just not in here. If that's something, they're probably 1061 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960 gonna add it, as DLC would be my guess. Five 1062 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,840 I had like a big tourism system. I can't tell 1063 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,920 if that exists here. 1064 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 3: Trading. 1065 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,679 Speaker 1: I barely have traded in this game at all with 1066 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,199 people like I don't don't really understand it very well. 1067 00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,360 And then I know something CIVI six had similar to 1068 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,760 global warming. There's like floods and sandstorms of volcanoes erupting 1069 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,480 that will like destroy some of your tiles and stuff, 1070 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,800 and that stuff is in here, and I like it, 1071 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,519 but I also feel like, man, I'm getting like getting 1072 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,440 hit by a flood like every three or four turns, 1073 00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,119 which just eats a ton of my resources, and I 1074 00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:13,840 don't know if there's anything you can do to stop it, 1075 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,239 or if it's just luck of the draw you just 1076 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,039 get bobbed for a few turns. Or Whereas like plagues and 1077 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,960 sandstorms are at least a lot more rare, they do occur, 1078 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,800 and they'll do like, man, if a plague comes through 1079 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,119 your city, oh my god, you get absolutely destroyed, and 1080 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,440 as far as I can tell, there's nothing you can 1081 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,239 do until like much later on in the game when 1082 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,119 you get like physicians as like a unit, which is 1083 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,559 like way down the tech tree. So yeah, there's a 1084 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,519 lot of things I still don't understand about this game. 1085 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:38,400 But but yeah, those those, all those little changes like 1086 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,880 those are the kind of things I'm looking for. And 1087 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,199 I feel like they've made a lot of improvements to 1088 00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,480 make the game just move snappier and make decisions easier. 1089 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,199 But then because the UI sucks so much, like all 1090 00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,880 the time that is saved through those benefits is like 1091 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,199 pulled away because it takes forever to just move around 1092 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,119 the menus and stuff. So and you know part of 1093 00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,679 that is because I'm a controller, but you know they're 1094 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,239 selling it on consoles that it should be a good 1095 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,639 experience there too, So uh, I know I just spewed 1096 00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:05,920 a million things at you, but yeah, any any questions 1097 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:07,880 or thoughts on all mentioned there? 1098 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 2: The other thing I was wondering about, like you mentioned 1099 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,320 like river weys are kind of accessible now, Like, has 1100 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,039 there been any other like combat changes compared to other games? 1101 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:21,880 I know that's always been the big thing for me, 1102 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,280 and turn based games with the combats just not as 1103 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,280 exciting as of course, yeah I'm strategy, but like does 1104 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,719 it feel very similar to what they've made in the past. Like, 1105 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,039 was the jump from five to six like a big jump? 1106 00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:34,840 I imagine there was. It must have been a little 1107 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,880 bit different from like the older ones, like back in 1108 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,960 the SIEV three days. They must have improved quite a 1109 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,639 bit of things even just in five. But how does 1110 00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:42,360 it feel overall? 1111 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I there's a couple of interesting changes. 1112 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,679 I mean, I I'm not really usually a war guy, 1113 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,159 as I said in SIEV three back in the day, 1114 00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:50,679 I me and my cousin more like, oh yeah, we 1115 00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:51,519 were nuke and everyone. 1116 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: That's all we know to do. 1117 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: But I've kind of matured past that now I'm like, 1118 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,440 I'm an economic sky, I'm a science kuy. 1119 00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 3: That is the kind I go. I want to go 1120 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,320 for the culture win that kind of stuff. 1121 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: So I I think the commander is like a huge 1122 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,679 change and that that is really great. 1123 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,599 Speaker 3: That helps a lot. 1124 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: There are some other wear changes, like normally and I 1125 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360 fear the CIV game, like your city can like do 1126 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,000 an attack for free. You know, It's like it has 1127 00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,360 like a free catapult almost you can like launch launch 1128 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920 attacks if you're getting bombarded. You can normally have like 1129 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,840 a free defense system. That is not the case here. 1130 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,000 Your city can't attack by default, so you need to 1131 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,119 have a unit, and I think that's one of the 1132 00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,360 reasons they added this commander thing, is because you don't 1133 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,960 have that natural defense. You're kind of encouraged to have 1134 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,679 an army commander kind of on every city and then 1135 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,760 you know, plug over many units you want into that 1136 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,599 and it so now you have like natural defense when 1137 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,239 people are coming in you can lash out and do 1138 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,320 that kind of stuff. So I think that's probably the 1139 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,360 biggest change. But otherwise, if you don't like the combaty 1140 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,400 the other games, you probably not like it here. And honestly, 1141 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,199 I don't really love the sieve combat either. That's why 1142 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,280 I don't do that stuff a lot. But I do 1143 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,639 think the commander is a great addition. There also is 1144 00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,480 like a fleet commander too, so it's the same thing 1145 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,760 for boats. You can stack multiple boats inside of one 1146 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,559 fleet commander, so kind of two separate units that accomplished 1147 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,760 the same sort of thing there. And then I think 1148 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,719 other than that, one another change is like normally you 1149 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,320 can build a city wall, right and that I'll just 1150 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,519 give you your city extra defense more HP, but you 1151 00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:15,360 can also put at some point you can put defenses 1152 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,880 on certain districts and tiles, So I think that would 1153 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,159 be a strategic thing, like building walls out essentially on 1154 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,039 different parts of your city and kind of trying to decide, oh, 1155 00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:24,440 what are my choke points going to be? Where do 1156 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,679 I want to defend when I do have someone coming 1157 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,679 in for an attack. So maybe a little bit more 1158 00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:32,280 strategy there as well. And then what else, I mean, 1159 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,360 you know, they've made some changes to like upgrading units 1160 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,880 and like tech tree stuff, so it seems like there's 1161 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000 a bit more there in terms of like strategy that 1162 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:39,639 you could do in terms of like how do your 1163 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,039 units want to improve? How do you want to attack 1164 00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,559 with them? That kind of thing. And I think maybe 1165 00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:47,880 the last change too is and this maybe sounds like 1166 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,639 not much of a change, but I think overall has 1167 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,760 been is Normally the early game of Sieve can be 1168 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480 such a nuisance because they'll have barbarians all over the map, 1169 00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:56,960 which are just like random NPC units, not part of 1170 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,199 any Sieve. They never have, never will be, but they're 1171 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,719 just like a little camp of raiders pretty much, and 1172 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320 they'll just go around, they'll trash your resources, they'll attack 1173 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,320 your units and you know, early game, they're good to 1174 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,280 attack because then you can level up your new units 1175 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,360 get some XP on them. But for the most part 1176 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,639 they're just like extremely annoying. And so they've actually just 1177 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,639 removed barbarians completely, but instead now the city states have 1178 00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:21,119 different temperaments and so certain city states by default will 1179 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,000 be chill, happy, peaceful, whatever, and you can go talk 1180 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:26,280 to them and make peace with them, and then there's 1181 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,199 other ones that'll be hostile. And that's always been the case, 1182 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,519 but now instead of the hostile city states just being 1183 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,239 like easy to frustrate, now they are like they'll attack 1184 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,840 on site by default, and so they are kind of 1185 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,159 like the instead of barbarians, you have like more meaningful barbarians, 1186 00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:44,000 like named barbarians, And so it makes like the decisions 1187 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,719 of going to take over the city states a lot 1188 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,239 more interesting because it's like, Okay, do I want to 1189 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480 fight these barbarians, try and kill them and disperse this, 1190 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,800 or do I want to try and befriend them over time, 1191 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,920 using my influence that I've accumulated to one make them 1192 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,320 to a point where they like me, know, for they're 1193 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,760 not just going to attack me on site, but then 1194 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,280 also maybe further down line, I'll incorporate them. So that's 1195 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,719 kind of a big decision of Okay, do I want 1196 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,719 to befriend these guys and incorporate them, or do I 1197 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,119 just want to fight them forever or do I just 1198 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:08,360 want to fight and kill them get them off the 1199 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,599 map and now I can't incorporate them later. So I 1200 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,840 think that that's made some good decision making there. It's 1201 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,920 just made barbarians kind of less annoying, like they feel 1202 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,119 more implemented into the world into a better way. So 1203 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,360 I think that's another good change. But I think the 1204 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,880 short answer is no, the combat's not changed the whole 1205 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:25,519 of a lot, at least from. 1206 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,079 Speaker 3: What I've experienced. 1207 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: I haven't even used like planes and stuff, so we'll 1208 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,639 see how because that's always been a kind of a 1209 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,239 kind I haven't loved. Is like thinking about where your 1210 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,079 planes are stationed and how much range they have. 1211 00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 3: It's kind of been weird. 1212 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, from what I've experienced, it's been fine, but 1213 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,039 pretty much the same as like any other cive experience. 1214 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:46,559 Speaker 2: Right on. Yeah, no, I mean you already answered. My 1215 00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:48,039 other thing I was gonna ask was just like the 1216 00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:51,199 victory conditions, because yeah, that's always like an interesting aspect 1217 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,920 for me. In say of like even in Beyond Earth, 1218 00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,840 there was just some really like high sci fi like 1219 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:02,360 end game scenarios where you just like basically simulate all 1220 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,119 like all of Old Earth into the robot army whatever 1221 00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:09,920 whatever the hell you might be making. So I love 1222 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,719 like the I guess the twist on like the classic 1223 00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,159 historical ideas of what SIV does. If you have like 1224 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,760 the landmarks in there, but you know, you could be 1225 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,039 a completely different nation that has yeah, the pyramids in 1226 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,719 New York or something. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean like that. Yeah, yeah, No. 1227 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: I do think the the inclusion of having different chl 1228 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,639 unquote victory conditions per age I think is a great change. 1229 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,119 I talked about how that works, of how you're getting 1230 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,880 those age points and progressing that age. But like, for example, 1231 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,639 in the exploration age, a big part of the economic 1232 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:43,880 one is to do these treasure fleets. The idea there 1233 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,199 is you settle on lands that are off your base continent, 1234 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880 so on those islands or other continents that exist out there, 1235 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,239 and you're finding things like oranges or spices, like these 1236 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,079 exotic ingredients, and then you kind of settle there get 1237 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,480 you know, get a mine, get whatever plantation it is 1238 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:02,840 to work that resource, and then eventually you'll get like 1239 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,159 a treasure treasure fleet, so just a boat full of 1240 00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,400 these supplies and you have to ferry them back to 1241 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,159 your mainland, back to your not necessarily capital, just any 1242 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,880 city you have on your main continent. 1243 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 3: And so that was kind of. 1244 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,119 Speaker 1: Like a fun minigame of one going to capture these resources, 1245 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:17,519 ones that I was trying to find that are different 1246 00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:19,639 than what I currently have, but then also making sure 1247 00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:21,559 that they have a good safe route to get back. 1248 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 3: Home, making sure they're defended and that kind of stuff. 1249 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,559 Speaker 1: So that kind of just felt like a separate wing 1250 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,920 condition because my goal was to get like thirty of 1251 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,159 those delivered within the age or something, to get like 1252 00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,239 the maximum age bonus, and then more of those age 1253 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,639 bonuses you get, you also get like bonus stats kind 1254 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,719 of going into that next age, so the additional perks 1255 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,880 you can essentially put on your different things like cultural, economics, military, 1256 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,639 those kind of things. 1257 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,039 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's it's cool to have. 1258 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:46,039 Speaker 1: You know, before there's always been like four or five 1259 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:49,239 win conditions, and now there's kind of like fifteen to 1260 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,960 twenty ish. You know, if you implement these other things 1261 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,280 into your kind of general goal where your goals are 1262 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,159 at that certain time. And of course you're going to 1263 00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:58,119 just neural that and just go science and just get 1264 00:49:58,159 --> 00:49:59,480 in the sands amounts of science and go for the 1265 00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:01,480 space race. I'm sure you could do still do that, 1266 00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:02,679 but I think the game does a good job of 1267 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,639 incentivizing you to be a bit more of a varied nation, 1268 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,000 because I don't think any nation's been super successful I 1269 00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:12,000 only focusing on one thing ever and nothing else, you know, 1270 00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,360 and you've got to have that mix, right, So so yeah, 1271 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,079 I think that's been a good change there. 1272 00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 3: So so there you go. There is Civilization seven. 1273 00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,599 Speaker 1: It's cool game, but it's also an early access game 1274 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,880 kind of so buyer beware. I guess the moral ofless 1275 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,719 store there. I'm curious how much more I'll play of this. 1276 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,079 Speaker 3: Game, because I am also I'm even for myself. 1277 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, Okay, once I'm done this current match, 1278 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960 maybe I'll just let it cook for another few months 1279 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,119 on the deals or not necessarily the deal seafront, just 1280 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:40,280 like patches, and get the UI a bit better and 1281 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,800 then come back and play a bit more. I'll probably 1282 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,760 do some more quick match games and just try and 1283 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,400 blast through a bit more just to explore some of 1284 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,840 the other sieves and things like that. But yeah, super 1285 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960 enjoyable game. Like I said, I ever to put a 1286 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,760 ton of hours into it, and probably after we've done this, 1287 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,559 I'm probably gonna go play a few more turns, and 1288 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,000 hopefully not too late, because I gotta get to bed 1289 00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:56,880 at some point. 1290 00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 2: More turn. It's the class. 1291 00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: It's always that one more turned. 1292 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of one return up, we take one ad 1293 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,440 break and we'll be right back. I don't know if 1294 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,400 that transition made a whole lot of sense, but we 1295 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,360 are back Kirkland. Have you been playing anything this last 1296 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:14,960 couple of weeks here? 1297 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been dabbling in a couple of things here. 1298 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,960 I'll start off by shouting out Jurassic Evolution, Drassic World 1299 00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,440 Evolution two. Uh, basically roller Coaster Tycoon but with rights. 1300 00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can'tmember if I played one or two. I 1301 00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:31,760 forget which one I tried. 1302 00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: Number two is on the PlayStation catalog, so I I 1303 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,719 you know, just randomly, you. 1304 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,159 Speaker 1: Know how I can find out parks backlog dot com 1305 00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:41,840 and I can know which one I played. 1306 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,599 Speaker 2: Shouts out to backlog. Yeah, no, I I never played 1307 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:48,360 the first game. I just randomly was watching some Drassic 1308 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,119 Park and got the itch, and I don't know, I 1309 00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,760 just wanted another strategy thing to play on the console, 1310 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,159 so I booted that up, and uh man, I was. 1311 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,079 I was having lots of fun with it. Basically the 1312 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,760 idea of it. It's funny because it's set between two 1313 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,440 horrible movies for me, in Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom and 1314 00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,840 and Dominion. It's like set between that. You have the 1315 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,719 characters from the movies, right, yeah, definitely not Chris Pratt. 1316 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,639 They have, but it's like a completely different guy and 1317 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,480 Chris Bratt. 1318 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I played number two. 1319 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at Okay, so yeah then then you know, 1320 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,519 like the main campaign is you you're just kind of 1321 00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:28,360 go into different areas like in America and like setting 1322 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,599 up these wildlife you know, like havens I guess for 1323 00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,239 these dinos. And I was just like cooked by the gameplay. 1324 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,559 I like was just having a lot of fun, like 1325 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,760 flying around the helicopter and then just tranking some dinos, 1326 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,840 taking them back, making it like making a pen for them. 1327 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,840 And it's sad a game. I don't know how much 1328 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,880 I'm really gonna play it, but I'm I'm enjoying what 1329 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,559 what I am getting out of it. I remember Taylor 1330 00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:56,960 Field really hot on that first game, and I don't 1331 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,000 even remember seeing too much of the gameplay in that. 1332 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,719 But yeah, no, I had a lot of fun playing 1333 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,079 those roller coaster Tycoon games back in the day. Other 1334 00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,199 city managers like I've always just had a lot of 1335 00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:09,960 fun playing it. So, you know, throwing the Dino mix 1336 00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,639 in it, it's it's a good time. It definitely reminds 1337 00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:17,360 me of do you ever play Tropico. It's it's a 1338 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,679 lot more like instead of it being like an open sandbot. 1339 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,679 I think they have the sandbox mode in it, but 1340 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,639 in those games, it was always like you had. 1341 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,639 Speaker 3: Like a goal to do more scenario base. 1342 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Once you finished those scenarios, it kind of 1343 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,360 ends the mission that goes on, which never was my 1344 00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:34,400 like cup of tea growing up. Like I always just 1345 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,239 love the just open ended like sandbox game just going there. 1346 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,360 You make your your cities and whatnot. But they definitely 1347 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,519 have some fun things that you have to kind of 1348 00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:47,280 deal with, whether it's like a natural event like a 1349 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,199 big sandstorm coming in or something. And yeah, no, just 1350 00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:53,400 just managing it. It's a lot of fun, and like 1351 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,119 I said, I don't know how much more I'm really 1352 00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,719 going to be playing it, but I am glad I 1353 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,199 checked it out. So shuts up to the PlayStation kind 1354 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,840 of log for having some good games on there. 1355 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely, uh at some point want to jump 1356 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,800 back in there. And I think the scenario play makes 1357 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,440 it a bit more of those well a bit more 1358 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,800 of a game where you normally those kind of games 1359 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,559 you just binge and play an absertain amount of but 1360 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,440 because of the scenarios, you can kind of piecemeal and 1361 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,800 be like, ah, you know, I kind of just feel 1362 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,719 like playing Jurassic tonight and just go do one scenario 1363 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,440 or something like that. 1364 00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:19,199 Speaker 3: So it's cool. 1365 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,119 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, Taran Hill actually was very similar in that sense, 1366 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,760 where like a specific thing to do, a. 1367 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,599 Speaker 3: Very nice kind of yeah, boiled down version of that genre. Yeah. 1368 00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:32,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so Yeah, shouts out to Drastic Evolution. Uh 1369 00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:35,800 the other game that Uh Man, do you ever play 1370 00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,679 super Monkey Ball at any time in your life on GameCube? 1371 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,679 I think Mini Clip might have had like a like 1372 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,239 a I. 1373 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,599 Speaker 1: Feel like I've played like the Mini Clip ones. Yeah, 1374 00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:46,000 I've played a lot of games like. 1375 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,199 Speaker 3: That where you're rolling a ball around. 1376 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've ever actually played monkey ball, 1377 00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:51,480 which is crazy because. 1378 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: Super monkey Ball. Sorry, yeah, don't understand here, so sorry, yeah, no, 1379 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,400 I I was interested in this. I can't remember whenever 1380 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,320 we watched the because they have Super monkey Ball Mania HD, 1381 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,719 which is like a collection or remake or something for. 1382 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: They released like three collections a year. I feel like 1383 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,960 those games, it's so hard to keep up with the 1384 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,639 tacks going on. 1385 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,039 Speaker 2: So I remember I might have been last year, like 1386 00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:17,280 I saw gameplay for the game, and it's just like, man, 1387 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,840 like I totally forgot about those types of games, and 1388 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,719 like just just want to plug it in. And then 1389 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,199 sure enough Shaye just randomly mentioned Super monkey Ball and 1390 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,239 now she wanted to play it, and then it was 1391 00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:30,000 on sale seventy five percent off on PlayStations, like, oh, 1392 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,599 that's perfect time, one to four players. This is this 1393 00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:37,079 is so exciting. Boot it up. I think it was, yeah, yesterday. 1394 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,000 Actually we plugged into play and we were pretty disappointed 1395 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,599 because it's the type of multiplayer that it's just like 1396 00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,360 the bonus mini games that you can do like a multiplayer, 1397 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,599 not like the main story, which definitely was deflating, just 1398 00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,480 because we were like getting a lamp to go through 1399 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,119 the story together. 1400 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,199 Speaker 1: What is what is the multiplayer? Like, is it like 1401 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,599 combat trying to bounce each other off the map or something. 1402 00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 2: There's races, so it's kind of like a super mar 1403 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,960 cart scenario, but you're in the balls. There's like mini golf, 1404 00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,559 there's baseball, like just a different bunch of different modes 1405 00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:08,039 or some battle mode and like, yeah, it is fun, 1406 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,760 but it's it's not the main game. I feel like, 1407 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,960 thinking about it, the main game doesn't really make sense 1408 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,440 for two player unless you have like literally split screen 1409 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,239 with two completely different raps, because you are completely like 1410 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,920 you're moving the whole terrain every time you move your joystick. 1411 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,559 That's how you get around the map. True in the 1412 00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,239 main story, So it in hindsight, it doesn't really make 1413 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,320 sense how you do it co op. But nonetheless we 1414 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,480 are a little disappointed. But yeah, we were just kinda 1415 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,559 we played a little bit of the mini games, but 1416 00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:34,280 then we were just kind of swapping out remotes, like 1417 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,960 playing a level here and there and then and then 1418 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,599 I would do a level and it's just so high 1419 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:42,000 octane and like the music is insane. It's I can 1420 00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:46,000 only imagine what it's like. It it what I imagine 1421 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,119 walking into Tokyo and just being overwhelmed by all like 1422 00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:51,440 the neon lights and everything, and like the anime music 1423 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,599 and everything that that is what this gameplay is. It 1424 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,480 is just so in your face crazy music and it's 1425 00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:00,159 very fun though. It's it's it's a fun game. So 1426 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:01,920 we played a little bit of it last night there. 1427 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,039 But yeah, shouts out to super monkey Ball because I 1428 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,119 remember playing I think it was on the game Cube 1429 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:07,559 with the one that I played, and then of course 1430 00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:12,719 like the MIDI clip whatever copy they had. I don't 1431 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,239 think it was the same license, but it was definitely 1432 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,440 the same idea there. But yeah, nice, so yeah, shouts 1433 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,400 out super monkey Ball, and then a couple couple shooters 1434 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,280 to shout out here. You know, we played some cod 1435 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,920 on the weekend and uh. 1436 00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: God, I lost my touch Kirkling, I don't what happened. 1437 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,599 Like it's funny, you know, I feel like. 1438 00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:34,639 Speaker 2: It ebbs and flows. It's like the tide, you. 1439 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:36,239 Speaker 3: Know, I need a rant a little bit. 1440 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,119 Speaker 1: So you know, with war Zone, we haven't played in 1441 00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:41,199 a bit, so naturally there's a bit of that. But 1442 00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:42,400 I feel like you know and all the time we've 1443 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,960 played war Zone, which is mostly like Taylor and Travis 1444 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,800 than me, and you will jump in every once in 1445 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,039 a while, but they're kind of holding it down. I 1446 00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:50,880 feel like, you know, I never know what the meta is. 1447 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,480 I never know what's going on with these maps. I 1448 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:56,000 never know anything that is occurring. But like enough of that, 1449 00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:58,679 like legacy Call of Duty skill and the thousands of 1450 00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,199 hours I've played over my life, I'm still like, I'm fine. 1451 00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:03,000 I can get I get enough kills, I can make 1452 00:58:03,039 --> 00:58:04,440 it so I'm doing well for the team. 1453 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,079 Speaker 3: I can hold it down. 1454 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: We play the same map over and overse you can 1455 00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:08,480 kind of learn it pretty well too, right. And I 1456 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,239 don't know what it was. I think it was when 1457 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,440 Black Ops. What the hell was the game that came 1458 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,880 out last year was six Yeah, when that came out 1459 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,760 last year and I, me and Taylor were doing the review. 1460 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,800 So I jumped in and played some multiplayer, like just 1461 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,199 regular college multiplayer, and I was getting absolutely wrecked. 1462 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,119 Speaker 3: And like, I don't know what it is. 1463 00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: War Zone I can still hold it down, but something 1464 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,800 about multiplayer it's too twitchy. 1465 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't know these maps. It's like people are. 1466 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,159 Speaker 1: Omni moving mim in and all over the players. I 1467 00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:34,599 can't handle this and I don't know what it was. 1468 00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,559 When we played Wars over the weekend, I just got 1469 00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,320 absolutely trashed. I got like three kills the whole night 1470 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,400 that absolutely horrendous. Was missing every shot. I was watching 1471 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,519 some of the kill cams the ways and these people 1472 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:48,559 were moving around me, just sprinting and then sliding omni movement, 1473 00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:51,239 doing crazy stuff, and like maybe that is part of it. 1474 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,400 But maybe I'm just I'm getting I'm hitting thirty this year, 1475 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,119 and maybe that that tech skill, that reaction. 1476 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 3: Time, maybe it's just gone. Kirkland, I might just my call. 1477 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,000 Career might just be over. I don't know. 1478 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: You know, in your defense, you did tell me that 1479 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,440 you played like seven hours of SIV right before that session, 1480 00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,320 so that I feel like that is a factor. I 1481 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,119 don't think that makes me worse maybe to retire, like 1482 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,800 maybe your eyes were a little bit, uh sieved out 1483 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,280 a little bit. 1484 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: My legs felt not great. Nothing you need legs for. 1485 00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I've had many of those evenings where it's 1486 00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:27,800 it's it's funny because like you said, like we we 1487 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,920 definitely ebb and flow like the times that we are 1488 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,079 playing caught. I feel like I'll go where I'm playing 1489 00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:34,440 like every weekend and then I won't touch it for 1490 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,559 like a year and just just that's it. And then 1491 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,599 maybe I'll play a session it does not go well 1492 00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:40,239 and I'm like, I'm not playing this game again. I like, 1493 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,280 can't install right away. 1494 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 3: But how'd you guys do after I left? 1495 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: Did you get a win? I wasn't holding you back. 1496 00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:49,719 Speaker 2: We we got a win. You were with us, though, 1497 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,119 weren't you for for that win? 1498 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:52,159 Speaker 3: Oh? 1499 00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: I think I I think I was. I still didn't 1500 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,719 do anything that game, but so I think we got 1501 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,840 We got to win, and. 1502 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 3: Travis got win. We went upstairs right yea. 1503 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes he popped off there. So yeah, just 1504 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,800 the one went on the evening. But okay, a couple 1505 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,480 of close calls, but no, it's tough game, man. But 1506 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:11,480 I will say on the two sessions that I've had 1507 01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:13,480 so far on this kind of like New war Zone. 1508 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,920 I don't even know if it is a new war 1509 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,800 zone New war Zone to me, guns are feeling pretty 1510 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,000 good for me. I don't know. I feel like just 1511 01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:23,519 my play style, the type of guns that I was using, 1512 01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:25,519 the snipers feel really nice, like I feel like it 1513 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:29,199 was really nice headshots and just like the reactions that 1514 01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:31,000 I'm getting out of, like the way that I'm using 1515 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,559 the guns are what's happening. I feel like that is 1516 01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:35,440 a good meta for me. Like sometimes if I have 1517 01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:37,280 like a sniper line up a guy in the head, 1518 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,159 shoot him, he doesn't even go down, and I'm like, 1519 01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:40,679 what the fuck is this game? Like why am I 1520 01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,000 playing this like this? Just this gun is supposed to 1521 01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:46,760 drop people and it's not. So I do like the meta, 1522 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,199 at least for what I was experiencing. I might have 1523 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,519 just had, you know, a lucky night for just the 1524 01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:54,639 people that I was facing. But no, it felt pretty 1525 01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:57,840 good and pretty fun. But I see what happens when 1526 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,639 you're turning thirty, you might fall. I just turned twenty nine. 1527 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,960 Let me enjoy the last time my twenties. Yeah. I 1528 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,119 absolutely hate though, how they like reset like the classes 1529 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,280 every like war Zone. I don't know if it's every 1530 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,159 cod game, but it feels like every time I play, 1531 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,480 I'm like level one, I can't make a load out. 1532 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,920 I feel like even if I unlock a gun, I 1533 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,000 have to completely level it up just to get attachments 1534 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,079 on it. Like it's just so annoying, especially for like 1535 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,360 someone that doesn't play these cod games, Like I just 1536 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400 play war Zone every once in a while, and I like, 1537 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,119 I have the guns that I've like always had, whether 1538 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,000 I've unlocked them in a battle pass or something in 1539 01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:36,039 the past. But I just like can't make a class 1540 01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:37,880 because I'm not level five. And you play like one 1541 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,360 game and you get level five, So it's like, why 1542 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,360 even like stop me from doing that, Like, just let 1543 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,280 me fucking make a class. That's so any bugs me up, 1544 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,840 especially like whenever we're getting back into it, I feel 1545 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,159 like I get so excited, like, oh yeah, the boys again. 1546 01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:51,920 I'm I'm deleting five games off my PlayStation so I 1547 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,159 can fucking play war Zone. 1548 01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,159 Speaker 3: Dude. It literally took me like three days of downloading 1549 01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:58,119 to get that thing done. It kept stopping and started. 1550 01:01:58,119 --> 01:01:59,480 I don't know if there's like a data cap on 1551 01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,159 my or something, but it was rough. 1552 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I was getting really excited. Then I 1553 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,960 boot it up and I just have no classes or anything. 1554 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,360 It's it's it's annoying. So I hope they changed that. 1555 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,679 Speaker 1: But you gotta watch cut scenes that no one cares about. 1556 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,840 I think you skip them now at least, but it's. 1557 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, my god, yeah they make it too complicated there. 1558 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,239 But I had a couple of good sessions there, and 1559 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,559 then because we've just been well, I had a couple 1560 01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,760 of sessions of that. I was just in the shooter mindset. 1561 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,920 I jump back into Tom Clancy's break point there that 1562 01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:32,079 the game Second wild Lands. I guess it's it's like 1563 01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:34,239 the unofficial sequel. I guess, but it is the sequel, 1564 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:38,440 and I I love that game so much. I I 1565 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,079 feel like it's probably like one of my favorite tactical 1566 01:02:41,079 --> 01:02:43,039 shooters that I played. And just in the sense of 1567 01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:46,400 like the accessibility options and stuff that they provide the player, 1568 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,400 I just I commend them for doing that because it 1569 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,320 has two different gameplay systems where it's kind of like 1570 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,840 the Division or Destiny, where it's it's like not like 1571 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,280 instant headshot kills, where like you you're just loading in 1572 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,119 like damage, you know, like like that sort of idea 1573 01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:07,159 you pick up like purple loot, different like rare loot 1574 01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:09,679 items like that, Like they have that system, but then 1575 01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:11,480 you can play the game in a completely different way 1576 01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:14,079 where it is just an immersive way where like you know, 1577 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,840 there's no item levels, or anything like that, Like you 1578 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,079 just if you're getting headshots, you're getting kills, and that's 1579 01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:20,639 the way that I like to play those games. So 1580 01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:22,800 I like that it has that other mode for maybe 1581 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,679 like a more online multiplayer like setting, but then they 1582 01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:28,239 have like the way that I like to play where 1583 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,719 I can completely like change the HUDs. So there's basically 1584 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,320 nothing on there, have like really like hardcore difficulty like 1585 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,079 settings on there, and that's not even with mods, Like 1586 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,920 it's just out of the box. So really really commend 1587 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,719 them for just like the the ways that you can 1588 01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:45,159 play that game, and for me it's I'm loving what 1589 01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:47,119 they're providing me and just tons of quality of life 1590 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:50,280 improvements from that first game. The storyline and the cut 1591 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,320 scenes is still as cheesy as ever. I pretty much 1592 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,599 just skip them every time because they're just they're so 1593 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,039 corny to me. Just some of the dialogue they have 1594 01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:00,159 John Burnhal's in there, so it's kind of funny to 1595 01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,480 have him as like the pro the antagonist. Sorry, but no, 1596 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,599 it's gameplay wise, it is such a phenomenal game and 1597 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,039 really just great like storyline without like the cut scenes, 1598 01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:13,760 just kind of like the threats and stuff that they 1599 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,920 set up. Yeah, and another thing that, of course you 1600 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,280 can you can customize this, but I love how they're 1601 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,239 basically how the waypoint system works is again, you can 1602 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,920 have it as simple as there's just like a spot 1603 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,400 on the map that shows you exactly where you have 1604 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,679 to go, or they have it in a not guided 1605 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,840 setting where like you'll basically have to do like investigating 1606 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,320 and figure out where certain locations are on the map 1607 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,559 and it'll tell you like it's northwest of this lake, 1608 01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:42,280 and so you like kind of find the region and 1609 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,079 then like that's how you've kind of find where your 1610 01:04:44,119 --> 01:04:46,840 goals are, which is just it makes the exploring just 1611 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,559 so much more interesting and you know, as opposed to 1612 01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:51,360 just having an arrow that you're just following to get 1613 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,679 to your target. So yeah, really really impressed with that game. 1614 01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:56,239 And it's it's not a new game either, Like the 1615 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,079 version I'm playing is PS four. It's on the Playstason catalog, 1616 01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:02,199 so that's I'm accessing it. But yeah, having lots of 1617 01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:04,800 fun with it, and it's definitely scratching that shooter itch. 1618 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:06,639 Speaker 3: Nice good stuff. 1619 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I had one of the game I've been playing, but 1620 01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,480 I'm actually gonna save it for later in the episode 1621 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,679 for a reason that you'll find out. 1622 01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 3: When I bring it up. A nice little surprise. But 1623 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,320 how about we get into this. 1624 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: So there last week was a PlayStation State of Play. 1625 01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:23,039 I think it's been a little bit since we've had 1626 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,519 well I guess it's been a long time since we 1627 01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:28,360 have a PlayStation showcase, I suppose, But we had a 1628 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,679 state of Play here that I thought was really great. 1629 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 3: It was like forty five minutes. 1630 01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,039 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of it is like reminding you 1631 01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:37,039 of games that are coming out in the next few months. 1632 01:05:37,079 --> 01:05:39,039 These things always kind of have to have like you know, 1633 01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:43,199 like what was there in there, like Monster Hunter, Split Fiction, WWE, 1634 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,559 Pirate Eq's like all these things we've seen trailers and 1635 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,360 stuff of before, just kind of reminding you of the 1636 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,519 release dates when they're coming out. Then there's also like 1637 01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:52,519 a couple fresh new things in there, a couple good surprises, 1638 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,880 some things I kind of didn't really expect, some DLC updates, 1639 01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,039 and then they even had like some just PlayStation Plus 1640 01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:00,840 updates some things coming to that as well. So really 1641 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,880 just a very well rounded show. I thought it was 1642 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,320 really really great. And yeah, I mean it's you know, 1643 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,480 there's no fluff in here. There's a couple developers talking 1644 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,920 about stuff, but that was just giving you good context 1645 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,880 about the games and the people who make them. But 1646 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,800 there isn't anything weird in between. Like it was just 1647 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,239 kind of very to the point. So yeah, I thought 1648 01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:16,320 it was that was really good. 1649 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 3: As usual. 1650 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,039 Speaker 1: We're not gonna break down every single thing that was 1651 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:22,119 in this because there's a lot in here, and as 1652 01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:23,760 I mentioned, a lot of it's like, what do you 1653 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,519 want to say about Monster Hunter? Okay, we got another 1654 01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:28,360 trailer here, We've seen a million of we don't need 1655 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,800 to talk about it anymore. But I want to start 1656 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,880 here because I know that I have with me in 1657 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,320 the very room a Sonic fan boy. 1658 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,079 Speaker 3: Is Sonic Racing. 1659 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is a series that has existed before, 1660 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,800 but there was Sonic Racing Crossworlds here. 1661 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the. 1662 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 3: First thing has been once before. What's going on here? 1663 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: I feel like there's been more of these. The Classic 1664 01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:53,159 Racer that I used to play with Sonic Riders that 1665 01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:55,679 think is what it was called, which was like it 1666 01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:58,880 was like a snowboarding type game, but like not snowboarding. 1667 01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I've seen that. 1668 01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that that was like the big Sonic 1669 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,280 Racer that I had played, even but I feel like 1670 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,039 I have seen this before. It just kind of fits 1671 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:11,199 in that like Crash Team racing. 1672 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:11,519 Speaker 3: You know. 1673 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:13,559 Speaker 2: It just looks like there's been a non Mario Kart 1674 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,719 Mario Kart. 1675 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,119 Speaker 3: There's one back in twenty nineteen. 1676 01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's ones like back in the day too, But. 1677 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,119 Speaker 3: Anyway, this is this is a new one coming out. 1678 01:07:22,119 --> 01:07:22,840 Do you have an interest in this? 1679 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, as far as cart racers go, 1680 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,400 I thought it looked really polished, looked really good. 1681 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 3: The maps looked awesome. 1682 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not really a Sonic guy in terms of the nostalgia. 1683 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,280 I couldn't tell you, oh, that's green hill zone, that's 1684 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,920 red hill zone, any of that stuff. But I thought 1685 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,320 it looked looked really solid. 1686 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it looks fun. It's just maybe like not 1687 01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:43,519 the genre that I'm like seeking out really, just because 1688 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,800 anytime I'm playing these types of games, usually with like 1689 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,400 a friend setting, you know, it's usually just Mario Kart. 1690 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,159 It's like that scene. 1691 01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't want the guy who's like, hey, guys, let's 1692 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,800 play Sonic. 1693 01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Racing exactly exactly, but who knows if it's easy to access, Yeah, 1694 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,719 I definitely put it up. 1695 01:07:58,239 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1696 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: After that, there was Digimon Story The Stranger. I feel 1697 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,079 like there's another series like monkey Ball, There's like Digitmon. 1698 01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:07,039 There's like a bunch of these games coming every year. 1699 01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,760 I don't know what's going on with Digitmon over here, 1700 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,440 But what is your touchdown with Digitmon. 1701 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if we've talked about it before. 1702 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: You have a nostalgia for these these little mons here, uh. 1703 01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:21,199 Speaker 2: Very like fleeting memory of Digimon. It unfortunately just slipped 1704 01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:23,880 through the cracks between the Pokemon and the yuky Oh 1705 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,640 and like those types of Babe Blade even like I 1706 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,199 feel like Digimon was just like the lesser out of 1707 01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:30,000 all of those for me. 1708 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 3: For me, it was like on the bay Blade tier. 1709 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,520 I feel like, yeah, but definitely below Pokemon, below Yugyoh. 1710 01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I had a couple Digimon cards. I 1711 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,640 think I had like an action figure of like the 1712 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,279 the classic like c bone looking thing like the main 1713 01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,760 Digimon is what I call them. But I'm just kind 1714 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,319 of surprise that it's like still going like because as 1715 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,119 you said, like there is a lot of games like this, 1716 01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:57,239 but it also surprised me just seeing more Yugiyo games 1717 01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:59,399 like there's like modern Yukio games, which is just like 1718 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,359 surprising me. So uh yeah, I was pretty shocked to 1719 01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:06,960 see Digimon here and just just kind of curious, like 1720 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,720 if is there still a show that's on, like a 1721 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,960 modern Digitimon show. 1722 01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:14,159 Speaker 3: I don't probably, I don't know. Yeah, it's it must be. 1723 01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably a big reason why they 1724 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,479 make some of these games is to just keep keep 1725 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,279 the interest level there for the younger generation and all that. 1726 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:22,880 I think, as far as you know, it looked like 1727 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,960 kind of a double a tier sort of thing. But 1728 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,920 I thought looked good, looked cool, So shout outs to 1729 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,720 that game. Next up was a game called Lost Soul Aside. 1730 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,720 This is a I believe a new studio making this. 1731 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:35,359 Speaker 3: It's gonna come. 1732 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 1: Out May thirtieth, And I feel bad about this, but 1733 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,319 I feel like every time there's a PlayStation showcase or 1734 01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:43,640 say play anything, there's like three or four of these 1735 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,439 games in here that all look like this, And so 1736 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,359 I don't know what the special sauce of this one is. 1737 01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:50,039 You know, it looks like it's got a little Devil 1738 01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:51,880 may Cry in it. It's got a little it's got 1739 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,920 it so much. Final Fantasy that. I'm like, I was 1740 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,720 wondering if this was a Final Fantasy game because some 1741 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,720 of this guy looked like Cloud. 1742 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,199 Speaker 3: That guy looked like Arrhythm, Like. 1743 01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 2: There's four Final Fantasies that tonight. 1744 01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:04,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this game kind of falls in that realm, 1745 01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:06,640 which is not really my cup of tea. You know, 1746 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,600 visually looks good and all that, but I just don't 1747 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,039 know what the I don't know what the special sauce is. 1748 01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:16,520 Speaker 2: I like the aerial traversal on like the soul looking thing. 1749 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,199 It just it looked beautiful. It's it's funny because yeah, 1750 01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:22,920 as I said, it felt like Final Fantasy. I feel 1751 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,880 like I saw a couple of Final Fantasy games in here, 1752 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,399 and every time I see these trailers for like a Fantasy, sorry, 1753 01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:31,439 a Final Fantasy like game, just the gameplay that that's 1754 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,960 similar to that, I'm always just like captivated. I'm like, man, 1755 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,880 this game looks so gorgeous and looks just so beautiful. 1756 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,399 I'm sure it's amazing, but I most likely just will 1757 01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:42,720 not ever play it because I just I haven't played 1758 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,720 Final Fantasy. So if I if I wanted to get it, 1759 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,880 I would get in there. I still to this day 1760 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,039 want to get back into Final Fantasy fifteen. I think 1761 01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:51,840 I was like twenty hours into that game and just 1762 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,199 just put it down and ever got it back into it. 1763 01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:55,079 So I feel like dirty if I want to jump 1764 01:10:55,079 --> 01:10:57,359 into like one of these without having to, you know, 1765 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,399 go back and finish what I've started. But yeah, no, 1766 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,279 it's interesting looking trailer. I think all these types of 1767 01:11:04,279 --> 01:11:08,239 trailers look good, whether it's this one or the the 1768 01:11:08,319 --> 01:11:12,439 other one, Tales of Something that we'll talk about, Tides 1769 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,279 of any Tail. 1770 01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, did that one call out to you? That one? 1771 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,359 Speaker 2: That one had a lot more juice For me. 1772 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: I think I just had a little bit that near sauce, 1773 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,760 a little ring juice, and that's what it was, you know, beautiful. 1774 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,239 Speaker 2: I booted up the PlayStation's store on the weekend and 1775 01:11:28,319 --> 01:11:30,319 I saw it there like like that was the first 1776 01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:31,760 time I saw like the cover and I'm like, what 1777 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,920 is this game? Like this just looks gorgeous. And then 1778 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:37,000 I saw the trailer and yeah, it looks pretty impressive. 1779 01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:40,560 And I don't know, just more sauce compared to the 1780 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,000 other one for me, whether it's just the characters or 1781 01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:44,279 the action that was on screen. 1782 01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Tides of Annihilation looked really cool, and yeah, 1783 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,199 to be honest, a lot it isn't that similar realm 1784 01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:52,560 as the game we just talked about, and I already 1785 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,640 forget the name of Oh my god, it's. 1786 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 2: Like a side Yeah that's yeah, best name. 1787 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean neither is Tides of Annihilation. 1788 01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, like just looking at some of the giant 1789 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,960 monsters and the creation the art style of this game. 1790 01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:08,840 Of course, there's a lot of cute girls in there too, 1791 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,119 so you know that that's something that will catch the eye. 1792 01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:13,640 It's got the stellar blade element to it. I thought 1793 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,199 the voice actor who plays the protagonist had just like 1794 01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,840 the coolest voice ever, so that was definitely a selling 1795 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,119 point too. But yeah, I think this game looked really sweet. 1796 01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,840 It definitely had a lot of elder ring DNA as 1797 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,319 I mentioned. So yeah, this game is definitely how my radar. 1798 01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:30,359 I think it looks incredibly cool. It's maybe not necessarily 1799 01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:32,439 my cup of tea in terms of like the general 1800 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,359 genre stuff, but it is a genre kind of sphere 1801 01:12:35,359 --> 01:12:36,840 I want to get a little bit more into, So 1802 01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:39,319 maybe I'll check that one out. So shout outs to 1803 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:46,520 Tides of Annihilation next up Directive eighty twenty. So this 1804 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,920 is another next game from super Massive, you know, until 1805 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,960 Dawn the Quarry, those developers, This is there more sci 1806 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,720 fi setting. 1807 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:54,199 Speaker 3: Game that we've seen. 1808 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I forget if we've seen a trailer or just like 1809 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,640 a teaser for this, but we've finally seen a pretty 1810 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,960 good amount of it here. So this is space Station Classic, 1811 01:13:03,159 --> 01:13:06,520 some sort of alien thing on board that's growing into 1812 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,279 people and making them all pussy and weird looking and 1813 01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:10,319 monsters everywhere. 1814 01:13:11,039 --> 01:13:12,079 Speaker 3: I think this looks really cool. 1815 01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a big sci fi guy, especially right now. 1816 01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:17,039 You know, this is a story we've seen a million times. 1817 01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:19,119 But the fact that it's a super Massive game and 1818 01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:20,640 you get to kind of play through it and there 1819 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,119 can definitely be consequences, certain characters dying or surviving based 1820 01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:25,920 on your based on your choices and all that, I 1821 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,359 think this seems really cool. So I've never dipped into 1822 01:13:28,399 --> 01:13:31,079 a super Massive game somehow, but I don't know this 1823 01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:33,159 this could be the first one. I really I really 1824 01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:34,800 like the look of what we saw here. 1825 01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I haven't played any of these games, but 1826 01:13:39,399 --> 01:13:41,960 they've They've always just been like on the other side 1827 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,960 of the window for me, where I'm just intrigued. I 1828 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,319 really want to play through one of these what would 1829 01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:54,079 you call like a narrative cinematic experience type game. Still 1830 01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:58,279 haven't played Detroit Become Human, so what the game is called? 1831 01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 1832 01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just many out there that I haven't jumped into. 1833 01:14:02,359 --> 01:14:05,840 And I feel like every time I want to, I like, 1834 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,199 I feel like I need like a good session. Like 1835 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,479 I don't want to just play it for like twenty minutes, 1836 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,960 you know, like I want to fully get in, like 1837 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,760 at least like a two and a half hour, three 1838 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,640 three hour plus session like a movie would be to 1839 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,000 go through these. But no, it looks really impressive, and 1840 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:22,239 I really like the sci fi setting and just the 1841 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,920 like the voice actors and everything. It just looks really 1842 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,479 well made. 1843 01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And the next up is a game called 1844 01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:32,159 The Midnight Walk coming out on May eighth. This is 1845 01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:35,319 kind of like a horror exploration y sort of game. 1846 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:36,119 Speaker 3: It's funny. 1847 01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: When I first saw this, I'm like, this kind of 1848 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,520 looks like something made in dreams. It kind of has 1849 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,560 that dreams aesthetic or it's like little claymationy all that 1850 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,359 in terms of some of like I mean, this is 1851 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,239 a game that is not just VR, but it is 1852 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:50,000 also on VR, so I think some of the shots 1853 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:52,079 what they're showing off on the trailer are trying to 1854 01:14:52,079 --> 01:14:53,600 be like, oh, this is what you would look like 1855 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,000 picking up a torch and lighting the fire and then 1856 01:14:56,079 --> 01:14:57,880 like holding it around. But then obviously it also is 1857 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,439 just like a regular first person you can game you 1858 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,520 can play outside of VR. I looked that up specifically 1859 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,960 because I was like, this game looks really cool, but 1860 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,560 I don't have VR. 1861 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,319 Speaker 3: Can I still play this? 1862 01:15:05,399 --> 01:15:07,800 Speaker 1: And Yeah, it seems like they're serving both audiences there, 1863 01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,239 so I think that's cool because you know, like, what 1864 01:15:10,319 --> 01:15:12,840 is PlayStation doing with VR two over there? Who the 1865 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,159 heck knows, but it seems like games like this might 1866 01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,800 be a good way to fill the void where you 1867 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,520 can put a game out still get that PS five 1868 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,960 install base player base in there, but then also get 1869 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,680 another cool VR looking title. 1870 01:15:24,319 --> 01:15:25,359 Speaker 3: I think the game looks awesome. 1871 01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: I love the art style, I love the character design 1872 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,479 in particular. I just think the art team on this 1873 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,560 game is going wild. I don't know to really expect 1874 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,600 gameplay wise, but if you know, a spooky game with 1875 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,720 cool characters, an interesting looking story, kind of a weird 1876 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,560 dreamlike state situation, I think it looks really interesting. So 1877 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,279 this one's definitely it's on my radar now. 1878 01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 3: I like it. 1879 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks spooky. I don't know if I'll jump 1880 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,119 in there, but I appreciate the art style at least 1881 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,159 definitely honestly the main character, just just the design of 1882 01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:58,960 his face that reminds me of that. 1883 01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:01,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1884 01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: And then after words we're getting into Annie Musha, which 1885 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,399 had a new trailer for Way of the Sword as 1886 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,880 well as a re release I guess of Annie Musha 1887 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,159 two that was announced here. So this one I want 1888 01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:14,359 to talk about a little bit because back I think 1889 01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:16,920 it was the Game Awards, there was a trailer for 1890 01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:20,279 Annie Musha Way of the Sword, the new Ani Musha game, 1891 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,880 and we didn't even talk about it in the game 1892 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,720 wards recap episode because I didn't know anything about the series, 1893 01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:26,720 and I don't think you guys do either, So I 1894 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,199 was like, ah, well, we're not We're gonna bring it 1895 01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:30,760 up because what do we have to say. And then afterwards, 1896 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,840 listening to like some other podcasts and stuff, people were 1897 01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:35,920 popping off that Annie Musha was coming back, and I 1898 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:36,920 was like, Hey, what's going on here? 1899 01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 3: What am I missing? 1900 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,560 Speaker 1: What is going on with Anie Musha and looking into 1901 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,960 it a bit more a lot of people compared to 1902 01:16:42,039 --> 01:16:43,840 like Resident Evil, like some of the early Resident Evil 1903 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,199 games in terms of the spooky vibes to it. And 1904 01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:48,359 obviously it's like a different kind of like Samurai setting 1905 01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:50,439 and combat and all that, but just in terms of 1906 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,119 like the energy of it, it kind of has like 1907 01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:55,000 an early Resident Evil vibe to it. And apparently that 1908 01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:57,079 first gets really short, like three or four hours or 1909 01:16:57,119 --> 01:16:59,920 something like that, just like a short, scary kind of 1910 01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:03,000 experience sort of game. So it sounds like My Cup 1911 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,680 of Tea in the original game is like on Steam 1912 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,720 and stuff like they did like at some sort some 1913 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,920 sort of remastery thing. So it's just up on Steam 1914 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,520 for like fifteen twenty bucks. So it's a series I 1915 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,840 want to check out. I think before this new one 1916 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,199 comes out, I'm gonna go back and play that first 1917 01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:17,319 Anni Musha, and then I don't know, maybe check out two, 1918 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,319 you know, see how that goes, maybe too, maybe pick 1919 01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:21,800 Away of the sort or something. I don't know too 1920 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,239 much more about it other than that, but I think 1921 01:17:23,279 --> 01:17:25,760 it's a series that I I've always heard the name, 1922 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,960 but I never really thought about it. 1923 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 3: Or looked into it. More. 1924 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,359 Speaker 1: But the more I've heard about it, it sounds pretty compelling. 1925 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,520 So I don't know, this is one that I'm excited 1926 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,600 to go do a little research on. So I think, 1927 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,000 you know, look forward to at some point on Side 1928 01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:41,159 Quest in the next year some update for me when 1929 01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:42,840 I finally jumped into the series and can give you 1930 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,239 a little bit more, a little bit more tea on it. 1931 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 2: It was funny. I had never heard of this series either, 1932 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,479 but when I had watched it, I'd watched the modern 1933 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,520 trailer first and then like later on I saw like 1934 01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,000 the remake of like was it the second one or something? 1935 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:02,119 I guess, so, yeah, I can't remember seeing it. Yeah, 1936 01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:04,199 so I then I saw that later on, but I 1937 01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:06,039 didn't see the name, and I'm like, man, this this 1938 01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:09,640 totally reminds me of that other game we saw. So 1939 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,479 I had a funny little moment there. But no, I yeah, 1940 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,880 I've completely not heard of these before. And yeah, no, 1941 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,319 I don't know. I wasn't too impressed by the by 1942 01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:24,079 the trailers, but there's just a lot of games out there, 1943 01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:26,359 so I gotta be picky and choosey these days. 1944 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,199 Speaker 1: Well, I'll put you on that episode of Side Quest 1945 01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:28,840 when I talk about it. 1946 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,159 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, Yes, I'll. 1947 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 3: Tell you all about it. 1948 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Next up, good news for Kirkland here because you have 1949 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,680 Metal your Solid three on your draft and it is 1950 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,800 officially coming out in August if it doesn't get delayed. 1951 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,279 Of course, you know it's a it's a remake remaster scenario. 1952 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:45,800 But I think Kirkland, you know, we debated on that draft, 1953 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,479 like should you be allowed of this game? 1954 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 3: Is this remake? Remaster? Is this new? What's going on here? 1955 01:18:50,359 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: But it's got ape Escape DLC and that wasn't in 1956 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,039 the original game as far as I know, so it's 1957 01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:57,359 a new game as far as I can tell. And 1958 01:18:57,399 --> 01:19:00,359 then I think after this trailer came out, Xbox their 1959 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,439 version of the trailer and they have like Bomberman DLC 1960 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,159 because obviously ap Escape is like a PlayStation property, so 1961 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,199 I guess the different versions. I don't know what this 1962 01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:09,159 is gonna be, but that was like a tease that 1963 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,960 they ended the trailer here. Kind of the new thing 1964 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,239 is that somehow ap Escape is gonna be in here, 1965 01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:15,239 probably be some mode where you're going around these maps 1966 01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:18,039 and like catching apes, hiding in bushes and things like that. 1967 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,079 But yeah, what did you think about this this trailer. 1968 01:19:22,079 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 2: I was really impressed by this trailer. I feel like 1969 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,399 I didn't have a lot of hype for the announcement 1970 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,640 of it, just because I don't like Your Solid is 1971 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,159 an interesting one for me where I'm just so like 1972 01:19:33,239 --> 01:19:35,680 fascinated by the series even though I haven't like really 1973 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,680 dove into it that much. The one that I played 1974 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,760 the most would have been Middle of Your Solid four 1975 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,279 Guns and the Patriots, I think it was four. It 1976 01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:45,359 was the one on the PS three, and I got 1977 01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:47,039 obsessed with that game like that was one I would 1978 01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:48,520 go to my friend's house and I would just watch 1979 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,920 him play it, and I was just so interested by 1980 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,720 what it was, and then of course he let me 1981 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,600 rent it, and then that's when I really got to 1982 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,760 jump in there. And then played a little bit of 1983 01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:00,960 the one that came after that one. I can't remember 1984 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,159 which one it was, but didn't really get into it 1985 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:07,159 too much. But I again, it's another weird one where 1986 01:20:07,159 --> 01:20:10,039 like I went through and just watched like the YouTube 1987 01:20:10,119 --> 01:20:12,880 cinematics for these games like so many years ago, like 1988 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,560 probably when I played through four, just because I was 1989 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,680 I'm like, well, I'm probably never gonna play those PlayStation 1990 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,600 one games so I'm just gonna watch the cinematics, and 1991 01:20:22,279 --> 01:20:24,880 I'm pretty sure I've seen all of them for this 1992 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,159 one too, So it was kind of interesting just seeing 1993 01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:30,720 like the modern remake of it. But yeah, I know, 1994 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,520 I think it just looks better than I was expecting. 1995 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,680 Even though I knew it was like a from the 1996 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,840 ground up remake, it still just looks really impressive. And 1997 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,119 I don't know, I don't know if I'm gonna get it. 1998 01:20:42,119 --> 01:20:44,920 I think it's really gonna be a matter of like 1999 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,479 getting closer to if that pressure just keeps building on 2000 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,960 the on just the hype level, because that happens to 2001 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,479 me sometimes I'm victim to the fomo, you know, the 2002 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,039 fear of missing out civilization. 2003 01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 3: Man, I hear that. 2004 01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:00,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So we'll see. But yeah, I was definitely 2005 01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:00,960 impressed by this. 2006 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've definitely been put in a It's not an 2007 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,119 actually tough situation, but what feels like a tough situation 2008 01:21:07,159 --> 01:21:09,720 for a gamer because I got that Metal Gear Solid 2009 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,239 one volume thing collection that. 2010 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:14,319 Speaker 3: Has three in there, right, so it's like, Okay, it's 2011 01:21:14,319 --> 01:21:14,600 not the. 2012 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,159 Speaker 1: Most recent version. It is a remastered to some extent. 2013 01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:19,279 I believe the version that's in there, I was like, Okay, 2014 01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:20,680 I have access to that, I should probably go with 2015 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,600 play through that version rather than paying ninety bucks to 2016 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,039 get this version. But it does look great, and so 2017 01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:27,960 it seems like maybe the best way to play the game. 2018 01:21:28,039 --> 01:21:29,560 So I don't know, we'll see what happens when you 2019 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,000 get when it gets closer to But the other thing 2020 01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:33,520 that was a big selling point for me and the 2021 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,119 curiosity factor, is that the other game that I've been 2022 01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:37,119 playing in the last. 2023 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,800 Speaker 3: Couple of weeks your Kirkling is ap Escape. 2024 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,199 Speaker 1: I downloaded ape Escape on PlayStation Plus there because they 2025 01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:45,560 have like five or six of these games on PlayStation Plus. 2026 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,920 And yeah, I've been playing through the original ap Escape, 2027 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,920 which is a series again kind of like Annie Musche 2028 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,479 I always heard of, but I never knew anything about it. 2029 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,239 And then I think we'll kind of put it top 2030 01:21:54,279 --> 01:21:58,039 of mine again. Was playing Astrobot recently, and astrobought, you know, 2031 01:21:58,079 --> 01:21:59,960 six or seven of the levels in there are just 2032 01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:02,680 like directly like here's a level from Horizon, Here's a 2033 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,079 level from like God of War. You know, you just 2034 01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:05,920 play as Alo, play as Krado so and one of 2035 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,479 them is pretty much on his ape Escape level. You're 2036 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,600 going around through the level catching apes with the giant 2037 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,800 net and all that kind of stuff, so kind of 2038 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,560 similar there. And I think a lot of the team 2039 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,159 that works on Astrobot now are people who even worked 2040 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:19,520 on you know, ape Escape all the way back in 2041 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,199 the day. It's kind of that lineage there. And yeah, 2042 01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:23,199 so I was like, you know what, I kind of 2043 01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:24,840 want to jump in and check out see what the 2044 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,119 heck is going on with ap Escape, and yeah, maybe 2045 01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:30,640 like ten or twelve or fifteen levels in something like that. 2046 01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:34,720 I freaking love this game. This game is so fantastic. 2047 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,000 I highly recommend it for anyone who just loves a 2048 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,279 good like three D platform, especially like N sixty four 2049 01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:41,079 or three D platform or stuff. If you haven't played this, 2050 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,199 because you know, even PlayStation one, like I played a 2051 01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:44,760 lot of Crash, played a lot of Spiro, but ap 2052 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,439 Escape was never one that came across my radar. But goddamn, 2053 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,840 I love this game so much. And obviously I'm playing 2054 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,079 the first one. I'm curious to see how the sequels 2055 01:22:53,119 --> 01:22:55,119 and stuff evolve or change the game play. But as 2056 01:22:55,119 --> 01:22:57,039 far as this one goes, I think it came out 2057 01:22:57,119 --> 01:22:58,640 ninety nine, so it would have been like three or 2058 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,439 four years after Mario sixty four or you can see 2059 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:01,960 a lot of that DNA. Is there a lot of 2060 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,800 that influence of like some of these first three D platformers, 2061 01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:07,920 But this feels a little bit more constrained. You are 2062 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,000 going into levels, but the levels aren't quite on the 2063 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,319 scale of sixty four. They're much more small, smaller areas. 2064 01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:14,720 You know, you can go off the branching path in 2065 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,600 a couple different ways, but for the most part, you're 2066 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000 dropped into like this little jungle area or snowy area, 2067 01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:21,000 whatever it is, and you just have to catch like 2068 01:23:21,039 --> 01:23:23,159 five apes, and you know each level has more than that, 2069 01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:24,880 so you only have to catch a certain amount, and 2070 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,079 you're kind of incentivized even to like come back later 2071 01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:28,840 when you have more upgrades for your character, because there's 2072 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,000 certain ones that maybe you can't access yet. 2073 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know how much I'll do of that. 2074 01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:34,319 We'll see, but. 2075 01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like the basic gameplay is really fun, 2076 01:23:37,239 --> 01:23:39,119 just kind of cruising around, trying to sneak up on 2077 01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:41,760 these apes, trying to catch them, doing a little platforming 2078 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,920 in between, solving little puzzles, basic stuff like that. The 2079 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,079 controls are really really weird and really hard to get 2080 01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,960 used to because like you know, you move around regularly, 2081 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,600 but then like you hit the right bumper to jump, 2082 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,119 which is immediately a little bit strange. And then you 2083 01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:59,199 like flick the stick almost like skate to like swing 2084 01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:02,479 your net at people, and then like a lot of 2085 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,479 the other controls are very like tactile as well. Like 2086 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,159 at some point you'll get into like a little raft 2087 01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:10,760 and you have like your two paddles, and like to 2088 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,680 move the paddles, you have to like roll the sticks 2089 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,159 as if you're like moving a paddle, and so if 2090 01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:18,079 you like only move one, you know, you'll turn your 2091 01:24:18,079 --> 01:24:19,760 boat like more this way or that way, and you 2092 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,560 can do it like opposite ways or do like quick 2093 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,640 bursts or like full rotations. And it is not easy 2094 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,720 to control whatsoever. It is incredibly janky, but it's really fun. 2095 01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:31,359 Another upgrade you'll get is like this hula hoop around 2096 01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:33,399 you essentially, and so you roll the stick around in 2097 01:24:33,399 --> 01:24:34,640 like a big way like that, and then you'll like 2098 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,520 build up speed and then you'll just dart off in 2099 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,079 that direction. You can go like full first PERSONO with 2100 01:24:39,119 --> 01:24:41,079 a slingshot and like try and snipe people and stuff. 2101 01:24:41,119 --> 01:24:43,119 So it feels like for ninety nine. I feel like 2102 01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:44,399 this game's doing some crazy stuff. 2103 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,279 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of variety in terms of the gameplay. 2104 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:46,880 It's funny. 2105 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 1: A couple of the upgrades are like directly things that 2106 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,840 are an astrobot. So it's fun seeing that lineage now, 2107 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,359 or at least for me, kind of seeing that in 2108 01:24:53,399 --> 01:24:58,159 reverse a little bit. But yeah, if anyone has PlayStation 2109 01:24:58,199 --> 01:24:59,439 Plus and you haven't played this game, and you like 2110 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,760 three platform formers, go play it. I am loving this game. 2111 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,560 Speaker 3: It's so silly. The tone is hilarious. 2112 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,239 Speaker 1: The monkeys are so funny, yet little stealth sequences are 2113 01:25:07,239 --> 01:25:09,640 trying to sneak up on them as well. Uh, It's 2114 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,039 it's just a freaking great time. 2115 01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 3: It's just a fun video game. There's not enough of those, 2116 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,079 you know. 2117 01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:17,039 Speaker 1: I just want like a fun video game that is 2118 01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:19,319 immediately fun and there's no bloat and it's just fun. 2119 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,600 That's what this game is, and I love it. 2120 01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:25,239 Speaker 2: They're few and far between. It's funny. I I never 2121 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,439 actually have seen gameplay of this game before, but I've 2122 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,199 seen the ape Escape guy, so yeah, I maybe I'll 2123 01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:33,960 have to boot it up. 2124 01:25:34,359 --> 01:25:35,399 Speaker 3: Mm hmm check it out. 2125 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,079 Speaker 1: And I guess there's like tons of them on there, 2126 01:25:37,119 --> 01:25:39,359 so I'm sure over the next few months, I'll just 2127 01:25:39,359 --> 01:25:41,760 binge through all these ape escape games, yea, become an 2128 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,119 ape Escape master and be demanding a new one to 2129 01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:46,119 come out right now. But yeah, I mean, I think 2130 01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:49,399 based on like stealthing around in this game, you know, 2131 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,479 trying to sneak up on the monkeys and whatnot, or 2132 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,199 distracting them or stunning them from a far and then 2133 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:55,079 running up and grabbing them like those seem like metal 2134 01:25:55,079 --> 01:25:57,119 Gear solidy things. So I'm curious to see what that 2135 01:25:57,159 --> 01:26:00,520 mode is for metal Gear Solid three, really, to see 2136 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:05,840 what that's all about there. Okay, Next up is a 2137 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,840 game that I wrote down as hell as Us and 2138 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,680 I already kind of forget what the heck that was, 2139 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,640 so any thoughts on that one or just get past 2140 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:13,239 that one? 2141 01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:16,520 Speaker 2: Was really impressive actually from the trailer, did. 2142 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 3: Is that the one that was like a little death 2143 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,640 stranding knee? 2144 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:19,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2145 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,600 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, we're remembering a little. 2146 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,119 Speaker 2: Very cinematic y so you know, we did see more 2147 01:26:25,159 --> 01:26:27,720 gameplay and everything like that, but out of the gate, yeah, no, 2148 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,399 I was. I was pretty impressed by this one. This 2149 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,520 one where just by seeing the name, I assumed it 2150 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,079 was just gonna be like a World War two like 2151 01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:37,560 very basic game in that sense, but no, I was 2152 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,800 really surprised by the trailer and it's all my radar 2153 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:40,199 for sure. 2154 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 1: M Then there was a DLC for Lives of P 2155 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,800 called Lives of P Overture, which kind of surprised me 2156 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,039 because that game came out in twenty twenty three, I 2157 01:26:48,079 --> 01:26:49,479 want to say, like the summer of twenty twenty three, 2158 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,399 so it's been a while. But I think just that 2159 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760 just goes to show that, like they didn't make this 2160 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,039 DLC before the game came out to sell it later, 2161 01:26:56,119 --> 01:26:59,159 you know, like take Notes Civilization, Like they released a game, 2162 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,920 people said we like your game, we. 2163 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 3: Want more, and then they went and made more. 2164 01:27:03,239 --> 01:27:05,239 Speaker 1: People love This game I played for the first few 2165 01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:07,159 hours is on game Pass and it is really great. 2166 01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:09,399 I'm just like, I'm so selective when it comes to 2167 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,680 the souls. Like I also recently booted up like the 2168 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,199 Demon Soul's remake and played for like two hours, and 2169 01:27:14,199 --> 01:27:16,119 I was like, this game sucks. I hate this, Like 2170 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,520 I'm so selective, and like elden Ring was like the 2171 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,079 perfect balance because it was more open. But this game 2172 01:27:21,279 --> 01:27:23,520 is great it's really really cool. Great art style, great 2173 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,159 mechanics and all that. And I think the DLC looks cool. 2174 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:29,159 It's kind of a snowy sort of atmosphere in the 2175 01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:32,159 city looks really really interesting. So shout outs to that 2176 01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:34,000 because I know a lot of people would be excited. 2177 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:34,279 Speaker 3: About that one. 2178 01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:38,079 Speaker 1: And then a game called Dreams of Another, which, funnily 2179 01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:41,000 enough also even though has dreams in the title. Before 2180 01:27:41,079 --> 01:27:42,439 that even popped up, I was like, this looks like 2181 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,680 it was made in dreams again, which I love. 2182 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,800 Speaker 3: I love that vibe. I think that's really cool. The 2183 01:27:49,319 --> 01:27:50,159 tagline for this. 2184 01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Game I think is really interesting. It is no creation 2185 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,920 without destruction. So the whole premise of this scene of 2186 01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,119 this game is kind of tackling that. That is a theme. 2187 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,439 And then how can we tell that like through gameplay? 2188 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,279 Through like this trippy world. So it's kind of like, 2189 01:28:05,359 --> 01:28:08,039 of all, everything's made of vauxels, Like you can see 2190 01:28:08,359 --> 01:28:11,119 the makeup of everything broken down into chunks even though 2191 01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:13,399 it's a three D game, right, And then I guess 2192 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,319 you're breaking through these things to create. 2193 01:28:15,039 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 3: And turn them into new things. I don't really know. 2194 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Like the gameplay looks really strange and odd and I 2195 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,800 don't really understand how it works. It's a hard one 2196 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,199 to pitch, I think, but it's really interesting and weird, 2197 01:28:25,239 --> 01:28:27,720 and I like that idea of like the genesis of 2198 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,359 this game starting from like that one simple like philosophical idea, 2199 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,760 and like how can we perth that into a video 2200 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,279 game that's like about gameplay? You know, It's it's really interesting. 2201 01:28:38,319 --> 01:28:40,600 So this one's definitely on my on my radar. It's 2202 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,600 like another true it's in that same ballpark as The 2203 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,600 Midnight Walk for me, as like this weird dreamscapey scenario. 2204 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,119 So it's cool looking. I'm intrigued by this one. 2205 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely unique, just with the visuals and everything, and 2206 01:28:55,159 --> 01:28:57,800 it was just a weird pairing of like really interesting 2207 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,840 trippy visuals art style and then just like an RPG 2208 01:29:01,239 --> 01:29:02,880 or like an M sixteen that he's holy, it's just 2209 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,359 like very modern military weapons. So it was just an 2210 01:29:05,359 --> 01:29:09,600 interesting pairing. So definitely memorable. So we'll wait and see 2211 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:10,479 closer to release. 2212 01:29:12,319 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 1: And then another funny time with the Ape Escape. Another 2213 01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,720 funny time thing is Day's Gone is getting a remaster, 2214 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,640 because you know I talked to you about that about 2215 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,159 a month ago. And then with Travis last week again, 2216 01:29:21,159 --> 01:29:22,640 I told him that I'd beat the game. I kind 2217 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,520 of gave him some more thoughts on days gone. So 2218 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,119 really funny timing that they just announced this now the 2219 01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:29,920 remaster's coming out April twenty fifth. Once again, just like 2220 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,640 the Horizon remaster or some of these Last of US ones, 2221 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,159 this does not need to exist. But you know, it's 2222 01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:37,439 probably make them some extra sales. They're gonna get some 2223 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,520 money from people for the ten dollars upgrade. They'll get 2224 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,039 some people from playing it for the first time on 2225 01:29:41,079 --> 01:29:44,039 PS five, And that's just how businesses work, I guess. 2226 01:29:44,079 --> 01:29:47,960 But it's unfortunate that Sony Bend since twenty nineteen was 2227 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,800 working on again. They aren't canceled, and then the other 2228 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,880 thing is working on is this. It's like, okay, that's 2229 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,159 all you got from Bend. You know, a huge studio 2230 01:29:55,159 --> 01:29:58,479 that employs hundreds of people. Okay, see how that pays 2231 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,680 off for you. But anyway, this that's clearly my salty 2232 01:30:02,119 --> 01:30:04,880 side of it coming through this new version. You know, 2233 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,439 it looks better, of course, but it's like that game 2234 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,239 order looks fantastic still, so who cares if it looks 2235 01:30:10,319 --> 01:30:13,279 slightly better. It's adding a Horde Assault mode, which like 2236 01:30:13,319 --> 01:30:16,199 the game already had bonus game assault things. But I 2237 01:30:16,199 --> 01:30:19,279 guess these ones have more zombies because it's a piece five, 2238 01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:22,960 it can process more zombies on screen, I suppose, But like, 2239 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,600 I don't know what's the difference between five hundred and 2240 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,520 six hundred zombies, Like, I don't know if there's much 2241 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,600 we'll see. It has a speed run mode as a 2242 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,399 hardcore mode. You can tell my tone here that I 2243 01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,359 just think this is such a useless thing to release. 2244 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,960 And I'm not salty because I already played it without 2245 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,399 this because I would never I'm never going to go 2246 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,640 back and play this additional stuff. This is so minor. 2247 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:44,680 The only good thing here is that they had like 2248 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,840 more accessibility options. 2249 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:46,319 Speaker 3: That's great. 2250 01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: More people can enjoy the game because there's all these 2251 01:30:49,079 --> 01:30:51,399 other ways for people with certain disabilities and whatnot can 2252 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:52,439 ask access it. 2253 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,239 Speaker 3: That's fantastic. 2254 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,079 Speaker 1: But otherwise, you know, kind of a waste of time, 2255 01:30:57,119 --> 01:30:59,439 but it exists, coming out in April twenty fifth. 2256 01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:05,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, comments, how about this? 2257 01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: Do you have a comment on your favorite game of 2258 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,479 last year? Stellar Blade getting a new DLC from from 2259 01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,479 nie K. I guess is the property is what it's 2260 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,600 called which is funny because I've the only reason I've 2261 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,119 heard of this property is I just got like ads 2262 01:31:17,119 --> 01:31:19,600 on Reddit and stuff, and it's just like girls with 2263 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,279 huge boobs jiggling around, and it's like it just looks 2264 01:31:22,279 --> 01:31:24,359 like the horniest game of all time, and so it 2265 01:31:24,359 --> 01:31:26,520 makes sense that it's getting that into Cellar Blade again, 2266 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,359 it's also pretty horny. But yeah, it seems like kind 2267 01:31:29,359 --> 01:31:31,239 of similar to the Near expansion where it's just like 2268 01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:32,680 some vision. 2269 01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:34,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's new levels, but. 2270 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Bonus mission I saw and okay, just the exact same 2271 01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,479 as the Near delC. So yeah, definitely definitely not getting 2272 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:46,079 out for this one. Crossed my mind for the Near one, 2273 01:31:46,079 --> 01:31:47,680 but when I realize what you get, it's like there's 2274 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,720 no way that's worth it. So definitely not answer for 2275 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,279 this one. 2276 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that game, I think. And then they also paired 2277 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,279 that with like coming to PC soon I guess, so 2278 01:31:56,399 --> 01:31:57,880 some kind of a reminder there. 2279 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,279 Speaker 2: Of that the deal will be releasing on PC and 2280 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,960 PlayStation like together. Okay, cool, I think the PC release 2281 01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:06,039 is out soon, if not already, so. 2282 01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:08,000 Speaker 3: Okay, sweet sounds good. 2283 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then uh, lady I forget her 2284 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,479 name came up on stage, virtual stage, green screen stage 2285 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,319 to talk about some PS plus things. You know, we 2286 01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:19,000 don't normally talk about this kind of stuff on side 2287 01:32:19,039 --> 01:32:21,960 Quest because it's not super interesting. But you know, Jennsavivor's 2288 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,319 coming around. Lost Records is getting added on there. This 2289 01:32:24,359 --> 01:32:26,079 was not part of the sequence, but Astrobot also is 2290 01:32:26,119 --> 01:32:28,199 getting like five new levels coming over the next five weeks. 2291 01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,560 Speaker 3: I played the first one. It's more Astrobots. That's great. 2292 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: They're going back and adding a bunch of the old 2293 01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:35,199 Armored Core games on a PlayStation plus. I think that's 2294 01:32:35,199 --> 01:32:37,119 really cool for you know, there's so many more from 2295 01:32:37,159 --> 01:32:39,520 software fans these days, so for a lot of people 2296 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,399 to go back and check out some of their original games, 2297 01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:43,479 I think is pretty cool. A pad Hmont three, he's 2298 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,880 getting added the catalog, which is a funny thing to 2299 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:46,319 see there. 2300 01:32:46,359 --> 01:32:48,159 Speaker 3: So some upgrades there. 2301 01:32:49,079 --> 01:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Do you think you'd ever go back and check out 2302 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,399 some of those old Armored Core games you have any 2303 01:32:52,399 --> 01:32:54,960 interest in checking out from software's history in that way? 2304 01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 2: Probably not. It's the same for me, we'll see not 2305 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:04,720 a huge mech guy. 2306 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,319 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, I bounce off Demon Souls by 2307 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,439 Blue Points, so you know, I don't think I'll be 2308 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,640 jumping back into old Armored Corps absolutely. 2309 01:33:13,119 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 3: All right, we got two more games here. 2310 01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 1: First one here is a game called Mind's Eye, which 2311 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,880 is a very odd looking game. It's it's got a 2312 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,840 little bit of Watchdogs, I guess that's the closest comparison, 2313 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,600 but also run to a lot of I Robot in 2314 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,840 terms of the tone, and there is literally a scene 2315 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,800 where like an I Robot looking robot is like jumping 2316 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,079 on your character's car and trying to catch you. But yeah, 2317 01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:41,800 it looks like a weird, cheesy, open worldy actionly silly 2318 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,439 espionage sort of thing. I think the most interesting thing 2319 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,640 that caught my mind's eye about this was that this 2320 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:52,119 is IOI publishing. So IOI Interactive the developers of hit 2321 01:33:52,199 --> 01:33:54,560 Man Games, and they're working on Double O seven right now. 2322 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:56,880 I guess they're also getting into publishing, and this is 2323 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,960 the first game that they are publishing. So there's something 2324 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,760 about this game that is interesting to IOI, and that 2325 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,079 makes me more interested than honestly anything I saw on 2326 01:34:04,119 --> 01:34:07,640 the trailer itself. So I don't know, we'll see. I'm 2327 01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,600 really curious to see one what happens with this again? 2328 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,279 And then I guess just the result of it, how 2329 01:34:12,279 --> 01:34:13,920 successful it is, and then what that kind of leads 2330 01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,359 to with other stuff that IOI publishes, because like. 2331 01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 3: They're still doing some Hitman content. 2332 01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:21,199 Speaker 1: They we're gonna double seven and they announced that like 2333 01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:24,199 fantasy things, so they're like they're already busy. So I'm 2334 01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:26,199 kind of surprised that they're doing this publishing thing as well. 2335 01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:28,640 But it's cool to see because they're just supporting other 2336 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,239 developers with the you know, they've been fortunate and successful 2337 01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:33,640 and they can spread the wealth a little bit. I 2338 01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,479 think that's pretty cool. So we'll see what happens with 2339 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:36,319 the mind's. 2340 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,800 Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, I know. It reminded me of a 2341 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,600 couple different games. Definitely Watchdogs, a little bit of Keenan 2342 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,399 Lynch for some reason, just just based on like some 2343 01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,319 of the Over the Shoulder game play there, but not 2344 01:34:49,359 --> 01:34:53,439 really enough to win me over, unfortunately by the trailer, you. 2345 01:34:53,399 --> 01:34:54,520 Speaker 3: Know what, that is totally fair. 2346 01:34:55,039 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 1: And then last off, maybe this wowed yew is a 2347 01:34:57,039 --> 01:34:59,439 new game called Sarah's coming out in twenty twenty six, 2348 01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,279 So I think it's it's like the furthestart announcement we 2349 01:35:01,319 --> 01:35:04,079 have for PlayStation right now. Other than I guess maybe 2350 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,000 Naughty Dog's new game, The Profit Conspiracy, whatever the hell 2351 01:35:08,039 --> 01:35:11,520 that worst title of all time. Sarah's is a new 2352 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,000 game from a housemark, uh, the developers of Returnal, which 2353 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,119 is a game that I know you are a big 2354 01:35:16,119 --> 01:35:16,439 fan of. 2355 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,319 Speaker 3: Not much here. This is more of a tone. 2356 01:35:20,039 --> 01:35:22,800 Speaker 1: Piece, tone setter kind of thing, definitely hinting at like 2357 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,479 a looping mechanic in the similar way to what Returnal's 2358 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,920 going on. And we got right hul Coli here from 2359 01:35:28,279 --> 01:35:31,039 most notably like Midnight Mass, big actor from that, so 2360 01:35:31,079 --> 01:35:33,079 we kind of got him coming in here to play 2361 01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:35,800 what seems like the protagonist. This looks a lot like 2362 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,399 Returnal to me obviously that the color palette's a little 2363 01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:41,520 bit different, but just in terms of the energy, the 2364 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,960 creations that even the way the character looks and the 2365 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,880 gunny's holding all looks very reternally, which is you know, 2366 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,079 that was a huge successful game for them, So more 2367 01:35:49,119 --> 01:35:50,600 of the same. I think it's probably a good thing. 2368 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,000 But yeah, was this one wowing you definitely? 2369 01:35:54,039 --> 01:35:56,319 Speaker 2: Well? I didn't even put the two together that it 2370 01:35:56,359 --> 01:35:59,920 was the same individuals, So that makes total sense there, 2371 01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:03,479 just based on the gameplay, the taglines like come back 2372 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,479 stronger down to the font. I'm like, this is Returnal here. Yes, 2373 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,840 that's all good things because Returnal was fantastic. So yeah, 2374 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,600 definitely interested in this one. But out of anything, it 2375 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,199 just makes me, you know, we want to jump back 2376 01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:18,119 into Returnal more so than you're interested in this game. 2377 01:36:18,199 --> 01:36:20,039 Speaker 3: But yeah, I still need to. 2378 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 1: It's there on PlayStation catalog. I got to give it 2379 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,600 a down, play some co op with you or something. 2380 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some towers do some towers? 2381 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 3: Did I skip anything that I didn't bring up there? 2382 01:36:34,359 --> 01:36:36,199 Speaker 2: Not that I'm really gonna seek it out With the 2383 01:36:36,199 --> 01:36:40,000 Shanoby Art of Vengeance, uh And that's when trailer I thought, 2384 01:36:40,039 --> 01:36:41,760 just like the art cell and everything looked really cool. 2385 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,880 But once I saw the gameplay, I lost interested. 2386 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,279 Speaker 3: But another we get like, you know, a bunch of 2387 01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:49,920 those every year. 2388 01:36:50,039 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 2: It's kind of yeah, a pick and choose a little 2389 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,000 bit nd percent I laughed at you know, good old 2390 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,880 to the Fields, pick like a dragon pirate Yakuza in Hawaii. 2391 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,520 I feel like part of me not to see that, 2392 01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:02,640 part of me like just did not think that was 2393 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,199 a real game, and then to see it here, it's yeah, wow, 2394 01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:08,039 I don't know what I was expecting but that's it's 2395 01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:10,680 pretty much on par so, Yeah, it was cool to 2396 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,640 see that one there, and then beyond that just a 2397 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,279 little bit more split fiction stuff. I'm getting so excited 2398 01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:19,760 for that game. March six, I think early March is 2399 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,560 when that released. Was Yeah, very soon, very very excited 2400 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,079 for that game. That one's gonna be a day one 2401 01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:25,800 for me for sure. 2402 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2403 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,520 Speaker 1: Man, we got a really good run here because obviously 2404 01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,479 Save just came out. 2405 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 3: Vowed is out. Well it's nine pm now, so I 2406 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,880 think tonight literally like I could go play it right now. 2407 01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could be playing avout right now. 2408 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,520 We got to get finished up here, so I get 2409 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:39,880 edited and then go play some avout. 2410 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:41,119 Speaker 3: Very excited for that. 2411 01:37:41,159 --> 01:37:43,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, we got a really good run of games, 2412 01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:45,439 uh coming out here. It's gonna be a good fun 2413 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,359 time at side Quest. You know, hit that, hit that 2414 01:37:47,399 --> 01:37:50,880 the subscribe button. Check us out and thank you everyone 2415 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,800 for listening. Kirk is a fun, fun episode here and 2416 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,840 next week I just told you what we're talking about 2417 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,800 more Vowed Baby, That's why I'm gonna be playing all 2418 01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,439 this week. So check it out. 2419 01:38:00,119 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 3: What we think and we'll see you again next time. 2420 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:07,039 Speaker 2: Bye bye bye MHM.